The truly most stoic moments in history would actually be unknown 🤔 people who were so efficient at enduring hardship and pain that no one ever knew they were suffering.
That's only true if you live a life alone from others. Nothing that happens in a society is known only to one person. No matter how hard you try and contain it others can know through means outside your control.
Michael W I suppose that’s true. But yes, there are certainly some stoic salt dogs who lived alone that endured extreme hardship with ease that we don’t know about.
I didn't pass stoic test... Those stories and the way how you showed them Ryan moved me so much I was crying almost whole video. Can you belive it to stab yourself in thigh to prove to your spouse you are trustworthy? To destroy stitches on your wounds to correct sueside? To transcend your ego, forgive the enemy and say "I am part of a bigger game"? I think I have never been moved that much by examples of will power. Thank you so much for this Ryan.
I had a skydiving accident 25 years ago. I broke my sacrum in 5 pieces, both legs, herniated two spine discs and had two embolisms at the hospital that almost killed me. Recovery took 2 years and over time 24 general anesthesia surgeries. Physical therapy was pain beyond what words can describe. I knew pain before, I didn’t know this new pain even existed. It’s 25 years later and I ride advanced dressage, training my own horses from start to the highest levels. The only thing that gives meaning to life is the fight.
Amazing brother thank you for sharing this! There are times when we feel quite stressed, but we have learned a little how to control stress thanks to the stoic philosophy, in our last video we talked about that and we also shared how we have applied easy tips to reduce stress, we want to invite you to give it a look since it seems that those tips would serve you
Stoicism bring me freedom.. Every burden just lifted off my shoulder...Im glad to discover about it...i will take whatever coming with a pinch of salt from now on..
I just realized that I was always making the wrong takeaway from the killing of Julius Caesar. I'm fifty, and up until a few minutes ago, always thought Caesar's betrayal a heinous thing. The courage and sacrifice of Brutus decision to remove a devious, sociopathic autocrat only just now became apparent to me. Wow.
haha, its hard to see mate. I only knew of this perspective when i read of it in certain book, mind you! my knowledge of ides of march was nearly twenty years ago!
Because assassination is murder, it's always been debated. In Medieval and early modern England children were educated reading the history and debating the ethics of Brutus's action. William Shakespeare got just such an education in rhetoric and debate and we see him grappling with it in his rendition Julius Caesar. It's to Holiday's advantage to offer this heroic interpretation of Brutus. In another context he could easily demonize him based on the ultimate result of the murder, which was civil war. Perhaps Caesar was mad but in killing him the Republic was far from saved.
brutus was a honourable man, he'd rather follow the man who killed his father rather than helping his mother's lover who was arguably the most powerful man in the world for the sake of the republic. sadly he's proven to be just another naive fool after caesar's assasination. same with cato, the whole roman civil war could have been prevented if not for his hatred for caesar. refusing to agree even with a deal that benefit the republic the most just because caesar was slightly loosen up.
@mark mead So, betrayal is a heinous thing irrespective of who or what is being betrayed? It also seems to me that dying 'needlessly' is a matter of perspective.
I have just recently started digging in to the Stoic philosophy, but I suspect it has always been a part of me. I thought it was just to suck it up and go on anyway. I have found it is so much more and will continue my education. I was diagnosed with terminal cancer 3 and a half years ago and have gone through 53 or so chemo cycles. I will be on chemo for the rest of the life I have. I accepted from the beginning that this is my path, but to not let it be who I am. I have broken six bones riding my mountain bike since I started chemo 3 years ago and I will continue to ride. There will come a day when I can no longer ride my bike, today is not that day. I am still in awe of the simple moments of joy and beauty the world gives and I make a conscious effort to focus on and be aware of those moments. I enjoy going over to the cancer center not because of what has to be done, but because I truly like all of the nurses and support staff and it is a chance to spend time with my friends. Life is what you make it.
To Mr Holiday. I am 36 years of age and have started a journey of self development. In the modern age this journey in its infancy, has brought me to you. I am no writer, I do whoever wish to drop you a line. This information I have just consumed and in doing so have been inspired. Mr Holiday you have set me a blaze and everything that falls before me will be the fuel to help me shine brighter than ever before and make my mark for the common good. I hope you understand that I will forever be in your debt as I know that this moment has changed my life forever. David
Courage has many facets, without a doubt this teaches us to be brave and in many situations in life we have to be brave, bravery does not necessarily mean fighting or getting upset, being brave is also maintaining our values and being ourselves without letting our inner selves become turbid. In our last video we talked about that and we also shared how we have applied easy tips to reduce stress, we want to invite you to take a look since it seems that those tips would serve you.
I hate to say it but while that flu game was impressive, try Bird. He had a shattered eye socket during the start of a game and after his team was behind in points, he came back on the court. If you can imagine shooting a basketball cross eyed, that is what he experienced for the entire night as he dropped 30-something points from memory.
@@adamsandler6131 Bird played with a broken back for half his career and a broken finger for his entire career. You could really clearly see it on his retirement night.
This is my favourite channel on TH-cam. I gain so much from it. Ive been practicing stoicism all of my life without knowing it. Grew up as a young boxer and a rough street kid, to becoming a royal marines commando and boxing champion as an adult. Im now an engineer and a father of daughters but still as stoic as I was as a child. Only now I can justify my ability of appearing to be a cold, steely man, and label it stoicism. And, since learning about this school of thought I intend only to gain more knowledge about it and become a master, though having a solid foundation will congruently carry me toward it. I thought I'd share that with you all. Stay frosty, L.
What stood out for me is Marcus Aurelius’s saying about being a citizen of the world and the responsibilities that go with that. Today, as we see ignorance, selfishness, and plain stupidity coming from those who have politicized our current pandemic, I am reminded to be a good man(citizen of the world) and do my part for the greater good.
Read about the life of Cato the Younger in Plutarch (available free on line), and then make a judgment whether his act in light of his whole life was a surrender.
I know this lady who’s family owns over 40 hotels. She got married then moved to the US where she babysat all her families kids for 10 years. Then she went on to cook meals for the guests at the hotels for another 20 years. Then in her 70’s one of her sons became paralyzed and she cared for him. Thought him how to walk and feed himself all over again. True stoic.
Thank you for these 10 examples of Stoic perfection ... Maybe Jesus the Nazorean who went to the cross in silence and whose teachings has covered the earth might make your honorable mention list.....the wonderful elements of stoic teachings you share with us is excellence in this physical world. Yet, for some deep internal reason, in addition to stoicism, I need spiritual reliance, recognition of the author of eternal life in order fully live my day.
That story about Agrippinus and "having lunch on the road" reminded me of Craig Breedlove after getting out of his land speed record car when he had just done the world's fastest u-turn and car crash. He asked if anyone else was ready to go for lunch. A cool customer.
Daily Stoic, you guys are awesome! Thank you for all your great work. I got into stoicism around 8 months ago, and it has changed my life. I read your books, and use your journal and just love them. O and this video is fantastic!! Keep up the amazing work!!
I have been somewhat bowled over by Stoicism of late, so much so that I have ordered a copy of Marcus's book, "Meditations". I can't wait to read it :) EDIT: Subscribed too ;)
B.R. Ambedkar. People need to know about him, what he did for lower castes and how he kept fighting despite all the odds. He suffered a lot and was humiliated because of his Caste. I just wish people know about him, not just here in India, but in the entire world.
I don't know much about Cato; but could someone please explain how his suicide (or any suicide) is stoic? So like- the Roman Republic fell, became a dictatorship, and then Cato out of Pure "the obstacle is the way" Stoicism decides to commit suicide?? He was so upset at what happened he'd rather kill himself than to endure the suffering life or try to change things? I know for Socrates he was convicted of crimes (unjustly so perhaps) but out of a dedicated to law or to his own principle, he chooses hemlock poison instead of escape or exile; which is- debatable, but I see more stoicism in Socrates than Cato; anyone got any perspectives on this??
agreed. dont think suicide would be a parallel to epictetus. i think he would say stay true to your nature and philosophy, and if they come to punish you for it, endure it. but to kill one's self? it doesnt seem right to me
@@arturzathas499 exactly, stick to your principles, and if in life you are suffering any kind of pain, or are being punished (justly or unjustly) endure it. Get through it, let it become the way to your own reforms. Socrates was on trial for a frivolous charge of "corrupting the youth" with his philosophy, so a vote was held, he narrowly loses and is to be punished. He is allowed to suggest his own punishment and instead of requesting exile, he suggests he should pay a fine; they reject that idea, and condemn him to death to drink hemlock poision. At this point his disciples could easily have busted him out and he could escape; instead Socrates chooses to accept the Hemlock; from my understanding for 2 reasons. 1. To take a dig at Democracy (which he was no fan of) to prove "Hey look; these idiots voted my death, look how great this Democracy is" 2. Uphold the idea of living within the laws of the land. Yes the charge was unjust, cruel, absurd, but he chooses very stoically accept the punishment the laws of his society has placed against him. A jury of his peers voted for his death, he accepts that, much to the dismay of his followers. 3rd (extra reason): He was old. He was 70 at the time, that was OLD back then, he was ready to die. He had zero fear of death, he was living the stoic principle "memento mori" 24/7. Carrying out his own lawful execution, drinking the hemlock being so at peace with the idea of dying there that day, that's pretty impressive. The story goes, he wanted to die as peacefully as possible so he sent out all the women present because he didn't want emotional outbursts, then when all of his male disciples where crying and mourning (becoming emotional) he softly scolds them "hey guys, death is just part of life, be peaceable fellas.. Also, I'm carrying out society's punishment against me, yeah this sucks, but hey- learn something from this. Maybe that guy Plato can take notes of all this, and maybe my death at the hands of trumped up charges will propel you guys to maybe make some changes within society. He simultaneously uses his execution to teach both the importance of upholding the laws of society while also inspiring the idea that their society was ridiculous; his execution could be (hopefully) used as an inspiration towards reform.
@@VirtueInsightWebPage "He simultaneously uses his execution to teach both the importance of upholding the laws of society while also inspiring the idea that their society was ridiculous; " - i wouldnt say ridiculous, though. still in its infancy i would say. for if you thought that the society, despite the laws you give your life to uphold, is ridiculous, then these laws or the idea of laws altogether - which one would think of as one of the pillars of a "virtous society" - have not worked out so well now, have they?! they haveny stoped society from becoming ridiculous, or at least done their best to stray them off the road to such madness. i believe socrates recognized he was facing blind men and was talking to deaf ears. it is one of those moments 'the time will come when i will say "i told you so"'
Cato was in a war in opposition to Caesar. Cato recognized his side, fighting against tyranny, had lost. Cato made sure that anyone he could get to safety before Caesar arrived with his army he did so. He refused to run away but also due to his character could not submit to Caesar. So he decided to die rather than be subject to a tyrant. I cant help but admire him, and a great source is Plutarch's Life of Cato the Younger available free on line.
@@johnz8843 i don't know. to me cato choosing suicide would almost be like that vietnam vet in the pow camp, stockdale i think, instead of cutting his head and bashing himself to disfigurement would just cut his throat. you have this video full of people standing face to face with their adversaries, some times suffering directly at their hands, then here is one of the heros of stoicism ripping his belly open before his adversary can get him. I know many stoics through the ages see cato as a "good suicide" but i just don't see it.
Love the video. Everyone will have additions and I'm no different... I like Job's story and Sisyphus' story. Great work here. Thanks for building this.
MJ is one of the most alpha athletes in history who had an unquenchable thirst and drive to be the best at everything he did. I'd be disappointed if he didn't make the list.
Klik Day Michael Jordan may not have been a good Stoic though out his life and career, but during that game he was acting like a good Stoic no matter if he knew it or not.
Interesting vid- however it is sad that so many men and so few women were narrated as stoics . In the fight for equality which continues on hearing about the lives of women inspired by stoicism would be affirmative for the struggle. I live in Australia and there is a lot of shit going down at the moment about the way women are treated in the House of Parliament , in the workplace and in the home. Stoicism is a fuel needed to continue this struggle .
Great video, it rlly left me with goosebumps all over. However, if there was one person who I think rlly deserves to be in this list then it has to be the immortal Admiral Yi Sun Shin
OK, you got me -- hook, line and sinker. I subscribed to your email and I'm buying your audio book on courage. Stoicism is speaking to my soul right now.
I am conflicted. My partner at work got fired because he was behind in schedule. I was hired for him as a helping hand. They let me stay and continue with the new replacement. Should I quit my job for solidarity and take part in his failure? He was a good man.
7:05 James Stockdale, a true hero for Americans. Not so much for the innocents in Vietnam who even didn't know about what the hell was going on while their villages got purple rained.
anyone else not feel up to these HUGE examples of courage? sometimes I would like to hear focus on NORMAL everyday people showing courage. its overwhelming to focus on the most extreme examples,
The truly most stoic moments in history would actually be unknown 🤔 people who were so efficient at enduring hardship and pain that no one ever knew they were suffering.
That's only true if you live a life alone from others. Nothing that happens in a society is known only to one person. No matter how hard you try and contain it others can know through means outside your control.
Serpentine Fire physical ailments they suppressed/ disguised and eventually succumb to, way before autopsies were so precise.
Michael W I suppose that’s true. But yes, there are certainly some stoic salt dogs who lived alone that endured extreme hardship with ease that we don’t know about.
Serpentine Fire being stoic doesn’t mean you don’t feel pain, it means you have a great ability to deal with pain.
Chadwick Boseman comes to mind... Rest in peace.
" Most Men can endure adversity , but to truly test a Man , give him power" -A Lincoln
Guess Lincoln failed that test.
@@baw5xc333 so true🤣
“If you want to test a man’s character, give him power” - Abraham Lincoln
He failed that test when he suspended the constitution and set about the wholesale slaughter of his countrymen.
Fabulous quote...best I've seen in some time 🔥
I didn't pass stoic test... Those stories and the way how you showed them Ryan moved me so much I was crying almost whole video. Can you belive it to stab yourself in thigh to prove to your spouse you are trustworthy? To destroy stitches on your wounds to correct sueside? To transcend your ego, forgive the enemy and say "I am part of a bigger game"? I think I have never been moved that much by examples of will power. Thank you so much for this Ryan.
I had a skydiving accident 25 years ago. I broke my sacrum in 5 pieces, both legs, herniated two spine discs and had two embolisms at the hospital that almost killed me. Recovery took 2 years and over time 24 general anesthesia surgeries. Physical therapy was pain beyond what words can describe. I knew pain before, I didn’t know this new pain even existed. It’s 25 years later and I ride advanced dressage, training my own horses from start to the highest levels. The only thing that gives meaning to life is the fight.
Respect
Amazing
🔥🔥
Wow
@Frank Gruden Good for you Frank!
"A pandemic can kill you, but it only harms you if it ruins your character"
Dude was Hardcore. This is worthy of Respect.
Amazing brother thank you for sharing this! There are times when we feel quite stressed, but we have learned a little how to control stress thanks to the stoic philosophy, in our last video we talked about that and we also shared how we have applied easy tips to reduce stress, we want to invite you to give it a look since it seems that those tips would serve you
True, but don't use that as an excuse not to be responsible...wear a mask and protect others.
@@markmerzweiler909 I supposed that is the point. Protecting others is part of a good character
@@felipebrunetta2106 I totally concur.
Makes me think to "Don’t explain your philosophy. Embody it." -Epictetus
there are ppl who just read out quotes. And then there are ppl like Ryan who puts power, and meaning into every word
Stoic mindest is needed in society.
"Whoever tries to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life will preserve it."
Stoicism bring me freedom.. Every burden just lifted off my shoulder...Im glad to discover about it...i will take whatever coming with a pinch of salt from now on..
I just realized that I was always making the wrong takeaway from the killing of Julius Caesar. I'm fifty, and up until a few minutes ago, always thought Caesar's betrayal a heinous thing. The courage and sacrifice of Brutus decision to remove a devious, sociopathic autocrat only just now became apparent to me. Wow.
haha, its hard to see mate. I only knew of this perspective when i read of it in certain book, mind you! my knowledge of ides of march was nearly twenty years ago!
Because assassination is murder, it's always been debated. In Medieval and early modern England children were educated reading the history and debating the ethics of Brutus's action. William Shakespeare got just such an education in rhetoric and debate and we see him grappling with it in his rendition Julius Caesar. It's to Holiday's advantage to offer this heroic interpretation of Brutus. In another context he could easily demonize him based on the ultimate result of the murder, which was civil war. Perhaps Caesar was mad but in killing him the Republic was far from saved.
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brutus was a honourable man, he'd rather follow the man who killed his father rather than helping his mother's lover who was arguably the most powerful man in the world for the sake of the republic. sadly he's proven to be just another naive fool after caesar's assasination. same with cato, the whole roman civil war could have been prevented if not for his hatred for caesar. refusing to agree even with a deal that benefit the republic the most just because caesar was slightly loosen up.
@mark mead So, betrayal is a heinous thing irrespective of who or what is being betrayed? It also seems to me that dying 'needlessly' is a matter of perspective.
I have just recently started digging in to the Stoic philosophy, but I suspect it has always been a part of me. I thought it was just to suck it up and go on anyway. I have found it is so much more and will continue my education. I was diagnosed with terminal cancer 3 and a half years ago and have gone through 53 or so chemo cycles. I will be on chemo for the rest of the life I have. I accepted from the beginning that this is my path, but to not let it be who I am. I have broken six bones riding my mountain bike since I started chemo 3 years ago and I will continue to ride. There will come a day when I can no longer ride my bike, today is not that day. I am still in awe of the simple moments of joy and beauty the world gives and I make a conscious effort to focus on and be aware of those moments. I enjoy going over to the cancer center not because of what has to be done, but because I truly like all of the nurses and support staff and it is a chance to spend time with my friends. Life is what you make it.
This seems like something my English teacher would show the class...
You've got a great English teacher then.
My English teachers loved to shove Shakespeare down our throats. Consider yourself lucky
Lucky you
To Mr Holiday. I am 36 years of age and have started a journey of self development. In the modern age this journey in its infancy, has brought me to you. I am no writer, I do whoever wish to drop you a line. This information I have just consumed and in doing so have been inspired. Mr Holiday you have set me a blaze and everything that falls before me will be the fuel to help me shine brighter than ever before and make my mark for the common good. I hope you understand that I will forever be in your debt as I know that this moment has changed my life forever. David
This is great list. I love the call to Courage - we often don’t see how commonly it is over looked
Courage has many facets, without a doubt this teaches us to be brave and in many situations in life we have to be brave, bravery does not necessarily mean fighting or getting upset, being brave is also maintaining our values and being ourselves without letting our inner selves become turbid. In our last video we talked about that and we also shared how we have applied easy tips to reduce stress, we want to invite you to take a look since it seems that those tips would serve you.
Marcus, my mentor...
I hate to say it but while that flu game was impressive, try Bird. He had a shattered eye socket during the start of a game and after his team was behind in points, he came back on the court. If you can imagine shooting a basketball cross eyed, that is what he experienced for the entire night as he dropped 30-something points from memory.
If you shoot a basketball every day it’s just muscle memory as long as you know where you are you don’t need depth perception
@@KK-bt6nc Bloody hard to aim when you see two hoops 😂😂
Kobe Bryant played with a broken finger.
@@adamsandler6131 Bird played with a broken back for half his career and a broken finger for his entire career.
You could really clearly see it on his retirement night.
Best video till date
"Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live."
When you finally realize your dead, the peace that overcomes you is surreal. Then when you live you can never forget that moment.
Absolutely amazing 👏
Thank you for your work. It is inspiring to me and useful. Thank you.
I'm a big follower of stoicism
Yet it is only for those with a very strong mentality.
Awesome! Thank for your work
This so powerful and EPIC.
Tremendous thank you!
Thanks for this video Ryan, a truly inspirational mindset and attitude we can all incorporate into our everyday lives
This made me cry, I love it.
This is the best video I have ever seen. Thank you so so much.
Standing Applause. Bravado! We need Stoic Leaders NOW
We don't need leaders, that is why mankind is enslaved. People gave up their freedom to be saved by a leader.
start yourself, dont think on others
Fantastic job brother!
This is my favourite channel on TH-cam. I gain so much from it.
Ive been practicing stoicism all of my life without knowing it. Grew up as a young boxer and a rough street kid, to becoming a royal marines commando and boxing champion as an adult. Im now an engineer and a father of daughters but still as stoic as I was as a child. Only now I can justify my ability of appearing to be a cold, steely man, and label it stoicism. And, since learning about this school of thought I intend only to gain more knowledge about it and become a master, though having a solid foundation will congruently carry me toward it. I thought I'd share that with you all.
Stay frosty, L.
LOVE LOVE YOU!
Love you too ♥️
That was amazing! Stories give us so much strength! Thank you!
This is SUCH a great video. I'm so inspired. Also let me say that the diversity in this video is so appreciated. Thanks
thank you
What stood out for me is Marcus Aurelius’s saying about being a citizen of the world and the responsibilities that go with that. Today, as we see ignorance, selfishness, and plain stupidity coming from those who have politicized our current pandemic, I am reminded to be a good man(citizen of the world) and do my part for the greater good.
Taking one's life is not an act of stoicism, it's a declaration of surrender.
A stoic may change strategy, but never gives up.
Read about the life of Cato the Younger in Plutarch (available free on line), and then make a judgment whether his act in light of his whole life was a surrender.
I know this lady who’s family owns over 40 hotels. She got married then moved to the US where she babysat all her families kids for 10 years. Then she went on to cook meals for the guests at the hotels for another 20 years. Then in her 70’s one of her sons became paralyzed and she cared for him. Thought him how to walk and feed himself all over again. True stoic.
Thanks so much 🙏🏿🙏🏿
thank you - Daily stoic - i needed to hear this
brilliant. a man who publishes this, must be a great man. we need more of us, who envision heroic ideals. godspeed to you.
Thanks.
Thank you for these 10 examples of Stoic perfection ... Maybe Jesus the Nazorean who went to the cross in silence and whose teachings has covered the earth might make your honorable mention list.....the wonderful elements of stoic teachings you share with us is excellence in this physical world. Yet, for some deep internal reason, in addition to stoicism, I need spiritual reliance, recognition of the author of eternal life in order fully live my day.
Fantastic comment, observation, and recognition of Jesus, LORD of all, and total bad ass
That story about Agrippinus and "having lunch on the road" reminded me of Craig Breedlove after getting out of his land speed record car when he had just done the world's fastest u-turn and car crash. He asked if anyone else was ready to go for lunch. A cool customer.
The bit about Marcus Aurelius got me, great work!
This video is great
This video is beautiful. Thank You
Thank you for this video. It is inspirational, indeed. Peace.
Great video
The variety in these stories is great!!!
Just now learning about stoicism. Some of this was hard to listen to to be honest, but maybe I just need time to reshape my mind.
We need more of this in the world
Daily Stoic, you guys are awesome! Thank you for all your great work. I got into stoicism around 8 months ago, and it has changed my life. I read your books, and use your journal and just love them. O and this video is fantastic!! Keep up the amazing work!!
I have been somewhat bowled over by Stoicism of late, so much so that I have ordered a copy of Marcus's book, "Meditations". I can't wait to read it :) EDIT: Subscribed too ;)
B.R. Ambedkar. People need to know about him, what he did for lower castes and how he kept fighting despite all the odds. He suffered a lot and was humiliated because of his Caste. I just wish people know about him, not just here in India, but in the entire world.
Gana check him out! half the people weren’t all that stoic lol
David Goggins should be on this list.... Without a doubt he is the #1 Modern Stoic and up there with the likes of Marcus Aurelius and Teddy Roosevelt.
He's an inspiration. Although I still can't get out of bed because I'm a lazy prik!
Fantastic, Ryan! Practical philosophy right here, thank you very much for your well-collected insights!
Powerful video one of my favourite channels
fantastic video man, really much much better than I was expecting, thank you
Beautiful
Desmond Doss. That dude was amazing.
great video, well done
The narration is terrific.
I don't know much about Cato; but could someone please explain how his suicide (or any suicide) is stoic?
So like- the Roman Republic fell, became a dictatorship, and then Cato out of Pure "the obstacle is the way" Stoicism decides to commit suicide?? He was so upset at what happened he'd rather kill himself than to endure the suffering life or try to change things?
I know for Socrates he was convicted of crimes (unjustly so perhaps) but out of a dedicated to law or to his own principle, he chooses hemlock poison instead of escape or exile; which is- debatable, but I see more stoicism in Socrates than Cato; anyone got any perspectives on this??
agreed. dont think suicide would be a parallel to epictetus. i think he would say stay true to your nature and philosophy, and if they come to punish you for it, endure it. but to kill one's self? it doesnt seem right to me
@@arturzathas499 exactly, stick to your principles, and if in life you are suffering any kind of pain, or are being punished (justly or unjustly) endure it. Get through it, let it become the way to your own reforms. Socrates was on trial for a frivolous charge of "corrupting the youth" with his philosophy, so a vote was held, he narrowly loses and is to be punished. He is allowed to suggest his own punishment and instead of requesting exile, he suggests he should pay a fine; they reject that idea, and condemn him to death to drink hemlock poision. At this point his disciples could easily have busted him out and he could escape; instead Socrates chooses to accept the Hemlock; from my understanding for 2 reasons.
1. To take a dig at Democracy (which he was no fan of) to prove "Hey look; these idiots voted my death, look how great this Democracy is"
2. Uphold the idea of living within the laws of the land. Yes the charge was unjust, cruel, absurd, but he chooses very stoically accept the punishment the laws of his society has placed against him. A jury of his peers voted for his death, he accepts that, much to the dismay of his followers.
3rd (extra reason): He was old. He was 70 at the time, that was OLD back then, he was ready to die. He had zero fear of death, he was living the stoic principle "memento mori" 24/7. Carrying out his own lawful execution, drinking the hemlock being so at peace with the idea of dying there that day, that's pretty impressive. The story goes, he wanted to die as peacefully as possible so he sent out all the women present because he didn't want emotional outbursts, then when all of his male disciples where crying and mourning (becoming emotional) he softly scolds them "hey guys, death is just part of life, be peaceable fellas.. Also, I'm carrying out society's punishment against me, yeah this sucks, but hey- learn something from this. Maybe that guy Plato can take notes of all this, and maybe my death at the hands of trumped up charges will propel you guys to maybe make some changes within society.
He simultaneously uses his execution to teach both the importance of upholding the laws of society while also inspiring the idea that their society was ridiculous; his execution could be (hopefully) used as an inspiration towards reform.
@@VirtueInsightWebPage "He simultaneously uses his execution to teach both the importance of upholding the laws of society while also inspiring the idea that their society was ridiculous; " - i wouldnt say ridiculous, though. still in its infancy i would say.
for if you thought that the society, despite the laws you give your life to uphold, is ridiculous, then these laws or the idea of laws altogether - which one would think of as one of the pillars of a "virtous society" - have not worked out so well now, have they?! they haveny stoped society from becoming ridiculous, or at least done their best to stray them off the road to such madness. i believe socrates recognized he was facing blind men and was talking to deaf ears.
it is one of those moments 'the time will come when i will say "i told you so"'
Cato was in a war in opposition to Caesar. Cato recognized his side, fighting against tyranny, had lost. Cato made sure that anyone he could get to safety before Caesar arrived with his army he did so. He refused to run away but also due to his character could not submit to Caesar. So he decided to die rather than be subject to a tyrant. I cant help but admire him, and a great source is Plutarch's Life of Cato the Younger available free on line.
@@johnz8843 i don't know. to me cato choosing suicide would almost be like that vietnam vet in the pow camp, stockdale i think, instead of cutting his head and bashing himself to disfigurement would just cut his throat. you have this video full of people standing face to face with their adversaries, some times suffering directly at their hands, then here is one of the heros of stoicism ripping his belly open before his adversary can get him. I know many stoics through the ages see cato as a "good suicide" but i just don't see it.
amazing
I aspire too.
Wow. This is beautiful. A gift for times like these.
Love the video. Everyone will have additions and I'm no different... I like Job's story and Sisyphus' story. Great work here. Thanks for building this.
Wasn't Sisyphos just a liar and a deciever?
For sure adversity can mold the person into higher achievers. I am my own hero....
"Give me a uniform and a number on my back and I'll give you the guts" - Jackie Robinson.
My man really put MJ on here lmao
@Klik Day Who's?
Athletes are great stoics, and MJ is a great athlete
MJ is one of the most alpha athletes in history who had an unquenchable thirst and drive to be the best at everything he did. I'd be disappointed if he didn't make the list.
Klik Day ???
Klik Day Michael Jordan may not have been a good Stoic though out his life and career, but during that game he was acting like a good Stoic no matter if he knew it or not.
Great vid. Thank you I must read more & learn.
"Light mayo is not real mayo" -Plato
Incredible.
I love this channel.
Liked and subscribed. Thank you!!
awsome video
Thank you Ryan Holiday really appreciate it...
Carlos santana " this guitar is gonna talk to me...u will see
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This video packed a punch, wow
Interesting vid- however it is sad that so many men and so few women were narrated as stoics . In the fight for equality which continues on hearing about the lives of women inspired by stoicism would be affirmative for the struggle. I live in Australia and there is a lot of shit going down at the moment about the way women are treated in the House of Parliament , in the workplace and in the home. Stoicism is a fuel needed to continue this struggle .
See what is going on in Belarus now - people are living stoicism, wheather they know it or not
Solidarity
Definitely. Let's hope it dosent become violent
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
@@simrinkhan1150 Unsanctioned protests against the government, combined under the flag of nazi-collaborators
its all abt human consciousness rising
Great video, it rlly left me with goosebumps all over. However, if there was one person who I think rlly deserves to be in this list then it has to be the immortal Admiral Yi Sun Shin
I'm still shook that there was a ruler with actual brains
I am reminded of Rob Hall, an Everest expedition leader who in 1996 knowingly stayed in the death zone to try to save a fellow climber.
#1 In my book is, Jesus Christ! Amen!
There were many early saints and martyrs who embody these stoic philosophies as well. It would be nice to see them here too
Thomas a Becket, for one.
OK, you got me -- hook, line and sinker. I subscribed to your email and I'm buying your audio book on courage. Stoicism is speaking to my soul right now.
*Being a stoic definitely will benefit you in the long run, but keep on gaining perspectives and see what works best for u* 🙏
I am conflicted. My partner at work got fired because he was behind in schedule. I was hired for him as a helping hand. They let me stay and continue with the new replacement. Should I quit my job for solidarity and take part in his failure? He was a good man.
Choose the decision that will make you improve more, grow more... But in your situation you will need more time to decide.
Sunday courage, let’s keep going, thank you Ryan
When my mom was little this old man told her "I cried because I had no shoes until I met a man who had no feet."
That's an old Army saying
"I was sad because I had no boots
Then I met a man who had no feet"
"So I bashed his head in and took his boots"
To listen stoïcly this, is to have many chances to do something else, but to watch it till the end. I am happy to get it at 40. Not 85.
7:05 James Stockdale, a true hero for Americans. Not so much for the innocents in Vietnam who even didn't know about what the hell was going on while their villages got purple rained.
anyone else not feel up to these HUGE examples of courage? sometimes I would like to hear focus on NORMAL everyday people showing courage. its overwhelming to focus on the most extreme examples,
Brilliant, well done
Thanks Again!
No wonder MJ was pissed at Scotty's migraine.