I mean its a good way to hold GGG accountable and build a lot of attention for your channel. I forget the League of Legends content creators name, but one of them said that's how he knew what to build for tourneys.
@@taisharx lolol says the martian. do beings on your planet EVER smile? or is WAR all that you know? lol. these are, after all, VIDEO GAMES. they were intended to be, you know, FUN. lol. or have you never heard of FUN????? i think this is most likely.
The convo at the end; The creator mentioned: simplyVizniz (used for both TH-cam and Twitch) The tech Rue mentioned, Penance Mark is a Mark granted only by The Hateful Accuser ring (King in the Mists drop)
@@Seriously_Bro. I know this response has to be a joke, but since jokes don't go over well on the internet I'll say this as a tip, if its obviously stupid, just assume its a joke.
Honestly, that's what made this such and awesome video. These are two of the top build creators, but you get their opinions without having to sort through 5 meme layers first.
omg i didn't know Rue made poe content!!! i always listen to his songs while i play poe and now that i know he makes builds as well i'm really happy for him
Players that are new to the game may want pob with sections like: - detailed campaign (complete list of skill gems for the build and when/where to obtain, multiple trees showing progression like every 20 points or so) - t1 to t13 (cheap crafts or 1c uniques, cap res, have decent HP) + (a link to an atlas progression guide/tree) - first two stones (make sure you have ascendancies, a 5link maybe) + (recommend to leave one atlas page blank to check on farming guides 2 days into the league) - last two stones (maybe 6link now, any extra layer of defense) - at this point elite players may upload what seems good for farming currency, make a vod about different strats) - minimum entry for ubers or t17 with some notes on what to avoid based on build (this mods are a NO for the build, also have this flasks on stash for certain bosses etc). - very comfy and very expensive version. (if you do everything right to this points is just up to your degenerate mind to endlessly farm for divines/mirrors, still sane?)
I agree! I find even with the max roll guides as I new player I don’t even know what the hell mid vs end game is. There’s really good campaign guides but these guys just get to maps and there pob magicly gain 17mil dps, like how does your build go from 2-3-10div to 100? What the hell am I doing from 10d up?
Yo, I will be trying PoE for the very first time when this new season starts. Not got a lot of gaming experience and the only game like this i have ever played is Diablo 4 (i know i know people say its bad). Is there anyone you would recommend for an absolute beginner scrub to follow a build guide of? I have look around online a little but obviously due to my lack of experience I understand pretty much nothing of most guides lol.
Damn man…. Rue was cordial and actually chill. I’m pleasantly surprised. And I do nothing but test builds from creators so I always love hearing and seeing Jung. I have tested so many of his builds and the out of left field approach on some of them is absolutely refreshing. For awhile I could always count on Lethe Shade being in there and maybe the power charge stacking. But always unique and fun. Granted you are left to your own devices to getting the build to test readiness but that is fine. Learning how to get builds ready is easy by watching a TyTy run based off your build. I have learned so much just watching his runs. So many epiphany moments like ah damn that’s how it’s done on some white gear with minimal sockets and easy use of early crafting bench using shit off the ground.
Yeah I had to do a re-take a couple times, Jung speaks quickly and Discord voice quality did him dirty. Figured more people would have the same issue. 😅 -Skryah
@@SeekAkron endurance charges getting majorly buffed is a buff to slayer. it was good before true, but it also got buffed by proxy while a lot of other ascendencies ate shit in the defense department
I'd love to hear some actual level/gear/atlas progression thresholds for what is considered early, mid and late game (and even "leveling") because those terms are thrown around a lot like the listener is supposed to know what they refer to but it seems like not everyone is referring to the same transition points for all of their characters/builds. Thanks for getting these two together like this Ziz!
I would anticipate that any build guide/creator is going to assume that beginning of the campaign all the way to white maps is 'early game' in terms of progression thresholds. It's very rare that any build will require specific itemization at this point. There may be bis items that you can buy for 1-2 chaos to help your build speed its way into yellow maps but other than that not much to think about other than getting enough sockets in your items to link your skill gems. I personally tend to go on a short shopping spree either right before a10 Kitava fight or after. At this point you can pick up a few 1-2 chaos items that will be 'build defining' for early mapping. What these items will include depends on the build you're playing but generally you might consider things like a low rolled emperor's vigilance for SST or a Wasp Nest for cobra lash etc. These early-mid items should comfortably carry you through white and yellow maps and only moving into red tier maps will you have to upgrade your other item slots or upgrade to a better version to replace said item with. Obviously you should still be upgrading all your gear pieces as you progress but generally it might be a good idea to invest currency at this point or save up for your first 'gg' item. I believe most people consider endgame to begin around tier 15-16 maps and moving into t17's and ubers. This is intended as a pretty loose general rule of thumb guide or metric by means of which to map out your progression. Every build and playstyle will be different and so there's probably a lot of flexibility when it comes to considering itemization choices and transition points in builds. Individual guides will likely have more information and recommendations when it comes to these choices.
@@John_Stern I see! In my head, and from the amalgamation of what I've heard, I assumed the campaign is basically disregarded as part of the "real" game and the early, mid and late game only starts in maps. At this point the campaign really is trivial, and I've even heard (I can't remember where) someone say that early game doesn't even start until yellow maps. I always assumed late game exclusively means uber bosses, so I've never actually reached that idea of late game.
As a guy who makes builds and occasionally even posts them places, this was one of my favorite things that you've ever done Ziz. I wholeheartedly agree with almost everything that Rue in particular says, a lot of it is even some of the mid-to-high level thought that switches you from making solid builds to making all content builds. Thanks to Jung and Rue for a great conversation.
at my start in poe for searching a build, the first thing my guild told me: If in your Leaguestarter is a Mageblood or Headhunter, this is not a Leaguestarter, better ignore the Creator
@@vanillaice7749 Agreed, I just see no reason to talk trash about a fellow creator. Rue particularly though isn't capable of just criticizing someones build. He resorts to insulting the person themselves. Just sad.
@@theelder4797 he himself is a very good player "mechanically", so he execute builds better than most average players. He does makes it looks easier than it is. And also his builds often have lots of buttons :)) I hate that
I have a question regarding Tinctures, but don't know where else to ask it, so will toss it on here to see: Tinctures cause Mana Burn. Eldritch Battery protects Mana with Energy Shield. Is there a combination here? Will sufficient Energy Shield recovery take care of Mana Burn, similar to how enough Life Recovery handles Righteous Fire (well, the bit that manages to get through past other defenses)? Also, will Mana Burn ever go past 100%, or is 100% the cap?
I am very happy to hear you are doing a SST Glad Bleed build! That is exactly what I settled on after doing a bunch of skill testing yesterday to see what I liked the feel of. I look forward to your guide!
Who was that creator they were talking about at the end there? The one Rue mentioned. They referenced him as 'Simply Business' perhaps or 'Viz'? And where does Rue post his builds and PoBs?
Probably returning to this league after the last 4 have been. It looks so good now and excited for the changes! What's gonna be a good league starter?? I'm thinking maybe going Flicker Strike or something of that nature. Thoughts?
I love how Jung build a character, every pob i saved from his videos and studying it they are all so balance, I feel like I'm playing hc than sc. The only thing that maybe players hate to his builds is that you need to press lot of skills but thats okay ggg put hotkeys like 1,2,3,4,5, qwerty for specific reason.
Ziz sempre surpreende nos convidados, sempre uma novidade, não vou escrever em ingles pq acho importante o Portugues, assim como o Espanhol, ser disseminado com mais facilidade pela web. Obrigado pelo conteudo Ziz!
I agree that theres a mental tax on paying for carries and taking the easy way for things. Time savers are nice and all, but at a certain point, youre not playing the game anymore.
I felt dirty asking for my UE carry in affliction, was too far behind. Worked out tho as he did my maven as well and got the credit for the uber pinnacle versions. Only had to kill two uber pinnacles myself for the challenge later in the league.
Personally, I think that if you're asking for a carry then there's something seriously wrong with the game's progression. A carry is effectively a sequence break on the endgame, and the fact that it's been normalized by the community doesn't change that.
I disagree. I play only mappers so they naturally suck at bosses. I also don´t like bossing at all, so I skip it if possible. It´s the same for me as buying an item for my character. Why would I feel bad to skip something I don´t enjoy?
This is the one thing I’ll never do, even if it’s technically more efficient. Fighting bosses is my favourite part of this game and I feel a genuine sense of accomplishment every time I earn my own voidstones on leaguestart. I might pay for a 6th map slot though.
Fair warning, this was before GGG updated the description to Eternal Damnation, it now sets your max charges to 0. Meaning you CANNOT have endurance charges with ED.
So much hate on rue lmao, just to show how unaware people are, just some examples, one of the cheapest and strongest league starters in history COC DD was made by rue, remember that insane SST build in crucible league? Also made by him. He also made some of the strongest FR builds.
The hatred comes from how much of a pos he can be. Not that his builds are bad. I've followed plenty of his builds but he is toxic as hell and I genuinely don't like him. You can't argue his builds are bad though.
@@chilimomilli9176 the problem is people are just calling him a bad build maker, I've being following him rue since his "rueland" arc, ofc I know he's toxic.
I am league starting chief with a focus on warcry effect. Feeling like intimidating speed buff full uptime throughout campaign will be nice. Defenses will be insane as well. Obviously I want to flesh abd flame that warcry node and swap to jugg when I can.
New crafting is gonna be insane. Reave of refraction with well t1 triple ele weap with the unquie craft ele damage hits resistance as inverted. Or something of that type of nature.
the locus mines setup is insane defensively, i generally only play on the right side ascendancies, the only char i've made that was stronger than this was a mana inststacking ascendant but it had 5 mirrors worth of investment compared to this 2-3 divine build
What is the go-to early game frenzy charge generation for Slayer? Just Blood Rage? Or is there anything that works on single target and isn't pain to get on day 1?
blood rage starting in act 2 + disciple of the slaughter that you'll grab around lvl 50. The leveling tree for slayer cyclone has 6 frenzies and 6 endurance charges with full up time as of second lab (masterful form). The mark mastery gives 10% chance to fan a frenzy on hit vs marked enemy, which gives uptime for bosses.
Penance Mark was one of three curses you had available in Affliction which permanently made your hits on the target spawn little wraiths who basically did nothing but attack you with insignificant hits. The benefit back then was that these wraiths enabled on-kill effects in bossfights where you usually can't kill anything while fighting. This league they introduced ritual-only unique rings which basically give these curses back, but the idea Ruetoo is talking about is that these wraiths fix the problem of the gladiator lucky block node running out (because bosses sometimes don't hit you often enough to keep it up) by attacking you. Personally, I don't think it matters that much in softcore; you'll have difficulty not accidentally killing the wraiths each time they spawn if your main skill is AOE (bc they spawn close to the marked enemy) unless you use something like double strike, and for block to become your main defense layer, you should have enough block chance even without the lucky node that you statistically should survive the possible downtime of not having lucky block on.
It sounded like "Viz" to me. Could be the content creator "simplyVizniz" but i'm uncertain for sure. EDIT: Further down someone also said the same guy.
Overall loved the video for helping make builds. It was hard to keep up at times because you guys all use so many acronyms and shortened descriptions for things that after years of off and on playing PoE I couldn't keep up with what you were describing.
Maybe someone can explain this to me because I run 5 endurance charge Elementalist with Max Effect Chaos Golem and I'm sitting at 40% Physical resist before armor. Combined with Stone Golem Regen and Shaper of Flames I feel like it's one of the easiest and most resilient ascendancies out there; what am I missing that these guys aren't?
The big concern with that kind of a setup is that in really hard content where the defenses are most important, the golems are at risk of dying and then your defenses are down.
In case you don't have an answer yet, endurance charges used to get 4% physical damage reduction and 4% to all ele res. In 3.25 instead of the resistance they now get 4% ele damage reduction, which is a super strong defensiv layer. Let's say you take 1000 fire damage. With 75% fire res that gets reduced to 250 damage. Now if you have 5 endurance charges that's an additional 20% reduction, so you only take 200 damage. If you now invest into additional max res and extra endurance charges it gets pretty nuts. If you have 90% ele res and 10 endurance charges you take only 60 damage from a hit that deals 1000 ele damage.
I have no clue what to go for as a newbie. I've only played bow builds so far. I'm completely lost lol guess I'll have to wait for some recommendations
if you are new DO NOT follow any build made by jung or ruetoo their builds tend to be extremely expensive and complicated. your best options are zizaran's builds, phox rightous fire build and whatever guides maxroll does this league. there is also a list of leaguestarters over on the pathofexilebuilds subreddit (not to be confused with the youtubechannel that one is a scam). this list will have most builds made by reputable sources.
Would you be able to recommend some budget builds? I did lightning strike on a budget last league and loved it. Still the most fun i have had in a league though i didnt like Necropolis.
![Locus Mine Power Siphon League Starter Build [Path of Exile 3.25]](/img/n.gif)
Big thanks to Jung and Ruetoo for the collab!
Don't be cringe in the comments
Well, I wasn't going to, but now I have to be cringe.
glad you got ruetoo in there
So did i hear right? You are going to start SST Glad? When is the POB Dropping! :)
Thanks for all your hard Work
don't you tell me what to do, daddy ziz. i will cringe as much as i want! thank you for the content!
*cringes*
Scrolling through bug reports for build ideas is diabolical, lol.
yeah lmao but that's actually low-key genius🤣🤣
I mean its a good way to hold GGG accountable and build a lot of attention for your channel.
I forget the League of Legends content creators name, but one of them said that's how he knew what to build for tourneys.
Least degenerate POE chad.
maybe. but it's also a bit genius. to me, it's just comedy gold. but, as "out-of-the-box" thinking goes, its definitely genius.
@@taisharx lolol says the martian. do beings on your planet EVER smile? or is WAR all that you know? lol. these are, after all, VIDEO GAMES. they were intended to be, you know, FUN. lol. or have you never heard of FUN????? i think this is most likely.
The convo at the end;
The creator mentioned: simplyVizniz (used for both TH-cam and Twitch)
The tech Rue mentioned, Penance Mark is a Mark granted only by The Hateful Accuser ring (King in the Mists drop)
Was looking for this. Thanks!
This is a public service
I cant see the clip about this tech
I was looking at the Wiki and could not link the skill with the item. Thanks!
Turns out I already had him subscribed lol, he got recommended to me then
Really brave of Rue to finally use a facecam
@@Seriously_Bro. Really lol, that was the point of the joke...
??????? @@Seriously_Bro.
@@Dragnarok28 i think he just followed the joke x)
@@Seriously_Bro. I know this response has to be a joke, but since jokes don't go over well on the internet I'll say this as a tip, if its obviously stupid, just assume its a joke.
He's so cute!
Somehow my first time seeing Jungroan, immediately a fan. Eloquent and knows his stuff. Thanks for hosting and thanks to the guests for participating.
That opening line won me
A pleasure to listen to for sure.
I love mature Jungroan, it really is a pleasure listening to him talk. You can tell he knows his stuff.
Pretty sure hes like a student doctor or something
same
I love these 2 cats working together.
hilarious watching these two on their best behavior... its like they are doing a podcast with their dad or something LOL
Yeah, it's a complete different story when they make builds🤣
We need Ziz to third party all our build questions to Ruetoo lol
Honestly, that's what made this such and awesome video. These are two of the top build creators, but you get their opinions without having to sort through 5 meme layers first.
Your Displate ad was interrupted by TH-cam ads, with a TH-cam ad for Displate.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Imagine not having revanced or ublock for phone/pc. RIP.
@@auranos9504 If you run adblock it bogs down youtube and your memory starts screaming.
@@auranos9504 Imagine not using phone but a device like TV. Or company issued mac that you cannot instal adblock on :P
We went full circle
omg i didn't know Rue made poe content!!! i always listen to his songs while i play poe and now that i know he makes builds as well i'm really happy for him
Players that are new to the game may want pob with sections like:
- detailed campaign (complete list of skill gems for the build and when/where to obtain, multiple trees showing progression like every 20 points or so)
- t1 to t13 (cheap crafts or 1c uniques, cap res, have decent HP) + (a link to an atlas progression guide/tree)
- first two stones (make sure you have ascendancies, a 5link maybe) + (recommend to leave one atlas page blank to check on farming guides 2 days into the league)
- last two stones (maybe 6link now, any extra layer of defense)
- at this point elite players may upload what seems good for farming currency, make a vod about different strats)
- minimum entry for ubers or t17 with some notes on what to avoid based on build (this mods are a NO for the build, also have this flasks on stash for certain bosses etc).
- very comfy and very expensive version. (if you do everything right to this points is just up to your degenerate mind to endlessly farm for divines/mirrors, still sane?)
This can be found on Maxroll guides, which imo is the best website for new players who don't understand shit.
I agree! I find even with the max roll guides as I new player I don’t even know what the hell mid vs end game is. There’s really good campaign guides but these guys just get to maps and there pob magicly gain 17mil dps, like how does your build go from 2-3-10div to 100? What the hell am I doing from 10d up?
Phox’s guides enters the chat!!
Yo, I will be trying PoE for the very first time when this new season starts. Not got a lot of gaming experience and the only game like this i have ever played is Diablo 4 (i know i know people say its bad). Is there anyone you would recommend for an absolute beginner scrub to follow a build guide of? I have look around online a little but obviously due to my lack of experience I understand pretty much nothing of most guides lol.
@@jalengibbs5403 Max roll guides are kinda trash tbh. A good build just has extensive notes in the pob and gear sets with notes how to craft them.
Damn man…. Rue was cordial and actually chill. I’m pleasantly surprised. And I do nothing but test builds from creators so I always love hearing and seeing Jung. I have tested so many of his builds and the out of left field approach on some of them is absolutely refreshing. For awhile I could always count on Lethe Shade being in there and maybe the power charge stacking. But always unique and fun. Granted you are left to your own devices to getting the build to test readiness but that is fine. Learning how to get builds ready is easy by watching a TyTy run based off your build. I have learned so much just watching his runs. So many epiphany moments like ah damn that’s how it’s done on some white gear with minimal sockets and easy use of early crafting bench using shit off the ground.
This was a genuine pleasure to watch. Thanks for doing this, everyone!
Pointless inviting Ruetoo all i can hear is meow meow meow.
He even pushed my drink from the table... what a pr...ck
@@Seriously_Bro. how much they paying you on Tha Joke Police? eh?
@@Seriously_Bro. even using the word joke to describe this is too generous lmao
@@Seriously_Bro. Sorry show me how its done please.
@@Seriously_Bro. get some therapy u need it
I'm glad he put a caption saying "low suffix pressure" definitely thought he was saying "low self expressure"
Yeah I had to do a re-take a couple times, Jung speaks quickly and Discord voice quality did him dirty. Figured more people would have the same issue. 😅
-Skryah
Heard it as "low socket pressure". 😁
Row seRf expLession! Stupid round eye, no eat dog, veLLy bad!
this video probably just convinced thousands of players (including me) to find a slayer starter lol
Slayer didnt even change, it's been great forever, always my go to ascendancy. New endurance is just icing on the cake
@@SeekAkron endurance charges getting majorly buffed is a buff to slayer. it was good before true, but it also got buffed by proxy while a lot of other ascendencies ate shit in the defense department
have fun with the physical hits when u dive into a mob xD
I'd love to hear some actual level/gear/atlas progression thresholds for what is considered early, mid and late game (and even "leveling") because those terms are thrown around a lot like the listener is supposed to know what they refer to but it seems like not everyone is referring to the same transition points for all of their characters/builds. Thanks for getting these two together like this Ziz!
I would anticipate that any build guide/creator is going to assume that beginning of the campaign all the way to white maps is 'early game' in terms of progression thresholds. It's very rare that any build will require specific itemization at this point. There may be bis items that you can buy for 1-2 chaos to help your build speed its way into yellow maps but other than that not much to think about other than getting enough sockets in your items to link your skill gems. I personally tend to go on a short shopping spree either right before a10 Kitava fight or after. At this point you can pick up a few 1-2 chaos items that will be 'build defining' for early mapping. What these items will include depends on the build you're playing but generally you might consider things like a low rolled emperor's vigilance for SST or a Wasp Nest for cobra lash etc. These early-mid items should comfortably carry you through white and yellow maps and only moving into red tier maps will you have to upgrade your other item slots or upgrade to a better version to replace said item with. Obviously you should still be upgrading all your gear pieces as you progress but generally it might be a good idea to invest currency at this point or save up for your first 'gg' item. I believe most people consider endgame to begin around tier 15-16 maps and moving into t17's and ubers.
This is intended as a pretty loose general rule of thumb guide or metric by means of which to map out your progression. Every build and playstyle will be different and so there's probably a lot of flexibility when it comes to considering itemization choices and transition points in builds. Individual guides will likely have more information and recommendations when it comes to these choices.
@@John_Stern I see! In my head, and from the amalgamation of what I've heard, I assumed the campaign is basically disregarded as part of the "real" game and the early, mid and late game only starts in maps. At this point the campaign really is trivial, and I've even heard (I can't remember where) someone say that early game doesn't even start until yellow maps. I always assumed late game exclusively means uber bosses, so I've never actually reached that idea of late game.
@@TylerDaneearly game is everything before quest bosses,mid game is everything before ubers and t17s/extremely juiced maps/valdos,etc.
As a guy who makes builds and occasionally even posts them places, this was one of my favorite things that you've ever done Ziz. I wholeheartedly agree with almost everything that Rue in particular says, a lot of it is even some of the mid-to-high level thought that switches you from making solid builds to making all content builds. Thanks to Jung and Rue for a great conversation.
I watch a lot of creators and they talk about “The cat” Occasionally. I never knew what that joke was about now I get it 😂😅
Love these 2, did you have to pre-emptively have to ask them to behave?
Thank you all for being wonderful!
at my start in poe for searching a build, the first thing my guild told me: If in your Leaguestarter is a Mageblood or Headhunter, this is not a Leaguestarter, better ignore the Creator
When I saw the video I 100% thought zizz had managed to get rue and lance together on the subject
Would have been epic
Poor lance. Roasted for 30 mins
@@AlexLazzarotto Poor Rue, manchild that can't keep talking behind peoples back. One day he'll grow up...actually probably not.
@@truedps8 They're all low-T nerds.
@@vanillaice7749 Agreed, I just see no reason to talk trash about a fellow creator. Rue particularly though isn't capable of just criticizing someones build. He resorts to insulting the person themselves. Just sad.
Anyone have links or a pob for the auto warcry slammer mentioned?
rue does a great job helping i think with his builds in chat
Really enjoyed this Q/A for a little different look at build creation. Thank you Ziz, Jung, and Ruetoo!
You asked jung about leaguestarter and you expect honest answer? 😂😂😂
This had to be a troll video if you asking Jungroan for starter build lol.
Jungmoan the master baiter
Don't know this guy, is he known to be dishonest for some reason?
@@theelder4797 All I know his starter build videos are all bait as fuck. Not sure about the other ones lol.
@@theelder4797 he himself is a very good player "mechanically", so he execute builds better than most average players. He does makes it looks easier than it is. And also his builds often have lots of buttons :)) I hate that
I have a question regarding Tinctures, but don't know where else to ask it, so will toss it on here to see: Tinctures cause Mana Burn. Eldritch Battery protects Mana with Energy Shield. Is there a combination here? Will sufficient Energy Shield recovery take care of Mana Burn, similar to how enough Life Recovery handles Righteous Fire (well, the bit that manages to get through past other defenses)? Also, will Mana Burn ever go past 100%, or is 100% the cap?
hmm no wand build recomendations?
I am very happy to hear you are doing a SST Glad Bleed build! That is exactly what I settled on after doing a bunch of skill testing yesterday to see what I liked the feel of. I look forward to your guide!
Thanks for this interview Ziz, Jung, and Rue!
Who is the content creator rue mentioned at the end (gladiator penance brand block thing)?
SimplyVizNiz
The quality content i need.
I'll do it like every league and just play what Ziz told me to play.
Hi . This is my 3rd league. I played ice shot deadeye . Planning to play the elemental warden. What Armor is good for me ?
Are official forums still the best place to search for builds or that changed?
I love the timing of this video.
Who was that creator they were talking about at the end there? The one Rue mentioned. They referenced him as 'Simply Business' perhaps or 'Viz'? And where does Rue post his builds and PoBs?
simplyVizniz
@@Sporrik ty
Visit his twitch or discord for builds
Great questions and interview, Ziz!
Probably returning to this league after the last 4 have been. It looks so good now and excited for the changes! What's gonna be a good league starter?? I'm thinking maybe going Flicker Strike or something of that nature. Thoughts?
5:18 fells like a diss to somebody... :)
shots fired
Jung covering his face laughing was perfect. Also Ziz putting BEST BUILD CREATORS in all caps is a bit of a jab too lmao
@@kidpolygon802 how is that a jab ? "2 of the best" is a blanket statement no one would disagree with , lance is in that list aswell
@@user-ib1dd1yi7d No he's not, you're just riding his d. The dude is recycling the same build
@@user-ib1dd1yi7d Lance said that Rue is not a build maker. Ziz put in all caps that Rue is a build maker
I love how Jung build a character, every pob i saved from his videos and studying it they are all so balance, I feel like I'm playing hc than sc. The only thing that maybe players hate to his builds is that you need to press lot of skills but thats okay ggg put hotkeys like 1,2,3,4,5, qwerty for specific reason.
Ziz sempre surpreende nos convidados, sempre uma novidade, não vou escrever em ingles pq acho importante o Portugues, assim como o Espanhol, ser disseminado com mais facilidade pela web. Obrigado pelo conteudo Ziz!
26:45 3 Leaguestarters from CATW and jung
thanks, scrolling for this LOOL
The hero we needed.
helal olsun
How do you fit Ralakesh into Occultist... ?
Who are they talking about @31:15?
simplyvizniz
Hexblast mines could be good again maybe for a starting build?
This was awesome! Good job
Best part of the advert: Steelmage walking around with the pictures xD
Love the video. Would also love to see like links to people or creators you referenced during the podcasts.
Perfect video as I'm cooking a build for the first time, thabks for all 3!
I agree that theres a mental tax on paying for carries and taking the easy way for things. Time savers are nice and all, but at a certain point, youre not playing the game anymore.
I felt dirty asking for my UE carry in affliction, was too far behind. Worked out tho as he did my maven as well and got the credit for the uber pinnacle versions. Only had to kill two uber pinnacles myself for the challenge later in the league.
Personally, I think that if you're asking for a carry then there's something seriously wrong with the game's progression. A carry is effectively a sequence break on the endgame, and the fact that it's been normalized by the community doesn't change that.
@@kirascendant its just that UE is locked behind some significant grinding and the voidstone is a pain to get.
I disagree. I play only mappers so they naturally suck at bosses. I also don´t like bossing at all, so I skip it if possible. It´s the same for me as buying an item for my character. Why would I feel bad to skip something I don´t enjoy?
This is the one thing I’ll never do, even if it’s technically more efficient. Fighting bosses is my favourite part of this game and I feel a genuine sense of accomplishment every time I earn my own voidstones on leaguestart.
I might pay for a 6th map slot though.
Fair warning, this was before GGG updated the description to Eternal Damnation, it now sets your max charges to 0. Meaning you CANNOT have endurance charges with ED.
So much hate on rue lmao, just to show how unaware people are, just some examples, one of the cheapest and strongest league starters in history COC DD was made by rue, remember that insane SST build in crucible league? Also made by him. He also made some of the strongest FR builds.
The hatred comes from how much of a pos he can be. Not that his builds are bad. I've followed plenty of his builds but he is toxic as hell and I genuinely don't like him. You can't argue his builds are bad though.
@@chilimomilli9176 the problem is people are just calling him a bad build maker, I've being following him rue since his "rueland" arc, ofc I know he's toxic.
@MattDoesLife539 If anyone is calling him a bad build creator then they're just stupid 😂
@@chilimomilli9176sounds like a massive pussy excuse, how can you be offended by anything if it didn't cause you directly physical suffering
Very informative video fellas. SST Glad is looking like a solid safe starter for me as well
Great interview!
I am league starting chief with a focus on warcry effect. Feeling like intimidating speed buff full uptime throughout campaign will be nice. Defenses will be insane as well. Obviously I want to flesh abd flame that warcry node and swap to jugg when I can.
New crafting is gonna be insane. Reave of refraction with well t1 triple ele weap with the unquie craft ele damage hits resistance as inverted. Or something of that type of nature.
Thats a very good point about nerfed builds and cheap gear. In TFT, often times weaker builds perform very well simply because theyre so free.
This video coming out before the FAQ and all the talk of Ralakesh+Eternal Damnation being OP feels bad lol
guys what streamer told rue about block mech? i couldnt find
same
found it, simplyvizniz
@@Twelvetailfox_Grind ty bro
30:57 , whats that tech ? or name of the skill I only lnow it use pence mark xD from what he said
Ask Vizniz
Penance mark. They're talking about what you're thinking of and it sounds about as unreliable as without it ontop of using a curse AND a ring.
Chaos Golem on elementalist can give nearly 20% phys reduction if you build golems.
the locus mines setup is insane defensively, i generally only play on the right side ascendancies, the only char i've made that was stronger than this was a mana inststacking ascendant but it had 5 mirrors worth of investment compared to this 2-3 divine build
Slayer Glacial Hammer feels like it's going to be pretty darn good this league. Like crazy good.
Lightning strike Slayer should be interesting. You can instant leech with melee thanks to VP, and still overleech from projectiles.
What is the go-to early game frenzy charge generation for Slayer? Just Blood Rage? Or is there anything that works on single target and isn't pain to get on day 1?
Mastery
blood rage starting in act 2 + disciple of the slaughter that you'll grab around lvl 50. The leveling tree for slayer cyclone has 6 frenzies and 6 endurance charges with full up time as of second lab (masterful form). The mark mastery gives 10% chance to fan a frenzy on hit vs marked enemy, which gives uptime for bosses.
What is that build at 31:00 they talking about? Sound too good to not be a meme
Penance Mark was one of three curses you had available in Affliction which permanently made your hits on the target spawn little wraiths who basically did nothing but attack you with insignificant hits. The benefit back then was that these wraiths enabled on-kill effects in bossfights where you usually can't kill anything while fighting.
This league they introduced ritual-only unique rings which basically give these curses back, but the idea Ruetoo is talking about is that these wraiths fix the problem of the gladiator lucky block node running out (because bosses sometimes don't hit you often enough to keep it up) by attacking you.
Personally, I don't think it matters that much in softcore; you'll have difficulty not accidentally killing the wraiths each time they spawn if your main skill is AOE (bc they spawn close to the marked enemy) unless you use something like double strike, and for block to become your main defense layer, you should have enough block chance even without the lucky node that you statistically should survive the possible downtime of not having lucky block on.
Really like these types of videos good insights and interesting
Who was the person they were talking about at 31ish minutes?
It sounded like "Viz" to me. Could be the content creator "simplyVizniz" but i'm uncertain for sure.
EDIT: Further down someone also said the same guy.
Vizniz, he makes great builds and often finishes the Gauntlet in the podiums.
-Skryah
Overall loved the video for helping make builds. It was hard to keep up at times because you guys all use so many acronyms and shortened descriptions for things that after years of off and on playing PoE I couldn't keep up with what you were describing.
Rues advice about noting content creators builds who have sucked and not doing their builds again for a while is how I treat Jungroan 😂😂😂
Steelmage randomly walking into the Displate ad killed me 😂
I haven't looked at the new slayer yet, and in my head I'm imagining that they all just agreed to meme and say it's good.
Do you know how Arc is gonna be in the new league?
Maybe someone can explain this to me because I run 5 endurance charge Elementalist with Max Effect Chaos Golem and I'm sitting at 40% Physical resist before armor. Combined with Stone Golem Regen and Shaper of Flames I feel like it's one of the easiest and most resilient ascendancies out there; what am I missing that these guys aren't?
The big concern with that kind of a setup is that in really hard content where the defenses are most important, the golems are at risk of dying and then your defenses are down.
Any attack skill on a Slayer does sound like a lot of fun. Sold!
How about LA deadeye? I want tips. what to do. I have never played this.
Another Sanctum enjoyer. I'll be playing that, and maybe hiest this league
Having fun is the best build.
hey Ziz, are you doing a pod with steel, mathil & quin - and when will it be if so?
i wonder what endurance charge melee build can be used for easy aoe map clearing and being good with blight ravaged maps. Any ideas?
SST bleed pop should be very good for blight and not bad for map clearing.
frost blades of katabasis
where can i find Ruetoos league start builds?
His stream has a Google docs, or you can look the i love ruetuee channel
chat command on his twitch channel has a google doc link
Thanks!
They're just recycled builds of other creators not his
Not enough DRAMA
rue took a shot early on lol.
I'd rather have not enough drama than not enough mana
@@valjohnson7112I mean he was not wrong. If the glove fits... lol
@@deceiver444 that's what lifetap is for
@@GRIMHOOD99 always lifetapping the heck out of leap slam in early campaign when I go melee.
lol what is endurance charges and why is it so important to you guys? I played about 1.5 seasons and furthest I got was two void stones.
In case you don't have an answer yet, endurance charges used to get 4% physical damage reduction and 4% to all ele res. In 3.25 instead of the resistance they now get 4% ele damage reduction, which is a super strong defensiv layer. Let's say you take 1000 fire damage. With 75% fire res that gets reduced to 250 damage. Now if you have 5 endurance charges that's an additional 20% reduction, so you only take 200 damage. If you now invest into additional max res and extra endurance charges it gets pretty nuts. If you have 90% ele res and 10 endurance charges you take only 60 damage from a hit that deals 1000 ele damage.
Really nice collab, Like it!
Rue sound like Gary V 😂 especially when he gets excited
you editor is really good
Jung and Rue are on the bleeding edge.
i honsetly thought You just bring Rue and Lance just to make a mockup debate 🤣
That part about focusing too much on single target makes a lot of sense. I forget that you don’t need 20 mill dps to kill a rare mob.
dude this was fuckin great i listened start to finish. This patch is wild, lol everyones like whats gonna happen.
are rune enchants rare weapon only ? enchants historically worked on uniques
I enjoyed this thanks Ziz, Rue and Jung. Looking forward to next league!
Wasn't really planning to play this league but.. people talk about bleed glad, what about bleed bow then? Is it viable?
It was viable last league and is this as well. Just get aggrevated chance if you're not on glad because ensnaring arrow was changed
I have no clue what to go for as a newbie. I've only played bow builds so far. I'm completely lost lol guess I'll have to wait for some recommendations
if you are new DO NOT follow any build made by jung or ruetoo their builds tend to be extremely expensive and complicated. your best options are zizaran's builds, phox rightous fire build and whatever guides maxroll does this league.
there is also a list of leaguestarters over on the pathofexilebuilds subreddit (not to be confused with the youtubechannel that one is a scam). this list will have most builds made by reputable sources.
Having a keystone right side of the map that converts frenzy to endurance charges would enable a lot of builds.
Thats why slayer is so op.
Would you be able to recommend some budget builds? I did lightning strike on a budget last league and loved it. Still the most fun i have had in a league though i didnt like Necropolis.
Poisonous conc of bounce, locust mine, srs, holy relic
ls this league will be everything but the budget league starter
wait rue is a build creator?
almost atleast
Build creator yes. Content creator no.
Neither tbh
more like a build showcaser
more like build optimizer
Quin69 watching it: imma fucking do it *insert mad goofy.png*
I've played almost 6.3k hours and they are still playing a different game to me
Technically if they don't stop they'll always be ahead of you/me...
Ah, I see you are still in the tutorial part of the game. Like all of us.... :P
because they have at least triple that amount of your playtime, like rue has 20k hours.
@@icee7027Correct, I have 23.000 hours and there are still things even im not good at😂 Its the beauty of PoE if you ask me.
Skipped necropol8s league, loved affliction. Gonna play the sht out of kalguur. Time to listen to every single poe yt video for hype 😅