Awesome looking bike! I can understand some of the hatred for HD for the corporate policies but it seems just a little over blown to me. I worry that it will hurt the workers more than the executives and that is a problem.
Price is crazy high without question. I was thinking about that yesterday talking with my boys. One was interesting in an HD and I discussed the price of the bike versus his current level of income and explained for him it just doesn't make sense right now. I am happy he wants one but don't want any of them to go into debt for a bike. Hell at minimum wage in the US right now or even double the minimum wage it would be a whole years salary to pay for one. I explained to him that my bikes growing up were cheap used bikes until I established myself in the working world. That said most people will look at bikes at these prices and will only be able to dream about owning one.
I do wish the vrod had been continued especially with the engine from the pan america and sportster s. Just bump the displacement and make it 180bhp and you have a monster.
Seems like zero to sixty should be in 3 second range. Low threes even. This bikes got almost the HP of a vrod and double the torque almost. Only slightly heavier. What am I missing?
I'm sure it would be faster if I was 40lbs lighter lol. If I took the rpms up and dumped the clutch it would definitely be faster on the 0 to 60 but its a brand new bike thats not through breakin so Im not pushing it to its maximum by any means. And I'm not the best 0 to 60 rider anyway so I have no doubt a better rider would get an even faster number. Appreciate you for watching and for making the comment.
It’s choked everywhere possible. Exhaust, intake, fuel, cam, electronics..down to the fluids. All garbage you don’t want. Financing that garbage hurts lol
I liked the drag bar setup and felt comfortable with the reach. That said, I can understand how some would want to swap them out for a more comfortable bar. I love cruise control. Every bike should have it at this point in my opinion.
V Max is fast for sure but is just one aspect of a bike. I own a number of bikes, V-Rod, KTM Adventure, dual sports and I didn’t buy any of them based on if they were the absolute fastest or not. If that’s all I care about I’d definitely buy my Honda CBR over the v max….
I can understand that and couldn't argue. I love the Pan America. While it's not my favorite big ADV bike, it is a close, tight race. Some would feel differently, and I can understand their position also. I am just glad that they have multiple options for people to choose from. Best thing about motorcycles is that if you don't like this model or this company, there is always another option available.
I think everyone should be able to try the new models from every manufacturer before making the choice to buy one. The way the Air Filter comes off the bike makes it uncomfortable to ride at times and that would be the only thing I would change. But a rider wouldn't know this without riding it first. One of the reasons I'm turning this channel into a non-profit org. I am going to be working to build locations with the help of other riders and manufacturers that will run demo rides all day for $99 that way riders can have a location to ride bikes, talk about the bikes and experience bikes that they may not even know existed. I have a long road ahead to set this up completely but with the riding communities support I believe long term this will benefit the motorcycle industry as a whole.
Honestly this isn't the first time a corporation has stepped across a line that was unpopular with its core consumers and won't be the last. I understand the need for HD and other manufacturers to expand the customer base, but you can't do a drastic shift all at once because that just pushes people away. High prices and high interest rates aren't helping the situation right now either. I love motorcycles and I just want to see more people riding(no matter the brand) and HD will need to walk back a bit and hopefully reestablish the relationships that were affected. Some will not be able to be recovered quickly but I don't want to lose HD from the industry as it will only hurt the overall motorcycle industry and community. Just how I feel.
I was going to purchase one of these until Harley's wokeism was exposed. I will not consider purchasing one unless the current CEO and board of directors are fired and the company takes a 180 degree turn away from their woke stance.
It will be interesting to see how things continue to develop with Harley. While I am not a huge fan of the directions they decided to go, I am more concerned about the everyday workers if they take a hit on sales it will be the workers that suffer not the CEO or the board sadly. I just lost my job after 16 years today because of a large corporation moving jobs away, and while I will find another job, i hate to see the regular working people lose while the others don't. Anyway, I hope they straighten things out and focus on building motorcycles. Thank you for sharing your feelings.
I agree with you with the concern for the frontline employees. I do want my two local dealerships to survive. Viewing it from that perspective, I might be compelled to purchase a Breakout to help them.
I would like to see that happen, but I wouldn't hold my breath. I do see the used market pricing starting to drop, thankfully, but the new bike market is probably going to stay stagnant, in my opinion, until the interest rates go down. Now, I have no sympathy for the corporate profit margins. I do understand they need to make money and if it costs them more to make it they just raise the prices as far as they can until sales level off at that price. At which point they hold it there and when costs for materials, labor and borrowing cost get cheaper we will feel like we can afford more and start buying again and they will get even more profits. Just my feelings on it.
For some dealers you are absolutely correct on what the out the door price would be. Sadly its not just Harley Dealers that are placing alot of additional charges on bikes. I had a subscriber(22 Year Old) tell me once at a Demo Event(Really interesting feeling to get noticed if I'm honest) that he paid out the door for a Honda Rebel 500 ABS(M.S.R.P $6,699) 12k not including the interest on the loan. I was in shock. The higher interest rates aren't helping either but its not something that everyone sees. Even if you were out the door for this at 25k you are still paying 7% interest if you are lucky so the bottom line costs are difficult to wrestle with right now. I really wanted to buy the new Road Glide with the Stage II Kit and Starved Rock HD was giving me a great price but after doing the math I just couldn't square the price with the interest right now.
Can't really argue with that. The cheapest harley is one that no one really wants from what I can tell and its 13k. That's a high cost of entry for new riders in the space. Sure it does cost money to build and develop the bikes but I don't think its helpful long term for the company or the motorcycle industry as a whole. Harley isn't the only company charging more for bikes but they are so big it just shines a bright light on them. I feel for the workers more than anything else
The price of a Harley is higher than most bikes. Harley Davidson is the only brand considered a heirloom Bike. A passed down Harley will always be better than a passed down other brand of bike. If you get the point of view that I'm failing in making. Would I ever pay 24k for a breakout? Not even on my deathbed if it ment I could live longer. 24k I would rather have a Pan America. Just my opinion of coarse
@@journeyofjerry820 And I get it, I love the adrenaline I get when I bond with my bike when tooling on the highway.. I'm addicted to the V-Twin sound too... It's that damn price tag when looking at a new bagger on the showroom floor.
@@steven6611 I am %100 with you there. I have been priced out of ever owning a brand new Harley. Which is sad. I make middle class wages and I can't justify the price tag to say I own 2 Harleys.
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What a beautiful bike 💛
Awesome looking bike! I can understand some of the hatred for HD for the corporate policies but it seems just a little over blown to me. I worry that it will hurt the workers more than the executives and that is a problem.
Popular bike here in Australia, but pitty the price is $37,000 starting price , no mods
Price is crazy high without question. I was thinking about that yesterday talking with my boys. One was interesting in an HD and I discussed the price of the bike versus his current level of income and explained for him it just doesn't make sense right now. I am happy he wants one but don't want any of them to go into debt for a bike. Hell at minimum wage in the US right now or even double the minimum wage it would be a whole years salary to pay for one. I explained to him that my bikes growing up were cheap used bikes until I established myself in the working world. That said most people will look at bikes at these prices and will only be able to dream about owning one.
How the fuck do they drop the deluxe and Vrod and the break out survived?
I do wish the vrod had been continued especially with the engine from the pan america and sportster s. Just bump the displacement and make it 180bhp and you have a monster.
it may be a Honda in drag
I'm waiting for the rainbow model to come out.
@@sawtooth4615they are all “rainbow” bikes at this point…..
Hah haaaaaaaa!!
Does it come with a his & his seat?
Sure and a his and hers and a hers and hers. I Don't care about personal life choices just want more people to experience 2 Wheels.
Seems like zero to sixty should be in 3 second range. Low threes even. This bikes got almost the HP of a vrod and double the torque almost. Only slightly heavier. What am I missing?
It’s the new woke Harley. No balls🏳️🌈
I'm sure it would be faster if I was 40lbs lighter lol. If I took the rpms up and dumped the clutch it would definitely be faster on the 0 to 60 but its a brand new bike thats not through breakin so Im not pushing it to its maximum by any means. And I'm not the best 0 to 60 rider anyway so I have no doubt a better rider would get an even faster number. Appreciate you for watching and for making the comment.
It’s choked everywhere possible. Exhaust, intake, fuel, cam, electronics..down to the fluids. All garbage you don’t want. Financing that garbage hurts lol
@@Reallifenewz $8000.00 bike if not less.
you're leaning a little too forward for my taste. Otherwise seems great.
Cruise Control is bonus points!
I liked the drag bar setup and felt comfortable with the reach. That said, I can understand how some would want to swap them out for a more comfortable bar. I love cruise control. Every bike should have it at this point in my opinion.
I have a Yamaha V-max it will smoke that turd
Of that I have no doubt. That is one model I have always wanted to try as it seems amazing
I will place my money on the V Max every pass down the track.
V Max is fast for sure but is just one aspect of a bike. I own a number of bikes, V-Rod, KTM Adventure, dual sports and I didn’t buy any of them based on if they were the absolute fastest or not. If that’s all I care about I’d definitely buy my Honda CBR over the v max….
24K , I will get a Pan America. That;s just me tho.
I can understand that and couldn't argue. I love the Pan America. While it's not my favorite big ADV bike, it is a close, tight race. Some would feel differently, and I can understand their position also. I am just glad that they have multiple options for people to choose from. Best thing about motorcycles is that if you don't like this model or this company, there is always another option available.
@ 3:45 that bike does not fit you. But this a bike review. I would like to ride it. Great review...
I think everyone should be able to try the new models from every manufacturer before making the choice to buy one. The way the Air Filter comes off the bike makes it uncomfortable to ride at times and that would be the only thing I would change. But a rider wouldn't know this without riding it first. One of the reasons I'm turning this channel into a non-profit org. I am going to be working to build locations with the help of other riders and manufacturers that will run demo rides all day for $99 that way riders can have a location to ride bikes, talk about the bikes and experience bikes that they may not even know existed. I have a long road ahead to set this up completely but with the riding communities support I believe long term this will benefit the motorcycle industry as a whole.
Too bad the Harley legacy has been tarnished by wokeism.
Honestly this isn't the first time a corporation has stepped across a line that was unpopular with its core consumers and won't be the last. I understand the need for HD and other manufacturers to expand the customer base, but you can't do a drastic shift all at once because that just pushes people away. High prices and high interest rates aren't helping the situation right now either. I love motorcycles and I just want to see more people riding(no matter the brand) and HD will need to walk back a bit and hopefully reestablish the relationships that were affected. Some will not be able to be recovered quickly but I don't want to lose HD from the industry as it will only hurt the overall motorcycle industry and community. Just how I feel.
That has nothing to do with the bikes just your political opinion
Harley Davidson will be with us long after some current political trend.
@@BigBird000
do you even know what it means oh wait your hero trump's version is the only one you believe
I was going to purchase one of these until Harley's wokeism was exposed. I will not consider purchasing one unless the current CEO and board of directors are fired and the company takes a 180 degree turn away from their woke stance.
It will be interesting to see how things continue to develop with Harley. While I am not a huge fan of the directions they decided to go, I am more concerned about the everyday workers if they take a hit on sales it will be the workers that suffer not the CEO or the board sadly. I just lost my job after 16 years today because of a large corporation moving jobs away, and while I will find another job, i hate to see the regular working people lose while the others don't. Anyway, I hope they straighten things out and focus on building motorcycles. Thank you for sharing your feelings.
I agree with you with the concern for the frontline employees. I do want my two local dealerships to survive. Viewing it from that perspective, I might be compelled to purchase a Breakout to help them.
Ok so now that Harley went woke and revived a lot of backlash do you think Harley prices will drop??? Serious question 🏁
I would like to see that happen, but I wouldn't hold my breath. I do see the used market pricing starting to drop, thankfully, but the new bike market is probably going to stay stagnant, in my opinion, until the interest rates go down. Now, I have no sympathy for the corporate profit margins. I do understand they need to make money and if it costs them more to make it they just raise the prices as far as they can until sales level off at that price. At which point they hold it there and when costs for materials, labor and borrowing cost get cheaper we will feel like we can afford more and start buying again and they will get even more profits. Just my feelings on it.
Yuck no woke harleys. Harley is tainted now. Lol!! Down with harley. Go buy a good reliable bike and ditch the crappy harley
Never again. Indian is made in America by a company that respects its clients.
10k overpriced, slow junker
Give me 😂
32k with all the bs they charge for
For some dealers you are absolutely correct on what the out the door price would be. Sadly its not just Harley Dealers that are placing alot of additional charges on bikes. I had a subscriber(22 Year Old) tell me once at a Demo Event(Really interesting feeling to get noticed if I'm honest) that he paid out the door for a Honda Rebel 500 ABS(M.S.R.P $6,699) 12k not including the interest on the loan. I was in shock. The higher interest rates aren't helping either but its not something that everyone sees. Even if you were out the door for this at 25k you are still paying 7% interest if you are lucky so the bottom line costs are difficult to wrestle with right now. I really wanted to buy the new Road Glide with the Stage II Kit and Starved Rock HD was giving me a great price but after doing the math I just couldn't square the price with the interest right now.
My opinion, every Harley is overpriced. I'm sure I'll get some haters... O'Well..
Can't really argue with that. The cheapest harley is one that no one really wants from what I can tell and its 13k. That's a high cost of entry for new riders in the space. Sure it does cost money to build and develop the bikes but I don't think its helpful long term for the company or the motorcycle industry as a whole. Harley isn't the only company charging more for bikes but they are so big it just shines a bright light on them. I feel for the workers more than anything else
The price of a Harley is higher than most bikes. Harley Davidson is the only brand considered a heirloom Bike. A passed down Harley will always be better than a passed down other brand of bike. If you get the point of view that I'm failing in making. Would I ever pay 24k for a breakout? Not even on my deathbed if it ment I could live longer. 24k I would rather have a Pan America. Just my opinion of coarse
@@journeyofjerry820 And I get it, I love the adrenaline I get when I bond with my bike when tooling on the highway.. I'm addicted to the V-Twin sound too... It's that damn price tag when looking at a new bagger on the showroom floor.
@@steven6611 I am %100 with you there. I have been priced out of ever owning a brand new Harley. Which is sad. I make middle class wages and I can't justify the price tag to say I own 2 Harleys.
overpriced woke bike
Harley sucks