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Eric please release that Jeffery Epstein episode. Like so Eric can see!
2nd this. please do.
Jack M Eric mentioned he filmed a 1 hour long solo video focusing on Epstein and his interaction with him.
Alex Martos So he can “commit suicide” after? He literally just said he was threatened bro too
@@HardenJID i'd like to know more on this too.
@@HardenJID Yeah that kinda struck me as bullshit... Maybe though
I can confirm that we do not say "peoplekind" in Canada.
I'm Canadian as well, don't think I've ever heard it outside of that video.
Nevertheless we voted the hypocritical clown back in
Cuckada
"Peoplekind" is fine but don't dare say "you people".
@Scott A single video doesn't represent what langage people actually use
I am an EE, 55 year old, averaging out in the center politically, and near hopeless in my desire to hear intelligent, true, unbiased discourse. I have a deep love of this country - right or wrong - and am thankful for that love. This is my third and favorite viewing of your channel video so far - all today. This for me is like a drink of cold water after an all day walk through the desert.
This is what I expect a good comment to be like.
Young Mr. Wade - I totally agree with you. I was starting to think common sense and truth were on vacation. Or that Atlas Actually Shrugged!!
@@shaggyfeng9110 Agreed!
@@janekocorek3313 Haha! Well said.
that should worry you , brian
This makes me realise how starved I am for real dialogue.
Let's engage in some Daniela. What is your feeling on the current progress of mankind and what actions need to be taken to either correct errors you deem hindering progress or that can be implemented to assist in it?
Frontline used to come close to this. Look at those Frontline episode with William F Buckley interviewing Chomsky.
Plop. India is a bloated 1400 million, almost all utterly destitute. Africa is set to become over 4000 million mostly subsisting and starving people. Well done the West, without which interference none of that could have been possible
Plop
@Bodhi Sattva , yes, as soon as people like you stop vomiting babies into life regardless of consequences
Disagreements without aggression so refreshing to hear.
And cogent steelman arguments that seek to bridge the didactic to a new synthesis.
@@mikemcfarthing3499 Exactly their not trying to score points, they rather put their ideas out and instead of finding flaws to make the other feel stupid. It's about filling in gaps since one person can't have all the answers by themselves.
@@dcworld4349 It's a sign of low ego / high confidence.
Shows like this have ruined me for debates. Now when I watch a debate I'm like "Come on, you know that's not what your opponent meant. You're straw-manning the argument to win cheap points with the uneducated and those who are blinded by bias!"
My admiration for sure is disagreement with co-operation to find common ground without aggression is the most profitable debates. Thanks for showing those who are wise to learn how this can be done. Works in marriages too.
Sam never ceased to amaze us with his clarity of thought and unbelievable knowledge. We love you, Sam!! Your podcast is a national treasure.
Rosie Alaniz He won this exchange of ideas as far as clarity goes.
@@Thefunkeemonkee And as far as substance goes? Your remark would command more assent if it itself were clear, or even English.
@@evogaming2842 your understanding of the word "average" isn't what you seem to think it is.
@@TheShootist his understanding isn't what he thinks it is? what?
Odd...I've heard him talk for at least 50 hours, and never once does he come close to laughing at himself.
I can't recall ever hearing him rise beyond a brief smirk/'hmmm' about anything.
Polymath is selling you short, an insane empathy and rational insight and humble knowing makes Eric one of the most balanced and important speakers of our time . Eric, as a young ‘millennial’ living in Egypt, damn if I didn’t say you have a major fan base in the most unexpected of places. Best regards
😎☘️💖🎂🌞🎊
Sam Seder is the best and there is a reason why these two fools never debate.
Image living in a time when you can listen to two geniuses have a 2.5 hour conversation for free.
Oh you poor simpleton. You must have voted for trump.
Stephen Leyden Awh you’re adorable.
Ben, did you come to see if anyone had replied to you. Only to find the answer was no.
So the best you could do was reply to my comment that only demonstrated how patronizing and stupid u are. Dude, you dont REALLY find these guys intelligent do u. There are professional rightwing ruling class stooges, but given u believe in the RULING CLASS PROPAGANDA, you cant understand that.
Stephen Leyden you’re so cute.
Cute and adorable. Really, thats the best a little mean girl can do.
No ideas and clearly no intelligence
Loving this guy, Eric. He goes on offense in a way that doesn't cause prickliness or meanness. Such a special gem.
Most people seem to get caught up in being offensive for the sake of it and forget that it is an avenue to solve problems. Both Sam and Eric are great 'cause they know how to stay focused and on track and not get lost in arguments.
If you like, Sam has lots of great podcast episodes and talks on youtube. It is quite the hallmark of Sam's style that he is able to have tough but calm/amiable conversations.
@@howardhavardramberg7160 I dunno. Sam gets off into the weeds a lot on some tangent he just cannot let go of. To such an extent he has to talk about how dishonest he thought his guest was, in a later podcast.
@@codediporpal that's pretty rare that he does that, like a very small percentage of the time. They get outsized coverage for obvious reasons....Ezra Klein, Ben Affleck, etc get the most attention. But the vast majority of his pods or convos... Even with people he disagrees with.... He doesn't question their integrity or intentions.
Sam Harris is one of my Hallmark idols. Great philosopher, great writer, great atheist/secular spokesman. All with an interesting background in meditation making his ideas particularly distinct from others.
Eric is gifting us with two episodes in one week 😊
To everyone wanting to hear Eric Weistein talk about Jeffrey Epstein, he just released said video on his TH-cam channel.
Thank you! 🙂
And it is so good -
I have just discovered Eric Weinstein, watching an episode of Joe Rogan.
Weinstein is a brilliant man, critical thinker, and courageous as hell to call out the establishment the way his does.
I'm sure he infuriates many but what Eric says, at its very essence, is what went wrong with the modern world and a scary prognosis of where we are going.
Mostly I think his assertions about "what went wrong with our country" is nonsense. I also dont find it particularly courageous, considering there are millions who say the same thing.
@@SolidSiren
Ok, you are correct and I change my mind.
Eric Wienstein's arguements and beliefs are "nonsense" and millions of people say the same thing.
I guess I will start watching CNC like you and believe in the establishment.
Good luck with that.
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@@phantom5573 Watch Tucker Carlson
@@yj9032 I do
Hope to see Johnathan Haidt on here one day..
most likely
Would be incredible, Sam is quite underwhelming
I mean most of the guests are from within their ethnic group so naturally why not? Gatekeepers gonna keep
Spencer AM why you gotta do that. Come on, be better
well, 'flopy', if THAT is so - what in the world do you think are you doing here (voluntarily lol), then...."saving us"?
oh, right...just "studying up the enemy" in service of The Resistance, mmm-hmmm... kool stawry brah
"The true monsters like Pandemic..." -Sam Harris, Dec 2019
16:05 Well, Guess Eric now knows as I'm sitting here watching this as the U.S. falls apart from a pandemic it completely failed to take serious until it was to late
I was drinking coffee; spit-take, clean, rewind, head down to comment section, see your comment, "ahh, yup." , Nostraharris saw the portents in the sky and gave his warning to the masses...
33:52 it’s called cognitive dissonance
@@bansjoslave2 hahahahahah NOSTRAHARRIS 🙌
@@antonettprado412 😂😂😂
This is the most sophisticated conversation about twitter beefs I've ever heard.
Hahah it might very well be. And in another arena of entertainment/informative things like this podcast, I say that the line from one of Dave Chappelle’s recent Netflix stand-up specials in which he referred to the exchange between (I don’t want to misspell his name) North Korea’s leader as “rap battles” mocking in particular the (although this particular line wasn’t said in one of his inane Twitter tweets, if I remember correctly) “Fire and fury” comment. It captured my thoughts that I would be quite furious if I - a 29 year old with my whole life and 4 Avatar sequels ahead of me - were to die in the Doomsday Machine (the term coined by, if memory serves, Steven Pinker, to refer to way to the way the nuclear powers of the world have their defensive and offensive systems set up in such a way that if a nuke goes off from any country to another, the before mentioned systems will essentially almost completely automatically start launching nukes in such force that it would be a extinction-level event that Pinker calls the “doomsday machine” that we have constructed) being activated because of Tweets between Donald Trump and North Korea’s leader. At least have it go down on Reddit, if it has to happen in such an awesomely stupid game of chicken Trump played with North Korea considering that they had just built a thermonuclear weapon - whilst until the moment that it was discovered they had it (a discovery that was made initially by Japanese seismologists , not any military or intelligence agency or private contractor that constitutes the U.S. and it’s allies massive apparatus that should’ve been able to detect it) - we treated the North Korean nuke development program as a joke (at least publicly) - and Trump continues to do so. Yet I digress for the rant.
@@josephpereira6754 I'm honestly not trolling. It could truly be me but you lost me about half way through your comment. Tried twice but thanks all the same.
Lol yes they basically hate woke fascism and the reaction to it by the right.
two morons wasting valuable oxygen
oh it full of shit
I want to hear more about the learning that Eric went through. It sounds fascinating and incredibly useful; who knows to what extent any of us are "blocked". Please do talk about this!
I like that all I need do is listen to this podcast multiple times and I could increase my vocabulary 50 fold.
"There is a kind of madness that you have to invite to break new ground. And there is a kind of sanity that you have to invite to wrestle with the madness" 1:42:15
He is probably familiar with the Aristotle quote: “No great mind has ever existed without a touch of madness.”
WOW! perfect!
Sam showed such courage to follow his logic regarding free will and he is a great inspiration and one of a dozen people that has caused me to sit up and smile for his intelligence....but ERIC WEINSTEIN is not afraid to seek the truth and when these intellects meet I am finding myself somewhat taking aback that Sam seems unable to adjust his beliefs in real time and take advantage of sitting with a teacher. I'd be honored to reach a level to be invited to this man's company. The things he doesn't know are the things I do not know and the things I have found he has found to an astonishingly more studied degree. I can't say enough about how in awe I am of his courage to see things for what they are, as free from bias as I have witnessed and without the need to delude. Eric, I just now discovered you, man. How have I just now? My goodness, I wish I had people to share this too that could understand you. I want to shout, "See?", "Do you see?", "Here is one that knows better than I that can lend me credability!" Nice to meet your presence indeed. Damn, I am beside myself.
Sam: "you got your wife and now you wanna close the border"?
Eric: "yeah!"
we have reached peak portal ladies and gentlemen
Well did she enter legally, and go through a huge process? Or did she run across the border for the benefit of drug cartels and human trafficking? If I ask a typical liberal "what is the difference", they will say raaaaacism, and that is incorrect. Politically there has been a high price to pay for getting the answer wrong ... at least in places that have to work with the government but not for the government.
@@bourbonchicken /woosh
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a female.....shit...i mean someone I perceive to be female! whew, close one, Eric.
Bravo Eric!!! The Portal is truly starting to form and present us with some of the most important conversations of our times. I have the deepest love and gratitude for the work you're doing here 🙏
I would be more than happy if Eric decided to work through a concept by himself for a podcast episode
It helps to have a sounding board. Maybe have some no-name audience insertion schlub who can ask clarifying questions.
Of course, Larry Kings are in tragically short supply.
I doubt that would work at all, as much as I like Eric
I have been looking forward to having a place to discuss ideas that Eric brings up in his interviews - a reddit or discussion board where we could have long form discussions and he might decide to participate would be good enough.
@WildSandwich Yes, Ever since I listened to him on Joe Rogan I grow more and more captivated and excited by the ideas he discusses through his point of view. It is as if FINALLY someone publicly exposes a level of understanding in a mode of thinking that I have not yet seen anywhere else and i like it very much.
Eric is the real guest on these
54 minutes in I still have no clue what they're talking about.
sigh. sometimes i cant keep up/attention.
You have to keep listening to them. It will click eventually. Unless your comment had a touch of sarcasm
@@kiethj7 no sarcasm.
@@ripparoo823 No, I didn't listen before leaving comment. That was my mistake. He is right. They make no sense by going into deep analogies. They often stray far from their original thoughts by trying to one up each other examples.
@@kiethj7 i think weinstein is kind of incoherent in general when it comes to politics
Podcast Vocabulary Word of the Day - "insouciant" - showing a casual lack of concern; indifferent.
First and best encountered in 'A Confederacy of Dunces'...the title which describes perfectly our current political administration.
@@marils8452 Would you care to elaborate? I'm interested to see the why's and how's of how you have come to the conclusion as true
@@mrsmith4435 Here in the TH-cam comment section?
@@mrsmith4435 The leader of the free world watches tv and plays golf in-between twitter rants. He doesn't read and isn't interested in learning about things he needs to know. Hows that for a start?
Also: "diaphanous" - characterized by such fineness of texture as to permit seeing through (merriam-webster)
Every time I feel close to understanding Eric's stance on immigration and H1B visas, he switches topics. I feel like he has a shorthand with a lot of his guests that we're not privy to and he feels like he doesn't need to expand on his thoughts because he's discussed it in depth with his guests over cocktails already, but I'd love to hear him lay out his case to someone (the audience) who may not already be familiar with his positions.
I rather got the feeling that he would have loved to dig deeper but sam wouldn't let him for he had to blurt out every counter-thought or association that sprang to his mind.
Lloyd2112DT its actually one of the only things I really dislike about Eric. I think he’s a really bright guy and has interesting opinions but I think there is a serious downside to speaking with this much analogy and metaphor in your dialogue with someone.
I believe Eric is wise enough to fear the possibility of serious repercussions based on the increasingly barbaric treatment of public figures whose opinions fall outside the zeitgeist. He should be wary of having an example made of him should authoritarianism continue to gain territory in the media and academia.
@@LostEntradista exactly
@@LostEntradista Yeah. Maybe we need a "Portal Basics" series to bring us up to speed with some of his guests.
Eric “my good friend” Weinstein
Eric "has now become subject of Joe Rogan memes" Weinstein
Bob “that’s exactly right” Dole
Eric and Sam "we don't like he said she said" discussion.....while we have a gossipy empty discussion whining about people on twitter. These people are empty whiners.
The memes can stop, have some free thought
@@elrud5964 Memes are free thought - just not yours. Narcissist.
At first, I was upset that Sam wasn’t getting on the same level as Eric but, then it became clear that he is the perfect straight man to reflect society’s consumer mindset and facilitate Eric’s tries to flesh out boomers “globalization” psych job. Unfortunately analysis of the how isnt as critical as the results. Surveillance state, student debt, H1B visa wage deflation, govt debt, academic capture of pharma/medicine, etc. Thank you Eric! You are on it!
Such a fun and educational conversation! I loved the softening and gentleness that entered in about an hour and a half in. I hope these two can talk together again soon ..
I love the back and forth in this episode. So much disagreement and areas that provoke internal exploration. Also nice to see Sam smile. Thanks, Eric and Sam!
Eric Weinstein is one of my favorite heros. I'm so glad he has a podcast(I'm so late, I just found out)👏👏👏👏👏
Watch the ep with Bret yet?
This was just fantastic. I really hope to see Eric & Sam do another get together soon.
And still waiting
Dear Eric. The biggest problem of our times is the following: we all know that we are going on the wrong road and the further we go the more difficult is to go back to take the right one. And because it’s so difficult and so painful to everyone in the short run to go back, we all prefer to pretend and emend little things as we keep going. but nothing is longer really believed or sacred. It’s like we are living a big lie and no one has the courage or power to stop it. In our subconscious we know what could unify us and give a meaning to the journey, but the designed system is not designed for big changes. We all see the wall in witch we will colide but not one will talk about it. We don’t need to suffer in order to change. Please give me your thoughts about this. Thanks for your time. Eurico
So excited for the new proposed format Eric. It'd be so great to watch you walk through your thought process and explore interesting topics that way.
Im so early that this video hasn’t even been taken down again, yet.
Were the other ones taken down?
Be Re it’s really just a joke, because this video was uploaded yesterday, a little after the Julie Lindahl interview-but then it was taken down.
@@facesmelt9903
Are you shittin me? Wow.
Matthew Horizon I don’t mean to imply it was taken down under untoward circumstances. I think Eric or whoever manages the TH-cam channel felt best to hold off on its release-likely since it was just too soon after the previous release.
@@facesmelt9903 oh, gotcha
I’m a capitalist loving conservative but I really respect and enjoy Eric Weinstein’s views.
You a broke boi
Same here James he’s great. Wonder if he’ll vote Biden
I like the color red but sometimes I don't
Progressive Democrat here and think we need more open minded conservatives like you in this country. Kudos
To Sams comment on “peoplekind” - no, it’s not a phrase used by Canadians, Trudeau may have been the first one to ever utter that phrase.
I would swap my angel and devil on my shoulders with Sam Harris and Eric Weinstein
Really, this comment deserved repetition?
Colonizer: Plant or animal that inhabits an area You remembered!! I’m flattered;)
Which one’s which?
Ser Aeggo Butterworth One would be a devil and the other would be his advocate
hahaha Excellent
You're building quite the Klein Bottle collection, Eric. Thanks for another amazing episode!
Hey Eric, you and Yanis Varofakus, the greek financial minister would be a great chat to hear.
I don't understand why people outside of Greece admire this guy so much. He has been proven to be a clown. At some point, even Cyprus' financial minister had said that he didn't understand what Greece (via varoufakis) wanted. Imagine Cyprus being against Greece. Varoufakis is a commie clown
@@antikokalis Nothing you said takes away that it can be a great chat to hear. Just like hearing Eric and Trump having a conversation would be a great conversation. Even if the majority think he is a clown.
I appreciate Sam's perspective because it raises the exact topics we need to talk about. He is naive, but that is the whole crux of why and how these crimes are allowed to continue.
Sam notes how the Las Vegas shooting was consigned to the Memory Hole, and finds that mysterious.
There's really no mystery.
Hint: Mass murder of the political and racial demographic at a *country western* concert does not fit The Narrative.
Eric: Strategic Silence - he gets it a little.
Oy vey, actually speaking up for ethnic Europeans seems a little hard for this bunch
@Paulie’s Walnutz very nice call! High five!
Glad the video version exists. I listened to the audio version more than once.
Was this back before Eric had worked out how to have a 2-way conversation without interrupting his guests?
Yeah he forgot he wasn't the guest, here.
This interview is epic - im 38 mins into it, it was recorded in december last year, and already Sam and Eric have referenced the problems of pandemics and racial issues spiralling. Wow.
I love that he added "medtiation guru" to the list :D Because that is what Sam is to me and in my opinion the most amazing and admirable thing he's doing.
@@jfreeman3978 lol
Sam has as much understanding of America as any other LA ideologist. Being smart doesn't change that.
I don’t agree with all of Eric’s positions or conclusions and I appreciate Sam. However, Sam is not in the same universe with Eric when it comes to understanding most societal issues. Sam is great on Islam and maladaptive politically correct “woke” culture. Outside of that, Sam falls behind.
Sam is a pseudo-intellectual, arm-chair philosopher hidden under the guise of meditation and dmt.
Joe Rogan told him a few years back to stop spending so much time on Twitter. From the sound of it here, he didn't listen.
As most intellectuals his intelect is superior over him and maybe that's why he's so much into meditation to balance that... To me it's interesting how many intelligent people differ to approach to life and politics... it must be corelate with emotions. Atavism play huge role here.
Top notch gate keeper. Sam Harris, Sam Seder, Weinstein, they keep the keeping in the family
I wish Eric would let Sam FINISH A SINGLE POINT.
I am fond of Sam, but off late, Sam seems to have a point within a point within a point. He sometimes does need to be steered a bit. 😁
@@Saral_Lekhi Sam is the most brilliant person I've ever heard speak.
@@cmhardin37 - I like him much. N I like anyone who talks sense too...but no one is infallible
@@Saral_Lekhi I agree. Sometimes though, in realizing he is far more intelligent than myself, I assume that even when I disagree with him on points, I am most likely wrong.
agree exactly. Eric interrupts him and then doesn't even respond to the point Sam was making.
Eric, your message is reaching the Southern tip of Africa. And it is extremely refreshing. #thesystemmustfall
Which system must fall?
Eric, without blushing I can say that I found this conversation more profound than we deserve. I would say keep it up... but dammit, that’s too weak. Just don’t stop. Also.... please release any Epstein/Madoff recordings you have. Whether you predicted right or wrong, we want to know what you think!!!!
As smart as Harris is, he is incredibly naive when it comes to politics. Eric is a beacon of light when it comes to see how open minds work.
Can you elaborattttte pls
@@creayt He voted for Clinton? His thoughts on jihadis. His disagreements with Chomsky, Greenwald, Hedges. He is out of his depth with them. Still like Sam however and always worth a listen.
Eric you need to run for president. There is not a single person I know with your conviction and intelligence. Your country needs you. You and your brother are in an amazing position to heal the current divide we are seeing.
I could never engage these men in conversation, and fear I am relegated to position of fanboy. But I am glad there is intellect like this, that is willing to enlighten us to the possibilities of thought.
Hitchens said he only bothered to read the NYT so he would know what everyone else thought the news was. Seems like Harris would've been dissuaded from his confidence in the NYT merely by Hitchen's skepticism.
Hitchens also rightly said Charles Murray was a quack. Harris is a poser.
Nyt is propaganda
"My head is so filled with malware” is my takeaway from this conversation.
Bloatware*
"TDS." I accept that syndrome with pride. Trump IS terribly deranged, and normal folk SHOULD react adversely to America having a lying psychopath for President.
What Trump supporters forget is how many folk with TDS showed up at the polls for mid term elections, and in states like Kentucky, Louisiana and Virginia after that. And there's nothing better than a good case of TDS to bring people to the voting booth come November.
Having a healthy case of TDS is a good thing. It's a badge of honor and normalcy.
Rebel Justice people who allow their psyche to be disturbed on that level by anyone need to reassess their priorities for the good of their own mental health.
Tim Frink Sorry, I disagree. That's just being apathetic. That's what our current President is counting on. I'm not buying the gaslight.
Rebel Justice you’re entitled to your own opinion, but don’t let your biases make you less objective.
Thank you Eric. I'm fascinated by your conversations. I wish I had the intellect to fully understand the content. Glad to have discovered this channel.
Watching this for the first time in mid 2023, we’ve had 2+ years of Biden’s presidency and Sam is still fixated on Trump. Hindsight being 20/20, yes Sam you do suffer from TDS.
Interesting assortment of bongs on Weinstein's end table...
They are known as Kleinbongs.
@@nmchdmcb2366 ;-)
bokangleach lol yes I did a double take
Klein vessels breh, higher dimensional objects expressed in 3 dimensions.
Similar to a Möbius strip
Sam seems to almost go into gridlock during Eric's labour market access bit.
He appears still very ensconced in the neoliberal consensus.
Sam is firmly entrenched in both neoliberal economics and neoliberal foreign policy, unfortunately. He's kind of like a left-leaning, atheist Ben Shapiro.
I must also state that Sams ability to converse positively and adjust positions held dearly or not is admirable and from what I can tell is the only model for real progress. Love learning from you guys. Thank you for discussions like this we can all learn from
This aged poorly.
I'll be honest, I'm ~70 minutes in and I have no idea, for the most part, what Weinstein is talking about. I tried to digest his interview with Tom Bilyeu a few days ago and had a similar feeling. Minute to minute I can kind of follow what's being said, but on the whole it's damn near gibberish to me. The language used seems almost exclusively abstract metaphor, analogy, or in reference to situations that I have no knowledge about. Now, clearly, with so many people fawning over Eric Weinstein I'm sure there's something there, I just don't know what it is. If anyone can recommend something of Eric's that's more concrete and easier to digest, please let me know.
Well surprisingly I think I can answer. I myself can easily understand and find it curiously interesting and refreshing. He seems to be speaking at a certain level that completely acknowledges where it's at and the others who are here as well and stays at that level without having to diminish the depth and character of the conversation. He's saying we need to talk about this for those who are capable and we don't have time to hold any hands, so one needs to take some responsibility and get their self to a level to be able to comprehend such topics. Which could only be taken negatively if one wasn't aware of the difficulty of communicating higher ideas to a mass population the redundant time consumption and limitations on effect. Just means you got to put a little more time and effort into studying maybe philosophy and The human condition and how it came to be today. You can do it, but it's not a simple venture.
Language is not concrete what you learn about it in school are mostly lies or vague generalizations. Language is a living breathing entity that grows with many levels many different possible interpretations depending on simple context changes. Entire stories can tell multiple different stories even being told the exact same way just depending on a slight change of the readers perspective.
Agreed. Sam articulates his arguments and stances in a clear and coherent manner that I very rarely manage to misinterpret. Eric however likes to litter his speech with abstract ideas and metaphors.
At one point during this interview he claims to completely disagree with Sam about a topic regarding "Trump" and then proceeds to give the most incoherent response as to why without even really giving a good counter-point.
No doubt Eric is a smart guy but I think hes suffering from being able to translate whats going on in his head into coherent speech, its like he takes any subject at hand and makes it as difficult to discuss as a psychedelic experience.
I think one problem is these two are friends, and both are brilliant. Watch the stuff he does with more down to earth individuals that he doesn't seem to have as much of a coded language with first. Example: he was on Joe Rogans podcast a couple of times. Those are worth watching to help you understand how he thinks. In addition he did a Ben Shapiro podcast with Jordan Peterson that was eye opening to me. Joe is great at getting them to break down complex topics, JP talks at the same level and Ben understands optics to help bring things back as well.
Jake I acknowledge your point of view and respect your opinion. Though I believe you are only looking at it from your point of view, which I acknowledge may be your only option. As gogoxxx stated you might be more comfortable listening to him on the Joe Rogan podcast. Jake for "Sam" the reason you understand better because he shares more closely a similar perspective, I have spent much time putting others point of view into that of my own to help understand where others misinterpret things. It's just that Eric is speaking at a much higher intellectual level then most people are able to comprehend has to do with his whole idea of the "portal" which if you are not familiar with or have not experienced on your own this will sound completely alien to you along with most of what he says. But it's a very common experience that is very difficult to communicate to people who have not experienced it.
Canadian here: No, I don't say people-kind. I'd rather call people by their names. I'd rather hire based on skill set.
Internet in 2019: For any given job on the planet, the most qualified person is a white man. Everyone else is just a diversity hire or cheap labor.
@@pcpolice2314 Internet 2019, how can I turn being offended into a career.
@@pcpolice2314 except that isn't true
I find one of the most profound statements in the past few years came from Dr. Jordan Peterson. He said "you can't have rank ordering without losers" (exact quote may vary), or rather that having losers is inevitable because you can't have a hierarchy without having objects above or below, or before or after other objects. If people are allowed to have preferences, rank ordering is a direct by-product. Dr. Peterson said this on one of his Joe Rogan podcasts.
Watching this in June 2020. Eric says about Trump [paraphrased], "I'm worried about having Trump there to handle a 5 alarm fire should one erupt."
Low iq progressive pleb it’s not as bad as the abortionist and Marxist and post modernist
How about the call by Sam Harris at 12:10 - "The true monsters of war, pandemics" - This was like in 2019. We were all dumb to the fact that this shit that is happening could happen. Fuck.
Benjamin Smith --I believe they were both aware something was on the horizon, and there was.
@@mattpagel2328 Why are you even watching Eric then, who is a progressive who hates Trump?
Tom Ogburn Freedom of choice pleb. We still have this for now... it fleeting. Eric is an intellectual might and I highly enjoy his perspectives as they tend to appreciate less radical movements.
Scrolling through this comment section, I'm noticing there isn't a high representation of females in the audience (or at least the commenting audience.) Not that it's terribly meaningful one way or the other, I just thought this matter particularly curious being a female myself. I wonder if my being autistic/adhd/asperger's (whatever you want to call it) has anything to do with why I tend to find myself (more often than not) in the company of males with interesting ideas and opinions? Anyway, I know I cannot be the only female audience member and fan of Harris, the Weinstein bros (& Heather H.), etc. so if you are a woman and reading this, like or comment here. I'd love to see and know that there are more of us who either follow or entertain similar thinking to men such as these two, Sam Harris & Eric Weinstein.
Curiouser & curiouser -- Andrea.
Neurotypcial female here. 😊
My girlfriends and I have been listening to Harris, Weinstein, Peterson etc. since early 2018. You'll find plenty of female fans on platforms like Reddit and Twitter! I think the trend you're noticing has less to do with neurodivergent inclinations and more so with just being on YT. 62% male user base and generally poor comments-to-views ratio compounded by recent crackdown on "borderline content" recommendations via updated algorithm = reduction in NEW female viewership. Keep in mind, I could also be entirely wrong lol.
like this if Sam's pod cast would be better in video form
@Jaqen H’ghar, why would you listen to a podcast whose host you believe to be pretentious? Also, there are surely valid critiques of Sam’s style that you could level credibly, but the affectation of some kind of pretense on Sam’s part is absurd.
Jaqen H'ghar I’m well aware that this is Eric’s podcast, but you might want to take a look at the original comment under which my comment was posted. Anyway, puke it up pal, but get a dictionary first. Arrogance ≠ pretentious. Either way though, what you view as self-important behavior, I view as careful, well thought out and reasoned opinions from first principles. If your first principles aren’t tethered to reality, you’ll clearly arrive at different conclusions. I definitely don’t think that this podcast showcases Sam at his best, in part due to Eric’s very different but equally brilliant mode of thought. There is definitely a clash of giants here. Sam’s reductionist determinism and Eric’s totally unique and analytical modes are clearly at odds.
I disagree. I like Sam's
@Jaqen H'ghar 'Like' he is the only one on earth? As in you don't like his tonality, his cadence, his style? Or is it something particular with his substance that you disagree with? I'm actually astounded lol. Harris is pretty damn intellectually honest, and INCREDIBLY open to engaging in conversation even with those who he knows will vehemently disagree with him. Check out his podcast with Omar Aziz if you haven't. You might rethink him of being arrogant. All the best to you
@Jaqen H'ghar He comes across the way he does. How you interpret that is up to you. This is a man who has spent a cumulative 2+ years in silent meditation, so I think it's pretty likely you're conflating his calm and confident demeanour with arrogance.
When did he disregard all theological principles as if they do not matter at all? I think that's an inaccurate characterisation. Harris has always been arguing against religion from a philosophically analytic perspective (ontologically & epistemologically) rather than from a perspective of pragmatism (like say from Jordan Peterson). I deeply admire them both & their thoughts by the way, and I think that there's much to be learned from religion in terms of management & community. But again, as far as I know, (and I've read all his books etc. big fan hah) Sam has never argued from this angle.
It seems odd to take the time to call harris and 'all intellectuals' as being 'self important', when by doing so you seem to preclude yourself from being incorrect about your assessment in the first place, especially given that you already said that you don't truly know what harris' intentions are. Perhaps you're just reading into it in a certain way? Or perhaps I'm just wrong lol. Not sure & dunno if I have the patience to figure out for now...
Anyway I wish you all the best, sincerely.
I would love to witness conversations between these two (and others like them) breathe over the course of a few days. Let's expand on the long-form discussions even further. Just slap some microphones on these guys, set them up in a cabin for 3 days, get some cameras, supply them with the required nourishments, definitely some alcohol, and have some editors cut the downtime to reveal a growth of conversation we won't experience outside of our own personal experiences. Hearing these guys on the 'cutting in line' metaphor convinces me to trust them on an honest budget if they required viewer sponsorship to make this happen!
1 year later, still valuable content.
The crucial point of this entire conversation resides on one person who tends to dwell in ideology-based thinking versus another person who dispels the rosy patina to get into viability and practicality of ideals and perspectives. Harris has a long way to go to play equally in Weinstein’s realm. It isn’t simply a matter of intelligence, it’s the degree of clarity that only unbiased honesty can produce.
Agreed I feel like Trump is Harris' Achilles heel in this area. Harris is typically honest and unbiased but his hatred for Trump , justifiable or not, clouds his better judgement.
Harris is stuck over on the ‘ought’ side of the is/ought divide.
That unreleased Epstein episode is such a tease. I hope it gets released.
@Neil Mo It was found hanging from bed sheets.
If Weinstein's right, it might be dangerous.
Steins talking about steins, I'm sure we'll get some real critical insights
I dont want him to get Epsteined
Finally, the podcast with Sam Harris !!Also, I want that 24-cell on the desk on the left of Eric.
My goodness me what a ride, thank you so much for a conversation for the ages. So much to think about, so well expressed. I’m really glad that I found you
I love Eric Weinstein but you have to admit he looks a lot like Fred Flintstone
@M.V Brown an aged frodo with psoriasis
Like a TV star!
That's who it is!
😂😂😂😂 I was very Sirius listening to this podcast until I came to your comment I just cracked up
Fred Flintstein
Southern Poverty Law Center has a 136.3 million dollar budget. What a waste of money
"Civility is overrated."
- Christopher Hitchens
1:35:33
PC politics is fascism masking as good manners
"DIplomacy is hypocrisy". My father.
I think the most important thing Hitch pursued was clarity and exposing false authority of points of view. Too many things were not questioned that needed questioned in there falsity. He was called a contrarian, he was a skeptic righteously. Thx Hitch, belatedly. Thx for the example and flair whilst accomplishing it.
"Did I want to get good things done, or did I want to stay a person I could live with?" Wow and yes, what a sad question to have to ask onesself in our modern dystopia.
Eric, you are making me rethink my career in wrestling... I had this thought that I might be doing harm to the couple thousand fans I influence. People actually crave being lied to as long as it fits the current narrative. I guess my focus should be to create positive influence using my medium. 🤷
If someone would've told me in 2016 that between Glen Greenwald & Sam Harris, Glen would be the fair and reasonable one regarding the Trump administration, I would've assumed they were crazy.
This is the most outwardly aggressive I've ever seen these guys get.
It's refreshing, kinda humanizes people this brilliant to see ego peek up here and there 😆
Yet still civil
This is such a beautiful and delicious conversation. Very good food for thought. Their style of thinking, though subtle, is quite impressive. Thank you gentlemen
Sam "go wherever you want to go, this is your show" Harris
themovietheride ha
Sam "I'm in a canoe floating down someone else's stream of consciousness" Harris
Those 2 decanters remind me of MC Escher. Thank you, I just spent an hour looking at Klein bottles and learning about the 4th dimension. I then took a trip and returned as a mirror image of myself.
Eric, you're dropping too much lingo. You're not communicating when you speak a different language.
Pausing to google stuff is part of the fun of listening to Weinstein imo
Absolutely, I’m realizing how dumb I am listening to this.
Oh man...lol...thank you guys!
@@joes.8351 Its one thing to have an advanced vocabulary, but it's something else entirely when you ungracefuly weild it like a blunt instrument.
They're trying to sound superior when in actual fact they're using it to touch on many subjects while coming to no meaningful conclusions on any of them
This conversation literally goes nowhere and in reality is all about Sam Harris feeling like he's being bullied by some of their peers. It's actually quite pathetic.
@@RMF76 Wow....I'm about a third of the way through....and this is certainly interesting. o_O
I mainly came via a respect of Sam's ideas and posture towards thought itself....but I'm familiar with Eric and have watched him in many formats.
But at this point in the podcast...I'm feeling a bit odd about it all. There seem to be quite a few instances where Eric will say something or tacitly imply something that is.....objectively fucking nuts. But he'll do it subtly; 90% of what he says is totally legit and well thought out and intelligent and ethical and rational. But then he'll say something that makes you question _all_ of that. Sam tries to grin through it and push back when necessary with seemingly intentional kid-gloves...almost out of sympathy(?) But it's pretty hard not to notice. Weird fucking podcast.... But I still absolutely appreciate it. It's more interesting than 99% of what's out there.
Eric is simply brilliant. I am captivated when ever he speaks. Then Sam Harris here.
mind is blown.
great podcast!!!!
I like that I have to look up words and references in this conversation as it's happening. Keep it up.
This is like the Rubin Report but better because Rubin isn't there
I ah greeeeeeee.
This is the most I've ever seen Sam Harris laugh. Refreshing.
Listen to his podcast with his wife #159 on his show "Making Sense". They laugh a lot and it's interesting to hear how the conversation flows with him and his wife.
Could this change be due to his recent return to psychedelics?
I'm only 7 minutes in and I was thinking the exact same thing.
Listen to Sam's podcast with Douglass Murray. Murray goes off on a rant that has Sam nearly crying with laughter.
Because it's not Sam Harris.... try Ben stiller.
Eric Weinstein is awesome, and I know he's new to the interview space, but I definitely look forward to him sharpening his ability to flesh out other's thinking. There were moments where I really was looking forward to what Sam had to say, or Sam was articulating a train of thought, and Eric speaks into the moment and derails it.
Yeah he's a chronic interruptor and a pretty rude and self-centered communicator in general imo.
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My sentiment exactly , he was doing the same think to Bret during interview.
@@Christopher-md7tf Agree!
He doesn't know how to interview
I love the idea of the white board. One of the reasons I love interviews like these is that I spend a large amount of time researching subjects or aspects of subjects I was not aware.
James Botts same! my “Notes” app is spilling over into a second page since starting to binge on stuff like this for the past few days.
Nothing like waking and baking to this. My life.
love it
Hello darkness, my old friend.
I don't know what it is exactly but i think there were a few topics you guys went into that really cried out for more exploration, and then you jumped to another topic. Great chat otherwise!
So agree, this podcast could've lasted for 5 hours and I'd stay listening.
Glad I'm not the only one. I was on the edge of my seat a few times, but they kept up with the staccato of segues and lost the points.
Agreed. I wanted to get to the bottom of the disagreements. Never got there. Blue balls!
Agreed. .I'm about a third of the way through....and this is certainly interesting.
I mainly came via a respect of Sam....but I'm familiar with Eric and have watched him in quite a few formats.
But at this point in the podcast...I'm feeling a bit odd about it all. There seem to be quite a few instances where Eric will say something or tacitly imply something that is.....objectively fucking nuts. But he'll do it subtly; 90% of what he says is totally legit and well thought out and intelligent and ethical and rational. But then he'll say something that makes you question _all_ of that. Sam tries to grin through it and push back when necessary with seemingly intentional kid-gloves...almost out of sympathy(?) But it's pretty hard not to notice. Weird fucking podcast.... But I still absolutely appreciate it. It's more interesting than 99% of what's out there.
avedic - If you think Sam was holding back in this podcast go listen to his recent sit down with Bret on the topic of free will and determinism. Was almost painful to listen to. Pretty simple ideas to grasp and Bret’s emotional attachment to Darwinism and Randomness wouldn’t allow for the conversation to go where it should have.
While driving across the country, I briefly stopped at what would become known as Woodstock. We did not know it was Woodstock at the time. All we knew is that it was crowded with traffic for miles, muddy, and very uncomfortable looking. So we left, and drove to California over the next seven days. It looked really filthy, LOL! Later on, I don't know how much time transpired, the Woodstock album became one of my favorites. I'm still glad I didn't spend much time there, or rather near there, along the edges, LOL!
what an amazing and transparent backdrop for deep conversations. a window or 'portals' so to speak
I'd love to see Eric have a discussion with Steve Bannon
I'd like to see someone like Eric or Bret Weinstein or even Sam Harris have a discussion with a Richard Spencer or Jared Taylor or even a Nick Fuentes. I think it would be interesting to hear from one of these hated people in a format where they might be humanized first.
@@delailama736 Taylor would be interesting. Spencer is a blow hard nothing
@@jeupater1429 He may be, but it would still be interesting to have him humanized first and then find out about his blow hard nothingness and how get got there.
@@secretname4190 Milo is not a genuine person though. That's why no one follows Nick Fuentes or Milo I guess. Just because you don't find them interesting doesn't mean other people don't.
Every single time I listen to Sam Harris on a podcast that isn't his own I have to google at least a few words
Yeah I think on the episode of Sam's show where he has Eric on, Eric credits him with having a larger vocabulary. That does seem to be the case lol
diaphanous
1: characterized by such fineness of texture as to permit seeing throughdiaphanous fabricsa diaphanous curtain
2: characterized by extreme delicacy of form : ETHEREALpainted diaphanous landscapes
3: INSUBSTANTIAL, VAGUEhad only a diaphanous hope of success
I love the long form paradigm. I personally want more intellectually honest discussions that have the time to plumb the depths. Specifically ones in which truth is more important than tribe, and narrative. And where ad hominum is disdained. Eric, you are doing it right. Thank you.
This podcast really blew my mind! Two first-class intellects.
Would absolutely love to hear a conversation between Eric and Donald Hoffman!
Sam's point about SPLC is exactly what happens when the government creates a new federal body. Its not in its own interest to go away.
I'm an isolated carpenter during the pandemic carving chef spoons for a recent commission. This podcast is definitely great spoon carving listening material. Love it!
Danny Love - whatever you carve while listening to this, would become a tool of magic.
I love the long format and discussion. Eric’s comments on the University system is part of larger discussion about non profits in general. Robert Reich recent book touches on the dangers on the ever increasingly more influential non profit institutions but mostly focuses on bashing billionaires but it’s worth a larger public discussion regarding hospitals, universities and institutions specializing in advocacy of our policy makers.