I love how the whole movie, Hertzfeld has been bullied and taunted by Steve, yet despite still being a victim of Steve, he hit him with a blow so hard that all the toughness through the years couldn’t equal the emotional damage he put Steve in…
"Why do you want people to dislike you?" "I don't want people to dislike me, I'm indifferent to whether they dislike me." "Since it doesn't matter, I always have." "Really? I've always liked you a lot. That's too bad."
That's mainly because the actors are allowed to breathe in between their lines for once. Sorkin usually pushes his characters to talk way too fast to be that eloquent.
@@JimmyStelleragreed. I prefer writing like this and similar to the opening of Charlie Wilson’s War with Hoffman and Slattery. Little is said, so much is meant. Let the actors work.
This is the actual climax of the movie. Andy has made it. He’s worth millions (not nearly as rich as Jobs but more than enough for a person). Steve cannot do anything ever again to him and Andy knows it.
@@dool1002 I guess…? I think the fact Andy is an amazing programmer and all shows he’d have done well anywhere. He also had made the money himself by this point, jobs didn’t “own” him at all anymore. That’s the point of the scene and my comment. Andy is not beholden to jobs.
@Morphling92 I guess... It's just a movie and this scene probably never played out in real life. But in real life Jobs took Apple to a whole new level without Andy and the previous team, which is actually disturbing. (Shows Who was actually in it for the company and its products and those in it for themselves...)
@@dool1002 it was the juxtaposition of the human needs and the world's wants. The more he played into the latter the less he could relate to the former.
@darrenthetuber743 do you use digital apps, a smartphone, digital payment, listen to online music, bank online to make bill payments, etc... today those simply have become the standard (hence needs). It's a bit like street light traffic controllers (replaced by automated street lights) or bike messengers (replaced by telephone). What Apple and other tech companies (ie. Chips, battery, etc) have turned something we never thought we needed, into something we can't live without
I know there has been some discussion about Fassbender not resembling Jobs physically, but if there is one scene where he does somewhat, it is this one.
Michael Fassbender gets plenty of acclaim for his mind blowing performance in this, but Michael Stuhlbarg deserves just as much praise for how well he played Andy in this. Insane acting. His range is insane, completely opposite of a character as Arnold Rothstein in Boardwalk Empire.
This discussion between Steve Jobs and Andy Hertzfeld regarding who is a better father figure to Lisa as well as Lisa seeing a therapist on Herzfeld's recommendation reminds me of a certain fanfic in which a girl runs away from home after blowing up at her father and accusing him of emotionally neglecting her and not inquiring that she was being bullied at school. She would later send him an email mentioning that she considered her English teacher, one of the very few people at school that supported her, to be a better father figure to her. It is also further revealed that following a traumatizing bullying incident, that teacher had suggested to the girl's father that she might need therapy, even recommending a therapist to him, only for the father to ignore the advice and instead make her stay at his workplace after school, where her inner problems gradually boiled over.
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I love how the whole movie, Hertzfeld has been bullied and taunted by Steve, yet despite still being a victim of Steve, he hit him with a blow so hard that all the toughness through the years couldn’t equal the emotional damage he put Steve in…
I wonder if Sherlock Holmes would feel the same if Dr. John Watson did a similar thing to him?
o.o you have a pretty shitty family dynamic in your mind if you think it was ok.
3:07 “There’s no reason in the world she should be nice.” As stinging a knockout delivery as ever on screen.
"Why do you want people to dislike you?"
"I don't want people to dislike me, I'm indifferent to whether they dislike me."
"Since it doesn't matter, I always have."
"Really? I've always liked you a lot. That's too bad."
That's something Professor Henry Higgins would have said as well.
I’ve always **liked** you
Sucks that I resonate a bit with Steve because I'm a asshole
Finally! I’ve been looking for this scene for ages. Beautiful scene. The power in Sorkin’s writing skills is Unmeasurable.
That's mainly because the actors are allowed to breathe in between their lines for once. Sorkin usually pushes his characters to talk way too fast to be that eloquent.
you could ya know... just have watched the movie again.
@@JimmyStelleragreed. I prefer writing like this and similar to the opening of Charlie Wilson’s War with Hoffman and Slattery. Little is said, so much is meant. Let the actors work.
Even with all the knockout points he made against Steve, I still think Andy went too easy on him.
Easily my favorite scene in the movie. So much emotion. Beautiful dialogue. Haunting score.
“Wtf did you just say to me??” Is the perfect reaction 😂
If you're the delusional dickhole in the situation, yes. The perfect reaction.
I like it when he says "What the F*** did you just say to me".
This is the actual climax of the movie.
Andy has made it. He’s worth millions (not nearly as rich as Jobs but more than enough for a person). Steve cannot do anything ever again to him and Andy knows it.
Jobs made Andy and made him wealthy in the process. Without him Andy would be a nobody.
@@dool1002 I guess…? I think the fact Andy is an amazing programmer and all shows he’d have done well anywhere.
He also had made the money himself by this point, jobs didn’t “own” him at all anymore. That’s the point of the scene and my comment. Andy is not beholden to jobs.
@Morphling92 I guess...
It's just a movie and this scene probably never played out in real life.
But in real life Jobs took Apple to a whole new level without Andy and the previous team, which is actually disturbing. (Shows Who was actually in it for the company and its products and those in it for themselves...)
@@dool1002 it was the juxtaposition of the human needs and the world's wants. The more he played into the latter the less he could relate to the former.
@darrenthetuber743 do you use digital apps, a smartphone, digital payment, listen to online music, bank online to make bill payments, etc... today those simply have become the standard (hence needs). It's a bit like street light traffic controllers (replaced by automated street lights) or bike messengers (replaced by telephone). What Apple and other tech companies (ie. Chips, battery, etc) have turned something we never thought we needed, into something we can't live without
Can’t watch this scene all the way through without feeling it hard. Such a well done movie.
So proud of Andy here.
Jobs deserved every inch of the verbal a$$-whooping!
Woz and Hertzfeld were the only two people who could tell Jobs he was wrong to his face.
What about Joanna Hoffman? She was just chewing out Jobs for his poor treatment of Lisa.
This scenes is just perfect…
I know there has been some discussion about Fassbender not resembling Jobs physically, but if there is one scene where he does somewhat, it is this one.
My favourite scene in the movie!
Arnold Rothstein meets Magneto.
Thank you for this. 😆
Love this scene. One of the best
Thanks for uploading this.
Fassbender acts his way to showing us the soul of Steve Jobs. No cheap tricks or prosthetics like Bradly Cooper in Maestro
Michael Fassbender gets plenty of acclaim for his mind blowing performance in this, but Michael Stuhlbarg deserves just as much praise for how well he played Andy in this. Insane acting. His range is insane, completely opposite of a character as Arnold Rothstein in Boardwalk Empire.
This discussion between Steve Jobs and Andy Hertzfeld regarding who is a better father figure to Lisa as well as Lisa seeing a therapist on Herzfeld's recommendation reminds me of a certain fanfic in which a girl runs away from home after blowing up at her father and accusing him of emotionally neglecting her and not inquiring that she was being bullied at school. She would later send him an email mentioning that she considered her English teacher, one of the very few people at school that supported her, to be a better father figure to her. It is also further revealed that following a traumatizing bullying incident, that teacher had suggested to the girl's father that she might need therapy, even recommending a therapist to him, only for the father to ignore the advice and instead make her stay at his workplace after school, where her inner problems gradually boiled over.
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This movie portrays him as more of a dick than the uplifting 2013 movie
Indeed. And I'm glad. Because this is how Jobs was.
Yeah - just listened to the Walter issacson book, and he for sure was even more of a dick haha
Steve Jobs, one of the most overated person in history