Watercolor, Seaside, Alys Beach, are definitely high dollar enclaves, but within a Mile or 2 are much more affordable beach locales. Truth is vacationers are expecting to see jacked up prices. Making money from tourism & visitors is modus operandi.
Very few beaches in Ca. are private because of the Ca. Coastal Commission passed in the 1970's...One very smart thing Ca. did. It made it almost impossible to build on a Ca. Beach. That's why Ca. beaches remain so unspoiled. No high rises or hotels on our beaches. Thank God!!!...Malibu has private beach mansions, but the beaches are still public...I can't wait to see your Fla. west coast videos. Good job Michael.
Very few are private here as well, this was one of only a few that I have seen all around FL. But that is a good thing about California for sure! Glad you enjoyed Dan!
Oddly enough, despite CA's huge population, I never found beaches overrun in the 13 years I was there, except for the boardwalk on Mission Beach in SD, or Sundays at Venice Beach. I would go to beaches near Malibu, and they were nice - without crowds. NorCal beaches are too cold - which keeps the crowds down, but Baker Beach by the GG Bridge, is a beautiful beach with a great view, but frigid water.
@@toddlempe1454 Part of it is the sand (especially the white sugar sand on the Gulf), part is the color of the water, and the other is the maintenance of the beaches - which are constantly groomed in FL, but often kelp-laden in CA. The cliffs in CA and the better surf are the plusses of CA, along with year-round delightful Temps, but you do have to rate FL beaches the best I the USA (and HI deserves consideration as well).
I stayed at a resort in Destin, but not right on the beach, so was reasonable. I was there in November 1996, and it was 80 on the Saturday in Tallahassee at the UF-FSU football game, but by Sunday night it was in the upper 30s with snow flurries, so I think winter is iffy. I love the white sugar-sand beaches of the Panhandle and the entire Gulf Coast! Keep in mind this part of FL is CDT, while nearby Tallahassee is still EDT.
Oh wow that is a huge temperature shift! I am going to keep a close eye on winter temps in this area this year to see if its a place I would consider living. I really ove the beaches over there too! And yes the time zone thing can be weird in this spot😄
@@MichaelBordenaro I have friends that go to the Panhandle every January & February, and they think it is pretty comfortable - most days in the 60s or higher, not a lot of rain, and even if the nights are cooler, it beats winter in Michigan. They said they have experienced some snow flurries in the evening, but nothing sticks, and they can always enjoy bike rides and walks by day, and they appreciate that it is not as overrun by tourists as places further south in FL, and they get a rental at a much better price than in Clearwater Beach or places where the temp is more dependably warm. They just want to escape those 2 horrible months in Michigan! Me? I think I prefer a bit more warmth, but I understand their rationale. Having lived in the Carolinas, it seems the Panhandle is very similar - though I have never been in Destin in Jan or Feb myself.
Yeah you definitely have a good feel for real estate trends in general. This is a family oriented area, certainly not Miami. The beach access has to do with keeping out all these tourist freaks.... It's crowded now because kids are going back to school soon. People are not going to drive another 10 additional hours down to Miami when they can have better water and less crime here.
One lesson that should be taken from Seaside is that communities like it are so highly demanded that there's an insane craze to get into it that ruins everything. The demand for truly community oriented cities that are walkable are so horribly underserved due to the difficulties of building one thanks to regulation that they get destroyed by sky high land values and turned into tourist destinations and playgrounds for the rich.
@@MichaelBordenaro I think that groups like Strong Towns are the answer. We have to legalize places like this by changing the regulations such that they can actually be built.
@@ethakisI love quaint walkable towns like Seaside. Duany Plater Zyberk are geniuses. Im interested in how we can see more new urban towns be developed vs. the cookie cutter developments of DR Horton, Ryan Homes, etc. How do you start with legalizing building regulations for example, and make being able to build homes close to the street or make streets out of brick? I hear its a fight with the city to get them to let a developer do this.
I’m going to be moving to Pensacola or surrounding areas, have to check it out. But I like the sound of cooler weather in the panhandle sounds refreshing after the summer heat. Greetings from Arizona 🌵
Great choice! Although it does still get hot here like the rest of FL in the summer, just keep that in mind. But summers seems to be shorter than in south FL
@@jdhjimbo My husband used to live in Pensacola a long time ago. We are going but we wanted to see what it looks like now. I was hoping Michael would be driving through so we could get a look.
@@palmsofdestin1 Atlanta residents, in particular, really flock to the Destin area - which is how I first came to discover it, when I lived in Atlanta in 1994-95. They raved about it, so I checked it out.
So glad you got to visit Seaside! My sister and her family were just there for a week about three weeks ago. Gorgeous, mellow area! Ft. Walton is definitely a good choice for affordability and nice beaches! I’ll be curious to hear what you think of Pensacola, when you are able to make it there at some point. Great video, as always!
This town is sooooo cute! I loved it! The buildings were so beautiful! Maybe you could go back when it's a little more active to see if it's more of what you like. I think it looks amazing! It would be nice if there was at least a couple other beach entrances... I'm sure if you live there you're be bound to get to know people in all the different neighborhoods. If the people are as friendly as they seem I'm sure they'd let you through some of their private entrances to the beach. Man Michael I was set on Miami but you're showing me some amazing places! What's a girl to do?! lol
This place is quite a bit different than most other places I’ve been to in Florida. If you can afford it and you liked this small-town atmosphere is definitely a nice pick
Yeah, the weather channel has been talking about the dust blowing in from Africa. Haze for FL and the TX Gulf coast. The dust keeps the hurricane action down a bit before it ramps up in Aug and Sept.
@@Gary65437 You have to go to AZ to see one of their dust storms. Sometimes, it is so bad that you cannot even drive in it. The Midwest gets smoke layers from the fires out west at times, which give a real eerie feel to things! Of course for years, LA was a smog bin, but things are much better than they were in the 1960s and 1970s. Pittsburgh and Gary, IN used to have horrible steel mill residue in the area, but Pittsburgh is MUCH improved (one of the nicest industrial cities) and the steel mills in Gary have closed (though the city is still a dump. The 1 hour drive (east of Chicago into the city) is the ugliest 1-hour drive in America, and just clogged with traffic besides!
@@jdhjimbo Thanks for the update on state conditions. I'll skip Gary IN, I was in Roswell NM for a yr in 2003 to see a dust storm and plenty of crime in the way of thieves. I could not stand the heat of AZ, not even sure about hot humid FL especially with super high prices and overcrowding these days.
@@Gary65437 The AZ heat is really tough from mid-May til mid-October. I had several rentals on the east side of PHX, and Enjoyed the other 7 months, but really too brown for me - as I prefer green. Florida is tough June thru September, but if you are on the coast, you do get breezes. Prices havexreal.y escalated, as that was always one of the beauties of Florida - that real estate was steady and competitive. That has gone out the window now. Yes, you can skip Gary - one of the 5 worst places in USA. As for New Mexico, I like Sanra Fe and Taos, and ABQ is OK, but a whole lotta nothing the rest of the state. I remember the drive to Carlsbad Caverns, and getting stopped by a trooper for speeding. He just gave me a warning, and said "this road is straight as a string and not much to see, but I need to ease up". I had no A/C in the car and it was a 90-degree day, so that was part of the rush. However, the constant 59 of the Caverns was a welcome relief!
@@MichaelBordenaro South Florida is largely populated by former residents of the Northeast, Clearwater area has tons of refugees from the Midwest, while Destin has picked up residents from nearby southern states - AL, MS, GA, TN and the Carolinas - which probably explains the vibe difference. Destin does not offer any real cultural opportunities (you would have to drive to Tallahassee), like Miami, FLL, the Palm Beaches, or greater Tampa. I like Destin, but I think I would tire of it on a long-term basis. I need variety and culture - not just a nice beach, but I know others have different priorities.
Hi Michael 🥰 thank you so much, I’m definitely learning a lot with you. It’s very interesting and you were absolutely right about sea side it does look like European in certain areas. If you can, can you talk about the job rates(money)and what’s more popular when it comes to occupations. Thank you 😃
That is nice to hear Valerie! I usually don't talk much about jobs in general since I haven't had one myself in about 12 years lol. So Im probably not the best person to speak about that topic
@@MichaelBordenaro I know we are looking for the right one here, many homes in the Punta Gorda Isles are on canals with boat docks are affordable and have original terrazzo floors ! If you are looking for an investment property for yourself you might find it here too.
I didn't find the water any clearer than Miami. In fact it was a pretty rough day when I was out there and it wasn't clear at all. Its the same thing here. Calm days = clear water.
I think Seaside is just sad. It was originally designed to be a real town to live in, a place where everyone knew each other, the porches were designed for conversations with people walking by. Bob Davis never imagined it to be a tourist destination. Now most of the original residents have either died , moved on, or are now renting their homes for vacation rentals. Originally each beach access was for the several blocks area of residents where the homes were built so everyone had a view of some sort from their home somewhere. It used to be a real town where businesses were owned by couples/families/persons who lived there, who did not pay millions for their property. The concept was it was supposed to be an idyllic seaside COMMUNITY, there were some units designed for vacation rentals, but that was not supposed to be the main thrust of the town, Yea it was a Trumanesque vision of a planned community, but greed and money fixed that.
While it's true that the houses didn't cost millions, they were still expensive for the time. The owners rented them out from the beginning because most bought them as a vacation property. Very few lived there year-round.
Whether it feels like a theme park or a Americana escape for the Upper Class, it’s still a delightful lovely area. I’ve known about the place for decades, but had my first (vacay) experience here in October 2022. There’s nothing “sad” about the place; in fact, it felt like one of the sweetest, happiest places I’ve ever been & I’ve traveled extensively btw. What happens (happened) in Seaside is what happens everywhere: the town or area changed over time for a variety of reasons, and those who knew it “back in the day” understandably lament the change/changes. This is virtually unavoidable. It seems to affect the old-timers’ attitude about the place, but have little to no effect on the feeling received by new visitors or residents.
Seaside was never super expensive in the 1990s, when I first visited. Dr Beach had rated Graybar Beach there as first or 2nd best beach in the USA. The lack of cars in the heart of town is a real draw - feels like a real community!
That is interesting, I guess whoever bought there got rich by default then once prices when up! I did like being able to walk through town easily and just leave the car parked too 👌
@@MichaelBordenaro And I found the public beach access because a couple eating at the same outdoor Cafe, told me, or I would have been lost as well. You cannot blame the residents for wanting to keep some of that lovely beach for themselves. At least, they do not charge to use the beach like they do in New Jersey!
@@palmsofdestin1 Yes, Grayton Beach is the one by Seaside, where Graybar is in Daytona area. My first job application was at a Graybar Electric Co, so probably why it is wedged in my senior mind! However, it was the Seaside beach that got Dr Beach's kudos.
The architecture reminds me of what I have seen of Mississippi and Louisiana on TV. The balconies. I suspected it would be an older demographic there and also a slower pace. It does not look it, but I imagine most of the people there are retired or those that moved there because they were rich enough and wanted the slower pace and less crime etc.. Like you said, it is mostly families vacationing. Miami is a younger city and full of active life style, skewed towards the younger international party crowd. There are relatively younger families in the Miami area. Tamps I imagine is getting younger and becoming like other urban areas with more of the issues that come with that. The rest of Florida I'm gathering from your trip around Florida is proving the rest of Florida to be slower paced, but not dead, Depending on the season. I'm going to retire in several years ,but I want activity. I'm only near 60. I'm pretty active and fairly fit. Looks like a place rich in history and worth a visit. Beach looks pretty.
No it actually has no history lol. It's all recently created. It's not really that many old people, that only happens during the winter with the snowbirds.
@@palmsofdestin1 Thank you for the input, I sincerely appreciate it. I understand your meaning of history in Seaside. I'm not from the south, so I knew nothing of Seaside before this video. I like to learn the history of places I may travel to or have traveled to. Seaside may not have history dating back to the early 1900's, but the 1940's when the land was originally purchased is significant enough for me. Though I have learned it did not truly didn't get started until the 1980's. Thank you I learned a lot because of this little chat.
There is no real economic driver there beyond tourism, but with online businesses and remote working, it can be available to a larger demographic. It is always better to live in an area with a wider demographic - as opposed to retirees only, or lots of 20-somethings. Balance is better. Of course, retirees are not the same as retirees from 50 years ago. Today's retirees are active - not playing shuffleboard by the pool all day!
The panhandle beaches are dead after October until spring break. Its not worth driving down from Atlanta to gain a couple of degrees in winter. There is a. Beautiful state park next to Seaside with plenty of natural wonder. I haven’t been to anywhere in Florida that i like less than Seaside. It seems cramped and contrived. Plenty of people must like it to command those prices but it is not my cup of tea at all.
I hear you, that is my main issue with possibly living in the panhandle, not much warmer than Georgia in the winter. Its not my cup of tea to live here either, but it was nice to visit for the afternoon
Hawaii is indeed a paradise, but island living is not for everyone, and an extremely pricey state for everything - but an ideal climate and breath-takingly beautiful!
THE BEACH IS NOT FOR RESIDENTS. DO YOUR RESEARCH. THERE ARE 17 PUBLIC BEACH ACCESS LOCATIONS WITHIN 1 MILE OF THE CENTER OF SEASIDE. VAN NESS...ACCESS IS TWO BLOCK WEST OF THE AIRSTREAM FOOD TRAILERS.
My 2 cents. Too expensive. I'm in that boat as well. Florida in general is expensive. Choice of where I would visit. Safety. Would I feel safe with my family in Miami or Northern Florida? There is your answer. Matter of fact. I used to like traveling in north Florida for vacation. But in the last 20 years. South Florida is migrating north. Love the psalm trees. Love the ocean. But dysfunctional people. I can do without. I will go where they arent.
Warm places tend to attract the dysfunctional types. CA has always been full of weirdos, and now FL is getting that reputation, but they are still a small part of the 25 million+ that live there. IA, Nebraska, KS and the Dakotas are free of them, but not a lot of warmth or scenery or culture in those states.
Very expensive! Everything from donuts to dinner is outrageously overpriced. Crowded and not laid back. Drive through and look around, but don't waist to much time. Years ago it was a cool little spot, but no more.
@@MichaelBordenaro until fairly recently there really hasn't been a good way to fly in there. So everybody just drives. Although people are coming from farther and farther away now
I just got approved today for a Townhouse in Santa Rosa beach -rent for a 3/2 is 2750$ FYI Good to know the public entrance to seaside beach is west (closer to me!) - ty for that! I’ve never been to the panhandle-but grew up in ft lauderdale. It was here or Cali and this just looks waaaaaaaaay more relaxing - and cheap- and safer tbh Can’t wait to start exploring!
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Watercolor, Seaside, Alys Beach, are definitely high dollar enclaves, but within a Mile or 2 are much more affordable beach locales. Truth is vacationers are expecting to see jacked up prices. Making money from tourism & visitors is modus operandi.
Seaside is our next girlfriends trip. So Thank You. Charming Beach Flavour.
Nice, enjoy!
Very few beaches in Ca. are private because of the Ca. Coastal Commission passed in the 1970's...One very smart thing Ca. did. It made it almost impossible to build on a Ca. Beach.
That's why Ca. beaches remain so unspoiled. No high rises or hotels on our beaches. Thank God!!!...Malibu has private beach mansions, but the beaches are still public...I can't wait to see your Fla. west coast videos. Good job Michael.
Very few are private here as well, this was one of only a few that I have seen all around FL. But that is a good thing about California for sure! Glad you enjoyed Dan!
Oddly enough, despite CA's huge population, I never found beaches overrun in the 13 years I was there, except for the boardwalk on Mission Beach in SD, or Sundays at Venice Beach. I would go to beaches near Malibu, and they were nice - without crowds. NorCal beaches are too cold - which keeps the crowds down, but Baker Beach by the GG Bridge, is a beautiful beach with a great view, but frigid water.
I've experienced, surfed, lived on many CA beaches... although beautiful, I think FL beaches are absolutely stunnning.
@@toddlempe1454 Part of it is the sand (especially the white sugar sand on the Gulf), part is the color of the water, and the other is the maintenance of the beaches - which are constantly groomed in FL, but often kelp-laden in CA. The cliffs in CA and the better surf are the plusses of CA, along with year-round delightful Temps, but you do have to rate FL beaches the best I the USA (and HI deserves consideration as well).
@@toddlempe1454 I don't like the highrises on many Fla. beaches.
Very beautiful & charming... Looks likes a TV set!!!
That's because it was
The winter here in Sta Rosa Beach is amazing! And no crowds.
It sure is!
Wow, it seems so homey. Love it.
What a pretty little area.💕
I'm from Louisiana and everyone from here goes to vacation in the Florida Panhandle!
Yeah we know.....
So interesting to see all the different vibes throughout Florida!!!
I know it was interesting for me too. So many different places so many different vibes
I stayed at a resort in Destin, but not right on the beach, so was reasonable. I was there in November 1996, and it was 80 on the Saturday in Tallahassee at the UF-FSU football game, but by Sunday night it was in the upper 30s with snow flurries, so I think winter is iffy. I love the white sugar-sand beaches of the Panhandle and the entire Gulf Coast! Keep in mind this part of FL is CDT, while nearby Tallahassee is still EDT.
Oh wow that is a huge temperature shift! I am going to keep a close eye on winter temps in this area this year to see if its a place I would consider living. I really ove the beaches over there too! And yes the time zone thing can be weird in this spot😄
@@MichaelBordenaro I have friends that go to the Panhandle every January & February, and they think it is pretty comfortable - most days in the 60s or higher, not a lot of rain, and even if the nights are cooler, it beats winter in Michigan. They said they have experienced some snow flurries in the evening, but nothing sticks, and they can always enjoy bike rides and walks by day, and they appreciate that it is not as overrun by tourists as places further south in FL, and they get a rental at a much better price than in Clearwater Beach or places where the temp is more dependably warm. They just want to escape those 2 horrible months in Michigan! Me? I think I prefer a bit more warmth, but I understand their rationale. Having lived in the Carolinas, it seems the Panhandle is very similar - though I have never been in Destin in Jan or Feb myself.
Yeah you definitely have a good feel for real estate trends in general. This is a family oriented area, certainly not Miami. The beach access has to do with keeping out all these tourist freaks.... It's crowded now because kids are going back to school soon. People are not going to drive another 10 additional hours down to Miami when they can have better water and less crime here.
Loved the quiet area! Looked so peaceful but expensive !
Yes I enjoyed being there for a bit
Lol. Wait until you find out about Alys Beach
I drove through there but did not stop
@@MichaelBordenaro yeah you probably need to get off the beaten track there and check it out.
@@palmsofdestin1 too late for that, I am back in Miami
One lesson that should be taken from Seaside is that communities like it are so highly demanded that there's an insane craze to get into it that ruins everything. The demand for truly community oriented cities that are walkable are so horribly underserved due to the difficulties of building one thanks to regulation that they get destroyed by sky high land values and turned into tourist destinations and playgrounds for the rich.
Very good point. The question then is how to prevent that from happening in the future while still having new communities like this
@@MichaelBordenaro I think that groups like Strong Towns are the answer. We have to legalize places like this by changing the regulations such that they can actually be built.
@@ethakisI love quaint walkable towns like Seaside. Duany Plater Zyberk are geniuses. Im interested in how we can see more new urban towns be developed vs. the cookie cutter developments of DR Horton, Ryan Homes, etc. How do you start with legalizing building regulations for example, and make being able to build homes close to the street or make streets out of brick? I hear its a fight with the city to get them to let a developer do this.
I’m going to be moving to Pensacola or surrounding areas, have to check it out. But I like the sound of cooler weather in the panhandle sounds refreshing after the summer heat. Greetings from Arizona 🌵
Great choice! Although it does still get hot here like the rest of FL in the summer, just keep that in mind. But summers seems to be shorter than in south FL
I think Escambia County is one of the fastest growing counties in FL on a per capita basis, and Pensacola is home of the amazing Blue Angels.
@@jdhjimbo My husband used to live in Pensacola a long time ago. We are going but we wanted to see what it looks like now. I was hoping Michael would be driving through so we could get a look.
Seaside is Southern money visitors who wouldnt be caught dead in Miami lol. Enjoy your videos!
Well said.
It's all Nashville Atlanta Dallas Houston
Haha I don't doubt it😄
@@palmsofdestin1 Atlanta residents, in particular, really flock to the Destin area - which is how I first came to discover it, when I lived in Atlanta in 1994-95. They raved about it, so I checked it out.
@@jdhjimbo I think in the old days Atlanta was the biggie. Now it's spreading further out. Dallas and Houston now as well.
So glad you got to visit Seaside! My sister and her family were just there for a week about three weeks ago. Gorgeous, mellow area! Ft. Walton is definitely a good choice for affordability and nice beaches! I’ll be curious to hear what you think of Pensacola, when you are able to make it there at some point. Great video, as always!
I'm glad too! It was an interesting little spot for sure! One of these days I'll make it over the Pensacola
This town is sooooo cute! I loved it! The buildings were so beautiful! Maybe you could go back when it's a little more active to see if it's more of what you like. I think it looks amazing! It would be nice if there was at least a couple other beach entrances... I'm sure if you live there you're be bound to get to know people in all the different neighborhoods. If the people are as friendly as they seem I'm sure they'd let you through some of their private entrances to the beach. Man Michael I was set on Miami but you're showing me some amazing places! What's a girl to do?! lol
This place is quite a bit different than most other places I’ve been to in Florida. If you can afford it and you liked this small-town atmosphere is definitely a nice pick
Its OK that there are some private beaches. Unfortunately, we aren't entitled to it ALL, there are so many others that are just phenomenal!
I don't really care either, at least we were able to make it out to the beach without driving somewhere else
I believe the haziness is probably Saharan air layer
Maybe it could have been
Yeah, the weather channel has been talking about the dust blowing in from Africa. Haze for FL and the TX Gulf coast. The dust keeps the hurricane action down a bit before it ramps up in Aug and Sept.
@@Gary65437 You have to go to AZ to see one of their dust storms. Sometimes, it is so bad that you cannot even drive in it. The Midwest gets smoke layers from the fires out west at times, which give a real eerie feel to things! Of course for years, LA was a smog bin, but things are much better than they were in the 1960s and 1970s. Pittsburgh and Gary, IN used to have horrible steel mill residue in the area, but Pittsburgh is MUCH improved (one of the nicest industrial cities) and the steel mills in Gary have closed (though the city is still a dump. The 1 hour drive (east of Chicago into the city) is the ugliest 1-hour drive in America, and just clogged with traffic besides!
@@jdhjimbo Thanks for the update on state conditions. I'll skip Gary IN, I was in Roswell NM for a yr in 2003 to see a dust storm and plenty of crime in the way of thieves. I could not stand the heat of AZ, not even sure about hot humid FL especially with super high prices and overcrowding these days.
@@Gary65437 The AZ heat is really tough from mid-May til mid-October. I had several rentals on the east side of PHX, and Enjoyed the other 7 months, but really too brown for me - as I prefer green. Florida is tough June thru September, but if you are on the coast, you do get breezes. Prices havexreal.y escalated, as that was always one of the beauties of Florida - that real estate was steady and competitive. That has gone out the window now. Yes, you can skip Gary - one of the 5 worst places in USA. As for New Mexico, I like Sanra Fe and Taos, and ABQ is OK, but a whole lotta nothing the rest of the state. I remember the drive to Carlsbad Caverns, and getting stopped by a trooper for speeding. He just gave me a warning, and said "this road is straight as a string and not much to see, but I need to ease up". I had no A/C in the car and it was a 90-degree day, so that was part of the rush. However, the constant 59 of the Caverns was a welcome relief!
True paradise put up a parking lot then the parking lot became very expensive
Haha good one
yeah, you don't live on 30A $$$ maybe Mirmar. Grayton state park is public. I have not been back since the battle over public/private beach.
I don't think I would want to anyhow, but it was nice to visit
Great video! I love seaside!
Thank you, I enjoyed it too!
Yeah you figured out the beach access situation lol
I know it took a while though!
They make it difficult on purpose
Love that place. Did it feel more ‘Southern’? Looks really nice.
I would say all of the panhandle had that more southern vibe 👍
@@MichaelBordenaro South Florida is largely populated by former residents of the Northeast, Clearwater area has tons of refugees from the Midwest, while Destin has picked up residents from nearby southern states - AL, MS, GA, TN and the Carolinas - which probably explains the vibe difference. Destin does not offer any real cultural opportunities (you would have to drive to Tallahassee), like Miami, FLL, the Palm Beaches, or greater Tampa. I like Destin, but I think I would tire of it on a long-term basis. I need variety and culture - not just a nice beach, but I know others have different priorities.
@@jdhjimbo Good point, I did think about that and it makes perfect sense.
nice for a vacay... living.... a little too quiet for me!!
There are plenty of public beach accesses but they are pretty obscure
Really? The one on the west side at the edge of town was the only one I could find
Hi Michael 🥰 thank you so much, I’m definitely learning a lot with you. It’s very interesting and you were absolutely right about sea side it does look like European in certain areas. If you can, can you talk about the job rates(money)and what’s more popular when it comes to occupations. Thank you 😃
That is nice to hear Valerie! I usually don't talk much about jobs in general since I haven't had one myself in about 12 years lol. So Im probably not the best person to speak about that topic
I understand Michael, thank you 😊
There's no jobs or occupations.
Real estate developer in Perth Australia is trying to replicate Seaside in Jindee ….. and I hope it looks just as beautiful as Seaside one day !
You should check out Punta Gorda..great restaurants, downtown area is cute,galleries,lots of activities and close to beaches :)
On my next trip I will!
@@MichaelBordenaro
I know we are looking for the right one here, many homes in the Punta Gorda Isles are on canals with boat docks are affordable and have original terrazzo floors ! If you are looking for an investment property for yourself you might find it here too.
We waited too long on the one we really wanted:( look in Charlotte Park Neighborhood seawall maintenance included in property taxes
@@cmt635 Thanks for letting me know. I haven't looked too much into that area yet
The water itself is on a totally different level than in Miami. So so clear. And the sand is finer and whiter being 99% pure quartz.
I didn't find the water any clearer than Miami. In fact it was a pretty rough day when I was out there and it wasn't clear at all. Its the same thing here. Calm days = clear water.
@@MichaelBordenaro Try a calm day!
Nice capris mickael
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7/17/21...Kind of reminds me of Savannah....peaceful
A better beach than Tybee, but yes, the same Savannah southern vibe.
I think Seaside is just sad. It was originally designed to be a real town to live in, a place where everyone knew each other, the porches were designed for conversations with people walking by. Bob Davis never imagined it to be a tourist destination. Now most of the original residents have either died , moved on, or are now renting their homes for vacation rentals. Originally each beach access was for the several blocks area of residents where the homes were built so everyone had a view of some sort from their home somewhere. It used to be a real town where businesses were owned by couples/families/persons who lived there, who did not pay millions for their property. The concept was it was supposed to be an idyllic seaside COMMUNITY, there were some units designed for vacation rentals, but that was not supposed to be the main thrust of the town, Yea it was a Trumanesque vision of a planned community, but greed and money fixed that.
That is a sad story😔
While it's true that the houses didn't cost millions, they were still expensive for the time. The owners rented them out from the beginning because most bought them as a vacation property. Very few lived there year-round.
It definitely feels more like a theme park than it used to 😕
Whether it feels like a theme park or a Americana escape for the Upper Class, it’s still a delightful lovely area. I’ve known about the place for decades, but had my first (vacay) experience here in October 2022. There’s nothing “sad” about the place; in fact, it felt like one of the sweetest, happiest places I’ve ever been & I’ve traveled extensively btw. What happens (happened) in Seaside is what happens everywhere: the town or area changed over time for a variety of reasons, and those who knew it “back in the day” understandably lament the change/changes. This is virtually unavoidable. It seems to affect the old-timers’ attitude about the place, but have little to no effect on the feeling received by new visitors or residents.
Seaside was never super expensive in the 1990s, when I first visited. Dr Beach had rated Graybar Beach there as first or 2nd best beach in the USA. The lack of cars in the heart of town is a real draw - feels like a real community!
That is interesting, I guess whoever bought there got rich by default then once prices when up! I did like being able to walk through town easily and just leave the car parked too 👌
@@MichaelBordenaro And I found the public beach access because a couple eating at the same outdoor Cafe, told me, or I would have been lost as well. You cannot blame the residents for wanting to keep some of that lovely beach for themselves. At least, they do not charge to use the beach like they do in New Jersey!
@@jdhjimbo Sounds like you got luckier than me LOL. I’m glad I could find it though. Yeah I can’t say I blame them
Grayton
@@palmsofdestin1 Yes, Grayton Beach is the one by Seaside, where Graybar is in Daytona area. My first job application was at a Graybar Electric Co, so probably why it is wedged in my senior mind! However, it was the Seaside beach that got Dr Beach's kudos.
The architecture reminds me of what I have seen of Mississippi and Louisiana on TV. The balconies. I suspected it would be an older demographic there and also a slower pace. It does not look it, but I imagine most of the people there are retired or those that moved there because they were rich enough and wanted the slower pace and less crime etc.. Like you said, it is mostly families vacationing. Miami is a younger city and full of active life style, skewed towards the younger international party crowd. There are relatively younger families in the Miami area. Tamps I imagine is getting younger and becoming like other urban areas with more of the issues that come with that. The rest of Florida I'm gathering from your trip around Florida is proving the rest of Florida to be slower paced, but not dead, Depending on the season. I'm going to retire in several years ,but I want activity. I'm only near 60. I'm pretty active and fairly fit. Looks like a place rich in history and worth a visit. Beach looks pretty.
No it actually has no history lol. It's all recently created. It's not really that many old people, that only happens during the winter with the snowbirds.
@@palmsofdestin1 Thank you for the input, I sincerely appreciate it. I understand your meaning of history in Seaside. I'm not from the south, so I knew nothing of Seaside before this video. I like to learn the history of places I may travel to or have traveled to. Seaside may not have history dating back to the early 1900's, but the 1940's when the land was originally purchased is significant enough for me. Though I have learned it did not truly didn't get started until the 1980's. Thank you I learned a lot because of this little chat.
@@mrmotorcarsrs2034 yeah Destin didn't even become a city until 2004. Most of that 30a stuff was Saint Joe Paper Company
There is no real economic driver there beyond tourism, but with online businesses and remote working, it can be available to a larger demographic. It is always better to live in an area with a wider demographic - as opposed to retirees only, or lots of 20-somethings. Balance is better. Of course, retirees are not the same as retirees from 50 years ago. Today's retirees are active - not playing shuffleboard by the pool all day!
@@jdhjimbo there's no retirees there. It's mostly tourism.
Yeah you were talking about all the empty houses. That's because they don't rent them, and they get the hell out when it gets busy like this lol.
I can see that
The panhandle beaches are dead after October until spring break. Its not worth driving down from Atlanta to gain a couple of degrees in winter.
There is a. Beautiful state park next to Seaside with plenty of natural wonder. I haven’t been to anywhere in Florida that i like less than Seaside. It seems cramped and contrived. Plenty of people must like it to command those prices but it is not my cup of tea at all.
I hear you, that is my main issue with possibly living in the panhandle, not much warmer than Georgia in the winter. Its not my cup of tea to live here either, but it was nice to visit for the afternoon
They're dead because we kill them after tourist season so people from Atlanta will stay home
Haziness from Saharan dust or west smoke fires?
Could be
Could be
There are no private beaches in Hawaii. The beaches are for everyone.
Hawaii is indeed a paradise, but island living is not for everyone, and an extremely pricey state for everything - but an ideal climate and breath-takingly beautiful!
THE BEACH IS NOT FOR RESIDENTS. DO YOUR RESEARCH. THERE ARE 17 PUBLIC BEACH ACCESS LOCATIONS WITHIN 1 MILE OF THE CENTER OF SEASIDE. VAN NESS...ACCESS IS TWO BLOCK WEST OF THE AIRSTREAM FOOD TRAILERS.
My 2 cents.
Too expensive. I'm in that boat as well.
Florida in general is expensive.
Choice of where I would visit.
Safety. Would I feel safe with my family in Miami or Northern Florida?
There is your answer.
Matter of fact. I used to like traveling in north Florida for vacation. But in the last 20 years. South Florida is migrating north. Love the psalm trees. Love the ocean. But dysfunctional people. I can do without. I will go where they arent.
Warm places tend to attract the dysfunctional types. CA has always been full of weirdos, and now FL is getting that reputation, but they are still a small part of the 25 million+ that live there. IA, Nebraska, KS and the Dakotas are free of them, but not a lot of warmth or scenery or culture in those states.
Almost as dysfunctional as your literacy
@@palmsofdestin1 take your meds
@@neonzebra19inwild I will if he will take spelling class
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Ha ha oh really where!
Less riff raff costs money. Lol
Well, the first few seconds of this video were enough for me to see I probably wouldn’t like this place.
You can't imagine our relief.
Architect Vincent Scully?
Here in CA. We say Florida, is where old people move too. To die.
Very expensive! Everything from donuts to dinner is outrageously overpriced. Crowded and not laid back. Drive through and look around, but don't waist to much time. Years ago it was a cool little spot, but no more.
I can see that for sure, it was nice to visit but everything is expensive
Looks like a very nice area, although not a fan of northern Florida.
We couldn't be happier about that.
A shame that it's still car-centric.
Lol no this isnt urban beach week
Definitely not! So refreshing 😊
@@MichaelBordenaro until fairly recently there really hasn't been a good way to fly in there. So everybody just drives. Although people are coming from farther and farther away now
@@palmsofdestin1 I flew into Ft Walton Beach Airport from DC area.
@@jdhjimbo good deal.
I just got approved today for a
Townhouse in Santa Rosa beach -rent for a 3/2 is 2750$ FYI
Good to know the public entrance to seaside beach is west (closer
to me!) - ty for that! I’ve never been to the panhandle-but grew up in ft lauderdale. It was here or Cali and this just looks waaaaaaaaay more relaxing - and cheap- and safer tbh
Can’t wait to start exploring!
Yeah, neither can we.....
Congrats! Glad you got some value from the video and you chose a nice spot on earth to call home, enjoy!