Thank you so much for your comment! The only thing I want to note for the others is that, the hot plate is not the most efficient way to heat up the glass for this particular method. This is because is when you set it to a set temperature, it's simply heating the heating pad to that set temperature. It takes a long time for the display on it to be brought up to that temperature. This is opposed to a heat gun or even a hair dryer where the heat coming off the tool is higher. When you use a wire tool, the display stays on the heat pad the whole time so this loss of heat/heating cycle is not an issue. I tried to use the tool with the display on the heating pad, but it is not practical at all because the tool/hands need to be so close to the heat pad. This is mentioned in this video but I noticed is that in room temperature, the display cools down within 10~20 seconds depending on the amount of heat that was applied, so heat needs to be applied every 10/20 seconds. It takes at least a minute or two for a display that's been cooled down to reach the temperature set on the heating pad. I'd recommend a heat-gun. It can apply heat in the area where you are working, and it only takes about 10 seconds for it to get the area hot enough. However, I suppose the flip-side is that using a heat pad will take out the guess work/getting isopropyl alcohol to the bubbling point but for those who are looking to spend extra money in hopes of making this repair easier, I'd have to say the laser temperature gauge before the heat pad. Thank you for sharing your experience!
@@ecdiy 18:52 applying the tapes and speaker grill doesn't seem obvious to me. I just ordered my note 9 kit. Is there a video that shows the best way to secure the ends? I assume its simply remove plastic over adhesive, apply to phone, then remove top film? does the speaker grill click in plase or is it secured by the end piece? BTW ty for seling complete kits and editing these awesome videos. I would love the option of a quality tempered glass screen protector that I could add to the kit. I'd pay an extra $5 if it came with a good screen protector that I could install at the end of the process to help protect my screen. Do your sell your repaired phones locally or on swappa/ebay? I wouldn't mind buying phones that had been repaired by experienced people if it saved me some money. I have another note 9 that has a broken display, not sure who to trust on ebay, do you or could you sell note 9 displays? Lastly it would be cool if you could recommend or sell a phone case that you feel provides reasonable protection from damage. obviously the 2 cases i had used didn't provide much protection. LOL
@@MichaelMantion Hello Michael, Thank you for taking your time to comment and thank you very much for choosing us. The tapes are indeed double sided adhesive and you are correct. You would peel them off the plastic film layer, apply them to the phone then peel the green protective layer off. You would want to install the front speaker grill before doing the tapes. I wouldn't say the speaker grill 'clicks' in to place but there is a precise cut-out for it. It is ultimately secured by the front glass. (There is a rim/flange on the bottom of the speaker grill that prevents it from falling out of the cut-out on the front glass). We are happy to add a tempered glass screen protector for you. We do have several types, full glue (pad based adhesive as well as UV glue based adhesive) as well as the standard curved protectors with adhesive along the edges only. I've been focusing on gluing techniques/methods for phones with the front camera within the display area (i.e S10/S10e/S10+) and going 'broader' in terms of models and makes rather than do the same phones for resale. Even if I were to though, I wouldn't necessarily price the repaired devices at any lower than other used devices on the market that'd have scratches on the screen/that may have had the screen replaced in the past with possibly an aftermarket display. As for other possible repair options kindly contact us with your location and we will look into this for you. As for the case however, it's not something we are particularly experienced in so it's not something I'd feel comfortable commenting about. From our experience though, the screen protector plays a more important role in preventing screen damages. Any further questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us. Best regards,
I was hesitant on ordering a kit for my Note 8 but after watching your video and watching you taking the time to share your knowledge in great detail while trying to help us each step of the way, I went ahead and placed an order just now. Regardless of whether I succeed or not, you seem like someone who is not out to make a quick buck and genuinely cares about the product you supply and tries to help people along the way. Wish me luck!
Thank you so much for your kind words. Means a lot to us. While I have you, I do also want to mention the most common mistake though is the tool being inserted too deep. You may have to apply a bit of pressure for the tip to stay curled as it wants to flatten out again. And it is also important to position it (lean it back) so that you can use the frame as the fulcrum to ensure the tip of the blade is touching the underside of the glass. Please see this diagram for demonstration bit.ly/OCABladeCaution (This photo is also linked in the description section of both videos before linking our store). Any further questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further. Best regards,
@@flamingrage100 Removing the glass was quite simple (the alcohol and heat gun makes it easy), I had the most difficulties with removing the glue from the camera area.
When he says make sure to go slow, MAKE SURE TO GO SLOW. I damaged my lcd on my s7 edge by puncturing it like the examples in the video but it was my fault. I was using a hair dryer and took too long. If anyone wants to do this, invest in a heat gun and don't rush the process like I did. Take your time.
Thank you so much for your kind words! Really appreciate it. We have significantly improved our methods and tools since this video. Please ensure to check out our latest videos for the newest tips & tricks! Have a great rest of the day!
Definitely take your time, and don't be afraid to step away for a bit if you feel frustrated. I was having a hard time getting the OCA blade in on my s9+ (probably not enough heat in hindsight, first time using a heat gun so was being overly cautious) and it's not a $30 repair anymore. Worst part is I could have practiced on a different phone that only displays random colors. Still planning to get my hands on more phones with broken screens and doing it till I get it right!
This video is very well made. Even though it's just the glass of my S9+ that is cracked, repair places are quoting me up to $300. When looking at DIY videos most of them have you disassemble the entire phone but this is the first video I've seen where the glass is taken off by itself.
@@malcolmmoore9938 Hello Malcolm, thank you for taking your time to comment and thank you very much for your kind compliment! I can't say it's an easy process as noted in our videos but following every step & tip carefully and avoiding the mistakes would result in a successful repair. The price you have been getting does not seem too far off from the norm and whether you decide to purchase or not, if you have any questions/concerns regarding cracked screen repair, please do not hesitate to comment/contact us. Have a great rest of the weekend.
I just bought this tool and it really is amazing. Definitely can't recreate because it is insanely thin yet holds it shape just right like a spring. 10/10 would recommend buying. Not paid to say this.
I have bought this toolset, and have to say it is harder than it looks, its very easy to make a mistake. I advise caution. As for the company, they are amazing, they will answer any questions you have and they offer refunds even when they are not obliged to. Overall very satisfied with them and can recommend 100%. Looking forward to more videos from you guys.
It worked! I really doubted my ability to complete a repair like this but it actually worked and I saved 200 bucks! Edit: so I ended up failing to put the screen on because I didn't notice the dent in the frame that prevented the screen from fitting in. If I had known I'm sure I would've succeeded
Really love what you guys are doing here! It's an extremely well thought out product. I just have one question. Will the phone still be water proof after this repair?
Hello David, Thank you very much for your compliment. Means a lot to us. We know we have a lot more to do. As for the water resistance, great question! This was actually asked before. Please excuse me for a copy & paste answer: In theory, the phone should still be water resistant. The tape adhesive which provides the seal is indeed original grade. However, the LOCA process would have to be done in a very precise manner and be spread perfectly evenly in order to achieve factory spec water resistance which is 5ft submersion for 30 minutes. While this is possible, this may not be easy for a novice and the water resistance may be less, to the point it can only resist regular splashes/drops of water (IPX1~IPX5 for example. I won't be able to go over what all the ratings mean but if you google IPX rating, there is a good article written by audioreputation with the specific details for each rating).
At the end of the day though, cracked screens are not water resistant either. So really, there isn't anything to lose when it comes to water resistance when replacing cracked front glass. Any further questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further. Best regards,
I've been using a 3d printer and the heated bed is ideal to use to do this repair. As said in the video a laser temperature gauge was an excellent tool
Man, man, man what kind of guy would I be if I don’t like this video, thanks bro. My phone has a little chip on the edge, u can hardly recognize it but it troubles me, thanks a million for going into the details
Not a problem at all. If the chip is hardly noticeable, then you may want to weigh the risk vs reward. I would have to see a photo to confirm this but a screen that's a little chipped on the edge so that it's hardly noticeable isn't necessarily vulnerable to being damaged further like most cracked screens are. (Once the structural integrity of the glass is gone, the display itself can easily be damaged) I'd also like to remind you that the repair isn't as easy as it seems in the video as mentioned multiple times in the video. If a mistake is made the display can be damaged. Something you may want to consider. Any questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further. Have a great rest of the day.
It is indeed not an easy repair as mentioned in the video multiple times. It is a delicate process and an error can result in permanent display damage. As with any difficult task however, when you do succeed it is very rewarding but definitely the risks need to be weighed. Thank you for your comment!
You are the best sir i have watched hundreds of videos from several days and i got complete and excellent 100% working method only in your video. Thanks a lot
Louie just take your time. My glass was shattered with some pieces missing so that made it a lot easier. No extra damage but that’s because my glass was pretty bad. Main thing is take your time, he says 2 I think I did it in 4-5 hours. Take your time and watch this video in order as you do the work. Kit is his description and for a reasonable price
Hi evan, just wondering if you used any heat? I've ordered on for my s9. My screen is cracked to tiny pieces on the bottom left and also a little on the top right. I'm uncertain how to start getting the tool under the glass. Thank you for sharing.
Thanks for a very inormative and helpful video! I really appreciate that you pointed out the pitfalls. One question I have is that some use a wire instead of a prying tool to remove the front glass. Is there a reason why you prefer a prying tool in favor a wire?
Hello Rasmuss, Wire tool is a good method as well. However, it does definitely have its own precautions. It's easier for flat displays but for curved displays, it can be easy to damage the display with the wire tool as well. Furthermore, as it requires both hands to operate, you'd also need someone/something to hold the device such as the heat pad with built in suction. We do plan on covering the wire tool method as well. There is actually a way to use both the wire tool and our tool together which can save some time. Any further questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further. Best regards,
Best glass repair video I've seen by far! I'm tempted to try this on my Note 8, however I'm concerned at how risky the process actually is. Do you have any info about the actual (percentage?) chance of failure if I were to attempt it? I would not want to instantly destroy my phone!
Thank you for your comment. It's difficult for us to estimate because this new patent pending tool and method, which we know for sure makes the process much easier than the conventional method, is new and we do not have enough sales to calculate the odds of failure vs. success. It's also really difficult for us to try and calculate this figure because generally speaking, the vast majority of the customers don't end up contacting us after receiving the item. This could be because they succeeded and everything went as planned but we do get messages from customers who don't succeed from time to time in which case we ask for more information as to how/when it failed so we can see if we missed anything and offer a full refund despite the tool and some of the contents having been used. However, we have been doing this for a very long time to know that as long as all the steps are followed carefully, and the common mistakes (tool jumping, carving the edges, speaker grill/loose piece of glass getting lodged) noted and demonstrated in the video before the start of the actual repair are avoided, you should not have a problem. As with any DIY projects whether it be car repair or home renovation, there is an element of risk when you dive into a new DIY project. Similar to how a home hardware store can provide you with all the tools and material to make the job/renovation easier but cannot guarantee success, we can only provide the tools and the material to do the job.
@@shimmyjamily Not great, I accidentally cut through the corner and damaged the LCD. Sold the phone as broken again on Ebay but lost £50 in total. It's kinda harder than it looks, and as I wanted to do it to earn money I swapped to replacing iPhone screens (and frames) and so far my first phone (6s) had earned me the £50 back! I have no idea your reasons to do it but If you can I would really avoid trying this yourself.
this is good i have tryed on already riuned oleds and if you touch it on the edge it makes a black mark but i have got them off with out making more damage. The first thing is to get your tool between glass and oled once you get that it not so hard just keep heatting and push but take your time. i learnt the hard hard way i try the edges.
Hello Abbas, thank you for your comment. You can indeed use the tool to remove the AMOLED from the mid frame. We realize it wouldn't be difficult to find out but we seek your kind understanding in that at this moment, we are not prepared to publicly disclose the thickness of the tool. If we can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to comment/contact us. Have a great rest of the day!
Not a problem at all! Thank you for your purchase! Any questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further. Have a great rest of the day!
@@ecdiy Hey, do I necessarily need the razor blade, or can I use a normal cutter blade to make the gap? I want to buy the OCA Blade, im from Germany. Greetings
Thank you for your comment! I had responded to the other comment of yours but the process is the same for a Note 9. You may do the repair without opening the phone, but please kindly note that if you happen to get the glue in the front camera area, the photo may be blurry until you take the phone apart to clean the front camera thoroughly or replace it.
I'm a very novice DIYer and don't have the confidence to pull off something this delicate with something I really care about, but it seems you guys have a solid method and the perfect finesse down. Is there any way I could send in my phone to you guys to complete this process for me by paying you?
Hello Jason, Thank you for your comment! It isn't something we offer as a service yet, but we do plan on offering it in the near future and it may be able to arrange it for you now. Kindly contact us through the 'contact us' page so we can assist you further. Best regards,
Hey there, I noticed when watching other videos on glass only replacements that when the glass is removed, the lcd layer looks wavy. It does not appear to go away even after the new glass is applied. Will this be the case with these tools?
The wave/ripple effect is caused by a combination of a couple of things: One is too much pressure during the LOCA process. The reason we mention to let the LOCA spread on its own as much as possible before 'stretching' it out is due to this reason. It should be about 80% filled on its own. It will spread on its own with just the weight of the glass and you can use hair dryer/heat gun to speed up the process as the heat helps lower the viscosity. Pressing to start the spreading from the get go can indeed create 'pockets' especially one around the battery where the metal frame isn't supporting the display The second is pressure during the cleaning process. This wave is experienced by even people doing the repair without the OCA blade and LOCA (using OCA films) and many believe it to be the OCA film's fault, but the same 'pockets' mentioned above can be created if you also apply too much pressure during the cleaning process. This comes up most often as an impression of the battery area being visible. If we can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further. Have a great rest of the day.
Hello Devon, Thank you for your comment! Whether it is Note 8 or Note 9, the principal is the exact same. If we can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to comment further/contact us. Have a great rest of the day.
We don't have our own video for the back glass replacement at the moment but we do have a repair guide for the process. We also have back glasses for sale. Kindly contact us for further details. Have a great weekend!
We do, we just don't have a listing up for it at the moment because we as ExpertCellDIY try to only sell items we have our own video instructions for. The process is the same and we can send you a direct invoice for you to make a purchase. Kindly contact us through the "contact" page on our website. Thank you.
Hello Zain, yes it would. The process is the exact same for Note 8 and Note 9. You'd use 2.5mL of LOCA for those phones. If we can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to comment further/contact us. Best regards,
A good video. Would you be able to give me an estimate on how long shipping would take to the UK? (I am aware of customs import taxes). I am hesitant to buy from auction websites as I have not found a kit that comes with a tutorial video.
Hello Lawrence, thank you for your comment and thank you very much for your compliment! Shipping to the UK generally takes about 8~11 business days (just over 1.5 weeks to just over 2 weeks). However, we seek your kind understanding in that the delivery time is not something we can guarantee because from time to time, the items do get delayed due to customs/weather along the way. If we can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment. Have a great rest of the day!
@@ecdiy Thank you for your reply. Do you sell the Back glass in case that happens to break during removal (or at a later date)? Did I see in some of your alternate ebay listings (under expresscelldepot) that you used to?
Hello, thank you for your comment! This does make it easier but as noted in the video, it is not an easy repair. If you happen to change your mind and wish to return the item, please let us know. Any questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us. Best regards,
Not a problem at all. Thank you very much for your purchase! If you have any questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to comment further or contact us. Have a great rest of the day!
Hi, that's a great video! Good job! I'm kinda excited that because of Your video and the screen repair kit (which I'm going to order soon) I feel like I would be able to fix it myself :) BUT the thing is I'm a little bit worried about LOCA getting into the front camera/proximity sensor area. Would You advise me how to avoid LOCA getting there? I also don't want to remove the back glass....
Hello Kuba, I am not sure how I missed this. I am very sorry. This has been briefly discussed in another response so I am going to be copying some parts of the response from it and add in more details to give you a better idea. Our LOCA, although it is liquid, it behaves almost like a pizza dough when placed between the front glass and the screen, in a sense that it doesn't freely flow like water, it needs to be 'kneaded' and has a tendency to 'bounce' back when you let go of the pressure (this is the reason why we include metal clips with our kits to apply the pressure required to 'hold' the glue in position). So what you want to do is dispense the glue in a dog-bone shape and lower the glass slowly as shown in the video. Once the glass has been lowered, simply let it sit and let gravity do the spreading. You want it to spread about 80% of the way on its own without you applying pressure. You can apply heat to help it spread on its own. You can also tilt the phone to help it spread more evenly. Once it is about 80% spread, work the bottom corners first, and then put the included clips on there to hold the glue from retracting further. Then do the same thing for the top left corner. When you get to the corner with the front camera, use your hands/fingers as you will have better control over the flow. When it has just reached the end of the display area (clear portion of the glass), expose it to daylight and cure it. With this being said, gluing without getting the LOCA on the front camera area can be a little bit difficult for a novice to do. For this reason, our demonstration includes removing the back glass and removing the front camera and proximity sensor as a preventative measure. Any further questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further. Best regards,
Hello David, thank you for your interest. May I ask which kit you are looking for? The kits can be found on both the main page at the bottom or by clicking "S8/S9/Plus/Note 8/9 Repair Kits" from the navigation bar. Any further questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further. Best regards,
Hello Krupalsinh, thank you for taking your time to comment. We are not offering repairs as a service just yet but we can definitely do it for you(Please see the edit below). Kindly send contact us with the details (the model, your location) using the contact page on our website and we will get back to you promptly. If we can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further. Have a great day! **Edit: Aug 27** We have been getting quite a few inquiries regarding mail-in-repair. We sincerely apologize but we realized taking on this endeavor may be too much for us at the moment. We are currently quite occupied with a few tasks: developing a non conductive adhesive remover that is oil-based (non flammable so that we can ship it along with our kit, eliminating the need for isopropyl alcohol), experimenting to find out the best way to glue the glass down on S10/S10e/S10+ are our 2 main priorities. Note 8 video has been put on hold because we feel that we are so close, and we want to be able to feature it in the new video. It may not work out and we may end up having to put up the videos without the adhesive remover but the point is, is that as much as we want to help, taking on this endeavor will only distract us. Furthermore, as we have sold our liquid nitrogen freezer/autoclave/laminator machine time ago when we started focusing on DIY repairs, we would have been doing the repair in the same DIY manner without special equipment. As a result, we found our price to do the repair would not even have been competitive so us doing the repair would not have been any help at all.
Hello, thank you for taking your time to comment. I am not sure if I understand you correctly but I will take a shot at responding. If you are wondering if isopropyl alcohol is safe to use, it is what we recommend that you use. We did a number of experiments one including dipping a phone in 99% isopropyl alcohol with both the front and back glass removed with the phone on for 15 minutes. It was fully submerged and the phone worked without an issue after. If you would like to see screenshots from the experiment video, please kindly contact us. We do plan on having the video uploaded on here soon as well. If we can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to comment further/contact us. Best regards,
hi, so i am about to start fixing my phone, i got the kit and everything. ita sunny today so thats a go for me. anyway, my phone back is cracked and i cant seem to find a cheap one to replace it. so i was wondering any tips on how to spread the loca without removing the front camera , i really need my front camera to work well. is there a trick to do this without needing to replace the front camrea. and not cause it to be foggy?
Hello Fahad, We can arrange a back glass for you if you would like. Kindly contact us. As for avoiding glue from getting into the camera area, we actually have new tapes that surrounds the areas to protect them. We have been shipping all kits with the new tapes for a few weeks now but it's still not a complete seal and precautions should be followed. Below is the tip for avoiding glue from getting into the front camera/sensor area. Our LOCA, although it is liquid, it behaves almost like a pizza dough/jelly when placed between the front glass and the screen, in a sense that it doesn't freely flow like water, it needs to be 'kneaded' and has a tendency to 'bounce' back when you let go of the pressure (this is the reason why we include metal clips with our kits to apply the pressure required to 'hold' the glue in position). So what you want to do is dispense the specified amount of glue in a dog-bone shape. If you see any bubble at this point, you may want to remove it by popping/moving it with a screwdriver. Lower the glass slowly one side at a time as shown in the video. If you get any bubbles, please do not try to lift it again as it'd introduce more bubbles. Once the glass has been lowered, simply let it sit and let gravity do the spreading. You want it to spread about 80% of the way on its own without you applying pressure. You can apply heat to help it spread on its own. You can also tilt the phone to help it spread more evenly. Once it is about 80% spread, work the bottom corners first, and then put the one of the included clips on there to hold the glue from retracting. Then do the same thing for the top left corner. When you get to the corner with the front camera, use your hands/fingers as you will have better control over the flow. When it has just reached the end of the display area (clear portion of the glass), expose it to daylight and cure it. If for example, you see that the glue is spreading more to the top before it fills the top right corner, then hold the phone horizontally with the top right corner down to have gravity help you spread more to the edge so that when you apply pressure the corner gets filled evenly. Does this make sense? If anything is unclear, please let us know.
Hello, thank you for your comment. I sincerely apologize but I am not sure if I'm understanding you correctly. Are you by any chance referring to an order you have placed? We do ship to Europe, and it typically takes 8~12 business days (just over 1.5 weeks to just over 2 weeks). If you are having any issue with your purchase, kindly contact us/leave a comment and we will assist you promptly.
Hello Mike, thank you for your comment! If it isn't distilled water, I'd definitely not use it as it can cause a short. if I were you, I'd look for 99% isopropyl alcohol.
@@msmith7341 Not a problem at all. It is the least we can do. If you take the screen off while the phone is powered down, it is not a problem. However, speaking from experience it can be difficult to ensure your finger doesn't accidentally press the power button during the repair as you'd frequently be adjusting the grips on the device during the glass removal process. Any further questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further. We are here to help. Have a great rest of the day.
best video ever. can you tell me how to prevent loca from going near the sensors and camera? and I don't want to remove the back glass and break my seal. thank you
Thank you for taking your time to comment. Please refer to the below tips on how to avoid glue from getting on the camera/sensors. Still, the glue may get on the camera which is why we include a replacement back glass tape with every kit although we do not advertise it, to give our customers the chance to either clean the camera after, should the glue get on there or do the repair with the phone apart. Our LOCA, although it is liquid, it behaves almost like a pizza dough when placed between the front glass and the screen, in a sense that it doesn't freely flow like water, it needs to be 'kneaded' and has a tendency to 'bounce' back when you let go of the pressure (this is the reason why we include metal clips with our kits to apply the pressure required to 'hold' the glue in position). So what you want to do is dispense the specified amount of glue in a dog-bone shape. If you see any bubble at this point, you may want to remove it by popping/moving it with a screwdriver. Lower the glass slowly one side at a time as shown in the video. If you get any bubbles, please do not try to lift it again as it'd introduce more bubbles. Once the glass has been lowered, simply let it sit and let gravity do the spreading. You want it to spread about 80% of the way on its own without you applying pressure. You can apply heat to help it spread on its own. You can also tilt the phone to help it spread more evenly. Once it is about 80% spread, work the bottom corners first, and then put the one of the included clips on there to hold the glue from retracting. Then do the same thing for the top left corner. When you get to the corner with the front camera, use your hands/fingers as you will have better control over the flow. When it has just reached the end of the display area (clear portion of the glass), expose it to daylight and cure it. If for example, you see that the glue is spreading more to the top before it fills the top right corner, then hold the phone horizontally with the top right corner down to have gravity help you spread more to the edge so that when you apply pressure the corner gets filled evenly. Does this make sense? If anything is unclear, please let us know. Any further questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further. Best regards,
As for the glass removal, the method works for S10e, but when it comes to gluing, you'd have to take the phone apart because of the location of the camera being within the screen area, at least for now until we finish our pad based adhesive installation tool & method.
I disagree. ONly because in my humid environment everything will get super wet and likely damage the item in the long term. I guess if you live in a dry climate it may not be a huge concern.
@@MichaelMantion I disagree! No problems if you totally dismantle, take the innards out so its only the screen assembly that makes contact with the ice.
On some phones dry ice is great for removing the screen, the Loca glue becomes brittle and the screen separates from the digitizer easily. You don't have to worry about condinsation, as the dry ice melts it doesn't turn to a liquid but turns to a gas. In some cases dry ice is better than heat.
Gonz Espinosa back up your phone first using smart switch. If anything goes wrong you can restore the back up to your new phone if anything goes wrong. To fix Samsung phone screens are not cheap.
Hello Andrew, Does it say "distilled water" or "purified water" under inactive ingredients? If so, it should work but I do want to also point out that 3 customers over the past year have had an issue with 91% isopropyl alcohol made by "Equate" (Despite claiming "purified water". The odd thing is, is the same bottle in Canada says just "water" under inactive ingredient). We can't confirm for sure if the problems were both indeed caused during the cleaning process but it was odd that they were both using Equate & Walgreens brand isopropyl alcohol and the symptoms mimicked that of a water damage. However, at the end of the day even if you use lower percentage isopropyl alcohol like 70%/60% if you can avoid turning the device on until it is completely evaporated then there isn't any risk. The problem is, when you are constantly switching grips during the cleaning process, it is easy to accidentally hit the power button. There are several sellers online who sell designated LOCA cleaners for screen refurbishing but we are not able to ship them due to shipping restrictions with our carrier as well as our forwarder/distributor (no flammable goods). A customer did note though, that wiping the display with lighter fluid does do a good job at removing stubborn bits of residual LOCA. We have tried a few other household items but have yet to find a good alternative, (but coconut oil does work really well for the lubrication part so you can use it for the glass removal, and it's not conductive - technically speaking it is but the conductivity is so low that it's negligible, just like the 99% IPA. So you can use it to remove the glass then use the lower percentage isopropyl alcohol for the cleaning part. It's not too difficult to not accidentally turn the phone on during the cleaning part) Any further questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further.
@@ecdiy You really go above and beyond with your support. Thank you so much. I've had my kit from you guys for a few weeks and have just been putting off using it because of the holidays, but I'm going to proceed in the next day or two. I do have some of the Equate brand which does list just water as the inactive ingredient, but I also have another that lists purified water. Either way, I'll proceed cautiously with the device off and handle it carefully during the cleaning. Thanks again for your reply and all the information!
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Hello Alex, Thank you for taking your time to comment! Yes indeed, you can use this tool and method on an S20. There is enough room for the razor blade to pry without damaging the screen but there is indeed less margin for error. Please see bit.ly/S10razorlift (S10 shown as an example but the same applies). We've had customers who reported applying more heat than usual and using a suction cup (included) instead of a razor to create the initial insertion gap with success. (You may need to put packaging tape on the glass to maximize suction if the glass is cracked atop) The glass removal process is a delicate process for sure across all devices as mentioned in the videos but the concept behind it is more or less universal. The glue layer is thicker than our OCA blade, and the OCA blade is the same thickness as the wire tool that you see readily being used on TH-cam. Heat softens the glue to make the insertion easier. So for other phones as well, if you see a video that's a confirmation that this method will work (but as mentioned above, almost every smartphone these days have displays that are assembled the same way and the same method can apply) Please be aware though, that because of the location of the front camera, you'd want to remove the back glass and remove the front camera before doing the gluing. Any further questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further. Best regards,
Hello Imaan, Thank you for taking your time to comment. The tool and the method for the glass removal works as shown on S21. The difference though, would be that the back glass does need to be removed in order to remove the front camera during the gluing due to the location of it. Some of the customers expressed concern about doing the initial lifting of the display but there is enough room for the razor blade to pry without damaging the screen. Please see bit.ly/S10razorlift (S10 shown as an example but the same actually applies for all newer models). We do have all the parts to put together a kit for S21 for $29.21. If you are interested, please contact us. If we can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to comment further/contact us. Have a great rest of the day.
@@ecdiy Thank you very much for the response, was wondering as I purchased the XL Oca Blade a while back and was wondering if it could be used on the s21. This has been a great help.
You'll need to get them at a very cheap price not eBay prices. Most phones will have broken screens or burn images to LCD then it wont be viable to buy and make a profit. Did this years ago. Things changed now you have password locks on them Google ID locks etc. all time consuming.
Paul Zac Honestly for a lot of phones it’s fairly easy to remove the the google lock or the frp. Although I totally agree with the statement that eBay prices won’t work. The screen burn phones are only fixable by replacing the lcd.
Hi, I just purchased one of your repair kits for the galaxy s9. I've trawled through the comments to try and find hoe many people have successfully repaired their phone using this method. Is there any reviews I can find? I'm a little anxious but I have an old S8 that already has a damaged lcd so I'll have a practice before I try and tackel my S9... Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Cheers
Hello, thank you for choosing us! I sincerely apologize for the delay in my response. Practicing on an old phone will definitely help because even when the LCD is dead, you will be able to know if you make any mistake. Whether it be inserting the tool too deep, causing a puncture/bleed. (A bleed on a dead display will show as an almost brown color) In terms of reviews, we do have some on our site. Both successes as well as fails. We do want everyone to be able to succeed but unfortunately, we do have customers who fail and send us a message without writing a review also and we are continuing our experiments to look for easier methods/tricks. If we can be of any assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further. Best regards,
What do you think of people using dry ice and a heat gun to first heat it up then make it really cold the heat it back up to loosen the adhesive much easier Edit:Also possibly would it be good to have someone else with both the heat gun and temperature gauge to toggle the heat gun on and off to keep it at the right temperature for the entire repair?. Also I've been told that it isnt good for the phone to be that hot while still on do I need to remove the screen first?
Hello Chris, Thank you for taking your time to comment. I am not quite sure of using dry ice and a heat gun together. It's usually that dry ice is used to freeze the adhesive and remove the glass that way. However, when it comes to freezing, there is definitely a learning curve with it. I know in videos it seems like once you freeze it, you can just twist/pop it off but it is a very delicate process nonetheless. As a popular TH-camr "JerryRigEverything" says, it's like trying to twist a dorito without cracking it. There is a good video that explains about the downsides of freezing. Here is the link: th-cam.com/video/9MS4zG4blo4/w-d-xo.html As for toggling the heat gun on and off, it may be a good way to keep the display at a constant temperature but I think you will lose more speed that way, unless you have someone that can help you manage the heat gun & temperature gauge while you do the repair You do not need to remove the screen first. When you are talking 180'F/82'C which is the upper end of the recommended temperature range, this actually isn't an extreme scenario for the phone to be in. The phone being on the dash/seat/windshield suction cup holder type device on a hot day will get the phone close to that heat. In short, it is something the phone is engineered to withstand. Any further questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further. Have a great rest of the day.
Hi, so i have an s9 and it's pretty shattered do you recommend buying a tempered glass protector and apply it before starting the repair to reduce the possibility of damaging the screen? Or cellotaping the screen. Let me know. Thanks
Hello Sallek, I have tried both methods several times since the video was uploaded and I find that the tape works a little better because it is more resilient and you can wrap it around the phone also to hold it tighter. If we can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further. Best regards,
@@ecdiy Firstly thanks for responding so quickly but I'm a little confused, by wrapping the tape around the phone wouldn't that hold the front glass on the phone, isn't our goal to remove the front glass. If you can could you also explain why you said in the video, that a phone with a more shattered screen is easier to fix? As you also said there is a higher chance for the glass to bend inward and damage the oled. Thanks again and sorry to make this question so long.
@@sallekmo The goal is indeed to remove the front glass. What wrapping the tape does, is prevent the tool from lifting and causing a teeter totter effect on a piece of glass that's not fully removed which may be sharp on one end as demonstrated in the video and as you mentioned. You would unwrap the tape as you remove more glass so there isn't as much resistance on the tool as there would be if you were removing the glass as 1 piece. Having glass in many pieces allow you to remove it more easily as the tool will experience much less drag. The risk is the glass lifting as you mentioned is minimized by wrapping the tape. Any further questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further. Best regards,
@@ecdiy sorry one last question as I am attempting the repair tomorrow, would you recommend heating the phone before putting the tape on or afterwards. Thanks again really appreciate it
@@sallekmo Not a problem at all! Please do not feel bad about asking questions. We are here to help. To answer your question though, you would apply the tape before heating the phone. Any further questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further. Best regards,
What are the odds! We are actually in Mississauga as well. We can do it for you. We used to refurbish displays exclusively, (around the time S3 was out) but as DIY methods/repairs started getting much more popular, we got out of the business and started selling kits. The trend now is reversing due to the curved screens making it more time consuming/finicky. We are thinking about getting back in to it, but for now we're focusing on making this repair much easier (although the whole virus has put a significant delay to our V2 of repair kits with pad based adhesive - no liquid glue so S10/S10+/Note10/Note10+/A50/70/80/OnePlus/iPhone kits can be introduced without the need of taking the phone apart due to the location of the camera) Anyhow, we mention the thing about how we used to do repairs because now we do not have any special equipment like the liquid nitrogen freezing machine/auto clave at the moment that makes the process much much more efficient. The only repairs we do at the moment are for trying/discovering new tricks/tips for the repair. Because we do this in a DIY manner, and we don't have a streamlined process, we may be disappointing when it comes to pricing. We typically offer this at 120~130USD (which is now a lot more CAD due to the current exchange) but since there may not be shipping cost involved with you and the value of the repair is really not affected by the recent exchange rate hike, we can do this repair for is $140.00 cad. If the glass is broken in many pieces, I may be able to do a little bit better but not by much. If you could kindly contact us with some photos, we'd be able to firm up on the pricing. Best regards,
Hello Andy. We do not have a UK supplier but we do ship to the UK. We do ship there on a regular basis. The shipping costs the same as all other places $9.82 and it comes with full tracking. Delivery would take approximately 8~11 business days (just under 2 weeks to just over 2 weeks). The way our international shipping works, our items get handed to the local post (Royal Mail) once it lands in the country, which makes it quite convenient for our customers. Please kindly note though, due to the location the item leaves from, there will be duties/taxes. We genuinely enjoy helping our customers. Please do not hesitate to contact us if you have any more questions. Best regards,
Is there other things that can replace the isopropyl alcohol? If so can u include it in the kit too so we wouldn't have to go buy a big bottle of it in the store
Hello Nick, thank you for your comment. We are indeed working on it. The hard part is getting it to be non-conductive, while being not flammable at the same time. We do have an oil based remover developed in-house that's safe to handle with bare hands and it works just as well if not better than isopropyl alcohol for this purpose, especially for reducing the drag. The issue is that it's conductive. For now, the best method is isopropyl alcohol which can be readily purchased from local pharmacies. Best regards,
Is there any specific brands of isopropyl alcohol you recomond for the repair? And how long should you leave your phone outside once you apply the loca?
Hello, thank you for taking your time to comment. There isn't any specific brands of isopropyl alcohol I'd recommend. Isopropyl alcohol should be, chemically speaking isopropyl alcohol regardless of who makes/distributes it. As for the time it takes, that ultimately depends on your location, the season and the weather that day. On a sunny day, it tacks up in seconds and fully cures in minutes. On a cloudy winter day in February here in the Toronto area (Canada), we have timed the cure at 13 minutes with direct exposure (not bypassing a window or a screen). Since you won't be needing the full 3mL, what we ultimately recommend is that you dispense a small droplet(or droplets) on a non porous surface such as the protective film the glass is shipped in, and test-cure it or leave it the phone when you are curing it and touch it from time to time to check the process. When it's fully cured, it may feel a bit oily on the surface but it will cure to a silicone like consistency. If we can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us/ comment further. Best regards,
Hello Raul, Thank you for your comment. OCA blade is indeed re-usable, but please do kindly note that, pushing it when there is not enough heat can cause the tool to kink and when this happens many times, the tool can experience this thing called metal fatigue and slowly start losing its effectiveness. When used properly, you can do 3~4 devices with 1 OCA blade. If we can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further. Best regards,
Hi I have two questions. I was reparing tablet yesterday (tablet doesn't have glueded whole front glass but just the edges) and I was trying to separate glass from display with razor blade. But unfortunately I damaged display with razor blade, but it was not common damage. In fact I've realized that display is made from many layers. I mean about 7 or 8. And I got between some of layers of the display. So my question is if is possible to damage display of Samsung S8 by putting your oca blade to some "layers" of the display. And the second one. Can I order your product even now while there is Coronavirus? Thanks
Hello Matej, Thank you for taking your time to comment. Displays whether it be tablet or mobile phone displays, do consist of layers. The tablet displays (at least the ones out now) are slightly different in a sense that it consists of solid layers, and most likely is an LCD display with backlight and not OLED. If you saw multiple 'sheets' of what appears to be films/paper, then you likely took apart the backlight. Mainly, there are 3 layers that make up the display panel. Front glass which is what our kit is for, the digitizer which is a layer that is responsible for sensing touch, and the LCD/LED display layer which is responsible for displaying the images. In between the digitizer and LCD/LED there is also a very thin film called polarizer film which filters light but this is not considered to be an independent component, but rather a part of digitizer/display layer. As mentioned in the video as well as in the image linked here, damage can indeed be caused when the tool is inserted too deep. (bit.ly/OCABladeCaution - this image is also found linked on our repair videos before linking our store) We are keeping a close eye on the Coronavirus but we are operating and shipping items. We are seeing some delays in international shipment but otherwise, the goods are being sent and being delivered. Any further questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further. Have a great rest of the day and we hope you and the other viewers stay safe.
Most liquids are non conductive, its the things dissolved in the water that conduct electricity so distilled water is non conductive in fact if you want to test distilled water just put a multimeter in it and test resistance and if it don't even have a very high resistance then its non conductive and actually distilled water.
Hello, thank you for taking your time to comment. Shipping time to Florida is 3~4 business days via USPS First Class Mail (our free shipping) and 2~3 business days via USPS Priority. If we can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further. Best regards,
Hello Yareck, thank you for your comment! The layers are fused together and similar to how you won't be able to get the isopropyl alcohol between the front glass and the rest of the display assembly no matter how long you leave the display in a tub of alcohol (we've tried this), the glue won't sip in between the layers of the display on its own.
For Note 8, we recommend using 2.4mL. If we can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further . Best regards,
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I ordered a kit for a Samsung s8 and as I watched your videos I felt more confident with doing the repair but I have a question. The LOCA expands when/after curing? I ask this because I don't want to remove the back glass of the device and I'm planning to stretch the glue only to reach the black surface but I don't know if the curing process would expand the glue from the display to the dark area and reach the front camera or the proximity sensor (in your videos I can see that when curing the glue could leak the excess on the sides of the glass/display) so based in your experience, would you recommend to leave a little space (for example a millimeter) before reach the top dark area and leave the glue curing process expand and cover that space without reaching the front camera or the other sensors?
Hello Shamid, Thank you for taking your time to comment. The LOCA doesn't expand when curing but there's definitely a bit of a trick to not getting the glue on the front camera/sensor area. (This is definitely one of the things we'll be covering more extensively on the new video we're working on but please refer to below for a detailed tip on how to prevent glue from getting on the front camera/sensor area.) Still, the glue may get on the camera which is why we include a replacement back glass tape with every kit although we do not advertise it, to give our customers the chance to either clean the camera after, should the glue get on there or do the repair with the phone apart. You can clean it with isopropyl alcohol before or after it is cured. Our LOCA, although it is liquid, it behaves almost like a pizza dough when placed between the front glass and the screen, in a sense that it doesn't freely flow like water, it needs to be 'kneaded' and has a tendency to 'bounce' back when you let go of the pressure (this is the reason why we include metal clips with our kits to apply the pressure required to 'hold' the glue in position). So what you want to do is dispense the specified amount of glue in a dog-bone shape. If you see any bubble at this point, you may want to remove it by popping/moving it with a screwdriver. Lower the glass slowly one side at a time as shown in the video. If you get any bubbles, please do not try to lift it again as it'd introduce more bubbles. Once the glass has been lowered, simply let it sit and let gravity do the spreading. You want it to spread about 80% of the way on its own without you applying pressure. You can apply heat to help it spread on its own. You can also tilt the phone to help it spread more evenly. Once it is about 80% spread, work the bottom corners first, and then put the one of the included clips on there to hold the glue from retracting. Then do the same thing for the top left corner. When you get to the corner with the front camera, use your hands/fingers as you will have better control over the flow. When it has just reached the end of the display area (clear portion of the glass), expose it to daylight and cure it. If for example, you see that the glue is spreading more to the top before it fills the top right corner, then hold the phone horizontally with the top right corner down to have gravity help you spread more to the edge so that when you apply pressure the corner gets filled evenly. Does this make sense? If anything is unclear, please let us know.
Hello Ely, Thank you for taking your time to comment and thank you very much for your purchase! If we can be of any assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us. Wishing you a pleasant rest of the day.
Depends on the adhesive and how the frame's edge is shaped but for the most part, yes. What I personally do is use the corner of the back end of the tool (it's a stiffer and 'sharper' there) to insert it to the point I have at least a centimeter (roughly 3/8") in then create a bigger opening by twisting it slightly with my hand. Once the bigger opening is created, I slide a standard flexible metal bar-style pry tool because it's a lot better for prying purposes. Any questions/concerns, please do not hesitaet to comment further/contact us. Best regards,
Hello, Thank you for taking your time to comment. If this is happening on iPhones, are you removing the bezel off completely first? or at the very least, are you prying it up enough before inserting the tool? Please see this photo (bit.ly/OCABladeCaution) it's a diagram we have made and linked in the description section of both the videos before linking our store. If the bezel/frame is not pried far enough, it can make it difficult for the tool to be inserted correctly. Also, as shown in the video, the tip needs to be curled and you need to position it in a way that the tip is touching the underside of the glass. The glass removal process is a delicate process for sure across all devices as mentioned in the videos but the concept behind it is more or less universal. The glue layer is thicker than our OCA blade, and the OCA blade is the same thickness as the wire tool that you see readily being used on TH-cam. Heat softens the glue to make the insertion easier. Any further questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further. Best regards,
@@ecdiy yes, I remove the bezel completely, I just can’t figure out how to stay above the polarizer, I’ve been practicing on old iPhone X-11 screens trying to expand my business
As for the glass removal, the method works for S10, but when it comes to gluing, you'd have to take the phone apart because of the location of the camera being within the screen area at least for now until we finish our pad based adhesive installation tool & method. Any further questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further. Best regards,
Hello Muhammad, Thank you for taking your time to comment! We have done several and we should have a video uploaded within the next month. Any further questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us. Best regards,
How many people successfully did this without any experience with this sort of stuff before? I'm really wanting to perform this, but I'm worried I'll mess it up. I'm going to practice on a display that I'm going to remove anyway, and then I'll buy an assembly with broken glass, and then take off the glass on that one, and put new glass on it. As long as I'm very careful, do I have a decent chance of success? I'll be using a laser temperature gauge, but I'm wanting to do this with a hair dryer. Is that a good idea, or should I go with the heat gun?
Hello Mark, I apologize for the delay in my response. There is definitely a risk of messing up. I would save the repair on a live display unless you are comfortable. It is indeed a good idea to practice on a broken display. Even the ones that do not turn on, if you were to puncture it you will be able to see the bleed when you hold it at an angle under a bright light. (And this bleed, will be a black blob on a live display) Heat gun is definitely recommended. It depends on the hair dryer but you will find that with a laser temperature gauge, hair dryer takes much longer than a heat gun to heat up. To be frank, we do not believe the success rate from novices are great. At least, not as good as we want it to be. The repair unfortunately is not as easy as it looks as mentioned in the videos and we get maybe 2/3 e-mails a day (sometimes we'd have a week without receiving such email but sometimes we'd get as many as 5 in one day day) from people who don't succeed, and when we combine sales on eBay, we sell about 30~40 front glass replacement kits for curved screens, but and this is a big but, that doesn't mean that the rest of them succeed. We just do not know. It's definitely a risk because as mentioned in the video, it is more difficult than it looks. The success rate ultimately depends on how careful you can be and how closely you follow all the precautions noted in the video. One of the most common errors we see customers make is inserting the tool too deep. This is mentioned in both the videos before the start but the tip needs to be curled a little bit and be inserted in a way so that it glides just underneath the surface of the glass. We have created this image (bit.ly/OCABladeCaution) and linked it in the videos before linking our store also, and it's still an on-going issue. Any further questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further. Best regards,
Hello, my brother threw my phone and caused a crack in the top corner of the screen, there is also black ink like thing where the crack is and the touchscreen seems to freeze up when I touch the top part of the screen. Would this fix that?
Unfortunately, the front glass does not contain any electronics and replacing the front glass alone will not fix the display/digitizer issues. The black ink blob is a puncture in the display and the bleed often spreads when you go to remove the glass in that area as well. Any further questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further. Have a great rest of the day.
Hi do you think this kit would work on the LG Wing top glass display I recently cracked the top right corner and dont want to replace the original screen as replacements arent usually as high quality.
Hello, thank you for taking your time to comment! It really depends on your location. Within the US, you can expect delivery in 2~4 business days, within Canada 2~6 business days, Europe 8~13 business days, while Asia, South America, Africa and other regions, it takes anywhere from 10~16 business days (2 weeks to just over 3 weeks). If you can let us know where you are located, we'd be happy to get back to you with an estimate. If we can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us or comment further. Have a great rest of the day!
@@basketofbuckets In that case, it would take about 3~4 business days. Any further questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further. We are here to help. Have a great weekend.
@@basketofbuckets Hmm, if you are unsure/don't feel certain about it then perhaps it is best to not tackle the repair. There is a good band-aid solution that can help make the cracks much much less visible. Would you by any chance be able to send us a photo of the device through the 'contact us' page? We will be happy to take a look and confirm for you whether it would work or not. It would also give your display a much needed protection also. (Cracked screens are much more prone to getting damaged further). Best regards,
Thanks so much for this! I was hoping to be able to DIY as repair places in my country want to charge $200-$300 for it because they always replace the LCD as well. The last person I asked why they couldn't just replace the glass said because "touch wouldn't work properly after". Is this just scaremongering to get more money out of me or is there some risk to touch not being quite right after?
Hello Fah, thank you for taking your time to comment! Shipping to India is not a problem. We do ship to India on a regular basis. The shipping costs the same as all other places $9.82 and it comes with full tracking. Delivery would take approximately 12~16 business days (just over 2 weeks to just over 3 weeks). The way our international shipping works, our items get handed to the local post (India post) once it lands in the country, which makes it quite convenient for our customers. Any further questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further. Have a great rest of the day.
I need advice ive got a crack on my screeb its centered on the left middle, behind there is one tiny green dot which is not spreading should i just replace glass, or should i replacing full front (lcd and glass)
The green dot is likely a stuck pixel. I'd imagine it even glows green even when other pixels are off? (Black - in an AMOLED or any OLED for that matter, each pixel lights itself. There is no backlight, which is what allows it to have infinite contrast with 0 light bleeding). Anyhow, whether you should replace just the glass or the full display panel, that is up to you. Replacing the front glass definitely will NOT fix the green dot. It would only fix the crack as the glass does not contain any electronics.
@@ecdiy ok thanks, however my s7 edge i had a black blob on the side which spreaded slowly, do you think the green dot will soread, also thankfully the green dot cannot be seen whennthe phone is off, ane can only be seen on full brightness
Please feel free to send us an email through the contact page with a photo for us to take a look. I am not quite sure what the green dot may be at the moment. As for the black blob, is the glass around that area broken in many small pieces? It's a little difficult to say with certainty but this would be risky in your situation because more often than not, it can cause it to spread. Kindly allow us a chance to explain: The way these displays are assembled, when you apply pressure to the black area, you'd see that the black spot does not spread. However, when there is negative pressure pulling/stretching the membranes/layers of the AMOLED apart, you'd see that the black 'bleed' spread. More often than not, the black 'bleeding' would spread when you go to remove the glass by the black blob because when the tool is inserted, there will be a slight negative pressure along the edges of the tool (and a slight positive pressure under the surface of the tool) although it is super thin, does this make sense? However, if the glass is broken in many pieces around the area, you may be able to remove the glasses without causing negative pressure around the area which is what causes the spread as noted above. We have experimented quite a lot with displays with black blobs/dots "bleed" spots and this isn't to be confused with 'bruised spots' (dark gray) which are ok to work on for sure, but when it comes to pitch black dots we've had mixed results (more often than not though, it was not good). We believe it really depends on the nature and the precise location of the bleed. We know that getting the display hotter than shown in the video (between 160'F/71'C and 200'F/93'C ideally - and 160'F/71'C is just when things get too hot to touch) will also minimize the risk of it spreading because when you reach that temperature range, the OCA liquifies, and it allows the glass to be removed with much less resistance. Thank you for bringing this up. We hope we can one day be able to answer this question more definitely but If you try it out and it doesn't work out, we would be happy to cover your return shipping even if you are not in the US so you can receive a full refund.
Hello Kelly, the link to our site is found in the description section of the video. It is expertcelldiy.com but please also take a look at this update/caution we also posted in the description section bit.ly/OCABladeCaution
Hello Ram, I was able to locate your order. The tracking information was sent to you by the automated system when we shipped it, but just in case, I sent the tracking information to your email also. I do see that it has landed in Kuwait, it already cleared customs and it is headed to your local post office. You should be receiving it any day now! Any further questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further. Have a great weekend!
Unfortunately no. The only way you'd be ok with it is if you can make sure you do not turn the device on when you are working on it. This is not as easy as it sounds as you'd constantly be changing grips on the phone. If we can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us./comment further Best regards,
Hello, I would not recommend it. The way it is structured, there is a ring that's quite fragile that runs along the edges. In our video, I mention there being a sensitive flex cable at the bottom and how this repair needs to take place in a specific way that doesn't put pressure on there. I don't want to give Samsung any ideas but the Apple watch is made as though it's got that sensitive flex cable all the way around. (Technically, the cable actually runs only along 2 sides opposite to each other on the watch, but the parameter is super sensitive all the way around). Maybe when I have time I will look into it more extensively and see if there was something I was missing but as is, I would not recommend it. Any further questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further. Have a great rest of the day.
Hello Scott, thank you for taking your time to comment. The address is noted in the description section of the video. (removed the previous link as we want everyone potentially considering the kit to be able to see the clarification on how to insert the tool which we also posted in the description section) If we can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further. Have a great rest of the day.
Hello Brye. Great question. Below is pretty much a copied response we had provided previously provided: In theory, yes it should still be water resistant. The tape adhesive which provides the seal is indeed original grade. However, the LOCA process would have to be done in a very precise manner and be spread perfectly evenly in order to achieve factory spec water resistance which is 5ft submersion for 30 minutes. While this is possible, this may not be easy for a novice and the water resistance may be less, to the point it can only resist regular splashes/drops of water (IPX1~IPX5 for example. I won't be able to go over what all the ratings mean but if you google IPX rating, there is a good article written by audioreputation with the specific details for each rating). At the end of the day though, cracked screens are not water resistant either. So really, there isn't anything to lose when it comes to water resistance when replacing cracked front glass.
Hello Vincent, thank you for taking your time to comment! It isn't necessary but it's a good preventative steps to take. Kindly note that if you happen to get LOCA on the front camera area, the front camera will be blurry until you thoroughly clean it/replace it which involves removing/opening the back of the phone. Our LOCA, although it is liquid, it behaves almost like a pizza dough when placed between the front glass and the screen, in a sense that it doesn't freely flow like water, it needs to be 'kneaded' and has a tendency to 'bounce' back when you let go of the pressure (this is the reason why we include metal clips with our kits to apply the pressure required to 'hold' the glue in position). With this being said, gluing without getting the LOCA on the front camera area can be a little bit difficult for a novice to do. For this reason, our demonstration includes removing the back glass and removing the front camera and proximity sensor as a preventative measure. If we can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to comment further/contact us. Best regards,
@@leonardobrandt4016 Hello Leonardo, not a problem at all. I'm not sure if the material would be strong enough, or long enough to reach the areas you would need to reach but it might be worth a try. If you have any questions/concerns about the process, please do not hesitate to comment further/contact us. Have a great rest of the day.
Just received the kit and I am doing this on a 5 inch Sony xz2 compact. I have watermark under the LCD I need to clean. Would you recommend opening the screen first or after? I did it once with screen off and it was hella job.
Best method I ever tried for curved screen without a freezer.I used a hot plate at 90C degrees.Takes some time but definitely worth it!!!
Thank you so much for your comment! The only thing I want to note for the others is that, the hot plate is not the most efficient way to heat up the glass for this particular method.
This is because is when you set it to a set temperature, it's simply heating the heating pad to that set temperature. It takes a long time for the display on it to be brought up to that temperature. This is opposed to a heat gun or even a hair dryer where the heat coming off the tool is higher.
When you use a wire tool, the display stays on the heat pad the whole time so this loss of heat/heating cycle is not an issue. I tried to use the tool with the display on the heating pad, but it is not practical at all because the tool/hands need to be so close to the heat pad.
This is mentioned in this video but I noticed is that in room temperature, the display cools down within 10~20 seconds depending on the amount of heat that was applied, so heat needs to be applied every 10/20 seconds. It takes at least a minute or two for a display that's been cooled down to reach the temperature set on the heating pad. I'd recommend a heat-gun. It can apply heat in the area where you are working, and it only takes about 10 seconds for it to get the area hot enough.
However, I suppose the flip-side is that using a heat pad will take out the guess work/getting isopropyl alcohol to the bubbling point but for those who are looking to spend extra money in hopes of making this repair easier, I'd have to say the laser temperature gauge before the heat pad.
Thank you for sharing your experience!
@@ecdiy I also have a heatgun but since the plate already has temp display I went with it.I am gonna use the gun for my next try.
natcasseus same here. I also thought about using the hot plate. This is the best video I've ever seen since long back of the Samsung S2 phones.
@@ecdiy 18:52 applying the tapes and speaker grill doesn't seem obvious to me. I just ordered my note 9 kit. Is there a video that shows the best way to secure the ends? I assume its simply remove plastic over adhesive, apply to phone, then remove top film? does the speaker grill click in plase or is it secured by the end piece? BTW ty for seling complete kits and editing these awesome videos. I would love the option of a quality tempered glass screen protector that I could add to the kit. I'd pay an extra $5 if it came with a good screen protector that I could install at the end of the process to help protect my screen. Do your sell your repaired phones locally or on swappa/ebay? I wouldn't mind buying phones that had been repaired by experienced people if it saved me some money. I have another note 9 that has a broken display, not sure who to trust on ebay, do you or could you sell note 9 displays? Lastly it would be cool if you could recommend or sell a phone case that you feel provides reasonable protection from damage. obviously the 2 cases i had used didn't provide much protection. LOL
@@MichaelMantion Hello Michael,
Thank you for taking your time to comment and thank you very much for choosing us.
The tapes are indeed double sided adhesive and you are correct. You would peel them off the plastic film layer, apply them to the phone then peel the green protective layer off. You would want to install the front speaker grill before doing the tapes. I wouldn't say the speaker grill 'clicks' in to place but there is a precise cut-out for it. It is ultimately secured by the front glass. (There is a rim/flange on the bottom of the speaker grill that prevents it from falling out of the cut-out on the front glass).
We are happy to add a tempered glass screen protector for you. We do have several types, full glue (pad based adhesive as well as UV glue based adhesive) as well as the standard curved protectors with adhesive along the edges only.
I've been focusing on gluing techniques/methods for phones with the front camera within the display area (i.e S10/S10e/S10+) and going 'broader' in terms of models and makes rather than do the same phones for resale. Even if I were to though, I wouldn't necessarily price the repaired devices at any lower than other used devices on the market that'd have scratches on the screen/that may have had the screen replaced in the past with possibly an aftermarket display.
As for other possible repair options kindly contact us with your location and we will look into this for you.
As for the case however, it's not something we are particularly experienced in so it's not something I'd feel comfortable commenting about. From our experience though, the screen protector plays a more important role in preventing screen damages.
Any further questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Best regards,
I was hesitant on ordering a kit for my Note 8 but after watching your video and watching you taking the time to share your knowledge in great detail while trying to help us each step of the way, I went ahead and placed an order just now. Regardless of whether I succeed or not, you seem like someone who is not out to make a quick buck and genuinely cares about the product you supply and tries to help people along the way. Wish me luck!
Thank you so much for your kind words. Means a lot to us.
While I have you, I do also want to mention the most common mistake though is the tool being inserted too deep. You may have to apply a bit of pressure for the tip to stay curled as it wants to flatten out again. And it is also important to position it (lean it back) so that you can use the frame as the fulcrum to ensure the tip of the blade is touching the underside of the glass. Please see this diagram for demonstration bit.ly/OCABladeCaution (This photo is also linked in the description section of both videos before linking our store).
Any further questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further.
Best regards,
Was quoted $200 for this repair on an S10+, looks like i will be doing it myself. Thankyou for this!
How did it go?
I need to do this
i just got quoted 375 to replace the screen on my s10+ so i just ordered this. can't wait for it to come lol
@@ecismeto7 what was the outcome?
@@suvroghosh2725 ended up trading my pixel 6 for the s22 ultra so never ended up doing it lol
The repair starts at 5:45
But it's extremely important to know why it took so long before the repair starts. So Go back to 0:00 to know why.
This is the best repair guide I’ve ever watched. Thank you so much for your efforts
Temperatures mentioned in the video:
LCD Damage Occurs beyond 115C/240F
Proper Removal Temp 70C/160F to 82.5C/180F
But it is not LCD, it's OLED.
@@unliving_ball_of_gas oh well
I finally dared to do it, and it worked perfectly, thanks!
What did you use to clean the glue?
@@flamingrage100 Isopropanol 99.9% and a lot of patience :-)
@@gunterotte ok thanks Ig I’ll have to buy it hopefully I don’t screw up
Oh and how difficult was it for you to remove the glass from the screen?
@@flamingrage100 Removing the glass was quite simple (the alcohol and heat gun makes it easy), I had the most difficulties with removing the glue from the camera area.
When he says make sure to go slow, MAKE SURE TO GO SLOW. I damaged my lcd on my s7 edge by puncturing it like the examples in the video but it was my fault. I was using a hair dryer and took too long. If anyone wants to do this, invest in a heat gun and don't rush the process like I did. Take your time.
You re not the only one
It's actually OLED though, not LCD. There's a BIG difference.
The same happened to me no I have to buy the digitalizer screen :(
Thank you for the video.
4 years later I need it.
Having Lost money to bring us this knowledge make this vídeo worth all my time, thanks ,i Will share your video!
This has to be the best diy repair video I have ever watched.
Thank you so much for your kind words! Really appreciate it.
We have significantly improved our methods and tools since this video. Please ensure to check out our latest videos for the newest tips & tricks!
Have a great rest of the day!
Definitely take your time, and don't be afraid to step away for a bit if you feel frustrated. I was having a hard time getting the OCA blade in on my s9+ (probably not enough heat in hindsight, first time using a heat gun so was being overly cautious) and it's not a $30 repair anymore. Worst part is I could have practiced on a different phone that only displays random colors. Still planning to get my hands on more phones with broken screens and doing it till I get it right!
This video is very well made. Even though it's just the glass of my S9+ that is cracked, repair places are quoting me up to $300. When looking at DIY videos most of them have you disassemble the entire phone but this is the first video I've seen where the glass is taken off by itself.
I am convinced and will probably buy your kit this week. I'll let you know how it goes... I've never done this before... 😅
@@malcolmmoore9938 Hello Malcolm, thank you for taking your time to comment and thank you very much for your kind compliment! I can't say it's an easy process as noted in our videos but following every step & tip carefully and avoiding the mistakes would result in a successful repair. The price you have been getting does not seem too far off from the norm and whether you decide to purchase or not, if you have any questions/concerns regarding cracked screen repair, please do not hesitate to comment/contact us.
Have a great rest of the weekend.
@@ecdiy My DIY repair failed... 😔 I sent you a message on your site with the details
@@malcolmmoore9938 Hi. What failed? Did you break a display?
I just bought this tool and it really is amazing. Definitely can't recreate because it is insanely thin yet holds it shape just right like a spring. 10/10 would recommend buying. Not paid to say this.
What is this thin meal tool called ? Couldn't get the name on the Video. Where can one buy it?
great video and sounds like an amazing company..your customer service is refreshing
I have bought this toolset, and have to say it is harder than it looks, its very easy to make a mistake. I advise caution. As for the company, they are amazing, they will answer any questions you have and they offer refunds even when they are not obliged to. Overall very satisfied with them and can recommend 100%. Looking forward to more videos from you guys.
It worked! I really doubted my ability to complete a repair like this but it actually worked and I saved 200 bucks!
Edit: so I ended up failing to put the screen on because I didn't notice the dent in the frame that prevented the screen from fitting in. If I had known I'm sure I would've succeeded
Really love what you guys are doing here! It's an extremely well thought out product. I just have one question. Will the phone still be water proof after this repair?
Hello David,
Thank you very much for your compliment. Means a lot to us. We know we have a lot more to do.
As for the water resistance, great question! This was actually asked before. Please excuse me for a copy & paste answer:
In theory, the phone should still be water resistant. The tape adhesive which provides the seal is indeed original grade. However, the LOCA process would have to be done in a very precise manner and be spread perfectly evenly in order to achieve factory spec water resistance which is 5ft submersion for 30 minutes. While this is possible, this may not be easy for a novice and the water resistance may be less, to the point it can only resist regular splashes/drops of water (IPX1~IPX5 for example. I won't be able to go over what all the ratings mean but if you google IPX rating, there is a good article written by audioreputation with the specific details for each rating).
At the end of the day though, cracked screens are not water resistant either. So really, there isn't anything to lose when it comes to water resistance when replacing cracked front glass.
Any further questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further.
Best regards,
That makes a lot of sense. Thanks for the reply. Take care
@@ecdiy hey how much is the screen??
I've been using a 3d printer and the heated bed is ideal to use to do this repair. As said in the video a laser temperature gauge was an excellent tool
Hello Gary,
That is a neat idea! I have not thought of that. Thank you for sharing.
All the best,
Man, this is awesome idea. Thanks!
Man, man, man what kind of guy would I be if I don’t like this video, thanks bro. My phone has a little chip on the edge, u can hardly recognize it but it troubles me, thanks a million for going into the details
Not a problem at all. If the chip is hardly noticeable, then you may want to weigh the risk vs reward. I would have to see a photo to confirm this but a screen that's a little chipped on the edge so that it's hardly noticeable isn't necessarily vulnerable to being damaged further like most cracked screens are. (Once the structural integrity of the glass is gone, the display itself can easily be damaged)
I'd also like to remind you that the repair isn't as easy as it seems in the video as mentioned multiple times in the video. If a mistake is made the display can be damaged. Something you may want to consider.
Any questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further.
Have a great rest of the day.
Thanks for such a detailed guide, all the other guides I watched I was convinced it was easy.. now I realise its not and I wont bother now!
It is indeed not an easy repair as mentioned in the video multiple times. It is a delicate process and an error can result in permanent display damage.
As with any difficult task however, when you do succeed it is very rewarding but definitely the risks need to be weighed.
Thank you for your comment!
I ordered a few of the products from the site. Excellent product customer service.
Thank you so much for your kind words! Wishing you & your family a Happy New Year!
Did anyone buy the kit? Did it work?
You are the best sir i have watched hundreds of videos from several days and i got complete and excellent 100% working method only in your video. Thanks a lot
Not a problem at all! Thank you for the compliment.
If we can be of any assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further.
Best regards
Haven't been able to do this since S3 days!
I just ordered my S8 kit. Thanks for the video and insight, it will help on my first phone repair.
Hi Evan, watching this on my cracked s9... was just curious how you got on? How hard did you find, did you cause any damage? Just before I buy
Louie just take your time. My glass was shattered with some pieces missing so that made it a lot easier. No extra damage but that’s because my glass was pretty bad. Main thing is take your time, he says 2 I think I did it in 4-5 hours. Take your time and watch this video in order as you do the work. Kit is his description and for a reasonable price
How do I place the order please ?
S9Plus cracked this morning
Mo Tanamly check the description for website
Hi evan, just wondering if you used any heat? I've ordered on for my s9. My screen is cracked to tiny pieces on the bottom left and also a little on the top right. I'm uncertain how to start getting the tool under the glass. Thank you for sharing.
your short video said on the full video you would show removing glass with a lot of pieces instead of removing one whole glass piece at once
Thanks for a very inormative and helpful video! I really appreciate that you pointed out the pitfalls.
One question I have is that some use a wire instead of a prying tool to remove the front glass. Is there a reason why you prefer a prying tool in favor a wire?
Hello Rasmuss,
Wire tool is a good method as well. However, it does definitely have its own precautions. It's easier for flat displays but for curved displays, it can be easy to damage the display with the wire tool as well.
Furthermore, as it requires both hands to operate, you'd also need someone/something to hold the device such as the heat pad with built in suction.
We do plan on covering the wire tool method as well. There is actually a way to use both the wire tool and our tool together which can save some time.
Any further questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further.
Best regards,
Best glass repair video I've seen by far! I'm tempted to try this on my Note 8, however I'm concerned at how risky the process actually is. Do you have any info about the actual (percentage?) chance of failure if I were to attempt it? I would not want to instantly destroy my phone!
Thank you for your comment. It's difficult for us to estimate because this new patent pending tool and method, which we know for sure makes the process much easier than the conventional method, is new and we do not have enough sales to calculate the odds of failure vs. success.
It's also really difficult for us to try and calculate this figure because generally speaking, the vast majority of the customers don't end up contacting us after receiving the item. This could be because they succeeded and everything went as planned but we do get messages from customers who don't succeed from time to time in which case we ask for more information as to how/when it failed so we can see if we missed anything and offer a full refund despite the tool and some of the contents having been used.
However, we have been doing this for a very long time to know that as long as all the steps are followed carefully, and the common mistakes (tool jumping, carving the edges, speaker grill/loose piece of glass getting lodged) noted and demonstrated in the video before the start of the actual repair are avoided, you should not have a problem.
As with any DIY projects whether it be car repair or home renovation, there is an element of risk when you dive into a new DIY project. Similar to how a home hardware store can provide you with all the tools and material to make the job/renovation easier but cannot guarantee success, we can only provide the tools and the material to do the job.
@@ecdiy Thanks for the help! I think I shall be attempting the repair after all 👍
@@benmarsden7655 how did it go?
@@shimmyjamily Not great, I accidentally cut through the corner and damaged the LCD. Sold the phone as broken again on Ebay but lost £50 in total. It's kinda harder than it looks, and as I wanted to do it to earn money I swapped to replacing iPhone screens (and frames) and so far my first phone (6s) had earned me the £50 back! I have no idea your reasons to do it but If you can I would really avoid trying this yourself.
@@benmarsden7655 thanks so much for the reply. I was just hoping to do this for my personal phone.
this is good i have tryed on already riuned oleds and if you touch it on the edge it makes a black mark but i have got them off with out making more damage. The first thing is to get your tool between glass and oled once you get that it not so hard just keep heatting and push but take your time. i learnt the hard hard way i try the edges.
how thin is this tool?
and can I use it to remove the Amoled from the mid frame?
Hello Abbas, thank you for your comment. You can indeed use the tool to remove the AMOLED from the mid frame.
We realize it wouldn't be difficult to find out but we seek your kind understanding in that at this moment, we are not prepared to publicly disclose the thickness of the tool.
If we can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to comment/contact us.
Have a great rest of the day!
@@ecdiy I'm curious as of why not? Since anyone could buy it and just measure it with a caliper
Super informative! Thanks I've purchased the kit!
Not a problem at all! Thank you for your purchase!
Any questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further.
Have a great rest of the day!
@@ecdiy Hey, do I necessarily need the razor blade, or can I use a normal cutter blade to make the gap? I want to buy the OCA Blade, im from Germany. Greetings
Will this work on note 9? Will I have to disassemble the phone as shown in other tutorials?
Thank you for your comment! I had responded to the other comment of yours but the process is the same for a Note 9. You may do the repair without opening the phone, but please kindly note that if you happen to get the glue in the front camera area, the photo may be blurry until you take the phone apart to clean the front camera thoroughly or replace it.
I'm a very novice DIYer and don't have the confidence to pull off something this delicate with something I really care about, but it seems you guys have a solid method and the perfect finesse down. Is there any way I could send in my phone to you guys to complete this process for me by paying you?
Hello Jason,
Thank you for your comment!
It isn't something we offer as a service yet, but we do plan on offering it in the near future and it may be able to arrange it for you now.
Kindly contact us through the 'contact us' page so we can assist you further.
Best regards,
Hey there, I noticed when watching other videos on glass only replacements that when the glass is removed, the lcd layer looks wavy. It does not appear to go away even after the new glass is applied. Will this be the case with these tools?
The wave/ripple effect is caused by a combination of a couple of things:
One is too much pressure during the LOCA process. The reason we mention to let the LOCA spread on its own as much as possible before 'stretching' it out is due to this reason. It should be about 80% filled on its own. It will spread on its own with just the weight of the glass and you can use hair dryer/heat gun to speed up the process as the heat helps lower the viscosity. Pressing to start the spreading from the get go can indeed create 'pockets' especially one around the battery where the metal frame isn't supporting the display
The second is pressure during the cleaning process. This wave is experienced by even people doing the repair without the OCA blade and LOCA (using OCA films) and many believe it to be the OCA film's fault, but the same 'pockets' mentioned above can be created if you also apply too much pressure during the cleaning process. This comes up most often as an impression of the battery area being visible.
If we can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further.
Have a great rest of the day.
@@ecdiy Hi, I have this wave after cleaning. Is it some way to step up these waves? Thanks
Came across your kit on Google and it looks like your don't have a video for galaxy note 8 yet. I was curious if it's the same principal as the s8?
Hello Devon,
Thank you for your comment! Whether it is Note 8 or Note 9, the principal is the exact same.
If we can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to comment further/contact us.
Have a great rest of the day.
do you have a video or kit for the back glass
We don't have our own video for the back glass replacement at the moment but we do have a repair guide for the process. We also have back glasses for sale. Kindly contact us for further details.
Have a great weekend!
Bought the S8 Kit yesterday, Let's see how it goes when it arrives!
Do you have a kit for S7 edge?
We do, we just don't have a listing up for it at the moment because we as ExpertCellDIY try to only sell items we have our own video instructions for. The process is the same and we can send you a direct invoice for you to make a purchase.
Kindly contact us through the "contact" page on our website.
Thank you.
Would this work for a note 9?
Hello Zain, yes it would. The process is the exact same for Note 8 and Note 9. You'd use 2.5mL of LOCA for those phones.
If we can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to comment further/contact us.
Best regards,
A good video.
Would you be able to give me an estimate on how long shipping would take to the UK? (I am aware of customs import taxes).
I am hesitant to buy from auction websites as I have not found a kit that comes with a tutorial video.
Hello Lawrence, thank you for your comment and thank you very much for your compliment!
Shipping to the UK generally takes about 8~11 business days (just over 1.5 weeks to just over 2 weeks). However, we seek your kind understanding in that the delivery time is not something we can guarantee because from time to time, the items do get delayed due to customs/weather along the way.
If we can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment.
Have a great rest of the day!
@@ecdiy Thank you for your reply. Do you sell the Back glass in case that happens to break during removal (or at a later date)? Did I see in some of your alternate ebay listings (under expresscelldepot) that you used to?
Nice work. I like that you couple the kit with oem glass too.
Been meaning to replace my S9 glass, just put in my order. I've never worked on a phone but this should make it easier
Hello, thank you for your comment! This does make it easier but as noted in the video, it is not an easy repair. If you happen to change your mind and wish to return the item, please let us know.
Any questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Best regards,
Could you share your experience?
@@nickglenn4946 I'll post again once its done
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@@majorgeneralsherman1348 I'm curious how lucky you were? I am hoping by now you had done the repair and it was successful.
Thanks. I'm going to order the kit tonight and give it a shot.
Not a problem at all.
Thank you very much for your purchase!
If you have any questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to comment further or contact us.
Have a great rest of the day!
Hi, that's a great video! Good job!
I'm kinda excited that because of Your video and the screen repair kit (which I'm going to order soon) I feel like I would be able to fix it myself :)
BUT the thing is I'm a little bit worried about LOCA getting into the front camera/proximity sensor area. Would You advise me how to avoid LOCA getting there? I also don't want to remove the back glass....
Hello Kuba, I am not sure how I missed this. I am very sorry. This has been briefly discussed in another response so I am going to be copying some parts of the response from it and add in more details to give you a better idea.
Our LOCA, although it is liquid, it behaves almost like a pizza dough when placed between the front glass and the screen, in a sense that it doesn't freely flow like water, it needs to be 'kneaded' and has a tendency to 'bounce' back when you let go of the pressure (this is the reason why we include metal clips with our kits to apply the pressure required to 'hold' the glue in position).
So what you want to do is dispense the glue in a dog-bone shape and lower the glass slowly as shown in the video. Once the glass has been lowered, simply let it sit and let gravity do the spreading. You want it to spread about 80% of the way on its own without you applying pressure. You can apply heat to help it spread on its own. You can also tilt the phone to help it spread more evenly. Once it is about 80% spread, work the bottom corners first, and then put the included clips on there to hold the glue from retracting further. Then do the same thing for the top left corner. When you get to the corner with the front camera, use your hands/fingers as you will have better control over the flow. When it has just reached the end of the display area (clear portion of the glass), expose it to daylight and cure it.
With this being said, gluing without getting the LOCA on the front camera area can be a little bit difficult for a novice to do. For this reason, our demonstration includes removing the back glass and removing the front camera and proximity sensor as a preventative measure.
Any further questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further.
Best regards,
I cant seem to find the kit on your site, perhaps you could post a link?
Hello David, thank you for your interest. May I ask which kit you are looking for? The kits can be found on both the main page at the bottom or by clicking "S8/S9/Plus/Note 8/9 Repair Kits" from the navigation bar.
Any further questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further.
Best regards,
my bad, I think I might have been looking at the wrong site, I found it, thanks.
Can you do it for me ? Like i can send you my phone and all the charges?
Hello Krupalsinh, thank you for taking your time to comment. We are not offering repairs as a service just yet but we can definitely do it for you(Please see the edit below). Kindly send contact us with the details (the model, your location) using the contact page on our website and we will get back to you promptly.
If we can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further.
Have a great day!
**Edit: Aug 27** We have been getting quite a few inquiries regarding mail-in-repair. We sincerely apologize but we realized taking on this endeavor may be too much for us at the moment. We are currently quite occupied with a few tasks: developing a non conductive adhesive remover that is oil-based (non flammable so that we can ship it along with our kit, eliminating the need for isopropyl alcohol), experimenting to find out the best way to glue the glass down on S10/S10e/S10+ are our 2 main priorities. Note 8 video has been put on hold because we feel that we are so close, and we want to be able to feature it in the new video. It may not work out and we may end up having to put up the videos without the adhesive remover but the point is, is that as much as we want to help, taking on this endeavor will only distract us.
Furthermore, as we have sold our liquid nitrogen freezer/autoclave/laminator machine time ago when we started focusing on DIY repairs, we would have been doing the repair in the same DIY manner without special equipment. As a result, we found our price to do the repair would not even have been competitive so us doing the repair would not have been any help at all.
Hello,could i youse ipa to make the process easier or would it damage my phone ?
Hello, thank you for taking your time to comment. I am not sure if I understand you correctly but I will take a shot at responding. If you are wondering if isopropyl alcohol is safe to use, it is what we recommend that you use. We did a number of experiments one including dipping a phone in 99% isopropyl alcohol with both the front and back glass removed with the phone on for 15 minutes. It was fully submerged and the phone worked without an issue after.
If you would like to see screenshots from the experiment video, please kindly contact us. We do plan on having the video uploaded on here soon as well.
If we can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to comment further/contact us.
Best regards,
@@ecdiy Indian Pale Ale. He is just joking.
I really want to replace the glass on my s8 but it kinda scares me tbh
Same tho
Not just you...me too
@@nickglenn4946 i already try it and my s8 lcd is broken already😫😭😭😭😭😭😭.really regret
@@therealguy5424 damn...im sorry for your lost...i think ill just buy the parts and ask some 3rd party store
@sfrhn Did you use the same kit and method shown in this video?
hi, so i am about to start fixing my phone, i got the kit and everything. ita sunny today so thats a go for me.
anyway, my phone back is cracked and i cant seem to find a cheap one to replace it.
so i was wondering any tips on how to spread the loca without removing the front camera , i really need my front camera to work well.
is there a trick to do this without needing to replace the front camrea. and not cause it to be foggy?
Hello Fahad,
We can arrange a back glass for you if you would like. Kindly contact us.
As for avoiding glue from getting into the camera area, we actually have new tapes that surrounds the areas to protect them. We have been shipping all kits with the new tapes for a few weeks now but it's still not a complete seal and precautions should be followed. Below is the tip for avoiding glue from getting into the front camera/sensor area.
Our LOCA, although it is liquid, it behaves almost like a pizza dough/jelly when placed between the front glass and the screen, in a sense that it doesn't freely flow like water, it needs to be 'kneaded' and has a tendency to 'bounce' back when you let go of the pressure (this is the reason why we include metal clips with our kits to apply the pressure required to 'hold' the glue in position).
So what you want to do is dispense the specified amount of glue in a dog-bone shape. If you see any bubble at this point, you may want to remove it by popping/moving it with a screwdriver. Lower the glass slowly one side at a time as shown in the video. If you get any bubbles, please do not try to lift it again as it'd introduce more bubbles. Once the glass has been lowered, simply let it sit and let gravity do the spreading. You want it to spread about 80% of the way on its own without you applying pressure. You can apply heat to help it spread on its own. You can also tilt the phone to help it spread more evenly. Once it is about 80% spread, work the bottom corners first, and then put the one of the included clips on there to hold the glue from retracting. Then do the same thing for the top left corner. When you get to the corner with the front camera, use your hands/fingers as you will have better control over the flow. When it has just reached the end of the display area (clear portion of the glass), expose it to daylight and cure it.
If for example, you see that the glue is spreading more to the top before it fills the top right corner, then hold the phone horizontally with the top right corner down to have gravity help you spread more to the edge so that when you apply pressure the corner gets filled evenly. Does this make sense? If anything is unclear, please let us know.
Hi, I've seen deliveries in Europe as long as it takes for the product to reach me.
Hello, thank you for your comment. I sincerely apologize but I am not sure if I'm understanding you correctly. Are you by any chance referring to an order you have placed?
We do ship to Europe, and it typically takes 8~12 business days (just over 1.5 weeks to just over 2 weeks).
If you are having any issue with your purchase, kindly contact us/leave a comment and we will assist you promptly.
Can I use 91% isopropyl? it isn't with distilled water
Hello Mike, thank you for your comment! If it isn't distilled water, I'd definitely not use it as it can cause a short. if I were you, I'd look for 99% isopropyl alcohol.
@@ecdiy Wow, thanks for your fast response. What if I take the screen off while the phone is powered down?
@@msmith7341 Not a problem at all. It is the least we can do. If you take the screen off while the phone is powered down, it is not a problem. However, speaking from experience it can be difficult to ensure your finger doesn't accidentally press the power button during the repair as you'd frequently be adjusting the grips on the device during the glass removal process.
Any further questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further. We are here to help.
Have a great rest of the day.
best video ever.
can you tell me how to prevent loca from going near the sensors and camera? and I don't want to remove the back glass and break my seal.
thank you
Thank you for taking your time to comment. Please refer to the below tips on how to avoid glue from getting on the camera/sensors. Still, the glue may get on the camera which is why we include a replacement back glass tape with every kit although we do not advertise it, to give our customers the chance to either clean the camera after, should the glue get on there or do the repair with the phone apart.
Our LOCA, although it is liquid, it behaves almost like a pizza dough when placed between the front glass and the screen, in a sense that it doesn't freely flow like water, it needs to be 'kneaded' and has a tendency to 'bounce' back when you let go of the pressure (this is the reason why we include metal clips with our kits to apply the pressure required to 'hold' the glue in position).
So what you want to do is dispense the specified amount of glue in a dog-bone shape. If you see any bubble at this point, you may want to remove it by popping/moving it with a screwdriver. Lower the glass slowly one side at a time as shown in the video. If you get any bubbles, please do not try to lift it again as it'd introduce more bubbles. Once the glass has been lowered, simply let it sit and let gravity do the spreading. You want it to spread about 80% of the way on its own without you applying pressure. You can apply heat to help it spread on its own. You can also tilt the phone to help it spread more evenly. Once it is about 80% spread, work the bottom corners first, and then put the one of the included clips on there to hold the glue from retracting. Then do the same thing for the top left corner. When you get to the corner with the front camera, use your hands/fingers as you will have better control over the flow. When it has just reached the end of the display area (clear portion of the glass), expose it to daylight and cure it.
If for example, you see that the glue is spreading more to the top before it fills the top right corner, then hold the phone horizontally with the top right corner down to have gravity help you spread more to the edge so that when you apply pressure the corner gets filled evenly. Does this make sense? If anything is unclear, please let us know.
Any further questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further. Best regards,
Can I do it on a Samsung s10e?
As for the glass removal, the method works for S10e, but when it comes to gluing, you'd have to take the phone apart because of the location of the camera being within the screen area, at least for now until we finish our pad based adhesive installation tool & method.
@@ecdiy any progress on this? I'm thinking to use this to an s10+
Dry ice is good for remove glass
I disagree. ONly because in my humid environment everything will get super wet and likely damage the item in the long term. I guess if you live in a dry climate it may not be a huge concern.
@@MichaelMantion I disagree! No problems if you totally dismantle, take the innards out so its only the screen assembly that makes contact with the ice.
On some phones dry ice is great for removing the screen, the Loca glue becomes brittle and the screen separates from the digitizer easily. You don't have to worry about condinsation, as the dry ice melts it doesn't turn to a liquid but turns to a gas. In some cases dry ice is better than heat.
Just bought Galaxy S8 for dirt cheap with cracked screen only hope this method will work for me and I'll hope to have my S8 like new! :)
Sounds great! We are here to help. If you have any questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Best regards,
Man I'm just thinking about doing this one. But I don't wanna mess my phone cause it's my daily driver.
Gonz Espinosa back up your phone first using smart switch. If anything goes wrong you can restore the back up to your new phone if anything goes wrong. To fix Samsung phone screens are not cheap.
@@paulzac5481 the main thing is I don't have another phone yet jajajjaja, but maybe when changing this one I'll give it a try
Does the percentage of isopropyl alcohol that we clean with matter? I'm not able to get 99% lately, though I do have 91%. Thanks!
Hello Andrew,
Does it say "distilled water" or "purified water" under inactive ingredients? If so, it should work but I do want to also point out that 3 customers over the past year have had an issue with 91% isopropyl alcohol made by "Equate" (Despite claiming "purified water". The odd thing is, is the same bottle in Canada says just "water" under inactive ingredient). We can't confirm for sure if the problems were both indeed caused during the cleaning process but it was odd that they were both using Equate & Walgreens brand isopropyl alcohol and the symptoms mimicked that of a water damage.
However, at the end of the day even if you use lower percentage isopropyl alcohol like 70%/60% if you can avoid turning the device on until it is completely evaporated then there isn't any risk. The problem is, when you are constantly switching grips during the cleaning process, it is easy to accidentally hit the power button.
There are several sellers online who sell designated LOCA cleaners for screen refurbishing but we are not able to ship them due to shipping restrictions with our carrier as well as our forwarder/distributor (no flammable goods). A customer did note though, that wiping the display with lighter fluid does do a good job at removing stubborn bits of residual LOCA.
We have tried a few other household items but have yet to find a good alternative, (but coconut oil does work really well for the lubrication part so you can use it for the glass removal, and it's not conductive - technically speaking it is but the conductivity is so low that it's negligible, just like the 99% IPA. So you can use it to remove the glass then use the lower percentage isopropyl alcohol for the cleaning part. It's not too difficult to not accidentally turn the phone on during the cleaning part)
Any further questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further.
@@ecdiy You really go above and beyond with your support. Thank you so much. I've had my kit from you guys for a few weeks and have just been putting off using it because of the holidays, but I'm going to proceed in the next day or two. I do have some of the Equate brand which does list just water as the inactive ingredient, but I also have another that lists purified water. Either way, I'll proceed cautiously with the device off and handle it carefully during the cleaning. Thanks again for your reply and all the information!
"Who the f ck are you?" Broh the more perfect video a perfectionist as my self can finaly enjoy! If you don't have perfectionism... tham you are an another level!
Your grammar disagrees with you about being a perfectionist.
@@joryharris8002 I LOL'd so hard on this one..
@@joryharris8002 ...and his/her spelling :-)
@@shelbukowski1443 :It's" (watch your pronouns) LMAO
Will does be suitable for s20?
Hello Alex,
Thank you for taking your time to comment!
Yes indeed, you can use this tool and method on an S20.
There is enough room for the razor blade to pry without damaging the screen but there is indeed less margin for error. Please see bit.ly/S10razorlift (S10 shown as an example but the same applies).
We've had customers who reported applying more heat than usual and using a suction cup (included) instead of a razor to create the initial insertion gap with success. (You may need to put packaging tape on the glass to maximize suction if the glass is cracked atop)
The glass removal process is a delicate process for sure across all devices as mentioned in the videos but the concept behind it is more or less universal. The glue layer is thicker than our OCA blade, and the OCA blade is the same thickness as the wire tool that you see readily being used on TH-cam. Heat softens the glue to make the insertion easier.
So for other phones as well, if you see a video that's a confirmation that this method will work (but as mentioned above, almost every smartphone these days have displays that are assembled the same way and the same method can apply)
Please be aware though, that because of the location of the front camera, you'd want to remove the back glass and remove the front camera before doing the gluing.
Any further questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further.
Best regards,
lmao I'm gunna use my volcano weed vaporizer... it does blow hot air afterall, setting 4 of 9 is 166 degree Celsius hahahaha... 5 is 178.... perfect 🥰
Stoner engineering but it's not even for weed anymore ... Best part is you can fill a bag afterwards haha or before.
"hold up iphone need to preheat it"
Would this work on the s21, and also could I still use the general loca and uv light.
Thanks
Hello Imaan,
Thank you for taking your time to comment.
The tool and the method for the glass removal works as shown on S21. The difference though, would be that the back glass does need to be removed in order to remove the front camera during the gluing due to the location of it.
Some of the customers expressed concern about doing the initial lifting of the display but there is enough room for the razor blade to pry without damaging the screen. Please see bit.ly/S10razorlift (S10 shown as an example but the same actually applies for all newer models).
We do have all the parts to put together a kit for S21 for $29.21. If you are interested, please contact us.
If we can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to comment further/contact us.
Have a great rest of the day.
@@ecdiy Thank you very much for the response, was wondering as I purchased the XL Oca Blade a while back and was wondering if it could be used on the s21.
This has been a great help.
...time to start flipping phones.
You'll need to get them at a very cheap price not eBay prices. Most phones will have broken screens or burn images to LCD then it wont be viable to buy and make a profit. Did this years ago. Things changed now you have password locks on them Google ID locks etc. all time consuming.
Any luck?
Paul Zac Honestly for a lot of phones it’s fairly easy to remove the the google lock or the frp. Although I totally agree with the statement that eBay prices won’t work. The screen burn phones are only fixable by replacing the lcd.
@@speedbird180 so where else do you buy used phones?
Hi,
I just purchased one of your repair kits for the galaxy s9. I've trawled through the comments to try and find hoe many people have successfully repaired their phone using this method. Is there any reviews I can find? I'm a little anxious but I have an old S8 that already has a damaged lcd so I'll have a practice before I try and tackel my S9... Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers
Hello, thank you for choosing us! I sincerely apologize for the delay in my response. Practicing on an old phone will definitely help because even when the LCD is dead, you will be able to know if you make any mistake. Whether it be inserting the tool too deep, causing a puncture/bleed. (A bleed on a dead display will show as an almost brown color)
In terms of reviews, we do have some on our site. Both successes as well as fails.
We do want everyone to be able to succeed but unfortunately, we do have customers who fail and send us a message without writing a review also and we are continuing our experiments to look for easier methods/tricks.
If we can be of any assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further.
Best regards,
What do you think of people using dry ice and a heat gun to first heat it up then make it really cold the heat it back up to loosen the adhesive much easier
Edit:Also possibly would it be good to have someone else with both the heat gun and temperature gauge to toggle the heat gun on and off to keep it at the right temperature for the entire repair?. Also I've been told that it isnt good for the phone to be that hot while still on do I need to remove the screen first?
Hello Chris,
Thank you for taking your time to comment.
I am not quite sure of using dry ice and a heat gun together. It's usually that dry ice is used to freeze the adhesive and remove the glass that way. However, when it comes to freezing, there is definitely a learning curve with it. I know in videos it seems like once you freeze it, you can just twist/pop it off but it is a very delicate process nonetheless. As a popular TH-camr "JerryRigEverything" says, it's like trying to twist a dorito without cracking it.
There is a good video that explains about the downsides of freezing. Here is the link: th-cam.com/video/9MS4zG4blo4/w-d-xo.html
As for toggling the heat gun on and off, it may be a good way to keep the display at a constant temperature but I think you will lose more speed that way, unless you have someone that can help you manage the heat gun & temperature gauge while you do the repair
You do not need to remove the screen first. When you are talking 180'F/82'C which is the upper end of the recommended temperature range, this actually isn't an extreme scenario for the phone to be in. The phone being on the dash/seat/windshield suction cup holder type device on a hot day will get the phone close to that heat. In short, it is something the phone is engineered to withstand.
Any further questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further.
Have a great rest of the day.
Hi, so i have an s9 and it's pretty shattered do you recommend buying a tempered glass protector and apply it before starting the repair to reduce the possibility of damaging the screen? Or cellotaping the screen. Let me know. Thanks
Hello Sallek,
I have tried both methods several times since the video was uploaded and I find that the tape works a little better because it is more resilient and you can wrap it around the phone also to hold it tighter.
If we can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further.
Best regards,
@@ecdiy Firstly thanks for responding so quickly but I'm a little confused, by wrapping the tape around the phone wouldn't that hold the front glass on the phone, isn't our goal to remove the front glass. If you can could you also explain why you said in the video, that a phone with a more shattered screen is easier to fix? As you also said there is a higher chance for the glass to bend inward and damage the oled. Thanks again and sorry to make this question so long.
@@sallekmo The goal is indeed to remove the front glass. What wrapping the tape does, is prevent the tool from lifting and causing a teeter totter effect on a piece of glass that's not fully removed which may be sharp on one end as demonstrated in the video and as you mentioned.
You would unwrap the tape as you remove more glass so there isn't as much resistance on the tool as there would be if you were removing the glass as 1 piece.
Having glass in many pieces allow you to remove it more easily as the tool will experience much less drag. The risk is the glass lifting as you mentioned is minimized by wrapping the tape.
Any further questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further.
Best regards,
@@ecdiy sorry one last question as I am attempting the repair tomorrow, would you recommend heating the phone before putting the tape on or afterwards. Thanks again really appreciate it
@@sallekmo Not a problem at all! Please do not feel bad about asking questions. We are here to help.
To answer your question though, you would apply the tape before heating the phone.
Any further questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further.
Best regards,
I see that you guy are based in Toronto I live in mississauga! How much would it cost to have my Samsung Galaxy s8+ glass repaired?
What are the odds! We are actually in Mississauga as well. We can do it for you.
We used to refurbish displays exclusively, (around the time S3 was out) but as DIY methods/repairs started getting much more popular, we got out of the business and started selling kits. The trend now is reversing due to the curved screens making it more time consuming/finicky. We are thinking about getting back in to it, but for now we're focusing on making this repair much easier (although the whole virus has put a significant delay to our V2 of repair kits with pad based adhesive - no liquid glue so S10/S10+/Note10/Note10+/A50/70/80/OnePlus/iPhone kits can be introduced without the need of taking the phone apart due to the location of the camera)
Anyhow, we mention the thing about how we used to do repairs because now we do not have any special equipment like the liquid nitrogen freezing machine/auto clave at the moment that makes the process much much more efficient.
The only repairs we do at the moment are for trying/discovering new tricks/tips for the repair. Because we do this in a DIY manner, and we don't have a streamlined process, we may be disappointing when it comes to pricing. We typically offer this at 120~130USD (which is now a lot more CAD due to the current exchange) but since there may not be shipping cost involved with you and the value of the repair is really not affected by the recent exchange rate hike, we can do this repair for is $140.00 cad. If the glass is broken in many pieces, I may be able to do a little bit better but not by much. If you could kindly contact us with some photos, we'd be able to firm up on the pricing.
Best regards,
@ECDiy do you have a UK supplier or ship to the UK?
Hello Andy.
We do not have a UK supplier but we do ship to the UK. We do ship there on a regular basis. The shipping costs the same as all other places $9.82 and it comes with full tracking. Delivery would take approximately 8~11 business days (just under 2 weeks to just over 2 weeks).
The way our international shipping works, our items get handed to the local post (Royal Mail) once it lands in the country, which makes it quite convenient for our customers.
Please kindly note though, due to the location the item leaves from, there will be duties/taxes.
We genuinely enjoy helping our customers. Please do not hesitate to contact us if you have any more questions.
Best regards,
@@ecdiy Fantastic, will order shortly. Many thanks.
Is there other things that can replace the isopropyl alcohol? If so can u include it in the kit too so we wouldn't have to go buy a big bottle of it in the store
Hello Nick, thank you for your comment. We are indeed working on it. The hard part is getting it to be non-conductive, while being not flammable at the same time. We do have an oil based remover developed in-house that's safe to handle with bare hands and it works just as well if not better than isopropyl alcohol for this purpose, especially for reducing the drag. The issue is that it's conductive. For now, the best method is isopropyl alcohol which can be readily purchased from local pharmacies.
Best regards,
Is there any specific brands of isopropyl alcohol you recomond for the repair? And how long should you leave your phone outside once you apply the loca?
Hello, thank you for taking your time to comment. There isn't any specific brands of isopropyl alcohol I'd recommend. Isopropyl alcohol should be, chemically speaking isopropyl alcohol regardless of who makes/distributes it.
As for the time it takes, that ultimately depends on your location, the season and the weather that day. On a sunny day, it tacks up in seconds and fully cures in minutes. On a cloudy winter day in February here in the Toronto area (Canada), we have timed the cure at 13 minutes with direct exposure (not bypassing a window or a screen).
Since you won't be needing the full 3mL, what we ultimately recommend is that you dispense a small droplet(or droplets) on a non porous surface such as the protective film the glass is shipped in, and test-cure it or leave it the phone when you are curing it and touch it from time to time to check the process.
When it's fully cured, it may feel a bit oily on the surface but it will cure to a silicone like consistency.
If we can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us/ comment further.
Best regards,
Can oca blade be reusable or I should buy another if I want to repair another phone?
Hello Raul,
Thank you for your comment. OCA blade is indeed re-usable, but please do kindly note that, pushing it when there is not enough heat can cause the tool to kink and when this happens many times, the tool can experience this thing called metal fatigue and slowly start losing its effectiveness. When used properly, you can do 3~4 devices with 1 OCA blade.
If we can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further.
Best regards,
Hi I have two questions.
I was reparing tablet yesterday (tablet doesn't have glueded whole front glass but just the edges) and I was trying to separate glass from display with razor blade. But unfortunately I damaged display with razor blade, but it was not common damage. In fact I've realized that display is made from many layers. I mean about 7 or 8. And I got between some of layers of the display.
So my question is if is possible to damage display of Samsung S8 by putting your oca blade to some "layers" of the display. And the second one. Can I order your product even now while there is Coronavirus? Thanks
Hello Matej,
Thank you for taking your time to comment.
Displays whether it be tablet or mobile phone displays, do consist of layers.
The tablet displays (at least the ones out now) are slightly different in a sense that it consists of solid layers, and most likely is an LCD display with backlight and not OLED. If you saw multiple 'sheets' of what appears to be films/paper, then you likely took apart the backlight.
Mainly, there are 3 layers that make up the display panel. Front glass which is what our kit is for, the digitizer which is a layer that is responsible for sensing touch, and the LCD/LED display layer which is responsible for displaying the images. In between the digitizer and LCD/LED there is also a very thin film called polarizer film which filters light but this is not considered to be an independent component, but rather a part of digitizer/display layer.
As mentioned in the video as well as in the image linked here, damage can indeed be caused when the tool is inserted too deep. (bit.ly/OCABladeCaution - this image is also found linked on our repair videos before linking our store)
We are keeping a close eye on the Coronavirus but we are operating and shipping items. We are seeing some delays in international shipment but otherwise, the goods are being sent and being delivered.
Any further questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further.
Have a great rest of the day and we hope you and the other viewers stay safe.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge !
Not a problem at all!
Most liquids are non conductive, its the things dissolved in the water that conduct electricity so distilled water is non conductive in fact if you want to test distilled water just put a multimeter in it and test resistance and if it don't even have a very high resistance then its non conductive and actually distilled water.
How long will it take to get to florida im very intrested in this product but im kinda ina time crunch to get my phone fixed
Hello, thank you for taking your time to comment. Shipping time to Florida is 3~4 business days via USPS First Class Mail (our free shipping) and 2~3 business days via USPS Priority.
If we can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further.
Best regards,
What about loca glue sipping inside the display? Between those layers of lcd.
Does that happen?
Hello Yareck, thank you for your comment! The layers are fused together and similar to how you won't be able to get the isopropyl alcohol between the front glass and the rest of the display assembly no matter how long you leave the display in a tub of alcohol (we've tried this), the glue won't sip in between the layers of the display on its own.
how much glue would you suggest for a note 8?
For Note 8, we recommend using 2.4mL.
If we can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further
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Best regards,
I ordered a kit for a Samsung s8 and as I watched your videos I felt more confident with doing the repair but I have a question. The LOCA expands when/after curing? I ask this because I don't want to remove the back glass of the device and I'm planning to stretch the glue only to reach the black surface but I don't know if the curing process would expand the glue from the display to the dark area and reach the front camera or the proximity sensor (in your videos I can see that when curing the glue could leak the excess on the sides of the glass/display) so based in your experience, would you recommend to leave a little space (for example a millimeter) before reach the top dark area and leave the glue curing process expand and cover that space without reaching the front camera or the other sensors?
Hello Shamid,
Thank you for taking your time to comment. The LOCA doesn't expand when curing but there's definitely a bit of a trick to not getting the glue on the front camera/sensor area. (This is definitely one of the things we'll be covering more extensively on the new video we're working on but please refer to below for a detailed tip on how to prevent glue from getting on the front camera/sensor area.)
Still, the glue may get on the camera which is why we include a replacement back glass tape with every kit although we do not advertise it, to give our customers the chance to either clean the camera after, should the glue get on there or do the repair with the phone apart. You can clean it with isopropyl alcohol before or after it is cured.
Our LOCA, although it is liquid, it behaves almost like a pizza dough when placed between the front glass and the screen, in a sense that it doesn't freely flow like water, it needs to be 'kneaded' and has a tendency to 'bounce' back when you let go of the pressure (this is the reason why we include metal clips with our kits to apply the pressure required to 'hold' the glue in position).
So what you want to do is dispense the specified amount of glue in a dog-bone shape. If you see any bubble at this point, you may want to remove it by popping/moving it with a screwdriver. Lower the glass slowly one side at a time as shown in the video. If you get any bubbles, please do not try to lift it again as it'd introduce more bubbles. Once the glass has been lowered, simply let it sit and let gravity do the spreading. You want it to spread about 80% of the way on its own without you applying pressure. You can apply heat to help it spread on its own. You can also tilt the phone to help it spread more evenly. Once it is about 80% spread, work the bottom corners first, and then put the one of the included clips on there to hold the glue from retracting. Then do the same thing for the top left corner. When you get to the corner with the front camera, use your hands/fingers as you will have better control over the flow. When it has just reached the end of the display area (clear portion of the glass), expose it to daylight and cure it.
If for example, you see that the glue is spreading more to the top before it fills the top right corner, then hold the phone horizontally with the top right corner down to have gravity help you spread more to the edge so that when you apply pressure the corner gets filled evenly. Does this make sense? If anything is unclear, please let us know.
@@ecdiy ohh the tip of curing it asap when its in the position sounds good. i just bought the kit and i also don't want to remove the back either.
Just got your kit and hopefully it'll go well for me 🤙
Hello Ely,
Thank you for taking your time to comment and thank you very much for your purchase!
If we can be of any assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Wishing you a pleasant rest of the day.
Howdit go?
@@djRoyalTee not good I went to buy another phone after my screen went black using the kit.
Can it be used to separate frame too?
Depends on the adhesive and how the frame's edge is shaped but for the most part, yes. What I personally do is use the corner of the back end of the tool (it's a stiffer and 'sharper' there) to insert it to the point I have at least a centimeter (roughly 3/8") in then create a bigger opening by twisting it slightly with my hand. Once the bigger opening is created, I slide a standard flexible metal bar-style pry tool because it's a lot better for prying purposes.
Any questions/concerns, please do not hesitaet to comment further/contact us.
Best regards,
Very professional work 👌
I’ve been trying to practice glass removal, I can never seem to get under just the glass, would a video for iPhones be an ideal for you?
Hello,
Thank you for taking your time to comment.
If this is happening on iPhones, are you removing the bezel off completely first? or at the very least, are you prying it up enough before inserting the tool? Please see this photo (bit.ly/OCABladeCaution) it's a diagram we have made and linked in the description section of both the videos before linking our store. If the bezel/frame is not pried far enough, it can make it difficult for the tool to be inserted correctly. Also, as shown in the video, the tip needs to be curled and you need to position it in a way that the tip is touching the underside of the glass.
The glass removal process is a delicate process for sure across all devices as mentioned in the videos but the concept behind it is more or less universal. The glue layer is thicker than our OCA blade, and the OCA blade is the same thickness as the wire tool that you see readily being used on TH-cam. Heat softens the glue to make the insertion easier.
Any further questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us/comment further.
Best regards,
@@ecdiy yes, I remove the bezel completely, I just can’t figure out how to stay above the polarizer, I’ve been practicing on old iPhone X-11 screens trying to expand my business
Also, thank you for your response, it’s much appreciated and I will be using your advice to try and better my work.
Hi there. I did not see in your kit main tool to remove a glass. Do I need to buy it separately?
Would it be possible for the s10?
As for the glass removal, the method works for S10, but when it comes to gluing, you'd have to take the phone apart because of the location of the camera being within the screen area at least for now until we finish our pad based adhesive installation tool & method.
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Any chance you are going to do a front glass replacement on a Samsung galaxy s10?
Hello Muhammad,
Thank you for taking your time to comment! We have done several and we should have a video uploaded within the next month.
Any further questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Best regards,
@@ecdiy we're still waiting for that s10 video 😉
How many people successfully did this without any experience with this sort of stuff before? I'm really wanting to perform this, but I'm worried I'll mess it up. I'm going to practice on a display that I'm going to remove anyway, and then I'll buy an assembly with broken glass, and then take off the glass on that one, and put new glass on it. As long as I'm very careful, do I have a decent chance of success? I'll be using a laser temperature gauge, but I'm wanting to do this with a hair dryer. Is that a good idea, or should I go with the heat gun?
And when I say I have "no experience", I mean with replacing glass only, I've had some decent experience replacing whole digitizer assemblies.
Hello Mark,
I apologize for the delay in my response.
There is definitely a risk of messing up. I would save the repair on a live display unless you are comfortable. It is indeed a good idea to practice on a broken display. Even the ones that do not turn on, if you were to puncture it you will be able to see the bleed when you hold it at an angle under a bright light. (And this bleed, will be a black blob on a live display)
Heat gun is definitely recommended. It depends on the hair dryer but you will find that with a laser temperature gauge, hair dryer takes much longer than a heat gun to heat up.
To be frank, we do not believe the success rate from novices are great. At least, not as good as we want it to be.
The repair unfortunately is not as easy as it looks as mentioned in the videos and we get maybe 2/3 e-mails a day (sometimes we'd have a week without receiving such email but sometimes we'd get as many as 5 in one day day) from people who don't succeed, and when we combine sales on eBay, we sell about 30~40 front glass replacement kits for curved screens, but and this is a big but, that doesn't mean that the rest of them succeed. We just do not know. It's definitely a risk because as mentioned in the video, it is more difficult than it looks.
The success rate ultimately depends on how careful you can be and how closely you follow all the precautions noted in the video. One of the most common errors we see customers make is inserting the tool too deep. This is mentioned in both the videos before the start but the tip needs to be curled a little bit and be inserted in a way so that it glides just underneath the surface of the glass. We have created this image (bit.ly/OCABladeCaution) and linked it in the videos before linking our store also, and it's still an on-going issue.
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Best regards,
Hello, my brother threw my phone and caused a crack in the top corner of the screen, there is also black ink like thing where the crack is and the touchscreen seems to freeze up when I touch the top part of the screen. Would this fix that?
Unfortunately, the front glass does not contain any electronics and replacing the front glass alone will not fix the display/digitizer issues. The black ink blob is a puncture in the display and the bleed often spreads when you go to remove the glass in that area as well.
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Have a great rest of the day.
Hi do you think this kit would work on the LG Wing top glass display I recently cracked the top right corner and dont want to replace the original screen as replacements arent usually as high quality.
How long does shipping take?
Hello, thank you for taking your time to comment! It really depends on your location.
Within the US, you can expect delivery in 2~4 business days,
within Canada 2~6 business days,
Europe 8~13 business days,
while Asia, South America, Africa and other regions, it takes anywhere from 10~16 business days (2 weeks to just over 3 weeks).
If you can let us know where you are located, we'd be happy to get back to you with an estimate.
If we can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us or comment further.
Have a great rest of the day!
@@ecdiy I live in California
@@basketofbuckets In that case, it would take about 3~4 business days.
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Have a great weekend.
@@ecdiy I don't know if I should do the repair or not, they're not huge cracks but enough to annoy me. I just don't wanna mess up my phone
@@basketofbuckets Hmm, if you are unsure/don't feel certain about it then perhaps it is best to not tackle the repair.
There is a good band-aid solution that can help make the cracks much much less visible. Would you by any chance be able to send us a photo of the device through the 'contact us' page? We will be happy to take a look and confirm for you whether it would work or not.
It would also give your display a much needed protection also. (Cracked screens are much more prone to getting damaged further).
Best regards,
Thanks so much for this! I was hoping to be able to DIY as repair places in my country want to charge $200-$300 for it because they always replace the LCD as well. The last person I asked why they couldn't just replace the glass said because "touch wouldn't work properly after". Is this just scaremongering to get more money out of me or is there some risk to touch not being quite right after?
Can you ship it to india??? And how long for the package to arrive??
Hello Fah, thank you for taking your time to comment!
Shipping to India is not a problem. We do ship to India on a regular basis. The shipping costs the same as all other places $9.82 and it comes with full tracking. Delivery would take approximately 12~16 business days (just over 2 weeks to just over 3 weeks).
The way our international shipping works, our items get handed to the local post (India post) once it lands in the country, which makes it quite convenient for our customers.
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Have a great rest of the day.
I need advice ive got a crack on my screeb its centered on the left middle, behind there is one tiny green dot which is not spreading should i just replace glass, or should i replacing full front (lcd and glass)
The green dot is likely a stuck pixel. I'd imagine it even glows green even when other pixels are off? (Black - in an AMOLED or any OLED for that matter, each pixel lights itself. There is no backlight, which is what allows it to have infinite contrast with 0 light bleeding).
Anyhow, whether you should replace just the glass or the full display panel, that is up to you. Replacing the front glass definitely will NOT fix the green dot. It would only fix the crack as the glass does not contain any electronics.
@@ecdiy ok thanks, however my s7 edge i had a black blob on the side which spreaded slowly, do you think the green dot will soread, also thankfully the green dot cannot be seen whennthe phone is off, ane can only be seen on full brightness
Please feel free to send us an email through the contact page with a photo for us to take a look. I am not quite sure what the green dot may be at the moment.
As for the black blob, is the glass around that area broken in many small pieces? It's a little difficult to say with certainty but this would be risky in your situation because more often than not, it can cause it to spread. Kindly allow us a chance to explain: The way these displays are assembled, when you apply pressure to the black area, you'd see that the black spot does not spread. However, when there is negative pressure pulling/stretching the membranes/layers of the AMOLED apart, you'd see that the black 'bleed' spread. More often than not, the black 'bleeding' would spread when you go to remove the glass by the black blob because when the tool is inserted, there will be a slight negative pressure along the edges of the tool (and a slight positive pressure under the surface of the tool) although it is super thin, does this make sense?
However, if the glass is broken in many pieces around the area, you may be able to remove the glasses without causing negative pressure around the area which is what causes the spread as noted above. We have experimented quite a lot with displays with black blobs/dots "bleed" spots and this isn't to be confused with 'bruised spots' (dark gray) which are ok to work on for sure, but when it comes to pitch black dots we've had mixed results (more often than not though, it was not good). We believe it really depends on the nature and the precise location of the bleed. We know that getting the display hotter than shown in the video (between 160'F/71'C and 200'F/93'C ideally - and 160'F/71'C is just when things get too hot to touch) will also minimize the risk of it spreading because when you reach that temperature range, the OCA liquifies, and it allows the glass to be removed with much less resistance.
Thank you for bringing this up. We hope we can one day be able to answer this question more definitely but If you try it out and it doesn't work out, we would be happy to cover your return shipping even if you are not in the US so you can receive a full refund.
@@ecdiy thank you according to a few local repair shops the green dot on my s9 should not spread, thanks for the info asweel regarding the s7
Where do I buy the kit?
Hello Kelly, the link to our site is found in the description section of the video. It is expertcelldiy.com but please also take a look at this update/caution we also posted in the description section bit.ly/OCABladeCaution
I am in kuwait,i ordered s8 glass your website August 26 still i didn't receive that material.
Hello Ram, I was able to locate your order. The tracking information was sent to you by the automated system when we shipped it, but just in case, I sent the tracking information to your email also. I do see that it has landed in Kuwait, it already cleared customs and it is headed to your local post office. You should be receiving it any day now!
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Have a great weekend!
Thanks sir, immediate responsed
I have 91% isopropyl alcohol with "water" is that ok?
Unfortunately no. The only way you'd be ok with it is if you can make sure you do not turn the device on when you are working on it. This is not as easy as it sounds as you'd constantly be changing grips on the phone.
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Hi, can I use this tool for Apple Watch?
Hello, I would not recommend it. The way it is structured, there is a ring that's quite fragile that runs along the edges. In our video, I mention there being a sensitive flex cable at the bottom and how this repair needs to take place in a specific way that doesn't put pressure on there. I don't want to give Samsung any ideas but the Apple watch is made as though it's got that sensitive flex cable all the way around. (Technically, the cable actually runs only along 2 sides opposite to each other on the watch, but the parameter is super sensitive all the way around).
Maybe when I have time I will look into it more extensively and see if there was something I was missing but as is, I would not recommend it.
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Have a great rest of the day.
Where do you buy that glass and kit
Hello Scott, thank you for taking your time to comment. The address is noted in the description section of the video. (removed the previous link as we want everyone potentially considering the kit to be able to see the clarification on how to insert the tool which we also posted in the description section)
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Have a great rest of the day.
will it still be water proof?
Hello Brye. Great question. Below is pretty much a copied response we had provided previously provided:
In theory, yes it should still be water resistant. The tape adhesive which provides the seal is indeed original grade. However, the LOCA process would have to be done in a very precise manner and be spread perfectly evenly in order to achieve factory spec water resistance which is 5ft submersion for 30 minutes. While this is possible, this may not be easy for a novice and the water resistance may be less, to the point it can only resist regular splashes/drops of water (IPX1~IPX5 for example. I won't be able to go over what all the ratings mean but if you google IPX rating, there is a good article written by audioreputation with the specific details for each rating).
At the end of the day though, cracked screens are not water resistant either. So really, there isn't anything to lose when it comes to water resistance when replacing cracked front glass.
@@ecdiy ok thank you for the response
@@bryceberryman7768 Not a problem at all Bryce, anytime!
is it necessary to remove/open the back of the phone aswell in order to replace the front glass and not the entire screen.
Hello Vincent, thank you for taking your time to comment!
It isn't necessary but it's a good preventative steps to take. Kindly note that if you happen to get LOCA on the front camera area, the front camera will be blurry until you thoroughly clean it/replace it which involves removing/opening the back of the phone.
Our LOCA, although it is liquid, it behaves almost like a pizza dough when placed between the front glass and the screen, in a sense that it doesn't freely flow like water, it needs to be 'kneaded' and has a tendency to 'bounce' back when you let go of the pressure (this is the reason why we include metal clips with our kits to apply the pressure required to 'hold' the glue in position).
With this being said, gluing without getting the LOCA on the front camera area can be a little bit difficult for a novice to do. For this reason, our demonstration includes removing the back glass and removing the front camera and proximity sensor as a preventative measure.
If we can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to comment further/contact us.
Best regards,
@@leonardobrandt4016 Hello Leonardo, not a problem at all. I'm not sure if the material would be strong enough, or long enough to reach the areas you would need to reach but it might be worth a try.
If you have any questions/concerns about the process, please do not hesitate to comment further/contact us.
Have a great rest of the day.
Just received the kit and I am doing this on a 5 inch Sony xz2 compact. I have watermark under the LCD I need to clean. Would you recommend opening the screen first or after? I did it once with screen off and it was hella job.