XJ650 Build Part 34 - Motogadget M-Unit Starter & Ignition Wiring
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In this episode we carry on wiring in the Motogadget M unit. Last episode we managed to install the M button and that worked a treat! This episode is about ignition and the starter systems. Although i didn't get the result i was after, we made some good progress.
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Our Spring has Sprung here and yesterday, Miss Zippo and I decided to ride the day away. We started out on Onyx, my 2003 Yamaha V-Star 1100 Classic and made it an incredible 1/2 mile before the fuel pump decided to go out. ARGH! So, I managed to get the bike to start back up and used the choke to pull fuel through the dead pump to get it back home. So, new fuel pump is ordered, but Miss Zippo and I did manage to put on almost 100 miles on Pearl, the late model Honda Goldwing. Just thought I'd share my Saturday antics my Friend. I've said it many times...I'm thoroughly enjoying watching you evolve. Nothing short of brilliant! Keep up the great work! Cheers my Friend! Zip~
So close man! Just put an m-unit in my XJ550. Lovely bit of tech. Who knew I’d be updating firmware on a 38 year old bike.
Hey pal, do you have any photo of this bike? I'd love to see it. I'm working on an XJ750 myself. You rarely see XJ motogadget conversions online.
Your making progress Jish. Get yourself a timing light, it will help you ensure the timing is right....I don't think that's the ideal spot for the rectifier but I think it will work there.
Hey up fella I’d be fusing the poss from the battery to the starter 👍
For high vibration applications you shouldn't use solder. Use some butt connectors and shrink tube over the connection. The joint won't be brittle as a solder joint.
good initial test. I did an XJ550 rebuild, and I took off neutral switch, and kick stand switch wiring. less gremlins as these prevent starting. do some digging around to see if they stay open, or get grounded.
so nice to watch you how smoothly doing all of that on xj, it's whole another level of building 👌 just wanna say BRAVO 💪✌️
Great video as usual bud! Sound like the timing is off or mixed the leads up, usually it’s that when it’s popping like that. Keep it up!
My vote goes for the ht leads on the wrong pots, would certainly explain the pops, if the timing has been played also check that hasn’t moved. Cheers R
Looking good now getting there starter sounds weak popping might be timing have check it really nice build mate keep up the great work
Loving the bar control switches
Keep a tin of ‘easy start’ on your shelf mate. Best way to get the engine to try. 🤟🏻
amazing awesome bro working so hard... God bless you more in your work ...😊👍
hey great videos, great bike. you have some wiring plan for starter and ignition ? greeting from germany
Its good to see another of your video
Awesome can’t wait to get my bike going too.. gonna go through the motor / well a mechanic is but can’t wai
Feel the pain .. worth it in long run. Always learning 👍🏻😎
Having done a lot of work on my XJ550R, I can say, the TCI needs good voltage to fire the ignition. You really need a strong battery when you're debugging starting. If the one you have isn't reasonably new, just spring for a new one (even a cheap-ish lead acid). I ended up with a nice MotoBatt (AGM), but just need something with enough juice while you're testing and tuning everything.
I have my eyes on a 81 XJ650 waiting for the owner to call me. I'm getting it for 550 and if all goes well can't wait to do something like your bike here. Nice design. Love it.
Hope all goes well.
Ohh.. I saw The Spark all right..😁✌️
Hi Jish,
Me thinks your plug leads are mixed up. Remember, the leads don't go as you'd expect but one coil does cylinders 1&4 and 2&3
It looked like you were 1&2 and 3&4
Very probable, exactly the problem I had a year ago when i did this
Yes or the coil wires are reversed. Cheers
That's a great suggestion... my second step would be check the timing system, points, advancer, etc...
Where you buy this rectifire?
Yeahhh, almost there.
Where did you find that 40 amp inline holder for the m unit? All I find are the blade style. They are huge and hard to find a spot for.
O processo é lento mais no final vai da tudo certo brother. 🙌👍
Have you got the plug lead's in the right order ?
great content, the main issue I have is with the connections between the m-unit, the ICU and the coil. I'm trying to build up my bonneville 03 but cant work it out.
Jish, if I had to take a guess... I'd say that you just need to adjust the timing.
After seeing the condition of the wires running to the points and advancer system. I'd start with statically timing the points (electronic ignition if that's what you have) and see where that gets you... I'm willing to bet the bike will fire up after the timing is set. Also, see Hughie's comment in this thread regarding your plug leads.
First! Now let’s check that awaited video!
Gutted we didn't get to hear it run this episode! That starter definitely sounds a bit weak. Get that battery juiced up and maybe look at new brushes? It should crank over with a bunch more gusto than that. Good luck!
Mate I feel your pain as I’m going through the same problems with me xj build. It’s backfiring a lot
did you figure it out? i went to 6 sigma for jets.
Hey jish, donubhave a wiring diagram?
Hi Jish
I’m just on with building a xj550, iv got all the lights, brakes, indicators, horn working and I’m. It going onto the ignition side. You don’t happen to have a wiring diagram for this do you ? I’m using an m unit and m button too.
Love this build series too, I went to the bike shed show to have a good look at it last year too and it’s just as good in the flesh.
Cheers Marc
Tidy build, putting an M unit on my Virago 1100, incredible piece of electronics, do you have a link for the fuse please.
How did the spark timing turn out ? The little back-pop with flames flashing from the pipes is probably not the dramamatic effect you wanted, but as directors always say, drama = eyes watching (actually, I just made that up). Enjoyed this video as always. Stay well..and eventually..stay riding !
What gauge wire did you use from the fuse to the M unit? They recommend 10mm but what you're using looks thinner, more standard m'cycle type like 6mm?
Sweet dude... Ordered my M unit blue, cable kit and switch gears... I may need to clock your brain on it or, pay you to pop over to Cannock and fix her up.
Is the starter solenoid necessary with the m.unit? The description on motogadget’s site makes it seem like you don’t need it
Hey! I'm building an 83' XJ 550. Yesterday i've fired it up and sounds awesome after a complete carb cleaning up. Looks like that starter is spinning really slow compared to mine. Don't know why?
Let's hope you get it started soon jish! Boing to be something silly. I'm restoring a gs250t at the moment, but can't find a few parts. If you're not intending to use the grad rail and the little D shaped mouldings at the front of the tank, I'd be really interested in buying them off you it'll help me out and give you some much needed funds I'm sure.
Mate, can u please explain what u did with the black/white wire ouf of your CDI. Im wiring an m unit to and have problems figuring this out
Where did you buy the 40amp fuse?
Rebuild the starter, it sounds like its still struggling a lot. Other than that, I'm loving the build so far, and may use an M unit on my bike.
Great vids Murphy's Law no worries shit happens
What switches are you using on the handlebars
Hello, how do i wire the M-Unit ignition with an old oem points breaker instead of electronical ignition
crimping with a vice!?
Hey Josh, nice Video, thank you. I just rebuild a Yamaha XJ550 with a M-unit, so ists pretty the same installation with similar parts. Do you have the file of your solenoid holder? I would really appreciate it if you could share it with me, that I can print this holder by myself. Regards Andi
Where did you get the start buttons on the handlebars?
I'm currently doing a XJ650 Maxim build with the M.Unit as well and I'm curious as to whether you needed to use a relay for the ignition system, because I think it has a CDI and needs it as per the Revival Cycles diagram for the wiring. If not, kudos. Any insight would be super helpful. Cheers!
Can i see the wiring diagram you followed?
Hi Jish. Thanks for the great video. I noticed you didn't solder your power lead to the M-Unit but just used a cold-weld cable terminal in the vice. Where did you get the battery cable terminals from?
I wouldn't put the reg/rec above the engine put it somewhere away from direct heat & it should be well heatsinked to bike otherwise coming along nicely
Which regulator rectifier is that & has it been reliable? Do you have a link?
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HT leads mixed up from the coils I'd say. Don't see why mounting the reg/rectifier under the tank wouldn't work, at least it would have air over it when you're going along. Be better than enclosing it in the electrics tray in my opinion. I did a cut out in a tray so the heatsink was outside in the air, wasn't noticeable unless you really looked and all the wiring and body was hidden under the seat.
where can i find the 40amp fuse
Can u share where you got your 40amp fuse box holder?
That's what I've been searching too :D I believe I managed to find it on ebay. Just search for 40 AMP MIDI FUSE GREEN STRIP LINK FUSE HOLDER CAR AUTO
Or 40 AMP 40A STRIP FUSE AND STRIP LINK FUSE HOLDER CAR
At this time of year its a Lady bee....
Jish is that the M-Unit Blue or is it the classic one? I will buy one but am not sure which one yet. Would you recommend the Blue, or if not is there a reason?
Ignition coil wiring mixed up? Looks like your timing is wrong, and looks like the battery is really low because of the slow crank. Just my 2 cents :).
9:30 ...what do you call that box with the red TYPE sticker bottom right corner? Ive heard it called ecu , icu, cdi, brain box, etc.But my manuel for my 2000 r6 says its a ICU so how do you hook that to the m unit if all your switchs go to that icu box ? When you buy the M unit will it come with a guide on how to hook it up ? Ive seen several videos and no-one explains this and this is the number one reason i havent hit that buy button..any help would be awesome
its the ignition unit :)
there's plenty of wiring diagrams out there online. the best one is from revival cycles as its intended as a universal guide as every bike will be slightly different
@@jishh I downloaded the revival diagram it has nothing about a icu box anywhere on it , and theres noone in the world that can seem to tell me how the integrated there icu box into there M unit !! I mean its right there on your videos at 9 minutes and 30 seconds like dude how in the world did that box hook up to your ignition coils and hook up to your M Unit. ...damn ima bout to just scrap this bike
Where do you get the parts?
Does the motogadget m unit replace the wiring harness?
It replaces almost everything :) all resistors and relays etc. You can really slim down the wiring harness
Hi, can u post wiring diagram pls? I have cdi issue. thx a lot 🙏
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I think your starter motor is turning over way to slow. On my xj900 a better battery fixed the problem.
Also check you didn't mix up your spark plug wires.
the regulator should not be located over the engine, the heat of the engine will tend to go up and hot air will hit the regulator, even when you think there will be good flow air can be a hot air, so thats why most motorcycle brands located the regulator in front of the bike!!
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6:47 it's way to close to the engine.. look at Suzuki GSXR after 2006.. the all have it near the Engine and the break almost every year.. earlier gsxrs have it under the Rear Fairing..
timing
Your ignition wires are backwards