Great comparison video! I'll take the P220, here's why. Sigs P220 platform has a proven track record for many years on: Reliability, Durability and Accuracy. The 10mm P220s all Stainless Steel slide and frame give it the heft desired for control when shooting the real full power 10mm loads! The Super strong all metal recoil guide rod with braided recoil spring also help tame recoil. The P220 has a barrel with full chamber support and is reliable with all 10mm loadings. I have shot both the Sig P220 Legion and Scorpion models, out to 50 yards with excellent accuracy using S&B 180gr. fmj. Both P220s scoring 5 round groups of 2.25" and 3.85" Standing unsupported, slow fire. From 25 yards the 5 round groups were just over 1" (1.2"-1.3")!
Just ordered a 220 legion. Thought about the SAO, but I have a 10mm 1911 so I opted for the DA/SA. Excited to get it next week ish. Also, the updated 220s come optics ready so keep an eye out if you buy one. Some sites are selling the older version without the optics cut for the same price.
Did not know the new ones came optic ready. Have had that 220 10mm Legion on my wish list forever. Now a better reason to buy!! Thanks for the info AND for watching!!
@@TheArkansasGunGuy Yep, I'll also confirm the P220 Legion 10mm is milled for optics. I have a Holosun EPS I'm planning to install. Took it to the range yesterday for the first time. Put a couple hundred rounds through it. Zero problems. It shot very well, but I'm going to take it apart and polish the friction points, then swap out the springs for the Armory Craft spring kit; the DA pull needs to be lightened and smoothed out to make me happy.
Based on your other video on this P220 Scorpion it sounds like the chances of finding one is slim and it won’t be at any lower sales price since all but the Legion are discontinued. I’ve had a few P220 models over the years in 45acp that were flawless, but I’m an avid 10mm fanatic myself. My EDC is a G20. My wife saw one of these Scorpions in the store last night priced at 1599 and really loved it. So looks like I better run back in the morning and grab it before it’s gone.
Thanks for a really useful review. I'm not a great fan of striker fired pistols (service pistol just switched to HK VP9...) and had more or less settled on the DA/SA P220 but your review gave me food for thought. Do you really feel that the reset on the XTEN is crisper/shorter than on the 220?
I'll take the SIG Sauer P220 5" 10mm Auto pistol every time, with the frame-mounted decocker and the DA/SA SRT trigger. I just don't care for the SIG Sauer P320 and P365 pistols. Good things! 👍
Plus I heard issues with the XTen like it having issues running hard cast. And issues with the magazines with loading the 15 round, plus when you slam the mag in with slide lock back and hit the release there are feeding issues
Yes, both do. But the XTen doesn't seem to chamber the 220gr rounds from either of those makers reliably. It feeds the 200gr no problem, but doesn't like the big boolitz. I'm taking a 10mm to Alaska in August for moose season, so I'm going to bring a P220 Legion with the heavy 220gr loads. I'll probably sell my XTen.
@@dtcowlick You're welcome. That is literally the ONLY issue I have with the XTen. Otherwise it's a fantastic striker fired pistol. The initial magazine stiffness is something I see complained about but that goes away soon with usage. I left the mags loaded for a couple weeks and that helped a lot, but just putting a few hundred rounds through the gun fixed it for good. Initially I used a LULA loader to get that last round in. By the way, Blakgun is also me. 😊
How did the XTEN compare to the P220 recoil wise? I imagine it feels more snappy? I'll end up with a 10mm one day but it will have to be a full metal frame, just my preference for that caliber. I believe SIG offered a few 1911's chambered in 10mm as well at one point.
I think you are right about the 1911’s. Right now they don’t have any offered in 10mm tho. I like the metal frame the best but the x10 isn’t too snappy. I traded my Springfield XDM Elite (Compact) for the XTen - super happy with the trade!
I just got a X-Ten, 50 rounds of Federal 180gr fmj threw it, then the next week i tore my bicep tendon starting my backup generator for the winter.... So no more "strong side" shooting for at least 3 months... 🤨 Oh well i guess ill be better at weak side shooting by summer 👍.. Merry Christmas to you and your family!
@@steven3379 Merry MERRY Christmas to you as well! And THANK YOU so much for watching!!! Torn bicep sounds incredibly painful - hopefully it heals up okay/soon!!
Thank you for the review, very informative. I love my metal frame hammer fired pistols. However I did get a chance to hold and dry fire the Xten yesterday at my LGS, and man that grip is awesome. The trigger is pretty damn sweet and the extra capacity is just icing on the cake. Good post!
"no option for optics" on the 220 Legion...... Wrong. I purchased a Sig P220 Legion 10mm SAO last year. It came with the cutout in the slide. Was able to directly mount the Romeo 2 to the gun.
I have both the Glock 20 and the X 10. To make the G20 Equivalent you have to spend a few hundred more , both are good guns, With the KKM barrel the 20 will fire any ammo available, The X10 has to be broken in , The x10 mags are too stiff and won’t load 15 rds. The 20 shoots 15 out of the box , The x10 trigger is better than the 20. I had to get a Johnny Glock trigger to make them even
After the first range session the Sig mags are fine. It's really a non issue at this point. Especially for me now that I have about 1500 rnds through my XTen. It's rock solid reliable.
there is only one issue that I hate about the P220... it's price. there is a few 10mm firearms with better capacity for less in the market. 1- Glock 20 2- S&W M&P10 3- Springfield Armory XD-M elite in 10mm 4- IFG Tanfoglio Stock series in 10mm 5- FN510
@@TheArkansasGunGuy and you have to try the new Stribog pcc in 10mm... it's phenomenal. I went to my local range yesterday and they had one for testing.
There's a LOT more involved in machining and assembling a precision stainless steel frame and the extra parts involved in a hammer fired pistol. With the XTen they just mold a new frame out of plastic, drop the parts in, and boom, you have another mass produced plastic gun. I have both pistols.
@@adamshaw8214 Well... I have since sold the P320 XTen to my best friend. He loves it. It's a good gun but I prefer the heavy steel frames. I shoot the P220 more accurately than the P320, but that may not reflect on the guns, it could be from a variety of factors. The downsides of the P220 are the lower capacity and the heavier weight, neither of which bother me. The weight soaks up the recoil from the heaviest Underwood and Buffalo Bore loads, and the capacity isn't a thing for me. I bought the gun for carry in Alaska bear country. I think Jerry Miculek is the only guy on earth capable of emptying the gun (8+1) in the couple seconds a charging bear gives to react. The 15 round mags in a P320 wouldn't make a difference. The only thing I would have done differently is buy an SAO P220 instead of the DASA that I have. I prefer the SAO trigger.
I'll take the P220 for now. Sig likes to beta test all their new guns on the public. The Xten will probably be sorted out properly in two or three more years.
Because it was designed in the 70s before people got all weird about thinking they need to cram a whole box of ammo in their guns. The 10mm is more of a woods gun anyway. You worried about getting ganked by a tribe of ninja bears? LOL
@@jbsack That's for damn sure. The penetration of those 220 gr HC rounds is measured in feet, not inches. Plus you can use the even bigger 230 gr 10mm rounds in the P220 if you want.
Great comparison video! I'll take the P220, here's why.
Sigs P220 platform has a proven track record for many years on:
Reliability, Durability and Accuracy.
The 10mm P220s all Stainless Steel slide and frame give it the heft desired for control when shooting the real full power 10mm loads! The Super strong all metal recoil guide rod with braided recoil spring also help tame recoil. The P220 has a barrel with full chamber support and is reliable with all 10mm loadings. I have shot both the Sig P220 Legion and Scorpion models, out to 50 yards with excellent accuracy using S&B 180gr. fmj. Both P220s scoring 5 round groups of 2.25" and 3.85" Standing unsupported, slow fire. From 25 yards the 5 round groups were just over 1" (1.2"-1.3")!
wont Buy a single stack on principle
Just ordered a 220 legion. Thought about the SAO, but I have a 10mm 1911 so I opted for the DA/SA. Excited to get it next week ish.
Also, the updated 220s come optics ready so keep an eye out if you buy one. Some sites are selling the older version without the optics cut for the same price.
I did the exact same thing just yesterday. Hoping to try it out as soon as I get it from my FFL. 👍😎
Did not know the new ones came optic ready. Have had that 220 10mm Legion on my wish list forever. Now a better reason to buy!! Thanks for the info AND for watching!!
@@TheArkansasGunGuy Yep, I'll also confirm the P220 Legion 10mm is milled for optics. I have a Holosun EPS I'm planning to install. Took it to the range yesterday for the first time. Put a couple hundred rounds through it. Zero problems. It shot very well, but I'm going to take it apart and polish the friction points, then swap out the springs for the Armory Craft spring kit; the DA pull needs to be lightened and smoothed out to make me happy.
I wish SIG would redesign the magazine for double stack or 1 & 1/2 stack. Then the p220 would be perfect.
@@silentknights5796 They did that with the P227. Unfortunately it's never been made available in 10mm. It would require a steel frame as well.
Both are sweet guns, I would love to own both. One thing the P220 can do than the XTen can’t do is fire 230 grain ammunition.
And that's why I'm selling my XTen. I just ordered a P220 Legion 10mm to replace it. The new P220 Legion also comes with an optics cut.
@@Blakgun I have the P220 Stainless Elite and I love it. You will be happy with it.
Just picked up a P220 Scorpion 10mm a few days ago! I can't wait to use it!
@@friedicecream you are going to love it.
Why can’t the xten shoot 230 grain?
Excellent comparison. I prefer the Sig Legion P-220 in .10mm. 8(or 9) is good enough to get the job done. But that’s my opinion.
Based on your other video on this P220 Scorpion it sounds like the chances of finding one is slim and it won’t be at any lower sales price since all but the Legion are discontinued. I’ve had a few P220 models over the years in 45acp that were flawless, but I’m an avid 10mm fanatic myself. My EDC is a G20. My wife saw one of these Scorpions in the store last night priced at 1599 and really loved it. So looks like I better run back in the morning and grab it before it’s gone.
Although the 220 is nice, but for the back country it’s the x10 all day every day due to the weight savings and extra ammo capacity over the 220!
Thanks for a really useful review. I'm not a great fan of striker fired pistols (service pistol just switched to HK VP9...) and had more or less settled on the DA/SA P220 but your review gave me food for thought. Do you really feel that the reset on the XTEN is crisper/shorter than on the 220?
I'll take the SIG Sauer P220 5" 10mm Auto pistol every time, with the frame-mounted decocker and the DA/SA SRT trigger.
I just don't care for the SIG Sauer P320 and P365 pistols.
Good things! 👍
Thank You for the video presentation.
Plus I heard issues with the XTen like it having issues running hard cast. And issues with the magazines with loading the 15 round, plus when you slam the mag in with slide lock back and hit the release there are feeding issues
Do either or both of these have ramped barrels with full cartridge support for Heavy rounds ( such as Underwood or Buffalo Bore)? Thanks !!
I’m not entirely sure. I’ll dig the manuals out tonight and see if it specifies. Good question. THANK YOU for watching!
Yes, both do. But the XTen doesn't seem to chamber the 220gr rounds from either of those makers reliably. It feeds the 200gr no problem, but doesn't like the big boolitz. I'm taking a 10mm to Alaska in August for moose season, so I'm going to bring a P220 Legion with the heavy 220gr loads. I'll probably sell my XTen.
@@Blakgun Thanks for your time and insight--much appreciated !!
@@dtcowlick You're welcome. That is literally the ONLY issue I have with the XTen. Otherwise it's a fantastic striker fired pistol. The initial magazine stiffness is something I see complained about but that goes away soon with usage. I left the mags loaded for a couple weeks and that helped a lot, but just putting a few hundred rounds through the gun fixed it for good. Initially I used a LULA loader to get that last round in. By the way, Blakgun is also me. 😊
How did the XTEN compare to the P220 recoil wise? I imagine it feels more snappy? I'll end up with a 10mm one day but it will have to be a full metal frame, just my preference for that caliber. I believe SIG offered a few 1911's chambered in 10mm as well at one point.
I think you are right about the 1911’s. Right now they don’t have any offered in 10mm tho. I like the metal frame the best but the x10 isn’t too snappy. I traded my Springfield XDM Elite (Compact) for the XTen - super happy with the trade!
Also THANK YOU for watching!!
I just got a X-Ten, 50 rounds of Federal 180gr fmj threw it, then the next week i tore my bicep tendon starting my backup generator for the winter.... So no more "strong side" shooting for at least 3 months... 🤨 Oh well i guess ill be better at weak side shooting by summer 👍.. Merry Christmas to you and your family!
@@steven3379 Merry MERRY Christmas to you as well! And THANK YOU so much for watching!!! Torn bicep sounds incredibly painful - hopefully it heals up okay/soon!!
Thank you for the review, very informative. I love my metal frame hammer fired pistols. However I did get a chance to hold and dry fire the Xten yesterday at my LGS, and man that grip is awesome. The trigger is pretty damn sweet and the extra capacity is just icing on the cake. Good post!
I got the X10 for 700 out the door so far I like it
"no option for optics" on the 220 Legion...... Wrong. I purchased a Sig P220 Legion 10mm SAO last year. It came with the cutout in the slide. Was able to directly mount the Romeo 2 to the gun.
I have both the Glock 20 and the X 10. To make the G20
Equivalent you have to spend a few hundred more , both are good guns, With the KKM barrel the 20 will fire any ammo available, The X10 has to be broken in , The x10 mags are too stiff and won’t load 15 rds. The 20 shoots 15 out of the box , The x10 trigger is better than the 20. I had to get a Johnny Glock trigger to make them even
After the first range session the Sig mags are fine. It's really a non issue at this point. Especially for me now that I have about 1500 rnds through my XTen. It's rock solid reliable.
In my other comment i forgot to say how sweet your P220 is, very nice Indeed! 🎄🎄
there is only one issue that I hate about the P220... it's price.
there is a few 10mm firearms with better capacity for less in the market.
1- Glock 20
2- S&W M&P10
3- Springfield Armory XD-M elite in 10mm
4- IFG Tanfoglio Stock series in 10mm
5- FN510
They are very pricey. I had the XDM briefly and liked it. Thanks so much for watching!!!
@@TheArkansasGunGuy and you have to try the new Stribog pcc in 10mm... it's phenomenal. I went to my local range yesterday and they had one for testing.
I'll take the 220 any day, thank you.
Hard to beat the original. Love mine. I want the Legion version also (SAO).
Thank you so much for watching!!
8 rounds of slow ass 45 acp over 15 rounds of way more powerful 10mm yeah no thanks i'll take the xten all day every day any day
@@smoothshot8925 P220 in 10mm, I can whack traffic cones all day at 50 yards with the Romeo red dot on it.
@@smoothshot8925 Did you watch the video at all? The p220 is a 10mm lol.
What are your thoughts on FN 510
turd
Why is the 220 diuble the price?
Not sure. I’m sure materials is biggest part of it with metal vs polymer. Not sure what else drives it up. Thanks for watching!
There's a LOT more involved in machining and assembling a precision stainless steel frame and the extra parts involved in a hammer fired pistol. With the XTen they just mold a new frame out of plastic, drop the parts in, and boom, you have another mass produced plastic gun. I have both pistols.
@@Blakgunwhich one do you like best?
@@adamshaw8214 Well... I have since sold the P320 XTen to my best friend. He loves it. It's a good gun but I prefer the heavy steel frames. I shoot the P220 more accurately than the P320, but that may not reflect on the guns, it could be from a variety of factors. The downsides of the P220 are the lower capacity and the heavier weight, neither of which bother me. The weight soaks up the recoil from the heaviest Underwood and Buffalo Bore loads, and the capacity isn't a thing for me. I bought the gun for carry in Alaska bear country. I think Jerry Miculek is the only guy on earth capable of emptying the gun (8+1) in the couple seconds a charging bear gives to react. The 15 round mags in a P320 wouldn't make a difference.
The only thing I would have done differently is buy an SAO P220 instead of the DASA that I have. I prefer the SAO trigger.
One gun looks great. Other gun looks cheap
I'll take the P220 for now. Sig likes to beta test all their new guns on the public. The Xten will probably be sorted out properly in two or three more years.
Man they are making so many new guns so fast it's hard to keep up!!!!! THANK YOU for watching!!
There's nothing wrong with my XTen after approx 1500 rounds. That said, I prefer the P220 so I'll be selling my XTen at some point soon.
P220 is a SINGLE STACK? Why lord, why?
Because it was designed in the 70s before people got all weird about thinking they need to cram a whole box of ammo in their guns. The 10mm is more of a woods gun anyway. You worried about getting ganked by a tribe of ninja bears? LOL
@@Blakgun Not bears. Alligators with frickin' lazer bearms on thier heads. I live in Florida.
9 rounds of 200 or 220 hard cast enough to take down anything.
@@jbsack That's for damn sure. The penetration of those 220 gr HC rounds is measured in feet, not inches. Plus you can use the even bigger 230 gr 10mm rounds in the P220 if you want.
@@Blakgun
Tell me you’ve never been in a gunfight without telling me you’ve never been in a gun fight. LOL
Sorry I missed it
Usp 10mm LOL no no
Just take my money now!!! (:
Screw sig. When they dumped the 357sig i decided id never buy their guns .
That's a brilliant and well thought out reason. Nicely done. LOL