I don't have that problem but will keep this information in my gray matter in case the problem occurs. Mine is an 853 but I'm pretty sure it would be the same setup. Thanks for taking the time to educate me.
I owe you! I have a 2000 863 I always new bob car is at the bottom of reliability and quality, but the dealer service plays the biggest part, they charged me for that and many othe things when I took ot in. It happened again 6 months later, I was about to take it back to them, even when. They told me they ware not going to do waranty, but I saw your video. Thanks !!!
Scipio, Thank you VERY much! We try very hard to make the videos easy to understand and not miss much and we always love to hear when we get it right! Hope you are having a fantastic weekend! -Shane
That is a common thing to go wrong... Happened to my skid steer last year. It was a bit of a hassle but I was sure glad I could fix it myself and didn't have to wait for the shop to get around to it!
I having a similar issue but I'll look at that solenoid my foot controls are locked but I don't think the tilt light is off but my accessories work fine
Thanks for the view and the comment Melicoy! Older Bobcats can certainly be a handful... Sometimes it sure feels like one issue after the other, but I usually get happy with having one around again when I am able to do a big job that I just couldnt have accomplished without it. That said, I do think more seriously all the time about buying a newer machine. Are you going to just do without? Or are you contemplating a different brand of machine? Have a super day! -Shane
If has been sitting for a while possibly a hydro value stuck open or shut but electric over hdyrdo so could be wire or the cylinoid it self. That bare wire I'd wrap with electric tape to keep it from rubbing the coating off. I liked the case 1845 1840 they was good machines the 90xt the last good case the caterpillar 289 track machines are easy to get to to work on but the first caterpillar 226 was based of the Melroe IR machines with case either case controls hand or the new one handle front and backwards and the other loader and bucket but the caterpillar 259 289 very good machines and to my on knowledge don't catch fire. I just say this because I rented a new bobcat and the sells guy tells me to get renters insurance because there is a hose that comes lose in the bottom and one has caught fire so that threw me off and would not buy one after that you'd think if knowing that's a problem they'd fix it but hey insurance works I guess. The 743 843 melroe were good machines when IR took over they went down hill. They had Kubota motors in them or duiez diesel. The John deere loders alright but had problems with a bolt that keeps the bucket pins in and they fall out when grading more than once. The track machines don't rut as bad and beat you up the tracks lgp. The early new Holland loaders good before they changed but the late 80s early 90 new Holland good the design put the motor out back a bit more for weight and the loader arms go up and out for loading trucks. The high bed trucks every loader is at is peak just to dump so depends what the operator likes but the high body beds you have to get your tracks or wheel right on the rear tires and may bust a wheel cap on the truck but thsts construction it happens nobody got killed
Usually a foot pedal that wont move is going to be a stuck or jammed linkage. Lift the cab and wiggle the linkage for that pedal and I will guess you will find the problem Good luck and let us know what you find! -Shane
I shimed mine then slap it back in the pedal locks I welded them in and auxiliary we built a set screw to turn the ho on and off I tried replacing them it could of been several grand with computer harnesses and handle I spent about 100 at machine shop my buddy makes them so they cant break if it's just simple wire like your I'd fix but mine was everything
Gary. I'm curious how you fixed yours. Mine is giving me a 17_06 error. Ground issue. I replaced solenoid nothing. I tried to find loose ground nothing. It wi randomly work perfectly for a while the. Not lift or tilt for months . I will reread what you wrote again but I'm not sure I understand what you did
I got a Bobcat 873 with a no Tilt or Lift problem. Grandpa filled the hydraulic tank with diesel fuel by mistake and ran that mixture through the system. At first it locked up the whole machine, No lift or tilt and the wheels wouldn't move. Since then we were able to by pass the Bobcat safety protection valve for the wheels to unlock them. But can not locate the one for the arms or tilt. With the oil and Diesel mixture now all the way in the hydraulic system, and been sitting for 5 plus years. would that mixture deteariate the seals in the cylinders ?
I couldn't say for certain but my instinct would be that the seals should be fine since diesel fuel is basically a light grade of oil and while it would not have the viscosity needed to allow pressure to be built up to function as a hydraulic fluid it should be pretty easy on the seals I believe. Grandpa can sure be forgiven for making a mistake like that. I have to remember to check the picture on the caps closely every time I fuel up the machine to keep from getting it wrong myself. Be sure to let us know what you determine as you go forward with the repair! My 50 cents is bet on the seals are still just fine. Stay safe and stay healthy! -Shane
@@AHandleOnThings Thank you, I'm gonna have to do some more digging on it then. But I will surely let yall know what i determined to be the cause, since its not a typical cause for a no lift or tilt. Its an older machine that sits outside all year round, so i wanna try and fix it before the first snow fall.
Strange that I have that same 17-07 code and the lift and tilt light slowly flashes, but I don't have any problem with it lifting or tilting or driving or anything. Since I bought this used, could it have been fixed by the previous owner and the code wasn't cleared? Or do you not have to clear codes like you do on a car?
Greetings from Alaska, my dad has a similar bobcat like yours, a little bit of an older model, 753 got it in the mid 90s. Our bobcat arm are able to goes up, but not able to go down (unless I shut the engine off and use the foot pedal) this goes for the same of the tilt, able to go down but not up. However, if I hit the aux power to on position (with two green lights on). Then we are able to move the arms and bucket with no issue. Any insights would be greatly appreciated. I look at the schematics and read forums and one guy said that your stem/coil could be stuck.
Kin, Because it is a very inexpensive starting point I would change the coil just to rule that out in the event that isn't the problem. The options behind that are quite a bit more involved. I think the other guy is probably right and the coil is likely the problem Give 'er a try and let us know!! Stay safe brother! -Shane
I have a 2016 s510 where the loft and tilt struggles unless its full throttled not sure if theres an issue or what but im lost as to what the problem could be.
I'm not familiar with that model, sorry. If it were me, I would look to filters tho since I do have similar issues when my hyd fluid gets extremely cold and flows poorly Merry Christmas! -Shane
Todd, Sorry for the delayed response, I have been down with the sickness, That sounds like a leaky valve that is allowing pressure to release either inside or outside the system. That can be hard to track down. I would call your local repair shop, let them know what machine you have and just ask them what they would guess. Chances are it is a common issue with whatever machine you are running and it may or may not be an easy fix! Let us now what you find! Stay safe! -Shane
Vinny, I would suggest to change the stem if it is damaged/deteriorated for sure. Same as for V-Plow? That makes it much more readily available! Thanks for that! Stay safe and stay healthy my friend! -Shane
Fawzan, Sweepers like mowers require a lot of fluid pressure, be sure to check that you have adequate flow and enough fluid in the tank. Some machines may require an extended holding tank for hydraulic fluid so watch for that. There really isnt all that much that can go wrong with a hydraulic motor so I would start there! Be sure to let us know what you learn! Stay safe! -Shane
Sit in the seat of the machine... Right behind your ankles when you are sitting in the machine you will find the metal cover for the fuse box (on many machines) open it up and have a look.... you very likely got something wet and popped a fuse in that fuse box. Let us know what you find ! -Shane
@@AHandleOnThings I check all the fuse and change the solenoid stills don't move on my interlock sistem I have 5 light seat sea bar and power still on light for Valve amd traction are off any idea please
Don't take this wrong... I don't know how much experience you have on the machine so I have to ask... You ARE pushing the green button on the lower left corner of the left side control pad that says "Operate Loader" after you start the machine right? -Shane
BTS, That sounds like a drive motor problem. If I had to guess you have a hydraulic issue affecting flow to one or more drive motors, Without more info and without actually being there, I couldnt make a better diagnosis. LEt us know what you found! Have a wonderful day. -Shane
So went out to my 753 circa 2000 +/- today to spread some gravel and I noticed a knocking noise directly under the seat on the right side about at my butt cheek. I could tell it was some type of solenoid. The pedals would not work unless I could time it just right in between knocks. I have no active warnings. When I put pressure on the pedals the knocking stops, but they will not move. I recently replaced a hydraulic cylinder and the system did get low on hydro oil before I could get it back to a place to work on it. I have used it since the cylinder was replaced and it was fine. Could this fix be it or would it be something a little more serious?
It could be this solenoid but (without being there) I would be thinking it could be an air lock (air bubble) in the hydraulic system. I would start with bleeding the hydraulics and if that didn't work I would call a service tech and ask them if they had any ideas but it sounds like an air lock to me. So minor problem is my instinct. Let us know how it comes out! Thanks and good luck, -Shane
Not a stupid question at all. I dont have the answer to it tho. I would give your local bobcat shop a call and ask for the procedure for your machine. A lot of them self-bleed as I understand it. Another thing to check would be if there is any gaskets from your previous repair that could be sucking air. Articles like this one lightningbay.com/signs-your-hydraulic-pump-could-be-failing/ Say that air in the system is a good bet the trick now is to find out where it is getting in at and how to go about getting it out. Sorry i can't be of more help brother. -Shane
@@AHandleOnThings So after making sure it had a full hydraulic tank and letting it sit for two days, all is well. Everything works like it did. I sure would like to know what was going on.
I'm going to bet that it was an air bubble in the system that dissipated. Whatever it was I'm sure glad your machine is back up and running brother Have a super day!
Alex, While I am not familiar with that machine, there are a handful of things that could be wrong with it ranging from a fuse, to a hydraulic spool valve, to electronics both easy and complex. If the price was good enough taking a chance on it might be a super deal for you but I just wouldn't know without being there. Let us know what you come up with! Have a super day -Shane
@@alexsgamingchannel3068 I think its good price but I would walk in and talk to a repair tech who is familiar with that machine and ask then what the possibilities are. It might be really simple and it might not be
I don't have that problem but will keep this information in my gray matter in case
the problem occurs. Mine is an 853 but I'm pretty sure it would be the same setup.
Thanks for taking the time to educate me.
I owe you! I have a 2000 863 I always new bob car is at the bottom of reliability and quality, but the dealer service plays the biggest part, they charged me for that and many othe things when I took ot in. It happened again 6 months later, I was about to take it back to them, even when. They told me they ware not going to do waranty, but I saw your video. Thanks !!!
I not speak English, i speak spanish but only whith see is very easy understand, it's a very good vídeo
Scipio, Thank you VERY much!
We try very hard to make the videos easy to understand and not miss much and we always love to hear when we get it right!
Hope you are having a fantastic weekend!
-Shane
That was my problem. Spot on, thanks!
My S175 has same issue and says "InPut" on the hour meter. I replaced left and right power panels and can't find any bad wires
Thanks just had my bobcat t190 do same thing shut it off and when i came back to troubleshoot .i started it and it worked okay?
That is a common thing to go wrong... Happened to my skid steer last year. It was a bit of a hassle but I was sure glad I could fix it myself and didn't have to wait for the shop to get around to it!
I do hate loading the Bobcat up and paying for repairs! I hope this helps others avoid that too!
Thanks for sharing this, I just recently got a 773 turbo bobcat and this just happened to me, I replaced the solenoid and it fixed it.
Aim small.
EXCELLENT!!!!!!!!!
I LOVE it when my videos help! Makes the time I put into them worth it!
Merry Christmas!
-Shane
I having a similar issue but I'll look at that solenoid my foot controls are locked but I don't think the tilt light is off but my accessories work fine
It's a 773 turbo
Thanks for the great video !!!
I fix this and will get RID of my BobCrap. Way too many issues
Thanks for the view and the comment Melicoy!
Older Bobcats can certainly be a handful... Sometimes it sure feels like one issue after the other, but I usually get happy with having one around again when I am able to do a big job that I just couldnt have accomplished without it. That said, I do think more seriously all the time about buying a newer machine. Are you going to just do without? Or are you contemplating a different brand of machine?
Have a super day!
-Shane
🤣😂😂 BobCrap... nothing like a Bobcrap.. you make my day man! Thanks. I got mine and same piece. have a good one.
If has been sitting for a while possibly a hydro value stuck open or shut but electric over hdyrdo so could be wire or the cylinoid it self. That bare wire I'd wrap with electric tape to keep it from rubbing the coating off. I liked the case 1845 1840 they was good machines the 90xt the last good case the caterpillar 289 track machines are easy to get to to work on but the first caterpillar 226 was based of the Melroe IR machines with case either case controls hand or the new one handle front and backwards and the other loader and bucket but the caterpillar 259 289 very good machines and to my on knowledge don't catch fire. I just say this because I rented a new bobcat and the sells guy tells me to get renters insurance because there is a hose that comes lose in the bottom and one has caught fire so that threw me off and would not buy one after that you'd think if knowing that's a problem they'd fix it but hey insurance works I guess. The 743 843 melroe were good machines when IR took over they went down hill. They had Kubota motors in them or duiez diesel. The John deere loders alright but had problems with a bolt that keeps the bucket pins in and they fall out when grading more than once. The track machines don't rut as bad and beat you up the tracks lgp. The early new Holland loaders good before they changed but the late 80s early 90 new Holland good the design put the motor out back a bit more for weight and the loader arms go up and out for loading trucks. The high bed trucks every loader is at is peak just to dump so depends what the operator likes but the high body beds you have to get your tracks or wheel right on the rear tires and may bust a wheel cap on the truck but thsts construction it happens nobody got killed
Hi
What's the name of that valve?
My left foot pedal which is the lift control wont move but the tilt pedal is fine. could this still be the same solenoid issue?
Usually a foot pedal that wont move is going to be a stuck or jammed linkage. Lift the cab and wiggle the linkage for that pedal and I will guess you will find the problem
Good luck and let us know what you find!
-Shane
I shimed mine then slap it back in the pedal locks I welded them in and auxiliary we built a set screw to turn the ho on and off I tried replacing them it could of been several grand with computer harnesses and handle I spent about 100 at machine shop my buddy makes them so they cant break if it's just simple wire like your I'd fix but mine was everything
Gotta love it when you can save a ton of cash!! Great job!
Gary. I'm curious how you fixed yours. Mine is giving me a 17_06 error. Ground issue.
I replaced solenoid nothing. I tried to find loose ground nothing. It wi randomly work perfectly for a while the. Not lift or tilt for months . I will reread what you wrote again but I'm not sure I understand what you did
I got a Bobcat 873 with a no Tilt or Lift problem. Grandpa filled the hydraulic tank with diesel fuel by mistake and ran that mixture through the system. At first it locked up the whole machine, No lift or tilt and the wheels wouldn't move. Since then we were able to by pass the Bobcat safety protection valve for the wheels to unlock them. But can not locate the one for the arms or tilt. With the oil and Diesel mixture now all the way in the hydraulic system, and been sitting for 5 plus years. would that mixture deteariate the seals in the cylinders ?
I couldn't say for certain but my instinct would be that the seals should be fine since diesel fuel is basically a light grade of oil and while it would not have the viscosity needed to allow pressure to be built up to function as a hydraulic fluid it should be pretty easy on the seals I believe.
Grandpa can sure be forgiven for making a mistake like that. I have to remember to check the picture on the caps closely every time I fuel up the machine to keep from getting it wrong myself.
Be sure to let us know what you determine as you go forward with the repair! My 50 cents is bet on the seals are still just fine.
Stay safe and stay healthy!
-Shane
@@AHandleOnThings Thank you, I'm gonna have to do some more digging on it then. But I will surely let yall know what i determined to be the cause, since its not a typical cause for a no lift or tilt. Its an older machine that sits outside all year round, so i wanna try and fix it before the first snow fall.
Strange that I have that same 17-07 code and the lift and tilt light slowly flashes, but I don't have any problem with it lifting or tilting or driving or anything. Since I bought this used, could it have been fixed by the previous owner and the code wasn't cleared? Or do you not have to clear codes like you do on a car?
Well, I cant speak for all bobcats, but my on machine, the code reset all by itself.
Let us know what you find out when you get it sorted out !
-Shane
Howdy, my bobcat arm is raising even when I press the down pedal. No tilt functions and blinking traction light.. any suggestions?
Sounds like you have an o-ring out in your valve body that is keeping fluid from being directed properly
Let us know what you find out!
-Shane
Greetings from Alaska, my dad has a similar bobcat like yours, a little bit of an older model, 753 got it in the mid 90s. Our bobcat arm are able to goes up, but not able to go down (unless I shut the engine off and use the foot pedal) this goes for the same of the tilt, able to go down but not up. However, if I hit the aux power to on position (with two green lights on). Then we are able to move the arms and bucket with no issue. Any insights would be greatly appreciated. I look at the schematics and read forums and one guy said that your stem/coil could be stuck.
Kin,
Because it is a very inexpensive starting point I would change the coil just to rule that out in the event that isn't the problem.
The options behind that are quite a bit more involved.
I think the other guy is probably right and the coil is likely the problem
Give 'er a try and let us know!!
Stay safe brother!
-Shane
I have a 2016 s510 where the loft and tilt struggles unless its full throttled not sure if theres an issue or what but im lost as to what the problem could be.
I'm not familiar with that model, sorry.
If it were me, I would look to filters tho since I do have similar issues when my hyd fluid gets extremely cold and flows poorly
Merry Christmas!
-Shane
I have a jcb skid steer leader 135 and it doesn't move and the park break doesn't release
Can you help me
Thanks
Did u figure out why park brake didn't release I have jcb 1110 ty
I’m having a similar problem but my bucket and lift moves after awhile or if I shovel out my bucket then it moves again, is there a possible sensor?
Todd,
Sorry for the delayed response, I have been down with the sickness,
That sounds like a leaky valve that is allowing pressure to release either inside or outside the system.
That can be hard to track down. I would call your local repair shop, let them know what machine you have and just ask them what they would guess. Chances are it is a common issue with whatever machine you are running and it may or may not be an easy fix!
Let us now what you find!
Stay safe!
-Shane
Do you suggest to change the stem also? That solidiod is the same as for the v plow
Vinny,
I would suggest to change the stem if it is damaged/deteriorated for sure.
Same as for V-Plow? That makes it much more readily available! Thanks for that!
Stay safe and stay healthy my friend!
-Shane
Hi sir. Bobcat 130 sweeper not working. How to check pls give idea.
Fawzan,
Sweepers like mowers require a lot of fluid pressure, be sure to check that you have adequate flow and enough fluid in the tank.
Some machines may require an extended holding tank for hydraulic fluid so watch for that. There really isnt all that much that can go wrong with a hydraulic motor so I would start there!
Be sure to let us know what you learn!
Stay safe!
-Shane
Just thanks for sharing info....
Good job
I have bobcat 773 after I wash the interior I lost the light for lift and traction please help me
Sit in the seat of the machine... Right behind your ankles when you are sitting in the machine you will find the metal cover for the fuse box (on many machines) open it up and have a look.... you very likely got something wet and popped a fuse in that fuse box.
Let us know what you find !
-Shane
@@AHandleOnThings I check all the fuse and change the solenoid stills don't move on my interlock sistem I have 5 light seat sea bar and power still on light for Valve amd traction are off any idea please
Don't take this wrong... I don't know how much experience you have on the machine so I have to ask... You ARE pushing the green button on the lower left corner of the left side control pad that says "Operate Loader" after you start the machine right?
-Shane
ماهوا الخلل عندما يتحرك ويمشي جهة والأخرى تتوقف مثلا تريد تمشي والى الامام وتتحرك جهة لدينا خلل
BTS,
That sounds like a drive motor problem.
If I had to guess you have a hydraulic issue affecting flow to one or more drive motors,
Without more info and without actually being there, I couldnt make a better diagnosis.
LEt us know what you found!
Have a wonderful day.
-Shane
So went out to my 753 circa 2000 +/- today to spread some gravel and I noticed a knocking noise directly under the seat on the right side about at my butt cheek. I could tell it was some type of solenoid. The pedals would not work unless I could time it just right in between knocks. I have no active warnings. When I put pressure on the pedals the knocking stops, but they will not move. I recently replaced a hydraulic cylinder and the system did get low on hydro oil before I could get it back to a place to work on it. I have used it since the cylinder was replaced and it was fine. Could this fix be it or would it be something a little more serious?
It could be this solenoid but (without being there) I would be thinking it could be an air lock (air bubble) in the hydraulic system. I would start with bleeding the hydraulics and if that didn't work I would call a service tech and ask them if they had any ideas but it sounds like an air lock to me.
So minor problem is my instinct.
Let us know how it comes out!
Thanks and good luck,
-Shane
@@AHandleOnThings Thanks for yuor answer. Another stupid question. How do I bleed the hydraulic system?
Not a stupid question at all. I dont have the answer to it tho. I would give your local bobcat shop a call and ask for the procedure for your machine. A lot of them self-bleed as I understand it. Another thing to check would be if there is any gaskets from your previous repair that could be sucking air. Articles like this one
lightningbay.com/signs-your-hydraulic-pump-could-be-failing/
Say that air in the system is a good bet the trick now is to find out where it is getting in at and how to go about getting it out.
Sorry i can't be of more help brother.
-Shane
@@AHandleOnThings So after making sure it had a full hydraulic tank and letting it sit for two days, all is well. Everything works like it did. I sure would like to know what was going on.
I'm going to bet that it was an air bubble in the system that dissipated.
Whatever it was I'm sure glad your machine is back up and running brother
Have a super day!
Good video
Thanks IJGT!
Have a great weekend!
-Shane
Thank you
Elijah,
Happy to help brother.
Thank YOU for taking time to comment!
Have a super day!
-shane
thanks for sharing this vid
Antonio,
Sorry for the late response, I have been pretty sick for awhile. Better now tho!
Thanks a ton for the comment brother!
-Shane
Or it could just be that the front window isn’t fully locked
Sir written in hindi on the screen
A guy is selling a cat 252b and the functions won’t unlock
Alex,
While I am not familiar with that machine, there are a handful of things that could be wrong with it ranging from a fuse, to a hydraulic spool valve, to electronics both easy and complex.
If the price was good enough taking a chance on it might be a super deal for you but I just wouldn't know without being there.
Let us know what you come up with!
Have a super day
-Shane
@@AHandleOnThings ok he wants 6,500 u think it’s a price for it it runs but doesn’t unlock the function
@@alexsgamingchannel3068 I think its good price but I would walk in and talk to a repair tech who is familiar with that machine and ask then what the possibilities are. It might be really simple and it might not be
@@AHandleOnThings ok