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Wow definitely didnt know there was optimization possible with hook! All i heard about her was that she was pretty straight forward destro with big multipliers. Lis didnt disappoint as expected!❤
Who knew an old mechanic like advancing her own Turn by 20% (Alongside Wind Set) would help Hook on a 3 Harmony Setting. Sometimes I think being Destruction and some of her Traces don't really help Hook that much, but that's the thing with 1.0 DPS. Some are a hit or miss. If only the burn for the extra DMG% wasn't so stingy because of the increase of Enemy RES, lol.
Very good for FUA characters especially those with 3-turn ULT rotation with the help of Sunday. If not an FUA character, they must have a reliable way to get 3-turn ULT w/o needing Sunday's help.
Asking a 0 cycler is cheating, they're the most if not the only ones affected. When you look at it from the average player perspective, neither of those exist which is quite the paradoxical achievement from the HSR team
Hello, the run was incredibly impressive. I wanted to ask though would this strategy still work with Bronya's E2 or would it ruin the speed tuning by making Sunday act before the carry? If you know of any workarounds to this prospective issue, please let me know. Thank you.
@@LisaraScarlet I see. Thank you. If you don't mind, I'd also like to ask if there are any variations of this strategy with Bronya's E2. I've tried looking in the past with no luck although I have seen versions with less intense speed tuning by foregoing Eagle and Vonwacq. They of course warrant fewer turns, but could that version potentially support the speed variance created by E2 Bronya seeing as how there's no other action manipulations in play? Maybe by lowering Sunday's initial speed? I would greatly appreciate any insights regarding this matter.
Bronya advance Sunday > Bronya get energy > Sunday advance DPS > Sunday get energy. People also advance Robin using Bronya so she can enter her ult stat earlier.
@@KittyWhite38yes but sunday wouldnt. Also Sunday is SP positive if you have his light cone so not only are you getting more energy you are also generating slightly more SP
4:23 why Ult with Sunday before his turn begins? Doesn't that needlessly eat away at it's duration when compared to casting it in the middle of his turn?
Lisara I have a Question, I gave to my Bronya her E2, but know I think that maybe was a mistake, because with that she make Sunday faster than the dps? How can I resolve this mess? Making Sunday slower?
1. Give up on using Eagle set and go for max damage set w/o any speed. You won't be able to do the triple carry actions though. or 2. Always use Bronya's skill on the carry. Calculate the exact speed needed so your carry's final speed is 1 speed higher than Sunday. This would still let you get 3 carry actions per rotation but Sunday cycles his ULT slow.
I mean the powercreep is definitely real. The only reason this is even possible is because of the 3 5-star supports being used to buff/advance Hook on a 0-cycler's team.
@@bloodthirst2ez "the only reason this is even possible" [describes someone playing the game properly]. If a 4 star has the numbers to 0 cycle what manner of 🤡will keep saying powercreep is real? when you have 5 whole cycles to clear the content? in a setup 5 stars also use? please think further
people cry about powercreep when even hook can 0 cycle smh... what is wrong with hp inflation anyway? rather than 0-cycling, now you'll 1 cycle... oh noes now instead of sustainless, you'll need actual defense since you can't just twotap the enemy/permabreak them before engaging with them. hp inflation is only going to be a problem, when a normal synergistic team takes more than 5 cycles per side.
casuals crying about powercreep aren't 0-1 cycling with hooks lmao, they barely clear (or even fail to clear) with their halfassed acherons and fireflies piloted worse than auto the reason why the hp bloat/powercreep is a "problem" is because it forces to interact with or plan around the mechanics, but no one wants to admit that they're bad at playing a "2 button game" so they just blame other factors to cope
@sethl1475 yep, any decent team will clear in 1-2 cycles, why do you care if it takes 2-3 now? As a xueyi main waiting for fugue to get back to 0-1 cycling i have not noticed dps powercreep.
who's 0 cycling? 1% of the players? it requires heavily invested supports and playstyle drastically different from the way the game wants you to play it (hoyo hates your 0 cycle clears). also your "from 0 it now is 1 and you'll need to add a sustain" is funny, because if you remove the supports carrying the clear bye bye cycles
@@user-mg4rc1qw6w "if you remove the supports bye bye cycles" wait... do you mean my 4 dps comp isn't working???? no way omg zoinkers!!!... a good team clears fast. 0 cycling is that same team with above average relics and the usual mix of DDD+wind set tryhardy strats. if your fei xiao/FF/Acheron/ takes more than 1-2 cycles to clear, it's skill issue. i've been clearing in less than 2 without any 5* cones on teams like SB guinaifen or Xueyi (and with fugue coming it's gonna be stronker) if the average joe can't do 5-5 cycles they're just not building properly.
@@raulmaltrain6893 I'm pointing out that it's not "hp inflation is from 0 to 1. also now add a sustain." you are sacrificing third support (very valuable) for survivability and that will decrease your dps by a lot. acheron/fei/firefly clear in 1-2 cycles in premium regular teams. but imagine this, majority of the players can't afford pulling every new broken dps and their supports. and to use lower rarity or outdated dps it requires way more vertical investing and very good relics
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Lisara in 2026: Wind Dan Heng 0-cycle MoC 14 acting 26 times in the second half
"Lisara Scarletdream 0-cycled with Hook in a cave! With a box of scraps!"
"Well I'm not Lisara Scarletdream"
Look kind weird but it reminds me of 1.0 when i had to use Hook to fight Svarog, so nostalgic. Good job! I really like this video
since triple Dance has hook in artwork is lore accurate since she needs 3 harmony dancing for her
Never expected to see a 0 cycle run with hook 😮
you have to cook something up with the other 4 stars as well now
Damn.
@@LisaraScarletyes yes yes
arlan next!!!!
@@mekimleooArlan will be one hell of a character, I'd love to see it
RIP Hook. You shall never be forgotten.
Hook acted 13 times in the second half. She could act more times if it wasnt by Svarog's action delay. Thats quite impressive to say the least
Wow definitely didnt know there was optimization possible with hook! All i heard about her was that she was pretty straight forward destro with big multipliers. Lis didnt disappoint as expected!❤
Peak 0 cycle showcase
this is the thing i didnt think of but made my day
looking forward to amphoreus and more of your amazing recipies
Pitch Dark Hook the Great has arrived! 🧡💛💥
Lore accurate Pitch Dark Hook The Great!
Good showcase Lisara your videos never fails to amuse me🙏🏻
ALL HEIL PITCH DARK HOOK THE GREAT 🗣🔥🔥🔥
Clutch with Hook Ult activating Robin ult.
1% hp ult finisher.
Hook ult at it's Finest.
Who knew an old mechanic like advancing her own Turn by 20% (Alongside Wind Set) would help Hook on a 3 Harmony Setting.
Sometimes I think being Destruction and some of her Traces don't really help Hook that much, but that's the thing with 1.0 DPS. Some are a hit or miss. If only the burn for the extra DMG% wasn't so stingy because of the increase of Enemy RES, lol.
the klee theme... this is so peak
this is the only time you’ll see Sunday’s ultimate halo on a short character on this channel 😭😭 she’s so cute with it omg
This strategy is so good! Hypothetically, could it work on any dps character? Or most? Since hook made it work.
Very good for FUA characters especially those with 3-turn ULT rotation with the help of Sunday. If not an FUA character, they must have a reliable way to get 3-turn ULT w/o needing Sunday's help.
@@LisaraScarletso.... Welt?
Watching this before fugue release ✨
What is your opinion on hp inflation / powercreep?
Even as someone who can basically get all characters and their signatures, I don't like it at all.
Doesn't matter since we get modifiers for damage
Asking a 0 cycler is cheating, they're the most if not the only ones affected. When you look at it from the average player perspective, neither of those exist which is quite the paradoxical achievement from the HSR team
I hate HP inflation
If at least they buffed units Multipliers for it to be manageable
Change your name to Goatsara!!! I will hear no complaints!!! Seriously though awesome showcase.
This is the greatest yet.
You could say we are *Hook*ed on your video's .
Nice one.
very cute!🤗
Strongest Hook punch in HSR 🤣
Hello, the run was incredibly impressive. I wanted to ask though would this strategy still work with Bronya's E2 or would it ruin the speed tuning by making Sunday act before the carry? If you know of any workarounds to this prospective issue, please let me know. Thank you.
It will ruin the speed tuning. The only workaround is the advance Hook directly with Bronya.
@@LisaraScarlet I see. Thank you.
If you don't mind, I'd also like to ask if there are any variations of this strategy with Bronya's E2. I've tried looking in the past with no luck although I have seen versions with less intense speed tuning by foregoing Eagle and Vonwacq. They of course warrant fewer turns, but could that version potentially support the speed variance created by E2 Bronya seeing as how there's no other action manipulations in play? Maybe by lowering Sunday's initial speed? I would greatly appreciate any insights regarding this matter.
Hook > Firefly
Firefly always catching strays💀
@@LisaraScarlet Rent free. Rent free. 😂
Fireflop dead in the swarm disaster.
It feels like even after 2 years and even when the game dies Firefly will be the only memorable character
If only they didn't change Firefly kit to superbreak only, I feel like she would be an amazing hypercarry with Sunday
Next: 0 cycling 14 billion hp boss with physical mc
Can someone please explain why bronya always advances sunday instead of the carry in these showcases i never got that😭😭
Bronya advance Sunday > Bronya get energy > Sunday advance DPS > Sunday get energy.
People also advance Robin using Bronya so she can enter her ult stat earlier.
cuz sunday advance is guaranted. he use bronya skill on sunday because it has a lot of speed
@@jo_valentinotwouldn't bronya get energy advancing the dps
@@KittyWhite38yes but sunday wouldnt. Also Sunday is SP positive if you have his light cone so not only are you getting more energy you are also generating slightly more SP
Wow hahaha. Funny but impressive run. GG
4:23 why Ult with Sunday before his turn begins? Doesn't that needlessly eat away at it's duration when compared to casting it in the middle of his turn?
I mean, it's going towards Robin this time. You don't really need longer uptime since the CDMG boost doesn't apply to Robin's additional attacks.
@@LisaraScarlet Fair enough
Me when I can’t read
We got 0-cycle hook before Seele 👁️👄👁️
The strongest loli of all time🔥
I mean... How did you even come up with this kind of strats
Yes.
i forgot hook even exist and playable on hsr
Hook doesn't have any summons so is there any reason you go bronya -> sunday -> hook instead of bronya -> hook directly?
To cycle Sunday's ULT faster.
So uh... seele next?
Here😝🌺
Lisara I have a Question, I gave to my Bronya her E2, but know I think that maybe was a mistake, because with that she make Sunday faster than the dps? How can I resolve this mess? Making Sunday slower?
1. Give up on using Eagle set and go for max damage set w/o any speed. You won't be able to do the triple carry actions though.
or
2. Always use Bronya's skill on the carry. Calculate the exact speed needed so your carry's final speed is 1 speed higher than Sunday. This would still let you get 3 carry actions per rotation but Sunday cycles his ULT slow.
Hp inflation is happening because lisara is 0 cycling with bailu
klee in hsr
Himeko powercreeped again 😢
Bozo.
@ZytenEspada u missed the joke 😶
💀
hook > e2 firefly it seems
Meh, honkai support rail better
Remember when people actually thought E6 Hook was better than Himeko?
Yeah, stay on that side, you absolute clowns. 😂
E6 Hook is absolutely better than Himeko outside of modes that don't always have 5 enemies.
@@bloodthirst2ezi want what you're on
Where is the powercreep? All chatacters are viable for endgame
*Copium *
If players stop screaming powercreep they'll have to admit they're just bad, it will never happen.
I mean the powercreep is definitely real. The only reason this is even possible is because of the 3 5-star supports being used to buff/advance Hook on a 0-cycler's team.
@@bloodthirst2ez "the only reason this is even possible" [describes someone playing the game properly]. If a 4 star has the numbers to 0 cycle what manner of 🤡will keep saying powercreep is real? when you have 5 whole cycles to clear the content? in a setup 5 stars also use? please think further
@@ch1dd Powercreep is definitely real
people cry about powercreep when even hook can 0 cycle smh...
what is wrong with hp inflation anyway?
rather than 0-cycling, now you'll 1 cycle... oh noes
now instead of sustainless, you'll need actual defense since you can't just twotap the enemy/permabreak them before engaging with them.
hp inflation is only going to be a problem, when a normal synergistic team takes more than 5 cycles per side.
casuals crying about powercreep aren't 0-1 cycling with hooks lmao, they barely clear (or even fail to clear) with their halfassed acherons and fireflies piloted worse than auto
the reason why the hp bloat/powercreep is a "problem" is because it forces to interact with or plan around the mechanics, but no one wants to admit that they're bad at playing a "2 button game" so they just blame other factors to cope
@sethl1475 yep, any decent team will clear in 1-2 cycles, why do you care if it takes 2-3 now? As a xueyi main waiting for fugue to get back to 0-1 cycling i have not noticed dps powercreep.
who's 0 cycling? 1% of the players? it requires heavily invested supports and playstyle drastically different from the way the game wants you to play it (hoyo hates your 0 cycle clears). also your "from 0 it now is 1 and you'll need to add a sustain" is funny, because if you remove the supports carrying the clear bye bye cycles
@@user-mg4rc1qw6w "if you remove the supports bye bye cycles" wait... do you mean my 4 dps comp isn't working???? no way omg zoinkers!!!...
a good team clears fast. 0 cycling is that same team with above average relics and the usual mix of DDD+wind set tryhardy strats.
if your fei xiao/FF/Acheron/ takes more than 1-2 cycles to clear, it's skill issue.
i've been clearing in less than 2 without any 5* cones on teams like SB guinaifen or Xueyi (and with fugue coming it's gonna be stronker)
if the average joe can't do 5-5 cycles they're just not building properly.
@@raulmaltrain6893 I'm pointing out that it's not "hp inflation is from 0 to 1. also now add a sustain." you are sacrificing third support (very valuable) for survivability and that will decrease your dps by a lot.
acheron/fei/firefly clear in 1-2 cycles in premium regular teams. but imagine this, majority of the players can't afford pulling every new broken dps and their supports. and to use lower rarity or outdated dps it requires way more vertical investing and very good relics