I WATCHED THE SIL MOVIE (Doctor Who's Broke Canon)

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  • @DeHumaneVestisFabrica
    @DeHumaneVestisFabrica 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    It'd be pretty funny if the Doctor couldn't speak English given that Delta and the Bannermen kind of implies he can speak Welsh. I'm now going to choose to believe this is the case.

    • @connorpurnell
      @connorpurnell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He does translate “Blaidd Drŵg” in Boom Town

  • @Kerr-Avon
    @Kerr-Avon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I liked to think the 4th Dr became the new White Guardian, then popped up as the curator later. The Watcher regeneration was different because of this. The White Guardian was merging with the 4th Doc. I conceed that this is quite a stretch though.

  • @Enshohma
    @Enshohma 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Thanks for going into detail on The Watcher: as always, an ambiguous concept or simple side character is made needlessly convoluted by extended Doctor Who media. This is why your series matters: to make some kind of sense of this crap we love so tragically much!

    • @hobbythebear5337
      @hobbythebear5337 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      But complicated stuff is fun lmao

    • @Faction.Paradox
      @Faction.Paradox 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      But......the Watcher was the Doctor all along! What more of an explanation could any question ever have?

    • @plantainsame2049
      @plantainsame2049 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You know the water can be easily explained like is just the gost of the doctor to 4 is having a weird astro Projection thang like the doctors spirit will look weird Because the doctor is a shape Changer Remember time lords come from the same place as witches and vampires the beginning of time Was wild as s***

  • @slobberytech8811
    @slobberytech8811 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The fake fact HAS to be the Ace foot fetish, right?

  • @andrewbowman4611
    @andrewbowman4611 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I watched Sil and the Devil Seeds of Arodor in November 2019, at a public screening. I was actually sat next to Philip Martin throughout, and wasn't too far away from Nabil Shaban. I met Sophie Aldred as well. At the screening, it was explained that this more a character piece rather than a plot-driven story. As such, I thought it was a success. Shaban is brilliant as always, and performances from Sophie Aldred, Christopher Ryan, Sakuntala Ramanee and Janet Henfrey were great. The work that went into it was thoroughly appreciated by all. Clearly, we weren't the only ones, as it would go on to win a Philip K. Dick award. Like most unofficial film projects, it does the best it can with what it's got, and for that it can only be applauded, frankly.

  • @rhodiumveil7072
    @rhodiumveil7072 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    6:55 I always interpreted this panel as the Doctor speaking English (as he always does) and the broken translation matrix translating it into an alien language.

    • @plantainsame2049
      @plantainsame2049 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Or hes just speaking some random language I mean doesn't missy speak French occasionally He's probably saying like one word in a different language just because he can

  • @DelightfulJay
    @DelightfulJay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I rewatched every episode of Broke Canon released so far this year and checked the wiki for each fact and I swear none of them are false
    I feel like I'm going insane
    I'm going to rewatch them all again

  • @astersworld6169
    @astersworld6169 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    7:29 actually, ya know what? I'd TOTALLY be fine with that if they reveal that the theme song is the doctors name, cause that honestly makes all the sense in the world and can probably fits into every single piece if media the doctor has been apart of, hell maybe the Sarah Jane adventures theme is HER name gallifraien as well just to tie everything in a neat little bow, that's how we end the series honestly, I'm 100% would be fine with that as an ending

    • @peterstangl8295
      @peterstangl8295 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Who's name is the Torchwood theme then? Jack?

    • @sacrificiallamb4568
      @sacrificiallamb4568 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      All the current members of Torchwood's names combined?

    • @EditedAF987
      @EditedAF987 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sacrificiallamb4568 which explains why the theme is shorter during Children of Earth.

    • @sacrificiallamb4568
      @sacrificiallamb4568 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EditedAF987 And different for Miracle Day.

    • @millievariants
      @millievariants 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That just makes the scene in Silence In The Libary a lot funnier.

  • @danbashi
    @danbashi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I really recommend that you give "Watchers" from Big Finish a listen. It's an Audio Novel written by Adric himself (Matthew Waterhouse). It's set directly before Logopolis, provides a whole new layer of context for the following story, and drip-feeds new facets of Gallifrey brand new to this story, and the Watcher itself.

  • @calvinfranklyn5499
    @calvinfranklyn5499 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As I notice this, I have, just minutes ago, finished Mindwarp.

  • @dobson.
    @dobson. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    In the Broke canon Playlist there is a "Hot Singles" video and an Attack of Titan song... do I get a prize?

  • @fordoxley2873
    @fordoxley2873 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Psha, Sam, of course something can be a programming language and a form of music at the same time! Do you think Fitz earned the nickname “code boy” among the Remote by being part of his schools computing club in the 50s? The programming language was musical-HOLYSHIT THE REMOTE WERE PROGRAMMING IN GALLIFREYAN AND FITZ CAN READ IT NOW I BET

  • @evancunningham
    @evancunningham 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When It Comes To The Doctor Not Speaking English, I Think I Can Fix That Canonically.
    I Take It More As The Translation Circuits Messing Up What He Said Since They Were Currently Being Taken Apart And Meddled With.

  • @boblowes
    @boblowes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There's nothing to say the faulty Translation Circuits of the TARDIS didn't translate the Doctor's speech from English into a completely different alien language and that's what Alice heard.

  • @alternatethirteenth5594
    @alternatethirteenth5594 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thinking about it, there's a Titan story where 11 is hanging in space and he says something which is possibly not English? Like, a caption genuinely says 'Could be an ancient Gallifreyan curse word or his lips are just fused together' and refuses to give us an answer

  • @CDoss-bc7tv
    @CDoss-bc7tv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Holy shit you watched my fan edit???? i'm honored to have gotten a little shout out in your videos

    • @SamyulDavis
      @SamyulDavis  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The whole way through, wild wild ride

    • @CDoss-bc7tv
      @CDoss-bc7tv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@SamyulDavis if you like that one you should see the plans I have for the Auton trilogy :^3c

    • @SamyulDavis
      @SamyulDavis  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@CDoss-bc7tv link me

    • @CDoss-bc7tv
      @CDoss-bc7tv 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SamyulDavis kept trying to comment it here but the link seems to be getting deleted, i made an account on twitter to send it to you

    • @kinky_afro7720
      @kinky_afro7720 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      wait its real? oml i need to see this

  • @KingofPotatoPeople
    @KingofPotatoPeople 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Somewhere I read a great theory that the Watcher is actually a deteriorating alternate fifth Doctor, who travels back in time due to the entropy seen in Logopolis, with the purpose of changing the future to save the universe so he doesn’t exist. In the original timeline Nyssa didn’t join the Doctor and that’s one of the things the Watcher corrects. As well as the end of the universe. I’ve never seen the Watcher as a version of the Davison fifth Doctor - his costume is completely different and looks like decaying Elizabethan garb rather than cricket whites. Also in Death Comes to Time the Time Lord the Minister of Chance introduces a computer virus verbally presumably using Old High Gallifreyan.

  • @jeffmoo9235
    @jeffmoo9235 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Okay Sam, its been over a year, ive watched every broken canon multiple times and dived into the eu a tad myself, and i still have no clue what the fake fact is. Can you at least give us a clue (like what month the episode its in dropped, or what characters it involves

    • @SamyulDavis
      @SamyulDavis  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Someone got it! It's in the 5-in-1 episode. 'When a Historical goes wrong'
      The woman who dies in the Ashes of Eternity is an artist, but not a historical figure.

  • @timrob12
    @timrob12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All the Watched info made me think. What if, in Legends of The Sea Devils, Chibnall brings back the watcher and that's our first glimpse at the Fourteenth Doctor?

  • @FunkyFrick
    @FunkyFrick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think it'd be cool as fuck if The Watcher made an appearance in the modern series

  • @carsonclay2965
    @carsonclay2965 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think the made up fact of series 3 is that the doctor killed millions to eradicate the disease Agent Yellow. He created an antidote called Agent Scarlet. At least, that's what the wiki says.

    • @Chubby_Bub
      @Chubby_Bub 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      From what I can find in online reference guides, that fact is indeed true. The Doctor created Agent Scarlet but it failed, so he did… something with singularities that killed six hundred million humans but cured the rest.

    • @carsonclay2965
      @carsonclay2965 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Chubby_Bub oh ok 👍

    • @SamyulDavis
      @SamyulDavis  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Small error, whereas the purposeful false fact is an entire segment that's untrue!

  • @icecreamchick45
    @icecreamchick45 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    is the fact that was incorrect that the characters mentioned in the sarah jane adventures audio adventures during the broke canon with the art were incorrect cause it was rani who was with sarah jane in that story while clyde and sky were having the side adventure with the magician and luke just straight up wasn't in the story

  • @greghawkins59
    @greghawkins59 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The fake fact is that you're a fan of the show, you just do this to punish yourself

  • @elberno4243
    @elberno4243 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Suhtek...meeting Ace, in McDonald's.... I still can't believe that one.

  • @Cyklopz007
    @Cyklopz007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is my first experience with this channel and I love it so much lol. Keep up the awesome work dude!!!!! I almost just ordered that Sil movie the other day. I think I'm gonna get it now lol.

  • @thatstarwarsnerd6641
    @thatstarwarsnerd6641 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just saying, but if he’s fixing the translation circuits, maybe they translated the English he was speaking into the gibberish we saw, because he was fixing them

  • @OkMakuTree
    @OkMakuTree 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mission to Magnus is a lost story that I wish stayed missing. Ugh

  • @Chubby_Bub
    @Chubby_Bub 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the fake fact an entire topic, like "Fact #X from the Matrix", or just something referenced under one of those topics?

  • @qqqqqqqqqqqq121212
    @qqqqqqqqqqqq121212 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I need to understand why Jeremy Corbyn has this Blu-Ray?

  • @darynvoss7883
    @darynvoss7883 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Merry Chrysalis

  • @quintencrook6068
    @quintencrook6068 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The false fact was about Heatanite in the section about the Doctor's Robot Cat.

  • @edwardreed67
    @edwardreed67 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aye my idea got in here! Thanks Davis :)))

  • @garrettjewell9335
    @garrettjewell9335 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Taking a shot at your "Fake fact". Is it that we don't know who the version of the Master is at the start of the Doctor Who movie? Because technically it's still the Beevers Master, says so in Big Finishes "Planet of Dust".
    The Beevers Master says "Neering the end of my millenia of life in torment, memories have come back to me, I know now that, that husk escaped the Eye of Harmony and went traveling to Colstar, before being pulled back into the Vortex (referring to the Eric Roberts). Then the the Eleven confirms it again by listing all the ways our favorite crispy time load has survived. Including "body snatching a Trocken, the Cheeta race, the Thuna. And a DEATHWORM MORPHANT (the worm we see the master escape as, and into the body of Eric Roberts). But all of the bodies he inhabits burn out and he always reverts back to his burt out self.
    The Master being killed at the start of the movie could very well be the Beevers Master, we just can't see his face.

  • @umbralaasimar9463
    @umbralaasimar9463 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That into has made me feel like my trust is violated

  • @kurumais
    @kurumais 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i cant even imagine what you went thru you poor thing

  • @crimsondynamo615
    @crimsondynamo615 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fiddlesticks

  • @Tbm998
    @Tbm998 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    11:24 ah, a being of culture, I see

  • @patricksweater5534
    @patricksweater5534 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I watched back through season 3 and I either think that the one about Peri saying the N-Word is false, though I understand not finding a lot of info on it, or when talking about stowaways, you mentioned a 4th doctor comic where K-9 and The Doctor have a monster on board, something I can not find anything on. Also your gran prob doesn’t have a multiverse, but God knows she deserves one.

    • @SamyulDavis
      @SamyulDavis  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unfortunately you have not found it ;)

    • @patricksweater5534
      @patricksweater5534 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SamyulDavis if the April Fools joke is that there is no fake fact I’m going to scream.

  • @CulturePhilter
    @CulturePhilter 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fake facts?! I just don’t know if I can trust you anymore Samuel.

  • @HashbrownMashup
    @HashbrownMashup 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:23 Am I being fucked with or does this fancut have a name and/or actual download link?

  • @yellowpete79
    @yellowpete79 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Old Sil looks like David Warner.

  • @TheLegacyofHitchcock
    @TheLegacyofHitchcock 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Daleks: *Cause more death and destruction than possibly any other species in history*
    4th Doctor: Do I have the right?
    Anzor: *Was a dick to the Doctor when they were children*
    6th Doctor: Yes I bloody do!

  • @saintzeroinfinity
    @saintzeroinfinity 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the the 5th doctor’s watcher is omega.

  • @ericwilder9892
    @ericwilder9892 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hurry! Run all facts through the TARDISwiki! Haha. Just kidding. Got it.

  • @DelightfulJay
    @DelightfulJay 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ok after going through all of them again, these are the ones I have narrowed it down to:
    1. The TARDIS Censors All Swearing technically it doesn't censor *all* swearing
    2. The Viryans Created All Life it's spelt Viyrans not Viryans though I imagine this was a mistake
    so, final answer: The TARDIS Censors All Swearing

    • @SamyulDavis
      @SamyulDavis  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Noble work, still not the one I'm afraid!

  • @lemhoel
    @lemhoel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How is that Corbyn picture real

    • @gsam2021
      @gsam2021 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The guy who plays Sil is a good friend of Jezza's and he gave him the DVD

  • @toast99bubbles
    @toast99bubbles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I own the Sil movie on DVD, blu ray and in novelisation form. Not sure if that's something I should admit on the internet whilst using an account linked to my real name.

  • @barrymills1999
    @barrymills1999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm not going to lie the sil movies is trash I've got the dvd and the frist thing I see is a guy dressed as bobba fett took me out of the stroy and I couldn't get back into it it's like they said dress up as si fi to the extras unless star wars and doctor who Share a universe I'm sorry I don't care about budget this is rubbish just for that reason

  • @szabolcsdudla933
    @szabolcsdudla933 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think I might have found the fake fact, but I'm not sure. If I know it correctly Peri didn't say the n-word in Shell Shock. Or is it like an actual fact with the whole "title card" thingie being wrong and not just part of it?

    • @SamyulDavis
      @SamyulDavis  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The lie is in the title card segment itself, yeah.

    • @szabolcsdudla933
      @szabolcsdudla933 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SamyulDavis Ah, OK, thanks

  • @laylamouat9862
    @laylamouat9862 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ok so I've looked back through season 3 and my best guess is that the doctor did not write a letter to the airport controller from time-flight. Like that cannot be true

    • @SamyulDavis
      @SamyulDavis  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That absolutely exists

  • @completingwho3468
    @completingwho3468 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the Marie Celeste Ashildr fact the fake one?

    • @SamyulDavis
      @SamyulDavis  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is not! The Fortunate Isles is a great story.

  • @Rexzilarate
    @Rexzilarate 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Not to be rude but, There's actually two different gallifreyan languages, high gallifreyan and circular gallifreyan.
    You seem to have acted as if they're the same thing, there not :-/
    Edit: fixed a typo

    • @SamyulDavis
      @SamyulDavis  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I establish that ancients different from the ring-based one at the start, but get them a little mixed up by the end.

  • @carealoo744
    @carealoo744 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Ewok movies of Doctor Who

  • @DelightfulJay
    @DelightfulJay 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    is your favorite color actually yellow?! is that the fake fact?!

  • @carealoo744
    @carealoo744 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    There's a sil movie?

  • @plantainsame2049
    @plantainsame2049 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    No that circle galafrayen and Jack's office Not Agent You're basically comparing modern English to middle English Language evolves

  • @ITSMeatMan
    @ITSMeatMan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I read that comic as a kid, I assumed the translation matrix was altering his normal English to some alien language not the other way around