Is Breitling getting lazy? - A fair look at the new Chronomat GMT 40

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  • @gmund317
    @gmund317 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I have the blue dial version. My dealer gave me a 10% discount. The watch is absolutely stunning (unlike the Tudor, IMO) and the bracelet is extremely comfortable.

    • @SunsetSheen
      @SunsetSheen ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How do you resize the bracelet on these? If you remove a link does it remove just one of the “barrel” links, or two of them? I can’t tell if a link consists of one barrel or two. If just one then it would allow for a more exact fit. Can’t find this info anywhere.

    • @desireless4092
      @desireless4092 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's because you have 5 sec. attention span and you need to have something blingy and cringe like Breitling. You don't like fine machined toolish watches and you like to get attention.

    • @abdulrahmanbolboshoot5841
      @abdulrahmanbolboshoot5841 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@desireless4092Why are you insulting him just because he prefer a watch over the other? People have different tastes and opinions.

    • @keesketsers5866
      @keesketsers5866 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@desireless4092: I owned the Tudor GMT Pepsi, nothing special about it and certainly not "fine machined". Tudor fanboyism is getting out of hand. It's "nice" for the money, but it's miles away from Rolex, Omega or Breitling (and thus, also in price). Tudor is scratching the itch for people that love the vintage Rolex look and feel, if you are not into that than there is no reason to buy Tudor (how many people buy the Tudor Royal, Glamour or 1926 watches? No one).

    • @desireless4092
      @desireless4092 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@keesketsers5866 The FXD is awsome and compliments my mint Rolex Date Just 41. The machines edges and satin look of the Titanium. Nahh... You guys like to wear uber flashy things. Even my DJ41 is tame compared to Omega and Breitling. And I owned a SuperOcean 42 before I flipped it for good.

  • @GunGlutton
    @GunGlutton ปีที่แล้ว +10

    My first luxury watch was a breitling. I will inherit my dads aerospace one day. It will be the only breitling I need. He was never a watch guy. But he’s worn it everyday since I was a kid

  • @generalpatton272
    @generalpatton272 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I do really like these new watches from breitling. I’m a Breitling fan suddenly. I think the wings logo, is the best logo in the game

  • @ryangallagher7439
    @ryangallagher7439 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I think that a non-in-house movement is not a deal breaker. I'd rather have a tried and tested quality movement that is easy to service than one that's only serviceable by the brand at considerable expense. The watch itself with the green dial is one of the best-looking watches around. As for the box does anyone really buy a watch for the box? Great content as usual.

    • @LKRM8863
      @LKRM8863 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Quite agree. What matters first is the quality and look of the watch.

    • @bertholdbach4959
      @bertholdbach4959 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Maybe, but then for what are people paying those high prices? Where is the luxury when breitling uses movements that come in watches 1/2, 1/3 the cost? I think at this price we should expect inhouse or st least ingroup movements.

    • @ryangallagher7439
      @ryangallagher7439 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@bertholdbach4959 hi I agree that in the upper end of the luxury watch world Vacheron and the likes the movement is more important but In the market Breitling are in a good robust movement is what's required and not an in-house movement that not very good and can only be repaired by the brand

  • @johnmalone8790
    @johnmalone8790 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Recently purchased my first Brietling. The Navitimer with the B01 movement. I found the small, simple watch box refreshing. I store most of my watch boxes in the loft with the suitcases... Personally I don't buy a watch for its box and if I didn't have a loft, some of my larger boxes would take up way to much room in drawers etc

    • @thepetesmith
      @thepetesmith 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m in between the chrono b01 and the GMT model of the navitimer. How’s that wearing overtime? I kind of like how the gmt is a bit less flashy on an already flashy design.

  • @stevedoyle74
    @stevedoyle74 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    For the last few years I’ve thought that most Breitlings are way over priced, and that has completely turned me off of them and that angered me because Breitling is my OG brand that originally made me fall in love with watches 30 years ago

    • @laazdev
      @laazdev ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Don't get angry over how a company positions it's products in the market. Just spend your hard earned dollars elsewhere

    • @bigmacdaddy1234
      @bigmacdaddy1234 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think the price is right. Breitling puts out a high quality watch with no issues. The dual time caliber is better for the occasional traveler that just wants two easy to read time-zones.

    • @philc1773
      @philc1773 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Breitling started my journey too.
      I don't think the overpriced point is fair overall.
      I can get a Premier Duograph with a full gold case for the same money as a Rolex YachtMaster!
      Unbelievable value! Any Breitling model with in house movement is priced very well.
      Avenger B01 is a blooming bargain for what you get on the bracelet, same with the Navi....

    • @Klingonmastr
      @Klingonmastr ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They also don't even bother putting a quality movement in this GMT watch. If I'm going to pay 5K for a GMT watch I want something that has more than just a 42 hour power reserve. I do like the fact this watch is 40MM which makes it good for someone with a small wrist. Normally when I think of Breitling I think of something like the Super Ocean which is way too big for me.

    • @Tony-u2y4i
      @Tony-u2y4i ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@bigmacdaddy1234 it’s a 100 dollar movement in a 5500 dollar watch . There is nothing wrong with movement but don’t charge stupid prices . At that price people quite rightly expect a movement that exercises some of the companies original watch making prowess. If you are not going to do this that’s fine but charge proper prices .. Think most don’t care that it’s an eta it’s the fleecing the customer that the majority find annoying..

  • @markymark3572
    @markymark3572 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Love the styling, love the dial. Breitling are pushing their luck with the price with that movement though. Never mind the Tudor, the Longines Spirit Zulu Time GMT destroys it in terms of bang per buck

    • @gurkankiziltan9429
      @gurkankiziltan9429 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Agreed. Zulu Time is an amazing watch and value. If it's case was 1mm smaller and 1mm thinner, I would not be wasting my time watching Breitling videos.

    • @gogaming1537
      @gogaming1537 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      zulu 39 fits my size, but when i tried it, it really chunky.
      I decided to buy this chronomat, the longer i wear, the more i love it.

  • @1993hussam1413
    @1993hussam1413 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Look at it with majority of people eyes, not from collector’s eye. We see Tudor as poor man’s Rolex while Berilting is respected on its own. Sooo no comparison at all

    • @SIZZO76
      @SIZZO76 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      YOU SPEAK TRUTH MY FRIEND

    • @kennethgrisham9409
      @kennethgrisham9409 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was wanting a Tudor I tried this on and it fit my wrist absolutely perfectly so I’m torn

    • @NS-hp2uh
      @NS-hp2uh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Which tudor?​@@kennethgrisham9409

  • @ianrr1977
    @ianrr1977 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I think those new boxes are a great idea. I've got a cupboard full of oversized boxes, that never get looked at, taking up space.

    • @CayenneTurboDriver
      @CayenneTurboDriver ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly.

    • @altairisj
      @altairisj 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Don't mind the box either. Was surprised at first, but it is apparently wholly made of recycled materials, whatever that means nowadays. Takes up less space than my seiko box, so it's a win for storage.

  • @mickfpmcolo5478
    @mickfpmcolo5478 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Interesting, the new Super Ocean received similar criticism because of the movement and related MSRP. The grey market price of the SO reflects a significant decrease from the MSRP. I expect the same thing to happen with the Chronomat GMT.
    Breitling design and finish is outstanding. The B01 movement is top shelf on there higher price-point chronographs. They need to figure out their in house movement on non chronograph watches, if they expect people to buy these watches at the AD or Boutique.

  • @karlsonmackay1453
    @karlsonmackay1453 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Call me shallow but the luminosity on this alone with the white dial and the red accented ticker not to mention being a 40mm makes me want this in my collection 💯

  • @terryc6420
    @terryc6420 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This chronomat is a sporty chic watch that happens to be a caller-GMT as a bonus, so no one is cross-shopping it with a tool watch like the BB Pro. Its true competitors are the Bell & Ross BR05 and the Zenith Defy Skyline.

  • @dominicrusho
    @dominicrusho ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You can tell Breitling has been run by profit-hungry private equity people; the crappy boxes, the unremarkable movements, the insane servicing prices; everything is about maximising margin.

  • @nedflanders3769
    @nedflanders3769 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very fair criticisms, Bruce. Breitling is one of my favorite brands as well. I might just have to pop into the local boutique today to have a look at some of their amazing new releases. I love the green dial on that watch. My favorite color.

    • @BruceWilliams
      @BruceWilliams  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They make a perfect green. Hate to say it, but it's prettier than Rolexes green

  • @DWilliam1
    @DWilliam1 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I was at the Breitling Boutique yesterday and it’s a great watch. The movement is fine and it’s fit and finish is top notch. In a day where you can only buy an Explorer on the gray market for $12K, this is a good deal. They modify their movements heavily. I didn’t buy it as I just bought a Santos De Cartier large an hour earlier. That has an in-house movement but only 42 hours of reserve…and an ETA is probably a better movement to boot. ETA has served me well in my 2006 SMP300. The movement is fine and outsourcing was the norm for many of the most storied and iconic watchmakers throughout history. Also,who cares about the box? Rolex has a terrible box. That’s a millennial thing. The watch is what matters. I will go back and buy this watch in blue before summer.

    • @DWilliam1
      @DWilliam1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Update: I ended up buying the “ice blue” platinum bezel version. Absolutely beautiful. 2K more but they offered me 8% off or an additional bracelet. I took the “bullet” bracelet($1300 retail) since the version I got came with a black rubber bracelet. Zero regrets as I wear it regularly. BTW, I also own a 2022 SOH 2 with the B20 movement (70 hour, high end movement) and it has a solid case back. Again, the box means nothing, but the Platinum came in a leather version of their “new” box.

  • @thepa1
    @thepa1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for the vid Bruce. It’s a great looking watch. However ‘lazy’ doesn’t cover it for me. Complacent is a better way to describe Breitling at the moment. Similar to the divers they released last year. Not good enough in the movements for the price. IMHO

  • @Dr.Gunsmith
    @Dr.Gunsmith ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My favourite brand too, love my Chronomat GT 18k gold & SS bi metal 2001 🙏 but is a pain to wind up.

  • @martinharrison4245
    @martinharrison4245 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think the rado captain cook is one of the nicest green dials I've seen on a watch. And it's affordable, with a beads of rice bracelet, its a great piece for less than half the cost of the breitling. Accurate movement and 80 hrs power reserve , and just a great overall design, thats quite unique .

  • @ajgross67
    @ajgross67 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really like the look of this watch, one of my favorite GMT’s on the market. If I could get it in the $3k-3,500 range I think it would be a great watch. $5500 is a tough pill to swallow though

    • @dannysimenauer5745
      @dannysimenauer5745 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can buy the watch between 30 to 50% off by sopping online, so no need to pay full list. I own 2 Breitling models and they are both great watches to wear in comfort and style.

    • @gurkankiziltan9429
      @gurkankiziltan9429 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree the price should have been in the $3-3.5K range (Similar to a GS quartz GMT) considering the movement is not in-house or even a real GMT. But it's really a beautiful and unique-looking watch especially with that bracelet.

    • @jcnole77
      @jcnole77 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      found them in low to mid 4's

  • @rutgerv.6050
    @rutgerv.6050 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Breitling is also my favorite brand if I had to choose.
    This chronomat is beautiful but just too expensive considering the movement imho, I liked It on my wrist but wasn’t blown away.
    I still would choose this over the Tudor because of It looks though.
    I love the bling of this one buttttt, it will get scratched really easy. Too easy for my taste
    I just bought the green SOH on rubber. Loving It.
    Is that still on your list Bruce?

  • @motaz1975
    @motaz1975 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    breitling now compared to 10 years ago, wow what a difference. love the brand now, then i would not even have considered them.

  • @jaybcarlile
    @jaybcarlile ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That lack of jump hour true travelers GMT complication completely killed this one for me in my eye. Like the design but it’s a hard no for me as a major Swiss brand without that true GMT complication. ❌
    Great review as always 👏

  • @Alex_GMan
    @Alex_GMan ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi. Beautiful looking timepiece. I think the date window sits nicely with the white that compliments the indices, keeping the dial balanced.

  • @MaurizioGioli
    @MaurizioGioli ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you Bruce for another great review and video! I would like to share my view on it too. I own this watch with the blue dial together with the chronomat B01in silver, and the Superocean 42 AB20 in black, and I think this is an amazing everyday watch, is very comfortable, looks amazing, has GMT functionality and 200mt water resistance and the overall quality of Breitling watches. I agree that the box is a let down but again is something that people appreciate (not me to be honest) from an environmental perspective. I also agree that the price is a bit too expensive and themovement could be better but as you mentioned can be easily and very economically. I find difficult thought to be unhappy about the watch because of these things. Are watch enthusiast not the people who buy a Rolex or a Patek at 4 or 5 times the retail price just to have it? I think it has become a bit hypocritical from all of us to complaint about one brand overprice and not about another. To me any watch has an emotional buy in it. It has to give me what I want and make me feel good with it and because of that even if the price doesn't seems to be right it is not a deal breaker. I am sure most of watch collector do that although very few admit it. I love this watch and I wear it much more than the Chronomat B01 because it feels much better on the wrist and gives me the same vibes of the big brother without killing my wrist. Do I think about the movement, the box or how much I pay for it every time I look at it? Definitely not. Do I smile and feel reassored every time I look at its dial, amazing looking and unique bracelet, finishing and when I think I have a chronometer certified watch? Absolutely YES! ...and as someone else mentioned you can always get between 15 and 20% discount from a dealer which make the price a bit more even. ;)

    • @insomnia_boss
      @insomnia_boss ปีที่แล้ว

      Great response I couldn’t agree more. Breitling has a reputation in being robust, functional, and elegant all of which define this watch. Which was exactly what I was looking for in an every day watch. It’s a dive watch, a GMT, and no matter where you travel to, you have the reliability of a strong reputable brand. I have the white dial.

  • @wristopia4101
    @wristopia4101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have seen dial alignment issues with these.
    Also the movement is not the most confidence inspiring when setting.
    GMT hand on two I tried did not hit hour markers at same time as local hour hand, but then again nether does my Tudor (although does a better job).
    My Longines Zulu Time Does.

  • @Zyklop223
    @Zyklop223 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have the Avenger 43 Chrono with blue dial and wearing it on the blue strap. Great watch which is built like a tank and so accurate! Also I just saw a video with a watchmaker and he said that Breitling is modifying the B13 movement to make it cosc certified.

  • @steliannikolov4163
    @steliannikolov4163 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the Schneider era Braitling. I own a Chronomat GT from 2002.

  • @inlineskia
    @inlineskia ปีที่แล้ว

    I low key kind of love that green and everytime I go to OC tanner I'm super tempted.

  • @WparuSlowach
    @WparuSlowach ปีที่แล้ว

    The best Breitling watches are from 90’s and from early 00’s. Still looking for my Chronomat in gold with papers etc.

  • @troytroyus913
    @troytroyus913 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the thinness... not going to make a thing out of movement manufacturer or box, but... office GMT and no micro adjust at this price range is sad.

  • @drchung474
    @drchung474 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolutely loved this Breitling on paper, but was not a fan of this GMT at all when seeing it on my wrist. I honestly haven't been able to find a single Breitling I enjoyed, aside from maybe their 42mm diver. Very sad about this. Hope I can find something from them I enjoy moving forward! I do love the green dial tho

  • @MrZZooh
    @MrZZooh ปีที่แล้ว

    The used chronomats from before George Kern with the B01 movement are great value.

  • @BVB-borusse
    @BVB-borusse ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like the white dial, I already ordered the watch and this would be my first Breitljng next to 3 Rolex watches I have.
    But I al really considering to send it back, I have the option. Something just doesn’t feel right, but on pictures I love the watch. Let‘s see how I feel when I get it.

  • @brumsgrub8633
    @brumsgrub8633 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think that watch is beautiful. Its simple, clean classic.

  • @wolfdna788
    @wolfdna788 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the new watches but I like the old bracelet. The old bracelet was the best bracelet that I've ever seen on any watch so masculine

    • @andreikun
      @andreikun ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Which old bracelet?

    • @wolfdna788
      @wolfdna788 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andreikun the angled one looks like the links are sideways. I can't explain sorry

  • @vijaymehra1101
    @vijaymehra1101 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    out of all current Breitling's models nothing really appeals to me, but this one is growing on me...improve the movement, add a case back, and dont jack up the price and these will start selling really well.

  • @Jay_Bee1
    @Jay_Bee1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there another watch except the Mido that does GMT and has a diver bezel?

  • @SB-Kiwi
    @SB-Kiwi ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The finishing on the Breitling is much more luxurious than that of the Tudor. Overall a more luxury feeling watch. There is far too much hype surrounding in house movements in my opinion.

    • @andreikun
      @andreikun ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don’t think it is about in-house or non in-house but rather the value you get from a watch. If a non in-house watch you can source easily at a lower price and still charge a premium that is a red flag.

    • @SB-Kiwi
      @SB-Kiwi ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@andreikun that's a fair point however I believe one that is lost and instead emphasis placed on in house as if it is somehow superior souly because a movement is made in house. That's certainly the way it comes accross when I hear in house being flung about. I don't think there is any doubt that amongst most collectors having an in house movement adds prestige to a brand or piece, I just think it's a bit overrated in many cases (pun intended). 😉

    • @andreikun
      @andreikun ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SB-Kiwi it does add prestige as it shows that watchmaker is capable of producing own parts, it does not mean they are better than ETA la Selita 😁

  • @flaviusjurj6960
    @flaviusjurj6960 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    If it shows you another time zone then it is a real GMT. I have never understood why there is so much drama about GMT movements.

    • @flaviusjurj6960
      @flaviusjurj6960 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Doggo-frencton Honestly, does anyone care?

    • @BruceWilliams
      @BruceWilliams  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      If you can read multiple times zones its called a dual time. If the local hand is independently adjustable without hacking the balance it is called a true gmt. True gmts are a step above dual times. It is the ideal complication for travelers

    • @flaviusjurj6960
      @flaviusjurj6960 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BruceWilliams 👍

    • @turn-me-later
      @turn-me-later ปีที่แล้ว

      @@flaviusjurj6960yes, a lot

    • @Apetro89
      @Apetro89 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Honestly not sure why people make such a big deal about true/office GMTs. Honestly I prefer office gmt since setting the date on a travelers gmt is a pain especially when you wear the watch once every 2 weeks like i usually do.
      Breitling here is a bit overpriced but so is most of their catalog. I appreciate the in-house movement in the Tudor pro however, if Tudor used the ETA 2892-2 this would make the watch 3 mm thinner and would be an absolute yes from me.

  • @mchoch4576
    @mchoch4576 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just got the Breitling and I have to admit that the Bullet Bracelet and The Green dial is gorgeous and I believe this watch just saved me $25k by not getting a Hulk, and your video putting them side by side , 100% shows that the Breitling hands down is the better looking watch and really is more functional too, GMT, Dive Bezel, 200m ( my bathtub isn't that deep ). Compared to the Hulk 300m oyster bracelet. Don't get me wrong if the Hulk was more reasonable in price , Yes, I would still get one only because it's an ICON watch. I own a 2016 Rolex GMT AKA Batman (first edition) 2022 Rolex Two Tone Sub AKA Bluesy and a 2023 Rolex GMT AKA Root Beer, and some others, but this Breitling is simple well worth it's entrance price to play., and today I was showing it to some friends , the worst thing I heard was it's a great starter watch
    I just laughed, This watch is much more in my opinion. Anyway Thank you kindly for your opinion amd another great video.

  • @simonmiles1972
    @simonmiles1972 ปีที่แล้ว

    Superb looking watch, great size, nice and thin. I would be OK with the movement if only this was reflected in the price.

  • @jwdepriest
    @jwdepriest ปีที่แล้ว

    You and I have the same taste in greens and I usually have the same dilemmas in that regard. I have found that for me Omega and Breitling have so many ups yet so many downs at the same time that keep me from ever pulling the trigger on any.

  • @steveneumeyer681
    @steveneumeyer681 ปีที่แล้ว

    i think the box is great, it's a good size. it's kinda nuts that from most manufacturers, you buy a watch with a box that's like 5-10x the size of the watch, just to have a sit in a closet or drawer taking up space. it's even more of a problem if you own many watches. so for me, that negative is a positive.

  • @slanealb
    @slanealb ปีที่แล้ว +1

    While some brands are pushing the boundaries of horological innovation, Breitling is pushing the boundaries of how much they can charge for a watch with a $80 dollar caller GMT movement with a 40 hour power reserve. It's too bad this stuff dilutes the merits of the wonderful B01 pieces in the premier lineup. If you want to know what an off the shelf movement done right looks like, visit your Oris or Longines dealer. Heck, you can pick up a Longines Zulu time for less than $3000 for a true GMT and 72 power reserve.

  • @1bluensx
    @1bluensx 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love that Datora on the bracelet. It’s “nice” on the strap, but beautiful on the bracelet. I have an older model Datora, and it remains as a favorite watch of mine. Breitling is also a favorite brands of mine. I do like many of the Rolex’s but they have totally turned me off as a brand with their BS waiting lists, no availability etc.

  • @greekforce1698
    @greekforce1698 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love Breitling. Own 3 of them and I am in the market for a nice GMT watch. I checked this out at the AD recently. I tried to like it, but something about it just didn't sit right. At this price point, it has to feel right.

    • @dannysimenauer5745
      @dannysimenauer5745 ปีที่แล้ว

      GreekForce, I bought a Breitling Navitimer 8 Unitime World Time (AB3521U01G1A1) and absolutely loving it! You can tell the tine anywhere in the world at a glance. Comes with black or white dial, leather or steel strap. Check it out and see if it suits your taste.

  • @davidobrien9362
    @davidobrien9362 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like these new,less chunky shiny watches,like those roll bracelets just like a plain tool watch less blingy

  • @michaelphillips5263
    @michaelphillips5263 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very interesting video, Bruce. I'm waiting for delivery of a new green dial Chronomat GMT from my AD, and am very excited to be getting it. You raise good points about the pluses and minuses of the model, even though I don't completely agree with you on several of them. If I may, some observations and comments: the main thing that bothers me about the C'mat GMT 40 is that, for the money, Breitling could have used a higher quality movement; but, I dunno,- maybe to keep it thin required the movement to be what it is. One of the principal reasons I like the C'mat GMT is because it's THIN. I also like its versatility as both a GMT and a Diver. Very useful. It also does NOT bother me that the watch is an office GMT rather than having a traveler's configuration. The quick set date on the Breitling outweighs the pain in the neck of having to twirl the hour hand twice around the dial to advance the calendar a single day on a traveler's. Also, the white date window on the green dial is visually more pleasing (to me) and coordinates well with the other dial furniture. I, for one, applaud Breitling for toning the box way down, especially these days when resources are becoming scarcer and more expensive. I have several high end watches that came in suitcase sized boxes. Talk about a needle in a haystack! Omega has historically been guilty of this overkill. And my recently purchased Bucherer Heritage Bi-compax's box is so big, and had so much extraneous junk, that I had to store it in its own closet! On the other hand, Grand Seiko does a creditable job of providing an appropriate-sized, quality box for its watches, as does Ball, Rolex, Glashutte Original, and Tudor. IN FACT, I'D LOVE TO SEE YOU DO A VIDEO ON THE DIFFERENT SIZED BOXES THAT HIGH END WATCHMAKERS PROVIDE WITH THEIR WATCHES. THAT WOULD A LOT OF FUN. Love your stuff. Keep up the good work! Best regards.

  • @dickcurrey21
    @dickcurrey21 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You are 100% correct on the movement. Though to me the whole "in house" thing is overblown, but, a movement that can be had in watches for a grand (sure not certified) in a watch this expensive is a deal breaker. Even if they didn't want to trade with Tudor again for another movement you can't tell me this was their only other choice.

    • @BruceWilliams
      @BruceWilliams  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was probably the only feasible choice for this case. There is no way they are not going with a Swiss made gmt. And selitta was likely the only maker who would could fit into the case and could produce the numbers required

  • @dominicancash
    @dominicancash ปีที่แล้ว

    Just get the 42 has a different in house movement. Watches also are about what you like that tudor looks laughable next to how sophisticated and fancy the breitling looks , im getting the 42 in the next coming weeks .

  • @randallhill7979
    @randallhill7979 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video Bruce, good comparison

  • @Dr.Gunsmith
    @Dr.Gunsmith ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful watch love the green bursting out of that thing 🙏

  • @low87dawg86
    @low87dawg86 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Beautiful. Laugh at me all you want but I really want the mint green 36mm.

  • @HandlewithcareVibes
    @HandlewithcareVibes ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree. I'm struggling to find the courage to buy it, too many cons.

  • @patricj951
    @patricj951 ปีที่แล้ว

    I usually find Breitling too messy for my taste and want a more clean design. But this model definitely looks good!

  • @fabiomelero2635
    @fabiomelero2635 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It was Breitling that got me into collecting watches. Yes, they use third party movements too, but the quality of the watch is a state-of-art. The construction and the finishing is in another level. You need to have a Breitling in your hands to get the feeling of the quality of it. It’s impressive. There’s a video on TH-cam showing the manufacturing of their case. If you watch it, you’ll understand my point. As the simplicity of the design, Breitling is following the trend of understating designs. Breitling is more about the wholeness than the movement it’s inside. I do not wear them anymore because I am old and I prefer to wear smaller and lighter watches, but I am still a big fan.

  • @inspectorchicken
    @inspectorchicken 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Considering buying one. Yes, the movement does not match the price but I feel like every watch has at least one major drawback and if they don't, then the price is.

  • @Ae073001
    @Ae073001 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've owned several Breitlings over the last few years and I like the brand, however, this release does seem lazy to me. They seem to be selling the name only because the watch itself lags far behind the competition...especially at that price. GS offers true GMTs with far better finishing. Heck my Monta Skyquest, which is in office GMT like this one, seems on par with this release at more than half the price. To many options out there to rest on one's name recognition.

  • @seanhickling7340
    @seanhickling7340 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Still nowhere near as lazy as Rolex but the weak minded are easily persuaded 😅

  • @derekbrettell8121
    @derekbrettell8121 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've tried the Breitling on at the AD and was quite disappointed. It's a winner on the spec sheet but just doesn't quite hit the mark in person. I always feel that their is always a superior alternative to every Breitling watch. Maybe one day they'll produce a real winner

  • @sirrus0379
    @sirrus0379 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thx for mentioning the date. I don't get why watchbrands still do this. For me a "bad" designed date is a knock off. Why put so much effort in a great watchdesign just to kill the overall experience with a white spot, that seeks attention all the time? A date should be subtle like in the Bell & Ross 03 line watches. Or it should be well integrated. Give it a frame, put it in the right spot, colormatch it to the dial.

  • @egza2062
    @egza2062 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The negatives are really funny. Sure the box is important, but you see it several times in your life. The watch quite daily. And I buy a watch if I like it, not because it has a super value for the price. Tudor looks really not luxury. Breitling hits my taste more than any other watch company. But I have a thin wrist and like this new thin watches. The butterfly clasp has to be on this band. Is there a possibility to make micro adjustment on a butterfly clasp? Never seen before. All in all a beautiful watch. My favorites are with grey and white dial. So I don’t really know now what to take, a date just or this one. Really stunning one.

  • @BadGuyDennis
    @BadGuyDennis ปีที่แล้ว

    I have talk to George Kern in person rather recently. And here is the things:
    First, Breitling is now working on a true in-house 3-hands movement. But the difficulties is not on the hardware itself, but more on strategic. i.e. With current capacity, it will squeeze out the production of B01 movement. So, should Breitling expand the manufacturing facilities? But the question to Breitling in particular is that it is very known for its chronographs, a simple 3-hands models actually didn't sold that much. If this new 3-hands movement only digested by Breitling solely, that would be hardly sustainable. What would be the market acceptance of this movement if it is going to be supplied to other watchmakers? Breitling is now try to figuring out.
    Second, he said in terms of hardware everything is ready about the adoption of anti magnetism, just have to sort out / wait for some legal or patent issues.
    Third, it is likely to have some serious complications next year to celebrate its 140 anniversary.

  • @benjaminvis
    @benjaminvis ปีที่แล้ว

    First I need to get off my chest that while this is one of the quieter and cleaner Breitlings, rather than pointing to alternatives with more heft and presence, I'd love a more subtle approach to this watch. I don't need GMT nor diver functionality, but since I'm in agreement on the base dial being beautiful and the bracelet being a highlight (what do you call this style bracelet again?), I would also add the nice reflections coming off of that bezel, it makes me feel that there is a really tasteful dressy sports watch hiding in there somewhere. Best Green dial? Well, certainly better than that Rolex. Not even competition. The dial actually reminds me of the bottle green Bravur BW003, which in the whole I'd still far prefer to this Breitling even if obviously a different market segment. Also it is useful naming greens from Straum and anOrdain.

    • @insomnia_boss
      @insomnia_boss ปีที่แล้ว

      The bracelet was inspired by military bullet links

  • @darrenjones2070
    @darrenjones2070 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It seems Breitling needs to step up their game and come down to earth prices. Especially when you can get the Tudor true gmt for less. Come on Breitling seriously. It's a nice looking watch and that green dial is superb.

    • @Bredes1
      @Bredes1 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      But Tudor are fat and does not look half as good

  • @jimlightanddark
    @jimlightanddark ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice vid, Bruce! I think Breitling is doing great things lately but I just never feel like they’re for me. They have a bodacious luxury vibe that doesn’t suit my style. Their case sizes also feel a bit big for me. I REALLY wish they’d do a mid-size 39-40mm Superocean Heritage. I’d probably go for that 🤓

  • @shipmate3577
    @shipmate3577 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I dislike most of the new Breitling models. The only thing that I like is the bullet bracelet.

  • @Slipsch
    @Slipsch ปีที่แล้ว

    I just wish that the datora is thinner with in-house movement.

  • @tev3009
    @tev3009 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the bracelet

  • @bigmacdaddy1234
    @bigmacdaddy1234 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would take the Breitling over the Tudor any day. It has a better fit & finish from end-to-end. On the Rolex forum, they are still complaining about the GMT date wheel on the Tudor not working right since inception until today. Rolex/Tudor never owned up to it and they can't seem to get it permanently fixed.

    • @AlphaConde-qy7vi
      @AlphaConde-qy7vi ปีที่แล้ว

      There are also ongoing issues with the newest Rolex 32XX movement, lol.

  • @Hundevater
    @Hundevater ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the chronomat a true GMT?

  • @albaraki
    @albaraki ปีที่แล้ว

    What do you mean that Tudor is a true GMT! Didn’t get it.

  • @cypritchard2311
    @cypritchard2311 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Beautiful watch.

  • @edkwon
    @edkwon ปีที่แล้ว

    Also the Traska Venturer GMT has a True GMT movement, is thinner than the Breitling with the same PR

  • @ThePurple1968
    @ThePurple1968 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The finishing of the watch is way over watches like Tudor, good though they are. This is also a nice comfortable 11mm thin 40mm with a screw down crown and a beautiful dial. There is not a lot in the market that competes with it. Lastly, there is no such thing as true GMT. The way the GMT works is up to the user. I prefer time change rather then hour change GMT.

  • @entroheat
    @entroheat ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Longines Zulu time less than 3k and although eta but only longines exclusive and 72 hrs reserve there is no way breitling selling this for good value

  • @evh4611
    @evh4611 ปีที่แล้ว

    I tried the gmt Breitling on couple of weeks ago. Being not a true gmt movement and the winding not feeling quality at all, i thought the very steep price was an absolute disgrace and an insult

  • @Tony-u2y4i
    @Tony-u2y4i ปีที่แล้ว

    They make attractive watches . The whole contentious issue of using eta movements in 5 and a half k watches is very valid . If they want to use generic movements I don’t have an issue but charge 3 and half grand max Add to this the very poor packaging .. I honestly think such actions do the brand such harm and often find it hard to take them seriously..

  • @einsaan
    @einsaan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Other than the price and a compromised GMT movement, I think watch looks great and the white date card actually compliments the green. As for the limited power reserve, if it's automatic and you wear it all the time then that also isn't that big of an issue. I would forgo these short comings for such a beautiful watch. It's breathtaking beautiful 😍

  • @maciejkluz
    @maciejkluz ปีที่แล้ว

    The thing about the price … they will come out next year with in house movements 3-4 hands it’s confirmed and I think they just trying to match the price to avoid the oris situation with their in house movement. No one is buying them as it’s a too big price jump at once

  • @jeejkee6471
    @jeejkee6471 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is one great looking watch!

  • @tiagodvt
    @tiagodvt ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah Breitling could be doing so much better. Their brand name, history and prestige are insanely big. But I mean....asking 5.5k for a GMT with pretty much a "basic" of-the-shelf movement with less than 40h of PR, a bracelet that doesn't even offer screws to size (not 100% sure on this one, please tell me if I'm mistaken), a clasp without the possibility of ANY adjustments (I mean...they even have great clasps on various other models, with on-the-fly adjustments, without the needs for any tools). When brands like Tudor are offering way better watches for way less money, better sized to my taste, I just see no point in getting a Breitling. And we can always add Omega to the mix - between getting this or a Seamaster, I know I'd get the latter without even thinking.

  • @mstv8849
    @mstv8849 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful wach, i hope my next one.

  • @Wanderingpyro
    @Wanderingpyro ปีที่แล้ว +3

    But that Breitling looks three times more expensive and just looks better but I can't afford neither one so somebody gave me the Tudor I would be very happy.

    • @SB-Kiwi
      @SB-Kiwi ปีที่แล้ว

      Loving my Seiko ssk003 personally.

    • @SB-Kiwi
      @SB-Kiwi ปีที่แล้ว

      Totally agree with you regarding the Breitling looking far superior as well.

  • @willee5348
    @willee5348 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish the bezel was a 24 hour bezel. I've never seen a steel bezel that's not a fixed bezel

  • @armandoflorini8315
    @armandoflorini8315 ปีที่แล้ว

    GMT 40 it looks perfect

  • @jeffkessel8288
    @jeffkessel8288 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This or Tudor mark xx. Both 40 mm.

  • @Dugger1991
    @Dugger1991 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!!! Can you compare it sbge257.

  • @MrZanzibar123
    @MrZanzibar123 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yup, just when the nice ones like yours start making me like the brand, they pull this stuff, losing a lot of trust among fans.

  • @joshuajuarez3471
    @joshuajuarez3471 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes. The Breitling is very pretty. I love green. Always lean to green watches. It for there heritage and history. I think they go t a little lazy. Especially for the price

  • @michaelriera6277
    @michaelriera6277 ปีที่แล้ว

    Breitling designs are beautiful. The movement, Connecticut Service Center, and box are not competitive in the luxury space.

  • @_DioBrando_
    @_DioBrando_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm not buying a Breitling until they bring back the wings and anchor logo.

  • @wristopia4101
    @wristopia4101 ปีที่แล้ว

    Breitling say that customers can request a standard box if they wish to have one.
    How realistic that is I'm not sure, but if its a dealbreaker I would imagine the AD would go get one PDQ as they would be mad not to!
    Breitling are not Lazy, they are being rude to their customers IMO

  • @theshadowman1398
    @theshadowman1398 ปีที่แล้ว

    There are only 3 Breitling models I really like: Natitimer, Superocean and Emergency. This model never really spoke to me.

  • @chrisa950
    @chrisa950 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Breitling are doing amazing things.

  • @L.A.C_Santos
    @L.A.C_Santos 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It’s a beauty, I love it.

  • @JamyRyals
    @JamyRyals ปีที่แล้ว

    I don’t understand why watch makers don’t engineer butterfly clasps with micro adjustment, it should be done.

  • @RegM86
    @RegM86 ปีที่แล้ว

    Strong resemblance to Grand Seiko GMT.

  • @serifdincer208
    @serifdincer208 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks amazing

  • @josephburton3232
    @josephburton3232 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Once again I think Breitling has completely lost their mind. This watch is using the same movement as my $700 Christopher Ward C65 GMT. Why would anyone buy this watch for almost $6,000 when you can get an Omega for the same price that is far superior?
    Clearly this watch was designed to take advantage of people who know nothing about watches.

    • @SonOvaSon
      @SonOvaSon ปีที่แล้ว

      IMO Breitling has better finishing than Omega