Hyman Roth was a powerful figure in the criminal underworld, and he played a significant role in the history of the Corleone family, but who was he really?
That deleted scene would have really helped a lot more in understanding where and how Roth was involved. The only info you get is when he tells Michael about the business he had with his father. It ends up keeping you guessing where he came from and what his exact involvement is to everything.
I think Michael's conversation with Johnny Ola and then the meeting later with Pentangeli explains very well who Roth is and what he represents. Seems like great screenwriting to me.
To see deleted scenes of the Godfather I and II, watch the Godfather Saga. Its both films combined as one, with added scenes and in chronological order.
Same with the scene cut from the first film when they’re debating who the traitor to Vito was, Clemenza or Paulie. You find out later who it was, but they don’t say how they find out, or even that Clemenza was suspected. Obviously you can’t have every scene shot included in the final film, but more thought needs to be given to what ones are deleted.
Question: I have not yet read Puzo's book, so there might be a straightforward answer to this, but is there any other evidence out there for Vito distrusting Roth? The main source for this is Frank Pantangeli (who also notes that Vito distrusted Roth because he was "a Jew") and despite his loyalties, should we really trust him as a thoroughly reliable character. Not that Pantangeli is a liar, but that his views might not reflect those of the Don.
Roth was not in the book and there was no indication that Roth had anything to do with Vito's activities during prohibition. The trucks Vito used to import liquor were from his olive oil business and not from anyone else. This guy is making up a ton of stuff in this video!
Hyman Roth did not appear in Mario Puzo's novel The Godfather, but he did appear in Marc Winegardner's novel The Godfather Returns. He was based on the real-life mobster Meyer Lansky for the script of The Godfather: Part II. I only mentioned the novel once in my video, when I discussed "The Story of Italian Bootleggers." Aside from that, everything is in the movie some scenes got deleted from the movie, but you can easily find them on TH-cam, or it was spoken in a conversation; I'm not inventing anything, and you can check it for yourself before accusing someone.
What's really weird is that two men tried to kill him and they were killed. Roth gets stabbed at the end but we don't know if he died or not. He might have lived and just got wounded.
The guy who posted this video never read the original book. In the book, Vito starts the olive oil business as an adjunct to his small time criminal enterprise in the neighborhood. This was started before prohibition. When Prohibition started he just started using his fleet of trucks to import liquor from Canada, expanding his criminal enterprise. There is nothing about Roth in the book.
You're accusing me of making things up, but it's you who's making assumptions, and I'm not sure why you're telling us that Haymen Roth isn't in the book when I never said he was. The only time I mentioned the novel was when discussing Vito's business, which is exactly what you're saying in the comment. You're being rude for no apparent reason, and you should try to relax a little.
Tell me what has movie consiglieri ever done to earn such disrespect.? You’ve never invited him to your home for a cup of coffee even though he makes these videos for your entertainment. And if it just so happens that an honest man like you should make enemies, Then they would become his enemies. Then they would fear you
Your father did business with Hyman Roth, he respected Hyman Roth, but he never trusted Hyman Roth. Nor his Sicilian messenger boy Junior Soprano who never had the makings of a varsity athlete.
In a 9 minute video, you kept two words and skipped all the interesting parts, including the prohibition era. It's not my fault if you can only retain two things at a time.
If this was based on Meyer Lansky, they have it all wrong. Lansky grew up in the Jewish ghetto of New York. He was a math whiz who got involved in dice games on the lower east side and figured out how to make huge profits. He was also violent. Watch Once Upon A Time in America.
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That deleted scene would have really helped a lot more in understanding where and how Roth was involved. The only info you get is when he tells Michael about the business he had with his father. It ends up keeping you guessing where he came from and what his exact involvement is to everything.
I totally agree with you
Those deleted scenes really put a lot of storylines together. Makes you really want to see a cut with everything left in.
I'm not sure why they cut that scene, which was only one minute long, when Clemenza introduced Roth to Vito.
You can see a lot of those cut scenes in The Godfather saga it’s just the first and second movie edited together to make one story.
I think Michael's conversation with Johnny Ola and then the meeting later with Pentangeli explains very well who Roth is and what he represents. Seems like great screenwriting to me.
"Vito made Hyman an offer he couldn't refuse"
Criminally underrated video.
Thank you.
Lee Strasberg was one of the finest actors in film. Very believable.
Lee Strasberg was mainly if not exclusively an acting teacher
Meyer Lansky, Financial Genius!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Barzini vs Hyman Roth
Hyman Roth was the villain in Godfather 2 because he put a vendetta on Michael for the death of Moe Green.
Godfather 2:
WOW!! Interesting, thanks for the insight /backstory.
I deserve some COOKIES?
Remember, Don Vito warned Michael about Roth, saying that never really trusted Roth.
Vito never warned Michael about Roth, it was Frankie Pentangeli who said Vito never trusted Roth.
no one remembers that thing that never happened
Video doesn’t really explain well how Roth and the Corleone family are affiliated
To see deleted scenes of the Godfather I and II,
watch the Godfather Saga. Its both films combined as one, with added scenes and in chronological order.
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Same with the scene cut from the first film when they’re debating who the traitor to Vito was, Clemenza or Paulie. You find out later who it was, but they don’t say how they find out, or even that Clemenza was suspected. Obviously you can’t have every scene shot included in the final film, but more thought needs to be given to what ones are deleted.
First view and Like...sweet
Great job
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Question: I have not yet read Puzo's book, so there might be a straightforward answer to this, but is there any other evidence out there for Vito distrusting Roth? The main source for this is Frank Pantangeli (who also notes that Vito distrusted Roth because he was "a Jew") and despite his loyalties, should we really trust him as a thoroughly reliable character. Not that Pantangeli is a liar, but that his views might not reflect those of the Don.
I've always wondered this myself. I too have never read the books so I dont know of any backstory suggesting Vito doesnt trust Hyman Roth.
I don't recall Roth appearing in the book at all. A lot of Vito's early days definitely did though
Literary license
Roth was not in the book and there was no indication that Roth had anything to do with Vito's activities during prohibition. The trucks Vito used to import liquor were from his olive oil business and not from anyone else. This guy is making up a ton of stuff in this video!
Hyman Roth did not appear in Mario Puzo's novel The Godfather, but he did appear in Marc Winegardner's novel The Godfather Returns. He was based on the real-life mobster Meyer Lansky for the script of The Godfather: Part II.
I only mentioned the novel once in my video, when I discussed "The Story of Italian Bootleggers." Aside from that, everything is in the movie some scenes got deleted from the movie, but you can easily find them on TH-cam, or it was spoken in a conversation; I'm not inventing anything, and you can check it for yourself before accusing someone.
Can you make a video about Peter Clemenza's death?
Yes, it's on my list
While Johnny Fontane is Frank Sinatra, who is Nino Valenti then?
@@mikeco7312 I always thought of Nino as Tony Bennet.
There was no heart attack ^^
Will you ever cover boardwalk empire?
What's really weird is that two men tried to kill him and they were killed. Roth gets stabbed at the end but we don't know if he died or not. He might have lived and just got wounded.
sorry anthony Roth got shot at the airport
Roth got shot
this is terrible analysis on every level lol
Do Clemenza and Tessio find out Vito killed Don Fanucci?
He killed him to get a good deal on the apartment
Michael botched that
The guy who posted this video never read the original book. In the book, Vito starts the olive oil business as an adjunct to his small time criminal enterprise in the neighborhood. This was started before prohibition. When Prohibition started he just started using his fleet of trucks to import liquor from Canada, expanding his criminal enterprise. There is nothing about Roth in the book.
You're accusing me of making things up, but it's you who's making assumptions, and I'm not sure why you're telling us that Haymen Roth isn't in the book when I never said he was. The only time I mentioned the novel was when discussing Vito's business, which is exactly what you're saying in the comment. You're being rude for no apparent reason, and you should try to relax a little.
Tell me what has movie consiglieri ever done to earn such disrespect.? You’ve never invited him to your home for a cup of coffee even though he makes these videos for your entertainment. And if it just so happens that an honest man like you should make enemies, Then they would become his enemies. Then they would fear you
Myer Lansky
He could have change his first name too.
Hyman, what does that make you think about?
Your father did business with Hyman Roth, he respected Hyman Roth, but he never trusted Hyman Roth. Nor his Sicilian messenger boy Junior Soprano who never had the makings of a varsity athlete.
I didn't get anything from this video, he was a mechanic suddenly a king maker.. Makes no sense
In a 9 minute video, you kept two words and skipped all the interesting parts, including the prohibition era. It's not my fault if you can only retain two things at a time.
If this was based on Meyer Lansky, they have it all wrong. Lansky grew up in the Jewish ghetto of New York. He was a math whiz who got involved in dice games on the lower east side and figured out how to make huge profits. He was also violent. Watch Once Upon A Time in America.