Cry of Fear - How to play co-op (Hamachi tutorial)

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  • @kabibi8010
    @kabibi8010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +491

    The king returns.

  • @mimos6052
    @mimos6052 3 ปีที่แล้ว +728

    I knew you were still around but digging out cry of fear for a coop tuto is absolutely magical for me!
    Even to these days, cry of fear is STILL the best free horor game on steam.

    • @randymarsh4748
      @randymarsh4748 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Free? No, its the best horror game ever created

    • @mimos6052
      @mimos6052 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@randymarsh4748 free because we don't see much free horror game around steam. But i agree with you, this one is an old artifact of the past but its the best horror
      game

    • @melvin9071
      @melvin9071 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@randymarsh4748 yea no, Silent Hill my dude

    • @Superlegra144
      @Superlegra144 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      can u help me

    • @vertimane
      @vertimane 2 ปีที่แล้ว

  • @crazyjaydon6378
    @crazyjaydon6378 3 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    Real happy to see you guys still around, Cry of Fear and Afraid of Monsters were the games that got me into the survival horror genre as well as doing indie dev
    Always looking forward to seeing what you guys will make next!

  • @codaboi138
    @codaboi138 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    This tutorial was actually my gate way into Cry of Fear. I was watching old Jerma and Star_ videos and came across their Cry of Fear Co-Op play through. It made me want to try a game with a friend for nostalgic reasons. I always really, really loved the art direction of the game and wanted to try it. After we played the Co-OP campaign, I decided to try the single player. That changed my life for the better I think.
    Maybe it seems silly to some, but I got a message from Cry of Fear that really helped me reframe my own personal struggles through the game play in particular. Maybe it was me reading too much into the meaning of the game, but it either way, it's helped me immensely. I've probably left many comments in this same vein on this channel, but big thanks to the devs, you made something genuinely legendary. A total masterclass in psychological horror.

    • @synthnation9857
      @synthnation9857 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      that's not silly at all, every story can touches our feelings in many different ways. it's all an experience that has you invested in it in some ways, wheter if it's good or bad.
      sometimes it can give us a tips, hints or even some form of way to look at life in many different ways too, like how you said it helps you through the tough times of yours :)

    • @RussianBear42069
      @RussianBear42069 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      JERMA AND STAR MENTIONED!!!
      WHAT THE FUCK IS AN UNFUNNY TH-camR🗣️🗣️🗣️❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️

  • @IloveSatyrs9191
    @IloveSatyrs9191 3 ปีที่แล้ว +225

    Andreas Rönnberg you deserve all the possible recognition I love Cry Of Fear I love your music and I would like to meet you in person, thank you for existing, you are the king of true terror, you may not read my comment but I send you a big hug from Mexico 🇲🇽❤️

    • @godzilla_with_a_microwave3945
      @godzilla_with_a_microwave3945 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well look at that..:)

    • @juanpaVlz
      @juanpaVlz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He sent you a heart, he read it.

    • @koshhj5933
      @koshhj5933 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Supermexican Man gives a Heart, Andreas gives a heart back too, pretty wholesome don't you think?

    • @pavlezaharijevic4881
      @pavlezaharijevic4881 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@koshhj5933 how to save in coop game

    • @koshhj5933
      @koshhj5933 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pavlezaharijevic4881 ....what?
      But you can't really save in Co op, if (all of) you die you just restart from the beginning of the room.

  • @AnthonyMaverick
    @AnthonyMaverick 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Glad that cry of fear is still kicking especially in 2020, can't wait to see what else you talented guys will release on to us in the future.

  • @PliskinIndustries
    @PliskinIndustries 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just recently got back into cry of fear to relive the easier days, nice to see this channel is still alive

  • @Zetemon
    @Zetemon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Congrats for the 10k suscribers Man you deserve More!

  • @DrBlue-nm6to
    @DrBlue-nm6to 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you so Much Andreas I've been trying to get to do co-op with my friend for a while and didnt get any result so I went up searching every where I could to get to do co-op and now I know thank you very much also love your music and content.

  • @Hunterb0t12
    @Hunterb0t12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ever since I saw Markiplier play, this has been one of my TOP FAVORITE horror games of all time, I even got my roommate to scream in a high pitch in coop XD. I’m so glad you’re coming back!!

  • @KonStafylides
    @KonStafylides 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Unbelievably nostalgic. Love you guys, seriously! Your music is amazing as well (not sure who's in charge of what)

  • @lalcachofazomber3901
    @lalcachofazomber3901 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yesterday I saw some videos and this awesome channel had 9984 subs, now it has 10,000, congrats

  • @exeleonlouise4991
    @exeleonlouise4991 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Love you and the game! It honestly was amazing.

  • @josesalas5390
    @josesalas5390 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ty andreas and your team for this game, makes me feel happy every time i play cof and aom

  • @shaunskull
    @shaunskull 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been looking for this for a while. Thank you

  • @Vanska0
    @Vanska0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great to see you guys still posting stuff about cry of fear

  • @trapoide26
    @trapoide26 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Just wanted to pass by to say that this game is truly t h e horror game, it deserves every recognition and fame. Take care andreas you rock

  • @Fenrigalo
    @Fenrigalo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    we used hamachi all the time to play the co-op
    was fun, and everyone had a good laugh at the others dying from Tallers, Sawcrazys, Fasters, heck even those weird ass tentacle things at the bridge map
    good times

    • @maboilaurence8227
      @maboilaurence8227 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No jokes, I have PTSD from that bridge level

    • @mongo4525
      @mongo4525 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i get overflow crashes all the time any idea how to fix?

    • @njswk6843
      @njswk6843 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can u solve the retrying problem?

  • @matrix5051
    @matrix5051 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The most atmospheric guide I ever seen! :D

  • @trashdog2254
    @trashdog2254 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Some of the greatest Mod/Game devs around, keep up the good work

  • @boll2.094
    @boll2.094 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    An official tutorial, sick! I wish more people played CoF so there would be a larger Co op community to play with. Andreas, if you don't mind my asking, if you ever get the legal stuff out of the way, do you think you will continue with the AoM remake? Or was the Discord server deletion the end of it?

    • @TeamPsykskallar
      @TeamPsykskallar  3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      All rights belongs to me, so there's no issues. I will probably remake AoM in the future instead :)

    • @boll2.094
      @boll2.094 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@TeamPsykskallar Huh, I recall you saying that there was some other issue, perhaps I am mistaken. Either way, I was just curious since me and the other guys were sad to see the server down. Thanks for the answer!

    • @joseanrosado3892
      @joseanrosado3892 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@TeamPsykskallar Plis,Team Psyskallar,will you make a Cry of fear 2? Not offending. I want the good ending of Cry of Fear 1 to be canon so that the sequel would continue.

    • @Tiago13337
      @Tiago13337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TeamPsykskallar omg nice and thx🤯🖤

    • @academyjason
      @academyjason 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@joseanrosado3892 imo if the good ending is canon theres no reason to emit a sequel

  • @marcel1429
    @marcel1429 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    why do tutorials never work for me

  • @juanpaVlz
    @juanpaVlz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you so much Andreas! Much love from Colombia. 👊💥⚡

  • @James-wh3oi
    @James-wh3oi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Andreas! This is the guy who messaged you on face book about that practice project based off CoF a while back. I just wanted to say, hopefully cry of fear can get a new game or a more stable remake some day if we are lucky *wink* however most importantly, we love your work!

    • @mateotorres2707
      @mateotorres2707 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He is remaking all the game in Unreal Engine 4.
      Check her discord.
      In that discord will show some information of the remake.

  • @goatmen7996
    @goatmen7996 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    yes finaly you returne this I love this game it's honestly very good

  • @QuezzNor
    @QuezzNor ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you, Team Psykskallar. I wanted to play with my friend and I didn't know how, I appreciate it.

  • @andrescamposvalencia4600
    @andrescamposvalencia4600 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for making this! now i can finally hear the screams of my friends again.

  • @Danca.0
    @Danca.0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Caramba, depois de Anos o Mestre retorna.. isso é uma notícia boa demais.

  • @nattvarg5545
    @nattvarg5545 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I like this game. Team psykskallar you BEST!

  • @soufflef
    @soufflef 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you bro, been wanting to play this game with my bro

  • @Antunes762
    @Antunes762 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They're back! Incredible.

  • @roflwatanoob
    @roflwatanoob 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would have killed for this years ago. Glad to see the page is still active!

  • @lawaflle
    @lawaflle 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    ill try with my friends, thanks u and happy halloween!!

  • @oyvi00i
    @oyvi00i 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i'm so glad this game is getting attention again! it is wayyyy too good to be left in the dark internet backstreets

  • @dkstudios4805
    @dkstudios4805 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    lmao. a bit late for me, but im sure new players will greatly appreciate a guide like this

  • @Discl0sedBarrel
    @Discl0sedBarrel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the coop, it has L4D inspired shenanigans. The guide was pretty good, I just feel like playing with anyone :3

  • @Krpamojtedrpa
    @Krpamojtedrpa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Guys, if you are getting the "cannot join, retrying" error message (or something like that), the host has to start the campaign first, not wait in the "coop-lobby thing"

    • @vantom26
      @vantom26 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      same man

    • @vantom26
      @vantom26 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i don't know how to join even though both of us tried everything same 2 times

    • @Box-Chan
      @Box-Chan 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      still doesn’t work

  • @IIWolFFinEII
    @IIWolFFinEII 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I realy wish it would be possible to make coop easier on 1.7 update. But thats still a way to do it right?

  • @wraith58
    @wraith58 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are amazing andreas. I want to hug you. :(
    (I'm finished the Sad ending. And im crying right now..)

  • @Roixtreme
    @Roixtreme 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The legend him self Andreas!
    God bless you!

  • @olaputsinthamusic4781
    @olaputsinthamusic4781 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I did not realise that CoF is still alive. One of the best horror experiences i had.

  • @iwgpatriot1255
    @iwgpatriot1255 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thank you so much for this i have been trying for 8 hours do thank you so much

  • @rauldlc6257
    @rauldlc6257 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love cry of fear YAY now i will play it with my friend THANKS! :D

  • @jacobp249
    @jacobp249 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Haha nice to hear from you guys, now I just need a tutorial about how to defeat the saw-hands guy in the building. Me and my bro died like 30 times and emptied our rounds every time but he didn't die and was blocking our way

  • @RhombusDaily
    @RhombusDaily 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Andreas Rönnberg your game is a piece of art that helped me in my depression moments, thank you very much for creating this masterpiece of game.

  • @user-sy5xy9jg4m
    @user-sy5xy9jg4m 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    这位游戏作者终于更新了,虽然只是联机教程。我真的希望你有新的游戏作品啊啊啊啊😭

  • @luxxievevo
    @luxxievevo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    the gods return!

  • @thearesblade4092
    @thearesblade4092 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like the king of the genius has returned or should I say the best game ever made ever

  • @XradicalD
    @XradicalD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love to still hear about this game, even if it's just support.

  • @wormpayback
    @wormpayback 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Glad you’re uploading again

  • @Thecourier2090
    @Thecourier2090 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video it was really helpful.

  • @ImmortalityYT
    @ImmortalityYT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Happy Halloween Team Psykskallar!

  • @delcaprascalar1860
    @delcaprascalar1860 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Alive! It came back with a new way!

  • @-R.E.D.A.C.T.E.D-
    @-R.E.D.A.C.T.E.D- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It was pretty depressing when i couldnt get this to work with my friends at a party but after watch a separate guide, turns out this one was missing some information and the other guide was missing some information also. So i wrote this guide.
    Cry of Fear COOP hosting guide:
    -open hamachi, have a network on(might have to click your network name)
    -On cry of fear, host game
    -any map
    -any host name
    -any players
    -NO PASSWORD
    -autorestart time 60
    -start
    -still on COF, type the "~" under Esc to open up command, type "sv_lan 0" hit enter
    -Now on hamachi, click numbers next to power button and select "copy IPv4"
    -On discord(or whatever you are using), in our group, type "connect" and paste copied IP right after. (ex. "connect 22.33.44.66")
    -Everyone needs Hamachi on with your network
    -Have everyone load up the game and at the main menu hit the "~" and just copy and paste what you posted on discord
    -should be gucci, any issue should be from the host firewall not accepting COF, just let it through.

    • @diemox6280
      @diemox6280 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      thank you bro

  • @lodocus1501
    @lodocus1501 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    if you are using windows vista/7, you have to restart your system, spam f8 after bios splash screen and go to "disable driver enforcement" every time you are going to use hamachi

  • @Asas_TV
    @Asas_TV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    if you can port forward just forward the 27014 - 27016 port on TCP - UDP. When in game make sure you disable lan and then get your friends to either join through steam if it works, or connect using your public ip in the console (example: "connect ").
    After that, you should be able to play without the use of hamachi and since pretty much every valve game uses the same ports which means you can skip to just disabling lan and joining either through steam or your public ip if you host a server.
    (obviously, most of the same troubleshooting techniques seen in the video can be used to test if others cant connect.)

    • @artouditou0818
      @artouditou0818 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes this is great, there are steam guides with pictures

    • @epicdarr
      @epicdarr 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      when portforwarding, do u put the port numbers under internal or external?

  • @boboli509
    @boboli509 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    BASED PSYKSKALLAR. I was trying to show my homies CoF for Halloween and had a BITCH of a time trying to set up coop. It used to be so easy but for whatever reason it decides to never work. Thanks for the tutorial I'm hype to have some fun with pals

  • @AkumuSupekuta
    @AkumuSupekuta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The masterpiece returns!!

  • @REFEELMAN
    @REFEELMAN 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much! Firewall ruin my friend connecting T_T You are the best. ^_^

  • @dr.oktoberfest5691
    @dr.oktoberfest5691 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love you @Team Psykskaller from the bottom of my heart ❤

  • @davidegioielli1097
    @davidegioielli1097 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    With this pandemic, this Halloween will be special

    • @Fenrigalo
      @Fenrigalo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, atleast some places aught'a be real ghosttowns

    • @NiCoNiCoNiCola
      @NiCoNiCoNiCola 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Everybody's gangsta, until you realise the chainsaw runner cosplayer isn't a cosplayer at all

  • @e3breadman5843
    @e3breadman5843 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Even tho I’m late cry of fear is still one of my favorite horror games

    • @mateotorres2707
      @mateotorres2707 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For me, it is THE HORROR GAME, that has ever created in all the times.

  • @blast6104
    @blast6104 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg thank you so much!! Now I and our friends can shit ourselves!! You earned a like and a sub.

  • @BioBotProductions
    @BioBotProductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Team psykskalar, we all love this game and we would really love to see that source remake someday because today’s world needs to see that F.E.A.R isn’t the only shooty spooky game

  • @redshade5574
    @redshade5574 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    holy jesus the legend

  • @DarkFunk1337
    @DarkFunk1337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I COULD HAVE USED THIS 6 YEARS AGO THANKS
    jk ily Andreas and James🥰

  • @Defchikp
    @Defchikp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always wanted to play coop now I will know how thanks

  • @dabestgamronyoutube2647
    @dabestgamronyoutube2647 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m glad to see you’re still around Andreas my man, I’d love to see you play around with CoF some more!

    • @dabestgamronyoutube2647
      @dabestgamronyoutube2647 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also the 1 person to dislike will die for they have disrespected the CoF king

  • @zan9922
    @zan9922 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    After trying to get this shit working a handful of times over the years, this tutorial worked!

  • @user-jq2tm8xj9c
    @user-jq2tm8xj9c 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Рад видеть, что ты не забыл про свое детище.

    • @MET4LIST
      @MET4LIST 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      А ведь сколько лет прошло 😅 Ведь до него много кто додумался так сделать

    • @r1ggy872
      @r1ggy872 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MET4LIST мда хотелось бы 2 часть этой игры было бы очень нереально круто ведь я эту игру прошёл уже очень много раз

    • @user-jq2tm8xj9c
      @user-jq2tm8xj9c 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MET4LIST Да там разрабы сами давно написали способ. имхо

    • @user-jq2tm8xj9c
      @user-jq2tm8xj9c 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@r1ggy872 есть такое.

  • @johannkalmet1390
    @johannkalmet1390 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for helping! 😍😍😎😎😍😍😍😍

  • @proy7550
    @proy7550 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i hope the coop servers gets like a fix for the new update mostly easy to go in a coop server

  • @CzarekMadrak
    @CzarekMadrak 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Andreas! Has the problem with the second campaign Manhunt been fixed? because at the one point during the game one person was disconnected

  • @IIWolFFinEII
    @IIWolFFinEII 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The only tutorial that actualy worked, its the one made by developers themselves.

  • @nanadr3am
    @nanadr3am 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Team Psykskallar return!

  • @Tommyno123
    @Tommyno123 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    thank u so much ur the best and game is besttt

  • @soulless6804
    @soulless6804 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Return of the King

  • @L42_lol
    @L42_lol 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Since it's October, are you guys going to hold another Halloween map contest? I don't have a map, just want to see if there are any new maps; but if not, it's all good.

  • @xcraft1340
    @xcraft1340 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Frick Hamachi! I recommend to use this Cry of Fear Server Browser by Pretador

  • @see_ess_gopro
    @see_ess_gopro ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Imagine if this game gets a reboot, that would be epic

    • @thehoarding_bug
      @thehoarding_bug ปีที่แล้ว

      it did have remake but it was scrapped

  • @mylesburnett2725
    @mylesburnett2725 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much, my guy. My friend and I played for hours like holy shit it's fun as fuck

  • @deez4580
    @deez4580 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not gonna lie looking back at cry of fear, is just, great. I remember all the bosses that were dismembered and, disturbing. I also remember Pewdiepie playing this.

  • @heartofartist2211
    @heartofartist2211 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think cry of fear is the best horror game that i can play with my friend.

  • @user-nb9of8xy3y
    @user-nb9of8xy3y 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In next remake game please make coop with longer story this game has so many potential!!!

  • @elalezz8563
    @elalezz8563 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the king is back

  • @shawn3447
    @shawn3447 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Your game looks fun, wish I didn’t have to do all this for co op though

    • @leodiiablo
      @leodiiablo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      didn't work for us, so it's even worst

  • @carocovoador2342
    @carocovoador2342 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    god i do not know why but i felt that this was the year COF was going to resurge from the ashes

  • @pipes_7993
    @pipes_7993 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    could you play co-op with gameranger as well? or is it just hamachi that works?

  • @legendaryboxer1257
    @legendaryboxer1257 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Question
    Are you gonna make a Afraid of Monters remastered/remake?
    I would pay to play that
    Afraid of monsters was the best horror game/mod i ever played

  • @willisaw135
    @willisaw135 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn, I love this free horror game. I really enjoy it.

  • @eagle9064
    @eagle9064 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love you guys ❤️❤️❤️

  • @8Delian8
    @8Delian8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    People forget about Cry of Fear.
    But I did not forget.

  • @miharbid68
    @miharbid68 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best game i've ever played

  • @iamboringvideos6832
    @iamboringvideos6832 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy macaroni didn't expect an upload from the Horry King, hmmm hope good news in the future

  • @soulbrother5435
    @soulbrother5435 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can we expect multiplayer fix in the future update?

  • @SNAKEx197
    @SNAKEx197 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you man, fing fire wall!!

  • @gray01216
    @gray01216 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    New Team Psykskallar video!

  • @ObzTicle
    @ObzTicle 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice one! Cheers!

  • @appadoopomme4055
    @appadoopomme4055 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool🔥 best free horror steam game

  • @lucasprado1214
    @lucasprado1214 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, nice vid. but what about the steam validation rejected error? it keeps disconnecting me after me and my friend go through a door or some map transition, or sometimes it doesn't connect at all :/