That's different because that is a direct threat to violence to a specific person and that is not protected however a general threat actually is under certain circumstances
@@cheesemakerkeesee395You obviously have no experience with the death cult of Ham@s and extreme musl1ms. These are not “general” threats. The entire goal is to destroy Isr@elis. This is the goal and they’ve acted on this goal for centuries. Stop confusing P@lestine with H@mas. H@mas is deceiving by using P@lestine. They kill their own people regularly.
Considering "from the river to the sea" is interpreted (by some) as calling for genocide, but that quote has 1st amendment protection, I can understand why the professors won't give her a straight answer. If you can twist people's words and claim the person is calling for genocide when they are not, and then get booted from school or a job, our free speech rights shrink, and at the end of the day nobody is any safer.
@@PFA... You are read about it. 1941 FÜHRER AND THE MUFTIS HOW PALESTINE YOUR LIE BECAME SOMETHING. I dare you to actually do some research there is NO ROOM FOR TERRORISM AND That's WHAT THEY ARE CALLING FOR AN ELIMINATION OF ISRAEL. DONT TWIST AND HIDE BEHIND AMERICAN RIGHTS WHEN YOU HATE AMERICA.
@@PFA... So what in your clueless phiqing world does the river to the sea mean to you my free speech Your a phuqing liar who the phuq do you censor most why is the Bible the most banned book on earth? Can't answer that you know why people are too soft hearted to tell you to pull ya head out ya a$$.
When you repeat yourself 3 times off a lawyer prepared script on a piece of paper in front of you, you know you’re full of crap. Ignorance, you just think you are the smartest one in the room.
Hahahah, that fat woman tried to twist the president's words and tried to change the narrative , the student were calling for a ceasefire and zionazi like her are calling it for the genocide of the jews.
Only the codes of conduct that they find abhorrent, like if someone attacked her for being black. That would be abhorrent. Everything else is up in the air.
@@hadronoftheseus8829 you're very dull. These "students" are guests. They attend at the will of the school. Theyve been raised in a culture of zero consequences or responsibility. With is perpetuated by the head of the university.
Mind Begs the Question: - If a Govt/Media/Business/University - Criminalize protesting Starvation,Death Camps,Gas Chambers/White Phosphorus,Pogroms,Ethnic Cleansing,etc - Pro Democracy or Pro Nazi?
The reason you're picking on Harvard instead of MIT (whose president testified similarly) is that the president of MIT is Jewish. Yes, you heard that right. Now go reconsider your position.
@@jonetyson both should be ashamed. I didn't knew, that she is Jewish and I only wrote it about Harvard, just when I saw it. It is horrible not to protect the own students.
@@cheesemakerkeesee395right! Aka if you don't agree with everything the Israeli government does then well censor and boycott. Yet when people want BDS it's not ok? What hypocrisy!
Please articulate that moral reason. Above all - and I mean at all other costs - please at the very least be _precise_ . Be as precise as your intellect and integrity can possibly allow.
@@lornatodd4750 Gay attended Phillips Exeter Academy, a private boarding school in Exeter, New Hampshire, and then attended Stanford University, where she studied economics. She received the Anna Laura Myers Prize for best undergraduate thesis in economics and graduated in 1992. Gay then earned her Ph.D. in 1998 from Harvard University, where she won the university's Toppan Prize for the best dissertation in political science. After graduating, Gay served as assistant professor, then tenured associate professor in Stanford University's Department of Political Science from 2000 to 2006. In the 2003-2004 academic year, Gay was a fellow at the Center for Advanced Study in the Behavioral Sciences. Subsequently, Gay was recruited to Harvard to be a professor of government in 2006 and additionally appointed professor of African American studies in 2007. In 2015, she was simultaneously named the Wilbur A. Cowett Professor of Government and of African and African-American Studies and Dean of Social Studies at the Faculty of Arts and Sciences. Three years later, in 2018, she was appointed to become the Edgerley Family Dean of the Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences. But yeah...quotas
Absolutely horrifying. How can this woman say that hate speech is abhorrent to her but in the same breath say theyll protect it as free speech and its not against the code of conduct.
The stark hypocrisy of you people is absolutely breathtaking. It really is an anthropological sight to behold -and to closely study for many decades to come.
I wonder if someone had threatened her life or the lives of her children, even then would she have claimed the right to free speech or simply called the police?
If someone threatened her life, that's targeting at an individual and it's harassment. If someone is giving an anti-African American speech.... Oh well, that happens everyday... Police doesn't help..
If someone made a group threat against one of her demographics, black or gay, she would SMASH THE HAMMER on them. But since she is Marxist and antisemitic we have seen her make allowance for antisemitic violence threats, including the recent one of allowing NON-APPROVED, new groups to make anti-Jewish rallies. This is AGAINST their rules. Only condoned groups can demonstrate. It just shows her true colors.
@@antelopelynn You can give as many anti speeches you want as long as the threat of PHYSICAL violence is not contained in the speech. This is not that hard to understand. If I am president of a college and invite someone on who lets say is ant-female to speak and they say all females should be beaten what if someone from the crowd acts upon that then what? The liability alone by itself that the college would face from having a speaker/protest encourage physical violence on someone is enormous.
Harvard and MIT produce some of the weakest and dumbest people I’ve ever met in my life. It’s an affirmative action and legacy school, the best don’t go there anymore.
Why is the vast majority of the Ivy League schools run by radical women? I know the answer. In my opinion if you are a white person and you side with these radicals who do not/hate white people, especially males, again, just my opinion but prove me wrong. The president of Harvard did nothing but spelled off her talking points. I guarantee if it was white do you wanna send thing to Black she would easily expel them. To me, she looks like a radical. Harvard was voted the most anti-semi university in the US. Harvard was actually scored number one for anti-free-speech, That should tell you everything, it’s no longer a diversity of opinion, because the radical left one to imprison those to have a different viewpoint, and I would venture to guess the right you point that they don’t like!
Congresswoman asked general questions not specific to a student. The sistah gave policy answers. If a student was violated according to written policy and no action was taken per written policy. That student has a creditable lawsuit against the university. Other than that, the congresswoman’s question was correctly answered according to policy and procedures by Sistah Claudine Gay
Nuances mean nothing to radical Reich wingers, and it shows. This ain't Trump rally. Time to pack and leave the country if you can't stand free speech.
I’m not involving myself with issues with the Jewish community….but saying any group of people should be exterminated goes beyond free speech. Free speech really refers to being able to criticize your government. It’s not meant for you to express homicidal views
Saying "I support Israel's response to Oct. 7th" literally approves of 16,000 killed Palestinian civilians, which includes 6,500 children, and 1.8 million people displaced from their homes...should those quoted words be barred from 1st amendment protections?
Uh, the first amendment guarantees the right to call for genocide, but I don't hear the university presidents calling for congress to resign, because they've apparently made no attempt to change the constitution. Those university presidents only have sway over their own campuses, whereas the real power resides in the government.
To me, it is totally unacceptable that an institution of higher learning like Harvard would go so far as to allow hate speech, which would include the slaughter of innocent people in Israel! Mike
The people of Israel aren't innocent. The government isn't at least. It's silly to care so much about a country that doesn't give a crap about this one
@@cheesemakerkeesee395We hear about the izlamic slaughter of Christians in Nigeria, Ethiopia, Eritrea, Sudan, what the people of Syria go through, the Congo, Iraq, Iran; all at the hands of izlam. Look at Boston, Manchester, Paris, London. Terror attacks, not by Jews, but by izlamists. How come the palestinian slaughter was kept such a big secret until now? Their population continues to grow. There is no slaughter.
@@mrlaw711 you mean heartless and unfeeling? She has no respect for her students or for the Congress or for the American people. Being educated does not mean being wise or compassionate.
Dr. Claudine Gay did not not know the protest were going on? She did not step out side to listen or read the posters? She did not watch the news? She has not had reports from other students in fear with this hateful nonscence? Really? Humm On this alone she needs to be terminated from her duties at Harvard.
this has been a social norm on campuses for decades, starting with the creation of SJP (and it's previous incarnation that was closed after allegations of funneling funds to terror) and following with the BDS movement (check out the founders of each) that are clear hate groups.
@@cheesemakerkeesee395Inciting violence is not protected under free speech. From the river to the sea is a known slogan to destroy the state of Israel. Stop being naive. Free speech ends when you actively promote the death or harm of others.
We have only ourselves to blame. Universities have been stewing pots of left wing hypocrites for decades that have boiled over in the last few years of wokeism. They graduate bumper crops of smug, poorly educated indoctrinated morons who vote. God help us.
@@VeronicaJ-bs8hc I'm no victim, but my eyes are clear enough to see that she made victims out of Asians, Jews, conservative applicants for professorships down to student applicants. The ratios, numbers, lawsuits, and complaints prove it.
@@valkimura1053 You're clearly set on playing the victim. Now everyone is out to get you, your own failures can't possibly be _your_ fault. Take responsibility.
You mean like the intimidating and harassing Congresswoman Stefanik was engaging in? Even after each of the university presidents answered the question, she kept pressuring them to give the answer she wanted to hear. PSYCHO!
And that's what has been occurring for weeks. It is disgusting. It is insane that it is allowed....because it is. This isn't free speech. These mobs....they have degenerated into mobs who attack students who disagree...are increasingly out for blood. It is sickening.
@@mansakaasi4909 Equally abhorrent, however there is a distinction: Harvard, Penn and MIT recieve federal funds from the dept of education. If they are violating civil rights, then its the duty of Congress to pull funds from those schools.
Where was the Senate's outcry and hearing when right-wing nationalists chanted, “Jews will not replace us” while marching across campus in Charlottesville?
@@CowboyConanThey are literally wearing masks, getting angry, burning flags, and calling for genocide of the jews. They never once mention the government.
It must be pretty embarrassing for the woke President of Harvard to have been outwitted by a Trump-thumping Congresswoman, but that’s exactly what happened.
I'm genuinely curious: how is this your takeway? All I see the Congresswoman doing is: 1. Disingenuosly equating "from the river to sea, Palestine will be free" and "intifada" with "calls for genocide of Jews." Neither of these equivalences are substantiated. 2. Raising her voice in order to intimidate and make the interrogation emotional and not rational. 3. Interrupting her to derail and invalidate her completely sterile and uncontroversial arguments. How could any of this behavior be proof of "outwitting"? Please explain.
@@PS-jo8ll Sounds like you think Stefanik set a trap and Gay fell right into it. Every hyper-intelligent president of Harvard prepped by the world's most expensive lawyers knows people love legalistic responses to emotional questions. How dumb can she look? Well, look at the video and see for yourself.
@@Bananabear20, tell that to the Palestinians college kids shot in Michigan. Tell that to the Palestinian family in Illonois were there kid was shot and killed by their landlord because they were Muslim!!!!
Under federal law (FERPA Act of 1974), the president absolutely cannot answer the question. And I think Stefanik knew that when she asked the question.
@@VirginiaBoy1969FERPA allows schools to disclose information if "To comply with a judicial order or lawfully issued subpoena." And accordingly to POLITICO, "the Education and Workforce Committee is launching an official Congressional investigation with the full force of subpoena power into Penn, MIT, & Harvard and others."
People at Harvard should start chanting “From the Mississippi to the Atlantic, all this land, the whites will have it!” And see how Ms. Gaaaay feels about it.
This does not come under the heading of censorship. This is evil that needs to be condemned never to be heard of again. Just like no one would go around calling for lynchings of black people.
Freedom of speech is not calling for violence and eliminating a whole country…or maybe you need to learn what Intifada and From the river to the sea means!
Wouldn't the conduct of calling for genocide, be actually committing genocide? At least they will act when Jews are actually being slaughtered. Or, so she says on camera. Be very interesting to see what their response would be if people were calling for the extermination of a different group or race. I think I can guess that it would be taken much more seriously.
I wonder how the response would have been if it wasn’t Jews, but the gender people that was called for slaughter… We know from Canada, that it is enough to refuse calling the genders by the linguistically correct pronouns. You have to go to special correction classes at your own expense, or risk your job. Calling for genocide apparently isn’t as serious as refusing to warp the language. It is appalling at best. Steve Jobs as closing - the bozo explosion…
Mind Begs the Question: - When one can't call a Govt/Nation Nazi - Who use Starvation,Death Camps,Gas Chambers/White Phosphorus,Pogroms,Ethnic Cleansing,etc - Living in Free World or Nazi World?
@@ashleyc.6607 No such narrative was referenced or even obliquely alluded to in this video. What is your IQ and education? To be sure, there _is_ a genocide ongoing, unequivocally and incontrovertibly, but this brute fact constitutes a preterition on _your_ part.
She’s a black lesbian. How do you think she became president at Harvard? by her own merit? 😂 this is what happens with affirmative action and hiring for diversity.. under qualified and incompetent losers that are arrogant.
And to think that Harvard (Havad, as the elite say, lol) was started as a school to train preachers in the Gospel. Stefanik is right, one has the right to "free speech", yet can not "yell fire" (if no fire) in a theater, as that is what this Harvard president is suggesting! Writing for the Court, Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr., argued that: "words which, ordinarily and in many places, would be within the freedom of speech protected by the First Amendment may become subject to prohibition when of such a nature and used in such circumstances as to create a clear and present danger that they will bring about the substantive evils which Congress has a right to prevent."
Intifadha is not antisemitic word It means revolution in english And it is the right of any human being It is the same thing that Americans did against British army
The fact that she couldn't answer the question and just kept repeating the same garbage shows she has failed miserably. Also this chik is a dr? doesn't seem too bright. Kudos to Stefanik
That Harvard president is more of a symbol and affirmative action in play than real talent. No eloquence no great speech or replies just plain and meaningless statements prepared in advance on crumbled pieces of paper (damn she needed notes) shameful...
When I was young I thought that the famous phrase: Never again, symbolized the commitment of the world to protect people, especially the Jewish people, from being mass killed by satanic evil. On October 7th, 2023 and in the following days, I learned that the true meaning of Never again clearly emerges from the recognition of the utter failure of humanity not just to provide such protection but even just to verbally express the expected support. The true meaning is that the Jewish people as well as the state of Israel will never again trust their fate with any other but themselves. The world has lost its credibility as well as any moral grounds in this matter and this is going to stay like that from now on.
It is far worse than that. Not only can "the world" not be trusted to enforce "Never again", from what I understand from both the Responses of the Harvard and Penn Presidents that "the world" can even prepare the implements of Genocide (Concentration camps and Gas Chambers) and announce its intention to commit genocide, but will only be held accountable for "harassment" once they start putting Jews into the implements of Genocide!
Exactly. And just days after that heinous event of Oct 7, committed by known terrorists Hamas, the morally sick student groups at Harvard issued a statement BLAMING the victims of that terrorist attack, saying it was "all" their fault. True antisemitism and something I thought I would never see.
As long as people don’t change, never again will happen again. It was proven true in Africa and in the Balkan war… Both these occasions are after WWII. But I am all in for never again actually being never again So obviously, I stand with Israel 🇮🇱
@@Hans_Magnusson Me, too. I can't believe this antisemitism is taking hold. I'm not Jewish, but in my wildest dreams I never imagined the world could start to talk like old 1940 Germany again. We are in sickened times.
If those that were chanting and rallying to end of the Jews people were chanting and rallying to end Black people, what would she say then? Pretty Simple Right!
I think people needs to, no! MUST pull any and all funding/contributions to any of these schools. This is beyond ridiculous. Just proves how ignorant academics are now.
This is the best example of the old adage "those that do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it" ive ever seen. This is exactly the kind of dissembling, dishonest language that people were using after world war one in germany that lead to the rise of facism. Obviously racist and unacceptible language was allowed because suddenly people couldnt quite bring themselves to do anything about it and then the next thing you know that language suddenly becomes the norm.
"Intifada, either of two popular uprisings of Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip aimed at ending Israel’s occupation of those territories and creating an independent Palestinian state" Encyclopedia Britanica
I guess all you learn at Harvard is a meaningless word salad in place of a definitive "Yes or No". I like clarified and Justified answers. It takes commitment and dedication. Harvard is just a Darwin Award. Put that on your resume.
And the students said NO to genocide and murder of the Palestinians. They are watching a holocaust in real time.... They are free to think and say what they want..if you don't like it ...leave.
@@tarobinson7411 What an ignorant, uneducated comment. You have no idea of the difference between the holocaust and heinous terrorism. Let's hope you never have any influence on anyone with your child-like mentality and blatant ignorance.
If society keeps insisting on rewarding people for the color of their skin or the genetalia between their legs instead of the actual merit they have to do a job, this will continue. Humanity should expect large scale breakdown of services, institutions and progress in the.coming years until things get so bad people will demand a return to meritocracy.
This is just another right-wing nationalist repeating phrases that have been taught to him. It is likely that his academic average does not allow him to pass beyond the walls of Harvard University
So when the genocide is executed, they at Harvard, after robust scrutiny, have every belief that the possibility, given context of course, that they may identify that genocide as potentially possibly genocide.
Neither one of them knows the actual meaning of "Intifada". So when Stefanik lies about it, Gay's ignorance prevents her from handling the situation by simply pointing out the lie. Shame on them both.
@@billreed2423, What does that have to do with voting Republican? you are giving a bad rap to the republican party. It's people like you that are making it harder for the Republican party to win.
Why are you turning this into political propaganda? Educational institutions do not pay taxes on their educational facilities and income. @@billreed2423
Let’s be clear: First Amendment protections have never been interpreted to prohibit punishment of expression that threatens to materially disrupt the safe functioning of government or incitement of others to commit acts of violence or other illegal acts. If such speech is directed toward actually inciting such illegal conduct and the advised conduct is imminent or immediate, the speech can be punished. When it comes to “free speech” and the advocacy of illegal conduct and crimes, society does not need to wait until the exhorted activity takes place to have an interest in punishing those whose objective it is to incite the commission of crimes and acts of violence. Analogously, one who lights the fuse to a bomb can be punished without waiting for the bomb itself to go off.
Hypothetical question... What if a student group called for this Harvard president to be beheaded? Would that be tolerated by her as free speech?
That's different because that is a direct threat to violence to a specific person and that is not protected however a general threat actually is under certain circumstances
Or refer to her as a n*****.
@@cheesemakerkeesee395You obviously have no experience with the death cult of Ham@s and extreme musl1ms. These are not “general” threats. The entire goal is to destroy Isr@elis. This is the goal and they’ve acted on this goal for centuries. Stop confusing P@lestine with H@mas. H@mas is deceiving by using P@lestine. They kill their own people regularly.
@@cheesemakerkeesee395 Any threat on a person or group of people is criminal. Inciting violence or scheduling violence
@@sopanmcfadden276 You're just dead wrong as a matter of American law. Moreover no such threats have even been refenced in this video.
Look at that smirk.
Absolutely smirking 😮 she is enjoying the hate.
She smirking because she will never resign and never be fired.
smug maga narcissist? go figure!
I'd be smirking from ear to ear myself. Reading these comments is like watching a dog run after a tennis ball that hasn't been thrown.
@@hadronoftheseus8829what a stupid comment from someone who clearly thinks their clever
Trying to play stupid yet a proffessor at harvard Nah thats what's wrong in America.
💯 percent
Considering "from the river to the sea" is interpreted (by some) as calling for genocide, but that quote has 1st amendment protection, I can understand why the professors won't give her a straight answer. If you can twist people's words and claim the person is calling for genocide when they are not, and then get booted from school or a job, our free speech rights shrink, and at the end of the day nobody is any safer.
@@PFA... You are read about it. 1941 FÜHRER AND THE MUFTIS HOW PALESTINE YOUR LIE BECAME SOMETHING. I dare you to actually do some research there is NO ROOM FOR TERRORISM AND That's WHAT THEY ARE CALLING FOR AN ELIMINATION OF ISRAEL. DONT TWIST AND HIDE BEHIND AMERICAN RIGHTS WHEN YOU HATE AMERICA.
@@PFA... So what in your clueless phiqing world does the river to the sea mean to you my free speech Your a phuqing liar who the phuq do you censor most why is the Bible the most banned book on earth? Can't answer that you know why people are too soft hearted to tell you to pull ya head out ya a$$.
When you repeat yourself 3 times off a lawyer prepared script on a piece of paper in front of you, you know you’re full of crap. Ignorance, you just think you are the smartest one in the room.
This Harvard president is everything that's wrong with america.
No she’s not, she also is not throwing out the Zionist Jewish students that spew Palestinian hate and genocide, so I think she’s being fair.
Brilliant, tough, and Black...lol. I love it.
@@tarobinson7411You’re the only one.😂🤣
@@abelgonzales3695 You are not qualified to even be a part of this conversation...no one cares what you think
Hahahah, that fat woman tried to twist the president's words and tried to change the narrative , the student were calling for a ceasefire and zionazi like her are calling it for the genocide of the jews.
At odds with the values of Harvard, but not Harvard's code of conduct? Aren't codes of conduct based on values?
Separate things. Policies are not code of conduct unless it breaks policies. Like in your job
@@bigwash1752 no. Break your company's code or policies. You're more than likely getting fired.
@@racer14glr91 Harvard is not a corporation, and students are not employees. You're not the sharpest snail in the sauté' pan, are you?
Only the codes of conduct that they find abhorrent, like if someone attacked her for being black. That would be abhorrent. Everything else is up in the air.
@@hadronoftheseus8829 you're very dull. These "students" are guests. They attend at the will of the school. Theyve been raised in a culture of zero consequences or responsibility. With is perpetuated by the head of the university.
The lady from Harvard agrees with the students. She doesn't want to punish them, she's on their side.
Funny how you right wing fucks love free speech until you don’t like what you’re hearing
I think you're reading into it. I didn't get that impression at all. Stefanik is the one grandstanding and the one with an agenda. As usual.
And even if so what's the problem, lol
@@johncrook9519THAT'S your idea of an agenda?????
you are totally wrong
Harvard be ashamed!
Mind Begs the Question:
- If a Govt/Media/Business/University
- Criminalize protesting Starvation,Death Camps,Gas Chambers/White Phosphorus,Pogroms,Ethnic Cleansing,etc
- Pro Democracy or Pro Nazi?
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeingsThese were students who were calling for the Genocide of Jews...and that is wrong !!!
The reason you're picking on Harvard instead of MIT (whose president testified similarly) is that the president of MIT is Jewish. Yes, you heard that right. Now go reconsider your position.
@@jonetyson They both should.be ashamed !!! !!! !!! Calling for mass murder in campus is always in the WRONG CONTEXT !!!
@@jonetyson both should be ashamed. I didn't knew, that she is Jewish and I only wrote it about Harvard, just when I saw it. It is horrible not to protect the own students.
Harvard President: "Only If they also misgender someone does that statement break our code of conduct"
Unless they're Jewish
Exactly 💯
if you're an alum who donates to any of these schools, you have ample moral reason to change that decision.
Excuse me what?
@@cheesemakerkeesee395right! Aka if you don't agree with everything the Israeli government does then well censor and boycott. Yet when people want BDS it's not ok? What hypocrisy!
Ahh, Yeah.. An absolute RIGHT to Change!!..
Please articulate that moral reason. Above all - and I mean at all other costs - please at the very least be _precise_ . Be as precise as your intellect and integrity can possibly allow.
@@hadronoftheseus8829 Moral reason: Do not support institutions that harbor individuals that promote and call for genocide of the Jews.
I don’t know how she got this president position, shame shame shame Harvard University. 👺💩👹
Quotas
As to your question, I think we all know why she was given the president's position......
@@lornatodd4750 Gay attended Phillips Exeter Academy, a private boarding school in Exeter, New Hampshire, and then attended Stanford University, where she studied economics. She received the Anna Laura Myers Prize for best undergraduate thesis in economics and graduated in 1992. Gay then earned her Ph.D. in 1998 from Harvard University, where she won the university's Toppan Prize for the best dissertation in political science. After graduating, Gay served as assistant professor, then tenured associate professor in Stanford University's Department of Political Science from 2000 to 2006. In the 2003-2004 academic year, Gay was a fellow at the Center for Advanced Study in the Behavioral Sciences.
Subsequently, Gay was recruited to Harvard to be a professor of government in 2006 and additionally appointed professor of African American studies in 2007. In 2015, she was simultaneously named the Wilbur A. Cowett Professor of Government and of African and African-American Studies and Dean of Social Studies at the Faculty of Arts and Sciences. Three years later, in 2018, she was appointed to become the Edgerley Family Dean of the Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences.
But yeah...quotas
Her name is Gay. That's her qualification for the position. Good grief, my beautiful Harvard reduced to this state?
Because she checked the "diversity and equity" box. It's how people get hired now a days, not by merit and qualification.
Absolutely horrifying. How can this woman say that hate speech is abhorrent to her but in the same breath say theyll protect it as free speech and its not against the code of conduct.
How about you actually _specify_ the alleged hate speech -if you can. (You can't.)
Cause she's a radical Marxist democrat
@@hadronoftheseus8829how about YOU answer a simple YES OR NO question FOR HER!!!
@@whicker59 What question are you alluding to? Be specific.
The stark hypocrisy of you people is absolutely breathtaking. It really is an anthropological sight to behold -and to closely study for many decades to come.
Harvard has become a huge joke.
Make that PATHETIC joke
only americans and israeli jews are laughing , at themselves
Intifadha is not antisemtic statement
It means revolution in Arabic
@@thegoldenboah3343🤡
Not for Graduates
Just sue them
Thanks for your stupid contribution, you can go back to your basement bow
Intifadha is not antisemtic statement
It means revolution in Arabic
I wonder if someone had threatened her life or the lives of her children, even then would she have claimed the right to free speech or simply called the police?
If someone threatened her life, that's targeting at an individual and it's harassment. If someone is giving an anti-African American speech.... Oh well, that happens everyday... Police doesn't help..
If someone made a group threat against one of her demographics, black or gay, she would SMASH THE HAMMER on them. But since she is Marxist and antisemitic we have seen her make allowance for antisemitic violence threats, including the recent one of allowing NON-APPROVED, new groups to make anti-Jewish rallies. This is AGAINST their rules. Only condoned groups can demonstrate. It just shows her true colors.
Intifadha is not antisemtic statement
It means revolution in Arabic
@@antelopelynn You can give as many anti speeches you want as long as the threat of PHYSICAL violence is not contained in the speech.
This is not that hard to understand. If I am president of a college and invite someone on who lets say is ant-female to speak and they say all females should be beaten what if someone from the crowd acts upon that then what? The liability alone by itself that the college would face from having a speaker/protest encourage physical violence on someone is enormous.
As an alumnus of MIT, I feel disgraced and ashamed about the moral failure of MIT president Sally Kornbluth
Wrong video. Go find a vid about Sally and bitch n moan about your irrelevant bs there.
Harvard and MIT produce some of the weakest and dumbest people I’ve ever met in my life. It’s an affirmative action and legacy school, the best don’t go there anymore.
You're a bot you have no feelings
Why is the vast majority of the Ivy League schools run by radical women? I know the answer. In my opinion if you are a white person and you side with these radicals who do not/hate white people, especially males, again, just my opinion but prove me wrong. The president of Harvard did nothing but spelled off her talking points. I guarantee if it was white do you wanna send thing to Black she would easily expel them. To me, she looks like a radical. Harvard was voted the most anti-semi university in the US. Harvard was actually scored number one for anti-free-speech, That should tell you everything, it’s no longer a diversity of opinion, because the radical left one to imprison those to have a different viewpoint, and I would venture to guess the right you point that they don’t like!
BRO ITS WHAME*N
You can't believe anyone that can't answer a Yes or No question.
Congresswoman asked general questions not specific to a student. The sistah gave policy answers. If a student was violated according to written policy and no action was taken per written policy. That student has a creditable lawsuit against the university. Other than that, the congresswoman’s question was correctly answered according to policy and procedures by Sistah Claudine Gay
Have you stopped beating your wife?
sistah rocked it. that's why they mad
Nuances mean nothing to radical Reich wingers, and it shows. This ain't Trump rally. Time to pack and leave the country if you can't stand free speech.
If you can’t pronounce or especially spell sister …then may be you need go to your Sista’s college.
I’m not involving myself with issues with the Jewish community….but saying any group of people should be exterminated goes beyond free speech. Free speech really refers to being able to criticize your government. It’s not meant for you to express homicidal views
Yes it literally does
Why do you only care when it's against Jews? Not a peep during all the antiwhite hate for the last several years which is way worse?
Does free speech have to be with faces covered????? Cowards!
Saying "I support Israel's response to Oct. 7th" literally approves of 16,000 killed Palestinian civilians, which includes 6,500 children, and 1.8 million people displaced from their homes...should those quoted words be barred from 1st amendment protections?
@@cheesemakerkeesee395She explained it correctly. If you paid for your education, you need to ask for a refund.
How do people who think/act like that get put into positions of power? They even tried to justify and backpedal. Absolutely shameful
Its exactly the type of people. They want in power.
Dei
Uh, the first amendment guarantees the right to call for genocide, but I don't hear the university presidents calling for congress to resign, because they've apparently made no attempt to change the constitution. Those university presidents only have sway over their own campuses, whereas the real power resides in the government.
Poor president gay. she dedicated her entire life to the Fuhrer’s book, but didnt realize that he was whyte
Now the world knows what's wrong with America's educational system. It starts at the very top.
To me, it is totally unacceptable that an institution of higher learning like Harvard would go so far as to allow hate speech, which would include the slaughter of innocent people in Israel!
Mike
Or Palestine. It goes both ways.
The people of Israel aren't innocent. The government isn't at least. It's silly to care so much about a country that doesn't give a crap about this one
Yet hate speech about the slaughter of innocent Is palestinians is perfectly acceptable? What do you think the nakba is
@@Roosters-rants1977fair
@@cheesemakerkeesee395We hear about the izlamic slaughter of Christians in Nigeria, Ethiopia, Eritrea, Sudan, what the people of Syria go through, the Congo, Iraq, Iran; all at the hands of izlam. Look at Boston, Manchester, Paris, London. Terror attacks, not by Jews, but by izlamists. How come the palestinian slaughter was kept such a big secret until now? Their population continues to grow. There is no slaughter.
The Harvard president is slimy and constantly pushing a word salad while saying nothing.
Sounds like you're jealous because Ms. Gay is calm and educated.
@@mrlaw711 you mean heartless and unfeeling? She has no respect for her students or for the Congress or for the American people. Being educated does not mean being wise or compassionate.
😂😂😂😂😂@@mrlaw711
@@evelynlipon7067
It’s always of that opinion when a person of authority looks like the President.
that's because she talking to illiterate congressmen
As usual witness testimony is rife with weasel words, deflection, and devoid of any truth, honesty or clarity. Never a straight answer!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
Dr. Claudine Gay did not not know the protest were going on?
She did not step out side to listen or read the posters?
She did not watch the news?
She has not had reports from other students in fear with this hateful nonscence?
Really?
Humm
On this alone she needs to be terminated from her duties at Harvard.
this has been a social norm on campuses for decades, starting with the creation of SJP (and it's previous incarnation that was closed after allegations of funneling funds to terror) and following with the BDS movement (check out the founders of each) that are clear hate groups.
Another woke harvard administrator that needs to go some where else! An obfuscator par excellance! Who hired her?? They need to take action now!!
So protecting the first amendment is woke now? I guess I'm even woker than I thought 😆
@cheesebrain-Are you that ignorant, or just plain stupid? Freedom of speech does not allow or protect anyone calling for murder of people.
@@cheesemakerkeesee395Inciting violence is not protected under free speech. From the river to the sea is a known slogan to destroy the state of Israel. Stop being naive. Free speech ends when you actively promote the death or harm of others.
We have only ourselves to blame. Universities have been stewing pots of left wing hypocrites for decades that have boiled over in the last few years of wokeism. They graduate bumper crops of smug, poorly educated indoctrinated morons who vote. God help us.
I wouldn't even trust her with teaching at public school.
I suspect if Trump said anything that she "interpreted" as hate, she would have no qualms saying it was contrary to the code of conduct.
Your certitude certainly far exceeds your precision.
Only thing she's missing r the long pointed ears of a JACKAZZ.
Stop pulling the victim card.
@@VeronicaJ-bs8hc I'm no victim, but my eyes are clear enough to see that she made victims out of Asians, Jews, conservative applicants for professorships down to student applicants. The ratios, numbers, lawsuits, and complaints prove it.
@@valkimura1053 You're clearly set on playing the victim. Now everyone is out to get you, your own failures can't possibly be _your_ fault. Take responsibility.
She can’t answer the questions. People no longer have integrity.
Intimidating and harassing is not 'expression', it's criminal act. And her failure to addressing it and even recognizing it makes her complicit.
You mean like the intimidating and harassing Congresswoman Stefanik was engaging in?
Even after each of the university presidents answered the question, she kept pressuring them to give the answer she wanted to hear. PSYCHO!
Learn to write a sentence.
@@greenwater4235👞
Not under woke logic. Woke logic says anything is ok if it's a group that it's ok to hate.
@@greenwater4235 English is probably not their first language.
Hate speech and inciting violence is not protected under the banner of free speech 😢
And that's what has been occurring for weeks. It is disgusting. It is insane that it is allowed....because it is. This isn't free speech. These mobs....they have degenerated into mobs who attack students who disagree...are increasingly out for blood.
It is sickening.
Wow let's revisit Charlottesville then ?
Then why are the Jews that call for genocide so protected
@@mansakaasi4909You mean where Antifa decided to break in and start a fight in an otherwise peaceful demonstration?
@@mansakaasi4909 Equally abhorrent, however there is a distinction: Harvard, Penn and MIT recieve federal funds from the dept of education. If they are violating civil rights, then its the duty of Congress to pull funds from those schools.
We're in trouble as a nation when this is how the leaders of our 'esteemed' universities speak and doge. Disgraceful. Resign!!
Where was the Senate's outcry and hearing when right-wing nationalists chanted, “Jews will not replace us” while marching across campus in Charlottesville?
The first amendment does not protect life-threatening speech.
Lives are not being threatened. A government is.
Actually it literally does as long as you're not making a specific threat to a specific person
@@cheesemakerkeesee395Wow, great rationalization skills you have!
@@CowboyConanThey are literally wearing masks, getting angry, burning flags, and calling for genocide of the jews. They never once mention the government.
@@CowboyConanJews are not a government but people. So people lifes are threatened not government. But guess this is a Hamas supporter reasoning
It must be pretty embarrassing for the woke President of Harvard to have been outwitted by a Trump-thumping Congresswoman, but that’s exactly what happened.
I'm genuinely curious: how is this your takeway?
All I see the Congresswoman doing is:
1. Disingenuosly equating "from the river to sea, Palestine will be free" and "intifada" with "calls for genocide of Jews." Neither of these equivalences are substantiated.
2. Raising her voice in order to intimidate and make the interrogation emotional and not rational.
3. Interrupting her to derail and invalidate her completely sterile and uncontroversial arguments.
How could any of this behavior be proof of "outwitting"? Please explain.
@@PS-jo8ll Sounds like you think Stefanik set a trap and Gay fell right into it.
Every hyper-intelligent president of Harvard prepped by the world's most expensive lawyers knows people love legalistic responses to emotional questions. How dumb can she look? Well, look at the video and see for yourself.
You a NPC?
@@jutsu1 you have to consult a lawyer for that comment too?
@@PS-jo8ll You know full well that the Pals call for the elimination of Jews. Willful ignorance is not helpful.
All three should resign. It's disgusting how they answered a straight yes or no answer. All three of them should go. Full stop!!! No excuses
I rarely agree with Stefanik. Today I do. MIT, Penn, and Harvard must be boycotted in every manner possible. 🇺🇸🇮🇱
Im no american, what is "Penn" ? a short of something?
@@David31567 Yes; people use it sometimes to mean "University of Pennsylvania."
The Republican woman should have the same energy in rise of Islamaphobia as well!!!
it is not on the rise though. or at least not to the extent that antisemitism is.
@@Bananabear20, tell that to the Palestinians college kids shot in Michigan. Tell that to the Palestinian family in Illonois were there kid was shot and killed by their landlord because they were Muslim!!!!
why are they here? shouldnt they be doing intifada there? why are they in christian lands?@@mauricereid3004
@@mauricereid3004 When a hearing on Islamophobia occurs in Congress, if ever, she will.
@@italia689, no she won't!!
She did not ask her to identify students but yet her excuse was students right to privacy.
Under federal law (FERPA Act of 1974), the president absolutely cannot answer the question. And I think Stefanik knew that when she asked the question.
They didn't ask for specific student information!
@@VirginiaBoy1969FERPA allows schools to disclose information if "To comply with a judicial order or lawfully issued subpoena." And accordingly to POLITICO, "the Education and Workforce Committee is launching an official Congressional investigation with the full force of subpoena power into Penn, MIT, & Harvard and others."
@@VirginiaBoy1969 False. The law says otherwise. Claudine Gay is an embarrassment and a harm to society. She needs to be fired immediately.
People at Harvard should start chanting “From the Mississippi to the Atlantic, all this land, the whites will have it!” And see how Ms. Gaaaay feels about it.
i'm sure she'll feel just fine. students have chanted worse
racist, your outrage is only one-sided. racism is racism
@@Marie14749 No, her racism is one-sided. That’s the point.
@@sillynelson1, yes! You are just like her and worse.
@@Marie14749 Nah not really
That's what passes for president of the supposed best college in America, as if nobody knew what they were gonna get.
Don't hire Harvard Graduates!!
Don’t paint all students with that brush because of this lady.
How is it possible that this person was elected as a President of Harvard?!!
Diversity award
She was elected because Harvard thinks she’s qualified.
@@Indian_Kamala
If America had more diversity awareness then all these hate filled individuals wouldn’t be keyboard warriors!
@@emmajones7492 America is by far one of the most diverse nations if not the most diverse. Doesnt mean it's a benefit
@@emmajones7492 maybe if colleges weren't so antisemitic we wouldn't be addressing these issues
I wonder how long it took Gay to memorise that answer
She's just as guilty as Hamas.
Omg, get a life.
Lol
I mean she is just as guilty but not for as bad of a crime as
Yes madame congresswoman that so called harvard president should resign ..
From the party of “no censorship”
Why was Harvard ranked last in free speech out of every university in the country? Lmfao
Oh they LOVE censorship, just not when it comes to certain topics...
This does not come under the heading of censorship. This is evil that needs to be condemned never to be heard of again. Just like no one would go around calling for lynchings of black people.
@@j4genius961 Yeah, like promoting genocide, amirite?
@@j4genius961Would you sing the same tune if there were calls for Black genocide? Didn't think so.
Freedom of Speech for thee, and Suppression of Speech and Truth for others.🤔 How does that Work 😳 😮🇺🇸
Freedom of speech is not calling for violence and eliminating a whole country…or maybe you need to learn what Intifada and From the river to the sea means!
It’s called dictatorship and banana republic
Thank you Stefanik! You are a wholesome human with integrity! May God Bless you and your family!🙏
that's a joke if you knew her
@@CastleMcwhat do you mean?
Seriously?!?! Ppl wake up!!!
@@traphut1093loud, but no context…if you are not going to say what she did that upset you, then you are just another loud mouth with nothing to say.
Wouldn't the conduct of calling for genocide, be actually committing genocide? At least they will act when Jews are actually being slaughtered. Or, so she says on camera. Be very interesting to see what their response would be if people were calling for the extermination of a different group or race. I think I can guess that it would be taken much more seriously.
I wonder how the response would have been if it wasn’t Jews, but the gender people that was called for slaughter…
We know from Canada, that it is enough to refuse calling the genders by the linguistically correct pronouns. You have to go to special correction classes at your own expense, or risk your job.
Calling for genocide apparently isn’t as serious as refusing to warp the language.
It is appalling at best.
Steve Jobs as closing
- the bozo explosion…
Tell the representative that college campuses are meant to challenge and educate... not to push narrow narratives.
Maybe you should tell yourself that very thing.
Mind Begs the Question:
- When one can't call a Govt/Nation Nazi
- Who use Starvation,Death Camps,Gas Chambers/White Phosphorus,Pogroms,Ethnic Cleansing,etc
- Living in Free World or Nazi World?
Calling for the death of people based on their race, religion or creed is not an intellectual challenge
It’s hate speech
Challenge and educate the pro genocide of Jews position? Naw…
@@Ivan.A.Churlyuskiyou don't want them to challenge the genocide? odd
Nadine gay doesn't understand freedom of expression vs hate speech, liar
Yes or No
Wow is she a robot? She is talking in circle and someone taught her how to talk like that.
Who is even shocked? Don’t go to this college
Conduct? what are you waiting for, until they commit the crime? It is shame.
Poor leadership
Well... yes? Thought policing is always bad
When I was in school, the teachers told us we should always challenge the conventional narrative.
The conventional narrative that mass genocide is bad?
@@ashleyc.6607 No such narrative was referenced or even obliquely alluded to in this video. What is your IQ and education?
To be sure, there _is_ a genocide ongoing, unequivocally and incontrovertibly, but this brute fact constitutes a preterition on _your_ part.
The American left have lost the plot.
@@ashleyc.6607 well there's one side to this conflict actually capable of committing genocide and we're seeing what that looks like in Gaza.
@@ashleyc.6607The Jews are the owners and rulers of the United States.
These officials are the worst examples of knowledgeable, responsible and capable public officials. How are they even employed?
She’s a black lesbian. How do you think she became president at Harvard? by her own merit? 😂 this is what happens with affirmative action and hiring for diversity.. under qualified and incompetent losers that are arrogant.
It’s called network
Weren't these the people that were claiming a few years ago that words are violence?
The Jews are the owners and rulers of the United States.
And to think that Harvard (Havad, as the elite say, lol) was started as a school to train preachers in the Gospel. Stefanik is right, one has the right to "free speech", yet can not "yell fire" (if no fire) in a theater, as that is what this Harvard president is suggesting! Writing for the Court, Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr., argued that:
"words which, ordinarily and in many places, would be within the freedom of speech protected by the First Amendment may become subject to prohibition when of such a nature and used in such circumstances as to create a clear and present danger that they will bring about the substantive evils which Congress has a right to prevent."
Intifadha is not antisemitic word
It means revolution in english
And it is the right of any human being
It is the same thing that Americans did against British army
The fact that she couldn't answer the question and just kept repeating the same garbage shows she has failed miserably. Also this chik is a dr? doesn't seem too bright. Kudos to Stefanik
That Harvard president is more of a symbol and affirmative action in play than real talent. No eloquence no great speech or replies just plain and meaningless statements prepared in advance on crumbled pieces of paper (damn she needed notes) shameful...
When I was young I thought that the famous phrase: Never again, symbolized the commitment of the world to protect people, especially the Jewish people, from being mass killed by satanic evil. On October 7th, 2023 and in the following days, I learned that the true meaning of Never again clearly emerges from the recognition of the utter failure of humanity not just to provide such protection but even just to verbally express the expected support. The true meaning is that the Jewish people as well as the state of Israel will never again trust their fate with any other but themselves. The world has lost its credibility as well as any moral grounds in this matter and this is going to stay like that from now on.
It is far worse than that. Not only can "the world" not be trusted to enforce "Never again", from what I understand from both the Responses of the Harvard and Penn Presidents that "the world" can even prepare the implements of Genocide (Concentration camps and Gas Chambers) and announce its intention to commit genocide, but will only be held accountable for "harassment" once they start putting Jews into the implements of Genocide!
Exactly. And just days after that heinous event of Oct 7, committed by known terrorists Hamas, the morally sick student groups at Harvard issued a statement BLAMING the victims of that terrorist attack, saying it was "all" their fault. True antisemitism and something I thought I would never see.
As long as people don’t change, never again will happen again.
It was proven true in Africa and in the Balkan war…
Both these occasions are after WWII.
But I am all in for never again actually being never again
So obviously, I stand with Israel 🇮🇱
If they trust themselves why do they get American money?
@@Hans_Magnusson Me, too. I can't believe this antisemitism is taking hold. I'm not Jewish, but in my wildest dreams I never imagined the world could start to talk like old 1940 Germany again. We are in sickened times.
They are afraid because they can no longer control the Narrative...its too late we KNOW who you are
If those that were chanting and rallying to end of the Jews people were chanting and rallying to end Black people, what would she say then?
Pretty Simple Right!
Bullseye. Organisms like her r void of common sense and reasoning; they only try to LIE their way outta the obvious hole they're in.
Ask her if we would say that about black people what would Harvard do
We know what would happen and there in lies the selective outrage that has made so many on the left leave the Democratic party.
Great point !
Omg...fire that racists woman, OMG WTF..
Stefanik needs to take her cucumber home and dream sweet dreams of Gym Jordan 😂😂.
So true. Don't forget Trump!
She should be removed from Harvard
I think people needs to, no! MUST pull any and all funding/contributions to any of these schools. This is beyond ridiculous. Just proves how ignorant academics are now.
This is the best example of the old adage "those that do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it" ive ever seen. This is exactly the kind of dissembling, dishonest language that people were using after world war one in germany that lead to the rise of facism.
Obviously racist and unacceptible language was allowed because suddenly people couldnt quite bring themselves to do anything about it and then the next thing you know that language suddenly becomes the norm.
And the language you use tells more than you think!
"Intifada, either of two popular uprisings of Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip aimed at ending Israel’s occupation of those territories and creating an independent Palestinian state" Encyclopedia Britanica
I guess all you learn at Harvard is a meaningless word salad in place of a definitive "Yes or No". I like clarified and Justified answers. It takes commitment and dedication. Harvard is just a Darwin Award. Put that on your resume.
And the students said NO to genocide and murder of the Palestinians. They are watching a holocaust in real time.... They are free to think and say what they want..if you don't like it ...leave.
@@tarobinson7411 What an ignorant, uneducated comment. You have no idea of the difference between the holocaust and heinous terrorism. Let's hope you never have any influence on anyone with your child-like mentality and blatant ignorance.
The Jews are the owners and rulers of the United States.
If society keeps insisting on rewarding people for the color of their skin or the genetalia between their legs instead of the actual merit they have to do a job, this will continue. Humanity should expect large scale breakdown of services, institutions and progress in the.coming years until things get so bad people will demand a return to meritocracy.
This is just another right-wing nationalist repeating phrases that have been taught to him. It is likely that his academic average does not allow him to pass beyond the walls of Harvard University
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So when the genocide is executed, they at Harvard, after robust scrutiny, have every belief that the possibility, given context of course, that they may identify that genocide as potentially possibly genocide.
How much did stefanik get from AIPAC through the years 🤔
She’s saying their code of conduct has to become physical. I don’t know how Harvard can change their policy. A board? The president?
Answers like a mobster in a trial
Boycott harvard!!!
Neither one of them knows the actual meaning of "Intifada". So when Stefanik lies about it, Gay's ignorance prevents her from handling the situation by simply pointing out the lie. Shame on them both.
I hope all tax money is taken away from these facilities.
Won't happen unless you vote Republican across the board. You would think American Jews would wise up and start voting R.
Te donors are already doing that, taxpayers should follow suit.
Apparently they have failed to deliver!
What do you mean by these facilities?
@@billreed2423, What does that have to do with voting Republican? you are giving a bad rap to the republican party. It's people like you that are making it harder for the Republican party to win.
Why are you turning this into political propaganda? Educational institutions do not pay taxes on their educational facilities and income. @@billreed2423
She needs to be Fired ASAP !!!
Nice haircut.
Humans are the only living beings whose face turns red. This woman is not ashamed, she does not resign.
Thank you 🙏 very Much 👍 God Bless You and ❤ Your Family Amen.
GOD BLESS WHO< STEFANIK IS ANTISIMETIC
such a Karen
the Harvard president was the smartest person in the room
I noticed the UPenn. president had to look at the ceiling and think before answering yes or no questions.
This is a big reason why the United States is in big trouble with wokeness and liberal schools not being held accountable for their actions
you guys don't actually want free speech.
You should read Israeli professor Shlomo Sand's book, "The Invention of the Jewish People." 😅
This Harvard DEI hire is terrible. She should be let go. She will do nothing.
Thank you Stefanik.
Let’s be clear: First Amendment protections have never been interpreted to prohibit punishment of expression that threatens to materially disrupt the safe functioning of government or incitement of others to commit acts of violence or other illegal acts. If such speech is directed toward actually inciting such illegal conduct and the advised conduct is imminent or immediate, the speech can be punished.
When it comes to “free speech” and the advocacy of illegal conduct and crimes, society does not need to wait until the exhorted activity takes place to have an interest in punishing those whose objective it is to incite the commission of crimes and acts of violence. Analogously, one who lights the fuse to a bomb can be punished without waiting for the bomb itself to go off.
Then that should equally apply to Citizens advocating for attacks on Palestinian civilians, no? Which means quite a few people should be resigning.
Ressign! Resign! Enough is enough!
Dr. Gay, haha!
Trump should give a speech at Harvard, MIT, and UPenn.
Maybe after he is released from prison in about 95 years.
Penn State, Harvard, California University System.
So much for Higher education.
Thank you for the truth, you are amazing 🙏💙🇮🇱💪👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Ah ha - now we know what’s rotten at Harvard .
What has happened to America?!?
Lo mismo me pregunto.
We don’t want her as the president, I hope she gets fined when she leaves
Why is so hard to understand that speech and actions are two entirely different things?
It’s her only chance to slip away from accusations…
To try to get you to accept her narrative
This is what happens when persons get appointed based upon affirmative action
That sounds racist.