The HIDDEN Secret Behind the Meeting with Moe Greene...
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- What THEY DON'T Tell You about Michael Corleone's Meeting with Moe Greene....
This might be one of the most important scenes in the entire Godfather trilogy, Yet there are so many hidden details that most people, no matter how many times they watch, never seem to notice. This meeting has so much significance and symbolism that defines the events of the rest of the trilogy.
And to be honest at first glance, they aren't very obvious.
It was the first time we see Michael truly owning his new role but outside the family, the first time he was truly tested. We start really noticing that menacing look, those eyes full of pain and anger, that were now imprinted on his face. All the While still trying to keep it all together.
But Any reminisce of the old Michael died back in Sicily…
This was the new Godfather. So this meeting is a pivotal point in the entire trilogy, there is so much significance to what is being said that goes completely over people's heads. But don’t worry, this video will give you ALL its hidden secrets and unearth some of the most valuable gems from the Godfather trilogy that we can learn from and even start using in real life.
It’s a true godfather masterclass you NEED to understand.
But I have to warn you, This will change the way you view the godfather forever & connect the dots you never knew existed.
What Did Michael Know that Moe Greene Did Not?
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It's a Moe Greene Special if you know what I mean... 👀
In this video we get into everything YOU wanted to know about your favourite flamboyant casino owner, Moe Greene 🎲
But that's NOT all..
We will be uncovering the secret behind his real life counterpart, Bugsy Siegel, and that’s going to be its own insane roller coaster ride. As well as something that even all these years later, I still can not believe…
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I noticed Michael assuming his position in the family and exerting his strength, when he proposed to kill McClusky and Tattaglia. He commanded the room with his seated posture while talking to Sonny and Tom. They initially laughed. You know the rest.
I don’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings, but this is fiction written by Mario Puzo and Nicholas Cage’s uncle. I would like to know how they shot Moe Greene right in the eyeglasses.
What qualifies you to make "life lessons " from a Novel about the Mafia that indeed, bears no resemblance to the real thing anyhow?
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Notice that when Moe enters the room, Michael doesn’t stand up to shake his hand and just remains seated. Michael had no respect for Moe right from the very start.
True. Moe was a bully who respected no one and had obvious contempt for the Corleone family and I believe Michael had known this
so true.... also greatest movie of all time. it's all just so damn good
That was a sign of power. Michael had the power and wanted Moe to know it.
It was the director s idea
Wow! I never thought of it that way! Very good observation. Whenever I did a meeting, I waited to be asked to take a seat. I bet my bottom dollar Michael had secret people out there to report to him about what was going on. The one thing that Fredo did was that was wrong was that he spent more time being a Sex Machine than being a Businessman. He could have had his own steam and take his duties responsibly. Back home he was nothing but the Family Whipping Boy, Lackey, and his HR Skills were bad because he hired Paulie who backstabbed them.
Michael's metamorphosis from relatively innocent wide eyed optimist,to shrewd,cold and calculated "Family" man is one of the great character arc's in cinema history IMO.
he was NEVER portrayed as a wide-eyed optimist in the movie...in fact he was totally into the life from the beginning
@@jadezee6316 You are forgetting his dialogue at the wedding and prior to his meeting with Sollozzo. The book is even better in this regard.
Agreed!
@@jadezee6316 No, he wasn't. He was separate from the family and committed to life as a Marine and a fiancé to Kay. It was only after his father was shot that he entered the life.
@@KtotheGthat’s true he even told his woman that’s them that’s their life, it’s not me at the beginning. His evil stare perma imprinted on his face in part 2 is great acting he’s really playing a different Michael when the change occurs.
The problem Michael's enemies forgot is that he wasn't just a mafioso. He was a genuine warrior. He had learned to fight wars without the restraint that a Mafia boss would. He struck with a level of force that was intended to overwhelm his enemies as swiftly and fully as possible.
Well said! 👍
I believe because of this reason, it gave Michael the edge.
Marine, remember.
@@alancoe1002 That was my point. He's not just another Mafioso. He's a veteran Marine from WWII. He doesn't fight on their level.
YES!
Just noticed Michael doesn’t stand up to shake Moe’s hand. He remains relaxed, nonchalant, but eyes him suspiciously like he’s confirming the decision he already made. Total boss move.
I dont think most of us missed anything from this scene.
Having watched the 3 movies about 60 times.
The greatest plus was exposing Barzini.
Mo Greene was always going to die with Michael around.
We already knew Fredo was a liability but had his minor usages.
@@Vibesman2021....yes, useful idiots come in handy.
Moe just walked in so fast no time to stand up.
The moment the car bomb went off, Michael was a completely different man
You don’t think it was when McClusky hit him because he was being payed off? Or when he killed him and the Turk?
Nope. It was the hospital all along
The hospital started it. The car bomb finished it.
@@georgeolschewski4651 👍🏾
Exactly! Michael came back from Sicily as a new man. Al Pacino did many great roles, but was immortalized as Micheal Corleone.
Don’t take sides with anyone against the Family again. Ever.
Love that line 💚
Ever!
I know it was you Fredo. You broke my heart.
@@sammylava I didn’t know there was going to be a hit Mike. I swear to God I didn’t know there was going to be a hit.
"You don't come to Vegas and talk to a guy like Moe Greene LIKE THAT!!!"
It’s not pain and suffering in Michael’s eyes. It’s resolve and power.
That resolve forged and tempered by his experiences in combat and personal tragedy.
Actually, I personally see moe greens mention of the godfather being sick and the corleones not having "that kind of muscle anymore" was the first sign he did not fear the corleones. Which is why he was shopping around with another family and publicly beating a corleone. He knew he could smack Fredo because he had Brazini to back him and he didn't imagine the corleones regaining their lost power.
I agree.
And also b/c Fredo was kind of a bish
@koko40800 Well, yes, but he's the corleons' bish. If anyone is going to smack around a corleon, it's going to be another corleon. Noone else has any business doing so, as it would be a public display of disrespect and send a message that the corleons are neither to be feared or untouchable.
I was ? why Moe even thought about selling the casino? How diid its sale even enter the conversation? before Michael brought it up.
@@patrickslevin6424 that was Moe's biggest mistake more than anything else. In fact, Moe put a big target on Barzini's back just by mentioning him.
"They talk when they should listen" - Vito Corleone
Looks like Michael was the only one paying attention when the don was giving them this lesson.
*Yes, even though Michael wasn't present in the Sollozo meeting, You get the point.
I think Tom was also well learned at the right side of Vito. You learn this when he was trying to cool off Sonny after their Don was shot. In fact he was there at Vito's side a lot longer than Michael and possibly taught Michael a thing or two also.
100% truth…
Fredo stayed quiet.
Remember before the meeting that Fredo said that Moe never mentioned selling the casino. When Moe admits to making a deal with Barzini, this tells Michael that Moe purposefully hid things from them and that Fredo isn't smart or observant.
Oh, damn.....
Pretty much. Michael already knew Fredo's shortcomings. He made Fredo part of his overall strategy, pretty brilliantly. He never let Fredo know what he was thinking, and he had spies all over the place, reporting back everything Fredo and/or Moe Green did or said.
I think Green's bullying physical abuse of Fredo wasn't something Green or Fredo knew that Michael knew about. I think that was a shock revelation that hit a nerve. But the admission Michael expected to extract was extracted. I think Moe didn't realize he was at Michael's mercy and on trial for his life. I'm not sure if Michael would've extended mercy if Moe had shown respect (and a cool-headed appreciation for the situation he was in).
I wish I remembered the chronology better. Just how soon was the christening after the meeting with Moe Green? It says Neri hit Green a month after the meeting with Michael. It also says Neri killed Barzini. The movie shows both killings taking place during the baptism. Are they different? I guess it'll be fun finding out, with another watch or read.
@@harrymills2770 in the book Moe was killed before teh later killings.
that's the truth .
@@harrymills2770 I've been listening to the audio book (YT has several), the timing is not specified, but Neri does the job on Green and takes a vacation before doing the job on Barzini. lol
What's often overlooked is Tom Hagen' s presence at the table with Both Vito and Michael. I love how he reads their adversaries faces, and gives Vito and Michael his 'sideye' facial expressions in response. Like a boxer 's cornerman.
By who? Who overlooks it?
Did you until you noticed it? Why do you= others?
@@Cowards_always_stop_replyingAll right, let me restate it then. I've never come across a discussion of it, in 50 years of being a fan of the best film of all time. I doubt if you even caught it. You just decided to flag my observation, being the attention whore, you seem to be. Very well, then.
@@Cowards_always_stop_replyinghahaha this guys nik 😂 sometimes people get tired of replying bruh😂😂😂
Tom Hagan was the best consigliere ever ✨
Michael was not a naive school boy. He was a US Marine who fought in the Pacific and had seen his share of death and suffering. He also knew full well his Father's world as shown by the scene at the wedding when he tells Kate the Luca Brasi story and the band leader. I agree this scene shows Michael had asserted himself as the Boss and was the one in control of the room, the conversation, and the outcome.
One of my absolute favorite scenes from the entire trilogy. The actor who played Moe Greene did an amazing job at portraying him.
Alex Rocco
@@LuisALaboy Great actor.
@@LuisALaboy
He was a true gangster..
He was a member of a Boston crew in the 1960's. Got in some hot water & ran to West coast & became an actor
@@bhall4996 Hollywood's full of criminals so what's one more?! 😆
Absolutely brilliant
The moment Moe Green threatened to work and cooperate with Barzini, at that moment Moe Green signed himself a death warrant. There was no way he could get out anymore. Michael Corleone played this fantastic. Fredo Corleone's role is not crucial. The aforementioned Barzini was crucial and it was practically a death sentence for Green.
Don't forget Hyman Roth and his comments about Moe's death. Hyman used Moe as a pawn (letting his death pass without revenge) to ensure his Cuban strategy would deliver. Also, Hyman and Moe were Jewish where family ties are very strong.
@@stevekoutros9358 Jewish ties are not just close family but also cultural. They do business with each other and help each other out in bad times and good. They stick togeather like glue even if they don't know each other personaly. My uncles' son's wifes brother kind of thing. Young Vito was sent to his family in the US. There are many groups like this in the world but the jewish community is one of the oldest and the best known.
@@stevekoutros9358 Hyman Rith raised Moe Greene and brought him into the criminal world when Moe was a teenager, That is revealed later in the Godfather 2.
Fredo was weak, playing weak only to strike at the right time is a good strategy
@@aodh5966Good point.
What isn't mentioned in the comments is how Moe Greene himself inadvertently confesses to stealing. All Michael said was, "your casino is losing money". Which could be true for any number of reasons. But it was Moe who gets angry and shouts back, "you think I'm skimming off the top!?". Michael never accused him of any of that. It was Moe who brought it up and blurted it out in a very defensive manner. That was all Michael needed to see right there.
right??? i was confused too. like…why did you say all that 😂😂😂
.. well yeah,, I mean,, skimming is what they do in casinos right? I took it to mean,, Moe is saying you're getting your share what are you complaining about? There's times to be a badass and guys to be a badass to,, and Moe wasn't just courting barzini,, he was dancing to the tune of his old friend and business partner Hyman Roth...
Roth isn't mentioned in TG of course so,, we have to assume Moe was getting his balls from barzini.... And Moe Green being a true player in his own right,, was probably disgusted at the behavior and deportment of Fredo, and mistakenly misjudged the entire Corleone family on that.. and CAN YOU BELIEVE the way that Fredo punked for Moe when things got a little tense?
I'm absolutely sure that Sonny the way he was written into the story would have immediately jumped out of his chair and mortally beaten Fredo with his own shoes... Michael of course was cool as a cucumber the whole time, but when he looked at Fredo and then looked back at Moe, it was almost like, I don't even want to think about it...
If I were to have been the director, I would have put in an insert of Tom Hagen's face when he saw Fredo do that, going from urgent concern to absolutely horrified... Tom glancing over at Michael as if he's looking at a five stick dynamite car bomb half a second from going off...
And if I can be forgiven another personal observation, Frank Sinatra AKA Johnny Fontaine, looking like he was about to throw up on his shoes and like he wished he was anywhere else....... Yeah right, Frankie did it his way, he should have sang it "I did it SAM GIANCANA'S way" lol......
THAT'S when Mike just concluded the deal, I know you've seen it too but it was just weird how it went from, the chef cooked special and there's chips for you downstairs,, to Moe threatening the entire Corleone family... And Mike just sitting there the whole time,, already planning Moe's demise and trying to control himself for his word to his brother...... Personally I don't know how he did it,, cold as space... I suppose seeing mortar rounds and machine gun fire killing your men on a Pacific Beach might have something to do with it......
And isn't it strange,, we talk about these people as if they were flesh and blood... Theoretical characters so multifaceted that even the medium of literature or motion picture can't truly bring it out...... And threads like this will go on into eternity.......
This is one of the top 3 most powerful scenes. It was intense. Mafia Jews v Mafia Sicilians.
Mor showed his hand. Big mistake.
It's a great scene. One of my favorites is when Michael is talking to Fredo after telling Fredo he knows he betrayed him. Fredo is sitting down, all sunken in the chair , Michael going over to the window. The whole conversation gives me chills.
Hello, I hope you're safe over there? I hope this year brings happiness, prosperity, love , and peace all over the world . I would love us to be good friends in honesty and in trust so as time goes on it will bring something great for us in the future, hope you don't mind? I'm Frank Lange from Brooklyn New York, where are you from if I may ask?
I was practically crying. Fredo was looking for something he could never have.
Yeah, it's a well acted and the pace of it (as if l know anything about directing movies lol)keeps the audience engaged till the end!
That scene had the film crew and Producers in awe of Cazales performance slumped in that chair while Michael, looking out the glass wall window, with the questioning.
“You took Freddie in because the Corleone Family bankrolled your casino, and the Molinari Family on the Coast guaranteed his safety. Now we're talking business, let's talk business.”
Always loved this line. Adds depth to the world by mentioning the Molinari family. God I love this film.
Great film and also an already long film but I wish they did a bit more “showing” than just “telling”. I just about understood the first film after reading the book but I needed many TH-cam videos and Quora threads to fully understand the nuances of the second film
Who would the Molinari Family be? Is it the LA Crime Family?
@@theportugueselegend, yes.
I loved how the book got into detail about the Molinari family, and what they did for Fredo and all.
@@GABRIELA-ACEVEDO.What they did ?
This is why the godfather 1 and 2 are two of the greatest movies ever there are so many layers to them
Clemenza's wife stated to him as he exited the house" don't forget the canollies" whatever they are...
@@daviddavis3389canolies r Italian pastries
"I talked to Barzini", that's the line that Michael needed to hear and the one that sealed Moe's fate
It was said by Darth Vader
Moe Green taking a round in the eye while on a massage table...was one of the most shocking / unforgettable scenes to me when i first watched this movie as a young man. Pure brut violence.
John Cazale's role as Fredo was amazing. It's relatively straightforward to play a heavy, but portraying a coward takes some real skill to make it look realistic. A fantastic actor.
Also, did anyone also notice how shocked Moe looked when he realised Michael found out he had “straightened out” fredo?
Well....Fredo was banging cocktail waitresses 2 at a time....
Its funny too.... "straightening somebody out" is another way of saying "making" somebody. Michael Franzese and others refer to the ceremony of becoming a made man as getting sttaightened out.
Fredo was the son of a Don, and a made man. Moe knew he was likley dead.
Michael was at his happiest when he married Apollonia in Sicily but after her tragedy all his innocence was gone and he turned cold stone
Never to forget never to forgive.
Duh
no, he was never innocent, he was a card carrying us marine who served with honour, the movie glosses over the fact that he was basically a killer from his time in the pacific fighting the japanese, he wasnt promoted and given medals for being a nice guy.
@@maddon001 lol really. Michael probably killed more men than everybody in the family combined. Everybody acting like he just got back from a pussy tea party
@@maddon001 War isn't nice. You do what you need to do to stay alive. It was his upbringing that sealed his fate. The sins of the father sort of thing. His stay in Italy and the death of his wife opened his eyes to the real world as he saw it. Evil and dangerous.
This gave me some strong insight about exposing anger. Michael game was cold he showed us that looking weak doesn't mean you're weak. That advantage made the other families put their guards down. He could've been a detective or top ranking FBI agent like the cigarette man in X-files or created his own government agency. Michael could've done a million things with his talent.
Exactly 💯
It's the same story in so many cases! I think of real-world Michael Francese as an example. That guy could've easily been CEO, High Rank Military Officer, etc.
Although I've seen the scene many times, I didn't quite realize that Moe showed his hand so well that it bought him a mob execution. Your points are well made. It also helps one see the subtleties that Francis Coppola presented us with in this great movie.
In this review, you missed the disrespect Michael showed Moe by NOT standing when greeting him and shaking his hand. ALWAYS stand when shaking another man's hand.
I like how you tie in the laws of power and stoicism. Thank you for a great analysis
Thank You for watching 💯
*Treat everyone you meet with kindness & respect. Some people have a DEMON living inside of them waiting on an excuse to be released.*
When they shake hands, even though Michael is seated, he has the upper hand. That's subtle.
Excellent video, but you left something HUGE out. Right before Moe Greene walks in, Michael pigeonholed Johnny Fontaine and asks him to sign a contract with the Corleone family's casino operations. Michael CLEARLY was not going ro leave Vegas without gaining control. Johnny's reaction is pretty telling as well. He just looks over towards Moe, signs and books out of there. He had been around the Corleone family long enough to know that something was going to down and the farther he was away from it, the better!
At 5:43, you can see Johnny sitting between Michael and Tom. He was silently but openly declaring where his loyalties lie. He may have been hesitant when he was handed the contract, but he made the right choice by signing it, gave the right answer, and did the right thing by sitting where he sat at the end of the scene.
Moe wasn't in the room yet when Michael put the contract in front of Johnnie
Alex Rocco played a great Mo Green.
Michael tells Moe Greene "You're just unlucky" in reference to skimming off the top. Yet, Moe Green was about to become more unlucky and didn't pick up on the veiled threat. Michael played Moe into the desired trap.
"You goddamn guineas crack me up". Was all over after that
This guy has the best voice for Documentaries
Yus!!!
Alex Rocco aka Alex Petricone Jr was perfect to play Moe Green from his involvement in the Boston Irish gang wars and then was trained by the great Leonard Nimoy himself. Glad he got outta the life and into acting so we got to see his great performance.
He played a Jew very believably, not exaggerated..
@@marksisto900 he just looked so relaxed while doing his role like it came natural and I agree definitely not exaggerated all
@@marksisto900 This film had Jews playing Italians (James Caan, Abe Vigoda) and Italians playing Jews
Wow…. You revealed so many secrets no one knew about! You did a great job by analyzing these scenes that looked so simple to the rest of us. Thank you so much!
Thank you 🌹💯
For me the scene in the kitchen where Michael says that he will kill Solluzzo and the cop McCluskey, is where the transition starts. At that point he goes from being the little brother not involved in the family to convincing all the others that he is prepared to kill those in his way. And he does say at that point that it is not personal, just business. He also convinces the others that by using the media to expose a corrupt cop, perhaps the pressure against the family will be lessened and their power solidified. Even though he was far from running the family for a while yet, I always consider that scene as one of the major turning points.
It’s unfortunate the movie left this quote out from the book during that scene “Tom, don't let anybody kid you. It's all personal, every bit of business. Every piece of shit every man has to eat every day of his life is personal. They call it business. OK. But it's personal as hell. You know where I learned that from? The Don. My old man. The Godfather. If a bolt of lightning hit a friend of his the old man would take it personal. He took my going into the Marines personal. That's what makes him great. The Great Don. He takes everything personal Like God. He knows every feather that falls from the tail of a sparrow or however the hell it goes? Right? And you know something? Accidents don't happen to people who take accidents as a personal insult.”
It absolutely was personal for Michael.
When they assassinated Sonny and so brutally, Michael started to change. Thats when he decided to kill.
Yeah, the Barzini slip was definitely a game ending mistake. Especially since Don Vito had pretty certainly already informed Michael what he had discovered about Barzini being behind it all.
The lessons you're serving up are 100%, but oh so hard to master.
Great video, please make more of these!!! Michael sets the tone from the start with Moe. Doesn't stand up to shake his hand. Another key with the transition of power from Don Vito to Michael is the appeal Fredo makes to Tom about trying to work things out by talking to the Don when Moe is about to storm out. Bad move by Fredo, but Hagen makes it clear in front of everyone that Michael is now in charge.
Sub text aside (although this gives an insight into Fredo) my favorite detail is the little skip and dance John Cazale does as Michael enters the room and the band play, 'for he's a jolly good fellow'. It's brillinat acting my Cazale. The hesitancy shows he's aware that Michael will not be pleased before Michael even sits down. This points to the little meet and greet being Moe's idea in the first place.
Came for The Godfather, stayed for the life advice. Nice vid 🤌🏼
Moe Greene & Fredo made the same mistake...spoke too much.
• Moe Greene bragging about his deal with Barzini.
•Fredo's absent mindedness in Havana, where he openly spoke of his previous meetings with Hyman Roth & Johnny Ola.
Dammmmnnnnnn. This movie gets deeper every goddamn time I watch a video from your channel. 🥂🥂🥂
Both were out of their league. Most people are mediocre and like the Don said: women and children can be careless, not Men!
Don't forget, film has hidden flaws
Don't forget, film has hidden flaws
Don't forget, film has hidden flaws
Don't forget, film has hidden flaws
Thank you for the video. Had to listen twice AWESOME
Picking my favorite scene from this trilogy is like trying to pick the best cup of water from a river. There's just too much and it's all good. Keep making these videos. They're so good and analytical
The true master conducts all his affairs with perfect equilibrium -Yagyu Munenori
🎣DON'T be a Fredo
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From what I heard about him and cocktail waitresses I wouldn't mind being Fredo for a day 🤣🤣
Or screw up like Greene.
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"Sure he flys off the handle once in a while but he doesn't mean nothing by it"...
@@bhall4996 I love how Moe shoots Fredo down here.
@@bhall4996 Famous last words.
More moe greene vids please. He’s a fascinating character and the mobster who inspired him is even more so. I’m even going to be seeing Siegel’s grave in Hollywood this week.
@stefanfilipovits21
If you are ever in Vegas you need to go downtown to the El Cortez. There is a mural of Bugsy Siegel on one of the outside walls. I took a picture with it. It's been a while but I believe it is still there.
@@juancervantes4085 I believe there’s also a really great steakhouse named after hun & Meyer lansky in Vegas too. I’d love to see that!
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"I'm Moe Green..!!"
Moe Greene is actually based on Moe Sedway and Gus Greenbaum not Siegel
I learned so many lessons from this and I will be using them in my private and work life. Thank you very much!
Your production quality has really gotten slick. A pleasure to watch while listening to your great analysis
The mob and the Godfather never cease to interest, and your commentary on it is the same. Great video
Appreciate it 🌹💯
The Way you edit the whole vídeo 🏆
Really appreciate it 🌹
Just amazing! These videos are so well done. Keep up the great work!
It is an iconic and powerful scene, as much of the Godfather is. Yet it is the first time Michael is truly flexing his influence and Moe Greene doesn't seem to realise how bad it is for him. I don't know how real it is, Michael would know that Fredo was being pushed around and that Greene was under the impression that the Corleones were in rapid decline: from a movie perspective, it is brilliant because it raises the film's tension up a notch. Michael seemingly outflanked is speaking from a position of strength, Fredo is put in his place, and Moe Greene is exposed by the Godfather in waiting.
🔥So many gems in your videos 🤝🏾💯
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Michael Corleone is like Gus Fring. Both are cold and calculating, they are especially terrifying when they show their anger through their eyes and facial expressions but in a calm relaxed tone
Nah they are nothing a like. Michael would have never let Heisenberg win. He would have dispatched him before Heisenberg could make his move.
@@fredontiveros1037 On that note, what allow Gus to lose agaainst Heisenberg, in your opinion? I think we all agree that have the same level of hardheartness that if they know what Heisenberg is planning, Heisenberg will be gone - so it's more of skill issue. What is missing in Gus that Michael have?
@@JestersageI believe that Gus preferred seeing someone suffer when he could. He saved Don Salamanca in hopes of getting revenge instead of just letting it end there and then. His instinct kicked in and performed the necessary CPR when he had witnesses to be able to state he wasn't responsible for the death of he didn't immediately jump in there.
On the other hand, Micheal preferred not to play with his food.
@@A_real_Ha_So Right. So basically, if Gus is as decisive as Michael, Gus will still keep Salamanca alive, but only until his visit where he gloated about the death of Salamanca's family.
Basically, Michael will be the one that serve a cold revenge dish - but never left someone start making their own.
@@A_real_Ha_SoNice analogy 👍
This scene isn’t just iconic it is a masterclass in acting. Plus your analysis/breakdown is spot on thanks for the life lessons you said in this video by the.
I LOVE THIS VIDEO!!!!!!!!!!!! Seeing this makes me want to watch The Godfather again with a big bowl of pasta!!
You think it was coincidence that Moe G was shot in the eye? That was how Bugsy was shot. Good production detail
Bugsy was actually sitting on his couch with his back to the window when someone walked up and machine gunned him. One of the bullets went thru the back of his head came out his eye socket and sent his eyeball across the room but the common incorrect belief was that he was shot like Moe Greene.
Always love your Godfather trilogy videos about the characters and Laws. The First Godfather will always be the best one 😊! If Moe would've paid more attention to what Roth was teaching and showing him, he would have not gotten killed by Michael's attack and ended up making a deal with him instead. But, Roth told Michael in Part 2 that even though Moe invented Vegas and was a good earner and friend, he also was loud and always ran his mouth when he shouldn't.
Well said. I think Mo was done because he was skimming (too loud and defensive, even though Michael barely hinted at it) and was bullying Fredo constantly. Plus he tipped his hand with working with Barsini behind the scenes.
Based on Bugsy Siegel & Meyer Lansky
I love how you love this movie trilogy so much and the time and effort you put in to making this ,and the other videos dedicated to The Godfather!
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Sonny let his emotions get the best of him. That's what his father was trying to tell him. Never tell anybody what you're thinking outside the family. Ever. That's why he told Mike that Sonny was just a bad Don. Vito already knew that Fredo was too weak to head the family if he passed away. Mike learned the most from his father. Mike always had a calm, show no emotion swag about himself. He was hard to figure out. Which is halfway scary. In A Bronx Tale, C asked Sonny was it better to be loved or to be feared.
Fredo pulls out a chair for Moe Green while the bodyguard places his fist in his other hand, meaning Fredo is intimidated by Green and his henchman thinks they are in charge. Also, when Tom stated that Michael was the head of the family is that Michael says goes. Johnny knew he was now under the thumb of Michael and was stuck performing at the hotels but knew his place end when to not say anything once Moe Green entered the room.
I’m not sure that I’d consider Johnny “stuck” performing in Vegas. If he’s the analog of Frank Sinatra in the films, he still has a massive career in movies and recording. Mike just wants him to come to Vegas a few times a year to “show his appreciation” for the Don and the Family.
@@robertbusek30 True, but he really cannot say no can he?
@@TheNASCARJeff True, it is a “command performance,” but one that isn’t going to stand in the way of his career, like the contract with the bandleader did.
Love this series... These principals translate to so many applications in life and business.
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This was phenomenal keep doing the work!
I enjoy this channel so much, you literally unravel things I never knew existed in Godfather. Plus your "laws of power" playlist is so dope, can't wait for further videos on that theme.
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Honestly, I thought this scene was Michael was testing Moe Green. He knew Moe was likely betraying the family, He got Moe to prove his guilt. And it showed the family was in the precarious position. Michael (and Vito) was playing the long game and baiting their enemies. They had slowly rebuilt their power base, but they were still walking a tightrope. So Michael's moves were dangerous but they had the possibility of eliminating their enemies and bringing the family to new heights.
Aside from giving us a more in-depth understanding of the various points in "The Godfather" movie...many of them not immediately apparent...you provided us with some very thoughtful ideas about handling situations and people that we may encounter in our daily lives, and how we can successfully maneuver through them. Not letting our emotions necessarily guide us, but our inner wisdom.
You don't need to be in the situations of the "Godfather" to see this wisdom. It can be applied in everyday situations. Thank you.
Keep these coming…great stuff!
Excellent!! So glad I found your channel & insight..
They made him more of a soldier than any army could ever do.
True. Mo could only have behaved like that towards Michael if he felt someone had his back. This must have been Barzini but it could have been anyone. The party that Mo Green thought would cover him must have been a strong one. That is the only conclusion that Michael needed. He read from Mo's fall-out that Mo was a traitor and gave money from the casino to somebody else. The confession about Barzini was an unexpected bonus.
I got the impression it was Hyman Roth who had his back and it was Roth who convinced Credo to set up Michael's assassination attempt. He was pivotal in Las Vegas, New York, Miami, and Cuba.
Sorry, Fredo not Credo.
Thank you for this great essay!
Great analytics! Appreciate all the nuances you draw out! Keep up the great work.
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Moe was ambitious. It was the Corleones who gave him the funds to start a business. Therefore, the Corleones own the business.
But it’s Greene who knows the casino business and the territory of Las Vegas, which was brand new. He thought that this would protect him from his old pals back East. It didn’t…
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Yea and he could have been still alive if he knew his place. He knew a lot about casinos, therefore, he is best to work under Michael. But he blew it.
@@Riri-oj1zs As I said elsewhere, the real tragedy was that Fredo really could have made something of himself out in Nevada. In Vegas, he was out from under the shadow of his father and older brother learning a new aspect of the business. If he had kept his nose clean and really studied Moe’s approach (while remaining loyal to the family, of course), he could have had something “on his own” like he always wanted. As it was, Fredo completely misused this opportunity, which eventually doomed him.
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Excellent video and analysis 👏
Great video and thank you for the lessons.
Damn I’ve never seen “no views” on TH-cam when I go to watch a video.
These lesson and analysis videos are terrific. They provide a wealth of information that is useful and show a different way of viewing the trilogy. Keep doing them.
I was making g my bones when you were a snot nose kid dating cheerleaders Michael..
Love the videos and the lessons keep em coming
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It was Moe who tries to belittle Michael first, telling him about the food and the dancers as if Michael was still a kid that he could persuade with those kind of things, when Michael was there for business. Also, Moe tells Michael “and your credit is good” as if Michael needed his approval. You can tell Michael didn’t like it and gives it right back to Moe with “My credit good enough to buy you out?” Brilliant!
You gotta do a video of Michaels hitmen💪🏾
We do: One about Al Neri and One about Rocco Lampone
Al Neri: th-cam.com/video/R8ZzZLmcYLw/w-d-xo.html
Rocco: th-cam.com/video/5j8UwqJTxVg/w-d-xo.html
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I love the Godfather movies but I read something recently that made me hate it's director Francis Ford Coppola. In the 80's one of Coppola's director friends Victor Salvo was convicted of raping a 13 year old boy. The boys name is Nathan Winters and was a child actor in one of his movies. When Salvo was arrested they found video produced by Salvo with disgusting crimes being committed. Francis Ford Coppola hired his friend the best attourney money can buy and Salvo only served around a year in prison. Coppola then pulled strings to let Salvo back into Hollywood and Salvo directed the hit movie Jeepers Creepers. When asked about their relationship Coppolla said "They were both young and not that far different in age". The boy was 13 and Salvo 30.
Damn never knew that
Love your analyzes & references to get lessons for our daily living 🙏
You can learn a lot about people by probing what makes them angry. Anger almost always reveals a weakness and/or vulnerability.
loved it! yes we want more lessons
A totally kick ass video CM! I have so much fun watching these and seeing how you breakdown the power dynamics of TGF by way of the 48 laws, Sun Tzu and Nicolo Machiavelli..as well as others. The key here is Michael always stayed cool and let his opponents get emotional, when one gets emotional they'll make rash moves and telegraph what they're going to do, and give up what they're actually thinking. "A wise general keeps his opponents in ignorance of his plans"--Sun Tzu. Always a great pleasure coming here, that's for sure...more videos CM!
Appreciate your continued support @nagone11 🌹
Happy to hear you enjoyed it
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Great video, great narraration. Thanks.
First time here, i really enjoyed this! You did a really great job and my favorite takeaway was the line about anyone you allow to anger you becomes your master. Really good stuff! Thank you for this and keep up the awesome content!
Love these videos. Keep them coming
More please this fabulous and the lessons can be used even now in life. It's been a month so can you release the next one please. Thank you
This was actually a better video about this scene than I thought it was going to be!. Very detailed and insightful.
Michael had the 4 basic stoic virtues. Temperance, Courage, Wisdom and Justice.
Sonny was the intellectual/ shrewd genius in the operation, however he was too hotheaded..
No Sonny wasn't. Tom had to talk him down from going immediately to war after the Don was shot. He listened to reason - for a while. Also, after the second time Connie was beaten by her husband Sonny should have reasoned it was a setup. Shrewd genius - Sonny? Hah. The brains of the outfit besides the Don was Tom.
He was also a ruthless psychopath, but ok
I love this channel. The lessons I’ve learned from these breakdowns and my newly completed MBA program have me viewing things in a different way.
This is an interesting video! First one I've seen from this channel. You've earned a new subscriber!
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very interesting concepts you bring up, hope you bring up more i may need to start taking notes
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16:42 - Love the random shot from The Dark Knight here!
Seriously, another great video! I’d love to see one on Siegel/Greene. Also, could you consider doing a video on the movie Donnie Brasco? I think it’s an incredibly underrated film.
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Great video! Beautifully done. I love the explanation of the subtle details into lessons.
But I must say, I did get all the strategic nuances before the video. A consistent theme throughout is that anyone who breaks and loses their cool doesn’t make it. Sonny, Wolts, Roth, Moe, Carlo…etc. “Never let anyone outside the Family know what you’re thinking!”
@@MajinLowenky Your'e joking, right?
Boy, have I missed a lot! I did not understand that scene, even the part about Green's dealings with Barzini. And that should have been obvious. It gives me more respect for the intelligence of the Michael character, especially for his fitness for his assumption of that godfather position. Thanks.
"Do you know who I am?? I'm Moe Green!! I was making deals when you were still going out with cheerleaders!!"