This is such a warhammer 40K moment. You think you're the big cheese of the galaxy. You think your people has a destiny, a glorious future, and then you run into something that's been at war since before your kind learned to bang two rocks together.
To be honest the tau are to the imperium what the imperium was to the eldar at thire hight given time I believe they will have a dark age of technology that will blow humanity's out the fucking water
Yup. Same thing happened to humans when they met basically everyone else, who had galactic empires 60 million years before humanity. And some of those folks are still "alive" and kicking.
When you realize that the second-youngest species in the universe has members older than your entire civilization AND gave their wheelchairs Rocket launchers and Power fists.
With the scale of the age of the universe, going into space within 40 000 years of each other actually is incredibly close in time. Actual alien civilizations we might would be expectted to reach a spacefaring stage hundreds if not thousands of millions of years before or after we do because the universe is that empty and life has been possible for that long. Within 40 000 years is basically simultaneously on the astronomical scale - hell the light from terra on the first trip to the moon may not have reached the Tau system in the 40 000th millennium because the galaxy is 100 000 light years wide.
"oh yeah" said the guardsman, "we've got *relics* older then your fucking species" "REALLY?" said the tau, "i assume you have it behind a dozen of your kinds stasis fields to preserve and protect such a unique and precious-" "lol" said the human. "Lmao."
''Statis fields? Nah, its Jeremy over there, the guy that is currently gunning down your allies. Oh and the ship we arrived on, and half of the weapons wielded by the high ranking officers, and that tank over there. I think the commander of this whole battlegroup was born slightly more than ten thousand years ago, though I'm not entirely sure if that counts since he spent at least half of it trapped in the warp.'' The Tau is staring at the human, not knowing what to say, before the guardsman smiles as a shadow falls over them ''Oh and that's Gregory behind you now, he's probably five thousand years old and he's going to rip off your head if you don't come with us willingly.''
😂😂😂 dead! Thing is. As we are humans(well most of us are anyways😅)....we kind of root for the Imperium regardless? But if you are a peace loving, significantly new species to the galaxy. Then the Imperium is one of the worst Aliens you could hope to encounter on your first journey out into the stars. Fascist. Racist. Dogmatic. Brutal. And more then capable of meeting any foe on any battle world throughout the galaxy.
@AttiasTheUntamed look up the dark age of technology, in the 40k setting humanity tried to be peaceful, our men of iron turned against us, other species preyed up us, whole worlds were lost. Because humanity tried being peaceful only the interex met during the great crusade by Horus actually worked with the humans in their part of the galaxy. He(Horus) had already been corrupted by Chaos at that point
@@TFASplbtttt i gotta disagree with you there humidity from Halo simply isn't technologically advanced enough and while the Spartan 2 would be an interesting matchup against a space marine, against a thunder warrior even chief is gonna have his work cut out for him . the forerunners those seen a hell of a lot closer to what the dark age of humanity is supposed to be like in 40K
The fun part is, this is a foreshadowing of Bravestorm's own future. He was critically injured later in the same campaign and was put on life support inside his battlesuit, becoming the tau version of a dreadnaught.
Tau battlesuits are more akin to an armored core as opposed to the dreads battletech like grit. Bravestorm got a pretty good deal assuming tau dont charge for ammo.
@@prisregil you're right I'm sorry. Let me rephrase it: "promising grievous bodily harm to someone you're pleading with to put you out of the misery your own people put you into is the most Imperial thing I can think of."
@@H_Eli right, sorry again, let me take another crack at it: "Swearing and affirming fealty to the people who have kept you in constant pain and torment for 6,000 years while also guaranteeing further violence against the individual you are now currently begging to finally grant you the mercy of the swift death you were denied millennia ago in the service of an empire that bestows such torture and horror upon it's most loyal and revered members is the most Imperium of Man thing I've ever heard." How am I doing? Did I nail this one or do we need to workshop it some more?
I just introduced someone to 40k by telling them that humans are one of the most bizarre species of the setting, and they've been written that way since the 80s
@@Bluepizza1684don’t think that’s accurate, rather they take a person, chop of the limbs, replace them with cybernetics, put what amounts to a small macintosh into their brain add a wifi router and let it run on windows 95,then they take another dead human and glue its skull to another mechadendrite so they have more RAM and can run targeting programs not designed for an OS this old,THEN they manufacture a wifi controllable bullet designed in the 15th millennium out of what remains on the hard drives they found from that time, praying TO THE BULLET every step of the way up until it is fired.
@@Birbucifer The Machine God/Omnissiah worshipped by the tech-priest, is believed to be a C'tan Shard known as the Void Dragon (one of the most powerful). So they might be more linked than most realize.
@Bruced82 and if I remember correctly that is on Mars. And possibly sent there and entombed on Mars by big e...... but I can't remember where I read that.
I love how "Filthy xeno scum" is translated to "foreign worm thing" in Tau. They don't even have words in their language to properly describe all the xenophobic slurs Humanity came up with.
The Tau discovering just how horrible the galaxy is always gives me a chuckle. It's like the one friend who is disturbed and disgusted when you tell him the lore, and you haven't even gotten to the part about the Dark Eldar yet.
Somewhere in a bunker on common Tau/Human battleground against tyrranids: Earth cast tau “to be honest with you more our species advance, and more things seem darker and darker, the warp the enclave rebellion and so on”. “(Glance behind his back) sometimes I wonder how much our leader keep us in the shadow about the galaxy. “ His Magos trench friend: =>Launch somebody-is-used-to-know.exe. =>read forbidendata.csv Rangdan, khrave, Megaracnids, C’tan and ghoulstars-heretical-stuff data file are successfully be decompressed in your wet memory. =>Launch confort protocole .exe Put a limb on his shoulder. “Nah... you'll be fine”
IKR I’m a 40k fanatic and when people see my interest they always avoid me bc they get mental scarring from how horrifying the setting is, and all of that is just us in the future, when we are stupposed to be more advanced and civilized, instead becoming something so horrific yet the alien threats are so much worse
Imagine fighting an massive mechanic beast and capturing one. You find out that after opening it, that its age predates your entire civilization by several fold. Now you come to the horrifying realization that there are more of these ancient beings. You've seen countless on the battlefield and some may be even older. These beings so beyond your years hold such contempt, such hatred for you, and that these beings who hate you so deeply can hunt you, hunt your descendants, and hunt multiple generations of your family line because time is on it's side
The space marines interred in a dreadnought don't see their fate as horrific. They see it as a final blessing to continue doing the greatest thing they could ever do with their lives: serve the emperor.
Honestly if they'd spend less time dying for the emperor, and instead living for the emperor we wouldn't need dreadnought. That being said, it is better to die for the emperor than live for yourself
The Astartes was entombed in the sarcophagus longer than the entire time the Tau civilization evolved into the highly-advanced techno civilization they are today. Crazy, but mundane in 40k.
Depending on how badly the Marine in question was hurt before being put in the Dread, he really have ended up as nothing more than a brain, skull, spine, and tons and tons of cybernetics. That is pretty much the purest form of a Dreadnought brother, everything unneeded stripped away and replaced by Walking Coffin of Death and Destruction.
I find it hilariously terrifying that sometimes the Tau have to fight things that are older than their entire civilization. It's like you are destroying a dangerous artifact instead of preserving it.
Being entombed in a dreadnought is one of the most horrifyingly painful things a marine will ever experience. A techmarine and an apothecary are required for the procedure. The former to handle all the cybernetics, and the latter to ensure the poor sod doesn’t keel over and die from all the pain he’s in. (Edit: spelling)
@@inthefade A Dark TechPriest experimented that on a Salamander. To his understanding, pain is just very, very distracting to a Space Marine, as opposed to the trauma inducing nightmare it is for us.
i know this paragraph is about a dreadnaught, but with a little bit of modification this could be about a doorbell servitor and be ten times as horrifying. Being chopped apart, entombed forever and not allowed to die in order to fight on as an eternal warmachine is one thing. but going through all of that because the fancy temple's doorbell needed something slightly more reliable than a keycard scanner is so much worse.
@oscarlove4394 don't quote me, but there was a situation- with Caiaphas Cain, I believe- when he's walking with a Tau on a human world, and they pass a servitor on the street; Cain doesn't even notice it, but the Tau representative is utterly horrified to see an amalgamation of flesh and machine shambling along. It nearly broke the Tau's mind. Or the first time Tau attempted warp travel; being null to the warp, they didn't face any issues, but the humans aboard the ship went insane from being exposed to the warp without the Gellar Fields. That's also when the Tau realized their human slaves had created a Tau Warp God from their belief in The Greater Good. And you can't forget the time some Ratling snipers blew the head off an Ethereal because he "looked fancy" and was within range; the first confirmed kill of an Ethereal and it almost broke the will of the Tau overnight since they hadn't considered Ethereals to be capable of injury, let alone killed right in front of them. No, the Tau witnessing the horrors of mankind is peak grimdark humor to me.
There's a scene in one of the Cain novels that takes place after he's retired and teaching at the schola progenium on Perlia. He's drinking his morning recaff and walking around campus and sees a truck hauling prisoners from the local jail, coming into the school grounds. He wonders about that for a second and remembers today is target ptactice day for the girls training to be Battle Sisters. Sips his recaff and walks on. Everything normal.
It’s obvious why Dreadnoughts would horrify the Tau, I mean they’re basically going up against mechs older than their entire species. But there’s something more to it I just realised. Becoming a Dreadnought is known to an outside observer to be a horrific fate for a Space Marine, but they themselves would consider it the highest honour to serve even beyond death. Since the Space Marines are the Emperor’s finest, I’d imagine the Tau would be shocked to see them end up like this. How evil must the Imperium be to subject their greatest, most loyal soldiers to such a tormented existence?
Most loyal doesn't mean it's perfect. After all, things like the Traitor Guard have to come from somewhere. As for viewpoints on Dreadnoughts, while loyal Space Marines think it's honourable as they can stay in service of Big E, Chaos Marines see it as the worst of punishments.😅
@@lpenrikewrong it’s an Astartes inside it, they are honored and revered by his brothers. Having opportunity to continue to serve beyond death is amazing. He is legitimately please with situations.
@@MrJara1018 i know hes an astartes but the experience changes chapter to chapter IIRC the only guys who actually want to be a dreadnaught are the iron hands. others can take it or leave it
@@DeadBattleBrother15 even for White Scars too…. They are the equivalent to the heavy hitter in the baseball line up. They don’t drive fast but the bolters from assault cannon are fast enough.
"It's utterly horrific they keep this guy in this warsuit for thousands of years! Yes, Ethereal, I'll go back to my cryo-sleep pod until you decide you need me again, decades later, after all the people I know are dead."
Tau are doing equally as scary, high ranking Tau gets their brain scanned and make a duplicate AI of themselves (Google Oblotai) but in the process destroys the mind of the Tau.
usually in sci-fi, the human race faces a series of terrific things of alien origin, usually older than us and all that, especially when dealing with horror. in 40k, the humans are the terrifying ancient menace, in the T'au perspective, and I really dig it
What I like about this is that this feels like it's foreshadowing what would happen to Bravestorm later on in his life. For context: Bravestorm would be gravely wounded and basically become entombed into his battle suit, like a dreadnought.
What story, book, codex is this from? And does anyone here remember the days when White Dwarf had several short stories per issue in them? I miss that... Hell, I miss GW being good. As in, not the greed machine they are now....
@@waylonswartz3850 It's from Blades of Damocles, by Phil Kelly. He's also written a series about Commander Farsight, though some aspects are a bit divisive (such as how he depicts Ethereals acting). If nothing else, I thought the possessed Tau sequences in Crisis of Faith were very well done.
Killing a Dreadnought is a grevious grudge against a Space Marine Legion, especially one as old as 6000 years old You've killed what is to them an ancient irreplaceable relic to the chapter both in the dreadnought Armor and in the Marine you've killed whos wisdom and knowledge of the Legion's and Imperium's past is seen as priceless This Tau has marked himself for death
Name One Xeno Who Isn't Marked For Death. Trick question every xeno¹ is marked for death Every single one² of them With absolutely zero allowed³ xenos ever. ¹ The emperor of course can allow whatever he wishes, but the holy god emperor surely doesn't tolerate any xenos. ² Well technically the inquisition can allow xenos to live and serve, but why would any of them do that? ³Rogue traders also technically have allowed xenos to live, and they have a writ of the emperor himself, in his sacred blood written down to confirm it's authenticity.
in all fairness, being a Tau alone is already a death sentence to the Imperium regardless. If I was the Tau, I would t-bag on top of the dreadnought and make sure as many of the space marines see the act as possible.
@@kaleidoscope3234 Then the Tau empire would have you court martialed for inappropriate behaviour, however, unlike in the Imperium you might actually live.
Destroying a 6,000 year old dreadnaught is like breaking your dads signed baseball bat. Its almost irreplaceable, and the rage is unending. Marine: WHO THE FUCK BROKE BROTHER GANGRENOR? **A bunch of T'au point at the guy who did it** Marine: **immediate bolter headshot.**
Headshot? He would keep shooting until the ground is pasted, gain temporary warp power out of rage and punch the soul so hard it lands on Khorne's trombonne.
@@massgunner4152 Depends on which marines we are talking about really. World Eaters? Just fuckin crush them into a bloody paste while screaming at decibel ranges in the triple digits. Ultramarines? Simple headshot out of anger, but not much else. Real professional. Salamanders? .....Probably give them a good reprimanding, while the dying dreadnaught swears at them... and then burn them all.
In lore: thousands of years old, relics difficult or impossible to rebuild, crippled heroes of past with vast knowledge. In game: dies as quickly as a Leman Russ tank.
theres dreadnaughts that are as old as the horus heresy(and technically older cuz obvious reasons)... so barely scratching the 4 digit mark as a dreadnaught is basicly fresh...
I still don't like the Tau, but now I realise how good they are at playing the "straight man" in the grand comedy of WH40K. It would be like having some regular soldier from the 21st century somehow being put in stasis for 39K years and waking up in the post-heresy Imperium (which honestly, someone should write).
I think there was that story where an AI ship from the Dark Age of Technology travelled to the future. Imperials murdered the Ship's crew and the AI was absolutely horrified by what humanity has become.
@@alexanderangelkov6338 "Straight man" is a comedy term. In a duo of comedians there is the guy doing or saying weird and crazy shit and there is the straight man, the sensible one who calls him out on his antics in a comedic way. Tau are the sane and sensible ones to the insanity of the WH40k
@@alexanderangelkov6338 What? The concept of the "straight man" character is centuries old. It's not his sexuality in question, but his abject normalcy in comparison to the insane characters around him
Scary to think that sure the Dreadnaught is older than the Tau, but on the other hand, the fact the Tau are this developed in this short of a time is equally terrifying.
The dreadnaught's occupant doesn't see it as a curse. They regard it as a blessing to continue on fighting in the name of the emperor. Still, the tau reaction is pretty good. Imagine him going back to report what he had just seen to his superiors. Helps them put into perspective what it is they're actually dealing with out there.
Probably spent most of these thousands as a dreadnought, they sleep most of the times and let us be honest, Dreadnoughts are rather tough and strong. So they can survive quite a bit. Other than that yeah, getting to such a high age is a rarity. It does happen but not often and I think the dreadnought also suffers degradation in combat ability and mental stability after millennia of... being a dreadnought is best way I can describe it.
dreadnaughts in particular spend a LOT of time in suspended animation, only awoken when they are needed, and most of the times a dreadnaught is felled it is usually recoverable, he may be a broken body but he is still Astarte's after all.
I've thought about that too. contrived explanations aside, it's like the lore wants to have its cake and eat it too. ancient relics on battlefields on which heavy casualties are sustained.
@@gordonlekfors2708 Applying much thought or reason to WH40 is an act of futility in and of itself. The setting is a meme unto itself, and the 'rule of cool' surpasses any logic. Near everything in the setting is simultaneously overwhelmingly powerful, yet entirely incapable of affecting any change to any meaningful degree. In short, the numbers are made up, and none of it matters.
Yeah rare, but not unheard of. Dreads are still tough af even after thousands of years. Imagine most campaigns they aren’t needed and when they do get woken up and fielded it’s because shit’s GOING DOWN. They’re repairable as well, provided the entombed asartes doesn’t die.
Despite the horror of it, one can argue that a dreadnought is a voluntary procedure that allows veterans to instruct and fight alongside new generations, allowing for their experience to be passed on. The truer horror, at leaast in terms of ideology behind it, would be a Penitent Engine. Actually, scratch that, everything the Sister do for a Tau would be true horror, they are in my top 3 most evil imperial subfactions.
Implantation into a Dreadnought is not voluntary because it requires the marine to be on the brink of death and the majority of the time they are comatose. White scars and a few other chapters view being put in a Dreadnought as one of the worser fates
Sisters won't perform true horrors on the Tau. They'll just shoot while singing hymns with no remorse. They're filthy xenos to be purged. Bolter, flamer, or melta, doesn't matter it's going in their direction. Their worst is the arco-flagellent and the penitent engine, and it's not like the Tau would have much time to consider them. Honestly, they're refreshingly simple in their zealotry. Is it for the God-Emperor of Mankind's grandeur? No? Purgin' time. The Inquisition proper on the other hand... depends on which Ordos meets up with that poor Tau.
@@chaosXP3RT Not really most evil, but their religion has twisted their minds to the point where they consider techno-horrors to be mundane, or even holy.
When the last Tau dies under humanities armored boot, I am sure the Tau will finally realize what kind of enemy they faced and that it was only Tau narcissism to think they ever stood a chance.
Humanity's tried three times now. That armoured boot's been cut off three times now. There's a reason the Imperium has decided to stop attacking the Tau empire.
Because the Empire has too much on it's plate. Tau can win many battles against the Empire but they will loose a 1v1 war. But humnity is fighting every alien race in the galaxy.
@@AnEnormousNerdLiterally only because they are not worth the trouble. Chaos and Nids are so much more incomprehensibly more dangerous that they cannot entertain the idea of putting together a fleet sufficiently powerful, not without leaving themselves horrifically open to MUCH more powerful foes. Tau sit in a comfortable spot where they get to advance in relative peace and suffer only mild aggression from the Imperium due to them being too busy. So yeah, cope harder.
@@crim1188 Indeed. The Tau are just powerful enough to not be easily squashed, but not enough of a threat to be worth the effort of destroying them. If the Imperium sent even a tenth of its full military might against the Tau the Tau would be wiped out, but the Imperium can't afford to do so. Which means, of course, that the Tau can keep advancing with relative ease, growing more powerful every year even as the Imperium continues to rot and falter into inevitable stagnation. As the Eldar after the Necron, as humanity after the Eldar, so too will the Tau inherit the galaxy.
The death of a dreadnought is a sad amd mournful event for a chapter. Each dreadnought is a testament of the chapter and their history and are typically woken up in only the most dire of situations. I hope the Tau are ready because the dreadnought's battle brothers are going to carve a bloody swath untill they find the ones responsible, both race and individual.
Tau: So I kinda get the idea….since you Marines are living weapons. But can’t you make it so the coffin thing is…more sanitary? I mean would a better filtration system be so difficult to install? Or let me guess….you lost the technology for it…. Marine: Sigh…. Ya…ya we lost it. Dread: Could we try a bath at least….please?
Marine: Why do you think we call everyone we meet "Filthy Xenos"? You are the first who ever even considered bathing. Tau: But... But this galaxy is full of life? And there are other intell... Marine: Ima gonna have to stop you right here. No there's no other. Us humans? There's simply too many of us to guarantee clean water for everyone. Eldar? They live on craft worlds with barely a handful of planets to their name. They might know water but they more than likely sleep and live in their aspect armors to guarantee they had a crystal for their soul to flee into on them every second of the rest of their lifes. Imagine taking a shower, slipping and ending up in Slaanesh's realm. Then there's the long ear's dark and fallen kin. They rather bathe in our blood or poisons of their own creation then ever considering to clean up their act. Orks. Chaos is obviously of the most unclean kind but then again, they are not xenos in the strictest sence as at least half of them are of our own blood whilst the rest was basically created by our beliefs. Necrons are all dead anyway which results in them more stinking like a long dried up mechanics workshop, kinda like our own mechanicus. Then there's obviously the Tyranids, who are technically the most clean of all because they are created seconds before being thrown onto one of our planets but then again... all the birthing juices do carry a strong odor. Which leads us to you, who may have been clean inside of your little toy suits still manage to carry the STENCH of the galaxy everywhere you go by allying yourselves with all manner of FILTH. Be it vile cannibals, grubby insects and the most unclean of all, IMPERIAL DESERTERS. Marine: So no... All you are in the eye of the Emperor are FILTHY XENOS fit only for the pyrifying touch of our flamers.
wasnt there a tau walking along with ciaphus caine that had a servitor pass by and was basicly shitting its bricks in absolute horror, meanwhile he didnt even pay attention to it...
Is it though? Maybe with small arms and close combat weapons, but any reasonable anti vehicle weaponry would take it out right quick, especially since Tau seem to be the only faction who understands Over The Horizon missiles
Must feel weird to have a pile of guts and gore incased in a metal box with guns for longer than your species has even been sentient taunt you before you kill it.
This excerpt was meant to downplay the Tau, as the commander was physically sickened by the dreadnought, and discovered that their entire species was predated by a single human out of the vast armies they had been facing; but I say this does a huge service for the Tau, as they managed to kill that thing that pre-dated them so much.
Yeah but you kill one so what there are many more ones not wounded with so much more hate that will continue to hunt and kill your kind long after you are gone and long after there bodies should be able to because they truly can’t care if they suffer as long as they can watch you bleed that is enough for them that’s what separates the tau and humans ones conquers because it believes it will bring prosperity to the galaxy the other because it hates your existence and what you have is and will be theirs
It downplays them. Basically calls them naive, because they don't even have a damn clue what they are fighting against and what worse things lie beyond the relatively safer Imperial limes. The thing being old or not doesn't mean much about it's prowess in battle. You can take a Mark I tank from WWI that will predate said dreadnought by millenia and it will crumble in one fell swoop(auxiliary bolter round). But then again, with the right conditions, even a Supermarine Spitfire can down an F-22.
i think about that often when stuff like this is brought up in 40k a space marine has been in that suit for such a long time it surprises me that he has not lost his mind.
That might be intentional. The Tau are (or at least were when they first showed up on the scene, before they got more grimderp edgy stuff added in during the whole "Everyone's completely evil in this setting!" phase GW had a while back) a good embodiment of a collection of tropes usually assigned to Humans in sci-fi that are emerging into an interstellar setting and meeting with established, older civilisations. Typicially vibrant, exploratory, curious and willing to adapt and come up with new ideas pushing against traditionalism, established dogma and fixed patterns of doing things. In a lot of ways they're supposed to be more relatable than the humans in the setting.
The big thing about the Tau really is that Humanity's ability to *be* lax on the galactic stage has never even been a consideration, from the ancient wars of Terra during the rise of the Emperor to unite the planet, to the Great Crusade, to the Horus Heresy, to all that has followed - new and emerging threats both internally and externally combined with the ironclad use of faith in a pretty-much omniscient leader, even *before* He was put on the Golden Throne by the HH, has essentially kept a tight ship running out of sheer necessity, especially after the HH, and subsequent decline of the Imperium co-inciding with shit like the Inquisition rising up to /really/ be shitters within the faction. You can genuinely blame most of the Imperium's issues *on* the Inquisition, no cap. My larger point is this - Tau simply haven't been /through/ what Humanity has, and so making this idealistic, do-gooder faction as a younger foil to humanity, which is traditionally depicted in that fashion by Sci-Fi Media, is a pretty great idea, just one that also gets people to grumble because "everyone is eeevul in the 41st Milennium". I'm personally not a Tau fan - it just isn't my cup of tea, I prefer the nuance of the Imperium of Man. They're not all good either, but part of that is a knee-jerk reaction by GW in response to initial backlash /at/ the Tau, primarily from Imperium fans, who are a very big majority of the playerbase and overall media consumers. Hell, just look at the comment section here. But uh, yeah. It's really interesting to see how Humanity changes from it's traditional interpretation in Sci-Fi before the story really even begins as presented normally, due to being a faction that, honestly, is probably the /most/ fucked on the galactic stage consistently, and could never afford to loosen up besides, put into contrast with a younger, idealistic race of aliens that could be decently cordial with humanity if our species wasn't on a "shoot first, ask questions in the autopsy room" basis due to shared trauma at being on the backfoot consistently throughout all levels of society, combined with a strict "Humanity First" policy because budging an inch *anywhere* is going to cause an influx of actually evil motherfuckers to do shitty things - i.e. Throw a dart at the Chaos God dartboard.
@@valsioncustom so basically what you saying Tau isn't horrible race because they didn't start any genocidal wars against other sentient races as soon as they get out of the home planet... yeah. No shit Sherlock.
Bruh There's more to it than that, even the Tau immediately spread out and forcefully subjugated planets in the setting from their inception in much the same fashion as humanity. It's just a consequence of *existing* in the 41st Millenium. People are pushed to do more and more horrific things as time goes on due to internal and external factors. Some start out worse, some start out better, but eventually, everyone lives to see themselves become worse people. That's just a reality of the setting. Tau ain't as bad as some. Humanity ain't as bad as some, neither. Give em the same set of circumstances, or the same duration of time existing, they'd be more or less the same level of awful. There *is* some level of nuance here. Though, looking for that in 40k is kinda missing the point...
I love the foreshadowing for commander bravestorm. He’s such an awesome character. Not only is he a bloodthirsty warlord but he’s also felled a titan and a Tyranid Biotitan on his own.
wait till he opens a chaos dreadnought and finds out how old THOSE humans are and what their mental state has been compared to the loyalist dreadnought's lol.
Funny to think that for the T'au humans are this mysterious, ancient and vast empire. If they learnt about the DAoT and the great crusade they,d shit their battlesuits.
I remember reading a passage from a codex i believe, about a couple tau cracking open a missile from space marine Stalker missile launcher, their old missile based air defense platform. They thought it was just a normal rocket, but were absolutely horrified at their discovery of human remains being wired into it to guide its flight. Then i read another where crisis suits thought they could get in close with a column of wounded guardsmen to negate the weapons from an incoming Titan lance because they figured that since the imperium was so desperate for warriors they'd send wounded back to the frontlines they wouldn't fire on them to get at enemy soldiers. One of the Titans killed like half the crisis suits in a single volley and immediately disabused them of that notion. Reading about tau discovering the absolute depths the Imperium will go to and being horrified while the humans are just like "yeah, it's just another Tuesday for us" will never not be amusing to me
i think what would horrify the t'au even more is that the dreadnaught will be rebuilt and another warrior will be interred within it to continue fighting them. to the t'au, finding out the idea of having warriors interred for thousands of years is not an old idea, its an ongoing and revered way of continuing service to the emperor and kill their enemies would be shocking to such a young race.
Not really, because they did the same thing, the Tau in the story was later entomb in his own battlesuit after surviving a direct hit (and survived) from a titan.
Astartes will fight like demons to retrieve a fallen Dreadnought, they are holy relics as much as machines of war, That Tau better have some backup with him is all i can say.
Ironically, in this part of the story the spacemarines are dying left and right like guardsmen against the Crisissuits, they literally get one shot by them. There is even another scene with this particular Tau caught a Apothecary in the middle of a battlefield and began questioning him what he is doing. Spacemarines kept coming in and shooting him. He kept killing them with a single shot without taking his eye off of the apothecary.
@buragi5441 oh please, when a avatar of khaine gets defeated by a single ultramarine I don't see you imperium wankers throwing a fit. Just admit that you don't like it when your favorite faction that already gets pandered to and has mountains of plot armor gets one small L XD
The poor Tau every single thing they see in the galaxy is just more fucked up than the last. Pure embodiment of that Community gif of Troy walking in with the pizza and everything's gone to shit
thats the best part of them... speaking as a loyalist, theyre all proud of their tech and shit until they realize what they are up against and basicly get 8 different shades of PTSD every time they look at that is basicly either a daily occurence in 40k or just something nobody gives a damn about.
Really cool to see a Sci-Fi story where humanity aren't the underdogs stepping into a world of ancient aliens so much more advanced and powerful than they are for once. The fact that humanity, to the Tau, are a race of unspeakably dangerous and horrifying ancient aliens who had perfected the art of war long before the Tau empire had even been a twinkle of a thought on their homeworld is absolutely outstanding. That dreadnought had probably killed more enemies in his 6000 years of service than the entire Tau military combined.
This is such a warhammer 40K moment. You think you're the big cheese of the galaxy. You think your people has a destiny, a glorious future, and then you run into something that's been at war since before your kind learned to bang two rocks together.
And then they kill it...
To be honest the tau are to the imperium what the imperium was to the eldar at thire hight given time I believe they will have a dark age of technology that will blow humanity's out the fucking water
And soon killed them
Yup. Same thing happened to humans when they met basically everyone else, who had galactic empires 60 million years before humanity. And some of those folks are still "alive" and kicking.
@@Drownedinblood Don't worry, there's another to take its place.
When you realize that the second-youngest species in the universe has members older than your entire civilization AND gave their wheelchairs Rocket launchers and Power fists.
Who said Space Grandpa can't be awesome?!
Aint no such thing as a peaceful retirement in Florida in the 41st Millenium.
With the scale of the age of the universe, going into space within 40 000 years of each other actually is incredibly close in time.
Actual alien civilizations we might would be expectted to reach a spacefaring stage hundreds if not thousands of millions of years before or after we do because the universe is that empty and life has been possible for that long. Within 40 000 years is basically simultaneously on the astronomical scale - hell the light from terra on the first trip to the moon may not have reached the Tau system in the 40 000th millennium because the galaxy is 100 000 light years wide.
@@martinjacobsen2992 We call it promotion to heavier duty with less pay.
@@martinjacobsen2992there isn’t such a thing as a peaceful retirement in Florida in the first place, only an entertaining retirement in Florida.
"oh yeah" said the guardsman, "we've got *relics* older then your fucking species"
"REALLY?" said the tau, "i assume you have it behind a dozen of your kinds stasis fields to preserve and protect such a unique and precious-"
"lol" said the human. "Lmao."
*Levithan Dreadnought bursts through the wall* Lmao
@@ThunderBirbIT'S LEVI
''Statis fields? Nah, its Jeremy over there, the guy that is currently gunning down your allies. Oh and the ship we arrived on, and half of the weapons wielded by the high ranking officers, and that tank over there. I think the commander of this whole battlegroup was born slightly more than ten thousand years ago, though I'm not entirely sure if that counts since he spent at least half of it trapped in the warp.'' The Tau is staring at the human, not knowing what to say, before the guardsman smiles as a shadow falls over them ''Oh and that's Gregory behind you now, he's probably five thousand years old and he's going to rip off your head if you don't come with us willingly.''
😂😂😂 dead!
Thing is. As we are humans(well most of us are anyways😅)....we kind of root for the Imperium regardless?
But if you are a peace loving, significantly new species to the galaxy. Then the Imperium is one of the worst Aliens you could hope to encounter on your first journey out into the stars.
Fascist. Racist. Dogmatic. Brutal. And more then capable of meeting any foe on any battle world throughout the galaxy.
@AttiasTheUntamed look up the dark age of technology, in the 40k setting humanity tried to be peaceful, our men of iron turned against us, other species preyed up us, whole worlds were lost. Because humanity tried being peaceful only the interex met during the great crusade by Horus actually worked with the humans in their part of the galaxy. He(Horus) had already been corrupted by Chaos at that point
i appreciate the master chief taking the time to voice this for us. very cool
Yeah you would have thought he'd have been too busy for this 🤣
@@DocSpooky wake me
when you need me
Well, I mean, doesn't Halo seem... Dark Age of Tech-y? Spartan 2's sure seem like Thunder Warriors to me
@@TFASplbtttt i gotta disagree with you there humidity from Halo simply isn't technologically advanced enough and while the Spartan 2 would be an interesting matchup against a space marine, against a thunder warrior even chief is gonna have his work cut out for him .
the forerunners those seen a hell of a lot closer to what the dark age of humanity is supposed to be like in 40K
John is a massive 40k fan. His quarters on the infinity has a gaming table. He prefers Orks I hear.
The fun part is, this is a foreshadowing of Bravestorm's own future. He was critically injured later in the same campaign and was put on life support inside his battlesuit, becoming the tau version of a dreadnaught.
Got hit full blast by a knight or was it warhound titan, I forgot.
"I live, bitch!" Bravestorm
Tau battlesuits are more akin to an armored core as opposed to the dreads battletech like grit.
Bravestorm got a pretty good deal assuming tau dont charge for ammo.
Great Writing
@@ComfortsSpecteramazing
The irony!
The space marine made a promise he would have kept.
Threatening someone while begging for mercy is the most Imperium thing I can think of.
@@fakechemicals No threats were made, but promise. Threats can be called back, Promises must be kept :)
@@prisregil you're right I'm sorry. Let me rephrase it: "promising grievous bodily harm to someone you're pleading with to put you out of the misery your own people put you into is the most Imperial thing I can think of."
@@fakechemicals he would have just gotten a new Dreadnaught body and go killing again. He made a promise to keep serving the emperor.
@@H_Eli right, sorry again, let me take another crack at it: "Swearing and affirming fealty to the people who have kept you in constant pain and torment for 6,000 years while also guaranteeing further violence against the individual you are now currently begging to finally grant you the mercy of the swift death you were denied millennia ago in the service of an empire that bestows such torture and horror upon it's most loyal and revered members is the most Imperium of Man thing I've ever heard."
How am I doing? Did I nail this one or do we need to workshop it some more?
Truly a sad day for humanity to have lost such an aged hero
Thankfully we can recover the wreckage to fix it and put the recently disabled Brother Bobimus to continue fighting the good fight.
he died doing what he loved...serving the emperors will and fucking up filthy xenos
"He zigged when he should've zagged." ~Commander Farsight [probably]
Not lost, returned to his God Emperor. To serve once more at his side, for even in death he shall serve
@@johnsteiner3417 more like commisar hindsight....AMIRIGHT
I just introduced someone to 40k by telling them that humans are one of the most bizarre species of the setting, and they've been written that way since the 80s
Not so much bizarre, but written as our most extreme natural conclusion.
@@inthefade Yeah, bizarre.
@@inthefade the human robot people of mars chop up human brains and place them into bullets, as organic chips to make the bullets move mid air
@@Bluepizza1684don’t think that’s accurate, rather they take a person, chop of the limbs, replace them with cybernetics, put what amounts to a small macintosh into their brain add a wifi router and let it run on windows 95,then they take another dead human and glue its skull to another mechadendrite so they have more RAM and can run targeting programs not designed for an OS this old,THEN they manufacture a wifi controllable bullet designed in the 15th millennium out of what remains on the hard drives they found from that time, praying TO THE BULLET every step of the way up until it is fired.
@@xenon3990 ah ok
well still
Humanity in 40k is wierd and fucked up beyond modern real life standards
The Necrons had a similar encounter in Twice Dead King: Reign. They appreciated the poetry of locking something near-dead inside a metal cage.
Of course they would appreciate that.
Necrons:
*drinks necronian coffee*
"Its art."
@@arturzinurov4781 40k humans and necrons aren't too different. besides the impossibility vast technological and historical gap
@@Birbucifer The Machine God/Omnissiah worshipped by the tech-priest, is believed to be a C'tan Shard known as the Void Dragon (one of the most powerful). So they might be more linked than most realize.
@Bruced82 and if I remember correctly that is on Mars. And possibly sent there and entombed on Mars by big e...... but I can't remember where I read that.
Imagine the verbal lashing Bjorn would give them. "WE BURNED A THOUSAND XENOS SPECIES TO ASH BEFORE YOU WERE EVEN ABLE TO FORM THOUGHTS."
Bjorn would climb out of the sarcophagus and rip the tau apart with whatever body parts he has left first though
@@eliaspanayi3465 Probably using his balls as a flail to cave in the xeno skull.
It wouldn't surprise me that Bjorn's actually perfectly whole and fine in there, it's just the best way to stop him running off and breaking things
@@TronTuborg HAHAHA its like a kid on a leash
Basically what all the boss of Mechanicus did told me about humans.
It didn't stopped me to destroy them in just one turn.
"I have AWOKEN!"
"And from a PARTICULARLY good dream including two Sisters of Battle."
"TWINS they were!"
"Prepare to be purged."
-Ancient Tankdred
tankdred has been well paid for his dedication to the emperor.
"Oh What the... NOT the color RED again!"
@@Mimu1983 Bloody Magpies! 😁
technically Sisters of battle are not required to be or stay virgins, most are just to busy with their duties
Man I miss Turn Signals on a Land Raider
I love how "Filthy xeno scum" is translated to "foreign worm thing" in Tau. They don't even have words in their language to properly describe all the xenophobic slurs Humanity came up with.
tau have a profanity filter built in for their precious snowflake war suits haha
That is probably closer to canon than we can afford to admit
@@RainbowGod666 Those minis do be expensive...
Foreign would be xeno
@@ginjaedgy49 those snowflakes living better than 99% of humanity though.
The Tau discovering just how horrible the galaxy is always gives me a chuckle. It's like the one friend who is disturbed and disgusted when you tell him the lore, and you haven't even gotten to the part about the Dark Eldar yet.
Somewhere in a bunker on common Tau/Human battleground against tyrranids:
Earth cast tau “to be honest with you more our species advance, and more things seem darker and darker, the warp the enclave rebellion and so on”. “(Glance behind his back) sometimes I wonder how much our leader keep us in the shadow about the galaxy. “
His Magos trench friend:
=>Launch somebody-is-used-to-know.exe.
=>read forbidendata.csv Rangdan, khrave, Megaracnids, C’tan and ghoulstars-heretical-stuff data file are successfully be decompressed in your wet memory.
=>Launch confort protocole .exe
Put a limb on his shoulder. “Nah... you'll be fine”
and wait, there is more... fuck i love not to be in that universe.
They just need a cultural exchange
IKR I’m a 40k fanatic and when people see my interest they always avoid me bc they get mental scarring from how horrifying the setting is, and all of that is just us in the future, when we are stupposed to be more advanced and civilized, instead becoming something so horrific yet the alien threats are so much worse
Imagine fighting an massive mechanic beast and capturing one. You find out that after opening it, that its age predates your entire civilization by several fold. Now you come to the horrifying realization that there are more of these ancient beings. You've seen countless on the battlefield and some may be even older. These beings so beyond your years hold such contempt, such hatred for you, and that these beings who hate you so deeply can hunt you, hunt your descendants, and hunt multiple generations of your family line because time is on it's side
Yeah that’d be terrifying….. if they didn’t just kill one.
so anyway, I started blasting...
Thankfully railguns exist
Tau may eventually have tech advantage but they will never have the experience the Imperium does
@@pjmetzen3483the humans are to the Tau what the necron and the eldar are to the humans
The space marines interred in a dreadnought don't see their fate as horrific. They see it as a final blessing to continue doing the greatest thing they could ever do with their lives: serve the emperor.
*CHAOS* dreadnoughts, on the other hand...
@@RainbowGod666 Chaos dreadnoughts are so terrible and unreliable, something else had to be invented to replace them.
@@imwithstupid086 the terminator virus!
Honestly if they'd spend less time dying for the emperor, and instead living for the emperor we wouldn't need dreadnought.
That being said, it is better to die for the emperor than live for yourself
Ending up in the Dreadnought was a torment for the traitor and the Heretic
But for Loyalists it is an honor to serve the Emperor longer
"Die in pain, foreign worm-thing."
Words to live by 😂
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The Astartes was entombed in the sarcophagus longer than the entire time the Tau civilization evolved into the highly-advanced techno civilization they are today. Crazy, but mundane in 40k.
"Irony" says the Eldar.
And then he takes a railgun bullet to the face and gone he is forever.
@@guy_incognito___5480 well….at that point, he really did not have much of a face left.
Depending on how badly the Marine in question was hurt before being put in the Dread, he really have ended up as nothing more than a brain, skull, spine, and tons and tons of cybernetics. That is pretty much the purest form of a Dreadnought brother, everything unneeded stripped away and replaced by Walking Coffin of Death and Destruction.
Chief now that you won all of Halo what will you do now?
Cheif: I'm gonna narrate 30+ years of Grim Dark Lore.
Don't forget starting a self help channel on youtube, what a guy, John Halo is.
@@MrKoffeeKup" personally I think halo is a pretty cool guy, he kills aliens and doesn't afraid of anything."
@@MrKoffeeKupit cracks me up because his name is literally Jhon
Becoming a Dreadnaught is one of the highest Honors for an Astartes!
And one of the worst punishments for a Chaos Space Marine....
I find it hilariously terrifying that sometimes the Tau have to fight things that are older than their entire civilization. It's like you are destroying a dangerous artifact instead of preserving it.
The same is true of most races when fighting the Necrons.
It's not far removed from battling ancient horrors and undead false gods from the previous age.
Imagine the Necrons then.
If only that artifact's pilot not wanting to exterminate you whole specie on nearly genetically level.
@@Dushess Imperium is one scary thing, but hey Tau does have logic for the most part
Being entombed in a dreadnought is one of the most horrifyingly painful things a marine will ever experience. A techmarine and an apothecary are required for the procedure. The former to handle all the cybernetics, and the latter to ensure the poor sod doesn’t keel over and die from all the pain he’s in. (Edit: spelling)
And yet they endure.
Honor to the ancients
Is not like they have a choice.
latter*
Do space marines really even feel pain the way regular humans do?
@@inthefade They feel pain, but it doesn't control them like it does normal humans.
@@inthefade A Dark TechPriest experimented that on a Salamander. To his understanding, pain is just very, very distracting to a Space Marine, as opposed to the trauma inducing nightmare it is for us.
I only enjoy the Tau to hear about their utter horror at common, everyday things within the imperium.
i know this paragraph is about a dreadnaught, but with a little bit of modification this could be about a doorbell servitor and be ten times as horrifying.
Being chopped apart, entombed forever and not allowed to die in order to fight on as an eternal warmachine is one thing.
but going through all of that because the fancy temple's doorbell needed something slightly more reliable than a keycard scanner is so much worse.
@oscarlove4394 don't quote me, but there was a situation- with Caiaphas Cain, I believe- when he's walking with a Tau on a human world, and they pass a servitor on the street; Cain doesn't even notice it, but the Tau representative is utterly horrified to see an amalgamation of flesh and machine shambling along. It nearly broke the Tau's mind.
Or the first time Tau attempted warp travel; being null to the warp, they didn't face any issues, but the humans aboard the ship went insane from being exposed to the warp without the Gellar Fields. That's also when the Tau realized their human slaves had created a Tau Warp God from their belief in The Greater Good.
And you can't forget the time some Ratling snipers blew the head off an Ethereal because he "looked fancy" and was within range; the first confirmed kill of an Ethereal and it almost broke the will of the Tau overnight since they hadn't considered Ethereals to be capable of injury, let alone killed right in front of them.
No, the Tau witnessing the horrors of mankind is peak grimdark humor to me.
There's a scene in one of the Cain novels that takes place after he's retired and teaching at the schola progenium on Perlia. He's drinking his morning recaff and walking around campus and sees a truck hauling prisoners from the local jail, coming into the school grounds.
He wonders about that for a second and remembers today is target ptactice day for the girls training to be Battle Sisters. Sips his recaff and walks on. Everything normal.
I like Farsight, but the main Tau empire can go suck a cyclonic torpedo.
Not everyday though. Even standard space marines are rare in the grand scheme.
Tau discovering things about the Imperium is always gold. Their reaction to arco-flagelants and repentia was great.
Just wait until gulliman and the lion make a deal with the tau to unite but without the ethereal caste, it would be the best thing to happen in 45k
@@TherandomshitstormerCXVII agreed, our ethereals united us in the beginning, but now.. they're too suspicious and selfish.
As I remember, Bravestorm is the guy who would later get entombed in his own battlesuit in dreadnought manner and become a member of Farsight's Eight.
Yup hes literally a flying dreanought.
It’s obvious why Dreadnoughts would horrify the Tau, I mean they’re basically going up against mechs older than their entire species. But there’s something more to it I just realised. Becoming a Dreadnought is known to an outside observer to be a horrific fate for a Space Marine, but they themselves would consider it the highest honour to serve even beyond death. Since the Space Marines are the Emperor’s finest, I’d imagine the Tau would be shocked to see them end up like this. How evil must the Imperium be to subject their greatest, most loyal soldiers to such a tormented existence?
Calling spacemarines most loyal is a bit of a stretch after all traitor legions didn't just materialize out of thin air.
Most loyal doesn't mean it's perfect. After all, things like the Traitor Guard have to come from somewhere.
As for viewpoints on Dreadnoughts, while loyal Space Marines think it's honourable as they can stay in service of Big E, Chaos Marines see it as the worst of punishments.😅
Now imagine how creeped out they would be seeing a hellbrute
*laughs in arcoflagellant and penitent engine*
And then the Tau find out there are things in the Imperium's arsenal far, far worse than a permanently crippled Marine in a mobile, armed sarcophagus.
Dreadnoughts are amazing
im sure the dude inside would disagree
@@lpenrikewrong it’s an Astartes inside it, they are honored and revered by his brothers. Having opportunity to continue to serve beyond death is amazing. He is legitimately please with situations.
@@MrJara1018 i know hes an astartes but the experience changes chapter to chapter
IIRC the only guys who actually want to be a dreadnaught are the iron hands. others can take it or leave it
@@lpenrikenot really, For Loyalists it is the highest honor to be able to fight for the Emperor and battle brothers
@@DeadBattleBrother15 even for White Scars too…. They are the equivalent to the heavy hitter in the baseball line up. They don’t drive fast but the bolters from assault cannon are fast enough.
"It's utterly horrific they keep this guy in this warsuit for thousands of years! Yes, Ethereal, I'll go back to my cryo-sleep pod until you decide you need me again, decades later, after all the people I know are dead."
Tau are doing equally as scary, high ranking Tau gets their brain scanned and make a duplicate AI of themselves (Google Oblotai) but in the process destroys the mind of the Tau.
usually in sci-fi, the human race faces a series of terrific things of alien origin, usually older than us and all that, especially when dealing with horror. in 40k, the humans are the terrifying ancient menace, in the T'au perspective, and I really dig it
To combat with horror, we have to become one
What I like about this is that this feels like it's foreshadowing what would happen to Bravestorm later on in his life. For context: Bravestorm would be gravely wounded and basically become entombed into his battle suit, like a dreadnought.
What story, book, codex is this from? And does anyone here remember the days when White Dwarf had several short stories per issue in them? I miss that... Hell, I miss GW being good. As in, not the greed machine they are now....
@@waylonswartz3850 It's from Blades of Damocles, by Phil Kelly. He's also written a series about Commander Farsight, though some aspects are a bit divisive (such as how he depicts Ethereals acting). If nothing else, I thought the possessed Tau sequences in Crisis of Faith were very well done.
"Sir, permission to leave the station."
"For what purpose, Shas'O Kais?"
"To give the Imperium back their bomb."
_"I may be a 6,000-year old quadruple amputee on life support, but that doesn't mean I can't bend you across my knee and tan your ass purple."_
Killing a Dreadnought is a grevious grudge against a Space Marine Legion, especially one as old as 6000 years old
You've killed what is to them an ancient irreplaceable relic to the chapter both in the dreadnought Armor and in the Marine you've killed whos wisdom and knowledge of the Legion's and Imperium's past is seen as priceless
This Tau has marked himself for death
Name One Xeno Who Isn't Marked For Death.
Trick question every xeno¹ is marked for death Every single one² of them With absolutely zero allowed³ xenos ever.
¹ The emperor of course can allow whatever he wishes, but the holy god emperor surely doesn't tolerate any xenos.
² Well technically the inquisition can allow xenos to live and serve, but why would any of them do that?
³Rogue traders also technically have allowed xenos to live, and they have a writ of the emperor himself, in his sacred blood written down to confirm it's authenticity.
Even worse you killed a big brother capable of giving hugs to three Salamanders at a time!
in all fairness, being a Tau alone is already a death sentence to the Imperium regardless. If I was the Tau, I would t-bag on top of the dreadnought and make sure as many of the space marines see the act as possible.
@@kaleidoscope3234 Then the Tau empire would have you court martialed for inappropriate behaviour, however, unlike in the Imperium you might actually live.
ALL xenos are marked for purging
He was lucky it was not Bjorn the Fell-Handed.
He is twice older than the T'au civilization.
Dude fought side by side with the Emperor. That’s fuckin baller.
No way that filthy blue bovine could stand up to Bjorn
Destroying a 6,000 year old dreadnaught is like breaking your dads signed baseball bat. Its almost irreplaceable, and the rage is unending.
Marine: WHO THE FUCK BROKE BROTHER GANGRENOR?
**A bunch of T'au point at the guy who did it**
Marine: **immediate bolter headshot.**
>*immediate bolter headshot.*
Joke on him, head is only a sensor suite and Crisis have backup ones in case suit's head get shot off.
nonsense, the marine would lift up his sleeves (but of his armor) and beat up that T'au to death
Headshot? He would keep shooting until the ground is pasted, gain temporary warp power out of rage and punch the soul so hard it lands on Khorne's trombonne.
@@massgunner4152 Depends on which marines we are talking about really. World Eaters? Just fuckin crush them into a bloody paste while screaming at decibel ranges in the triple digits. Ultramarines? Simple headshot out of anger, but not much else. Real professional. Salamanders? .....Probably give them a good reprimanding, while the dying dreadnaught swears at them...
and then burn them all.
I think instead, the Tau fireteam would lay off from a distance and mark the target area for an airstrike.
"No sense taking chances."
In lore: thousands of years old, relics difficult or impossible to rebuild, crippled heroes of past with vast knowledge.
In game: dies as quickly as a Leman Russ tank.
Imagine understanding that one single being has seen more of war than all the generals of your entire species put together.
Imagine having seen more war than an entire species and they still cap you like a bitch
"chief, you mind telling me what you did in that ship for three years ?"
"Sir-- reading 40k with cortana"
dont underestimate a dreadnaught's resolve, Rylanor sat around for 10k years just to call Fulgrim a bitch then virus bomb his ass
If that dreadnought's age is shocking to that tau, imagine what would happen if that tau knows how old your average Custodes are.
This terrifying, powerful ancient alien race known as Man.
At first i was "wait, but the oldest alive space marine is Dante, who's 1200 " but then i remember, yeah, he was in a Dreadnaught.
The oldest Dreadnought is, of course, Bjorn, who's so old you can play a non-Dread version of him in 30k.
theres dreadnaughts that are as old as the horus heresy(and technically older cuz obvious reasons)... so barely scratching the 4 digit mark as a dreadnaught is basicly fresh...
I still don't like the Tau, but now I realise how good they are at playing the "straight man" in the grand comedy of WH40K. It would be like having some regular soldier from the 21st century somehow being put in stasis for 39K years and waking up in the post-heresy Imperium (which honestly, someone should write).
I think there was that story where an AI ship from the Dark Age of Technology travelled to the future. Imperials murdered the Ship's crew and the AI was absolutely horrified by what humanity has become.
Tau playing a "straight man"? Whar kind of bullshit woke lingo is that?
@@alexanderangelkov6338 "Straight man" is a comedy term. In a duo of comedians there is the guy doing or saying weird and crazy shit and there is the straight man, the sensible one who calls him out on his antics in a comedic way.
Tau are the sane and sensible ones to the insanity of the WH40k
@@alexanderangelkov6338 What? The concept of the "straight man" character is centuries old. It's not his sexuality in question, but his abject normalcy in comparison to the insane characters around him
@@alexanderangelkov6338 🤦♂
Holy fuck the Imperium are literally a lovecraftian nightmare to the Tau
Pretty captivating small tableau playing out here. "What manner of enemy were they fighting on Dal'yth?" Yes. What manner of enemy, indeed.
Scary to think that sure the Dreadnaught is older than the Tau, but on the other hand, the fact the Tau are this developed in this short of a time is equally terrifying.
The dreadnaught's occupant doesn't see it as a curse. They regard it as a blessing to continue on fighting in the name of the emperor. Still, the tau reaction is pretty good. Imagine him going back to report what he had just seen to his superiors. Helps them put into perspective what it is they're actually dealing with out there.
Personally I can't understand how a space marine could be thousands of years old at the loss rates like this.
Probably spent most of these thousands as a dreadnought, they sleep most of the times and let us be honest, Dreadnoughts are rather tough and strong. So they can survive quite a bit.
Other than that yeah, getting to such a high age is a rarity. It does happen but not often and I think the dreadnought also suffers degradation in combat ability and mental stability after millennia of... being a dreadnought is best way I can describe it.
dreadnaughts in particular spend a LOT of time in suspended animation, only awoken when they are needed, and most of the times a dreadnaught is felled it is usually recoverable, he may be a broken body but he is still Astarte's after all.
I've thought about that too. contrived explanations aside, it's like the lore wants to have its cake and eat it too. ancient relics on battlefields on which heavy casualties are sustained.
@@gordonlekfors2708 Applying much thought or reason to WH40 is an act of futility in and of itself. The setting is a meme unto itself, and the 'rule of cool' surpasses any logic.
Near everything in the setting is simultaneously overwhelmingly powerful, yet entirely incapable of affecting any change to any meaningful degree.
In short, the numbers are made up, and none of it matters.
Yeah rare, but not unheard of. Dreads are still tough af even after thousands of years. Imagine most campaigns they aren’t needed and when they do get woken up and fielded it’s because shit’s GOING DOWN. They’re repairable as well, provided the entombed asartes doesn’t die.
The guard have food rations older than your species Tau.
The Tau are really basically the closest thing to us if we started to enter the world of 40k.
The Tau are Communist China
In a way...? Kinda, yeah.
Well that's kinda the point humanity failed twice in a row and the current state is a rotting corpse of an empire. Tau full of new race energy.
Robert girlyman is currently unfucking the imperium. Cut him some slack will ya.
Surprises me the Tau don't get more love.
They're so much better than the shitty Imperium.
Despite the horror of it, one can argue that a dreadnought is a voluntary procedure that allows veterans to instruct and fight alongside new generations, allowing for their experience to be passed on. The truer horror, at leaast in terms of ideology behind it, would be a Penitent Engine. Actually, scratch that, everything the Sister do for a Tau would be true horror, they are in my top 3 most evil imperial subfactions.
Implantation into a Dreadnought is not voluntary because it requires the marine to be on the brink of death and the majority of the time they are comatose. White scars and a few other chapters view being put in a Dreadnought as one of the worser fates
Sisters won't perform true horrors on the Tau. They'll just shoot while singing hymns with no remorse. They're filthy xenos to be purged. Bolter, flamer, or melta, doesn't matter it's going in their direction. Their worst is the arco-flagellent and the penitent engine, and it's not like the Tau would have much time to consider them.
Honestly, they're refreshingly simple in their zealotry. Is it for the God-Emperor of Mankind's grandeur? No? Purgin' time.
The Inquisition proper on the other hand... depends on which Ordos meets up with that poor Tau.
@@leadpaintchips9461Xenos: "Neat shit! It'll look good on your corpse as I take it from you."
The Mechanicus are actually the most evil Imperium sub-faction imo.
@@chaosXP3RT Not really most evil, but their religion has twisted their minds to the point where they consider techno-horrors to be mundane, or even holy.
When the last Tau dies under humanities armored boot, I am sure the Tau will finally realize what kind of enemy they faced and that it was only Tau narcissism to think they ever stood a chance.
Humanity's tried three times now. That armoured boot's been cut off three times now. There's a reason the Imperium has decided to stop attacking the Tau empire.
Because the Empire has too much on it's plate. Tau can win many battles against the Empire but they will loose a 1v1 war. But humnity is fighting every alien race in the galaxy.
@@AnEnormousNerdLiterally only because they are not worth the trouble. Chaos and Nids are so much more incomprehensibly more dangerous that they cannot entertain the idea of putting together a fleet sufficiently powerful, not without leaving themselves horrifically open to MUCH more powerful foes. Tau sit in a comfortable spot where they get to advance in relative peace and suffer only mild aggression from the Imperium due to them being too busy.
So yeah, cope harder.
@@crim1188 Indeed. The Tau are just powerful enough to not be easily squashed, but not enough of a threat to be worth the effort of destroying them. If the Imperium sent even a tenth of its full military might against the Tau the Tau would be wiped out, but the Imperium can't afford to do so.
Which means, of course, that the Tau can keep advancing with relative ease, growing more powerful every year even as the Imperium continues to rot and falter into inevitable stagnation.
As the Eldar after the Necron, as humanity after the Eldar, so too will the Tau inherit the galaxy.
It's all just tick tick tick until the dark gods eat the imperium anyway.
I appreciate this so much. The T'au is younger, more naive, but he's horrified by the pure maddening hatred of the Imperium.
The death of a dreadnought is a sad amd mournful event for a chapter. Each dreadnought is a testament of the chapter and their history and are typically woken up in only the most dire of situations. I hope the Tau are ready because the dreadnought's battle brothers are going to carve a bloody swath untill they find the ones responsible, both race and individual.
Tau: So I kinda get the idea….since you Marines are living weapons. But can’t you make it so the coffin thing is…more sanitary? I mean would a better filtration system be so difficult to install? Or let me guess….you lost the technology for it….
Marine: Sigh…. Ya…ya we lost it.
Dread: Could we try a bath at least….please?
Marine: Why do you think we call everyone we meet "Filthy Xenos"? You are the first who ever even considered bathing.
Tau: But... But this galaxy is full of life? And there are other intell...
Marine: Ima gonna have to stop you right here. No there's no other. Us humans? There's simply too many of us to guarantee clean water for everyone. Eldar? They live on craft worlds with barely a handful of planets to their name. They might know water but they more than likely sleep and live in their aspect armors to guarantee they had a crystal for their soul to flee into on them every second of the rest of their lifes. Imagine taking a shower, slipping and ending up in Slaanesh's realm. Then there's the long ear's dark and fallen kin. They rather bathe in our blood or poisons of their own creation then ever considering to clean up their act. Orks. Chaos is obviously of the most unclean kind but then again, they are not xenos in the strictest sence as at least half of them are of our own blood whilst the rest was basically created by our beliefs. Necrons are all dead anyway which results in them more stinking like a long dried up mechanics workshop, kinda like our own mechanicus. Then there's obviously the Tyranids, who are technically the most clean of all because they are created seconds before being thrown onto one of our planets but then again... all the birthing juices do carry a strong odor.
Which leads us to you, who may have been clean inside of your little toy suits still manage to carry the STENCH of the galaxy everywhere you go by allying yourselves with all manner of FILTH. Be it vile cannibals, grubby insects and the most unclean of all, IMPERIAL DESERTERS.
Marine: So no... All you are in the eye of the Emperor are FILTHY XENOS fit only for the pyrifying touch of our flamers.
Farsight:Spit all that shit again,C'mon,i dare ya,i double dare ya,MotherFucker!
@@alexs5814 Thanks i had fun reading it as a t'au fan
@@alexs5814 Nurgle: And I took that personally.
@@alexs5814 Also, got a nice chuckle from how you just said Orks without any further elaboration.
Man…I love every 40k race. Tau, humans, elder and all the rest.
-Walks in.
-"Eldars should dig a hole and die in it."
-Walks out.
This post was made by the space dwarfs gang.
@@giacomoromano8842 classic votann w
Well *they* hate you. With a passion. Alongside everything you know and love.
@@yaelz6043 would not have it any other way.
Humans plus misc.
6000 year old Dreadnaught dying? That's must've been a really tough battle.
Tau: "This is horrific! what are you?"
Dreadnought: "lol, you should see our Servitors :D"
wasnt there a tau walking along with ciaphus caine that had a servitor pass by and was basicly shitting its bricks in absolute horror, meanwhile he didnt even pay attention to it...
Over 6 thousand years of serving the God-emperor..just to get killed by a tau..
..
>war drone
>looks inside
>flesh
Flesh?
In MY war drone?
It's more likely than you think
“Kill me, or I shall hunt You ‘til death.” Damn.
Credit where credit is due. Taking down a 6,000 year old Dreadnaught is no easy feat.
Tau is VERY strong. But thier Empire is small.
Is it though? Maybe with small arms and close combat weapons, but any reasonable anti vehicle weaponry would take it out right quick, especially since Tau seem to be the only faction who understands Over The Horizon missiles
@@PikachuLittle Never underestimate an old person in a profession where most die young.
Must feel weird to have a pile of guts and gore incased in a metal box with guns for longer than your species has even been sentient taunt you before you kill it.
This excerpt was meant to downplay the Tau, as the commander was physically sickened by the dreadnought, and discovered that their entire species was predated by a single human out of the vast armies they had been facing; but I say this does a huge service for the Tau, as they managed to kill that thing that pre-dated them so much.
Yeah it's pretty badass to be able to kill something that is practically eldritch in the horror it evokes
Yeah but you kill one so what there are many more ones not wounded with so much more hate that will continue to hunt and kill your kind long after you are gone and long after there bodies should be able to because they truly can’t care if they suffer as long as they can watch you bleed that is enough for them that’s what separates the tau and humans ones conquers because it believes it will bring prosperity to the galaxy the other because it hates your existence and what you have is and will be theirs
It downplays them. Basically calls them naive, because they don't even have a damn clue what they are fighting against and what worse things lie beyond the relatively safer Imperial limes. The thing being old or not doesn't mean much about it's prowess in battle. You can take a Mark I tank from WWI that will predate said dreadnought by millenia and it will crumble in one fell swoop(auxiliary bolter round). But then again, with the right conditions, even a Supermarine Spitfire can down an F-22.
Humans have killed Eldar and Necrons, so...
The Tau firing that shot in realization that even mangled, dying, and disabled, the dreadnaught would make good on his promise
6000 years old, that's not bad for a Dreadnaught.
"Kill me, vexing fool."
Is the gentlemanly translation of "DO IT F%$$&@"
Wait till they discover the legend of Ancient Rylanor someday
The War corespondent will hopefully get a pulitzer prize for being able to get this close to record it all and live to tell the tale.
Such Bravery!
It was Master Chief 117, we all good!
"Heh. Silly human war-drone. So primitive. So ungainly."
*Two minutes later*
"Oh fuck..."
i think about that often when stuff like this is brought up in 40k a space marine has been in that suit for such a long time it surprises me that he has not lost his mind.
Usually they spend most their time "asleep" when not at war. They can still get a little unhinged though.
You sure about that? He seems pretty deranged to me
funny how Tau sound a lot more human to me than the human faction in WH 40k
That might be intentional. The Tau are (or at least were when they first showed up on the scene, before they got more grimderp edgy stuff added in during the whole "Everyone's completely evil in this setting!" phase GW had a while back) a good embodiment of a collection of tropes usually assigned to Humans in sci-fi that are emerging into an interstellar setting and meeting with established, older civilisations. Typicially vibrant, exploratory, curious and willing to adapt and come up with new ideas pushing against traditionalism, established dogma and fixed patterns of doing things. In a lot of ways they're supposed to be more relatable than the humans in the setting.
The big thing about the Tau really is that Humanity's ability to *be* lax on the galactic stage has never even been a consideration, from the ancient wars of Terra during the rise of the Emperor to unite the planet, to the Great Crusade, to the Horus Heresy, to all that has followed - new and emerging threats both internally and externally combined with the ironclad use of faith in a pretty-much omniscient leader, even *before* He was put on the Golden Throne by the HH, has essentially kept a tight ship running out of sheer necessity, especially after the HH, and subsequent decline of the Imperium co-inciding with shit like the Inquisition rising up to /really/ be shitters within the faction. You can genuinely blame most of the Imperium's issues *on* the Inquisition, no cap.
My larger point is this - Tau simply haven't been /through/ what Humanity has, and so making this idealistic, do-gooder faction as a younger foil to humanity, which is traditionally depicted in that fashion by Sci-Fi Media, is a pretty great idea, just one that also gets people to grumble because "everyone is eeevul in the 41st Milennium". I'm personally not a Tau fan - it just isn't my cup of tea, I prefer the nuance of the Imperium of Man. They're not all good either, but part of that is a knee-jerk reaction by GW in response to initial backlash /at/ the Tau, primarily from Imperium fans, who are a very big majority of the playerbase and overall media consumers. Hell, just look at the comment section here.
But uh, yeah. It's really interesting to see how Humanity changes from it's traditional interpretation in Sci-Fi before the story really even begins as presented normally, due to being a faction that, honestly, is probably the /most/ fucked on the galactic stage consistently, and could never afford to loosen up besides, put into contrast with a younger, idealistic race of aliens that could be decently cordial with humanity if our species wasn't on a "shoot first, ask questions in the autopsy room" basis due to shared trauma at being on the backfoot consistently throughout all levels of society, combined with a strict "Humanity First" policy because budging an inch *anywhere* is going to cause an influx of actually evil motherfuckers to do shitty things - i.e. Throw a dart at the Chaos God dartboard.
@@valsioncustom so basically what you saying Tau isn't horrible race because they didn't start any genocidal wars against other sentient races as soon as they get out of the home planet... yeah. No shit Sherlock.
Bruh
There's more to it than that, even the Tau immediately spread out and forcefully subjugated planets in the setting from their inception in much the same fashion as humanity.
It's just a consequence of *existing* in the 41st Millenium. People are pushed to do more and more horrific things as time goes on due to internal and external factors. Some start out worse, some start out better, but eventually, everyone lives to see themselves become worse people. That's just a reality of the setting. Tau ain't as bad as some. Humanity ain't as bad as some, neither. Give em the same set of circumstances, or the same duration of time existing, they'd be more or less the same level of awful. There *is* some level of nuance here. Though, looking for that in 40k is kinda missing the point...
I love the foreshadowing for commander bravestorm. He’s such an awesome character. Not only is he a bloodthirsty warlord but he’s also felled a titan and a Tyranid Biotitan on his own.
wait till he opens a chaos dreadnought and finds out how old THOSE humans are and what their mental state has been compared to the loyalist dreadnought's lol.
If the Tau think that's bad, wait til they meet a Necron.
I remember this moment. It was incredible
Funny to think that for the T'au humans are this mysterious, ancient and vast empire. If they learnt about the DAoT and the great crusade they,d shit their battlesuits.
any random necron ever: 6000 years? Damn i wish i was that young
More like: I just went to study some data, what the fuck are these blue things running around??
"what wars must there be in creation that require warriors like you?"
- Aspirant Raclaw, on his first sight of a Space Marine
First job as a newly-trained battlesuit pilot is figuring out how to disable the olfactory relay
You never truly knew your enemy until you see just what they’re capable of
Breaks my hesrt they take such an iconic kit out of production. Ty for this
I remember reading a passage from a codex i believe, about a couple tau cracking open a missile from space marine Stalker missile launcher, their old missile based air defense platform. They thought it was just a normal rocket, but were absolutely horrified at their discovery of human remains being wired into it to guide its flight.
Then i read another where crisis suits thought they could get in close with a column of wounded guardsmen to negate the weapons from an incoming Titan lance because they figured that since the imperium was so desperate for warriors they'd send wounded back to the frontlines they wouldn't fire on them to get at enemy soldiers. One of the Titans killed like half the crisis suits in a single volley and immediately disabused them of that notion.
Reading about tau discovering the absolute depths the Imperium will go to and being horrified while the humans are just like "yeah, it's just another Tuesday for us" will never not be amusing to me
Goes hard af
I fucking love Dreadnaughts. They are such bad asses. He literally pulled what I put at the end of the video 😂
The question shouldn’t be “What kind of Enemy are we fighting?” It should be “What are they fighting that they required such a thing to begin with.”
It could be worse, you could Branthan and have a jury rigged Dreadnought because you are low on supplies and maintenance. Thanks for the video.
i think what would horrify the t'au even more is that the dreadnaught will be rebuilt and another warrior will be interred within it to continue fighting them.
to the t'au, finding out the idea of having warriors interred for thousands of years is not an old idea, its an ongoing and revered way of continuing service to the emperor and kill their enemies would be shocking to such a young race.
Not really, because they did the same thing, the Tau in the story was later entomb in his own battlesuit after surviving a direct hit (and survived) from a titan.
I dunno, the "turns out humans are the REAL monsters after all" is over done and twee.
We need more of this man. I know how the tau reacted to seeing a titan, but i dont know what the excerpt is from.
With horror, briefly before destroying it so badly that the entire Titan Maniple retreated.
Tau basically did a 40K version of the 'What the fuck did I just read' meme.
Astartes will fight like demons to retrieve a fallen Dreadnought, they are holy relics as much as machines of war, That Tau better have some backup with him is all i can say.
Ironically, in this part of the story the spacemarines are dying left and right like guardsmen against the Crisissuits, they literally get one shot by them.
There is even another scene with this particular Tau caught a Apothecary in the middle of a battlefield and began questioning him what he is doing. Spacemarines kept coming in and shooting him. He kept killing them with a single shot without taking his eye off of the apothecary.
@thelardmaker6806 I mean...doesn't matter how Uber sacred your op armor is, if the other guy has a high powered rail/plasma gun...you're not living.
@@Alzir-n9m Or more likely just the typical case of Black Library writers being hacks.
@buragi5441 oh please, when a avatar of khaine gets defeated by a single ultramarine I don't see you imperium wankers throwing a fit. Just admit that you don't like it when your favorite faction that already gets pandered to and has mountains of plot armor gets one small L XD
@@Alzir-n9m What?? Are you blind?? Literally everyone shits on Ultrasmurfs and on Matt Ward for making them the bestest of the best.
Rest now, champion. Glory to you, eternal.
I don't think anyone noticed, so: the Tau translator censoured the dreadnought's words.
Maybe censored, maybe it's just the usual google-translator shenanigans.
"rendering the creature's *slurred* words into the tau lexicon"
You're damn right they're slurs.
Astartes age like fine wine... sometimes even in a casket!
idk why this made me laugh so god damn much...
Truly, the only thing greater than to die for The Emperor, is to live for him. Live and fight beyond mortal injuries, as he does for us.
Poor Tau, so naive...
Dreadnoughts seem grimdark until you see that one episode of Dr Who with the Toclafane.
The poor Tau every single thing they see in the galaxy is just more fucked up than the last. Pure embodiment of that Community gif of Troy walking in with the pizza and everything's gone to shit
thats the best part of them... speaking as a loyalist, theyre all proud of their tech and shit until they realize what they are up against and basicly get 8 different shades of PTSD every time they look at that is basicly either a daily occurence in 40k or just something nobody gives a damn about.
God the voice was awesome. Really loved the narration you did. Also the JohnTron at the end caught me xD
I need to look into this further, but if that is THE Bravestorm, that's actually really interesting and cool.
Really cool to see a Sci-Fi story where humanity aren't the underdogs stepping into a world of ancient aliens so much more advanced and powerful than they are for once. The fact that humanity, to the Tau, are a race of unspeakably dangerous and horrifying ancient aliens who had perfected the art of war long before the Tau empire had even been a twinkle of a thought on their homeworld is absolutely outstanding. That dreadnought had probably killed more enemies in his 6000 years of service than the entire Tau military combined.