thanks for sharing this information! Getting into LSE for economics is competitive, but it is possible with hard work and dedication. By following the tips above, you can increase your chances of being accepted into this prestigious program. thanks!
Hi Richard, I've heard that LSE like to have an essay-based subject in your A Levels, but clearly you've stated that maths is far superior. Essay writing is generally not my strongest ability, but I think I would thrive in a future career in consultancy/banking. Is the LSE Economics course demanding of constant essays and dissertations, or more mathematics and number-based? Thanks
Good question - the LSE economics course does not have a lot of essay writing. You will be required to explain models and formulae in short-answer exams questions and the occasional graded assignment but these are more similar to bullet points than real 'essays' - in an essay subject you are typically asked a subjective question and asked to form an argument and back it up with points for and against in ~2000 words. These are more like 200-400 word bullet pointed applications of a particular model and the associated formulae. You can choose more essay-like modules, particularly in your final year, but the cor modules are primarily quantitative with little essays: Economics, Maths, Stats, Finance, Econometrics. A good tip for scoring highly in LSE exams is to actually bullet point and be concise rather than try to write an essay. Not having an essay subjects will not particularly harm an application because a well-written personal statement can accurately reflect your writing abilities. Not having any quantitative subjects, on the other hand, will make it very difficult to get an offer. Good luck!
@@the_profsHi there! I’m thinking of switching from alevel economics to politics but I would like to do something economics related at a top uni such as LSE. Do you know anyone who has been accepted into LSE economics or related without econ alevel as I also do maths , fm and physics.
Good Morning Richard, I am currently in year 10 and I am planning to go to LSE to study economics/economics and mathematics. I will do work experience at BGC Brokers in the summer and my predicted GCSE grades are 10 9's (Including Mathematics) and 1 Grade 8. I also volunteer teaching primary school children maths and have been enrolled in a STEM Maths course at my school where I learn A-Level maths. I will take Maths, FM, Economics and Computer Science for my A - Levels. Is there anything I can do early on to strengthen my chances of getting into LSE? Thanks!
Hello - it sounds like you are in excellent position and the fact that you are researching your personal statement over a year in advance, will give you a large informational advantage over the competition. I recommend attending an open day (it can be online) as this can give you further insight into the courses offered. Good luck!
These can be found on LSE's website: www.lse.ac.uk/statistics/prospective-students/phd-mphil/phd-application-process#:~:text=All%20applicants%20should%20have%20completed,is%20not%20their%20first%20language.
Hi Richard, I am currently a first year Economics student and KCL. Now that i am going through with my Economics degree, i realised that i enjoy Maths more than I thought and that I would like to reapply theough UCAS for Economics and Mathematics at LSE. I have A*s in Economics, Mathematics, Further Mathematics and Greek. Regarding my personal statement, do you think it is worth mentioning both my time doing A levels at school and studying at Kings? Also will it be too late to apply in mid January or are application reviewed on a non-rolling basis?
Hello - it would be prudent to get the application in sooner rather than later as the majority of undergraduate applications will now have been submitted for 2024 entry. LSE typically makes offers in February-March so it is likely that they will still review your application. It is difficult to know at this stage in the cycle whether LSE would make an offer: on the one hand, your grades are way above the entry requirements and you have experience at KCL, on the other hand, universities are a little hesitant to make offers to existing undergraduates. If you do apply, it would help to be able to demonstrate evidence of top grades early in your KCL degree (problem sets or mid terms, if you have any). I think it is worth applying - and it would be of interest to us if you share the result of your application here. We also recommend looking at courses at KCL, as they might let you transfer onto another course of theirs without having to restart your degree. Good luck!
Hey, do you think its worth mentioning my current course at KCL and why i want to switch courses taking into account that Economics and Econ and Maths are very similar degrees
Nice video like this video very much Thanks so much for these interesting information about getting into LSE for economics . It really helped us so much. Very good content.
Thank you for the informative video. I am currently in the process of collecting all the documents to start my application to MS in Economics at LSE as an international student. Since the application to LSE is on a rolling basis, I wanted to know what would be a good time to apply. I am planning to apply before the end of November? Do you think it would be early enough to apply? Or should I apply earlier than that?
You have plenty of time. We always recommend applying for MSc courses before mid March (although we do support a small number of strong applicants each year after this date). Applying before the new year is fine and there is some strategy to avoiding applying very early (Sept and early October) as you will be competing with the stronger applicants on average. November - Feb is a great time to apply as this is in the middle of the cycle. Remember, it is always worth waiting an extra week if you can get a better draft, a higher GMAT, or a better reference, work experience or mathematical grade to boost your application's strength. Many rush their applications in and submit something suboptimal. Good luck!
Yeah, go to LSE! Notice that the economics profession cannot tell the world the annual depreciation of automobiles for any country since Sputnik. Look at the NDP equation. It is middle school algebra, only having the depreciation of Capital Goods but not the depreciation of Durable Consumer Goods.
hello, for the career choice aspect, if I am looking at a policy-making/government career, should I still be applying to economics, or should I apply to other courses like public policy with economics or just public policy? thank you
Hi! Surprisingly, your university course choice will have little impact on your chosen career as there are very many routes into policy-making/government. That said, if you enjoy economics, then you having a quantitative degree will always be good in the job market. Look at the different courses, read the brochures, and if you can go on a campus tour, then that is great too. The better you can demonstrate that you have researched your 1st choice option, the more your application will stand out from the crowd. Good luck!
We're a big fan of productive gap years - they allow students to get work experience, retake and low grades, take additional courses and readings and be a much stronger candidate overall. You also get 5x longer to prepare your personal statement.
So should we dedicate a small paragraph in our PS to our career plan? Otherwise, through what other ways are we able to convey our plans for the future?
Yes just one or two lines can be enough. Typically the career is introduced in the concluding paragraph as you look to the future and what you will do with/beyond your degree. However, some candidates introduce their career plan early on in the statement. This second approach is especially common for clearly-defined career paths such as medicine, law and other specialised qualifications such as actuary and some finance career paths. In these sorts of fields you might be at a disadvantage if you do not demonstrate some career/subject knowledge of the path ahead. E.g. if a doctor does not make clear that they know how may years they will be in training, and the key milestones along the way, AND indicate which specialism(s) might be of most interest to them, then another candidate who demonstrates this knowledge will likely seem better informed and possibly more serious about their future. As always, it's the SPECIFICS and details that strengthen a statement. Good luck!
i just started year 12, I do Maths Chemistry and Biology. My school does not offer further maths. Is this still a competitive combination? Also, my school doesn't offer further Maths but they offered me the resources to teach myself further Maths. do you think this will boost my chances of being accepted? not going to school that teaches further maths but teaching myself anyway or do you think its not worth the hassle of teaching myself.
Hi Dan - GREAT question. We're asked Richard and yes - that is a competitive subject combination. As your school does not offer further maths, you would not be penalised by LSE for this. However, we advise that your application explicitly tells LSE that further maths is not offered - this is best added to your school's reference so we advise that you identify your referee and ask them to state that further maths is not offer. If they can be persuaded to evidence your maths ability and desire to go beyond the syllabus, this would help your chances of success. If your referee cannot (or will not) mention that your school does not offer further maths, then you should mention it in your own personal statement. You certainly want to mention that you are using resources to teach your further maths (and name some of these resources) as this demonstrates your passion for maths and will, most importantly, help you to not be at a disadvantage when you (hopefully) get an offer. The better you can demonstrate that you have self-taught further maths, the stronger your statement will be. Good luck and thanks for asking!
Hi Richard, idk if you'll see this but I am almost done with year 12 and I only decided that i want to become an IB and do Economics and Finance a few months ago. I'm currently taking A Level maths, biology, chemistry and economics and i really regret not picking further maths. Do you think thatvit is worth trying to learn some further maths or is it too late?
Yes your application will not be due until January (or October if you are applying for Oxbridge). That is plenty of time over the summer to self learn some further maths that you can reference in your personal statement. It will look good in your application that you are going above and beyond the syllabus to learn more maths.
Hi Richard i m doing my Bachelors in business adminsitration and i dont know how to get admission in Masters in HRM and i always heard that its expensive and u never get the admission but its my dream to get in I dont Know what to do😢
And also, can you sir name some books of maths which will help me to make my maths strong and boost my concepts and meet the standards of LSE maths for Msc and phd course in Economics?
Hi, I am a year 12 student studying Maths, Further Maths, Physics and Chemistry. What key things should I do to show my interest in Economics having not taken it at A level? In addition, if you could provide a link to a model personal statement that would be much appreciated. Thanks
The most common ways to demonstrate interest in economics are: reading a couple of economics books and analysing them; taking an additional course online in economic theories, or relevant work experience. Please sign up using the link in the description in your would like the exemplar statement. Good luck!
Considering Alevel subject combinations I have taken maths, physics and computer science and my college does offer further maths but it is too late to change. Considering this subject combination compared to others that include maths and further maths, is this still a competitive combination for LSE Econ? I can’t find any clear answers online.
Yes it is a competitive subject combination. We would recommend that your referee mentions that your school does not offer further maths in their reference, or else you can include it in your own personal statement.
Yes that is a great set. A top tip is to self-study some economics theory and discuss this briefly in your statement to demonstrate interest in the submit beyond your school subjects.
Hi! Year 12 student studying biology, chemistry, maths. Further maths and economics offered at my school but I didn’t pick them. Is it still possible to get into economics at LSE? ❤
Hi! Yes it is still possible. Whilst optimal to have Further Maths and Economics, neither are requirements for LSE Economics - only Maths is essential. we have helped many students to secure offers with neither subject, however it is important to realise that if LSE knows your school offers Further Maths, you might want to self study some of the relevant topics to show that you are interested in a highly-quantitative university course. As long as you push for the highest grades possible and an A* in Maths will will be competitive. Check out our exemplar personal statement to help you to prepare the best statement you can! Good luck!
Hi richard, i did my 12th this year....with better marks in math along chemistry and bio...but now i m doing learing coding languagees but i hav alwasys a dream to get into lse for economics ...but pls suggest me am i in a right lane of not...?
Hi! I am currently in grade 11 in india and my subjects are english , accountancy, economics, psychology and applied maths (i do not have the option for core maths). I am a very academically strong student, but is this subject combination a drawback? If so which other subjects must i opt for? Also, should i give TMUA?
Hi! As maths is a requirement for the course, it is important that your reference explains that maths was not available to you, and we would recommend TMUA to demonstrate that you can do maths, or else find a way to study core maths and complete the qualification. Good luck!
Hello Richard, I am European baccalaureate student from Luxembourg and it would be an absolute dream of mine to get into LSE economics at undergraduate level. However, even though my school offers an economics course as well as maths 5 periods and maths 8 periods per week, I did not choose these subjects as I did not know that I wanted to study economics before (I am in my last year and have to apply soon). I have 3 period maths (the minimum) and my main subjects are English, Geography and German. I also have 2 periods of history per week and chose the optional courses Sociology and ICT. Is it still possible for me to get in? (A brutally honest answer would be great), thank you!
Hi Maria - thanks for asking. I'm afraid that all LSE's undergraduate economics courses require A-level equivalent maths, which is typically 5-period maths in the European Baccalaureate (source: assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5fb7f9838fa8f559e0e5cc04/EU_Baccalaureate_guidance_for_HE.pdf). Given that you do not have other maths related subjects (e.g. physics), I do not think LSE would consider your application this year. However, that does not mean you cannot apply to a non-economics LSE course. Alternatively, The Profs often supports students to take a gap year, and fast-track the entire maths A level in that year, whilst also allowing time to explore work experience and travel. Whilst a year can feel like a very long time to a ~18 year old. It is a very small investment in the grand scheme of life, especially if it fast tracks you to were you want to go. Lastly, it is possible to do a less quantitative course, receive a very high grade whilst taking additional maths modules (at university or in additional to your course). and to apply for an MSc at LSE. Just make sure that you build on and can prove your maths ability by the time you apply. Good luck! We're rooting for you!
Hi Anuja - there are multiple variations of political science courses at LSE. For example, MSc Political Science (Political Science and Political Economy) states on the LSE website that "The stream relies significantly on the use of mathematical concepts (eg statistics and game theory) and their applications to modern political science. As a result, we expect you to have either (a) previous exposure to key mathematical concepts (intermediary level or above in algebra and real analysis, some exposure to probabilities), or (b) to be willing to invest some additional time in developing those skills (for instance through the 'maths camp' offered prior to the beginning of the Autumn Term)." Please see the different political science courses available on LSE's website and which do and do not require mathematics.
Hello Richard, I am right now 15 years old and my IGCSE test is in exactly one year. I just wanted to make this clear, I have got 9 subjects in IGCSE, one of them is additional math. LSE is a highly competitive university, so what is in your opinion the lowest grades to get for my IGCSE, are we talking about five A* and the rest can all be Bs, or are we talking about going straight A, get 9 As in all 9 subjects? Because I don't think that's not impossible but a bit hard, since my school is not too good at actually teaching us things, so I have to self learn most things. Here are my subjects: French, math, add math, history, English, economics, physics, chemistry, biology. Except for math and add math, which ones do you think I should massively prioritise to get an A star in? Thank you so much! Also, I am planning to take math, further math, history and economics for my A level, does that sound good? Thank you so much! Edit: I see most of the other comments and questions under this video is asking about A levels, so please, straight up, how important is IGCSE grades really? Thx
Hi James! For LSE, (I)GCSEs are weighted more heavily than other universities because LSE likes to see a long track record of success. As you correctly say, having the highest grades in maths is very important for LSE for their quantitative degrees (economics, finance, PPE, maths etc) and still considered important for subjects such as law, IR and government. LSE's website asks for "A strong set of GCSE grades including the majority at A (or 7) and A* (or 8-9) Your GCSE (or equivalent) English Language and Mathematics grades should be no lower than B (or 6). We also consider your overall GCSE subject profile" Realistically, you want at least half A*s (8+) and the rest As (7) to be competitive. Anything above this will of course increase your chances. You could get away with one or two Bs (6 and below), especially if they are not in core subjects (maths, sciences, english, history). This is assuming you receive predictions of the minimum A*AA for A level. Also LSE are very likely to give some consideration to where you rank in your school - meaning that if you have the highest grades of your year, this should give you an advantage over someone with the same grades who ranks 'average' in their school year. This is why it is important that your referee knows to share your rank if you are one of the strongest students in your year. Hopefully, that helps. It's always best to work your hardest and get the very highest grades you are capable of! Remember, GCSEs do not really test who is the smartest, but who revises the smartest and hardest! Good luck in your IGCSEs!
Hi there Richard, I have got into a new school in the past week. Now here is my issue, now I know that economics and history are two major subjects that LSE look for but they are in the same block at my school meaning they are in the same time period so I could only choose 1. So I went with Economics. Now my question is I took geography in my 3rd block, now there is a lot of writing in it so do you think I can choose it for my A level as one of the essay subjects? Also, how advantageous is taking computer science? Right now I am taking 8 subjects for IGCSE and they are: Add math( but we also learn normal math), english, physics, chemistry, geography, art ( but I want to change this to biology), Chinese ( but I am going to try to change into french), and economics. Is this good? Thank you so much for all the free advice btw :) A level game plan: Going to take Economics, math, further math, geography @@the_profs
Hi Richard, I just started y12 a few months ago and I take maths, physics, economics and I'm doing an EPQ related to economics. I did decent in GCSE's all 7s, 8s and one 9 ( 8 in maths). Is it possible that I could still get into LSE economics for undergraduate level without further maths?
Hi - great that you are thinking ahead! Yes, with those strong GCSEs, and especially an 8 in maths GCSE, you can be a competitive applicant. Focus on getting an A* in your maths, and we recommend that you also self-study a few Further Maths concepts during the summer holiday between y12 and y13 - this will give you a greater chance of securing the A* overall, and you can then name drop one or two concepts that you have studied, and ideally a text book or maths book to boost your personal statement. Tell your referee/maths teacher about this self study, so that they can write that they are impressed by your dedication in their reference, to give you a further boost! Lastly, if you can do even a couple of days work experience in a company that offers some insights into economics as a profession, this would really help your personal statement also. Good luck!
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Hi. I got a in my gcse extended math. It’s not great. My school didn’t offer add math or further math because of lack of teachers. But I will work hard for ib and try my best to get 7 in ib high level math. Will it still reduce my chances because of my gcse grade?
Whilst higher grades are always advantageous, being predicted a Higher Level 7 in IB maths will be sufficient. Please remember Richard's tip that your school reference should make clear that Further Maths was not an option to you, and also think of ways in which you can go beyond the IB syllabus and demonstrate this interest and ability in maths in your Personal Statement to LSE to maximise your changes of success. Good luck!
Hi, I am currently studying maths, law, and economics. I do not study further maths, even though this was an option. Will not doing further maths disdvantage me, and if so, is there any way around it?
Hi Liam - if you are applying for economics at LSE and could have undertaking further maths but chose not to, then this might disadvantage you. This is because the university might question why you did not select further maths. If you are applying from a well-known school (e.g. a school that sends lots of students to LSE and/or a selective grammar/private school) then it is more likely that LSE will known that further maths was an option to you. If you are applying from a school that very rarely sends students to LSE, then it is hard for LSE to know whether further maths was an option. In order to mitigate, we suggest: 1) You will certainly need a very high A* in single maths. 2) Your referee will need to speak very highly of your maths ability and have full confidence in your ability to succeed in LSE's rigorous course. 3) You will want to show that you have gone far beyond the single maths syllabus. E.g. UK Maths Challenge Silver or Gold and taking an additional maths courses through a platform such as Coursera and mentioning this in your personal statement 4) Ideally, if possible, it is worth transferring onto further maths and working extra hard to catch up - you can then evidence this switch in your application to show your dedicate to maths, and you will be better prepared for LSE should you be accepted. You will need to learn the content of further maths - either before or during university, and it is much easier to learn it at school during classes than trying to teach yourself at university with very limited teaching time. Good luck!
Hi Richards, I was wondering how much of an advantage it would be for me if I take further math in GCSE and A-levels, I heard that I was very hard and at my school there will only be one lesson on further math a week so most of it will be self-studying. I would like to know if it is worth it. What do you think in your opinion is the best trio subject to study in A-levels to get into LSE? I was thinking maybe Mathematics, Economics and Business. Would like be good?
Hi - Further Maths A level would certainly help your application but you would be expected to receive an A* in it. You will need to self-study consistently and hard to achieve an A* so we would also advise that you mention that you self-studied with only one lesson in your personal statement, and ask your referee to also mention this. To receive a high grade self-studying is more impressive than those who had full-time teaching in the subject and received the same grade. Maths and Further Maths are the stronger two subjects to have for LSE Economics. I would not recommend Business as a third A level (it is OK as a fourth) as it is not well respected in the UK. Instead, and essay subject such as History, English, or a Social Science such as Economics, Philosophy/Theology/RS or Psychology would be a stronger third subject. However, you should take a subject that you can get at least an A in and this is easier if you enjoy the subject and have some ability in it already. LSE reports that the most common subjects for offer holders are "Economics; Physics; History; Chemistry; English and Government and Politics, of which Economics, History, English and Government and Politics are good indicators of writing ability" Good luck!
@@the_profs Thank you very much, never thought of replacing Business as a third, since its kind of related to Economics. Guess I will chose history then, pretty interesting subject. Thank you very much. Last question, should I take a 4th A-level? If I can take business as a 4th A-level and get A that would certainly put me ahead of other applicants also for LSE right? :)
@@TunaDominationWe have not seen that a 4th A level adds much of a strategic advantage over 3 level candidates, although I have once in passing heard an admissions officer say that between two equal candidates from a similar socio-economic background a school, the 4th A level might be a deciding factor in going ahead with one. It does however, give you a lifeline if one of your A level grades is lower than predicted, and this would otherwise fall short of your offer. Business A level is not very highly regraded by LSE to this A level in particular would not add much to the application if you are confident that you can get the grade requirements for your 3 core subjects (this is a risk if you drop a grade). Good luck!
Hi - if your subject has required subjects (e.g. maths is a requirement for many courses) then you must take those subjects. Beyond that, take the subjects that you can get the highest grades in because you enjoy and/or are good at those subjects. Try and avoid the subjects that are not as respected: media studies, business studies, critical thinking after AS, etc.
Hi, I’m a A level student taking maths, economics, physics and chemistry at A levels. I’ve got predicted A stars for all these 4 subjects. My school does not offer further maths, and thus I haven’t been able to take it, do u think I can still get into lse bsc economics without further maths at a levels?
Hi, I would really appreciate your advice on this, and if you could answer my message I would be infinitely grateful. I am an A level retaker to get A* in maths and economics next year and I am debating taking an AS further maths as I’m starting to think further maths is necessary to have a chance to get in Bsc economics at lse. Would you advice that I do? Id also like to mention I’m self studying with some external tutoring. I’m weighing up the time cost of taking this course as I could use that time instead doing courses or work experience to enrich my application!
Good question. Universities can be discouraging of retakes but it can be a good strategy if done correctly. It is worth contacting the office to discuss this further and to see if our premium mentoring services will be useful to your unique case. We would recommend adding Further Maths AS because this shows you you are not just 'retaking' a year, but going further than last year. It would also be recommended lining up some really good work experiences that you can talk of in your personal statement to show that you will use the additional year to make yourself a much stronger applicant, and also to demonstrate your perseverance. Good luck!
We think gap years can be brilliant if you use them to find an internship and possibly to do additional courses as you suggest. As further maths is not a struct requirement, why not apply this year and see if you are happy with the offers you receive. If not, you can then consider how to make use of a productive gap year to boost your chances in the future?
Hi Richard, I am going to a 6th form and am going to choose the subjects further maths, maths and economics. Will i be in any disadvantage if i dont pick a fouth A level? (I am thinking about picking business.) I dont really want to do a forth becuase i just want to focus on 3 a levels and get a* in all of them. I think if i get 4 a levels the presure wil be more intense and i wil not be able to keep up. So will i be in any disadvantage if i dont pick 4? And when should you start with studying for the TMUA. Cus i am in year 11 and i want to do TMUA but i dont know when to start studying to get the best grade. Will studying 1.5 year in advance be good for TMUA? Also i heard that reading books is an supercurricular and i am reading some economics books but should i also read some maths books? And how many books should i read to be at an advantage? (I have only read about 2 books on economics but want to read more). Thank you :) :)
Hi Hiraku - doing 3 A levels will not put you at a disadvantage, and if you are able to focus on them to achieve higher grades in those 3, then you are more likely to receive an offer. Having 4 A levels, however, can give you a back up if you drop a great, but it's a big step up doing a 4th A level. If you are a private school in the UK, there is a suggestion that 4 A levels is expected, but this is not confirmed. The more time you have to work on the TMUA, the better. You will want at least 6 months to prepare.
Hello Sir, thank you for sharing a very informative video. I am 24yrs old. I have secured 10CGPA in 10th grade and 97% in year 12 (prime subjects were mathematics, economics & commerce). I have completed my CA articleship from PwC and I am yet to clear my CA final examination. I have also completed bachelor’s degree in commerce with 65% from a recognised university in India. There has been a gap of 3 years in my academic history. I am interested in MA economics. Could you please tell me if I am at a disadvantage?
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Hey there . I currently studying A levels (AS level) and my subject combination are Business , Maths , Economics , Information Technology and English . Is this a competitive subject combination for applying in LSE to pursue BSc Economics ? What would you suggest me with the subject combination, I’m really confused . If I score good grades in my A levels board examination and have a strong personal statement , will I be considered as one of the strongest competitors to get into LSE with the given subject combination mentioned above . ( please answer brutally honest)
Hi - that is a good subject combination. Maths will be the most important grade and must be an A* to be considered by LSE. If you school offers Further Maths, and you can score an A* in this, that would strength your application and could replace IT, or English (it is however good to have an essay subject). You will need to receive high grades of at least A*AA and to be one of the strong candidates you should aim for more A*s and also relevant work experience. Good luck!
Hi Richard, im currently in year 12 and Im doing my AS levels predicted AAAB (Hoping on A*AA in year 13 figers crossed if i get high As) but i have a problem i got a level 7 in maths at a gcse level and a u in additional maths igcse ( due to a lack of preparation by my school) should i even bother with applying?
Hi Modo - thanks for your question. A*AA will help a lot over AAAB (fingers crossed for you). If you have a level 7 in Maths GCSE, we would recommend that you ask your school not to report the U in additional maths iGCSE. It is extremely rare for someone to take both a GCSE and an iGCSE in the same subject. We would argue that the level 7 in maths GCSE is representative of your true ability and the iGCSE was an optional extra that does not need to be disclosed. If the school, or you, feel that you must disclose the U, then it is important that your referee address this briefly and explains that the GCSE lvl7 and not the iGCSE is an accurate representation of your ability. Strategically, you would be better off not disclosing your iGCSE. Similarly, we would recommend that you apply with predicted A*AA in year 13, and do not mention the B prediction in your AAAB. Counter-intuitively, AAA is stronger than AAAB because it is a higher average, even though an additional AS level is a lot more work. You should not be put off from applying due to your iGCSE. LSE would not be more or less harsh on you applying as an international student. 70% of LSE students are international students.
Hi sir! I hope you see this message one day. I really need your reply on this sir, and thank you for replying to my previous message. Sir I was a very average student all my school life. And I was not really good at maths but my maths result was very good in 10th class and was bad in 12th. I am really working hard for math. I am clearing all my concepts and trying to be good at it and I saw outstanding results and many more to achieve. Sir people like me who were not good enough but now they are, should not they get a chance. Is there any system at LSE like you can crack a math aptitude or something for studying a msc or phd course rather than depending on your school results? What about them who really dream about studying at LSE but were not good enough at math in school but now they are strong at math? please reply sir!
Hi! It is usually less competitive at Masters’ and PhD level to get into LSE and your school results matter less than your university grades and work experience as you apply for the more advanced courses. So even if you do not have the grades for an undergraduate, you can strategise a 5-year plan to get strong university grades and work experiences to give you best shot at an MSc. There are also additional tests such as TMUS (undergraduate) and GMAT (postgraduate) which are specifically to allow students to demonstrate their abilities outside of school grades. Good luck!
Hello may I have some help please with my application. I study biology chemistry maths and predicted a*a*a (a in biology) I received a 8 in gcse maths however I was put into set 2 so I never did gcse further maths, as I never did this I never even thought of taking a level further maths. Also initially I wanted to do dentistry explaining my alevels. I really want to get into lse for economics, I’ve read lots of books and and my dad is a self employed successful accountant so I have done lots of work experience. I even received a rental property for me to mange, However I have not done a level further maths and it is stressing me out so much, can you please help me on what work experience and and further things I need to do to be able to get into use. I only decided I wanted to do economics in April so I only have one summer school and no internships. My postcode is in the underprivileged section aswell. I am willing to do anything so could I have your assistance on what step I should take next.
Hello Sam! Sounds like you are in a strong position so please do not be too stressed. If you school did not offer further maths, then it is not expected. If you school did offer further maths, then it is likely worth self-learning some more advanced concepts and discussing these in your personal statement, and also making your referee aware of this additional extracurricular work. If you are interested in our paid services, please see details in the description for how to contact our award-winning admissions team. Good luck!
Hi Richard, I'm currently in grade 10 (year 11) and I did not choose additional math in IGCSE and instead chose extended math (easier math) I get really good grades and score the highest most of the time ,,, So should I take further mathematics in A level? but I'm pretty sure it is going to be difficult for me. What do you suggest, normal math or further math? Also do you think that english is important for LSE econ?
Hi! If you have the option, take Further Maths. LSE may mark you down for not choosing further maths when it is available at your school, especially if other candidates from your school apply with further maths, and so the admissions officer may be aware of your choice. It may be more work now, but LSE Economics will expect you to know the more advanced concepts, so you might as well start learning the advanced concepts now, rather than in your first year of university, when you will be taking other, more challenging courses. Secondly, it is much easier to learn these concepts at school with a teacher, than self-study at university where you will not have lessons. Lastly, if you are not able to score highly in Further Maths, then you would unlikely succeed in LSE Economics as it is an extremely mathematical course. In which case you may wish to apply to a joint-degree that combines economics with another subject. English as an academic subject is a fine A level and will not harm your application chances. It is good to have one written subject such as English Literature or History, although not necessary.
@@the_profs Thanks for your reply! I talked to a few other people from LSE and they said the same thing.. So, I'm studying Further maths separately right now so that I can take it in A levels,,, Thanks!!!
A* in single maths (some schools make their pupils sit all single maths modules in year 12 so that they can evidence an A* before their university application). Some of these students score less well in Year 13 further maths modules and so score an A overall. This is refereed to as A*A (A*s in single maths and A in further maths).
Hi....! I am from Pakistan 🇵🇰. Undergraduate student Study international relations. As there is any opportunities on the behalf of scholarship to study there in LSE
Hi Richard I am currently studying in grade 11 (India) with English, Math, Chemistry, Physics and Economics. Although I have been great (and gotten amazing grades) at math throughout my school life, my 10th grade marks are only 87/100 (overall in science, social studies, hindi, english, math - 93.8%). I am very interested in the undergraduate Economics course offered by LSE. I checked their website and it says that taking the TMUA is helpful for degrees offered by the Department of Mathematics. I wanted to ask if taking the TMUA would help my application or if I should focus on improving my work experience and taking courses rather than TMUA. Thank you :)
I'm also interested to pursuing my undergraduate degree at LSE. I am looking at those students who were prepared for that ! Therefore can we communicate each other ?
Hi Vashvi. Yes, any further evidence of quantitative ability an/or going above and beyond what your school requires will increase your chances of success. It is not necessary if you can show very strong grades in maths (A* equivalent) but it will allows help you to stand out going above and beyond. Obtaining a high grade in an external course such as the Test of Mathematics for University Admission (TMUA) will demonstrate your interest and ability in maths, and is something worth devoting addition to in your personal statement - and also asking your referee to mention. LSE strongly favour students with a long track record of mathematics, and so anything extra-curricular that do, will help your chances. In order to get into the most competitive courses, you should do everything you can. Focus on both the TMUA and securing a good work experience - other top candidates will be doing the same to earn their place.
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Very helpful, I wish this video came out before I submitted my application :(
did you get in?
thanks for sharing this information! Getting into LSE for economics is competitive, but it is possible with hard work and dedication. By following the tips above, you can increase your chances of being accepted into this prestigious program. thanks!
Thanks so much for these interesting information about getting into LSE for economics . You really helped me out
Amazing video. Super informative and help. I will recommend this to many many people.
Useful video about the topic. Informative indeed
Thanks so much for these interesting information about getting into LSE for economics . It really helped us so much. Very good content.
The tuitorial helped me a lot to be prepared for the global masters
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This is very informative video. Thanks for the help
Hi Richard,
I've heard that LSE like to have an essay-based subject in your A Levels, but clearly you've stated that maths is far superior. Essay writing is generally not my strongest ability, but I think I would thrive in a future career in consultancy/banking. Is the LSE Economics course demanding of constant essays and dissertations, or more mathematics and number-based?
Thanks
Good question - the LSE economics course does not have a lot of essay writing. You will be required to explain models and formulae in short-answer exams questions and the occasional graded assignment but these are more similar to bullet points than real 'essays' - in an essay subject you are typically asked a subjective question and asked to form an argument and back it up with points for and against in ~2000 words. These are more like 200-400 word bullet pointed applications of a particular model and the associated formulae. You can choose more essay-like modules, particularly in your final year, but the cor modules are primarily quantitative with little essays: Economics, Maths, Stats, Finance, Econometrics. A good tip for scoring highly in LSE exams is to actually bullet point and be concise rather than try to write an essay.
Not having an essay subjects will not particularly harm an application because a well-written personal statement can accurately reflect your writing abilities. Not having any quantitative subjects, on the other hand, will make it very difficult to get an offer. Good luck!
@@the_profsHi there! I’m thinking of switching from alevel economics to politics but I would like to do something economics related at a top uni such as LSE. Do you know anyone who has been accepted into LSE economics or related without econ alevel as I also do maths , fm and physics.
Very helpful vdo about this topic.
Good Morning Richard, I am currently in year 10 and I am planning to go to LSE to study economics/economics and mathematics. I will do work experience at BGC Brokers in the summer and my predicted GCSE grades are 10 9's (Including Mathematics) and 1 Grade 8. I also volunteer teaching primary school children maths and have been enrolled in a STEM Maths course at my school where I learn A-Level maths. I will take Maths, FM, Economics and Computer Science for my A - Levels. Is there anything I can do early on to strengthen my chances of getting into LSE? Thanks!
Hello - it sounds like you are in excellent position and the fact that you are researching your personal statement over a year in advance, will give you a large informational advantage over the competition. I recommend attending an open day (it can be online) as this can give you further insight into the courses offered. Good luck!
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Thank you for sharing such an amazing video with us
Sir please tell PhD requirements for economics in LSE or make a video.... Thankyou
These can be found on LSE's website: www.lse.ac.uk/statistics/prospective-students/phd-mphil/phd-application-process#:~:text=All%20applicants%20should%20have%20completed,is%20not%20their%20first%20language.
Very helpful video. I will surely apply these tips
Thanks.
Thank you for sharing these tips, they are very useful, I learned a lot.
Hi Richard,
I am currently a first year Economics student and KCL. Now that i am going through with my Economics degree, i realised that i enjoy Maths more than I thought and that I would like to reapply theough UCAS for Economics and Mathematics at LSE. I have A*s in Economics, Mathematics, Further Mathematics and Greek. Regarding my personal statement, do you think it is worth mentioning both my time doing A levels at school and studying at Kings? Also will it be too late to apply in mid January or are application reviewed on a non-rolling basis?
Hello - it would be prudent to get the application in sooner rather than later as the majority of undergraduate applications will now have been submitted for 2024 entry. LSE typically makes offers in February-March so it is likely that they will still review your application. It is difficult to know at this stage in the cycle whether LSE would make an offer: on the one hand, your grades are way above the entry requirements and you have experience at KCL, on the other hand, universities are a little hesitant to make offers to existing undergraduates. If you do apply, it would help to be able to demonstrate evidence of top grades early in your KCL degree (problem sets or mid terms, if you have any). I think it is worth applying - and it would be of interest to us if you share the result of your application here.
We also recommend looking at courses at KCL, as they might let you transfer onto another course of theirs without having to restart your degree. Good luck!
Hey, do you think its worth mentioning my current course at KCL and why i want to switch courses taking into account that Economics and Econ and Maths are very similar degrees
This video is very informative.
Thank you for sharing this video with us.
Nice video like this video very much Thanks so much for these interesting information about getting into LSE for economics . It really helped us so much. Very good content.
Very helpful video. i learned a lot .thanks for your sharing ❤
Thank you for the informative video. I am currently in the process of collecting all the documents to start my application to MS in Economics at LSE as an international student. Since the application to LSE is on a rolling basis, I wanted to know what would be a good time to apply. I am planning to apply before the end of November? Do you think it would be early enough to apply? Or should I apply earlier than that?
You have plenty of time. We always recommend applying for MSc courses before mid March (although we do support a small number of strong applicants each year after this date). Applying before the new year is fine and there is some strategy to avoiding applying very early (Sept and early October) as you will be competing with the stronger applicants on average. November - Feb is a great time to apply as this is in the middle of the cycle.
Remember, it is always worth waiting an extra week if you can get a better draft, a higher GMAT, or a better reference, work experience or mathematical grade to boost your application's strength. Many rush their applications in and submit something suboptimal.
Good luck!
This video is useful and informative, lots of details here on the subject.
Yeah, go to LSE!
Notice that the economics profession cannot tell the world the annual depreciation of automobiles for any country since Sputnik.
Look at the NDP equation. It is middle school algebra, only having the depreciation of Capital Goods but not the depreciation of Durable Consumer Goods.
This video is really nice amazing... Thank you for sharing this video with us
hello, for the career choice aspect, if I am looking at a policy-making/government career, should I still be applying to economics, or should I apply to other courses like public policy with economics or just public policy? thank you
Hi! Surprisingly, your university course choice will have little impact on your chosen career as there are very many routes into policy-making/government. That said, if you enjoy economics, then you having a quantitative degree will always be good in the job market. Look at the different courses, read the brochures, and if you can go on a campus tour, then that is great too. The better you can demonstrate that you have researched your 1st choice option, the more your application will stand out from the crowd. Good luck!
Hi Richard, would you recommend taking a gap year to reapply with achieved grades? Stellar video btw
We're a big fan of productive gap years - they allow students to get work experience, retake and low grades, take additional courses and readings and be a much stronger candidate overall. You also get 5x longer to prepare your personal statement.
Thanks for sharing this useful information. I learned a lot..very informative for me and others also
So should we dedicate a small paragraph in our PS to our career plan? Otherwise, through what other ways are we able to convey our plans for the future?
Yes just one or two lines can be enough. Typically the career is introduced in the concluding paragraph as you look to the future and what you will do with/beyond your degree. However, some candidates introduce their career plan early on in the statement. This second approach is especially common for clearly-defined career paths such as medicine, law and other specialised qualifications such as actuary and some finance career paths. In these sorts of fields you might be at a disadvantage if you do not demonstrate some career/subject knowledge of the path ahead. E.g. if a doctor does not make clear that they know how may years they will be in training, and the key milestones along the way, AND indicate which specialism(s) might be of most interest to them, then another candidate who demonstrates this knowledge will likely seem better informed and possibly more serious about their future. As always, it's the SPECIFICS and details that strengthen a statement. Good luck!
i just started year 12, I do Maths Chemistry and Biology. My school does not offer further maths. Is this still a competitive combination? Also, my school doesn't offer further Maths but they offered me the resources to teach myself further Maths. do you think this will boost my chances of being accepted? not going to school that teaches further maths but teaching myself anyway or do you think its not worth the hassle of teaching myself.
Hi Dan - GREAT question. We're asked Richard and yes - that is a competitive subject combination. As your school does not offer further maths, you would not be penalised by LSE for this. However, we advise that your application explicitly tells LSE that further maths is not offered - this is best added to your school's reference so we advise that you identify your referee and ask them to state that further maths is not offer. If they can be persuaded to evidence your maths ability and desire to go beyond the syllabus, this would help your chances of success. If your referee cannot (or will not) mention that your school does not offer further maths, then you should mention it in your own personal statement. You certainly want to mention that you are using resources to teach your further maths (and name some of these resources) as this demonstrates your passion for maths and will, most importantly, help you to not be at a disadvantage when you (hopefully) get an offer. The better you can demonstrate that you have self-taught further maths, the stronger your statement will be. Good luck and thanks for asking!
Do you do personal statement reviews for Economics and Philosophy?
Thanks for the video- very informative
Yes we have a premium service - please contact the office for more details using the information in the video's description
I go to a private school and was offered further maths, but stupidly didn’t pick it. Would that put me at a disadvantage?
Hi Richard, idk if you'll see this but I am almost done with year 12 and I only decided that i want to become an IB and do Economics and Finance a few months ago. I'm currently taking A Level maths, biology, chemistry and economics and i really regret not picking further maths. Do you think thatvit is worth trying to learn some further maths or is it too late?
Yes your application will not be due until January (or October if you are applying for Oxbridge). That is plenty of time over the summer to self learn some further maths that you can reference in your personal statement. It will look good in your application that you are going above and beyond the syllabus to learn more maths.
Hi
Richard i m doing my Bachelors in business adminsitration and i dont know how to get admission in Masters in HRM and i always heard that its expensive and u never get the admission but its my dream to get in
I dont Know what to do😢
And also, can you sir name some books of maths which will help me to make my maths strong and boost my concepts and meet the standards of LSE maths for Msc and phd course in Economics?
Hi! Here is a list from LSE: lse.rl.talis.com/departments/ss.html
@@the_profs Thank you so much sir for helping
Hi, I am a year 12 student studying Maths, Further Maths, Physics and Chemistry. What key things should I do to show my interest in Economics having not taken it at A level? In addition, if you could provide a link to a model personal statement that would be much appreciated. Thanks
The most common ways to demonstrate interest in economics are: reading a couple of economics books and analysing them; taking an additional course online in economic theories, or relevant work experience. Please sign up using the link in the description in your would like the exemplar statement. Good luck!
Considering Alevel subject combinations I have taken maths, physics and computer science and my college does offer further maths but it is too late to change. Considering this subject combination compared to others that include maths and further maths, is this still a competitive combination for LSE Econ? I can’t find any clear answers online.
Yes it is a competitive subject combination. We would recommend that your referee mentions that your school does not offer further maths in their reference, or else you can include it in your own personal statement.
Hey there! I am doing physics, maths , fm and politics. Can I still have a competitive for economics at LSE ?
Yes that is a great set. A top tip is to self-study some economics theory and discuss this briefly in your statement to demonstrate interest in the submit beyond your school subjects.
Hi! Year 12 student studying biology, chemistry, maths. Further maths and economics offered at my school but I didn’t pick them. Is it still possible to get into economics at LSE? ❤
Hi! Yes it is still possible. Whilst optimal to have Further Maths and Economics, neither are requirements for LSE Economics - only Maths is essential. we have helped many students to secure offers with neither subject, however it is important to realise that if LSE knows your school offers Further Maths, you might want to self study some of the relevant topics to show that you are interested in a highly-quantitative university course. As long as you push for the highest grades possible and an A* in Maths will will be competitive. Check out our exemplar personal statement to help you to prepare the best statement you can! Good luck!
Hi richard, i did my 12th this year....with better marks in math along chemistry and bio...but now i m doing learing coding languagees but i hav alwasys a dream to get into lse for economics
...but pls suggest me am i in a right lane of not...?
Hi! I am currently in grade 11 in india and my subjects are english , accountancy, economics, psychology and applied maths (i do not have the option for core maths). I am a very academically strong student, but is this subject combination a drawback? If so which other subjects must i opt for? Also, should i give TMUA?
Hi! As maths is a requirement for the course, it is important that your reference explains that maths was not available to you, and we would recommend TMUA to demonstrate that you can do maths, or else find a way to study core maths and complete the qualification. Good luck!
Hello Richard, I am European baccalaureate student from Luxembourg and it would be an absolute dream of mine to get into LSE economics at undergraduate level. However, even though my school offers an economics course as well as maths 5 periods and maths 8 periods per week, I did not choose these subjects as I did not know that I wanted to study economics before (I am in my last year and have to apply soon). I have 3 period maths (the minimum) and my main subjects are English, Geography and German. I also have 2 periods of history per week and chose the optional courses Sociology and ICT. Is it still possible for me to get in? (A brutally honest answer would be great), thank you!
Hi Maria - thanks for asking. I'm afraid that all LSE's undergraduate economics courses require A-level equivalent maths, which is typically 5-period maths in the European Baccalaureate (source: assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5fb7f9838fa8f559e0e5cc04/EU_Baccalaureate_guidance_for_HE.pdf). Given that you do not have other maths related subjects (e.g. physics), I do not think LSE would consider your application this year.
However, that does not mean you cannot apply to a non-economics LSE course. Alternatively, The Profs often supports students to take a gap year, and fast-track the entire maths A level in that year, whilst also allowing time to explore work experience and travel. Whilst a year can feel like a very long time to a ~18 year old. It is a very small investment in the grand scheme of life, especially if it fast tracks you to were you want to go.
Lastly, it is possible to do a less quantitative course, receive a very high grade whilst taking additional maths modules (at university or in additional to your course). and to apply for an MSc at LSE. Just make sure that you build on and can prove your maths ability by the time you apply.
Good luck! We're rooting for you!
If I want to take admission in political science, will mathematics still be a thing ?
Hi Anuja - there are multiple variations of political science courses at LSE. For example, MSc Political Science (Political Science and Political Economy) states on the LSE website that "The stream relies significantly on the use of mathematical concepts (eg statistics and game theory) and their applications to modern political science. As a result, we expect you to have either (a) previous exposure to key mathematical concepts (intermediary level or above in algebra and real analysis, some exposure to probabilities), or (b) to be willing to invest some additional time in developing those skills (for instance through the 'maths camp' offered prior to the beginning of the Autumn Term)." Please see the different political science courses available on LSE's website and which do and do not require mathematics.
Hello Richard, I am right now 15 years old and my IGCSE test is in exactly one year. I just wanted to make this clear, I have got 9 subjects in IGCSE, one of them is additional math. LSE is a highly competitive university, so what is in your opinion the lowest grades to get for my IGCSE, are we talking about five A* and the rest can all be Bs, or are we talking about going straight A, get 9 As in all 9 subjects? Because I don't think that's not impossible but a bit hard, since my school is not too good at actually teaching us things, so I have to self learn most things. Here are my subjects: French, math, add math, history, English, economics, physics, chemistry, biology. Except for math and add math, which ones do you think I should massively prioritise to get an A star in? Thank you so much! Also, I am planning to take math, further math, history and economics for my A level, does that sound good? Thank you so much!
Edit: I see most of the other comments and questions under this video is asking about A levels, so please, straight up, how important is IGCSE grades really? Thx
Hi James! For LSE, (I)GCSEs are weighted more heavily than other universities because LSE likes to see a long track record of success. As you correctly say, having the highest grades in maths is very important for LSE for their quantitative degrees (economics, finance, PPE, maths etc) and still considered important for subjects such as law, IR and government.
LSE's website asks for "A strong set of GCSE grades including the majority at A (or 7) and A* (or 8-9)
Your GCSE (or equivalent) English Language and Mathematics grades should be no lower than B (or 6).
We also consider your overall GCSE subject profile"
Realistically, you want at least half A*s (8+) and the rest As (7) to be competitive. Anything above this will of course increase your chances. You could get away with one or two Bs (6 and below), especially if they are not in core subjects (maths, sciences, english, history). This is assuming you receive predictions of the minimum A*AA for A level.
Also LSE are very likely to give some consideration to where you rank in your school - meaning that if you have the highest grades of your year, this should give you an advantage over someone with the same grades who ranks 'average' in their school year. This is why it is important that your referee knows to share your rank if you are one of the strongest students in your year.
Hopefully, that helps. It's always best to work your hardest and get the very highest grades you are capable of! Remember, GCSEs do not really test who is the smartest, but who revises the smartest and hardest! Good luck in your IGCSEs!
Hi there Richard, I have got into a new school in the past week. Now here is my issue, now I know that economics and history are two major subjects that LSE look for but they are in the same block at my school meaning they are in the same time period so I could only choose 1. So I went with Economics. Now my question is I took geography in my 3rd block, now there is a lot of writing in it so do you think I can choose it for my A level as one of the essay subjects? Also, how advantageous is taking computer science? Right now I am taking 8 subjects for IGCSE and they are: Add math( but we also learn normal math), english, physics, chemistry, geography, art ( but I want to change this to biology), Chinese ( but I am going to try to change into french), and economics. Is this good? Thank you so much for all the free advice btw :) A level game plan: Going to take Economics, math, further math, geography @@the_profs
Very nice video
Hi Richard, I just started y12 a few months ago and I take maths, physics, economics and I'm doing an EPQ related to economics. I did decent in GCSE's all 7s, 8s and one 9 ( 8 in maths). Is it possible that I could still get into LSE economics for undergraduate level without further maths?
Hi - great that you are thinking ahead! Yes, with those strong GCSEs, and especially an 8 in maths GCSE, you can be a competitive applicant. Focus on getting an A* in your maths, and we recommend that you also self-study a few Further Maths concepts during the summer holiday between y12 and y13 - this will give you a greater chance of securing the A* overall, and you can then name drop one or two concepts that you have studied, and ideally a text book or maths book to boost your personal statement. Tell your referee/maths teacher about this self study, so that they can write that they are impressed by your dedication in their reference, to give you a further boost! Lastly, if you can do even a couple of days work experience in a company that offers some insights into economics as a profession, this would really help your personal statement also. Good luck!
Pls provide a video for msc economics entry
We’re working with Richard on Master’s videos for our next set. Please let us know any other requests and we’ll try to include those in future releases.
I didn’t score good in maths in my grade 11
But had good scores apart from that year
Would it be possible for me to get into lse economics
Hi. I got a in my gcse extended math. It’s not great. My school didn’t offer add math or further math because of lack of teachers. But I will work hard for ib and try my best to get 7 in ib high level math. Will it still reduce my chances because of my gcse grade?
Whilst higher grades are always advantageous, being predicted a Higher Level 7 in IB maths will be sufficient. Please remember Richard's tip that your school reference should make clear that Further Maths was not an option to you, and also think of ways in which you can go beyond the IB syllabus and demonstrate this interest and ability in maths in your Personal Statement to LSE to maximise your changes of success. Good luck!
Hi, I am currently studying maths, law, and economics. I do not study further maths, even though this was an option. Will not doing further maths disdvantage me, and if so, is there any way around it?
Hi Liam - if you are applying for economics at LSE and could have undertaking further maths but chose not to, then this might disadvantage you. This is because the university might question why you did not select further maths. If you are applying from a well-known school (e.g. a school that sends lots of students to LSE and/or a selective grammar/private school) then it is more likely that LSE will known that further maths was an option to you. If you are applying from a school that very rarely sends students to LSE, then it is hard for LSE to know whether further maths was an option.
In order to mitigate, we suggest:
1) You will certainly need a very high A* in single maths.
2) Your referee will need to speak very highly of your maths ability and have full confidence in your ability to succeed in LSE's rigorous course.
3) You will want to show that you have gone far beyond the single maths syllabus. E.g. UK Maths Challenge Silver or Gold and taking an additional maths courses through a platform such as Coursera and mentioning this in your personal statement
4) Ideally, if possible, it is worth transferring onto further maths and working extra hard to catch up - you can then evidence this switch in your application to show your dedicate to maths, and you will be better prepared for LSE should you be accepted. You will need to learn the content of further maths - either before or during university, and it is much easier to learn it at school during classes than trying to teach yourself at university with very limited teaching time.
Good luck!
Hi Richards,
I was wondering how much of an advantage it would be for me if I take further math in GCSE and A-levels, I heard that I was very hard and at my school there will only be one lesson on further math a week so most of it will be self-studying. I would like to know if it is worth it. What do you think in your opinion is the best trio subject to study in A-levels to get into LSE? I was thinking maybe Mathematics, Economics and Business. Would like be good?
Hi - Further Maths A level would certainly help your application but you would be expected to receive an A* in it. You will need to self-study consistently and hard to achieve an A* so we would also advise that you mention that you self-studied with only one lesson in your personal statement, and ask your referee to also mention this. To receive a high grade self-studying is more impressive than those who had full-time teaching in the subject and received the same grade. Maths and Further Maths are the stronger two subjects to have for LSE Economics. I would not recommend Business as a third A level (it is OK as a fourth) as it is not well respected in the UK. Instead, and essay subject such as History, English, or a Social Science such as Economics, Philosophy/Theology/RS or Psychology would be a stronger third subject. However, you should take a subject that you can get at least an A in and this is easier if you enjoy the subject and have some ability in it already. LSE reports that the most common subjects for offer holders are "Economics; Physics; History; Chemistry; English and Government and Politics, of which Economics, History, English and Government and Politics are good indicators of writing ability" Good luck!
@@the_profs Thank you very much, never thought of replacing Business as a third, since its kind of related to Economics. Guess I will chose history then, pretty interesting subject. Thank you very much. Last question, should I take a 4th A-level? If I can take business as a 4th A-level and get A that would certainly put me ahead of other applicants also for LSE right? :)
@@TunaDominationWe have not seen that a 4th A level adds much of a strategic advantage over 3 level candidates, although I have once in passing heard an admissions officer say that between two equal candidates from a similar socio-economic background a school, the 4th A level might be a deciding factor in going ahead with one. It does however, give you a lifeline if one of your A level grades is lower than predicted, and this would otherwise fall short of your offer. Business A level is not very highly regraded by LSE to this A level in particular would not add much to the application if you are confident that you can get the grade requirements for your 3 core subjects (this is a risk if you drop a grade). Good luck!
Hi Richard
I am currently doing my olevels gce
I want to ask what subject combination
And also what subject should i chose for alevels
Hi - if your subject has required subjects (e.g. maths is a requirement for many courses) then you must take those subjects. Beyond that, take the subjects that you can get the highest grades in because you enjoy and/or are good at those subjects. Try and avoid the subjects that are not as respected: media studies, business studies, critical thinking after AS, etc.
Hello sir,sir will u give me the course outline of bs economics.i from Pakistan
Hi, I’m a A level student taking maths, economics, physics and chemistry at A levels. I’ve got predicted A stars for all these 4 subjects. My school does not offer further maths, and thus I haven’t been able to take it, do u think I can still get into lse bsc economics without further maths at a levels?
Yes absolutely! Straight A*s prediction without the ability to study further maths would make you very likely to receive an offer. Good luck!
Hi, I would really appreciate your advice on this, and if you could answer my message I would be infinitely grateful. I am an A level retaker to get A* in maths and economics next year and I am debating taking an AS further maths as I’m starting to think further maths is necessary to have a chance to get in Bsc economics at lse. Would you advice that I do? Id also like to mention I’m self studying with some external tutoring. I’m weighing up the time cost of taking this course as I could use that time instead doing courses or work experience to enrich my application!
Good question. Universities can be discouraging of retakes but it can be a good strategy if done correctly. It is worth contacting the office to discuss this further and to see if our premium mentoring services will be useful to your unique case.
We would recommend adding Further Maths AS because this shows you you are not just 'retaking' a year, but going further than last year. It would also be recommended lining up some really good work experiences that you can talk of in your personal statement to show that you will use the additional year to make yourself a much stronger applicant, and also to demonstrate your perseverance. Good luck!
Should I take a gap year and do further maths a level in order to increase my chances of getting in
We think gap years can be brilliant if you use them to find an internship and possibly to do additional courses as you suggest. As further maths is not a struct requirement, why not apply this year and see if you are happy with the offers you receive. If not, you can then consider how to make use of a productive gap year to boost your chances in the future?
Hi Richard,
I am going to a 6th form and am going to choose the subjects further maths, maths and economics. Will i be in any disadvantage if i dont pick a fouth A level? (I am thinking about picking business.) I dont really want to do a forth becuase i just want to focus on 3 a levels and get a* in all of them. I think if i get 4 a levels the presure wil be more intense and i wil not be able to keep up. So will i be in any disadvantage if i dont pick 4? And when should you start with studying for the TMUA. Cus i am in year 11 and i want to do TMUA but i dont know when to start studying to get the best grade. Will studying 1.5 year in advance be good for TMUA? Also i heard that reading books is an supercurricular and i am reading some economics books but should i also read some maths books? And how many books should i read to be at an advantage? (I have only read about 2 books on economics but want to read more).
Thank you :) :)
Hi Hiraku - doing 3 A levels will not put you at a disadvantage, and if you are able to focus on them to achieve higher grades in those 3, then you are more likely to receive an offer.
Having 4 A levels, however, can give you a back up if you drop a great, but it's a big step up doing a 4th A level.
If you are a private school in the UK, there is a suggestion that 4 A levels is expected, but this is not confirmed. The more time you have to work on the TMUA, the better. You will want at least 6 months to prepare.
Can you plz make a video about Masters in economics from Lse?
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Hello Sir, thank you for sharing a very informative video. I am 24yrs old. I have secured 10CGPA in 10th grade and 97% in year 12 (prime subjects were mathematics, economics & commerce). I have completed my CA articleship from PwC and I am yet to clear my CA final examination. I have also completed bachelor’s degree in commerce with 65% from a recognised university in India. There has been a gap of 3 years in my academic history. I am interested in MA economics. Could you please tell me if I am at a disadvantage?
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Hey there . I currently studying A levels (AS level) and my subject combination are Business , Maths , Economics , Information Technology and English . Is this a competitive subject combination for applying in LSE to pursue BSc Economics ? What would you suggest me with the subject combination, I’m really confused . If I score good grades in my A levels board examination and have a strong personal statement , will I be considered as one of the strongest competitors to get into LSE with the given subject combination mentioned above . ( please answer brutally honest)
Hi - that is a good subject combination. Maths will be the most important grade and must be an A* to be considered by LSE. If you school offers Further Maths, and you can score an A* in this, that would strength your application and could replace IT, or English (it is however good to have an essay subject). You will need to receive high grades of at least A*AA and to be one of the strong candidates you should aim for more A*s and also relevant work experience. Good luck!
Hi Richard, im currently in year 12 and Im doing my AS levels predicted AAAB (Hoping on A*AA in year 13 figers crossed if i get high As) but i have a problem i got a level 7 in maths at a gcse level and a u in additional maths igcse ( due to a lack of preparation by my school) should i even bother with applying?
and im an international student would they be more harsh on me since I've had no issues in my learning except additional maths
the a levels im taking are maths, physics, cs, economics and I'm dropping cs as i hate it (my school doesn't offer further maths)
Thank youuuuuuuu 😀
Hi Modo - thanks for your question. A*AA will help a lot over AAAB (fingers crossed for you). If you have a level 7 in Maths GCSE, we would recommend that you ask your school not to report the U in additional maths iGCSE. It is extremely rare for someone to take both a GCSE and an iGCSE in the same subject. We would argue that the level 7 in maths GCSE is representative of your true ability and the iGCSE was an optional extra that does not need to be disclosed. If the school, or you, feel that you must disclose the U, then it is important that your referee address this briefly and explains that the GCSE lvl7 and not the iGCSE is an accurate representation of your ability. Strategically, you would be better off not disclosing your iGCSE.
Similarly, we would recommend that you apply with predicted A*AA in year 13, and do not mention the B prediction in your AAAB. Counter-intuitively, AAA is stronger than AAAB because it is a higher average, even though an additional AS level is a lot more work.
You should not be put off from applying due to your iGCSE.
LSE would not be more or less harsh on you applying as an international student. 70% of LSE students are international students.
Hi sir! I hope you see this message one day. I really need your reply on this sir, and thank you for replying to my previous message. Sir I was a very average student all my school life. And I was not really good at maths but my maths result was very good in 10th class and was bad in 12th. I am really working hard for math. I am clearing all my concepts and trying to be good at it and I saw outstanding results and many more to achieve. Sir people like me who were not good enough but now they are, should not they get a chance. Is there any system at LSE like you can crack a math aptitude or something for studying a msc or phd course rather than depending on your school results? What about them who really dream about studying at LSE but were not good enough at math in school but now they are strong at math? please reply sir!
Hi! It is usually less competitive at Masters’ and PhD level to get into LSE and your school results matter less than your university grades and work experience as you apply for the more advanced courses. So even if you do not have the grades for an undergraduate, you can strategise a 5-year plan to get strong university grades and work experiences to give you best shot at an MSc. There are also additional tests such as TMUS (undergraduate) and GMAT (postgraduate) which are specifically to allow students to demonstrate their abilities outside of school grades. Good luck!
@@the_profs Thank you so much sir!
Nice content
Hello may I have some help please with my application. I study biology chemistry maths and predicted a*a*a (a in biology) I received a 8 in gcse maths however I was put into set 2 so I never did gcse further maths, as I never did this I never even thought of taking a level further maths. Also initially I wanted to do dentistry explaining my alevels. I really want to get into lse for economics, I’ve read lots of books and and my dad is a self employed successful accountant so I have done lots of work experience. I even received a rental property for me to mange, However I have not done a level further maths and it is stressing me out so much, can you please help me on what work experience and and further things I need to do to be able to get into use. I only decided I wanted to do economics in April so I only have one summer school and no internships. My postcode is in the underprivileged section aswell. I am willing to do anything so could I have your assistance on what step I should take next.
Hello Sam! Sounds like you are in a strong position so please do not be too stressed. If you school did not offer further maths, then it is not expected. If you school did offer further maths, then it is likely worth self-learning some more advanced concepts and discussing these in your personal statement, and also making your referee aware of this additional extracurricular work.
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Good luck!
Hi Richard, I'm currently in grade 10 (year 11) and I did not choose additional math in IGCSE and instead chose extended math (easier math) I get really good grades and score the highest most of the time ,,, So should I take further mathematics in A level? but I'm pretty sure it is going to be difficult for me. What do you suggest, normal math or further math?
Also do you think that english is important for LSE econ?
Hi! If you have the option, take Further Maths. LSE may mark you down for not choosing further maths when it is available at your school, especially if other candidates from your school apply with further maths, and so the admissions officer may be aware of your choice.
It may be more work now, but LSE Economics will expect you to know the more advanced concepts, so you might as well start learning the advanced concepts now, rather than in your first year of university, when you will be taking other, more challenging courses. Secondly, it is much easier to learn these concepts at school with a teacher, than self-study at university where you will not have lessons.
Lastly, if you are not able to score highly in Further Maths, then you would unlikely succeed in LSE Economics as it is an extremely mathematical course. In which case you may wish to apply to a joint-degree that combines economics with another subject.
English as an academic subject is a fine A level and will not harm your application chances. It is good to have one written subject such as English Literature or History, although not necessary.
@@the_profs Thanks for your reply! I talked to a few other people from LSE and they said the same thing.. So, I'm studying Further maths separately right now so that I can take it in A levels,,, Thanks!!!
@@espanol3403 Good luck! If LSE sees that education-positive attitude, they might well make you an offer!
@@the_profs Thank you so much for your help!!
Very nice
What do you mean by A*A in furthermaths?
A* in single maths (some schools make their pupils sit all single maths modules in year 12 so that they can evidence an A* before their university application). Some of these students score less well in Year 13 further maths modules and so score an A overall. This is refereed to as A*A (A*s in single maths and A in further maths).
Can u help me apply for lse?
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I am from Pakistan 🇵🇰. Undergraduate student Study international relations. As there is any opportunities on the behalf of scholarship to study there in LSE
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Hi Richard
I am currently studying in grade 11 (India) with English, Math, Chemistry, Physics and Economics. Although I have been great (and gotten amazing grades) at math throughout my school life, my 10th grade marks are only 87/100 (overall in science, social studies, hindi, english, math - 93.8%). I am very interested in the undergraduate Economics course offered by LSE. I checked their website and it says that taking the TMUA is helpful for degrees offered by the Department of Mathematics. I wanted to ask if taking the TMUA would help my application or if I should focus on improving my work experience and taking courses rather than TMUA.
Thank you :)
I'm also interested to pursuing my undergraduate degree at LSE. I am looking at those students who were prepared for that ! Therefore can we communicate each other ?
Hi Vashvi. Yes, any further evidence of quantitative ability an/or going above and beyond what your school requires will increase your chances of success. It is not necessary if you can show very strong grades in maths (A* equivalent) but it will allows help you to stand out going above and beyond. Obtaining a high grade in an external course such as the Test of Mathematics for University Admission (TMUA) will demonstrate your interest and ability in maths, and is something worth devoting addition to in your personal statement - and also asking your referee to mention. LSE strongly favour students with a long track record of mathematics, and so anything extra-curricular that do, will help your chances.
In order to get into the most competitive courses, you should do everything you can. Focus on both the TMUA and securing a good work experience - other top candidates will be doing the same to earn their place.
What is fee for MS.
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