Not really. Taranto cost 12 & 19. Hopper cost F1(8) and 31. Houston is a better player and didn't cost as much. Plus with adding Perryman, we should still be competitive for the next couple of years.
A superb trade for Collingwood. A first rounder we wanted to offload due to father/son, two borderline 22 players and a late-ish 2nd for an elite player in his prime. Perryman is a perfectly good free agent for anyone to grab, our overall list profile having no relevance.
Collingwood had already signed Matthew Boyd to replace Bolton as an assistant coach *weeks* before Bolton chose to leave the club altogether. Look it up. Well beforehand, and everyone keeps wondering how we'll replace Bolton. Bolton had been working in football department more than coaching in 2024, so the club was proactive about replacing him.
Awesome video Sporting Eyes. As s Collingwood fan I see your point, will be interesting to see how we go in the draft & if we pick up Tomlinson or any other DFA. I'm hoping we land in the top 8 next year, wth picking up Perryman and Houston, and get through the finals. Depends on how Perryman and Houston are able to fulfil their roles and how the other players are swapped around, and how they play together on the field etc. I am concerned with how we go in 26, 27 and beyond, with a host of players retiring & how we can meet rhe challenge of bwing competitive without them & who we bring in to replace them. Also, how the management and coaching staff adjust to Wright and Bolton leaving. Will be an interesting watch in the next 1-4 years at the pies.
The first round pick next year doesn’t matter since we’re getting McGuane so the pick would’ve been eaten anyway. That’s why I’m not upset about it, we basically gave Noble and Richards for Houston as we wouldn’t have been able to use our first rounder. That’s a very good trade, the list profile is old but I think our depth is better than a lot of people think, for about half of this year we were playing our depth players and that’s when we were at our best, and with these editions some best 22 players last year become depth (maybe Lipinski or WHE) who are premiership players and very solid. Our youth is also solid too, think Ed Allan and Wil Parker have big futures in this league and we need to get games into them, Dean, McInnes, Long, Harrison and Smit I’m also big on. HDM should get some games next year and hopefully start developing nicely too. That’s without mentioned the obvious youngster Nick Daicos who will be a key pillar in this team for easily the next decade and a half. Whilst there will be an obvious decline I think we’ll manage alot better than people believe, I’m quite confident in our ability to make the finals and top 4 this season and hopefully we can just do what Geelong do and hang around there.
Almost forgot we’re getting 212cm Alex Condon too I believe for 2026, highly rated draft prospect and that’s your Mason Cox replacement for the structure if he develops nicely
This is probably the most amount of pressure we've been under in any season i can remember. We've gone chips in, but there's also the gameplan and coaching that needs to be fixed. Our game style completely changed in 2024 and for the worse, a big pre season is gonna dictate how far we can go and if it doesn't end in a flag then we're cooked.
The way I see it the high risk high reward is worth it , look at this year pies shit load of injuries and still beat Brisbane twice and they go to win the primership , so with an injury free list + perryman and Houston I can’t see why they can’t win next year look at Geelong in 22 the oldest team and the smashed the swans
As a Collingwood fan, I have a horrible feeling the club West Coasted itself. And just as the draft is about to become worthless due to an expansion team.
There wasn’t any point keeping the first round picks since they were going to use them on the father son pick next year anyway. So might aswell use them for Houston
@@petergeorgeades3082 There are now 9 players 32 or older on the list. They gotta somehow renew a quarter of their list - many of whom are injury prone - with nothing much to trade.
@@HorizonOfHope you act as though we have no youth? Jaith will look better with another pre season, will Parker looked good back half of the season, ed Allen is a big bull, then you have all our small forwards, I think the pies will be fine, might have a couple of down years but they aren’t down for long.
Collingwood seem to be copying Geelong's philosophy of turning the club into a retirement home. Jokes aside, I read that they will have 9 players over 32 at the start of next season, which is pretty nuts, and must be pretty close to breaking Geelong's oldest team ever record. Going all in for another flag like this is very bold, but despite being amazingly well coached (I think McCrae is probably the best motivator of players I've ever seen), I think they may just fall a little short.
they 100% knew its next year or a rebuild, they've just pushed it back an extra year. Guessing they'll go hard for picks in the 2026 draft and hope they get some before tassie come in
going chips in when the expansion club is on the horizon is pretty gutsy, if they dont win a flag it could stuff them for the next decade unless some more father sons come to save their list.
Allan, DeMattia, Harrison and McGuane are all very good, with the retirements coming up means opening up salary space which means we can get the guys we need in Free Agency to fill the voids in our team
Jiath, Ryan, Parker and Sullivan have all showed potential as well. Add this in with Hine generally finding a diamond in the rough with picks from 35-60 Plus under Fly the culture is good so “homesick” interstate former 1st rounders might also opt to join Collingwood over the next few years.
@@tommyandrewdand opening up the space in the cap courtesy of the upcoming retirements means we can snatch free agents to fill voids without having to cough up draft picks
Allan is also looking to be great, we will get mcguane as well, Harrison looks class late next season, Will parker has some promise. But still thats only 4 players up coming yet to break out( Harrison has had break out games tho).
Yeah it’s an interesting watch. I’d think that the focus will change post 2025, given that this might be their one shot at a premiership with the veterans that they have. It’s bold, but yeah they could end up in a Richmond-like position in a couple of years, just with less flags.
After this season we need to stop giving other teams our 1st rounders. Tasmania will come in and get all the picks making us rebuild for seasons and seasons.
Collingwood will have to stagger the 30+ retirements over the next 2 seasons, or the sudden loss of experience will be debilitating... there may be forced retirements through injury, but we will wait and see... on current form, Pendles may be the first to 450 late in '26.
I wouldn’t think too many teams that have an unstable board and GM’s leaving would be able to win a flag. It takes a whole club on and off field to win a premiership. Honestly can’t see them winning next year.
Anyone saying Collingwood is all in next season knows nothing about AFL go have a look at the age of most the magpies for yourself instead of listening to uptight butthurt losers there’s not much difference to most clubs it’s just pinecones looking for something to talk about and know the best club to get you clicks is Collingwood I’ll bet anyone anything that they will be in the top 8 for the next 10 plus years
Pies just don’t have the forward line to seriously threaten (Even Sydney’s flaky coward line is better). Plus a very aging list. Pies will tank badly and be down for some time. Not much quality youth coming through …
This is reminding me of Richmond trading for Taranto and hopper in 2023
It will pan out the same way .. 😵
Not really. Taranto cost 12 & 19. Hopper cost F1(8) and 31. Houston is a better player and didn't cost as much. Plus with adding Perryman, we should still be competitive for the next couple of years.
A superb trade for Collingwood. A first rounder we wanted to offload due to father/son, two borderline 22 players and a late-ish 2nd for an elite player in his prime.
Perryman is a perfectly good free agent for anyone to grab, our overall list profile having no relevance.
Enjoyed your take on Pies now and possible future issues with their list, keep up the unbiased analysis it’s refreshing 👍🏻
Strike while the iron is hot. When we're not top four, might as well be bottom four, which we could well be in 3 or 4 years time.
Collingwood had already signed Matthew Boyd to replace Bolton as an assistant coach *weeks* before Bolton chose to leave the club altogether. Look it up. Well beforehand, and everyone keeps wondering how we'll replace Bolton.
Bolton had been working in football department more than coaching in 2024, so the club was proactive about replacing him.
Awesome video Sporting Eyes.
As s Collingwood fan I see your point, will be interesting to see how we go in the draft & if we pick up Tomlinson or any other DFA.
I'm hoping we land in the top 8 next year, wth picking up Perryman and Houston, and get through the finals.
Depends on how Perryman and Houston are able to fulfil their roles and how the other players are swapped around, and how they play together on the field etc.
I am concerned with how we go in 26, 27 and beyond, with a host of players retiring & how we can meet rhe challenge of bwing competitive without them & who we bring in to replace them.
Also, how the management and coaching staff adjust to Wright and Bolton leaving.
Will be an interesting watch in the next 1-4 years at the pies.
Thanks, glad you found the analysis interesting as a pies supporter
Unfortunately that’s the trade off, possible success now for 1-2yrs and beyond that it could come back to bite
The first round pick next year doesn’t matter since we’re getting McGuane so the pick would’ve been eaten anyway. That’s why I’m not upset about it, we basically gave Noble and Richards for Houston as we wouldn’t have been able to use our first rounder. That’s a very good trade, the list profile is old but I think our depth is better than a lot of people think, for about half of this year we were playing our depth players and that’s when we were at our best, and with these editions some best 22 players last year become depth (maybe Lipinski or WHE) who are premiership players and very solid. Our youth is also solid too, think Ed Allan and Wil Parker have big futures in this league and we need to get games into them, Dean, McInnes, Long, Harrison and Smit I’m also big on. HDM should get some games next year and hopefully start developing nicely too. That’s without mentioned the obvious youngster Nick Daicos who will be a key pillar in this team for easily the next decade and a half. Whilst there will be an obvious decline I think we’ll manage alot better than people believe, I’m quite confident in our ability to make the finals and top 4 this season and hopefully we can just do what Geelong do and hang around there.
Almost forgot we’re getting 212cm Alex Condon too I believe for 2026, highly rated draft prospect and that’s your Mason Cox replacement for the structure if he develops nicely
This is probably the most amount of pressure we've been under in any season i can remember. We've gone chips in, but there's also the gameplan and coaching that needs to be fixed. Our game style completely changed in 2024 and for the worse, a big pre season is gonna dictate how far we can go and if it doesn't end in a flag then we're cooked.
Keep up the good work
Appreciate it
The way I see it the high risk high reward is worth it , look at this year pies shit load of injuries and still beat Brisbane twice and they go to win the primership , so with an injury free list + perryman and Houston I can’t see why they can’t win next year look at Geelong in 22 the oldest team and the smashed the swans
The West Coast Magpies
As a Collingwood fan, I have a horrible feeling the club West Coasted itself. And just as the draft is about to become worthless due to an expansion team.
There wasn’t any point keeping the first round picks since they were going to use them on the father son pick next year anyway. So might aswell use them for Houston
@@petergeorgeades3082 There are now 9 players 32 or older on the list.
They gotta somehow renew a quarter of their list - many of whom are injury prone - with nothing much to trade.
@@HorizonOfHope you act as though we have no youth? Jaith will look better with another pre season, will Parker looked good back half of the season, ed Allen is a big bull, then you have all our small forwards, I think the pies will be fine, might have a couple of down years but they aren’t down for long.
For eff sake I wish all you experts would shut the eff up and keep your bullshit to yourselves what a bunch of losers.
Go pies.
Covid again?
Collingwood seem to be copying Geelong's philosophy of turning the club into a retirement home.
Jokes aside, I read that they will have 9 players over 32 at the start of next season, which is pretty nuts, and must be pretty close to breaking Geelong's oldest team ever record.
Going all in for another flag like this is very bold, but despite being amazingly well coached (I think McCrae is probably the best motivator of players I've ever seen), I think they may just fall a little short.
they 100% knew its next year or a rebuild, they've just pushed it back an extra year. Guessing they'll go hard for picks in the 2026 draft and hope they get some before tassie come in
going chips in when the expansion club is on the horizon is pretty gutsy, if they dont win a flag it could stuff them for the next decade unless some more father sons come to save their list.
Pies doing what West Coast did in 2019 going all in to try and win another flag quickly. It backfired.
Allan, DeMattia, Harrison and McGuane are all very good, with the retirements coming up means opening up salary space which means we can get the guys we need in Free Agency to fill the voids in our team
Jiath, Ryan, Parker and Sullivan have all showed potential as well.
Add this in with Hine generally finding a diamond in the rough with picks from 35-60
Plus under Fly the culture is good so “homesick” interstate former 1st rounders might also opt to join Collingwood over the next few years.
@@tommyandrewdand opening up the space in the cap courtesy of the upcoming retirements means we can snatch free agents to fill voids without having to cough up draft picks
Allan is also looking to be great, we will get mcguane as well, Harrison looks class late next season, Will parker has some promise. But still thats only 4 players up coming yet to break out( Harrison has had break out games tho).
Yeah it’s an interesting watch. I’d think that the focus will change post 2025, given that this might be their one shot at a premiership with the veterans that they have.
It’s bold, but yeah they could end up in a Richmond-like position in a couple of years, just with less flags.
Tom McGuane also averages more disposals and more marks per game as a bottom ager than Bailey Smith did when he was a bottom ager
I think the big problem is that their over 32+ aged players and they have a few will struggle to play every game as well.
Michael Voss - Brisbane Lions! Dont think it ended well.
This is the last chance to get pendles another medal
After this season we need to stop giving other teams our 1st rounders. Tasmania will come in and get all the picks making us rebuild for seasons and seasons.
Good to see the players weights listed. We must push back hard against DEI Laura Kane’s woke agenda …
Are you ok bro?
shut up mate
Collingwood will have to stagger the 30+ retirements over the next 2 seasons, or the sudden loss of experience will be debilitating... there may be forced retirements through injury, but we will wait and see... on current form, Pendles may be the first to 450 late in '26.
reminds me of Ange at Spurs,trophies or bust.
2025 to set the pies up
Why on earth would Saints delist Membrey? Isn’t he one of their best forwards?
At west coast I’d take him in a heart beat.
They didn’t, just didn’t renew his contract since they are investing hard into Max King.
Bullish about Collingwood in 2025
I wouldn’t think too many teams that have an unstable board and GM’s leaving would be able to win a flag. It takes a whole club on and off field to win a premiership. Honestly can’t see them winning next year.
What a load of bullshit Sydney and Geelong have been in that window 10 plus years WIN NOW
Or we can do what Essendon have been doing the last 20 years
Anyone saying Collingwood is all in next season knows nothing about AFL go have a look at the age of most the magpies for yourself instead of listening to uptight butthurt losers there’s not much difference to most clubs it’s just pinecones looking for something to talk about and know the best club to get you clicks is Collingwood I’ll bet anyone anything that they will be in the top 8 for the next 10 plus years
😂
Pies just don’t have the forward line to seriously threaten (Even Sydney’s flaky coward line is better). Plus a very aging list. Pies will tank badly and be down for some time. Not much quality youth coming through …
Bullshit
I think Collingwood sux balls and r a bottom 4 side and 25 will show exactly that
Wanker
See you and your flogs on Anzac Day for some payback; will be hard without Stringer because that is the only game he turned up for all year
@@AndrewDyson-u2u it's a date mate I feel sorry for U already 😭
@@rosssmith557 as long as Merritt and Parish don't wander around doing as they please like last time, then we should have you covered lol
Good on us! Let the chips fall where they may, we're real contenders next year and at this stage the early favourites for another flag.