Mine too. Pallet forks are the kind of tool that you don't think you need, but after you get it you don't know how you ever made it without it. I've got numerous loader attachments, but the forks stay on the tractor more than anything.
I have a '85 English built Massey 283 with a Farmhand 22 loader and the bucket is rarely on it because it is so versatile with the pallet forks. Awesome tractor that 283 and every bit as reliable as my '74 Ford 400SU. I wouldn't trade either one of them for any tractor on the market today.
I was the last Case IH product manager during the AGCO/CIH joint venture (HFI) at he Hesston plant, before the CNH merger. The large square balers were our flagship product. Very much enjoyed my time working there. Great people and facility! Also was a CIH TM when we had the Farmall version of the Boomer. It was an awesome product. They sure went backwards switching to the LS tractors.
We have a 1975 MF 265 w/ the Perkins gasoline engine and a loader. With the help of a friend we did a complete rebuild of the engine a few years ago. That tractor is solid! I know at any time I can go out and start it up and get the job done. It's perfect for our little hobby farm. It'll probably still be running long after I'm gone.
You’re absolutely right about the tc series. I had the tc45 and I sure wish I would have kept that tractor, the sloped front end and power I now only dream about.
I’ll agree with the quick attach. I made mine on my 75hp chore tractor work with an actuator from the cab. I farm and have lots of equipment but that is my favorite.
O enjoyed this video. I liked seeing you select the New Holland Boomer. My brother-in0law and sister moved to Georgia when New Holland was set to produce the Boomer. He later left New Holland and returned to Iowa to work for a great ag equipment company in Pella.
The Massey Ferguson 1359 disc conditioner was a New idea disk conditioner with red paint. I think they still make it. My salesman told me that when I bought mine. He also told me it's the least warranty issues of Agco's entire line of equipment.
I love the Quick Attach I bought through you for my 1979 Ford 340 Industrial tractor. It greatly improved the usability of the tractor. Expensive, yes but has certainly made the tractor a more useful tool. Tim in northern TN
I have helped build those Big Square bales since they were developed! They have gone through many changes, but still built like a tank! I also built a lot of the New Idea Disk mowers after Agco bought New Idea!
I had a 65 also . It would die when I was as far from home as possible, not start untill I walked five miles home for a boost and then start first flip Hydraulics weren't strong enough to lift a round bale And it leaked from every joint
Those Masseys are great tractors, one my most liked products is my Tar River BDR-185, I’ve only had it for a couple years, but so far it has been great and very minimal maintenance you just hook up check fluids, hit 1 or 2 grease points and go.
I think it's good to have balance. I'd still like to hear about things I'd need to watch out for and learn about mistakes that were made. But, in general, I do agree that there's too much negativity in media I consume, so I like this direction, overall.
Good debate with facts are invaluable. MF made model 35 diesel, a great unit in 3 cyl, but they had a 4 cyl version for a while. That heap was hard starting on a warm summer day. Good Luck, love your honesty Peter
I have a 755 hydro john Deere and it is the best all round lawn mower-garden tractor for small back yard farmers. I have had it since 1990 and the only thing that I have had to replace was the water pump, it is still my go to garden tractor. I have a 4' tiller that I work my garden with and it is a work horse. I have thought about trade in on other tractors but instead I just keep running it.
I agree with you about the fergy tractors I did my apprenticeship at a local tractor dealership here in Victoria Australia and they sold fendt yanmar Massey and same and even though I have David Brown's on my farm I don't care what anyone else says the best fergies ever made came out of England
I have a 2003 john deere compact 4115 diesel . i found a 54 inch snow blower and finally found front hitch and pto. But to make pto. long enough it came with stub shaft ,but needs carrier bearing . john deere won't help . can you help me?
My favorite product of all time is definitely the New Holland 3010S 2wd with the Lift-O-Matic (If you've used a metal hood New Holland from the 90s, you'll know about that Lift-O-Matic for the 3 point) What's so great about Lift-O-Matic is that say you are brush hogging and you have your height set at a certain point and you want to raise it to turn around, you'd click one side of the Lift-O-Matic and the 3 point will raise all the way up, and then click the other side and it will drop the 3 point (very quickly so be careful) to EXACTLY where you had it
The Massey Ferguson 1359 is still built like the New Idea disc mower. I found some new ones at dealerships so are they still being made or did Agco just quit making them.
I was out in Wala Wala Washington on a harvest crew that baled straw. With the Massey Ferguson 2270xd baler they were able to bale hills that were never baled before. Heston and Krone were the only baler at the time that made a heavy enough bale and the Heston was a lighter baler so that was the preference. Round bales would have been an absolute disaster and little bales didn't work because they would fall off the stack wagons on those hills. In our area even the John Deere and New Holland guys run Heston/massey big square balers do to reliability and a better bale then the competition. I believe they also were sold as a New Idea and and Challenger. New Idea had allot of great equipment and most of it was galvanized. They had really good galvanized manure spreaders for the day
Selling Kubota Hydostatic drive with mid PTO in the early 80s when all the other majors still had gear drive and belt drive mowers. Really put Kubota on the map
I sold the Ford 1710 in 1977 in Papua New Guinea. 25hp, made in Japan, front wheel assist, great quality product. New Holland went backwards when the went to the India sourced tractors. I think the level lift front end loader wss also a great product especially on the smaller tractor where most of the operators were probably more hobbyist type......much safer for them to use. Ubuntu
pallet forks, man basket for the pallet forks, toothbar for my bucket, . Still trying to figurel out the best way to use my 8 ft rear blade, my box blade and land plane.....each has different uses.
I had a new Holland 1720 built by Shibura and I don't think a better compact tractor was ever built I had 5000 hours of working in the woods and bush hogging on it and it only let me down twice once I put a stick through the radiator and once I bent the steering ram on a rock I just traded it for a Bobcat CT2025 and I'll be happy if it's half the machine the old 1720 was
Kubota L4701 A front end loader. Never buy a tractor without one. Unless it’s to ride as an antique in the back of a parade! Quick Attach Pallet Forks Down pressure kit for your rear auger
I grew up on a dairy farm in the Northeast. We used to run AC, but when Deutz came to the US in the mid to late 70's, the fuel savings blew us away. Those 06 series Deutz had good power and could take some abuse. They weren't the most comfortable but if you maintained them they lasted. Deutz were pretty easy to repair, maybe you had to switch the alternator to a GM, no big deal. Sadly the last new Deutz we had was DX 120. I love the right side, semi truck style shifters. Those were way better than that between the legs stuff on the 06 series. I was too young to know about the economics of the Deutz tractors back then, but I can POSITIVELY say I believe they would meet Tractor Mike's criteria. I think in general Deutz sold an excellent product in the US during the 70's and 80's. The whole Deutz-Allis thing did not turn out too well, but I guess AGCO rose from the ashes, however one feels about that?
My favorite product of all time is the John Deere 10 series tractors particularly a late model John Deere 7810 741 loader with a autoquad transmission I think that’s the ultimate hay and cattle farm tractor. However in my opinion some of the best farm equipment ever made was produced 1990’s through mid 2000’s for all brands many quality products were produced in that era just not a huge fan of a lot of the new hi tech stuff.
I've broke down and bought a 3-point quick attach, but the jury is still out for me. The main problem I'm running into is most of my implements say they are standard category I measurements, but there will still be slight variations that can cause issues. I'm trying to make modifications to eliminate those issues, but I'm not there yet. They aren't quite just back up, lift, and go as they advertise, seems you still usually have to get off the tractor and fool with it. All that being said, I'm often hooking and unhooking by myself, and even having to get off the tractor and fool with the quick attach I think is still easier than dealing with the lift arms and balls. Talking to people, some love them and some people that have tried them hate them and took them back off. Another thing I found out after buying a quick attach is that you have to have bushings that go on your pins. Those bushings aren't cheap for no more than there is to them, and can get pretty pricey equipping all your implements. I don't know why they don't just make a quick attach to fit the pins.
When i was 12 years old , that is many many moon ago my father had a massey-furgesson with a front end loader it was so front heavy that to be abble to turn the wheels i had to lower the bucket , lift the front wheels then turn the wheels ! Ah ! the good old time , things where so simple and easy ! LOL ! I make a mistake ,it was a Massey Haris
Mike, I agree with you regarding the MF 300 SERIES, with the 3 stick transmission, the later models had a shuttle transmission, every one was opened sooner or later, modern MF tractor, complete junk.
The D7 never was popular around here. Everybody either went with the D6 for a mid size dozer, or moved up to the D8 for a big dozer. The D7 just seemed like a in-between model that didn't fit in. Only D7s you ever see around here are ex-military dozers, seems they were all D7s.
My wife’s grandfather had a Massy Ferguson TO-20 built in Coventry England and was exhibit 1A in the Massy Ferguson VS. Ford court case. MF was suing Ford for patent infringement for the 3 point lift design. Ford actually purchased this MF to defend themselves in the case but lost in the end. It sat in a parking lot in Dearborn, Michigan for a while afterwards where it just rubbed salt in an open wound every time someone looked at it. Ford wanted it gone and my wife’s grandfather was happy to put it to work on his property in northern Michigan. She’s still kicking (the tractor…. and my wife! 😂) and has spent her whole life pulling a 5’ finish mower. We call her Fergi.
Manufacturers just don't listen to the consumer anymore. Strong and simple is paramount for farming. All the expensive accessories are getting ridiculous. But, air conditioning is a necessity.
In this day and time, I can't believe they would still offer a loader with a pin on bucket. I guess they are just going after a lower price point for low informed buyers.
#1 . Round baler cotton picker. Point blank period. Nothing has been invented that is such a drastic overnight change in agriculture since plow , then tractor the cotton picker. .
Your #4 criteria is pointless. A dealership isn’t going to sell a major piece of equipment if they can’t make money on it. I realize that some items are far more profitable than others, especially on the back end. But overall a dealership doesn’t stay open long selling goods at their cost or lower…. And if a product doesn’t make money, they won’t carry it again, except for very few items they offer just to keep some customers happy.
@@mungogerryjnr only one, wait till the feeder gets a pebble in the track, you’ll wish you still had a Heston/ mf. Gone back to a full mf fleet of balers.
Nothing wrong with being negative as long as ur stating facts and unbiased opinions
Truth. Negative info is just as important as the positive.
For my experiences, pallet forks have been the most used implement. Can't live without them!
Mine too. Pallet forks are the kind of tool that you don't think you need, but after you get it you don't know how you ever made it without it. I've got numerous loader attachments, but the forks stay on the tractor more than anything.
I agree 100% on the 200 and 300 series Massey Ferguson’s. I have a 245 Orchard Model and it makes me smile every time I get on it. Great video!
I have a '85 English built Massey 283 with a Farmhand 22 loader and the bucket is rarely on it because it is so versatile with the pallet forks. Awesome tractor that 283 and every bit as reliable as my '74 Ford 400SU. I wouldn't trade either one of them for any tractor on the market today.
I was the last Case IH product manager during the AGCO/CIH joint venture (HFI) at he Hesston plant, before the CNH merger. The large square balers were our flagship product. Very much enjoyed my time working there. Great people and facility!
Also was a CIH TM when we had the Farmall version of the Boomer. It was an awesome product. They sure went backwards switching to the LS tractors.
I agree with you about the 300 series Massey tractors. Farmers loved those tractors.
We have a 1975 MF 265 w/ the Perkins gasoline engine and a loader. With the help of a friend we did a complete rebuild of the engine a few years ago. That tractor is solid! I know at any time I can go out and start it up and get the job done. It's perfect for our little hobby farm. It'll probably still be running long after I'm gone.
You’re absolutely right about the tc series. I had the tc45 and I sure wish I would have kept that tractor, the sloped front end and power I now only dream about.
Great list. Agree with all. Still have a nice 1720 NH which is the TC 30 brother.
JD 3020 wide front with HD JD loader, 48 or 148, been quite awhile
Still using my TC33D purchased in 2000. So versatile and with SuperSteer, can get it in really tight spaces!
I’ll agree with the quick attach. I made mine on my 75hp chore tractor work with an actuator from the cab. I farm and have lots of equipment but that is my favorite.
O enjoyed this video. I liked seeing you select the New Holland Boomer. My brother-in0law and sister moved to Georgia when New Holland was set to produce the Boomer. He later left New Holland and returned to Iowa to work for a great ag equipment company in Pella.
The Massey Ferguson 1359 disc conditioner was a New idea disk conditioner with red paint. I think they still make it.
My salesman told me that when I bought mine. He also told me it's the least warranty issues of Agco's entire line of equipment.
Don’t remember the model numbers had a New Ideal and New Holloan mowers parts interchanged on cutter the 3 point was a little different.
You sold me a TC 35 several years ago. It was a great tractor!!
Great video, always enjoy your content!!
The big square baler is probably my favorite.
I bought one of your the quick attach kit not too long ago for a jd 7210 and so far I have been very happy with it
My 1965 Ford 3000 diesel👍
Can still get most parts for it, but not many folks can work on those.
Totally agree. I have 362. I wouldn't trade it. Thanks
I love the Quick Attach I bought through you for my 1979 Ford 340 Industrial tractor. It greatly improved the usability of the tractor. Expensive, yes but has certainly made the tractor a more useful tool. Tim in northern TN
I have helped build those Big Square bales since they were developed!
They have gone through many changes, but still built like a tank!
I also built a lot of the New Idea Disk mowers after Agco bought New Idea!
My favorite was the MF 65. Yes im showing my age but in my humble opinion was great and got the job done. Great memories.
I had a 65 also . It would die when I was as far from home as possible, not start untill I walked five miles home for a boost and then start first flip
Hydraulics weren't strong enough to lift a round bale
And it leaked from every joint
Those Masseys are great tractors, one my most liked products is my Tar River BDR-185, I’ve only had it for a couple years, but so far it has been great and very minimal maintenance you just hook up check fluids, hit 1 or 2 grease points and go.
I think it's good to have balance. I'd still like to hear about things I'd need to watch out for and learn about mistakes that were made. But, in general, I do agree that there's too much negativity in media I consume, so I like this direction, overall.
Good debate with facts are invaluable. MF made model 35 diesel, a great unit in 3 cyl, but they had a 4 cyl version for a while. That heap was hard starting on a warm summer day. Good Luck, love your honesty Peter
The TC line up change things in the compact world. Was a great design team and a great product!
I clapped at number 1. I love my TC29. Also have a 1220. Shibaura made a great machine.
I have a 755 hydro john Deere and it is the best all round lawn mower-garden tractor for small back yard farmers. I have had it since 1990 and the only thing that I have had to replace was the water pump, it is still my go to garden tractor. I have a 4' tiller that I work my garden with and it is a work horse.
I have thought about trade in on other tractors but instead I just keep running it.
I agree with you about the fergy tractors I did my apprenticeship at a local tractor dealership here in Victoria Australia and they sold fendt yanmar Massey and same and even though I have David Brown's on my farm I don't care what anyone else says the best fergies ever made came out of England
We had one of the last 399 s built was great tractor ,still have a 4263
Been working on the big square baler since 77 the first one sold in n American was in Bozeman Montana in 75
I have a 2003 john deere compact 4115 diesel . i found a 54 inch snow blower and finally found front hitch and pto. But to make pto. long enough it came with stub shaft ,but needs carrier bearing . john deere won't help . can you help me?
I want a Ford 8N. It seems to be one of the most useful tractors ever.
My favorite product of all time is definitely the New Holland 3010S 2wd with the Lift-O-Matic
(If you've used a metal hood New Holland from the 90s, you'll know about that Lift-O-Matic for the 3 point)
What's so great about Lift-O-Matic is that say you are brush hogging and you have your height set at a certain point and you want to raise it to turn around, you'd click one side of the Lift-O-Matic and the 3 point will raise all the way up, and then click the other side and it will drop the 3 point (very quickly so be careful) to EXACTLY where you had it
I have a Massy 150 and love it
The Massey Ferguson 1359 is still built like the New Idea disc mower. I found some new ones at dealerships so are they still being made or did Agco just quit making them.
I was out in Wala Wala Washington on a harvest crew that baled straw. With the Massey Ferguson 2270xd baler they were able to bale hills that were never baled before. Heston and Krone were the only baler at the time that made a heavy enough bale and the Heston was a lighter baler so that was the preference. Round bales would have been an absolute disaster and little bales didn't work because they would fall off the stack wagons on those hills. In our area even the John Deere and New Holland guys run Heston/massey big square balers do to reliability and a better bale then the competition. I believe they also were sold as a New Idea and and Challenger. New Idea had allot of great equipment and most of it was galvanized. They had really good galvanized manure spreaders for the day
Selling Kubota Hydostatic drive with mid PTO in the early 80s when all the other majors still had gear drive and belt drive mowers. Really put Kubota on the map
Totally agree about the tractors
I sold the Ford 1710 in 1977 in Papua New Guinea. 25hp, made in Japan, front wheel assist, great quality product. New Holland went backwards when the went to the India sourced tractors.
I think the level lift front end loader wss also a great product especially on the smaller tractor where most of the operators were probably more hobbyist type......much safer for them to use. Ubuntu
pallet forks, man basket for the pallet forks, toothbar for my bucket, . Still trying to figurel out the best way to use my 8 ft rear blade, my box blade and land plane.....each has different uses.
Excellent content
The no till seed drill, compost exract sprayer, and forage harvester
Ratchet-Rake some how you need to get hooked up with these guys.
Simple, relatively low cost and very useful attachment.
Thanks!!! This at least gives people a basis!!!
My favorite tractor was the deutz Alice 5230 and my second favorite tractor today is the Kioti 2610 in the old bran brush hog
I had a new Holland 1720 built by Shibura and I don't think a better compact tractor was ever built I had 5000 hours of working in the woods and bush hogging on it and it only let me down twice once I put a stick through the radiator and once I bent the steering ram on a rock I just traded it for a Bobcat CT2025 and I'll be happy if it's half the machine the old 1720 was
Tell us about the Fendt 200 series along with the guarantee
Kubota L4701
A front end loader. Never buy a tractor without one. Unless it’s to ride as an antique in the back of a parade!
Quick Attach
Pallet Forks
Down pressure kit for your rear auger
The 383 was a great tractor
Like your video and your farm
My favorite thing was when we went from a mule to a tractor 🚜.
I grew up on a dairy farm in the Northeast. We used to run AC, but when Deutz came to the US in the mid to late 70's, the fuel savings blew us away. Those 06 series Deutz had good power and could take some abuse. They weren't the most comfortable but if you maintained them they lasted. Deutz were pretty easy to repair, maybe you had to switch the alternator to a GM, no big deal. Sadly the last new Deutz we had was DX 120. I love the right side, semi truck style shifters. Those were way better than that between the legs stuff on the 06 series. I was too young to know about the economics of the Deutz tractors back then, but I can POSITIVELY say I believe they would meet Tractor Mike's criteria. I think in general Deutz sold an excellent product in the US during the 70's and 80's. The whole Deutz-Allis thing did not turn out too well, but I guess AGCO rose from the ashes, however one feels about that?
Can’t beat upgrading to quick attach bucket.
we bought 2 case tractors and kubota and its been the best
My favorite product of all time is the John Deere 10 series tractors particularly a late model John Deere 7810 741 loader with a autoquad transmission I think that’s the ultimate hay and cattle farm tractor. However in my opinion some of the best farm equipment ever made was produced 1990’s through mid 2000’s for all brands many quality products were produced in that era just not a huge fan of a lot of the new hi tech stuff.
How does the three point quick attach rank on your list?
I've broke down and bought a 3-point quick attach, but the jury is still out for me. The main problem I'm running into is most of my implements say they are standard category I measurements, but there will still be slight variations that can cause issues. I'm trying to make modifications to eliminate those issues, but I'm not there yet. They aren't quite just back up, lift, and go as they advertise, seems you still usually have to get off the tractor and fool with it. All that being said, I'm often hooking and unhooking by myself, and even having to get off the tractor and fool with the quick attach I think is still easier than dealing with the lift arms and balls.
Talking to people, some love them and some people that have tried them hate them and took them back off.
Another thing I found out after buying a quick attach is that you have to have bushings that go on your pins. Those bushings aren't cheap for no more than there is to them, and can get pretty pricey equipping all your implements. I don't know why they don't just make a quick attach to fit the pins.
Mf 282 what do you know about this one thanks
I loved the Boomer also. Since it's no longer made... what is the closest equivalent?
Closest new equivalent would be the Case IH Farmall 40C.
When i was 12 years old , that is many many moon ago
my father had a massey-furgesson with a front end loader
it was so front heavy that to be abble to turn the wheels i had to
lower the bucket , lift the front wheels then turn the wheels !
Ah ! the good old time , things where so simple and easy ! LOL !
I make a mistake ,it was a Massey Haris
UK....County 1164 and 1884, I owned and ran both.
Hi Mike, the Ford 3000
Massey Ferguson Heston reality great 👍 equipment
John deere really fuckèd up
Good job Mike .
pc
Mike, I agree with you regarding the MF 300 SERIES, with the 3 stick transmission, the later models had a shuttle transmission, every one was opened sooner or later, modern MF tractor, complete junk.
love my 3 NH
Don't forget draft control on three point
How can you favour the Massey Ferguson 300 an 4200 series Above the French 3000 series and the 6200 series ? They where much an much better by far....
Easy to answer, tractor, planter, sprayer, combine and baler! 😂
cat d7g bulldozer one of the best ever made
The D7 never was popular around here. Everybody either went with the D6 for a mid size dozer, or moved up to the D8 for a big dozer. The D7 just seemed like a in-between model that didn't fit in. Only D7s you ever see around here are ex-military dozers, seems they were all D7s.
The disc cutters cut thru fire ant mounds. That was the big thing in Texas
It’s sad how heavy industry and manufacturing in England has basically disappeared.
My wife’s grandfather had a Massy Ferguson TO-20 built in Coventry England and was exhibit 1A in the Massy Ferguson VS. Ford court case. MF was suing Ford for patent infringement for the 3 point lift design. Ford actually purchased this MF to defend themselves in the case but lost in the end. It sat in a parking lot in Dearborn, Michigan for a while afterwards where it just rubbed salt in an open wound every time someone looked at it. Ford wanted it gone and my wife’s grandfather was happy to put it to work on his property in northern Michigan. She’s still kicking (the tractor…. and my wife! 😂) and has spent her whole life pulling a 5’ finish mower. We call her Fergi.
My uncle had a 390 15 years ago his biggest regret was trading it on a new case.
It would be hard for me not to put a Bobcat or any other skid steer at the top of my five favorite farm equipment list.
Manufacturers just don't listen to the consumer anymore. Strong and simple is paramount for farming. All the expensive accessories are getting ridiculous. But, air conditioning is a necessity.
Notill planters and hay tedder
In this day and time, I can't believe they would still offer a loader with a pin on bucket. I guess they are just going after a lower price point for low informed buyers.
Zero turn mowers
Farmall H.
#1 . Round baler cotton picker. Point blank period. Nothing has been invented that is such a drastic overnight change in agriculture since plow , then tractor the cotton picker. .
John Deere
fdjt
Your #4 criteria is pointless. A dealership isn’t going to sell a major piece of equipment if they can’t make money on it.
I realize that some items are far more profitable than others, especially on the back end. But overall a dealership doesn’t stay open long selling goods at their cost or lower…. And if a product doesn’t make money, they won’t carry it again, except for very few items they offer just to keep some customers happy.
Massey tractors are junk and so are all of agco products. Buy this junk at your own risk.
The Heston based bakers are shite
I owned one and it was nothing but problems
Replaced it with Krone and never looked back.
Just wait! Been there done that. Never ever ever going there again.
@ what do you mean?
You guys had a Krone?
@@mungogerryjnr only one, wait till the feeder gets a pebble in the track, you’ll wish you still had a Heston/ mf. Gone back to a full mf fleet of balers.