Still crazy it’s the only one with a custom lift structure. I haven’t been to many theme parks at all, but I think I can confidently say this is one of the prettiest coasters even built. The lift structure with the moving cogs, the bell when the train is near the crest, the white women singing down below…
here is another reason: It's a ride that can make a Helix feel forceful. Fenix in the front left seat gives a really strange feeling that "too free to be safe" because you're quite high up in the air with nothing in front of you.
The Helix on Fenix is brutal when it comes to sustained, high positives. I prefer the right outer seat though as it is so low to the ground for such a long time that it makes you nervous that your feet will hit something.
Hmmmm, Gatekeeper has the most pointless helix I've ridden. Right up there with Gemini. I'd take the helix on Shivering Timbers over any steel helix out there.
I think the wing coasters are Newest Looping models from B&M. I mean, Why would the parks buy Arrow loopers if there is B&m sitdown(besides of the budget) And why would they buy B&M sitdown or standups if there is Floorless coasters? So the wing coasters are likely the newest models for the 'looping coaster' market(partially including the inverted models)- I think that's why its really popular
They can, like make a dive coaster a looping... Wait, dive coaster is also looping coaster. So here we go, the example long lasting looper model of B&M. Or better yet, we can remove the dive part and just straight up launching it with LSM, and we can called it "B&M Soarer". Like disney Soarin, but not simulator
I find it ironic how the only park with a wing coaster that actually loves to theme their rides and goes through great lengths to theme them, put absolutely no effort to theme their wing coaster at all. (cough cough) Dollywood (cough cough)
I just feel like wing coasters are so diverse and you can do any kind of inversion with them and such a so simple design can be so complex and different from every one of them
Whilst I agree that winged coasters are forceful experiences, they're not too intense. This is great for people who can't really deal with the more intense rides, or kids who are looking for their first big coaster. It looks intimidating on the surface but the actual ride is just pure fun.
They are also on of the few B&Ms that will go far negative. The hang time elements can approach an hit -1 g's. Nothing else does that on a B&M, everything else is pretty much limited to -.7. They are also decently forceful on the postives, getting well into the 4's. While they are graceful and bigger elements, missing that sense of whip, the higher forces than norm make up for it.
I'm actually kind of curious what you mean when you say other rides are hard to theme, because it seems like a lot of these elements (aside from the near miss) would be doable even for other kinds of coasters.
True. Dives often have underground drops. Certain CGI’s can have station flythroughs and Lech Coaster has that corkscrew in the station. Inverted coasters offer feetchoppers. I think the Wing model just lends itself especially well for near miss elements. And being next to the track grants different ways of executing such elements
They also have a super smooth ride experience. At my home park, the wing coaster is by far the most comfortable. Also the inversions (specifically the zero g roll) are great.
When I first saw B&M’s Wing Coaster model back in late 2011, I was amazed and thought that one day my home park Six Flags Great Adventure would get one. I still do nowadays, and I believe that a B&M Wing could’ve been a perfect replacement for Great American Scream Machine, and that I feel cheated by getting a relocated Stand-up instead. I really home one day Green Lantern is sent to another Six Flags park and converted into a Floorless, after which, a B&M Wing is built on the spot it currently sits on now.
The openness of wing coasters is what does it for me. Haven't ridden many coasters but got to ride Wild Eagle recently and was a bit underwhelmed at first (especially after riding LRod) until I rode it again in the front seat. Looking down while going over the drop and seeing absolutely nothing, no track, no car, was just amazing.
most European parks invest to theme most of their coasters, even b&m I think the reason the don't have that much theming in other countrys is because they are great filler rides, if that floor less in fiesta Taxes was in Europe, it would be one of the best coasters in that country due to its likely high theming and uniqueness
It annoys me that often just GP love wing coasters and enthusiasts do not. As an enthusiast I have to say that I consider them extremely underrated. Its my 2nd favourite B&M Model (behind the Giga/Hyper), which is because of the various forces and experiences you get on a wing coaster ride. There are positives, floater, hangtime, near misses and in general cool inversions, which I love much more than just get crushed with positives the whole ride (like on most B&M models)
Honestly they are just a fun ride, Although not as intense or long, or fast as others but the model is fun and very re-ridable. I have never gotten off of a winged coaster and said man that was a waste of time. I can think of many coasters where I have said that before but never a winged coaster. This coaster model checks all my boxes for sure.... Enjoyable, smooth (no head banging or uncomfortable transitions, old arrow) easy to marathon, comfortable to ride, and normally has a good setting or theming, at least the near misses.
Gatekeeper usually has one of the shortest waits in the park, really the only lines that are ever shorter are for magnum and rougarou. Just speaking from experience.
I think these are popular because they’re a “safer”, less intense version of the Arrow 4D coaster model like X2. More graceful, less insane, overall more appealing to a broader audience.
the model is fantastic but the only thing i absolutely hate about wing coaster is the max height restriction of 1,95m (in europe) and im 1,96m. Its absolutely terrifying everytime I get measured. And the worst thing of all is that the height restricion of 1,95m is not accurate because wing coasters in america have a maximum height of 78 inches wich is the same as 1,98m.
Nope. It's the motion of the train. Literally together then falling apart like a sliced cucumber or falling dominoes. Unlike any other train. Arguably similar to the twisting couches of their dive coasters.
I don't think it's that popular here in the U.S. because we only have four of these and I believe Kings Dominion was supposed to get one next but didn't. Cedar Fair and Six Flags should install a few more of these and I'd beg to see one of the SeaWorld Entertainment parks get one of these next.
I gonna have to disagree. I like Gatekeeper a lot more than most enthusiasts, but "extremely intense" is definitely overselling it. It's fun, it's certainly not extreme, even by GP standards.
@@nichtsistkostenlos6565 the rest of the ride isn't too crazy but that first drop in the back row has a quick switch from positive, to negative, to positive G's
I think your forgetting the fact that they are just fun rides, pretty chill, elegant, and sometimes pretty intense, gatekeeper made it to my top 10 because of that, and we lapped it like 20 times because it was a station wait, and for my family who are GP, it was their second favorite ride in the park, behind Steve of corse
Gardaland is my home park and I've ridden Raptor like a hundred times. It's not forceful at all, it has some nice floater on the first drop (in the back) and some very nice hangtime on the inversions, but that's not about it. People complain about them being forceless, completely ignoring that they're not meant to crush you with positives or throw you with ejector. Wing Coasters are all about the experience. That's why I think Raptor is one of the best, because it surely is one of the best themed. I've ridden it a lot of times, and still manages to "scare me" with all the foot choppers and pieces of scenery you almost can touch. It's just a fun and graceful experience, you really feel like you're flying two feets away from the ground, and that's why the GPs love it. Imo, the problem with the american Wings (in contrast to the european or asian ones) is that they barely have any theming. And Wing Coasters desperately require some theming to be fully appreciated.
Honestly wings can pull some good positive Gs. Not too intense like you could find on some Intamins, but still to a similar level as their stronger inverts. The wing seats when combined with rolls or twists can act as lever-arms as well, providing an extra force of positive or negative gs on the rider due to the rotation. Next time you ride one with an inline twist get 2 rides, each on opposite sides of the train, and see how the force on your body changes. I guess that's another reason as well; trying out both sides of the train in addition to the normal front/back comparison. There's 4 ideal seats to try on a wing rather than 1-2 on normal coasters. Honestly wing coasters are underrated. For both parks with an RMC Topper (ok one isn't fully topper anymore) and a wing coaster I've found both experiences of comparable quality, although something like an RMC I-Box would blow either out of the water.
0:06 I hate to break it to you, but... B&M built a total of 32 inverted coasters. Vekoma built a total of 42 SLCs and 29 SFCs. That’s more than twice as many as B&M...
B&Ms are universally popular though. Universal Studios (pun not intended) completely got Hulk rebuilt exactly the same as it was; never seen other parks do that with other manufacturers. Old-school Vekomas aren't as universally loved. Edit: Although can't say B&M has a monopoly though. If that's what you meant, then my bad, and I agree
I think wing coasters also just feel unique while riding, a bit like you’re actually flying. They mostly aren brutal G-Force machines, they feel more like an elegant flight with some intense moments.
Wing coasters are super fun, and I’d love to see one in Florida! They’re fun crowd pleasers! I absolutely loved Wild Eagle in the front row, especially. So much fun!
On the topic of wing coaster near misses, one of my favourite roller coaster marketing campaigns is when Thorpe Park shared a photo before The Swarm opened of dummies returning from going on it with hands and legs missing even though they just took the limbs off themselves lmao
"You can't theme a dive" cries in Baron1898
Oblivion - The Black Hole too
Or Krake
Or oblivion
How did he forget😢
baron is one of the most themed rides I've been on
I didn't realize they were so popular. I've only been on X-Flight (Gatekeeper was closed when I went) so I assumed there weren't that many yet.
Yeah, honestly blew me away
I Love that you're an enthusiast and feel like I'm a member of a secret club I catch you sprinkling coaster facts into your vids 😎😎🤘🏾🤘🏾😁😁
I've only ever been on Wild Eagle and heard of Gatekeeper so I just thought those were the only two in America
3:42 “You can kind of theme a dive but it never really works out” Baron 1898: Hello there
Still crazy it’s the only one with a custom lift structure.
I haven’t been to many theme parks at all, but I think I can confidently say this is one of the prettiest coasters even built. The lift structure with the moving cogs, the bell when the train is near the crest, the white women singing down below…
here is another reason: It's a ride that can make a Helix feel forceful. Fenix in the front left seat gives a really strange feeling that "too free to be safe" because you're quite high up in the air with nothing in front of you.
The Helix on Fenix is brutal when it comes to sustained, high positives. I prefer the right outer seat though as it is so low to the ground for such a long time that it makes you nervous that your feet will hit something.
Hmmmm, Gatekeeper has the most pointless helix I've ridden. Right up there with Gemini. I'd take the helix on Shivering Timbers over any steel helix out there.
"dive coaster's can barely be themed" ever seen Baron 1898 in the efteling?
I think the wing coasters are Newest Looping models from B&M.
I mean, Why would the parks buy Arrow loopers if there is B&m sitdown(besides of the budget)
And why would they buy B&M sitdown or standups if there is Floorless coasters?
So the wing coasters are likely the newest models for the 'looping coaster' market(partially including the inverted models)- I think that's why its really popular
They can, like make a dive coaster a looping...
Wait, dive coaster is also looping coaster. So here we go, the example long lasting looper model of B&M. Or better yet, we can remove the dive part and just straight up launching it with LSM, and we can called it "B&M Soarer". Like disney Soarin, but not simulator
I find it ironic how the only park with a wing coaster that actually loves to theme their rides and goes through great lengths to theme them, put absolutely no effort to theme their wing coaster at all. (cough cough) Dollywood (cough cough)
i have another reason: the layouts can be very similar to say a floorless but just more spread out and i think the gp like that
Nice to see you commenting here!
Wing coasters may not be loved by enthusiasts, but they are some of the coolest coasters out there
Exactly just because it doesn’t give you airtime doesn’t mean it’s not fun
Dives can be themed. Look at Baron 1898, its just crazy!!
And kind of oblivion black hole at gardaland?
That coaster is the absolute proof that these kind of rides can be themed
@@dawgebredd oblivion the black hole trust me has good theming
Krake is also quite nice with its theming.
To be honest, i think dive coasters were made to be themed.
I just feel like wing coasters are so diverse and you can do any kind of inversion with them and such a so simple design can be so complex and different from every one of them
Wild Eagle has an amazing first drop in the back row
Ik it’s so good
"You can kinda theme a Dive, but it never really works out"
Baron 1898 wants to speak a word with you.
3:42 "you can KINDA theme a dive but it doesnt really work out", Baron 1898: am i a joke to you?
Fact: the first wing coaster was actually built in 2007, in a park in spain named portaventura, its name is furius baco and it uses a hydraulic launch
It is a Wing Coaster but not a B&M Wing Coaster. It’s clearly not built like its B&M counterparts.
Love to see more from UK parks!! :)
Whilst I agree that winged coasters are forceful experiences, they're not too intense. This is great for people who can't really deal with the more intense rides, or kids who are looking for their first big coaster. It looks intimidating on the surface but the actual ride is just pure fun.
They are also on of the few B&Ms that will go far negative. The hang time elements can approach an hit -1 g's. Nothing else does that on a B&M, everything else is pretty much limited to -.7. They are also decently forceful on the postives, getting well into the 4's. While they are graceful and bigger elements, missing that sense of whip, the higher forces than norm make up for it.
I'm actually kind of curious what you mean when you say other rides are hard to theme, because it seems like a lot of these elements (aside from the near miss) would be doable even for other kinds of coasters.
True. Dives often have underground drops. Certain CGI’s can have station flythroughs and Lech Coaster has that corkscrew in the station. Inverted coasters offer feetchoppers.
I think the Wing model just lends itself especially well for near miss elements. And being next to the track grants different ways of executing such elements
'You can kinda theme a dive, but it never really works out' BARON 1898 ENTERS THE CHAT
They also have a super smooth ride experience. At my home park, the wing coaster is by far the most comfortable. Also the inversions (specifically the zero g roll) are great.
When I first saw B&M’s Wing Coaster model back in late 2011, I was amazed and thought that one day my home park Six Flags Great Adventure would get one.
I still do nowadays, and I believe that a B&M Wing could’ve been a perfect replacement for Great American Scream Machine, and that I feel cheated by getting a relocated Stand-up instead. I really home one day Green Lantern is sent to another Six Flags park and converted into a Floorless, after which, a B&M Wing is built on the spot it currently sits on now.
It’s because for the average guest, it looks so impresive like « omg i’m gonna die »
Coastoons: You can barley theme a Dive Coaster
Baron 1898: Am I a joke to you?
All the Dutch people and Efteling enjoyers shot up in their seats when he said that.
Cedar Point's Gatekeeper is so underappreciated, by most coaster enthusiasts. That thing is B&M brilliance!
3:42 laughs in Baron1898
1:36 “feels like a head-chopper or arm-chopper or foot-chopper”
Sounds remixable
I grinned so hard when I saw GateKeeper. I'm going to Cedar Point for the first time tomorrow.
3:44 Baron 1898 be like: Am i a joke to you?
You can never go wrong with an coastoons video.
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1823, colorized
The openness of wing coasters is what does it for me. Haven't ridden many coasters but got to ride Wild Eagle recently and was a bit underwhelmed at first (especially after riding LRod) until I rode it again in the front seat. Looking down while going over the drop and seeing absolutely nothing, no track, no car, was just amazing.
Yeah people hate on the straight drop on wild eagle but I LOVE it especially the vertical loop after
Don't microwave those spaghetti-o's yet, mom. New coastoons just dropped!
Great video as always
Wing coasters also hit the gp balance as well as dive's do in my opinion.
The first wing coaster was Furious Baco manufactured by intamin
5:42
Now I imagine what Coastoons screams like
I love these rides. The swarm was my favourite coaster for years because of the reasons stated in this video
Coastoons: *the wing coaster is so popular*
Also coastoons: *the wing coaster is super rare*
They’re also so smooth
most European parks invest to theme most of their coasters, even b&m
I think the reason the don't have that much theming in other countrys is because they are great filler rides, if that floor less in fiesta Taxes was in Europe, it would be one of the best coasters in that country due to its likely high theming and uniqueness
The two Dutch B&Ms are themed really well.
3:42 ... kinda theme a dive??????? Baron 1898 at Efteling is a realy whel themed dive coaster!!!! If you wanne pay for theming, it turns out awesome
Who else was singing armed and dangerous in their head when the video started?
I sang Sonic 3 -s music during the rest of the video :D
FR
Everytime I listen to a song and get into it it always ends up in Coastoons video a week later
Glad for the uk appreciation
Can’t wait until the day I get to ride one of these.
The forces are definitely notable. Flying through inversions like that while sitting down is really really weird in the best way
They can be six flags budget b and m coasters
You never talk about fenixis in toverland.
That is the one of best wing coaster around.
It’s a w to have armed and dangerous as an instrumental for this vid
It annoys me that often just GP love wing coasters and enthusiasts do not. As an enthusiast I have to say that I consider them extremely underrated. Its my 2nd favourite B&M Model (behind the Giga/Hyper), which is because of the various forces and experiences you get on a wing coaster ride. There are positives, floater, hangtime, near misses and in general cool inversions, which I love much more than just get crushed with positives the whole ride (like on most B&M models)
The swarm looking like Megatron
Wing coasters are just fun.
Swarm hits hard
They are very smooth rides also
3:21 VelociCoaster's Mosasaurus roll, Copperhead Strike's JoJo roll, Blue Fire Megacoaster's Mosasaurus roll, et cetera.
The first wing coaster in America was the wild eagle at Dollywood
i'd like to point out divers not being themed isn't technically correct cuz baron at eftelnig does it perfectly
Honestly they are just a fun ride, Although not as intense or long, or fast as others but the model is fun and very re-ridable. I have never gotten off of a winged coaster and said man that was a waste of time. I can think of many coasters where I have said that before but never a winged coaster. This coaster model checks all my boxes for sure.... Enjoyable, smooth (no head banging or uncomfortable transitions, old arrow) easy to marathon, comfortable to ride, and normally has a good setting or theming, at least the near misses.
Gatekeeper usually has one of the shortest waits in the park, really the only lines that are ever shorter are for magnum and rougarou. Just speaking from experience.
you dead have the best backing tracks
BOYS DROP WHAT YOURE DOING, COASTOONS JUST POSTED!!
Has anybody ever noticed those fake hands that look like they smacked through that shed on Thunderbird?
Phoenix toverland is one too
Yes
I love these but I'm an inch away from being too tall for X Flight
wish Silver Dollar city would get a wing or dive coaster
What’s the song in the background?
I think these are popular because they’re a “safer”, less intense version of the Arrow 4D coaster model like X2. More graceful, less insane, overall more appealing to a broader audience.
the model is fantastic but the only thing i absolutely hate about wing coaster is the max height restriction of 1,95m (in europe) and im 1,96m. Its absolutely terrifying everytime I get measured. And the worst thing of all is that the height restricion of 1,95m is not accurate because wing coasters in america have a maximum height of 78 inches wich is the same as 1,98m.
They are also very reliable
Nope. It's the motion of the train. Literally together then falling apart like a sliced cucumber or falling dominoes.
Unlike any other train.
Arguably similar to the twisting couches of their dive coasters.
They look cool😅 that's all I have to say...
yes CER king!! 👑😜
3:20 Banshee 🤔
I rided raptor only once, i was in the 6th line. Fire and screams from me
I don't think it's that popular here in the U.S. because we only have four of these and I believe Kings Dominion was supposed to get one next but didn't. Cedar Fair and Six Flags should install a few more of these and I'd beg to see one of the SeaWorld Entertainment parks get one of these next.
A wing coaster is a 4D coaster without the spinning
These things sadly are hit or miss. The good ones are amazing, the weaker ones are boing
I wish you went to SFMM or KBF
Only ridden gatekeeper, hate gatekeeper, wish it never was built
X2
Imo its just a dive coaster but better. Dive coasters truly bore me but wing coasters give the thrill dives couldnt
Barely theme a floorless… Volcano would beg to differ
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Nobody likes dives because they are only good in the front row. the gimmick of the ride is to hang over the drop and that is only good in the front
"You can kind of theme a dive but it never really works out". Have you seen Baron1898?
I don't think that s the wing coaster are pretty good and easy to theme BC the parks wich Can afford to pay theme have enough money for the theming
Uh no B&M's are popular
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Backseat right side on Gatekeeper has an extremely intense first drop
I gonna have to disagree. I like Gatekeeper a lot more than most enthusiasts, but "extremely intense" is definitely overselling it. It's fun, it's certainly not extreme, even by GP standards.
@@nichtsistkostenlos6565 the rest of the ride isn't too crazy but that first drop in the back row has a quick switch from positive, to negative, to positive G's
I think your forgetting the fact that they are just fun rides, pretty chill, elegant, and sometimes pretty intense, gatekeeper made it to my top 10 because of that, and we lapped it like 20 times because it was a station wait, and for my family who are GP, it was their second favorite ride in the park, behind Steve of corse
No fenix love 😭😭 it's short sure but it's intense and beautiful
Gardaland is my home park and I've ridden Raptor like a hundred times. It's not forceful at all, it has some nice floater on the first drop (in the back) and some very nice hangtime on the inversions, but that's not about it. People complain about them being forceless, completely ignoring that they're not meant to crush you with positives or throw you with ejector.
Wing Coasters are all about the experience. That's why I think Raptor is one of the best, because it surely is one of the best themed. I've ridden it a lot of times, and still manages to "scare me" with all the foot choppers and pieces of scenery you almost can touch. It's just a fun and graceful experience, you really feel like you're flying two feets away from the ground, and that's why the GPs love it.
Imo, the problem with the american Wings (in contrast to the european or asian ones) is that they barely have any theming. And Wing Coasters desperately require some theming to be fully appreciated.
Honestly wings can pull some good positive Gs. Not too intense like you could find on some Intamins, but still to a similar level as their stronger inverts. The wing seats when combined with rolls or twists can act as lever-arms as well, providing an extra force of positive or negative gs on the rider due to the rotation. Next time you ride one with an inline twist get 2 rides, each on opposite sides of the train, and see how the force on your body changes. I guess that's another reason as well; trying out both sides of the train in addition to the normal front/back comparison. There's 4 ideal seats to try on a wing rather than 1-2 on normal coasters.
Honestly wing coasters are underrated. For both parks with an RMC Topper (ok one isn't fully topper anymore) and a wing coaster I've found both experiences of comparable quality, although something like an RMC I-Box would blow either out of the water.
I think wing coasters are extremely underrated. I’ve only been on Gatekeeper, but it’s in my top 25 coasters.
0:06 I hate to break it to you, but...
B&M built a total of 32 inverted coasters.
Vekoma built a total of 42 SLCs and 29 SFCs.
That’s more than twice as many as B&M...
B&Ms are universally popular though. Universal Studios (pun not intended) completely got Hulk rebuilt exactly the same as it was; never seen other parks do that with other manufacturers. Old-school Vekomas aren't as universally loved.
Edit: Although can't say B&M has a monopoly though. If that's what you meant, then my bad, and I agree
And more Toyota Priuses have been sold than McLaren P1s...
I think wing coasters also just feel unique while riding, a bit like you’re actually flying. They mostly aren brutal G-Force machines, they feel more like an elegant flight with some intense moments.
3:43 this generated alot of comments from dutch/european people talking about baron 1898
Wij Nederlanders willen slechts een hartig woordje spreken met Coastoons.
Wing coasters are super fun, and I’d love to see one in Florida! They’re fun crowd pleasers! I absolutely loved Wild Eagle in the front row, especially. So much fun!
On the topic of wing coaster near misses, one of my favourite roller coaster marketing campaigns is when Thorpe Park shared a photo before The Swarm opened of dummies returning from going on it with hands and legs missing even though they just took the limbs off themselves lmao