China, Indonesia discuss extending Jakarta high-speed railway
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China and Indonesia have discussed potentially extending Indonesia’s high-speed railway, after Chinese Premier Li Qiang took a test ride of the line in the capital Jakarta on September 6, 2023. The launch date of the Beijing-funded project has been repeatedly delayed. The railway is now set to open sometime in September 2023.
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我是上海人，真的很高兴看到铁路通车，中国人自古没有对外扩张的思想，事实上如果你了解中国历史就会发现，我们是一次一次被侵略，然后反而用文化同化了侵略者，导致领土反而扩大了😂。
帮助印度尼西亚造铁路，也是因为近十年中国高铁工业发展太快，很快就把国内造完了，结果产能过剩，只能输出了。
中国有句古话，要想富，先修路，事实证明，中国人力成本也不便宜了，但是产品依然廉价，主要依赖庞大的铁路和高品质的公路，如果你们来中国，你们就会发现中国也许就是那个未来之国。
别听西方媒体胡乱造谣，中国公民过的很好，中国政府需要带动14亿人变富，根本没时间盯你个无足轻重的人。
中国也有句古话，穷山恶水出刁民，新中国刚成立，中国比非洲都穷，那时候到处都是土匪，但现在，连小偷几年基本都看不到一个了。
希望大家都能越来越富裕，这样也没整天打打杀杀，谁保护谁的说法了。
曾经有很多中国人在印尼🇲🇨被杀害，这其实是中国人民心中永远的痛，我学生时代也看过纪录片，中国也没拿印尼怎么样，因为这可能会产生深远的仇恨。就像我们和印度一样，我们拿印度挺无语的，但印度天天想着和我们争。希望你们未来能有个靠谱总统吧，让这份游戏能长久。
对了和中国交朋友有啥好处？中国是世界上唯一总有全科技门类全产业链的国家，最近也突破了自主7nm芯片了。美国有的我们都有，美国没有的我们也有，我们能实实在在帮助东盟国家发展经济互利共赢。
中国人真不喜欢打仗，而是更喜欢做生意，让大家都物质水平得到提高。
唉可惜你们身处一个民主社会，政策很可能没有延续性，谁也不知道下一任领导人，给你们带来的是进步还是灾难。
Great words
hello chinazi
@@XJPig8964🤡
9 garis putus putus..
in china we trust 🎉🎉❤
Even with over runs and delays a train network is still worth it. It's better for the environment than planes and its a much more comfortable experience for the passengers. It's win-win!
hsr is a mass transportation ,riders in one train are probably equal to 40-50 flights depending on seatings of the plane.
To be fair, over the 3 years of COID-9, everhing is delayed.
Cost overun because of the delay from covid and also land aquisition
Investing in public transit is worth all its costs
lol, you forgot to mention how much land is used for the rail line and how big is the impact to the environment, go home do some research before posting bs
The high speed train in Indonesia will be in commercial operation sooner or later no matter what. Indonesia will be the first ASEAN country having high speed train. 👍
Kudos to indonesia👍 cause in many countries these projects are still on paper
My inddia Got Sca mmed by Japan
Laos has had high speed train since April 2023.
@@Waingro808its semi hsr, not the true hsr. This indonesian bullet train has max speed of 385kmh and operational speed of 350kmh
Dis projek bettur giif to jepain, koriia or Amerikka. Dheir haigh speed trein teknologhee is prooven maach bettur dhan cpp tofu collaepsiing trein as predikted by Amerikkan heeroo Gordoon Cang
Delayed for a few months is still years ahead of other delayed high-speed rail projects in other countries.
Indonesia should be overjoyed of this massive successful projects.
in India just finished 10kms out of 500kms project.
@@wallace6228 ten years ,10kms
@@wallace6228180 done u fool
@wallace6228 so need 500 years to finish to 500 km
In the Philippines, railway system are poor especially in Quezon Province where no railways caused massive poverty, lack of infrastructure and informal settlers(which I hate the most) which is only modernized the railway system in Western Calabarzon including North South Commuter Railway and LRT Expansion which brings development if a new railway system was developed
From the day when I was born until now, I never ride the trains yet but if I visit Indonesia, I will ride the modern train there including Jakarta LRT and Commuter Train, plus long distance trains so I hope to visit Indonesia next year
And now the current administration will cancel the China funded railway project😂
Stay there in indonesia. We have enough people here in the philippines. One less person to cause traffic, NICE!!!!!!
@@ruztomjohntamayo9262 Yeah then they find someone else
Phillipines should follow its white master. Cancel all connection with China, we don't need an american 4sskisser in asean
My Indian trains can carry passengers on the train's roof also.
*_saya sebagai orang indonesia keturunan china,saya merasa bangga dengan adanya kereta cepat ini,_*
_sebenarnya indonesia bisa memproduksi kereta api sendiri dan juga bisa memproduksi LRT sendiri,tapi untuk kereta cepat ini indonesia belum mampu untuk memproduksi sendiri,_
*_tapi di masa akan datang perusahaan kerata api indonesia akan memproduksi kereta cepat sendiri,tapi masih menunggu waktu hingga tahun 2025,semoga berhasil._*
Jakarta Surabaya 3 jam les go
Ko bisa bahasa Mandarin kaga?
Trs bahasa Mandarin di China ada beda nya ga ko sm bahasa Mandarin Tionghoa yg ada di indonesia?
Serius nanya 😀
@@kecoaterbang6064
*_gue gak tau bahasa mandarin,ibu dan bapak gue juga gak tau bahasa mandarin,_*
_tapi nenek gue taulah sedikit2 bahasa mandarin._
@@kecoaterbang6064Lu kira bahasa kita cina? orang yang lahir di Indonesia berbahasa variasi standar bahasa melayu bro. 🤔
2045*. 2025 terlalu positif 😅
Western media said Debt Trap? Indonesian: 😂
Indonesia had lowest debt to gdp of 50 biggest countries.
1. Our GDP in 2022 is $1,4T
2. Our Ext Debt in 2022 is $400B 😂 (28%)
(Gov debt is $190B + Private Sector debt is $210B)
3. Our Foreign Reserve in 2022 is $130B
4. Our State-owned Ent Asset in 2022 is $650B
5. Our Natural Resources Asset in 2022 is $13T 😂
And the funny thing is, there are still westerners who think that we live in the forest, hanging from trees and don't know technology. 😂 They think this HSR project is a Chinese debt trap, and Indonesia will be like Sri Lanka. They don't realize that they are the obstacles to the progress of Indonesia and other Asian countries.
when Western countries such as U.S.A said Debt Trap, it only means why did you choose China instead of the West?
And i wonder , why they think we will bankcrupt 😂
@@ErvanJabbarit's typical west
West n US are jealous that Indonesia is ahead ,got better train !
I hope they can extend to Surabaya via Solo City which is my hometown, congratulations for the new HSR line and it can strengthten our ties with China 🙏
Not on NATO watch 😂
@user-kb3oz3zm8k who is NATO when we're dealing with Asia-Pacific activity
This requires the Indonesian government to also participate in investment! And I'm curious. The Yawan Railway planned to be put into trial operation last month, but the station has not been fully built yet. Is there any problem?
@@user-kb3oz3zm8kNATO? This is ASEAN. No one cares about NATO.
Congratulations to Indonesia! Love from Singapore 🇸🇬
@@user-kb3oz3zm8k mate, this is in ASEAN.
The most advanced railway is in my India. Our trains can carry passengers on the train's roof also.
Not a single train in India carries a passenger on the roof. 95% of the train is electrified, so how can someone sit on the top. I smell some jealousy and hatred spew.
@JAMRAJ2804 95% toilet trains also with cows atop the roof
@@JAMRAJ280450% ar still run in diesel so he's talking about those.
@@JAMRAJ2804nobody is jealous of poor India. 😂😂
@@JAMRAJ2804Jakarta's commuter train in the 90s already electric. But people still manages to sit on the roof. Death by electrocution is a thing back then.
So where are the nay-sayers a few years ago when the say it is impossible to build HSR in Indonesia? I want to see the look on their faces now.
I was disappointed when Jokowi finally chose China over Japan in the Jakarta-Bandung high-speed train project. This choice turned out to be the right one. If you look at high-speed train projects in other countries where Japan is the construction consortium, you can see that all the road projects are in delayed or even not running at all. In addition, Japan refused when Indonesia asked for ToT (Transfer of Technology) requirements in the project proposal. But China even agreed. For China, there is no need to be too stingy in technology transfer. Because actually railway technology in China is also the result of German technology transfer. With a touch of Chinese and German technology, we can see that China is now capable of building its own high-speed rail system. In fact, more than 40,000 km have been built throughout mainland China. Longest in the world. And now they are bringing their high speed train technology to Indonesia, they have even transferred the technology to Indonesia. In the next few years, the largest train manufacturing company in Indonesia, P.T INKA, will be able to produce its own high-speed trains as the result of transfer technology. Currently, the company is even developing a train with a speed of 180 km/hour (semi-fast train) which will probably be used in the future high speed rail projects on the islands of Sumatra and Sulawesi which already have track gauges that are suitable for high speed trains.
Can't wait seeing Indonesian Made high speed train in Sumatra and Sulawesi. In Sulawesi, the train top speed running 160 km/h. But operasional only 120 km/h. For Sumatra, i think needs build New track. Because the old track only 1,062 mm gauge.
@@muhammadariqfakhri9533it will take at least a hundred years until that happens 😂
@@muhammadariqfakhri9533yup. Not long anymore indonesia will become one of self sufficient country in high speed train manufacturer. Thanks to China 🇮🇩🇨🇳
@@picanha694lol jealous pajeet
The most important thing is that Japan requires lenders to provide sovereign guarantees and is unwilling to take any risks. The Indonesian high-speed railway is a risk guarantee provided by Bank of China.
When the Chinese Premier comes in and take a ride himself, this really shows the commitment effort the Chinese government has put into.
Congratz to Indonesia to having the first HSR in ASEAN, even SG and MY couldn't have it 🤣
Once the HSR is linked to even more places like Surabaya and maybe Sumatra in the future, Indonesia will become an even better country to live in.
There won't be so much overcrowding in Jakarta and hopefully, more people will be spread out to live in the other cities.
SG doesn't need HSR though. Its too small
Singapore just needs to have one HSR connection into its city. With HSR, it can link all the way up Malaysia to Thailand into China. Trade and labour issues will be greatly improved.
I always wonder if the average people in Jakarta-Surabaya can afford the ticket price which is definitely not soo affordable obviously
@@manusiaklon2164 Ikr Indonesia should have followed the India model, affordable and with a great view on the roof or by the door, take your pick!
@@Moepowerplant you have no idea how much this HSR train ticket will gonna cost you.. I bet domestic flight ticket is more cheap
Philippines chose the west. Indonesia chose the East. Who will prosper? Who will be next Ukraine?
Duterte please .
why is it surprising that the Philippines is now leaning more towards the west,,, because the current president hopes that his father's wealth will be returned by the CIA
You do realize that Indonesia is working with the US right?
Indonesia work with both, and rarely choose a side usually just being quiet
until china starts its trap hahahah they start crying in indoneshia
@@budisoemantri2303 Indonesia works with China for trains but works with the US to go to war with China 🤣
As Indonesian myself I am glad that Indonesia finally have HSR, even with the overbudget and a little delayed, we need to remember that HSR is build not for profiting themselves, but to boost growth of the region that their serv, if every big City in Java island like Jakarta, Bandung, Yogyakarta, Surabaya, Jember, Banyuwangi, Semarang, Cirebon are connected by HSR, every residents that need to travel in between big city can cut time and more convenient for them to either go to next business meeting or take a leisure trip because they have more time to spare. Also is more environmentally friendly compared to airplane.
agree. Profit is not main goal. The goal is toaster computers and little profit is essential.
Well said!
多分１年で廃墟になる。誰も乗らない。馬鹿なものに膨大な資金を使ったな！
Maintenance cost is huge for ＨＳＲ you should know
Sorry not agree. if it is not profitable, it means not sustainable. The company should profit, no investors want losses business. The government does not want to subsidize it since it will use a national budget to prioritize undeveloped regions outside Java. Do not be java-centric, be rational. Indonesia is a big country, and there are lots of people living in poverty lines in small islands.
I just hope Indonesia don’t fall in a debt trap by china
Salah satu proyek yg aku banggakan sebagai warga Indonesia. Menandakan kemajuan Indonesia dalam bidang transportasi khususnya transportasi massal. Walaupun ada kendala pembengkakan anggaran(cost overrun) dan keterlambatan waktu proyek, proyek bisa terwujud dengan baik adalah salah satu pencapaian yg luar biasa. Mengingat proyek kereta cepat setidaknya bisa mengurangi ketergantungan pesawat dalam bermobilitas dan mengurangi dampak polusi udara yg ditimbulkan dari pesawat. Aku sebagai warga Surabaya, berharap besar proyek ini diperpanjang hingga ke Surabaya.🙏
祝福印尼朋友
@@joker_0jdkTerima kasih kawan 🤗🙏
15% funded by Indonesia's money, 10% by China enterprise company and the rest 75% by debt (China).
The most shocking news is even though China only give 10% money to this project, they own 40% of the KCIC (Indonesia Fast Train) stocks permanently. And it's gonna takes +100 years for Indonesia to finish paying the debt.
Ingat anggaran pendidikan yang berkurang akibat APBN nya difokuskan untuk kereta cepat dan IKN. Puluhan ribu mahasiswa gagal kuliah akibat kuota beasiswa 2023 berkurang hampir 50%.
Belum lagi kehidupan sehari-hari yang makin susah akibat gas/listrik/bbm/pajak yang dinaikkan pemerintah.
Jadi sangat egois dan bodoh sekali orang-orang seperti anda.
@@Aiast97
75% from your mom
China has >41,000 km of high-speed rail (HSR) at 350 km/h.
Indonesia has >8,200 km of standard rail at 150 km/h made by INKA, our local railway SOE. ❤ Thanks to China, we have 142 km of HSR at 350 km/h now, we'll adopt new tech.
Some countries live in fear, some countries thrives on fear mongering of other countries, hence the need of power such as military bases. What do you get from those western military bases besides free life style, night clubs and prostitution? When you invite military power instead of cooperation, you'll attract missiles to be aimed at your cities.
Indonesia believes in fulfilling the needs of ordinary people and friendly cooperation with any country, thus this will be the first and the fastest High-speed train in south east Asia.
Thats right bro. That's the important point ❤👍
Meanwhile Japan and India hit huge delays for their joint rail project. It’s projected to be triple the original cost 😅
Delay is due to land acquisition.
That's because endians are hard to manage and stubborn, that's typical of Endians 🤗🕉️
While Indonesia have to pay huge amounts of debts and sold their nickel mines to China.
@@jm-rx4cm😂😂😂
@@jm-rx4cm gosh, this only shows how incompetent Modi's government.
just look at Manipur, 3 months of craziness and still on going
Hopefully this railway line will be extended to Surabaya and will be a commercial success✌️
how long will be the extension line? How much cost will be by estimation?
@@dadidadida123700 km
@@ranggarizkylaramadhan153 so it will cost alot.
I doubt China will be willing to invest that much solely in this project. Indonesia may have to source at least a portion of the funds.
It will be 750 kms
Oh yeah we are putting a 30 % equity on the usd 18 Billion 2nd phase HSR. Using the toll road networks for Southern Line
Congratulations Indonesia on your achievement 🙏
7.2 billion dollars spent to build 142 kilometers🤣🤣
1 kilomter is $50 million👍
All are chinese loans👍
@@RussianWomenAreProstitutes2Bro at least they are building in other countries its still in paper..And cost will be recovered
@@RussianWomenAreProstitutes2 with China, there is a train.. with america through its IMF there is control from america and expanding loan and it's interest and ZERO trains
@@RussianWomenAreProstitutes2 still better than american
@@AlphaCookieswith China there is Train... Debt trap... And acquiring ports and building military outposts
I hope the government can do as soon as possible ground breaking for fase 2 from Bandung to Surabaya 🇮🇩❤️🇨🇳
我认为在大宗商品降价时买入原材料更好，不然建设成本和预算都会增加。土地征收需要提前，拖的越久成本越高。
This requires the Indonesian government to also participate in investment! And I'm curious. The Yawan Railway planned to be put into trial operation last month, but the station has not been fully built yet. Is there any problem?
😂😂😂$7.2 billions gave to china for build 140 kms👍
@@Ukraine_827 7.2 billion US dollars is invested by China!
Yaass.. so I can visit my relatives in sby less than 6 hrs using train
Let's extend the route to Surabaya 🚆
Better infrastructure could only mean a lot of increased economic growth & improvement to the lives of Indonesians!
Now Vietnam wants to give up on Japan's hugely over-budget and 20 years (till 2035) on-going plan of building highspeed rail, and instead would like China's but China very hesitates doing highspeed rail for Vietnam because of many bad experience with Vietnam in the past.
Still causing, not past tense. I visited an orphanage in Vietnam a few years back and they have babies and kids abandoned at the orphanage due to visible deformities so their parents do not want them. So sad.@@Jonathan-jp4zz
What bad past? Unconditional support for arms and food for the Communist brothers to fight the Vietnam War? Or did it stop Vietnam's Soviet-backed ambition to dominate the Southeast Asia?
@@Jonathan-jp4zz because they are brainwashed by main stream media and hollywood
@@Jonathan-jp4zzafter USA left china invaded Vietnam and China lost. US invaded Vietnam once, china did it multiple times throughout their history.
@@navdeepsugandhi6476 No surprise to see an Indian lying.
Indonesia consists of many islands, hope that all of them can be connected through bridge and high speed railway.
印尼赚的钱只能修铁路了，印尼岛屿太多 ，这件事情几乎不可能实现，除非牺牲几代人的美好生活 拼命赚钱
@@jiasongwang5128 TransNusa use made in China Airplane for Indonesia domestic flight
Impossible
It is possible, but the bridges cost too much
China and Russia should kick India out of the Brics and replace them with Indonesia and Mexico.
Why ...is there any reason? 🤔
@@siddharthpatil1009 Search for it yourself, just on youtube. Indian netizens: We in the BRICS and SCO are doing everything to anti China.
If a country enters an organization it is to make trouble.
So why do you need this country?
It doesn't matter. BRICS+ isn't a security treaty or otherwise binding. It's decentralized and informal. If India (or Russia, or China, or Brasil) doesn't want to play ball, that's no concern because BRICS agreements are typically 1:1.
Jokowi still 50 50 idk why.. he still review it
China never sees india as a rival, its like two brothers growing up together, one became rich and powerful, one groew to be poor and bitter, usually successful people are less resentful.
Indian debt to gdp ratio 2023: 57,1%😂
Indonesia debt to gdp ratio 2023 : 30,3%
Similarly, India's GDP is also increasing and infrastructure is also getting stronger.
Due to this, if the export will increase in future, then the loan will also be reduced.
Meanwhile China claiming Indonesian territory
@@zojozojo-ox6wjReally? I live in India, and I don't see any infrastructure improvising. Except a few cities(and within thise cities, only certain places) all of India's infrastructure is depressing.
@@zojozojo-ox6wj The largest borrower of the AIIB and NDB is India.
I pity your knowledge
I don't think you know about internal and external debt
Well Indonesia train track is now faster than anything the US have 😂
As Japanese we regret to invest to your country because India highest corruption we've already given loan via ODA for build your mumbai - ahmedabad high speed train but was lacking due to your government corrupted... we have to leave India with chaotic country
You are probably a just wu mao clone army, pretending to be a japanese.
ada kali orang jepang subsribe raditya dika sama playlistnya kok ada atenx katros wkwkwk. bocil2
Wake up weebs, japan are bad rn. China technology are more developed
You are Indian all know
Japan is the little brother of the United States. Its role is to slow down the development of Asia.
Western media doubted China's HSR quality? 😂.They forgot Great Wall of China built in 771 BCE lasting for 2800 years and Borobudur of Indonesia built in 778 AD lasting for 1200 years. The Ancient Asia's advanced technology.
Looking forward to the high-speed rail connecting the whole Southeast Asia!
Wanjay kalo bener bs ampe surabaya sih ini bener2 gokil bgt
LEBAY NORAK
Tamparan Keras kepada Amerika Yang selalu menggemborkan HAM dan Demokrasi....... 😅
The route for extension line will be Jakarta - Bandung - Yogyakarta - Surabaya along 730 km. But shorter routes is through northern java. Jakarta-semarang -yogkarta along 700 km.
Shorter, cheaper and easier to build, due to the geographic.
Bandung is more important than Semarang since it is 3rd largest city by GDP of Indonesia after Jakarta and Surabaya
Top Indonesian cities by GDP
1. Jakarta $304 Billion
2. Surabaya $89 Billion
3. Bandung $38 Billion
4. Samarinda-Balikpapan metro $30 Billion
5. Medan $28 Billion
6. Semarang $26 Billion
7. Makassar $17 Billion
8. Palembang $16 Billion
9. Denpasar $10 Billion
10. Padang $6 Billion
Yogyakarta is not even on the top 10
@@blackbook2990
He didn't say that Bandung wasn't important. What he means, KCJB can be extended via Pantura, from Bandung - Cirebon - Semarang etc.
It will indeed cut distance and costs, but the construction of the Pansela route itself is for equitable development in the southern region of the island of Java.
We talk
We brag
We envy
We are P00R
The British-Raj and have no working HSR tracks.
Now, that makes more sense to connect to Surabaya instead of just to Bandung. My only criticism since the inception of the project.
Imagine the cost and how long it gonna take to build it until Surabaya. Are u sure people will accept it just like that? We gotta thankful at least they done it. Babies didnt run straight away, they crawl first then walk and finally run. U are asking for an impossible stuff.
@@hyokuraFrom the Kcic plan, this fast train will be built to Surabaya, and Jakarta-Bandung is phase 1
The feasibility study to continue to Surabaya is not even conducted yet. Not to mention the availability of the budget.
@@wiry7428 of course budget is always available. gov got you to pay tax, remember?
@@arwanasuperred1321the taxpayers' moneys are not only for financing HSR project. But also to finance health, education, defense, etc. Not to mention to finance another white elephant project to move the Capital to Borneo.
Bandung to Surabaya Will be smooth because the route following existing toll road.😊
Really like everything about Development Infrastructure of Indonesia. Its make a long jump 😮 and historical....🎉❤
they should extend the line throughout java island, and if possible to sumatra
I think it should be the next plan they have in mind already.
Need to write letters to Joko maybe.
This requires the Indonesian government to also participate in investment! And I'm curious. The Yawan Railway planned to be put into trial operation last month, but the station has not been fully built yet. Is there any problem?
No, the demand is low outside Java island to get HSR. The best option for Sumatera is to build a double track line of the current railway from lampung to Aceh and finish the toll road.
In the future they will build rail of fast train like in Sulawesi.
So the cost will reduced
Considering Indonesia's road infrastructure and China's experience in high-speed railway, linking up Jakarta and Surabaya is a no brainer...
The road and rail is constructed by china too. Indonesia doesn't have the technology to build the rail and road used by HSR.
The rail line would have been finished on the delivery date and on budget if it hadn't been for Covid and post-Covid inflation.
If both country willing, that would be a great news, even our people in Sumatera and the most east of Java pleading the government to extend the project... 😊😊😊 say goodbye no more to Traffic congestion during Ied Al-Fitr...
錢呢？
中國沒有義務來免費幫印尼建設鐵路。
@@weihaohuang983他们是一个富裕的国家 , 由于其自然资源. 我来自新加坡，抱歉普通话不好
@@weihaohuang983中国一般用低息贷款，出口铁路标准比贷款利润高。贷款更像是经济掠夺，但是出口标准可以带动更多人就业。不仅是中国国内的就业，包括印度尼西亚也可以获得更多的就业。这就是中国提出的“共同富裕”
@@user-jv5dh5yb4x Indonesia has too many island, TransNusa also use made in China airplane for domestic flight, cheaper than made in Indonesia airplane.
Finally weve got our first speed train. INDONESIA my motherland that I love her so much
Thank you China. We hope we can collaborate again in Surabaya, East Java.
Thanks china for ToT (Transfer Of Technology) about HSR to our motherland (Ibu pertiwi) Indonesia
Name the ToT.
@@wiry7428 Bruh, ToT means Transfer of Technology, basically China is willing to exchange her knowledge to this project
@@wiry7428 Japan never does this
@@wiry7428 KCIC (Kereta Cepat Indonesia China) you can browsing bro.. They even have a website on it, just type kcic
@@taknaknak4957 So, will Indonesia itself build future projects? Then why are talks going on with China?🤔
If jokowi request most probabbly will go ahead ..
In the future we hope that the discussion on building a bridge from Batam to Singapore can be continued and hopefully it can be realized, because the Batam - Singapore bridge can be a gateway for connectivity between Indonesia and other ASEAN countries and is a very economical high speed train route access after the islands of Java and Sumatra are connected.
Connecting Batam & Singapore with a railbridge? That will cost you $10B USD sir.
Only if Singapore pays for the cost
Itu tidak mungkin
gada jembatan aja banyak imigran gelap nyebrang apalagi pake jembatan 😂 kasian singapuranya sih kalo aku 😅 tunggu indonesia mindsetnya a bit better lah baru mungkin oke dicoba
China should be careful. Indonesian government after next election may not want to extend this railway with China any more. The project can change as a different leader is elected, looking what happened in Malaysia.
Usually in Indonesia before presidential election all candidate should be have agreement to continue legalize Indonesia strategic project. And than who will be for the next president will be continue all strategic projects
India only need slow train not high speed train because the passenger like to sit on top of the train.
It's more comfortable.
Thank You China for your support 🙏🎀🌈💫
Wishing Indonesia High Luck for Indonesia's Economic Growth
I anticipate that the discussion may span over a period of 2-3 years, as Indonesia will likely observe the performance and impact of the Jakarta-Bandung High-Speed Rail (HSR) project. Only time will reveal the outcomes, and I am confident that Indonesia will collaborate with China for the eventual extension of the HSR to Surabaya.
Is Japan still banging their head against the wall?
Maybe, maybe not. But what I’d like to see is Indonesians taking the Chinese tech they’ve got with high speed rail and find new ways to innovate like China did with Japan’s high speed rail tech. With that they can control the construction, design, etc. of future high speed rail lines and tracks in Indonesia and the future of high speed rail in general within their own country vs being beholden to the Chinese.
Now Vietnam wants to give up on Japan's hugely over-budget and 20 years (till 2035) on-going plan of building highspeed rail, and instead would like China's but China very hesitates doing highspeed rail for Vietnam because of many bad experience with Vietnam in the past.
They to busy pouring radioactive to the open ocean.
@@jst4572you dont know ppl here. Lazy. Will take next generation
That's a tall order. But possible with China's help.
Canada still doesn’t have something like this absolutely horrific
Congratulations Indonesia from Thailand
China transfer HSR tech to Indonesia. We're learning now. ❤ INKA, our SOE Railway is developing HSR of 350 km/h.
We already export our std-rail train of 150 km/h to others such as Bangladesh, Philipines, Africa countries, etc.
15% funded by Indonesia's money, 10% by China enterprise company and the rest 75% by debt (China).
The most shocking news is even though China only give 10% money to this project, they own 40% of the KCIC (Indonesia Fast Train) stocks permanently. And it's gonna takes +100 years for Indonesia to finish paying the debt.
dont worry ..its not your business 😁
@@andipejalan3382we're glad it's not our business. we're just laughing at you. debt trap.
@@JayAnuar oh ya debt trap? If Indian hate China why you joint BRICS?Joint BRICS it means India in the future will make bigger cooperation with China, at that time you will eat your words !!!😂
@@JayAnuarshut up you fvcking idiot,from poor and backward country,take care your poor contry first
Great job!
17000 islands, need alot of bridges to connect the islands
Not all of the islands are inhabited genious.
China: If you are willing to invest, these things will be very easy!
🇨🇳🇮🇩❤
A Symbolic of Economy progress
🇮🇩 Indonesia 🇮🇩
* MotoGP Sentul 1996-1997
* MotoGP Mandalika
* WSBK Mandalika
* Speed boat F1 Toba
* Fiba bola basket
* Kopasus pasukan elit no 1 dunia
* Candi Borobudur 7 keajaiban
dunia
* kcjb Kereta cepat pertama di Asean 350 speed
* PT Pindad senjata juara 1 lomba tembak dunia berturut turut
* PT Di satu satunya yang bisa buat pesawat di Asean
* Jaringan 4g Lte orang Indonesia yang menemukanya
* Indonesia menjadi negara terindah didunia no 1
* Indonesia negara Islam terbesar no 1 dunia
* Jaringan 4g Lte orang Indonesia yang menemukan
* Badminton Indonesia sangat hebat era Taufik Hidayat
* Bali wisata paling populer no 1 dunia
anak anj..sdm terbelakang yg sangatlah norak
Aku tercengang
😂😅 komen apa an sih. Biasa aja kali
Biasa aja bg tolong jgn overproud
Waaaw... sangat tercengang dan tercerahkan 😲😲😲🥹
Do it also in Sumatra, please, from Aceh to Lampung
I wish Malaysia has a high speed train to connect from North/Thailand border to South/Singapore border. Then a east/west connect from East Coast to West Coast. Then I don't have to fly or take a car/bus from city to city. The problem with road is that you get traffic jams.
According to the Chinese plan, the Pan-Asia railway network will stretch from Kunming and Nanning in China all the way southward to connect Viet Nam, Laos, Cambodia, Burmese, Malaysia and Singapore.
中国将来要将整个东南亚用高铁网络连接起来。越南-老挝-泰国-印尼-马来西亚-新加坡。中国的政治影响力将辐射整个东南亚
but malaysia canceled the project bacause of USA. LOL
Malaysia doesn't need HSR yet, it's better to focus on dealing with the invasion of foreigners
Even if it runs at a loss, it's the future of transportation amid concerns over fossil fuels and severe problems faced due to climate change.
Well done 👍
Congrat to Indonesia government and people. Greeting from China ❤
If we look back at the Indonesian government’s decision a few years ago, and then look at Japan’s current predicament in building high-speed rail for India and Vietnam, the Indonesian people will definitely feel extremely lucky. Because the Indonesian government chose China's high-speed rail.
💯 true
Then why not continue partnership with China? Successful results should be rewarded with continued partnerships.
nothing is perfect, but indonesia is advancing... no need to be pessimistic as described above
rata2 yang comment akun bodong, buzzer anti china. keliatan mereka ada sengaja buat framing buruk china dan nakut2in indonesia. lol
中国刚刚开始建设高铁的时候，很多中国人也抱怨，说不安全，浪费钱。但是今天中国更多人抱怨的是高铁速度太慢了，不应该因为当年的事故降低高速铁路速度标准。
Hope better planing for next phase. Jakarta metro area more than 30m population with this railway will help people connectivity. i will try this HSR next month and maybe sold my car. i can't with the traffic.
Congrats to China and Indonesia.
My administration is focused on space missions to the moon and wants to request the transfer of toilet technology to the US. 😢
Your avatar is very interesting, is your girlfriend next to you?
@@dragon123fantasy.she is my wife chinese, i married 2021 she is 19 years old and i am 48 years old.😊
Congratulations on marrying such a young girl, where are you from？ you must be rich right?@@bimanyuandiei
@@dragon123fantasy.I'm Indian now working in Australia and I'm not a rich man I married my wife because they love each other.😊
I wish it's not focusing on Java island only, other island doesn't even have train
Yes, brother 🙏
Sumatera and Sulawesi have
Lagi dibangun bro.
Sulawesi dh ada tapi cuma di kabupaten Maros, sumatera ada tapi putus putus, untung untung ada LRT di Palembang, Kalimantan gak ada jalur kereta api selama 100 tahun
SEA needs to have high speed railway too and interconnect one and another!
kerjasama yg baik Untuk Kemajuan bangsa
China, India and Indonesia are the real king pin in their regional power. I think they should join together as a big player squad and MAKE ASIA GREAT AGAIN..
india? its world largest sl arm,
The New Big 3
Congratulations Indonesia 👏 will bring lot of benefits n save way more time since their country are big, going places by car would take hella lot of time. Congratulations again from mysia
A new standard to our world
Unfortunately Malaysia cancelled HSR to be connected from Kuala Lumpur to Singapore, why?
China is building railway system everywhere. Why no one ask India to build?
india is busy with its CGI moon landing
Wsfc Mumbai Ahmedabad bullet train project
Cz last time they still had massive train accident haha
Meanwhile China claiming Indonesian territory
they don't want people to be riding on the roof top of the train :c
Is the US gonna tear down the train to see got any western tech inside the train wheels or not?
Nice
Absolutly agree if this HSR extend to Surabaya.
ASEAN region needs more Investments in Hispeed Rail Networks.
Fast trains would not be necessary if the plane flight network were cheaper
🇮🇩 ❤ 🇨🇳 ☺🥳🎉🎉🎉
Meanwhile Chinese claiming Indonesian territory
@@hemantv1676when?
Wonderful!
Great job👍
Yes... keep extending it. Train is the most efficient transport system per cargo/individual
Top Indonesian cities by GDP
1. Jakarta $304 Billion
2. Surabaya $89 Billion
3. Bandung $38 Billion
4. Samarinda-Balikpapan metro $30 Billion
5. Medan $28 Billion
6. Semarang $26 Billion
7. Makassar $17 Billion
8. Palembang $16 Billion
9. Denpasar $10 Billion
10. Padang $6 Billion
1. MALUKU
Wait, where's Bekasi, Tangerang and Bogor there are a bunch of huge industries and infrastructures in these cities
overrated cities. bogor rank 26th@@budisoemantri2303
@@gemigemi983rempah2 sudah ga berharga lagi
Indonesia is now on the high speed train.
Indonesian artist should customized the paintings on each train, make them more lively and pretty.
how many hsr has Japan built in recent years comparing with 44000 km China has built? Japan has lost the capabilities. their skilled workers and engineers have retired. they mostly just maintain the hsr in Japan .
also they don't want to share their technology to others that will make them easy lost to any bids for country who hungry about for the technology of HSR except India because they have sentiments to china
@@sangperebah5649It will take India 10 years to complete 500 km HSR. How long will it take to build 42,000 km as China have today. Because of elections, the Indian government can't afford to become unpopular due to land acquisition. The biggest enemy of India is the democracy they inherited from Britain - not China.
Japan will initially export 10 trains to India. India will then use this technology to manufacture trains.
Japan conducts durability tests on various types of trolleys using durability testing equipment at speeds of 500km/h. After completing the durability test, we will build a 400km/h vehicle and test drive it.
There are only a limited number of areas in Japan where it is possible to drive at 400 km/h, so it may be exported. The train's inclination when turning a curve may also be around 6 degrees.
Japan achieves the world's best quietness. China's HSR cannot meet European regulations due to noise.
@@user-rg8yx5nl4d will will will
We are hearing this from 2021 that it's ready to launch... But still trail run not completed?
Hasn't it launched last year?
We have been hearing how India will over take China since the start of 1990's.
@@calvinblue894it will officially launch in 1 october 2023 said the local news
Because do to COVID
that's better than the cooperation between India and Japan, how many km have they built? 50km?
Mantap
They got plans with connection to some countries what connect to.
恭喜印尼 gz Indonesia！
Congratulations Indonesia on your achievement， and wise country leader.
Wonderful
The chinese have got the tech but also the experience do make a huge difference too so costs comes down and the time to complete the project on time, so if you let the british do it for you the costs will go over budget and the project might never finish like uk's hs2.
The Japanese have lost the skills
Isn't it better to improve railway infrastructure in other island? Especially at sumatra where quality of normal roads still worse than java island. Reducing effectiveness of logistic between region. "Indonesia tidak hanya di jawa"
But... most of the business is in java island. Hence you see lot of office building here. Its only make sense if they build HSR in java. But hey, at least we took a baby step. One at a time.
Indonesian govt is at the point of no return. the existing Jakarta-Bandung line is way too short (150 km approx.) with plenty of mode of transportation available, combined with a rather expensive ticket of the said HSR, and the fact that the HSR's terminus stations are located far from the city center of jakarta and bandung all add to the malady of the HSR project to attract more passengers.
Should the line is not continued to Surabaya (500km east of the capital), it will bleed PT KAI's (State-Owned Enterprise of Indonesian railways company, the lead of the consortium and the only provider of railway services in Indonesia) finance flow. Continuing the line to Surabaya will require China's assistance again, but this time Indonesia's bargaining position is low and China may offer higher interest rate. Thus, Indonesia gradually falls into debt trap.
I think once the Trans Sumatra Toll Road is completed the expansion of the railway will began
PRIORITY = TRANS SUMATRA TOLL ROAD FINISHED 100%!! BE PATIENT!!
Sabar kak kebutuhan masyarakatnya lebih banyak di jakarta. Ngga mungkin kan proyek kreta cepat pertama di buat rute Padang-Palembang duluan. Ini arahnya udah mulai keluar pulau jawa pembangunan. Ibu kota aja mau d pindah.