URM Academy I am but I'm a guitarist and use drum samples unless I'm in the studio with a real drummer which isn't often. Some good tips here though for drummers and sound engineers
Damn, so this basically a free version of Beat Detective, which is the only thing I actually miss from Pro Tools. I just tried it and it works really well ! Great info, thanks a LOT ! :D
I asked him on the URM page and he replied. You have to make a custom action to do this. Here's are the action's he used and named the custom action "dual mono to interleaved stereo": SWS: select one track(s) with selected item(s) Xenakios/SWS: select first of selected tracks Xenakios/SWS: implode items to takes and pan symmetrically Item: glue items Track: go to next track Track: remove tracks Xenakios/SWS: rename takes and source files... Track:Go to previous track Xenakios/SWS: rename selected tracks You're going to have to download the SWS extensions if you do not have them already to complete this custom action.
Hey man thanks for the video but it would be nice if the hotkeys were displayed on the video as you went along because he doesn't always explain what's occurring. It would just be more clear to see the hotkeys the producer is doing rather than slowing them down on explaining basics.
@Robin Leijon I see you quantize everything 100% on the grid. Does Reaper allow you to choose the "strength" of the quantize (0-100%) when quantizing audio items? I think is vital to maintain a "human feeling"...
great video! and don't ever forget to check for ride bell flams after the edits. you can prevent those by adding 5 to 10 ms of trigger pad (depending on how in sync the snare-ride are) on the ride bell sections.
Christian Loudieu All the tones are raw, no EQ or compression on the way in at all per Robin's request. The mics I used we're: Kick: Shure Sm91a, Sterling FET LDC Snare: SM7B/ Old Beta57 Toms: MD421s Ride/HiHat: SM81 Overheads: KM184s Blumlien Rms: AKG C414s Stairs: AT4040
How do you scroll inside a take? So you don't move the take on the timeline but rather the recording inside the take? And how do you click on one track and move all the tracks' beginnings at the same time?
I guess he used a custom script, that has its own button in the toolbar at the bottom. If you watch in slow-motion (0,25) you can see it. And he says he uses a script that he's gonna talk about in a future video...
My friend, what are your QUANTIZE settings? I dont seem to end up with the Q results you do. All th rest is pretty clear, but i get stuck at this point. And i noticed that you turned off the Auto CrossFade feature during the editing. Should i do it before i start? Thanks
@ im good, thanks! Never needed quantizing on live drums during this year actually) I got used to slip editing by hand and find this way to fit my goals the best. Cheers!
I'll be going through that in a future video! But you could look up 'create toolbars in reaper'. What you need to find is just the grid settings to add to it!
@@alexgl you have to install the SWS extension of Reaper before (check out "reaper SWS extension" on google). These "fill gaps" actions are part of the SWS packs. SWS packs are awesome, you should install them anyway.
djabthrash figured it out already, did my drums. I used to install SWS before, it was needed to mixdown MP3s. But at some point after an update it started to work with no SWS, so i forgot about it) Thanks a lot
What I use is a custom script that I'll be showing in a later video. But to get a stereo track out of two mono tracks you can bus them and pan them and then print the bus track to a stereo track! Hope it'll work for you!
Robin Leijon I have tried this quantizing method and the slip editing method for editing drums. Combined with your settings for the “Fill gaps between selected items” action. I am still getting some noticeable artifacts, most notably on crash rides. I am new to drum editing but this does not sound right. Any thoughts ?
The function is called 'Fill gaps between selected items (advanced)' and you will need the SWS Extention which is a free extension for Reaper! So just do a google search and i'll get you there!
Could anyone enlighten me on how to get my Reaper to look like his ? Is it a skin ? There's way more options than I have aswell that are quickly available to him. Thanks !
Hey! It's the default skin, the only thing is that I've added extra toolbars and set them to be at the bottom! All options are available in the shortcut option where you can also assign them to buttons in a toolbar. I'll probably be going over this in a future video!
I see pretty much every modern band using Cubase, but I prefer REAPER 100 times, it's lighter and stable as a rock. Am I losing anything for not going with Cubase?
That shit is not working for real metal drumming with blastbeats or faster double-kick ... For rock it is ok ... Looks like I still need to work old way
"It needs just a little tightening up." *slices up entire performance and makes it sound like a computer played it* Man. Imagine if all those amazing rock records from the 70's were quantized. Yikes. I'll take a little imperfection in performance. Nice to know a human is still behind the instrument.
Why bother recording a drummer when you're quantizing the whole performance to the grid? I know this is mostly meant as a DAW/editing tutorial but still.
Whether you choose to edit things this tightly or not is up to you. We are not trying to tell you how to make your music, the goal of this video is just to show you how to use the tools at your disposal, so that if you ever need to use them, you have a full understanding.
You must be new or something. People have been quantizing drums forever. It doesn't take a bad performance and magically make it good somehow. The drummer has to be in the 95-99% percentile region on the metronome accuracy for quantizing to work properly. If the performance is weak and shaky to begin with then the quantizing feature will make it 10x worse.
Or, maybe you could push the drummer to just play better so you don’t have to quantize everything.... this is why a lot of modern music sounds so sterile. It’s all fixed by a computer..... What ever happened to real musicianship?
It's your music. You should produce it however you want. If you don't want to edit your drums, literally nobody is suggesting that you do otherwise. This is just a video explaining how to do a thing... whether you choose to do that thing or not in your music is up to you. Let everybody make their music their own way, ya know? Life's too short to get bent out of shape about drum editing my man!
Comment here if you're a Reaper user!
URM Academy I am but I'm a guitarist and use drum samples unless I'm in the studio with a real drummer which isn't often. Some good tips here though for drummers and sound engineers
I use reaper and watch URM academy 24/7 :D
I am Reaper user , and I make money from music production !
finally
someone gives love to reaper
So much yes! Love Reaper!
This is awesome, thank you! For anyone who wants to skip, the gaps are filled at 9:24
Great video but I'm stuck at the first thing u do when u copy kick n snare and "print these as a stereo stem", alright but how do u do that ?
HELL YEAH this video came at the rightest time!
Thank you so much Robin and URM
Thanks for watching!
holy crap this workflow speed though. looks so much better than elastic
The original drum recording sounds ridiculously good, especially that snare (godly !) !
I’d love to hear some info about the custom toolbar at the bottom. I know a few of them but would like to hear about all of them!
Damn, so this basically a free version of Beat Detective, which is the only thing I actually miss from Pro Tools.
I just tried it and it works really well ! Great info, thanks a LOT ! :D
You do it exactly as me Robin! Love that scripts, cant wait to see next video when you show it :D
great video, can you explain the purpose of the stereo track compile at the very beginning of this video ?
Please tell me your custom actions you use to make stereo track from two selected track 1:32. I can't figure it out!
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I asked him on the URM page and he replied. You have to make a custom action to do this.
Here's are the action's he used and named the custom action "dual mono to interleaved stereo":
SWS: select one track(s) with selected item(s)
Xenakios/SWS: select first of selected tracks
Xenakios/SWS: implode items to takes and pan symmetrically
Item: glue items
Track: go to next track
Track: remove tracks
Xenakios/SWS: rename takes and source files...
Track:Go to previous track
Xenakios/SWS: rename selected tracks
You're going to have to download the SWS extensions if you do not have them already to complete this custom action.
@@rob550 This was super helpful, man. Thanks!
@Sebastian Giordano try "SWS: select only track(s) with selected item(s)". that's what I have in mine.
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Hey man thanks for the video but it would be nice if the hotkeys were displayed on the video as you went along because he doesn't always explain what's occurring. It would just be more clear to see the hotkeys the producer is doing rather than slowing them down on explaining basics.
Whenever I split my tracks it doesn't split every track in the group. What do I do?
Wow... and i´ve being doing this manually over the years... need to adjust to this method :-)
@Robin Leijon I see you quantize everything 100% on the grid. Does Reaper allow you to choose the "strength" of the quantize (0-100%) when quantizing audio items? I think is vital to maintain a "human feeling"...
This is a lifesaver. Thank you
Happy to see some reaper tutorials! Btw at 12:22~ there's one hit out of time, besides from that this is a very good method :)
great video!
and don't ever forget to check for ride bell flams after the edits. you can prevent those by adding 5 to 10 ms of trigger pad (depending on how in sync the snare-ride are) on the ride bell sections.
Here is a link for making 2 mono channels into stereo in Reaper for people struggling: th-cam.com/video/3eu02N3fVLg/w-d-xo.html
thanks
Robin, did you track those drums ? It sound very good. If yes, could tell us a bit more about the tracking process ?
I did not, but my friend AJ Viana at Sylar Sound Studios did!
Robin Leijon coud you tell us more about the tracking process, though ?
Christian Loudieu Hello! What did you wanna know specifically?
Christian Loudieu All the tones are raw, no EQ or compression on the way in at all per Robin's request. The mics I used we're:
Kick: Shure Sm91a, Sterling FET LDC
Snare: SM7B/ Old Beta57
Toms: MD421s
Ride/HiHat: SM81
Overheads: KM184s
Blumlien Rms: AKG C414s
Stairs: AT4040
@@ajviana1142 sounds absolutely killer, especially that snare
How do you scroll inside a take? So you don't move the take on the timeline but rather the recording inside the take?
And how do you click on one track and move all the tracks' beginnings at the same time?
hi i'm new in Reaper , how you did that 1:34 - 1:38 ?
I guess he used a custom script, that has its own button in the toolbar at the bottom.
If you watch in slow-motion (0,25) you can see it.
And he says he uses a script that he's gonna talk about in a future video...
youtube the video "dual mono to stereo in reaper" from REAPRE Mania for a tutorial on how to do it
My friend, what are your QUANTIZE settings? I dont seem to end up with the Q results you do. All th rest is pretty clear, but i get stuck at this point. And i noticed that you turned off the Auto CrossFade feature during the editing. Should i do it before i start? Thanks
Do you find some appropiate quantize settings ?
@ im good, thanks! Never needed quantizing on live drums during this year actually) I got used to slip editing by hand and find this way to fit my goals the best. Cheers!
Great video! How do I setup the grid selection bar like you?
Great tutorial man ! How did you setup your bottom toolbar to change grid settings like that ?
I'll be going through that in a future video! But you could look up 'create toolbars in reaper'. What you need to find is just the grid settings to add to it!
Holy hell those drums sound great
This is great, thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the video! How can I get the tool bar you are using at the bottom? Thank you !
watch for "reaper mania toolbar" and "reaper mania grid" on youtube
Holy fuck, this is insane! Thank you so much for making this video, this just sped up my workflow by an insane ammount :O
Reaper is the best daw in the world!
What interface/board are you using?
thanks, ive been wondering how to accomplish this on reaper
cant find the fill spaces action anywhere mannnn please help
go to the actions menu and search for "fill gaps"
@@djabthrash i cannot find any... stuck completely
@@alexgl you have to install the SWS extension of Reaper before (check out "reaper SWS extension" on google). These "fill gaps" actions are part of the SWS packs.
SWS packs are awesome, you should install them anyway.
djabthrash figured it out already, did my drums. I used to install SWS before, it was needed to mixdown MP3s. But at some point after an update it started to work with no SWS, so i forgot about it) Thanks a lot
@@alexgl You're welcome.
What was on the master fader insert?
How do I turn two tracks into one stereo track? Like at 1.40
What I use is a custom script that I'll be showing in a later video. But to get a stereo track out of two mono tracks you can bus them and pan them and then print the bus track to a stereo track! Hope it'll work for you!
Robin Leijon thanks!!!
You may also search for a custom action called "Implode 2 mono items to 1 stereo item"
Robin Leijon I have tried this quantizing method and the slip editing method for editing drums. Combined with your settings for the “Fill gaps between selected items” action. I am still getting some noticeable artifacts, most notably on crash rides. I am new to drum editing but this does not sound right. Any thoughts ?
Appreciate this info!!!!!
i can't find the Fill Gaps command anywhere, any tips on that?
The function is called 'Fill gaps between selected items (advanced)' and you will need the SWS Extention which is a free extension for Reaper! So just do a google search and i'll get you there!
@@robinleijon You are the best!
Could anyone enlighten me on how to get my Reaper to look like his ? Is it a skin ? There's way more options than I have aswell that are quickly available to him. Thanks !
Hey! It's the default skin, the only thing is that I've added extra toolbars and set them to be at the bottom! All options are available in the shortcut option where you can also assign them to buttons in a toolbar. I'll probably be going over this in a future video!
Awesome thank you!
pretty good im a reaper user too
I see pretty much every modern band using Cubase, but I prefer REAPER 100 times, it's lighter and stable as a rock. Am I losing anything for not going with Cubase?
I wouldn't say that you're losing anything! All DAWs are tools and whatever you're most comfortable in will get you furthest!
ward0 Cubase is a standard for scoring orchestral stuff due to a few unique features, but Reaper is more than capable for most things!
I'm a beginner at mixing and this is so confusing to me
That shit is not working for real metal drumming with blastbeats or faster double-kick ... For rock it is ok ... Looks like I still need to work old way
"It needs just a little tightening up."
*slices up entire performance and makes it sound like a computer played it*
Man. Imagine if all those amazing rock records from the 70's were quantized. Yikes.
I'll take a little imperfection in performance. Nice to know a human is still behind the instrument.
Not a very good teacher , you do everything too fast for a beginner/intermediate to understand. Thanks for taking your time do it anyways.
This wasn’t helpful considering you didn’t tell us what specific action you have linked to the Q key. 👎🏾
Why bother recording a drummer when you're quantizing the whole performance to the grid? I know this is mostly meant as a DAW/editing tutorial but still.
Whether you choose to edit things this tightly or not is up to you. We are not trying to tell you how to make your music, the goal of this video is just to show you how to use the tools at your disposal, so that if you ever need to use them, you have a full understanding.
Cause even an edited performance sounds wayyyyyy better than programmed drums.
Now i realised i said it like edited drums were something bad. Edited drums are fuckin awesome.
half true, if the kit is well played and poor recorded or with no matching kit for the sound you are looking for, it will be worst.
You must be new or something. People have been quantizing drums forever. It doesn't take a bad performance and magically make it good somehow. The drummer has to be in the 95-99% percentile region on the metronome accuracy for quantizing to work properly. If the performance is weak and shaky to begin with then the quantizing feature will make it 10x worse.
Or, maybe you could push the drummer to just play better so you don’t have to quantize everything.... this is why a lot of modern music sounds so sterile. It’s all fixed by a computer..... What ever happened to real musicianship?
It's your music. You should produce it however you want. If you don't want to edit your drums, literally nobody is suggesting that you do otherwise. This is just a video explaining how to do a thing... whether you choose to do that thing or not in your music is up to you. Let everybody make their music their own way, ya know? Life's too short to get bent out of shape about drum editing my man!