The book 'Team Yankee' was written by Harold Coyle, a former US Army tank commander, who in turn based his book on 'World War Three: The Untold Story' by General Sir John Hackett. Coyle went on to write a series of books based around several hotspots between the US and the former Soviet Union, including Egypt, Iran and the former West Germany.
I would add Red storm Rising and WWIII: the untold story By Gen Sir John Hackett on which most of these books use as the background, As well there is a book "Red Army" which is done from the Russian perspective and "First Contact" which started as a training manual for the Canadian Armed Forces.
Harold Coyle is a wargamer, I played a few games with in Northern Virginia circa 2002-2003. We played Lord of the Rings and also a 18th Century horse and musket game called Warfare in the Age of Reason.
Somewhat excited for this, 2nd Ed/version. Though I am hoping for a t-80 kit so I can annoy John in streams and comments about not one, but 2 turbine engine tanks haha
It would be nice if the new plastics made it into Tanks - Modern Age but GF9 seem to have forgotten about that game. Seeing TY / WW3 expand into Pacific Rim countries would be great as well.
I love the look of Team Yankee and being an FoW player it definitely appeals, however, the thing that puts me off is that my intention would be to play Soviets. The issue with this being that to assemble a Soviet force with what is available at the moment (and even for the foreseeable) it will cost me at twice as much as a NATO player to get into the game. This disparity in entry pricing simply doesn't exist in FoW (at least to my knowledge) and it's very off putting. Finally from battle reports I've seen the game seems to descend into "parking lots" (that's a quote from various sources) which also detracts from the immersion. Hopefully the new Soviet book later in the year will go some way to fixing this but at the moment this game is a definite no go. It maybe anecdotal but from the community stats I've seen it definitely appears as though the Warsaw Pact forces have a steep entry barrier creating a significant difference in player population in terms of faction. I raised these concerns with my local community and simple response from a number of them was that they also spotted this issue but they went NATO despite this simply due to their affordability compared to the Warsaw forces.
I played as soviets and gave it up, parking lot is part of it. Ironically, soviets are sort of a one trick pony. If you build against certain forces they have as much gear as you, but are markedly better (Think west Germans). Models are nice, the rest........
I didn't read Team Yankee, but the release of this game did get my interested in WWIII stuff. I did read the Armageddon's Song series by Andy Farman, and the Red Storm series by James Rosone. Both of which were set much newer, in a new Cold War setting, and kind of scary.
I love this game and look forward to add the new British equipment to my army and also the new soviet stuff due for release. I would like it if they also added some other nations like Italy, Greece, Turkey, Cuba, South Africa, Romania, Bulgaria and China expanding it further
Hi Chaps just starting in Team Yankee. I dabbled a few years ago but sat on the fence as I was trying to gauge interest in my area. Back for real now. What's the standard size game now 100 point or 150 points?
With regards to source books, I would also recommend General Hackett's two books - The Third World War, and The Untold Story. Harold Coyle set TY within Hackett's universe (to an extent). I agree that Chieftains is a brilliant, if bleak book.
is this very much a tank game or are there viable infantry armies builds? When I look at the models I really want to build an infantry heavy soviet force.
I have had the book since it came out but it is rather tatty now, decided to buy a new copy and found Team yankee miniatures. lets just say wallet is a lot lighter now.
It looks interesting, but for my part, I prefer the Armageddon song books by Andy Farman as my source for inspiration beyond Harold Coyle, especially for my Baor army. For the American forces that includes US Marine forces Martin Archers series equally hold the source for inspiration. Once again these are available on kindle/Amazon. Tight roles for those enthusiasts. For the Soviet player, a book by Russell Phillips The Bears Claws a novel of World War 3, is in my mind worthy of reading.
We've got a club down in Melbourne, Australia that's just starting up an escalation league, I'm spinning up Syria so I can kill my Fate of a Nation bird with the same stone We've got a player who's decided to collect (at a minimum), East German, Iraqi and Czech, I think Soviet as well If he makes it out alive I should get him to post on OTT or something
While I have my Warsaw pact force (Iran) and my NATO force (Canada), I am curious to see if battlefront will ever include the Asian countries like japan and china. Hell, if the cold war had gone hot it's likely North Korea would have nearly wiped out south in as little as 30 days so those could be added in.
Going to have to get this book. Some views in NATO ( heard in S.H.A.P.E. Belgium late 70's) were based on Soviet invasion, then pre emptive Nuclear reprisal. During that time British stratagy seemed based on actually planting forests in West Germany ( B.A.O.R bases in Germany) to restrict Soviet Armour, As for defence, Netherlands and Denmark, seemed only want to defend at thier boarders. It was openly questioned if the Soviets attacked Turkey in the rear would Greece help ? There was alot of resentment towards British armour and Airforce exercises by the Germans. France had withdrawn from NATO, but expected to join in defence. So now as then , only the U.S was overspending in Defence of NATO. This is one of the few things President Trump has legitimate cause to question ? Given the rise in Nationalism and Trade policies can we trust Germany, now united, to step up and shoulder more military responsibility ? Not very optomistic , yet interested in this stratagy game. Hide soapbox.
No point on playing a modern warfare wargame played like napoleonic wars with lines of tanks glued together. If that's fixed at some point you will have my attention. Talking about baddies and goodies in a semi historical wargame is also discouraging.
You can run infantry/mech infantry heavy lists with plenty of AT missiles. I think when the first ed of team Yankee came out everybody went for tank heavy forces, and that trope stuck. And, in the Team Yankee setting, the USSR are the "baddies" or at least, the antagonists. Remember the whole "Red Menace" thing between the 50s and late 80s. Do remember it's still a "fictional" game and you can still have fun/enjoy it :)
There are people that are using the TY rules at 6mm scale. This alleviates the whole parking lot look of the tank heavy forces and the weapon ranges seem to work better.
@@viperseven1922 the problem is with this idea in 15mm itll still look like a carpark. To get rid of that you would either to play on a larger board (something I do in FoW (10ft by 8ft)) or play in 6mm
NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Not another cool game!!!!! Thanks to you guys my wallet is as light as ever. Quit showing cool looking miniatures and game systems! :)
The book 'Team Yankee' was written by Harold Coyle, a former US Army tank commander, who in turn based his book on 'World War Three: The Untold Story' by General Sir John Hackett. Coyle went on to write a series of books based around several hotspots between the US and the former Soviet Union, including Egypt, Iran and the former West Germany.
Great Book . I read it 40 years ago .
Good to see John on camera again.
I would add Red storm Rising and WWIII: the untold story By Gen Sir John Hackett on which most of these books use as the background, As well there is a book "Red Army" which is done from the Russian perspective and "First Contact" which started as a training manual for the Canadian Armed Forces.
And youtube recommends next :
- Could WW3 start again
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Harold Coyle's Team Yankee needs a film to be made...
Harold Coyle is a wargamer, I played a few games with in Northern Virginia circa 2002-2003. We played Lord of the Rings and also a 18th Century horse and musket game called Warfare in the Age of Reason.
It's Tanks, it's John.... as the universe should be!
I’m excited to see some sort of expansion to this integrating Africa
Somewhat excited for this, 2nd Ed/version. Though I am hoping for a t-80 kit so I can annoy John in streams and comments about not one, but 2 turbine engine tanks haha
It would be nice if the new plastics made it into Tanks - Modern Age but GF9 seem to have forgotten about that game.
Seeing TY / WW3 expand into Pacific Rim countries would be great as well.
The best bit I find is the new warrior kits, which I am regularly jumping in and out of the real thing
It's like a military sim lol. Cant wait to try it!
Great primer on a game I knew nothing of.
Thank you.
I love the look of Team Yankee and being an FoW player it definitely appeals, however, the thing that puts me off is that my intention would be to play Soviets. The issue with this being that to assemble a Soviet force with what is available at the moment (and even for the foreseeable) it will cost me at twice as much as a NATO player to get into the game.
This disparity in entry pricing simply doesn't exist in FoW (at least to my knowledge) and it's very off putting.
Finally from battle reports I've seen the game seems to descend into "parking lots" (that's a quote from various sources) which also detracts from the immersion.
Hopefully the new Soviet book later in the year will go some way to fixing this but at the moment this game is a definite no go. It maybe anecdotal but from the community stats I've seen it definitely appears as though the Warsaw Pact forces have a steep entry barrier creating a significant difference in player population in terms of faction.
I raised these concerns with my local community and simple response from a number of them was that they also spotted this issue but they went NATO despite this simply due to their affordability compared to the Warsaw forces.
I played as soviets and gave it up, parking lot is part of it. Ironically, soviets are sort of a one trick pony. If you build against certain forces they have as much gear as you, but are markedly better (Think west Germans). Models are nice, the rest........
I just refuse to go too high in point count. I hate parking lots and prefer to not spend so much around the board.
I read the comics. It was a limited 6 issue series. It was AWESOME.
hope theres some lets play vids of NATO armor vs Warsaw Pact armor in the near future.....and some grudge matchs on the side
I've seen this game in passing a few times. I always wondered if it had anything in common with the book. Now I know!
Stoked about this... can't wait for that British starter set.
Chieftens is available on Kindle, quite cheaply.
I didn't read Team Yankee, but the release of this game did get my interested in WWIII stuff. I did read the Armageddon's Song series by Andy Farman, and the Red Storm series by James Rosone. Both of which were set much newer, in a new Cold War setting, and kind of scary.
Team Yankee is a decent read, but I do really like Red Army by Ralph Peters.
I love this game and look forward to add the new British equipment to my army and also the new soviet stuff due for release. I would like it if they also added some other nations like Italy, Greece, Turkey, Cuba, South Africa, Romania, Bulgaria and China expanding it further
You mentioned the book Challenger, was that the book by Gary Kent?
Hi Chaps just starting in Team Yankee. I dabbled a few years ago but sat on the fence as I was trying to gauge interest in my area. Back for real now. What's the standard size game now 100 point or 150 points?
With regards to source books, I would also recommend General Hackett's two books - The Third World War, and The Untold Story. Harold Coyle set TY within Hackett's universe (to an extent).
I agree that Chieftains is a brilliant, if bleak book.
is this very much a tank game or are there viable infantry armies builds? When I look at the models I really want to build an infantry heavy soviet force.
I have had the book since it came out but it is rather tatty now, decided to buy a new copy and found Team yankee miniatures. lets just say wallet is a lot lighter now.
twilight 2000 was passion of mine if only they had done this
Cant wait for the new American book ! 😁
We need some Soviet Airborne forces with BMDs and ASU-85s, etc. Maybe tie in some Red Dawn scenarios as long as we're Cold War dreaming.
It looks interesting, but for my part, I prefer the Armageddon song books by Andy Farman as my source for inspiration beyond Harold Coyle, especially for my Baor army. For the American forces that includes US Marine forces Martin Archers series equally hold the source for inspiration. Once again these are available on kindle/Amazon. Tight roles for those enthusiasts. For the Soviet player, a book by Russell Phillips The Bears Claws a novel of World War 3, is in my mind worthy of reading.
We've got a club down in Melbourne, Australia that's just starting up an escalation league, I'm spinning up Syria so I can kill my Fate of a Nation bird with the same stone
We've got a player who's decided to collect (at a minimum), East German, Iraqi and Czech, I think Soviet as well
If he makes it out alive I should get him to post on OTT or something
While I have my Warsaw pact force (Iran) and my NATO force (Canada), I am curious to see if battlefront will ever include the Asian countries like japan and china. Hell, if the cold war had gone hot it's likely North Korea would have nearly wiped out south in as little as 30 days so those could be added in.
Another good book is the Red Army
by Ralph Peters
Going to have to get this book. Some views in NATO ( heard in S.H.A.P.E. Belgium late 70's) were based on Soviet invasion, then pre emptive Nuclear reprisal. During that time British stratagy seemed based on actually planting forests in West Germany ( B.A.O.R bases in Germany) to restrict Soviet Armour, As for defence, Netherlands and Denmark, seemed only want to defend at thier boarders. It was openly questioned if the Soviets attacked Turkey in the rear would Greece help ? There was alot of resentment towards British armour and Airforce exercises by the Germans. France had withdrawn from NATO, but expected to join in defence. So now as then , only the U.S was overspending in Defence of NATO. This is one of the few things President Trump has legitimate cause to question ? Given the rise in Nationalism and Trade policies can we trust Germany, now united, to step up and shoulder more military responsibility ? Not very optomistic , yet interested in this stratagy game. Hide soapbox.
How about a South East Asia campaign
You ready boys for World War 3 irl?
World in Conflict❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
that 's true in 24/2/2022 in ukraine
nice to think of the book vs reality today with ukraine.
modern Asian army? interesting
Iraqi army Vlog linkage?
Here you are friendo!
www.beastsofwar.com/flames-of-war/oil-war-01/
No point on playing a modern warfare wargame played like napoleonic wars with lines of tanks glued together. If that's fixed at some point you will have my attention.
Talking about baddies and goodies in a semi historical wargame is also discouraging.
You can run infantry/mech infantry heavy lists with plenty of AT missiles. I think when the first ed of team Yankee came out everybody went for tank heavy forces, and that trope stuck. And, in the Team Yankee setting, the USSR are the "baddies" or at least, the antagonists. Remember the whole "Red Menace" thing between the 50s and late 80s. Do remember it's still a "fictional" game and you can still have fun/enjoy it :)
There are people that are using the TY rules at 6mm scale. This alleviates the whole parking lot look of the tank heavy forces and the weapon ranges seem to work better.
If you would use house rules e.g. allowing 10cm from tank to tank maybe the parking lot problem would be reduced
@@viperseven1922 the problem is with this idea in 15mm itll still look like a carpark. To get rid of that you would either to play on a larger board (something I do in FoW (10ft by 8ft)) or play in 6mm
@@gaspainsify I've heard about this, but I've never seen anyone actually do Team Yankee in this scale.
I came to learn how to play. Not hang out at book club, bro.
NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Not another cool game!!!!! Thanks to you guys my wallet is as light as ever. Quit showing cool looking miniatures and game systems! :)
I know there is five of us playing for the first time this Friday