Born in deganwy spent many a happy hour as a child with local lads on the vardre 73 years old now my roots are still there great video often wondered what it would have looked like in its heyday now I do
Cheers Henry. No time machine, but I did find some detailed info and a couple of layout sketches by Historian John Northall. A couple of Site visits later and I was confident enough to begin the model.
Can you believe some knob jockey actually gave this video a thumbs down? Wonderful work mate, I live in Deganwy, quite close to this site and I have always wondered. Your reconstruction is excellent.
Beautiful ! Was on dunes over conwy marina and always look up to there. I'm reading a great historical novel which includes the Deganwy castle. Well, it's a 4 book covering a few generations. In fact, I've read it 3 times it's fascinating times in history.
Cheers Eggnog! I have always been fascinated by this site. I was going to do a still picture illustration of Deganwy a few years ago, but couldn't find enough info. It was your suggestion that put it back into my mind, so I gave it another look.
Brilliant work! Out of interest, would the mountain sides in the background have been that bare at the time? (i know your focus was obviously on the castle so this is in no way a criticism). I remember reading in a biography of Edward I that there was a large wolf population at the time of the invasion. It also mentioned that they were in constant guerilla warfare due to Welsh resistance hiding in what would've been dense forest at the time. There was even a recreation of where they had cut back large areas of forest in order to March troops safely into Gwynedd. The 1000m peaks on the French side of the Pyrenees are how I imagine medieval Snowdonia; blanket disiduous forest up to about 800m with clearances in places for grazing livestock. Although i do know that the hills above Penmaenmawr were cleared for settlement as early as the Bronze age. *I've since found a contemporary (ish!) evidence cited in Linnard (1979 pg. 103) which states '... All of the wholle countrey then was but a forrest, rough and spacious as it is still... but then wast of inhabitants, and all over growen with woods, for Owen Glyndwrs warres beginninge in Anno 1400...' (Sir John Wynne of Gwydyr, cited in Linnard, 1979 pg. 103) ' The History of Forestry and Forests in Wales' (Linnard, 1979) provides a great deal of evidence for how wild the landscape would've been back then. It has lots of first hand evidence of dense forest throughout much of Wales from the Bronze age to the late Middle Ages. It also mentions dense forest in the area at the exact time of Edward's campaign (i can provide direct excerpts as soon as I'm on my laptop).
Thanks Daniel. Yes, I think there would have been extensive woodland across the surrounding hills, and more farmed and worked land than is suggested in the model. The idea of a medieval forest is different to what we think of today. I believe open heath with scattered trees would still be considered forest land back then. The lower flanks of the Pyrenees is a good illustrative reference. I am able to add vast woodland and foliage detail to scenes these days but the PC I owned at the time of this rendering would have melted. :)
Nicely done! That's a great little castle! Ideal size as a family home without being 'too much'. Plenty of space inside the walls to maybe have a weekly market, great transport links, and lovely views. When can I move in?
Hi Dear Dextra, if it's not a secret, can you tell us aspiring 3d enthusiasts how much could one expect to get from such a project? And how much does it vary? If it's just a picture or a video or an VR?
Documents show that the Norman Robert of Rhuddlan built a castle here in 1080, but nothing remains of it. It was later regained by the Welsh, and in 1191 Giraldus Cambrensis described it in the Itinerarium Cambriae as a "noble structure." However, it was soon to be destroyed as part of a scorched earth policy in the face of threats from King John. When Llywelyn ap Iorwerth regained the castle in 1213 he rebuilt it in good style. Only a little of this castle survives today. In 1228 it is recorded that he imprisoned one of his sons here. After Llywelyn's death in 1240 his sons were not strong enough to resist the English advance and demolished the castle in anticipation of its loss. When the English arrived in 1245 they were forced to shiver in tents, so effective had been the Welsh destruction.
I would like to know what the Welsh Structure looked like in the time of Llywelyn ap Iorwerth. The stone castle built for Henry III was destroyed again in 1263 by Llywelyn ap Gruffudd.
You are lucky. I love the Vardre and the views from the castle. I think I am going to redo this model this year with more detail and improved rendering. I have some new techniques I want to try and I think Deganwy will be perfect.
Nice, my friend Andy and I walked round there, lovely place with great views, will link him this vid. He used to imagine what the place looked like and now he will have visual estimation. Is it correct that much of the stones were carted off to aid in the construction of Conwy castle?
Thanks Ponen. I heard that the stone was used to assist with the construction of Conwy. Makes sense, I guess. A few thousand tons of cut and faced stone would be too good to leave.
You weren't far away at all. The castle was located on The Vardre, which is the hill overlooking Deganwy. There are some small sections of ruins still up there to be seen.
That was wicked of you! If I understand correctly, this is the realtime render in unity? It is too resource intensive or pull my old MacBook 2011 with discrete graphics card? To create transitions from the cameras?
Yes realtime render in Unity. I capture scenes with uRecord which is a frame by frame capture script, so frps is not an issue. On a 2011 macbook you should be fine for scene creation and camera transitions. Maybe a bit laggy as a first person player though.
we would like permission to copy if possible , we have an exhibition each year and would love to display this for our members ....the venue for our exhibition has no internet signal , and wondered if a copy can be made in some DVD format ... Grwp Hanes Deganwy History Group .
Could I possibly get the 3d model for this project , I currently have to create a welsh castles app for an assignment for my degree, I wont be releasing it online anywhere, it will only be seen by myself and my tutors :)
Hello, just read your comment. I would have no problem except this Deganwy model has been pulled apart to use for the basis of another scene. I always figured I would start from scratch when I returned to this model.
@@DextraVisual no worries :) I no longer need it since I have allready submitted the model, I checked out some of your other videos I cant wait see what else you create :)
Hi Martin. Fantastic video. Would you please have a look at the park in the past video on youtube. We are looking for this type of production for our site. If you feel you would like to become involved please contact me via our website Many thanks Dave Martin
Hello Dave. I did some work for Paul Harston a couple of years ago. I'd be happy to produce further content for you. I'll send an email over to the site.
Thank you. I'm hoping we can see more reproductions of sites where we normally only see the current, semi-destroyedk state. I know it's a lot of work but I wish it could be done, at least with the more popular sites.
Born in deganwy spent many a happy hour as a child with local lads on the vardre 73 years old now my roots are still there great video often wondered what it would have looked like in its heyday now I do
It was my playground when I was a 'little one.' Always wondered what it was originally like, thank you for the reconstruction.
I'm sure this is the first reconstruction I've see of Deganwy, have you a time machine my friend, brilliantly done.
Cheers Henry. No time machine, but I did find some detailed info and a couple of layout sketches by Historian John Northall. A couple of Site visits later and I was confident enough to begin the model.
Martin Moss You see Deganwy from across the river Conwy, It make's you wonder what Edward I saw, you just gave us that view.
this is amazing...I was born quite close by and this reconstruction brings the castle to life
Cheers David.
I have been to this site and seen the few remaining stones,its so nice to see what it looked like in its hay day.Thank you very much.
Thank you for bringing our castle back to life
I'm really liking that double gate system to get into the inner ward - that's a terrifying kill zone.
That's wonderful. It's so disappointing that little remains. It's a magical site, in many ways perfect for a castle location.
Can you believe some knob jockey actually gave this video a thumbs down? Wonderful work mate, I live in Deganwy, quite close to this site and I have always wondered. Your reconstruction is excellent.
Thank you very much. Great name by the way. My name is also Martin Moss :D
@@DextraVisual That's nuts mate, what are the chances eh? Are you North Wales based?
Beautiful ! Was on dunes over conwy marina and always look up to there. I'm reading a great historical novel which includes the Deganwy castle. Well, it's a 4 book covering a few generations. In fact, I've read it 3 times it's fascinating times in history.
This is excellent and really helps one visualise what the ruined castle may have been like in its heyday. Thanks.
Thank you Lorna.
Brilliant work. I often sat up there trying to visualise the scene. Thanks.
A tremendous piece of work, it really brings Deganwy to life
Thank you Richard.
Brilliant video, i have been up the Vadre alot recently trying to picture how the castle would of looked, thankyou for bringing it to life.
Cheers Tony.
This is really superb, was just there yesterday, it will add a lot to my next visit! Thank you
Excellent model. Can see the Welsh D-shaped towers; similar to Criccieth.
Excelently done. Feels like im there all those years ago.
Cheers Eggnog! I have always been fascinated by this site. I was going to do a still picture illustration of Deganwy a few years ago, but couldn't find enough info. It was your suggestion that put it back into my mind, so I gave it another look.
It looks a little like Castell y Bere would have originally looked like. Same time frame
Interesting to see the castle still had some wooden walls. They seemed to be compensated by a ditch and the elevation.
Brilliant. I enjoy your videos. I would love to see a reconstruction of Barnard Castle.
impressive looking castle, with a great representation of it :P
Really enjoyed seeing this. Great work.
Wow, Bob Marshall, thank you. I've been a huge fan of of your historic work for many years!
Thank you, I am glad my work is of interest. Please drop me a line sometime if you are interested in collaborative work.
Thank you Bob I definitely will.
Superb work once again.
Thanks Spangola :)
great work as usual Martin
Cheers Dan
brilliant
Very nice!
Cheers!
Brilliant! If ever you want to do Middleham Castle that would be my dream come true! Love watching your videos, thank you.
Thank you Dianne. Middleham is a lovely Castle. There is a great series called 'Lost in Castles' I think they did a 3D reconstruction of Middleham.
Thank you, yes I have seen those - but not as real looking as yours!
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Brilliant work!
Out of interest, would the mountain sides in the background have been that bare at the time? (i know your focus was obviously on the castle so this is in no way a criticism).
I remember reading in a biography of Edward I that there was a large wolf population at the time of the invasion. It also mentioned that they were in constant guerilla warfare due to Welsh resistance hiding in what would've been dense forest at the time. There was even a recreation of where they had cut back large areas of forest in order to March troops safely into Gwynedd.
The 1000m peaks on the French side of the Pyrenees are how I imagine medieval Snowdonia; blanket disiduous forest up to about 800m with clearances in places for grazing livestock.
Although i do know that the hills above Penmaenmawr were cleared for settlement as early as the Bronze age.
*I've since found a contemporary (ish!) evidence cited in Linnard (1979 pg. 103) which states '... All of the wholle countrey then was but a forrest, rough and spacious as it is still... but then wast of inhabitants, and all over growen with woods, for Owen Glyndwrs warres beginninge in Anno 1400...' (Sir John Wynne of Gwydyr, cited in Linnard, 1979 pg. 103)
' The History of Forestry and Forests in Wales' (Linnard, 1979) provides a great deal of evidence for how wild the landscape would've been back then. It has lots of first hand evidence of dense forest throughout much of Wales from the Bronze age to the late Middle Ages.
It also mentions dense forest in the area at the exact time of Edward's campaign (i can provide direct excerpts as soon as I'm on my laptop).
Thanks Daniel. Yes, I think there would have been extensive woodland across the surrounding hills, and more farmed and worked land than is suggested in the model. The idea of a medieval forest is different to what we think of today. I believe open heath with scattered trees would still be considered forest land back then. The lower flanks of the Pyrenees is a good illustrative reference.
I am able to add vast woodland and foliage detail to scenes these days but the PC I owned at the time of this rendering would have melted. :)
Nicely done! That's a great little castle! Ideal size as a family home without being 'too much'. Plenty of space inside the walls to maybe have a weekly market, great transport links, and lovely views. When can I move in?
Hi Dear Dextra, if it's not a secret, can you tell us aspiring 3d enthusiasts how much could one expect to get from such a project? And how much does it vary? If it's just a picture or a video or an VR?
That's very impressive! :-)
Thanks Jonathan.
Documents show that the Norman Robert of Rhuddlan
built a castle here in 1080, but nothing remains of it. It was later
regained by the Welsh, and in 1191 Giraldus Cambrensis described it in the Itinerarium Cambriae
as a "noble structure." However, it was soon to be destroyed as part of
a scorched earth policy in the face of threats from King John.
When Llywelyn ap Iorwerth
regained the castle in 1213 he rebuilt it in good style. Only a little
of this castle survives today. In 1228 it is recorded that he imprisoned
one of his sons here. After Llywelyn's death in 1240 his sons were not
strong enough to resist the English advance and demolished the castle in
anticipation of its loss. When the English arrived in 1245 they were
forced to shiver in tents, so effective had been the Welsh destruction.
I would like to know what the Welsh Structure looked like in the time of Llywelyn ap Iorwerth. The stone castle built for Henry III was destroyed again in 1263 by Llywelyn ap Gruffudd.
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the vadre has been my back garden for 32 years
You are lucky. I love the Vardre and the views from the castle. I think I am going to redo this model this year with more detail and improved rendering. I have some new techniques I want to try and I think Deganwy will be perfect.
Nice video
Nice, my friend Andy and I walked round there, lovely place with great views, will link him this vid. He used to imagine what the place looked like and now he will have visual estimation. Is it correct that much of the stones were carted off to aid in the construction of Conwy castle?
Thanks Ponen. I heard that the stone was used to assist with the construction of Conwy. Makes sense, I guess. A few thousand tons of cut and faced stone would be too good to leave.
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Great video. Please could anyone confirm exactly where the castle was ? I recently stayed on Beach Road, anywhere close ?
Thanks
You weren't far away at all. The castle was located on The Vardre, which is the hill overlooking Deganwy. There are some small sections of ruins still up there to be seen.
That was wicked of you! If I understand correctly, this is the realtime render in unity? It is too resource intensive or pull my old MacBook 2011 with discrete graphics card? To create transitions from the cameras?
Yes realtime render in Unity. I capture scenes with uRecord which is a frame by frame capture script, so frps is not an issue. On a 2011 macbook you should be fine for scene creation and camera transitions. Maybe a bit laggy as a first person player though.
Ah, you're encouraged by the Maestro, and I quite upset lately that has nothing to do with this iron. Successful creation of the assets to you!
DEXTRAVISUAL Really nice!
FAB!!!
we would like permission to copy if possible , we have an exhibition each year and would love to display this for our members ....the venue for our exhibition has no internet signal , and wondered if a copy can be made in some DVD format ... Grwp Hanes Deganwy History Group .
Gwyn Hughes No problem at all. I will email your group email this evening to arrange sending a disc over to you.
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Could I possibly get the 3d model for this project , I currently have to create a welsh castles app for an assignment for my degree, I wont be releasing it online anywhere, it will only be seen by myself and my tutors :)
Hello, just read your comment. I would have no problem except this Deganwy model has been pulled apart to use for the basis of another scene. I always figured I would start from scratch when I returned to this model.
@@DextraVisual no worries :) I no longer need it since I have allready submitted the model, I checked out some of your other videos I cant wait see what else you create :)
I walked up there.
Fucking Edward.. I have the banner y ddraig aur and I'm taking it out of the box
Hi Martin.
Fantastic video. Would you please have a look at the park in the past video on youtube.
We are looking for this type of production for our site.
If you feel you would like to become involved please contact me via our website
Many thanks
Dave Martin
Hello Dave. I did some work for Paul Harston a couple of years ago. I'd be happy to produce further content for you. I'll send an email over to the site.
Thank you. I'm hoping we can see more reproductions of sites where we normally only see the current, semi-destroyedk state. I know it's a lot of work but I wish it could be done, at least with the more popular sites.
WOW! WOULDN'T MIND GOING THERE ME SEN AND THE VIEW MUST BE MAGNIFICENT
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