Which EV is Better? | 2022 Panamera e-Hybrid

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    The 2022 Porsche Panamera 4 e-Hybrid Platinum Edition is more than a long name. It's a plug-in performance sedan (ok hatchback) that promises a commute as quick or as quiet as you like. In a world dominated by fast EVs, is there a place for a fast plug-in?
    $115,000 base, $127,000 as tested.
    2.9-liter twin-turbo V6 / E-machine
    455HP @ 5400RPM / 516lb-ft of torque @ 1800RPM
    8-speed automatic transmission.
    AWD
    5,000lbs
    52MPG combined (battery + engine) highway, 22MPG gas only
    RANGE: 18 miles according to the EPA. Gas range is 506 miles highway.
    0-60: 3.4s
    CHARGING RATE:
    - 240V is 3 hours.
    - On a 110 outlet: Level 1 takes 10-12 hours
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ความคิดเห็น • 107

  • @matthewrupert5921
    @matthewrupert5921 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Totally agree with you that we need more Plug in Hybrids than we have. EV for daily commute and have gas for road trips.

  • @wtfchazpwnt
    @wtfchazpwnt ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I like the high production quality on this video.

  • @toejamr1
    @toejamr1 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    “Like Charlie Sheens table….uh….a little dusty” 😂

  • @conek2
    @conek2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Here in old continent we typically have car taxes based on CO2 emissions, so the most popular Panamera is the e-Hybrid.

    • @Cloxxki
      @Cloxxki ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, oddly the Taycan starts cheaper than a Panamera which is counter intuitive as EVs tend to be more costly than equivalent petrol cars.

  • @bmx687
    @bmx687 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I love Zacks individual reviews

  • @leedfollow
    @leedfollow ปีที่แล้ว +6

    3.4secs 0-60 AND over 50mpg…. Amazing…. Just a shame Porsche haven’t updated the looks of the Panamera to make it as attractive as the Taycan :(

    • @stevemiller1626
      @stevemiller1626 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The Taycan design works because it’s much smaller and lower to the ground. There is very little usable space in it. Panamera much more useable for an “everything” car.

  • @adamadam6351
    @adamadam6351 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The quality of this video is noticeably higher, great production Zack!

  • @nathanbickel8050
    @nathanbickel8050 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Wow. What a great review! Can I have more reviews like this?

    • @pizzaearthpancakesandother2549
      @pizzaearthpancakesandother2549 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      glugglugglul?

    • @Twobarpsi
      @Twobarpsi ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No.

    • @Twobarpsi
      @Twobarpsi ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pizzaearthpancakesandother2549 haha!

    • @kevindimauro9689
      @kevindimauro9689 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A big thanks for mentioning the mpg . It is important. Most reviews of hybrids totally ignore this especially with high priced cars. It’s not just about the cost of petrol. It’s about emissions of CO2.

  • @ListenToThrice
    @ListenToThrice ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Did Zack get married? If so, congrats.
    Digging the additions to your videos. Hope the extra work translates to views.

    • @flacjacket
      @flacjacket ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ring is on the wrong hand, wedding rings go on your left ring finger, unless this is a RHD car with the video flipped he has it on his right hand.

    • @indiebekonn
      @indiebekonn ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@flacjacket not in every culture though. I mean, you’re probably right but left hand isn’t a rule for everyone.

  • @Trendyflute
    @Trendyflute ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love the performance hybrid concept, the 2nd gen NSX was flawed but I dug its concept a lot, the 296 is the most exciting Ferrari to me since the FF. I know from experiencing the Prius plug-in that it doesn't take many miles of EV-only range to become many, many miles of ICE/EV-blended driving that has good torque feel and economy all at once. It's such a smart way to go IMO, well worth a few hundred pounds in batteries and electrical gubbons for the benefits you get. I second some other commenters who want this to happen in 911s/Boxsters/etc. Plug-in performance hybrids deserve to take the 2020s by storm, hopefully it happens!

    • @muthukumaranc
      @muthukumaranc ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's funny how NSX was ahead of its time.

    • @TML34
      @TML34 ปีที่แล้ว

      The 296 doesn't get better mileage because the hybrid, please. Neither does the NSX, all the hybrid nonsense did was make the car heavier, more complicated and less fun. Twin-turbo engines don't need more torque. The hybrid in this Panamera is better though because it actually has mpg benefits due to the larger plug-in battery, but for supercars where lightness and agility is what matters, adding battery power is just an engineering exercise with no real upside.

    • @Trendyflute
      @Trendyflute ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TML34 This video 1000% disagrees with you, since the highway mileage is better than double with EV charge than without on this car, and I know from experience you get about 30 more MPG when you plug in a plug-in Prius versus just driving it around on gas. Physics also makes it clear that there is ~6x more energy loss in ICEs than with EVs, electric power wins hands-down on efficiency by a mile. The NSX and 296 weren't fuel economy focused in their calibrations but they still gave more performance for less fuel, and the physics of hybrids completely disagrees with your ignorant opinion.

  • @tallguysix8
    @tallguysix8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great commentary Zach! 👍🏻

  • @edysinsimon8646
    @edysinsimon8646 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I already spec'ed out my Porsche Panamera 4S e-hybrid. The perfect colors both inside and out, the perfect interior of saddle brown and black dash just what "I" want! Total, $163K large! Just waitin on that lottery to come thru!

  • @joetacchino4470
    @joetacchino4470 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My Cayenne Hybrid is built and waiting for a boat to come to the US. I Can’t wait. The hybrid power train is perfect for the Cayenne.

    • @PaulTC777
      @PaulTC777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the maximum acceleration is only achieved when the batteries are at 100%

    • @joetacchino4470
      @joetacchino4470 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PaulTC777 Have you actually done testing on this?

    • @PaulTC777
      @PaulTC777 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joetacchino4470 Ive tested it on a different hybrid car, a Peugeot 508 306hp hybrid by Peugeot Sport. It went from 5" 0-60 to 7'5". If you do lots of city driving (stop and go) the battery is constantly being charged so don't worry, you will always have the acceleration when you need it.

  • @GargiPatnaikkk
    @GargiPatnaikkk ปีที่แล้ว +25

    The more I look at it, the more I love it🤗. Next year, I will undoubtedly purchase this beaut, and I cannot wait😊❤. I'm really happy I invested in the financial market, it's paying off good. Heaven bless Debra Pace is for her invaluable support.

    • @GargiPatnaikkk
      @GargiPatnaikkk ปีที่แล้ว

      @Stephen25616 She uses a crazy trading strategy that works like crazy. She really good, I just met her a few months back and the result is already mind blowing

    • @Beaver4422
      @Beaver4422 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow, it's amazing to hear about Debra here... I've been hearing a lot about her on Twitter. I would love to invest but I've been wondering how good she is. Please, what's her requirements?

    • @PaulLeed
      @PaulLeed ปีที่แล้ว

      Frankly, Debra should be counted as one of the best in the financial and trading industry... I started with just $4k, so far I have withdrawn 25k which I channeled to my Airbnb business.

    • @GargiPatnaikkk
      @GargiPatnaikkk ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Beaver4422 She will break things down for you... This is her Telegam-user below👇

    • @GargiPatnaikkk
      @GargiPatnaikkk ปีที่แล้ว

      "Debra_Pace" ✔✔

  • @MicheleFerrariAX
    @MicheleFerrariAX ปีที่แล้ว +3

    nice video, sweet panerai!

  • @relaxingsilentfilms-LosAngeles
    @relaxingsilentfilms-LosAngeles ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3.4 0-60 seems like its for the GTS or S E Hybrid.. I would double check that figure. Still quick and still interested in this vehicle. Porsche website says around 4.2 secs. Still great!

    • @M4X1
      @M4X1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are correct, but Porsche always understate their times. It’s probably 3.9

  • @kelvinhelmholtz
    @kelvinhelmholtz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    well executed plug in hybrid a the best for many. When you buy a pure ev you are mostly paying for a supply problem with mining and battery production.

  • @rbmwiv
    @rbmwiv ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have a 04 M3 and plan on keeping it forever. I have left it to a good friend in my will.

    • @lappu911
      @lappu911 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Does he know that he is in the will?

  • @dantem306
    @dantem306 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I want a hybrid 911.

    • @TheSmokingTire
      @TheSmokingTire  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's coming! One day...

    • @4esttube
      @4esttube ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@TheSmokingTire It will probably be the first 2-ton 911 as well.

    • @TML34
      @TML34 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      why? so it can be heavier, less agile and cost more?

    • @dantem306
      @dantem306 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TML34 because its cool, and i like the green brakes.

    • @TML34
      @TML34 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dantem306 The only thing I notice is how weird it feels, it's not confidence inspiring to me.

  • @greatestsportslegends
    @greatestsportslegends 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Looks like Charlie Sheen's table..."
    I spit out my coffee.

  • @Crackberry95
    @Crackberry95 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m picking up my panamera 4s e-hybrid next week! Can’t wait

  • @eichler721
    @eichler721 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a great daily and if I wasn't looking for the RS3 as a daily then this car would be on my list. I just like smaller nimble cars even in my daily but surely it's a great car.

  • @mufflejoy
    @mufflejoy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember the utter panic I had the first time I saw the rev counter just go dead cruising on the highway :-) - sail mode, waaaaah!

  • @thedrivebygg
    @thedrivebygg ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I still think BMW did an awesome job on the i8, nearly 10 years ago. Full electric mode up to 70mph and a great zippy 1.5 engine. For £50k that’s my choice at the moment. Nice video, awesome car

    • @M4X1
      @M4X1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s great if you only need two seats.

  • @rumplestilskin7488
    @rumplestilskin7488 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hate adaptive cruise, always set it to regular cruise control. I can see and will slow down when needed , I don't want to drop from 75 to 65 because the car 100yds away is going 65. I guess at 40 I'm old cause I just don't understand the usefulness of adaptive cruise control. Cancel and resume were enough.

  • @chrisellis7847
    @chrisellis7847 ปีที่แล้ว

    I couldn't agree more. Plug in hybrids are the answer and need to be more common.

  • @JBsC6
    @JBsC6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice insights . Nice review. Thank you

  • @d-proc
    @d-proc ปีที่แล้ว +2

    0-60 is not 3.4s but 4.3s :)

  • @M5V10-h4o
    @M5V10-h4o ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Agree with the rear-wheel steering!

    • @The_Stanman
      @The_Stanman ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ya I've got in on my 992 and it's hard to go back once you've experienced it.

    • @TML34
      @TML34 ปีที่แล้ว

      pointless option. just another thing to go wrong.

    • @KalleSWBeck
      @KalleSWBeck ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Once you have rear wheel steering you can’t go back

  • @dtmenace
    @dtmenace ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m surprised Bose didn’t incorporate noise canceling.

  • @dpaquin58
    @dpaquin58 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good voice. Great report. Thanks good job

  • @gavinsullivan9015
    @gavinsullivan9015 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They’re really expensive (as most cars are here in Aus) but they depreciate nicely and it makes them a bargain compared to a 911. I keep having rude thoughts about them but am just a bit wary about maintenance costs in a used one. But there’s an older model supercharged hybrid (non Phev) which they only did for a couple of years which looks good. Kids are at home for 8 more years yet! I can get dogs in or a bike in with the seats down and its not an SUV. The lift back is a rarity. Although hof course a Kia Stinger does the same thing and is a way more sensible option (minus the hybrid) but cheaper and with a warranty but a Kia badge. Ho hum I don’t know! Good review Zac 👍

    • @The_Stanman
      @The_Stanman ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Depreciation is significant and likely to increase over the next year as used car prices continue to decline. Tack on an aftermarket warranty you've got a great worry-free car!

  • @thesigurdssonteam552
    @thesigurdssonteam552 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have this one and the Taycan GTS love both excellent cars

  • @IanHutchison
    @IanHutchison ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Is that a Weiss watch I see on your wrist? 👀

    • @TheSmokingTire
      @TheSmokingTire  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indeed! My favorite.

    • @IanHutchison
      @IanHutchison ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheSmokingTire Great choice! I love my American Issue 42mm and I'm hoping to pick up a 38pm Standard with Date in the next couple years 👍

  • @jamestorres5582
    @jamestorres5582 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've always loved this car . Beautiful

  • @bitkarek
    @bitkarek ปีที่แล้ว

    1:11 those sidewalls had really hard life!

    • @MichaelF1
      @MichaelF1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Life of presscar 😂 Porsche “ *CPO* ” “ *ONLY 3700” miles* “
      Actual status: beaten and put up wet.

  • @Cloxxki
    @Cloxxki ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Weird that this one is heavier than a Tesla Model S Plaid. Hybrids are difficult to make light I guess. Ask Formula One :)

  • @IanCharlesPearce
    @IanCharlesPearce ปีที่แล้ว

    PHEV sporty cars FTW!

  • @C.Brooks
    @C.Brooks ปีที่แล้ว

    KLAAPPPPPMAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNN for the W on the review.

  • @KHD1982
    @KHD1982 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'll wait for next generation 2024

  • @bajarekn
    @bajarekn ปีที่แล้ว

    The Sport Turismo version is somehow even more in "a competition of one."

  • @benjaminstuart8626
    @benjaminstuart8626 ปีที่แล้ว

    Plug in hybrid sport cars will be a thing for a while.

  • @masterofdisaster666
    @masterofdisaster666 ปีที่แล้ว

    Zach rules

  • @themk7805
    @themk7805 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Those ps4s look sad 😂

    • @EvoraGT430
      @EvoraGT430 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly. Weight is ALWAYS bad news for tyres.

  • @elliotserrano7333
    @elliotserrano7333 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still don't get the purpose of the hybrid system. Everything this car does it can do without the added hybrid cost and complication.

  • @Iamdaveable
    @Iamdaveable ปีที่แล้ว

    Wind noise is comparable to my 2007 Honda civic 😂

  • @salmanz646
    @salmanz646 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do all the cars you test have Florida plates if your in California?

  • @_kowono
    @_kowono ปีที่แล้ว

    @zackklapman too much gesticulating, I can't see what watch you're wearing. 😉

  • @Globbs
    @Globbs ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol someone has exceeded the useable surface area on those front tires.

  • @rickstevens1479
    @rickstevens1479 ปีที่แล้ว

    My parents bought a new Buick in 68 it cost less than the paint on that Porsche..

  • @user-yn5sk5ru5g
    @user-yn5sk5ru5g ปีที่แล้ว

    Offcourse theTaycan is better, but ah well, at least this is a plug in.
    And then there is also the Panamera Turbo S e-Hybrid

  • @frankienieves5124
    @frankienieves5124 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Car company should be investing more into hybrid instead going full ev u get the best for both world with hybrid ev is like going cold trukey

    • @biznatcho7
      @biznatcho7 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s exactly Toyota’s approach (with a side of goofy hydrogen vehicles). Hence why they’ve been dragging their feet on EVs.

    • @user-yn5sk5ru5g
      @user-yn5sk5ru5g ปีที่แล้ว

      Except a hybrid is not the best of both

    • @Finnspin_unicycles
      @Finnspin_unicycles ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Best of both or worst of both lies in the criteria... From an ecological standpoint, performance hybrids like this are not much of an improvement (especially considering that most plug in hybrid owners barely ever charge them). Heavy and high CO2 impact in production like an EV, not amazing efficiency like a ICE car.
      For econoboxes like a prius, Hybrids can come out great, but if you actually want higher power too, I don't think EV's are beatable (from a CO2 impact perspective).

  • @TimBaoht
    @TimBaoht ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Electric cars will NEVER work...
    Can you EVER see a $2000 elec??? NOPE!

    • @dantem306
      @dantem306 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      This is a hybrid bozo

    • @jermainec2462
      @jermainec2462 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @IReahpZz
      @IReahpZz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Of course you will. Only thing your getting for 2k in this market is a clapped shit box with a laundry list of issues.

    • @paul66766
      @paul66766 ปีที่แล้ว

      okay boomer

  • @hoosiercrypto9955
    @hoosiercrypto9955 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    We have a few years at best. French revolution style. Head's will be lopped off. Have fun while you can.

    • @hoosiercrypto9955
      @hoosiercrypto9955 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@psyker4321 probably right my friend. German's rule.

    • @TheSmokingTire
      @TheSmokingTire  ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@psyker4321 If we see that kind of inflation, I'll be selling my M3 for $4M. Enough to buy one carrot!

  • @sunkistlbc
    @sunkistlbc ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lol