if the genre was dead after the release of fandago we would have never had the longest journey black mirrors broken swords to name a few the genre is still alive and kicking see beyond a steel sky
I suppose while we're still alive, some of us will keep making them. I played "Billy Masters was right" just this week. A love letter to people like us.
People were not playing Fallout in 1998. It was a gem but an unexpected one. Nobody talked about Fallout until much much later. I found Fallout by chance, none of my friends knew it. Problably we were playing Quake, Duke Nukem 3D, Baldur's Gate, or Carmaggeddon at that time.
I appreciate the dialogue. The one rebuttal I have is that Fallout 2 was the third highest selling PC game in 98 and it was released in November. It was a smashing success. Carmageddon. Oh man. Now that is some good memories. Cheers my friend
@@AdventureGameHotspot Thanks for the data, mate! Surely 2 was a selling success, after I spoke about that awesome little game I found by pure luck to every living thing on my way. I don't know what happened to LucasArts graphic adventures games. My favourited genre, my favourited company, they were kings at that time. I miss them :(
I think fair points made here. Like I said on facebook, we at Revolution were sitting through moronic little meetings with publishers in rooms with Resident Evil posters all over the walls. Metal Gear Solid... they loved that. They were saying - we like your story stuff, but can you drop the rest and stick some guns in. Fun times. I do think things have never looked better for a re-birth, though. A game has to be good these days, and that's all that matters.
Great summary of the game and tone of the genre at the time! While there were some hits released in the years after, I think they were more outliers, with some falling prey to the hybrid action/adventure 3D trend of the time. I’d be curious to hear your thoughts on the genre’s evolution since ‘98. I think it owes a bit to AGS engine’s release, as it appeared in the early 2000s and allowed p+c fans to continue creating stories where the genre left off. It’s spawned a new generation of successful indie releases from the likes of Grundislav, Wadjet Eye, and Harvester Games.
I agree unequivocally Rebecca. In fact we discuss this with Ken Williams in an interview that you can find on the channel. AGS and crowdfunding have played a huge role in rekindle the genre. Thanks for the dialogue my friend. I love talking Adventure games 😃
There was no Xbox in 1998 though, lol. I didn't get around to playing Grim Fandango back in the day because my computer couldn't hack the newfangled 3D stuff at the time. I remember being mesmerized by screenshots and art in gaming magazines though.
I'll be blunt. I never liked the 3D interface, the early control scheme, more to the point. What killed Point and Click for me, was that there was NO MORE POINTING and NO CLICKING. All the adventure games I love, have different kinds of point and click. With very very few exceptions. Personally, Grim Fandango ... not my kind of adventure story. It was funny. But too quirky. Maybe Tim Burton humor has ruined it for me later down the line. I can't watch his movies anymore, either, because they're just too weird. I know it's a tragedy. I love adventure games. But I strongly prefer something grounded over weirdness. Turned out Tim Schafers games were just as weird, most of the time. But I love the genre, and everything not like those games, in there. And there is a threshold, too. For instance: Monkey Island. Perfect in my book. Monkey Island 2: weird, but okay.
The clicking is a very satisfying feeling to me also. It took me a while to let From Fandango into my club. Probably half way through the game before I began to let myself appreciate it for the reasons that you mentioned. I felt like my freedom was taken at first. Also, the setting and story didn't relate to me in any way. Eventually it all came together and I appreciated the art. Did you play Beyond a Steel Sky yet and if so what do you think of the interface?
I did buy Grim Fandango around time of release, was very excited for a new LucasArts adventure game. But I've only played it once (I've played Monkey Island 1&2 and Sam & Max more times than I can count). I just didn't really like it. Could be it was just the 3D was so off-putting, I don't know. Maybe I should give it another try, I might like the remaster more. I'm so glad devs are producing 8 bit and 16 bit games once again, long live point and click
I didn't play this, because they characters, art design, theme didn't appeal. I think Grim fandango should have been a PlayStation release (being 3d, etc)
I finished it. But I hate it. It has no charm like Money Island or Full Throttle, DOTT, Indiana Jones, Sam & Max. I just hate it in 3D. 3D just has no charm.
I don't get why LucasArts never made a Star Wars adventure game. It would have sold phenomenally. (And no, I don't count "Yoda Stories.")
I think they didn't want to compete with Star Wars Galaxies. I lost a lot of time to SWG.
Wasn't Star Wars Galaxies a newer game? A Star Wars adventure in the mid-90s would have been quite something. Like Indiana Jones 4 was.
Great video! I will watch more as I get the chance. Thank you for creating this.
Thanks so much my friend
if the genre was dead after the release of fandago we would have never had the longest journey black mirrors broken swords to name a few the genre is still alive and kicking see beyond a steel sky
"Death cannot stop true love. All it can do is delay it for a little while". 😀
I suppose while we're still alive, some of us will keep making them. I played "Billy Masters was right" just this week. A love letter to people like us.
Hey Alex!! Long time no talk. What do you think of my new adventure game video? "Adventure Game Faces to the Voices"
I would sooner say that King's Quest VIII, Gabriel Knight III, and Space Quest 6 killed adventure gaming, and LucasArts let it live a bit longer.
That was kind of the premise. LA tried to keep it rolling but the industry was dying. Grim's poor sales
Grim's poor sales kind of broke the back of the "golden age" of Adventure games
Gabe 3 was certainly the internal trigger for Sierra's abandoning the games
King's Quest 8 is horrible. Really hate the 3D environment game play.
People were not playing Fallout in 1998. It was a gem but an unexpected one. Nobody talked about Fallout until much much later. I found Fallout by chance, none of my friends knew it. Problably we were playing Quake, Duke Nukem 3D, Baldur's Gate, or Carmaggeddon at that time.
I appreciate the dialogue. The one rebuttal I have is that Fallout 2 was the third highest selling PC game in 98 and it was released in November. It was a smashing success. Carmageddon. Oh man. Now that is some good memories.
Cheers my friend
@@AdventureGameHotspot Thanks for the data, mate!
Surely 2 was a selling success, after I spoke about that awesome little game I found by pure luck to every living thing on my way.
I don't know what happened to LucasArts graphic adventures games. My favourited genre, my favourited company, they were kings at that time. I miss them :(
I think fair points made here. Like I said on facebook, we at Revolution were sitting through moronic little meetings with publishers in rooms with Resident Evil posters all over the walls. Metal Gear Solid... they loved that. They were saying - we like your story stuff, but can you drop the rest and stick some guns in. Fun times.
I do think things have never looked better for a re-birth, though. A game has to be good these days, and that's all that matters.
My body is ready for Broken Sword 6. Any day. Any year. Til the day I die.
@@Jammet Broken Sword 5 was legitimately great in my opinion. I'd drop a large percentage into the crowdfunding bucket to fire up production.
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Great summary of the game and tone of the genre at the time! While there were some hits released in the years after, I think they were more outliers, with some falling prey to the hybrid action/adventure 3D trend of the time. I’d be curious to hear your thoughts on the genre’s evolution since ‘98. I think it owes a bit to AGS engine’s release, as it appeared in the early 2000s and allowed p+c fans to continue creating stories where the genre left off. It’s spawned a new generation of successful indie releases from the likes of Grundislav, Wadjet Eye, and Harvester Games.
I agree unequivocally Rebecca. In fact we discuss this with Ken Williams in an interview that you can find on the channel. AGS and crowdfunding have played a huge role in rekindle the genre.
Thanks for the dialogue my friend. I love talking Adventure games 😃
Thanks, I’ll check out the other vids!
Congratulations for the very well done video.
Thank you so much. I greatly appreciate you.
Great video
There was no Xbox in 1998 though, lol.
I didn't get around to playing Grim Fandango back in the day because my computer couldn't hack the newfangled 3D stuff at the time. I remember being mesmerized by screenshots and art in gaming magazines though.
AWESOME narration!
Thanks so much
Yeh well them being literal skeletons is kind of a visual pun in this regard
Awesome video
Thanks so much my friend.
let the haters on facebook hate. You made a good vid and especially your voice acting for Don Copal is commendable
Ha. Much appreciated my friend
Nah. I love the hate. Let the hate continue. Power, unlimited power.
@@LUCKO2022 Only then will your transformation to the dark side be complete. Lol
I'll be blunt. I never liked the 3D interface, the early control scheme, more to the point. What killed Point and Click for me, was that there was NO MORE POINTING and NO CLICKING. All the adventure games I love, have different kinds of point and click. With very very few exceptions. Personally, Grim Fandango ... not my kind of adventure story. It was funny. But too quirky. Maybe Tim Burton humor has ruined it for me later down the line. I can't watch his movies anymore, either, because they're just too weird. I know it's a tragedy. I love adventure games. But I strongly prefer something grounded over weirdness. Turned out Tim Schafers games were just as weird, most of the time. But I love the genre, and everything not like those games, in there. And there is a threshold, too. For instance: Monkey Island. Perfect in my book. Monkey Island 2: weird, but okay.
The clicking is a very satisfying feeling to me also. It took me a while to let From Fandango into my club. Probably half way through the game before I began to let myself appreciate it for the reasons that you mentioned. I felt like my freedom was taken at first. Also, the setting and story didn't relate to me in any way. Eventually it all came together and I appreciated the art.
Did you play Beyond a Steel Sky yet and if so what do you think of the interface?
@@AdventureGameHotspot Not yet -- I've seen the demo, and I like what this game looks like. It's definitely on my short list. :)
I did buy Grim Fandango around time of release, was very excited for a new LucasArts adventure game. But I've only played it once (I've played Monkey Island 1&2 and Sam & Max more times than I can count). I just didn't really like it. Could be it was just the 3D was so off-putting, I don't know. Maybe I should give it another try, I might like the remaster more.
I'm so glad devs are producing 8 bit and 16 bit games once again, long live point and click
The remaster is definitely needed. It cleans up the control issues.
as i have gotten older i started playing more adventure games. just prefer play more story driven slower games. why i play mostly rpgs as well.
I'm in the same boat. Maybe it's because I can't keep up with the kids playing FPS games. They're too good for me. 😀
Digging it.
Playing with fire
What do you mean?
I didn't play this, because they characters, art design, theme didn't appeal. I think Grim fandango should have been a PlayStation release (being 3d, etc)
Hmm I think so?
I finished it. But I hate it. It has no charm like Money Island or Full Throttle, DOTT, Indiana Jones, Sam & Max. I just hate it in 3D. 3D just has no charm.
What? There was Full Throttle 2? Sam n Max 2 planned?? Argh!!
@@calvinfoo yeah. Full Throttle 2 was 40% complete.
Weird Gaming Adventure sad. I kind of hate Grim. I found the art in 3D is so disturbing bad. The skull so flat.
It would be great if it is in 2D
@@calvinfoo I thought the 3d block worked ok on Grim. However, I really disliked the blocky textures on humans in Escape from Monkey Island. 🤛