I just got off the phone with Richard, from mywheeladapters.com. I have to say he is the most knowledgeable and helpful person for this kind of business. I have been researching and shopping for adapters and would never find the correct and safest adapters anywhere else but here. They make them here in the U.S. and the pricing is so fair I cannot believe it. My adapters are ordered and will be here soon and I may post more on the outcome when I receive them, but so far I am totally happy with my choice of makers here. Thank you Richard, this youtube video got you my business and being able to talk to you personally is what good business is all about.
Hi, I just wanted to thank you for possibly saving my life. I installed wheel adapters on my car yesterday, and I didn't feel right about them. After watching your video, I checked the installation, and the original studs were holding the wheel out like you said. All corrected now! My sincere thanks!
THAT IS GREAT INFORMATION! I AM MODDING MY 1994 NISSAN B13, I GOT F1R WHEELS FROM EBAY AND WANTED TO SEE IF WELDING THE SPACERS TO THE RIMS WOULD BE SAFER THAN JUST PLACING THE SPACERS ON THE CAR. WHY I SAID THIS IS NOT JUST FOR MYSELF BUT FOR MOSTLY ANYBODY LOOKING TO BUY WHEELS FOR THEIR WIPS. NOW I REALIZE WELDING ISN'T GOING TO WORK BECAUSE OF HAVING 2PCS OF Spacer/ADAPTER PARTS TO THE RIM TO FIT MENT. THANKS FOR THIS VIDEO!
I have seen many mistakes that are going down the road. Like Hockey pucks used to lift up cabs and boxes on frames, Front suspension lifted so far up that the caster and camber are so far out the tire is almost never parallel to the ground. Enjoy your vehicle but people must really pay attention. Great presentation here. If it saves one person from a major disaster it was well worth it.
You know what, I’m not even looking into buying wheel adapters or spacers, but this video informed me that if even the slightest of mistakes is made, it can go a long way.. or should I say, it couldn’t... anyways, thanks for the info, really appreciate it.
was looking for a spare 7 lug rim. search is less than satisfying. didn't know about the 7's till after I bought the truck. a set of adapters and rims would be cheaper and easier. your vid and some responses were unbelievably helpful. I owe you. thanks.
the studs on that truck should be 1/2 inch, and the studs on the Hummer are 14 x 1.5. So I would suggest getting a set of and spacers with the 14 x 1.5 studs in them so you could use the lug nuts from the Hummer or the lug nuts that come with the adapters to hold the wheels. You will also need an extra set of half-inch lug nuts told the adapter to the truck because the factory lug nuts will be too large to fit down in the holes of the adapter. Richard
Great video, everything I needed to know, I mocked the wheel completely up minus the licktite, then take off, remove back of adapter to see if my lugs were scoring the backside of the adapter.
The wheel spacers I put on my Nissan frontier Nismo were exactly what I wanted, were hub centric and my existing lugs did not come out anywhere near hitting. Passes inspection fine here in NY.
Yessir' BillyBob... You'll be driving along, all nice and happy; then all of a sudden, there goes yer' wheel down through the woods! As Forest Gump's mother stated: "Stupid is, as stupid does."
I can see were the customer made the mistake simple but I can see lots of customers making the same mistake, it would help out. it would of ended different even if it's common sense, but have the instructions state they need to be flush. but it is a easy overlooked step..
Many Wheels (Rims) are made of an aluminum alloy. Steel bolts on aluminum tend to corrode together. But the issue here is incorrect installation of the adapter. the hub surface must be free of any dirt or rust for the adapter to sit against. the vehicles studs can not protrude past the mating surface of the adapter nor can the wheel nuts on these studs for instance chrome lug nuts. The 2 inner surfaces of the adapter must be in complete contact with each other or else failure WILL take place. Cutting down the studs can work but can also cause loss of temper in the studs. If the studs are too long then replace the vehicle studs with shorter studs and use standard wheel nuts. No cutting or heating of the studs and/or nuts should take place. The adapters are fine and work well if installed properly. The person who had this issue with his is likely a self proclaimed mechanic or one of his friends are.
O ok i wasnt sure if youre product specifically said some modification may be required. it must be a universal spacer kit. but ya thats on the customer if he/she knew that u myt have to modify them to fit and just slaped them on then its their fault i agree.
Doesn't the car make horrible noises before the wheel actually falls off? He should have been experiencing some major vibrations before it got to the point of the adapter coming apart. When my lug nuts loosen, my wheel makes unusual noises.
I bought a one piece adapter for my truck (not from these guys), and they sent me the wrong lug nuts, but I did not realize that. I was happy, got some 35's on my truck, going 50 mph down the road, no noise, then BOOM! tire comes off.
tt jimmy I wish I had that much time. I was going about 45, all I heard / felt was a huge thump like someone took a hammer to my wheel, then that times 100 and the wheel went this way, my fender flare went that way and I was stuck on the side of the road.
Good vid. This is an example of not paying any attention to"fit" and were simply slapped together, wham, bam, thank ya mam...or they were just a bit on the challenged side.
Why should they have to modify it? If they buy it for their vehicle, it should fit their vehicle, if it does not, that would be a problem that occurred during manufacturing.
dethreveng this is an aftermarket item that fits different vehicles and the possibility of needing to cut down your studs is explained in the sales information and the flyer that is included with the adapters, if you're not willing to do what's required to make them fit properly then buy wheels to fit your vehicle.
Thanks for posting.. I have an opportunity to get some nice rims for cheap and I know I'm going to have to use these adapters. Question though is it harmful to switch from 6 lugs to 5 lugs? Would the weght of my truck put stress on the 5 studs? And how would it impact long road trips? Would there be much different. I just figured there a reason they put 6 lugs on pick up trucks and not cars. Your input would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
This mistake is common because it's a poor design. Not allowing longer studs to recede into the adapter its a recipe for disaster. You can't leave it up to the customer to perform needless modifications and possibly void his warranty by grinding, cutting, etc. It's the manufacturer's fault. The best thing to do is not use these things, specially with aluminum threads. There is a reason everything there is cast iron. Good engineering takes into account all these factors to improve reliability and foremost, safety.
+Les Zapata 1.How would you account for ALL different and longer studs? You are going to either make them much taller or drill out resesses into the opposing side weakening the structural integrity of the adapter? 2.Also cast iron isn't used in hubs, steel is which is much different. Also implying the use of cast iron as a adapter is stupid since it isn't easy to machine or work with. They are cast molded. 3. By using any kind of wheels that aren't stock, you void the warranty of most manufactures. 4. The aluminum threads you are referring too are there to hold the wheel together with no gaps. Try running a wheel with this kind of surface mating issue and see if your wheel will last on there. Bottom line: Customer bought a part and didn't install it properly. They come with clear instructions. Your grasp of engineering and reasoning is weak.
+alansupra94 You're missing the point. If anyone is going to manufacture anything, they are responsible for its fitment. Otherwise, don't sell it to the general public. 1. That's what good responsible engineering is. If one can't design a part to fit every scenario, then develop multiple classes. Engineering means nothing without common sense. 2. Pay attention. I never said to machine cast iron. 3. True, the warranty is voided as soon as the owner starts messing with their car, so don't if you want to keep it. 4. Introducing multiple aluminum parts between the rotor and wheel, fastened by smaller intermediate bolts isn't exactly wise. Considering the potential forces involved, it's like playing Russian roulette with their lives. It's a safety issue. 5. Lots of machinists with fantastic ideas but without a metallurgical degree end up manufacturing aftermarket parts without proper stress testing. 6. Too many uninformed people buy into their marketing hype and slap garbage on their vehicle, unknowingly reducing safety. Single, hub-centric spacers fastened with longer hardened studs is they way to go. Multi-part spacers with intermediate fasteners are and have been a terrible idea. So, don't try and make me the idiot when clearly you don't understand.
+Les Zapata sometimes people want to do things to their car that was not intended to be done from the factory, so when they buy a product that says it may require alteration for installation the customer is responsible to take whatever action is needed for proper use of the item they bought. If you can't follow directions or get someone competent to do it for you don't use wheel adapters.
+WheelAdapterSpacers The general public is best regarded as stupid, but that can't be used in court. I'm not a big fan of the 2 piece design for obvious reasons. Lateral forces can strip the intermediate aluminum threads and send the wheel flying into another car, potentially killing more than the idiot who installed them. Single hubcentric designs have been successful in all kinds of racing applications where lateral stress is constantly applied. So, multi part hubs should not be used or only sold to shops that can verify proper installation. It would still be a poorly designed spacer as it's always been for many decades. I really don't mean to piss on anyone's shoes, but lives can be lost by introducing this part to idiots in order to make a buck. Auto manufacturers go through great expense to make vehicles safe, and this counters those efforts.
+Les Zapata Lol no. You clearly don't understand for a variety of very obvious reasons. 1. "Good engineering principles" as you are trying to describe poorly takes into account a host of different variables and scenarios. Taking into account improper installation is NOT one of them. If that were the case then you wouldn't be able to engineer anything as there is always going to be several improper ways to install something that will cause catastrophic failure. That is like getting upset that someone bought the wrong lug nut threads, cross threaded them and their wheels fell off and you saying they should have universal lug nuts with every type of thread. 2. You said "everything there is cast iron" implying that the wheel spacer should be as well. 3. Exactly. Thank you for proving my point. 4. Those aren't small intermediate bolts. That isn't what failed. The bolt held up perfectly fine, it stripped from the tapped aluminum threads. Those aren't "potential forces either". I don't think you are really aware of exactly what happened but have general physics knowledge and are throwing it out there. Exactly what happened is they were installed improperly with the studs against the billet adapter. The adapter held fine for a while because it had a surface to sit on and there were no torque applied in any direction because of this. As the studs ate into the adapter, a gap was created allowing for play and torques to be applied. Here is when bolts stripped due to IMPROPER installation and usage. 5. What would a metallurgical degree so here? Even if he built these out of cast iron (as you implied) the threads would still strip as ANY bolt (even higher than 8.8 grade) would strip the threads eventually. Also clearly you don't have any knowledge of metallurgical properties or the first thing you would mention is galvanic corrosion (which I left open on purpose for you to comment on if you had any engineering knowledge). 6. There is no marketing hype here. Your argument is invalid. No one here is arguing the differences regarding single, hub-centric spacers. That is irrelevant as well. Bottomline: You have zero engineering knowledge and are throwing out jardon you learned on google. Your argument is flawed and invalid and the reasoning is piss poor. By your reasoning, No one should buy any part for their car because anyone can install it wrong and kill themselves.
+Mallory Moore A good tire shop would have discouraged him from using them. I am not sure if a vehicle would pass inspection with them here in Pennsylvania.
Mallory Moore Yeah, they can't do that sort of thing. Honestly, idk why people always say to take it to a shop... They won't touch it. Just like a person with a heart about to fail looking for dental surgery. Nobody will touch that job.
You could talk to a custom/hot-rodder shop and they might be willing to charge thousands to redesign your whole car's suspension Unless there is an approved kit, which you should know about if you want it done.
On my truck I went to the auto parts and asked them ummm at the moment idk the size but they only sold them log and I cut them in half bc I didn't have the time to wait and they still on now and they all perfect except the from drivers side I also get a click but it's when I hit the brake I think my rotor is messed up idk but as long as the adapters are together with no gap you should be good man do you have the same truck I have?
Oh yeah and when I hit the brakes that's when it makes the clicking noise and I did bleed them out but for some reason they seem like the have air in them idk wtf is going on but that's the only click I get
hi there... I was wondering if you could build an adapter for me from 6 studs to fit on 5x155 hug!!! Meaning; The car has 5x155 alloy wheels but I do need to fit a 6 holes alloy on that 5x155..is that possible...? What info should I send over to you in order to get all right???regards
"for your piece of mind"? All spacers pictured here are junk. You can say what you want about the installers of such shoddy parts, but spacers that don't accept and transfer the appropriate hub nosing for the application are an engineering failure. All spacers shown in this video are a failure of engineering. Basically this video claims that it's a problem that the customers are not better engineers than the manufacturer hired to design the pictured product. Apply that logic to any business that supplies a product to the consumer, and it's nonsense. The lesson of this video is: 'the customer should not buy my product unless they are more qualified to design it than I am'.
+Ethan Smith So the issue is that the pictured adapters don't have a hub nosing to locate the wheel in the center of the hub. Without that hub nose, the lug nuts are given that responsibility that they are not designed for. The same thing happens if aftermarket wheels are installed on a car without the correct centering rings being used. The wheel may not end up exactly in the center of the hub, and the lugs end up having to support shear loading that they weren't designed for. They're designed for tensile loads only. The hub nosing is what's designed to take that shear loading. If you google image search 'trak+', you will see that all spacers have a indentation in the center for the hub nosing to fit into, and then have duplicate of that (model-specific) nosing on them for the wheel to fit over. That is what you are looking for, aside from the grade of aluminum alloy being respectable enough that the manufacturer advertises what it is.
Anyone know where to get the lugnuts for these? I bought adapters and they didn't come with the lugnuts. I cant find any everywhere i look. They've gotta be 12x1.25
well at least i dont feel so bad i have an 06 f150 and i just bought 1.5'' inch spacers and i went to installed them i noticed i had about 1/4 at least of the lugs stick out thru the spacer and my wheel did not touch the spacer , also my lug nuts only gripped about 3 turns, i didnt think that was normal, so i took them off since im new at this and would check utube for this issue, and here i am... so its ok to grind down that 1/4 inch of xtra lug ? theres no threads on it anyways? let me kno pls...
MrLava Lui I'm very sorry for the delayed response I just don't look at this channel very much, you probably have already taking care of your situation but this is a very important point, yes you must cut off or ground down your studs so they do not touch the wheel, if you don't it will cause failure. Another thing with Ford trucks is there strange lug nuts, you will need small aftermarket lug nuts to attach the adapter to the vehicle and then the proper lug nuts for the wheels to attach the wheel to the adapter.
Hey I'm trying to go from a 5 lug to 6 lugs someone told me that I ha to get the right measurement and the measurements are 5x135 to 6x5.5 well that's what I was told my truck is a 2001 Ford F-150 king ranch and the rims I'm trying to put in came off a Tahoe like a 04-05 I don't know really but it was from a 6 lug truck
+Carlos Soriano Hey man im doing the same thing. I found a pair of 5x135 and 5x5 to 6x5.5 wheel adapters. Truck has a 5x135 bolt pattern, and it was pretty simple from there. You might spend $200+, but it's worth it.
+Fred Horton hey it is man I got some 6s on my 2001 king ranch it looks really nice Ima post a video of it later on if you want to watch it and the 2 piece spacers and adapters gave my truck and really nice look but they worth it and so far they're safe as long as you tighten them how they suppose to be tight not too lose
Thanks. Is your truck lifted or leveled by any chance. I want to do 5x135 to 6x5.5 spacers that 2" wide. With just cranking the torsion bars, you think they'll rub?
+Fred Horton it's leveled and these 6s I put well the front ones rub but I think it's just bc I put 26s idk what you're going to put but mine Just rubs cause my truck being the King ranch has like the plastic stuff on the wheels but it depends a lot on the car you putting them on
Erik Turner improperly installed adapters are definitely unsafe, but I sell 50 to 70 sets of adapters per week and have been doing so for five years, before that I was in tire and wheel service business for over 20 years. Every failure I have witnessed in that time has been a result of improper installation, if you put them on right, they stay on.
man...... some people shouldn't touch a wrench.... idiot probably was so excited to go show off his pos with wheels he rushed it..how could you not notice that gap when your there turning the bolts??
jeremy crooms a set of four delivered in the US, two piece adapters, 2 inches thick are $229 you can find them at mywheeladapters.com or give me a call
"You be cruising on down the road in your 24's or 26's .... And bam!! "😂😂😂😜
I just got off the phone with Richard, from mywheeladapters.com. I have to say he is the most knowledgeable and helpful person for this kind of business. I have been researching and shopping for adapters and would never find the correct and safest adapters anywhere else but here. They make them here in the U.S. and the pricing is so fair I cannot believe it. My adapters are ordered and will be here soon and I may post more on the outcome when I receive them, but so far I am totally happy with my choice of makers here. Thank you Richard, this youtube video got you my business and being able to talk to you personally is what good business is all about.
thank you
Hi, I just wanted to thank you for possibly saving my life. I installed wheel adapters on my car yesterday, and I didn't feel right about them. After watching your video, I checked the installation, and the original studs were holding the wheel out like you said. All corrected now! My sincere thanks!
your welcome
THAT IS GREAT INFORMATION! I AM MODDING MY 1994 NISSAN B13, I GOT F1R WHEELS FROM EBAY AND WANTED TO SEE IF WELDING THE SPACERS TO THE RIMS WOULD BE SAFER THAN JUST PLACING THE SPACERS ON THE CAR. WHY I SAID THIS IS NOT JUST FOR MYSELF BUT FOR MOSTLY ANYBODY LOOKING TO BUY WHEELS FOR THEIR WIPS. NOW I REALIZE WELDING ISN'T GOING TO WORK BECAUSE OF HAVING 2PCS OF Spacer/ADAPTER PARTS TO THE RIM TO FIT MENT. THANKS FOR THIS VIDEO!
I have seen many mistakes that are going down the road. Like Hockey pucks used to lift up cabs and boxes on frames, Front suspension lifted so far up that the caster and camber are so far out the tire is almost never parallel to the ground. Enjoy your vehicle but people must really pay attention. Great presentation here. If it saves one person from a major disaster it was well worth it.
5 minutes in...FINALLY he gets to the point!!!
ahahahahha..... shit he takes his time to get to the point......... get on with it grandpa... gossssshhhh..!
the exact reason we have to put "caution, HOT coffee" on hot coffee cups.
You know what, I’m not even looking into buying wheel adapters or spacers, but this video informed me that if even the slightest of mistakes is made, it can go a long way.. or should I say, it couldn’t... anyways, thanks for the info, really appreciate it.
Defiantly the smartest thing I've seen on TH-cam in a long time! Thank you sir
was looking for a spare 7 lug rim. search is less than satisfying. didn't know about the 7's till after I bought the truck. a set of adapters and rims would be cheaper and easier. your vid and some responses were unbelievably helpful. I owe you. thanks.
It comes with lugs to fit the adapters as pictured, they can be used on the vehicle if the vehicle requires the same size lugs.
the studs on that truck should be 1/2 inch, and the studs on the Hummer are 14 x 1.5. So I would suggest getting a set of and spacers with the 14 x 1.5 studs in them so you could use the lug nuts from the Hummer or the lug nuts that come with the adapters to hold the wheels. You will also need an extra set of half-inch lug nuts told the adapter to the truck because the factory lug nuts will be too large to fit down in the holes of the adapter. Richard
Great video, everything I needed to know, I mocked the wheel completely up minus the licktite, then take off, remove back of adapter to see if my lugs were scoring the backside of the adapter.
Kommon Manz I recommend using a straight edge to make sure nothing goes past the first piece of the adapter
The product description says modification may be necessary, and many applications do not allow for the extra thickness to accommodate the stud length.
The wheel spacers I put on my Nissan frontier Nismo were exactly what I wanted, were hub centric and my existing lugs did not come out anywhere near hitting. Passes inspection fine here in NY.
...and BAAAM!!!
Kamion King your wheel is taking off down through the woods lol.. hilarious!!
Yessir' BillyBob... You'll be driving along, all nice and happy; then all of a sudden, there goes yer' wheel down through the woods!
As Forest Gump's mother stated: "Stupid is, as stupid does."
Thank you for sharing. I can honestly say, I did not think of this. I just bought some and have yet to put them on.
I can see were the customer made the mistake simple but I can see lots of customers making the same mistake, it would help out. it would of ended different even if it's common sense, but have the instructions state they need to be flush. but it is a easy overlooked step..
No offence to the guy but I wouldn't trust steel bolts threaded into some aluminum.
I'm sure that the adapters are well engineered but I wonder if they used "helicoil" inserts for those socket head bolts?
Many Wheels (Rims) are made of an aluminum alloy. Steel bolts on aluminum tend to corrode together. But the issue here is incorrect installation of the adapter. the hub surface must be free of any dirt or rust for the adapter to sit against. the vehicles studs can not protrude past the mating surface of the adapter nor can the wheel nuts on these studs for instance chrome lug nuts. The 2 inner surfaces of the adapter must be in complete contact with each other or else failure WILL take place. Cutting down the studs can work but can also cause loss of temper in the studs. If the studs are too long then replace the vehicle studs with shorter studs and use standard wheel nuts. No cutting or heating of the studs and/or nuts should take place. The adapters are fine and work well if installed properly. The person who had this issue with his is likely a self proclaimed mechanic or one of his friends are.
on your new 24's or 26's, or whatever you got! the BAMB! love this vid, great job
Brilliant video, very well explained
Gets to the point at 5:44
6 lugs and the second piece is held on by Allen heads ?? that's alot of pieces and bolts to check from time to time .
O ok i wasnt sure if youre product specifically said some modification may be required. it must be a universal spacer kit. but ya thats on the customer if he/she knew that u myt have to modify them to fit and just slaped them on then its their fault i agree.
Common sense is not so common anymore.
+Adam Moore
so true
+Adam Moore
You mean there isn't an app for that??? LOL
Doesn't the car make horrible noises before the wheel actually falls off? He should have been experiencing some major vibrations before it got to the point of the adapter coming apart. When my lug nuts loosen, my wheel makes unusual noises.
I bought a one piece adapter for my truck (not from these guys), and they sent me the wrong lug nuts, but I did not realize that. I was happy, got some 35's on my truck, going 50 mph down the road, no noise, then BOOM! tire comes off.
Your lug nuts should never loosen on their own.
Ron Staples
Really? I thought they were supposed to fall off all the time.
Wheel came loos in the high way you feel banging and vibration just hit your brake if it stops get the fuck off the road
tt jimmy I wish I had that much time. I was going about 45, all I heard / felt was a huge thump like someone took a hammer to my wheel, then that times 100 and the wheel went this way, my fender flare went that way and I was stuck on the side of the road.
GREAT TIP !!!! thanks
Good vid. This is an example of not paying any attention to"fit" and were simply slapped together, wham, bam, thank ya mam...or they were just a bit on the challenged side.
Are they all so thick ? doesn't that make the wheel stick out to much ? Or can u get thin ones ?
one piece adapters are available down to 19mm thick.
Why should they have to modify it? If they buy it for their vehicle, it should fit their vehicle, if it does not, that would be a problem that occurred during manufacturing.
dethreveng this is an aftermarket item that fits different vehicles and the possibility of needing to cut down your studs is explained in the sales information and the flyer that is included with the adapters, if you're not willing to do what's required to make them fit properly then buy wheels to fit your vehicle.
im gona buy rim for a 6 lug gmc pick truck.But i got a 1985 chevy caprice thats 5 lugs. how much will some thing like that cost me?
Thanks for posting.. I have an opportunity to get some nice rims for cheap and I know I'm going to have to use these adapters. Question though is it harmful to switch from 6 lugs to 5 lugs? Would the weght of my truck put stress on the 5 studs? And how would it impact long road trips? Would there be much different. I just figured there a reason they put 6 lugs on pick up trucks and not cars. Your input would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Oh by the way I drive an 2003 Escalade Ext puck up... If that'll better help you answer my questions... Thanks again.
How thick are these adapters when they are put together?
Why not machine small pockets into the back of the second adapter....so that studs that are a bit to long, have somewhere to go??
Because the pockets would weaken the front plate and some of the pockets would have to be machined into the mushroom part of the wheel studs.
I feel you man. Idiots screw up with thier install and then blame you when thier car falls apart.
This mistake is common because it's a poor design. Not allowing longer studs to recede into the adapter its a recipe for disaster. You can't leave it up to the customer to perform needless modifications and possibly void his warranty by grinding, cutting, etc. It's the manufacturer's fault. The best thing to do is not use these things, specially with aluminum threads. There is a reason everything there is cast iron. Good engineering takes into account all these factors to improve reliability and foremost, safety.
+Les Zapata
1.How would you account for ALL different and longer studs? You are going to either make them much taller or drill out resesses into the opposing side weakening the structural integrity of the adapter?
2.Also cast iron isn't used in hubs, steel is which is much different. Also implying the use of cast iron as a adapter is stupid since it isn't easy to machine or work with. They are cast molded.
3. By using any kind of wheels that aren't stock, you void the warranty of most manufactures.
4. The aluminum threads you are referring too are there to hold the wheel together with no gaps. Try running a wheel with this kind of surface mating issue and see if your wheel will last on there.
Bottom line: Customer bought a part and didn't install it properly. They come with clear instructions. Your grasp of engineering and reasoning is weak.
+alansupra94 You're missing the point. If anyone is going to manufacture anything, they are responsible for its fitment. Otherwise, don't sell it to the general public.
1. That's what good responsible engineering is. If one can't design a part to fit every scenario, then develop multiple classes. Engineering means nothing without common sense.
2. Pay attention. I never said to machine cast iron.
3. True, the warranty is voided as soon as the owner starts messing with their car, so don't if you want to keep it.
4. Introducing multiple aluminum parts between the rotor and wheel, fastened by smaller intermediate bolts isn't exactly wise. Considering the potential forces involved, it's like playing Russian roulette with their lives. It's a safety issue.
5. Lots of machinists with fantastic ideas but without a metallurgical degree end up manufacturing aftermarket parts without proper stress testing.
6. Too many uninformed people buy into their marketing hype and slap garbage on their vehicle, unknowingly reducing safety.
Single, hub-centric spacers fastened with longer hardened studs is they way to go. Multi-part spacers with intermediate fasteners are and have been a terrible idea. So, don't try and make me the idiot when clearly you don't understand.
+Les Zapata
sometimes people want to do things to their car that was not intended to be done from the factory, so when they buy a product that says it may require alteration for installation the customer is responsible to take whatever action is needed for proper use of the item they bought. If you can't follow directions or get someone competent to do it for you don't use wheel adapters.
+WheelAdapterSpacers
The general public is best regarded as stupid, but that can't be used in court.
I'm not a big fan of the 2 piece design for obvious reasons. Lateral forces can strip the intermediate aluminum threads and send the wheel flying into another car, potentially killing more than the idiot who installed them.
Single hubcentric designs have been successful in all kinds of racing applications where lateral stress is constantly applied. So, multi part hubs should not be used or only sold to shops that can verify proper installation. It would still be a poorly designed spacer as it's always been for many decades.
I really don't mean to piss on anyone's shoes, but lives can be lost by introducing this part to idiots in order to make a buck. Auto manufacturers go through great expense to make vehicles safe, and this counters those efforts.
+Les Zapata
Lol no. You clearly don't understand for a variety of very obvious reasons.
1. "Good engineering principles" as you are trying to describe poorly takes into account a host of different variables and scenarios. Taking into account improper installation is NOT one of them. If that were the case then you wouldn't be able to engineer anything as there is always going to be several improper ways to install something that will cause catastrophic failure. That is like getting upset that someone bought the wrong lug nut threads, cross threaded them and their wheels fell off and you saying they should have universal lug nuts with every type of thread.
2. You said "everything there is cast iron" implying that the wheel spacer should be as well.
3. Exactly. Thank you for proving my point.
4. Those aren't small intermediate bolts. That isn't what failed. The bolt held up perfectly fine, it stripped from the tapped aluminum threads. Those aren't "potential forces either". I don't think you are really aware of exactly what happened but have general physics knowledge and are throwing it out there. Exactly what happened is they were installed improperly with the studs against the billet adapter. The adapter held fine for a while because it had a surface to sit on and there were no torque applied in any direction because of this. As the studs ate into the adapter, a gap was created allowing for play and torques to be applied. Here is when bolts stripped due to IMPROPER installation and usage.
5. What would a metallurgical degree so here? Even if he built these out of cast iron (as you implied) the threads would still strip as ANY bolt (even higher than 8.8 grade) would strip the threads eventually. Also clearly you don't have any knowledge of metallurgical properties or the first thing you would mention is galvanic corrosion (which I left open on purpose for you to comment on if you had any engineering knowledge).
6. There is no marketing hype here. Your argument is invalid.
No one here is arguing the differences regarding single, hub-centric spacers. That is irrelevant as well.
Bottomline: You have zero engineering knowledge and are throwing out jardon you learned on google. Your argument is flawed and invalid and the reasoning is piss poor. By your reasoning, No one should buy any part for their car because anyone can install it wrong and kill themselves.
Thank you for the information I was wondering why everything was shaking so bad
ALWAYS USE ACORN LUGS!!! It centers the adapters I have the same one my 4x4 the 5 lug to 6 lug
why didnt he get a wheel specialist put the spacers on?
+Mallory Moore A good tire shop would have discouraged him from using them. I am not sure if a vehicle would pass inspection with them here in Pennsylvania.
Mallory Moore Yeah, they can't do that sort of thing.
Honestly, idk why people always say to take it to a shop... They won't touch it.
Just like a person with a heart about to fail looking for dental surgery. Nobody will touch that job.
You could talk to a custom/hot-rodder shop and they might be willing to charge thousands to redesign your whole car's suspension
Unless there is an approved kit, which you should know about if you want it done.
Was it on a ford?
On my truck I went to the auto parts and asked them ummm at the moment idk the size but they only sold them log and I cut them in half bc I didn't have the time to wait and they still on now and they all perfect except the from drivers side I also get a click but it's when I hit the brake I think my rotor is messed up idk but as long as the adapters are together with no gap you should be good man do you have the same truck I have?
Oh yeah and when I hit the brakes that's when it makes the clicking noise and I did bleed them out but for some reason they seem like the have air in them idk wtf is going on but that's the only click I get
Kurloz Soriano t
Thanks for making the video appreciate it
Looking to go from 6 lug to 8 lug is that possible
hi there... I was wondering if you could build an adapter for me from 6 studs to fit on 5x155 hug!!! Meaning; The car has 5x155 alloy wheels but I do need to fit a 6 holes alloy on that 5x155..is that possible...? What info should I send over to you in order to get all right???regards
$239 for a set of four delivered in the US
Great advice thanks
the adapters aren't vehicle specific, they're universal... im gonna buy these:)
I've done this mistake luckily the wheel didn't come off I stopped it before it got bad
AND BAMM!!! YOUR WHEEL OS TAKIN OFF THREW THE WOODS_LMAO
Why not notch the adaptor to accept the studs, seems like a really poor design.
the back of the studs for the wheel are in the way.
is there an adapter that can go from a 15 inch rim to a 16 inch rim
Its called buy a different rim
do you make good hubcentric spacers
+nicholas turney Yes 423-704-0407
Ok sounds good. I'll deffinatly look into that. Thanks a lot
"for your piece of mind"? All spacers pictured here are junk. You can say what you want about the installers of such shoddy parts, but spacers that don't accept and transfer the appropriate hub nosing for the application are an engineering failure. All spacers shown in this video are a failure of engineering. Basically this video claims that it's a problem that the customers are not better engineers than the manufacturer hired to design the pictured product. Apply that logic to any business that supplies a product to the consumer, and it's nonsense. The lesson of this video is: 'the customer should not buy my product unless they are more qualified to design it than I am'.
What are the flaws, so that I know what to look for when buying adapters? and so that I may be a little less ignorant.
+Ethan Smith So the issue is that the pictured adapters don't have a hub nosing to locate the wheel in the center of the hub. Without that hub nose, the lug nuts are given that responsibility that they are not designed for. The same thing happens if aftermarket wheels are installed on a car without the correct centering rings being used. The wheel may not end up exactly in the center of the hub, and the lugs end up having to support shear loading that they weren't designed for. They're designed for tensile loads only. The hub nosing is what's designed to take that shear loading. If you google image search 'trak+', you will see that all spacers have a indentation in the center for the hub nosing to fit into, and then have duplicate of that (model-specific) nosing on them for the wheel to fit over. That is what you are looking for, aside from the grade of aluminum alloy being respectable enough that the manufacturer advertises what it is.
Anyone know where to get the lugnuts for these?
I bought adapters and they didn't come with the lugnuts.
I cant find any everywhere i look.
They've gotta be 12x1.25
+Havy Colon 423-704-0407 mywheeladapters.com
+Havy Colon ARP bolts man.they cost money but your done lookin'
pretty basic stuff. would have assumed that people would figure out to check that but good to mention.
what is the recommended torque for the black Allen bolts that hold the two pieces together
65lbs
In the video u said 80lbs
I still hear people still have issues wih spacers making wobble noises
Lroy Johnson if anything is wobbling or making noises something is not right, they need to stop and find out what their problem is.
Any Dodge Ram 1500 5lug to 6lug?
well at least i dont feel so bad i have an 06 f150 and i just bought 1.5'' inch spacers and i went to installed them i noticed i had about 1/4 at least of the lugs stick out thru the spacer and my wheel did not touch the spacer , also my lug nuts only gripped about 3 turns, i didnt think that was normal, so i took them off since im new at this and would check utube for this issue, and here i am... so its ok to grind down that 1/4 inch of xtra lug ? theres no threads on it anyways? let me kno pls...
MrLava Lui I'm very sorry for the delayed response I just don't look at this channel very much, you probably have already taking care of your situation but this is a very important point, yes you must cut off or ground down your studs so they do not touch the wheel, if you don't it will cause failure. Another thing with Ford trucks is there strange lug nuts, you will need small aftermarket lug nuts to attach the adapter to the vehicle and then the proper lug nuts for the wheels to attach the wheel to the adapter.
Thanks for that information.
The Truth I'm studying this🤣🤣🤣 His Hilarious with truth Bam!!!
For liability reasons you need to make the adaptors thick enough to clear the longest oem/ stock studs on the vehicles they are being designed for
Because of fender clearance that is not an option, they work perfect with proper installation which is the responsibility of the installer.
Bbaaayyem!
Hey I'm trying to go from a 5 lug to 6 lugs someone told me that I ha to get the right measurement and the measurements are 5x135 to 6x5.5 well that's what I was told my truck is a 2001 Ford F-150 king ranch and the rims I'm trying to put in came off a Tahoe like a 04-05 I don't know really but it was from a 6 lug truck
+Carlos Soriano Hey man im doing the same thing. I found a pair of 5x135 and 5x5 to 6x5.5 wheel adapters. Truck has a 5x135 bolt pattern, and it was pretty simple from there. You might spend $200+, but it's worth it.
+Fred Horton hey it is man I got some 6s on my 2001 king ranch it looks really nice Ima post a video of it later on if you want to watch it and the 2 piece spacers and adapters gave my truck and really nice look but they worth it and so far they're safe as long as you tighten them how they suppose to be tight not too lose
Thanks. Is your truck lifted or leveled by any chance. I want to do 5x135 to 6x5.5 spacers that 2" wide. With just cranking the torsion bars, you think they'll rub?
+Fred Horton it's leveled and these 6s I put well the front ones rub but I think it's just bc I put 26s idk what you're going to put but mine Just rubs cause my truck being the King ranch has like the plastic stuff on the wheels but it depends a lot on the car you putting them on
+Carlos Soriano I'm just gonna give it that stance look. Just some after market wheels and that's it.
can you tell me why my studs broke
+Martin Stansel
if you post or send me a picture of the front and back of the adapter and the back of the wheel I may be able to.
WheelAdapterSpacers do u have an email it won't let me post a pic on this
@@martinstansel did you ever find out why
the car is not happy
or you just don't put adapters on your car because its a bad idea in general and its not safe
Erik Turner Or just get quality made billet or forged 7075-T6 aluminum or steel spacers and install them right, then you won't have any problems...
Erik Turner improperly installed adapters are definitely unsafe, but I sell 50 to 70 sets of adapters per week and have been doing so for five years, before that I was in tire and wheel service business for over 20 years. Every failure I have witnessed in that time has been a result of improper installation, if you put them on right, they stay on.
I think that these bolts are not the good quality
orlando machado I guess were all entitled to our own opinion but what facts do you base yours on?
Nice video
Good advice.
how about some blue loctite
And baaaaaaam!
:)
thanks for the info
AND BAM!
man...... some people shouldn't touch a wrench.... idiot probably was so excited to go show off his pos with wheels he rushed it..how could you not notice that gap when your there turning the bolts??
How much would a set of them be for a 03 suburban
Steven Machurick not to defend mistakes made in installation, but any, even a very small gap will cause them to get loose and fail.
jeremy crooms a set of four delivered in the US, two piece adapters, 2 inches thick are $229 you can find them at mywheeladapters.com or give me a call
jesus he talks too much
Good to know
Thanks
YEAH HE DOES WAYY TOO MUCH FOREPLAY BEFORE THE ACTUAL VIDEO THOUGH LOL
Lol i like this old guy
LOL Bam!!!! The idiot should have actually knew how to install before even buying
Point made !thks
do it right the first time and everyone is happier :)
SOUNDS LIKE YOU SOLD AN ASSEMBLY THAT DOESN'T FIT TOGETHER..........................!
Perfect fit, wrong installation.
ALLUUUUUUUMINUUUUUUUM!
Can I get some 2 inch spacers for my 97 4Runner 4wd i have factory alloy wheels?
are you able to ship out wheels spacers? i have a 4 lug nissan stanza 1988, id have to measure the diameter
+Jedi Jamo The One
yes we ship almost everywhere