I've struggled with metallics quite a bit during my ten years of painting, due to a lack of proper training in the booth. I'm finally getting better results thanks to videos like this. The next one I do I'll use this technique and air adjustment and see how it goes....
Hello! Just subbed. Your video was so very helpful today. I shoot my own cars, and shot metallic once long ago with terrible results. Painted a metallic hood today with a much better outcome. Thank you very much.
Nice job!! In only 8 minutes you, not only demonstrated something more useful than most other videos on here but also explained and demonstrated it very well! I haven't painted in 25 years and I'm taking on shooting my Jaguar next month with a hi pearl Ferrari color (grigio silverstone - what a color!) and I was having some concerns about tiger striping and mottling. Even just picked up a W-400 Iwata myself in 1.3. Hope I have my shit together after my hiatus, thanks for a well done video!
Thank you for watching. Please refer to our 2021 Automotive & Hard-Surface Application Guide available at www.creatextech.com, and email us at techsupport@createxcolors.com for any further help.
so with the drop coat... Do you leave the paint 5-10 mins to flash off, before doing the drop coat?! Or do you do it while the paint is still "open"? cheers
Great job explaining something that makes metallics doable for the hobbyist. Question for you: Painting a car with metallic panel by panel has always been the easiest for a hobbyist but has always been discouraged because of differences in the metallic look between the panels. How does this work if you just spray the panels for coverage, then assemble and drop coat the entire car for uniformity? Seems like a solution, have you done it? Thanks for your help, Rob
In this case you lowered the pressure and doubled the distance between the panel and spray gun.This caused the paint to be darker and go on smoother"velvetlike". if you raised the pressure would that cause the paint to go on lighter but produce a rougher finish? Thank you.Nice video though on videos it is so hard to see the difference but you described the difference well.
It would be better to lighter the concentration of metallic by adding more 4050 UVLS Clear as resin will be added as the color is extended, providing better film formation compared to over-extending with reducer which can negatively affect adhesion and coating integrity along edges, difficult areas. If you wish, perhaps make a test panel comparing extending the metallic with 4011 Reducer vs. 4050 UVLS Gloss Clear. We prefer the 4050. Thank you. www.uvlsclears.com
Hello new to your channal well explained I have done a drop coat with waterborne and let me tell you I am still a novice, I take it this is solvent paintyour spraying ? But well explained and yes I can see the difference the only thing I would of like to se is how would it look both side with the clear on thank you I got a funny feeling I am going to injoy your video's well explained in a short amount of time credit is due to you my friend i look forward to seeing all your video keep up the good work thank you
The paints used in these videos are water-based Createx Colors paints. Generally speaking, a drop-coat technique can be used with any paint type. Thank you.
Yes, candy-pearl colors, such as Sparklescent Colors, will benefit from a drop-coat to even the pearl's orientation just as do metallic colors. Thank you.
No, the strainer in the cup can be left in when painting Wicked Metallic and Pearlized Colors. For pearl-flake colors, the strainer int he cup should be removed. Thank you.
Hi, i had problem because this is my first time doing metalic color, and i didnt spray drop coat..now, my panel have uneven and splotchiness.. How can i getting rid of them ? Thank you
Depending upon how uneven, if just a bit sanding the existing finish flat 800-grit sandpaper followed by another 2 coats of the metallic, then a drop-coat should work. If very uneven, it may be best to re-apply AutoBorne Sealer, followed by metallic coat, www.autoborne.com. Thank you.
I have an issue with silvers. Even though I have a good match I still see that the section of the panel I painted is not a sparkly not as metallic as the factory. under certain angle you can see the "flatness" in my paint. anybody has a suggestion on gun size , tip size, nozzle size, pressure or whatever I can do to help my issue greatly appreciate it thank you
So we sprayed a metallic paint and didn't pay attention before we cleared and after clear there is tiger stripes what's the best way to getvrid of that Do I re prime the pannel or do I sand down the clear and respray color?
Depends. Best may be reapplying AutoBorne Sealer followed by metallic color. If the striping is not too bad/ noticeable, you may get away with just applying a few more coats of metallic color after sanding the clear flat with 800-grit. If in doubt, reptile then reapply the metallic color. Thank you.
Hi fantastic video, i just have a question i am going to be spraying a dark green metallic in Acrylic, not 2 pack can you give me any tips do i spray a light coat first then get heavier then the last coat put on a dry coat have the gun further back does that sound right,
Yes. Best application of Createx metallic colors is to mix with 4050 Gloss Clear, thin with 4011 Reducer and spray with a 1.3mm tip-size, set at the spray gun manufacturer's inlet psi settings. Thank you.
Can I use this technique with a wagner flexio 3000 paint sprayer? I'm on a serious budget and just want to paint a couple frames silver but don't want brush strokes
I had a question i sprayed a brown metalic and did not notice tiger stripes in the middle of a trunck until i finished clear coating it and brought out to the sun how long do i have to wait for clear to cure so i can try and fix it.
What clearcoat do you use as a high gloss one over a midnight blue metallic paint my truck is a older truck GMC Canyon SLE 07. Don't know what clearcoat is best for it. I saw in past from someone else on TH-cam saying don't sand metallic paints. My older truck was metallic painted too but just a bright silver metallic.
We recommend a gloss 2k urethane clear. Createx paints are compatible with any 2k urethane clear. While we most often use PPG EC550 for a quality, high gloss finish, we recently sprayed C-800 ICON Clear with good results, spraygunner.com/american-icon-1/. Thank you.
About to do my first metallic paint job on my car. What psi are you spraying at and when you do the drop coat what psi did you go down to? Thank you, great video
It depends upon the condition of the existing paintjob, however, yes, we'd always recommend starting with AutoBorne Sealer so the ground coat has good adhesion and any minor scratches are filled-in. Thank you.
I've struggled with metallics quite a bit during my ten years of painting, due to a lack of proper training in the booth. I'm finally getting better results thanks to videos like this. The next one I do I'll use this technique and air adjustment and see how it goes....
Thank you for letting us know this video was helpful.
Well done. You did a great job explaining the details. The mistake I was making was not to drop the pressure, surface was rough.
thank you
Hello! Just subbed. Your video was so very helpful today. I shoot my own cars, and shot metallic once long ago with terrible results. Painted a metallic hood today with a much better outcome. Thank you very much.
Hi. Thanks for subscribing. Please check out our automotive application guide, creatextech.com/assets/html/pages/hard-surface-and-automotive-guide.html
Good to explain the technique, no affect via the capture of the camera
Nice job!! In only 8 minutes you, not only demonstrated something more useful than most other videos on here but also explained and demonstrated it very well! I haven't painted in 25 years and I'm taking on shooting my Jaguar next month with a hi pearl Ferrari color (grigio silverstone - what a color!) and I was having some concerns about tiger striping and mottling. Even just picked up a W-400 Iwata myself in 1.3. Hope I have my shit together after my hiatus, thanks for a well done video!
Thank you for watching. Please refer to our 2021 Automotive & Hard-Surface Application Guide available at www.creatextech.com, and email us at techsupport@createxcolors.com for any further help.
Thanks so much. I'm really appreciating all your videos lately.
thank you!
Looks good! Hope all is well with you brother!
Nice technique! Awesome to see some "Streamline" painting!
thanks for watching!
Yo can see it if you pause at 8:14 and/or 8:16 👍
thanks
so with the drop coat... Do you leave the paint 5-10 mins to flash off, before doing the drop coat?!
Or do you do it while the paint is still "open"?
cheers
Allow the paint 5 - 10 minutes to flash off. Thanks.
Always great information bud.
thank you!
Great job explaining something that makes metallics doable for the hobbyist. Question for you: Painting a car with metallic panel by panel has always been the easiest for a hobbyist but has always been discouraged because of differences in the metallic look between the panels. How does this work if you just spray the panels for coverage, then assemble and drop coat the entire car for uniformity? Seems like a solution, have you done it? Thanks for your help, Rob
In this case you lowered the pressure and doubled the distance between the panel and spray gun.This caused the paint to be darker and go on smoother"velvetlike". if you raised the pressure would that cause the paint to go on lighter but produce a rougher finish? Thank you.Nice video though on videos it is so hard to see the difference but you described the difference well.
The drop coat is at reduced pressure, increasing the pressure creates texture / a rough finish. Thank you.
@@CreatexColors got it thanks
Can I add 20% more reducer to make it lighter on a 2:1 mix
It would be better to lighter the concentration of metallic by adding more 4050 UVLS Clear as resin will be added as the color is extended, providing better film formation compared to over-extending with reducer which can negatively affect adhesion and coating integrity along edges, difficult areas. If you wish, perhaps make a test panel comparing extending the metallic with 4011 Reducer vs. 4050 UVLS Gloss Clear. We prefer the 4050. Thank you. www.uvlsclears.com
It's beautiful 👍
Thank you!
Great info! I love the course aluminum. I have a practice tank that I based with it. Now I need to get some Candy2o on one of these dayZ.
Thank you!
Exactly 😎
Hello new to your channal well explained I have done a drop coat with waterborne and let me tell you I am still a novice, I take it this is solvent paintyour spraying ? But well explained and yes I can see the difference the only thing I would of like to se is how would it look both side with the clear on thank you I got a funny feeling I am going to injoy your video's well explained in a short amount of time credit is due to you my friend i look forward to seeing all your video keep up the good work thank you
The paints are water-based Createx metallic & pearl white colors applied over 6001 Sealer White. The clear is a 2k solvent-based urethane. Thank you.
Will drop coating work on single stage Acrylic Urethane?
Thank you
The paints used in these videos are water-based Createx Colors paints. Generally speaking, a drop-coat technique can be used with any paint type. Thank you.
Great info as always guys, thanks. Would this be a good technique for the sparklescent range too?
Yes, candy-pearl colors, such as Sparklescent Colors, will benefit from a drop-coat to even the pearl's orientation just as do metallic colors. Thank you.
Hi man do you take the filter off the pps cups for metálics and pearls or it’s not issue at all?
Do you pull that filter in the pps cup shooting metallic?
No, the strainer in the cup can be left in when painting Wicked Metallic and Pearlized Colors. For pearl-flake colors, the strainer int he cup should be removed. Thank you.
Hi, i had problem because this is my first time doing metalic color, and i didnt spray drop coat..now, my panel have uneven and splotchiness..
How can i getting rid of them ?
Thank you
Depending upon how uneven, if just a bit sanding the existing finish flat 800-grit sandpaper followed by another 2 coats of the metallic, then a drop-coat should work. If very uneven, it may be best to re-apply AutoBorne Sealer, followed by metallic coat, www.autoborne.com. Thank you.
Fo you spray drop coat right after last coat while its still wet? Or after last cover coat dries.
What temp, dew point, and humidity would you say is ideal for the silver metallic? And what is workable? Home is South East Tx
We set out dry times at 70 degrees F. with a 50% relative humidity. Thank you.
Great job but is that a hood to an rc car ???
The hood is an aluminum, mini hood. Thank you.
nice my brother how can i contact you for tutorials and questions
Please contact Chris Arpin at chris@createxcolors.com. Thank you.
Hey sir what is the pressure for silver thank u
Set inlet psi at the spray-gun manufacturer's recommendations, then drop this setting ~ 20% -30% for the drop-coat. Thank you.
Is this Water based paint?
yes, thanks
I have an issue with silvers.
Even though I have a good match I still see that the section of the panel I painted is not a sparkly not as metallic as the factory.
under certain angle you can see the "flatness" in my paint.
anybody has a suggestion on gun size , tip size, nozzle size, pressure or whatever I can do to help my issue greatly appreciate it thank you
How's that WBX? Thinking about getting one myself. Fan size?
Great, the WBX is the only tip we use for the W400 spray-gun. Thank you.
Great video!! Do you run the paint through a strainer when putting metallic paint in the gun? All the best!
Yes. We recently made a before-paint video that covers strainer type and size, th-cam.com/video/T9FlhZkAWGQ/w-d-xo.html. Thank you.
@@CreatexColors thank you guys. I’m painting tomorrow so this comes right on time. All the best!!
Good stuff
thanks
That’s paint it’s solvent or waterborne???
Water-based, acrylic-urethane paint. Thank you.
So we sprayed a metallic paint and didn't pay attention before we cleared and after clear there is tiger stripes what's the best way to getvrid of that
Do I re prime the pannel or do I sand down the clear and respray color?
Depends. Best may be reapplying AutoBorne Sealer followed by metallic color. If the striping is not too bad/ noticeable, you may get away with just applying a few more coats of metallic color after sanding the clear flat with 800-grit. If in doubt, reptile then reapply the metallic color. Thank you.
Control coat works only for silvers or also for maroons and blue colors?
A control coat generally works with any hue of a pearl or metallic. Thank you.
@@CreatexColors thanks bro!
Hi fantastic video, i just have a question i am going to be spraying a dark green metallic in Acrylic, not 2 pack can you give me any tips do i spray a light coat first then get heavier then the last coat put on a dry coat have the gun further back does that sound right,
These videos feature technique for spraying Createx Colors water-based paints, www.createxcolors.com. Avoid dry spraying any paint type. Thank you.
Can you apply metallic with a 1.3mm tip?
Yes. Best application of Createx metallic colors is to mix with 4050 Gloss Clear, thin with 4011 Reducer and spray with a 1.3mm tip-size, set at the spray gun manufacturer's inlet psi settings. Thank you.
Can I use this technique with a wagner flexio 3000 paint sprayer? I'm on a serious budget and just want to paint a couple frames silver but don't want brush strokes
Not sure; we don't use airless sprayers. Your inquiry is best answered by Wagner. Thank you.
I had a question i sprayed a brown metalic and did not notice tiger stripes in the middle of a trunck until i finished clear coating it and brought out to the sun how long do i have to wait for clear to cure so i can try and fix it.
Its best to check with the manufacturer of the clear for cure times before sanding and re-coating. Thank you.
@@CreatexColors thank you.
DID YOU USE SOLVENT OR WATER BASE?
water-based, www.createxcolors.com. Thank you.
Would this process be the same for solvent? I’ve heard people going up on pressure with solvent base.
We recommend contacting the manufacturer of the paint you're using and making a few test panels trying various psi settings. Thank you.
What clearcoat do you use as a high gloss one over a midnight blue metallic paint my truck is a older truck GMC Canyon SLE 07. Don't know what clearcoat is best for it. I saw in past from someone else on TH-cam saying don't sand metallic paints. My older truck was metallic painted too but just a bright silver metallic.
We recommend a gloss 2k urethane clear. Createx paints are compatible with any 2k urethane clear. While we most often use PPG EC550 for a quality, high gloss finish, we recently sprayed C-800 ICON Clear with good results, spraygunner.com/american-icon-1/. Thank you.
recommended needle and tip size when spraying metallic with pearl in it?
Check with the paint manufacturer for tip-sizes. For Createx metallic & pearl paints, a 1.2mm or 1.3mm tip-size is recommended. Thank you.
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How much psi ??????
Always follow the spray-gun manufacturer's psi recommendations. For the Iwata W400 used in this video, psi was ~ 18. Thank you.
About to do my first metallic paint job on my car. What psi are you spraying at and when you do the drop coat what psi did you go down to? Thank you, great video
The psi setting is what is recommended for the spray-gun manufacturer. For a drop coat, this psi is lowered, about 5 - 8 psi less. Thank you.
What's your gun setting for material an fan partten?
Set the spray-gun at the manufacturer's recommended inlet psi. The fan pattern is ~ 1/8 turn from fully open. Thank you.
@@CreatexColors thank you 👍
If i have a matte black color on my car would i need to put a sealer to make it a silver like this?
It depends upon the condition of the existing paintjob, however, yes, we'd always recommend starting with AutoBorne Sealer so the ground coat has good adhesion and any minor scratches are filled-in. Thank you.
Where do you get your test panels?
Different sources. The hoods are from www.minihoods.com. Thank you.
The drop coat works the same way with a lvlp gun?
Essentially yes. thanks.
@@CreatexColors thank you!