33's vs. 31's: Here's What I've Noticed
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- In this video I want to share the differences I've noticed since upgrading to 285/75 tyres, or 33's as they are widely known. Bigger tyres, especially mud terrains, provide that extra bit of capability on the tracks, in the dunes, or even on the road. They make for a safer, lower-maintenance road experience. I'm here to share my experience of the ups and downs of bigger tyres. After running 265/75 (31s) tyres my whole life, there are some noticeable differences!
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More likely to crack a cv or brake an axle with greater turning torque pressure because of the larger radius from the axle. Saw a guy easily brake a rear axle on a tree root because he had 37's.
But this is 33s vs 31s, what's that anecdote with the 37 got to do with the price of fish?
@@jefflangdon3540 google
Great summary and information on the difference between tire sizes. I think a lot of people don't think about the end result and only think about how it looks on the truck. It's great to see that you've put thought into the before and after. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for the supportive words 😊
Great video, well done. Going from 35s to 33s also has its benefits (returns lost torque/power, provides less bounce, enhances control of the vehicle on and off-road, creates a better "planted" vehicle all round). A good quality 33" tyre, like Mickey Thompson Baja MTZ P3, compared to the cheaper Mud Trac Maxtrek 35s, provides the same ground clearance, possibly due to the better load rating, higher psi and stronger side-wall.
Unless you are going over boulders there is 0 need for 35's, 35's are not even that much more helpful in mud vs 33's other than adding weight.
There is 1 big benefit to having 35s and that’s front and rear diff clearance
Will, been following your vids and I like what you're doing, keep it up. I have the same truck here in Myanmar but not been able to find anyone so far to stick a turbo in.
You aren't getting 40 to 50mm lift from these tires, the difference in diameter of the 285/75--16 is only 30mm more than the 265/75-16. So you gain about 15mm in ground clearance, that's all.
Yeah aware of that. Verbal error in the moment I never corrected
Just downgraded from 35 MT's (Falken MT) to 32 ATs (Yokohama X-AT). I was done with 35s: weight, drive line wear, power loss, noise (MT issue), fuel consumption, no more speedo corrections. I must say, I am glad I downgraded to pizza-cutters. No regrets what so ever.
Hi boss. What is the size (i.e 265/65R17) of your 32" tyre?
Yokohama Geolandar X-AT LT 235/80/17
You've actually came up with the same conclusions I have, although I found a 9% difference in my speedo, which actually made my speedo accurate according to my GPS.
I own a 62 series, went from 31AT to 33MT, so if I calculate the km/L and keep that 9% in mind there is very little difference, yes, it's slightly more. I have been on long outback trips and tracks, other than that it's a daily driver. What I did find is the steering needs better dampening, more weight I presume, other than that just a slight lift and other positives. Tyre wear doesn't seem to be a problem either, not much more at all if any.
Late to the video, but I would recommend going up a ratio for your diff gears. It will bring your revs and torque back to stock and help with fuel consumption too
Up to 33 i doubt it s relevant...
@@kealahau6727 probably not on the road, but does make a little bit of a difference once you hit the tracks
I have changed the Land Cruiser to 35/12,5/16 but its only useful if you are moving in hard off-roading ! Higher fuel consume and a need of a very powerful engine is the consequence! But the performance in hard off roading is extremely better then before! The comfort is ok, also its not more noisy!
The car is still stabil on road driving! Sometimes you need some modifications on the body.
Good work fella 👍 just a quick tip - use a black sharpie to colour in your tyre weights so they don't stand out 🤘🇦🇺🔥🍻
Awesome tip mate, I would have never thought of that. Thank you legend!
Thanks for this video mate, I am in the process of changing to 15 inch rims with 32 or 33s on them but am also not looking forward to my speedo going out, it is 100% accurate against a GPS with the standard 165/75/16 BFG KO2s on them.
Hoping to find a set of 32/12.5/15s
good info man, Looking to get a 100 series and gathering info.
Cheers for that! Couldn’t recommend them higher
Once the all season tyres that came fitted from the factory wear down I will probably go for all terrains but will stick with the same 31" tyres but might increase the width to 275 or 285 as they will fit the rims I have. Currently it comes with 265/75/17 "
265/75r17 are in fact 33s. (32,6 exactly but that is common 33 metric)
We dont buy a Landcruiser yo save gas…we buy them to enjoy them and have a best life style…but thank you for the video..nice Landcruiser
Smiles per gallon not miles per gallon right? ;)
Exactly Sir👍👍👍
Shes looking good mate. Did my windscreen and small amounts of rust a couple of months ago, replaced the underlay and no more bloody smell. Running the standard 1hz ill stick to the 31s . Some nice steps or rock sliders would look good and a bit more protection 👍
Sounds like you’re ticking all the boxes! These cars will look after you forever if you look after them. I agree, definitely going for some sliders sometime! The old factory steps look a bit cheap
@@WillsLandcruiser I put a set of SCF sliders on my 105 a month or so ago, Has made it look so much better. Previous owner had put OEM style TJM side steps on which buckled at Jakem first time out. Link to the before and after is here: imgur.com/a/4eFFl8j
You're a legend mate just subscribe to the channel well done great video thanks for your help.
Bash.
Just wanted to point out what a lot of people get confused about. The tires are 2 inches taller, but that only raises the height of the vehicle by one inch since the radius went up by one inch and of course the axle rides at the height of the radius, not on top of the tire.
Its not even an inch. going to 285/75 r16 from 265/75 r16 gets you 15mm more diff clearance
Great video once again. Going from a 31 to a 33 will give you a one inch (~25mm) lift increase.
Do you cover your oil pressure gauge install in a previous video somewhere? I noticed your standard one wasn't working and had to rewind to see the bottom pod was oil pressure.....
That’s the one- more like 2 or 3cm hey 😂 Yes that’s correct, the factory oil pressure doesn’t work and hasn’t for a long time. Unfortunately I don’t have a video installing that, but I may upgrade all my gauges in the not too distant future and make a video of the install!
@@WillsLandcruiser is it still using the factory sender? Would be keen to put a separate one in mine cause my standard one sits around 3/4 on idle and H with a few revs on. Has done it for 300+k though so not too worried but be nice to know
@@ae93gti nah actually got a new sender with the gauge. SAAS isn’t very reliable but it does the trick for now, would love to get myself a set of VDO or autometer gauges, and I imagine that gauge would come with its own sender too
@@WillsLandcruiser cool, it's still better than the factory one that's for sure!
Keep up the good work!
oil pressure gauge... glad to see I'm not the only one.
A 265/75/16 is more closer to a 32 inch tyre (31.6" to be exact) and a 285/75/16 is almost a 33inch tyre (32.8" to be exact) - so the gain in height is only 15mm gain in height.
Also a lot of modern cars have an fudge factor built in from the factory when it comes to the speedo reading (ie: your speed reading may say you are doing 100kph but actually if u look on the GPS u may find u are only doing 95 or 97kph) but the Trip meter may be reading the correct distance (ie: they work independently of other).
So to get a true and correct reading u need to reset your vehicle's Trip Meter to "0" and then zero your GPS Trip Meter to "0" and then go for a drive on a reasonably "flat" road for at least 10kms or more and then compare the differences. This will give u a true and accurate comparison between the 2 different tyres.
Thanks for correcting haha. 30mm bigger tyre 15mm height gained. All about width sir so she tells me
Would you recommend a 265/70/17 on an 8.5j rim or stick with a 255/70/17? Thanks
265/70 should run fine on an 8.5. Your tyre supplier can confirm that to you, he’s basically guaranteeing it when he fits it.
I've got a gen2 Hilux and the amount of hassle I need to go through to fit 33's (body lift, diff drop, sway bar drop, steering column fix, bumpers brackets, certification, panhard rod, tyres + wheels, re-gear diff?) to gain 1" extra in clearance... I just don't think is worth it. I decided to install Spartan lockers front and rear instead. It cost me half price of what would've cost me to fit the bigger tyres and the truck is bloody capable. I guess on a 100 series with no more mods needed might worth a try...
thank you for that.
I know this is an older video, but have you thought about putting a skinnier tire on like a 255/85/16? I've been considering trying those after using 285/75/16s on my 100 with the 4.7 v8.
I do a lot of sand driving, and my aim is to generally have the widest footprint possible, so I personally would stick to the wider tyre size. Are you aiming for better fuel economy in considering a narrower tyre?
@@WillsLandcruiser a guy by the name of tinkers adventures on TH-cam did some testing and the skinny tires actually do well when aired down. The contact patch is increased length wise mainly. I figured I'd gain a little more clearance with the 255s since I think they are 33.1s or so. There might be a weight difference seen there as well.
Very informative, thanks.
Has anyone ever told you, you look like adam hills? Same facial expressions and voice. Lol
Haha that’s a new one! Thanks I guess? 😂
I decided to stay with the 265/75/16 vs going with the 285 simply because it’s really not that much of a difference and the 265’s are definitely lighter, better mpg and more accurate speedometer. The 265 is technically a lot closer to 32” with a diameter of 31.7” on the ko2. So in my opinion, the small gain really isn’t worth it, especially in my daily driver. Dedicated off road, I’d prob just go for 35’s
I got 265/70/17 Radar renegade RT's and they already look big on my ute. Most mid-sized pickup trucks and SUV's already look good on 31" or 32" tires. I know a lot of people driving around the city with 33"s and 35"s purely for aesthetics not knowing the limitations these bigger tires cause on their vehicles.
Definitely wanna put 33s on my 75. Especially because i am running 3 inches of lift and my 31s have begun to look tiny. I am just worried about loosing too much power. The n/a 1hz is already a tractor as it is.
It’s not a *major* power loss, just noticeably a little bit slower. The N/A 1hz is a tractor, but it’s definitely good having bigger tyres for that safety net on the tracks and on dirt roads
i have skinny 33" on my 75 with the 2H, its great, not really noticeable
Did you update your rims also? Or did you already have wider rims?
Same rims mate. Not sure what offset, they came with the car. Looks like they might have a slightly negative offset though
I've done 12000kms on same tyres and same car on mixed terrain they've been great but they scrub a bit and pretty noisy, I've felt the sluggishness too, my speedo is dead accurate now though... I'd go back to AT's rather than the muddies and back to 265's.
Is this a 100 series, if so did you do a solid axel conversion?
Nah mate it’s a 105. Between the 80 and the 100 series. It came out with the 1HZ and the 1FZFE I believe
@@WillsLandcruiser ahh okay so that explains why it has the solid axels
@@videshmaraj6704 yep that’s right. Factory 👍 Theyre an incredible vehicle. It’s a shame they didn’t come out with the FTE 😂
Did your jb turbo kit come with a dump pipe? Or did you have to buy that seperate?
Had to buy the dump pipe separate. It’s from PPD
@@WillsLandcruiser because I’m turbocharging my 91 troopy and getting the JB kit, also how many k’s you have on this turbo kit now?
@@adoniskatrivessis1143 hope you have some luck with that! If I had the money at the time, I would have had a bit more flexibility with exhaust choice, and would have gone for one that easily bolted straight on. Very happy with how my PPD one turned out though. And I’ve done 12,000km now with the JB turbo on and 0 dramas 😎
@@WillsLandcruiser yeah I’m buying a ppd exhaust for mine and I really do hope that I can get some luck with my engine that’s down a neat 507,000klms and before I buy the kit it’s getting new pistons and new injectors and anything else that needs replacing
@@adoniskatrivessis1143 ohhh sounds like a great project! Always love to hear about these engines getting all the works done!
What engine is in your Cruiser
Does your 100 series have a fixed axle in the front? I thought the 80 was the last fixed axle. Please clarify, thx
The 105 series was released between 1998 and 2007 and that had a live front axle
Are you in australia ؟
U know 33s over 31s.only lift diff up ,25mm/1in not 50mm/2in
Is there any difference in off road capability between a 105 and an 80?
I *think* you’ll find chassis and suspension to be almost identical. The major difference is that the 80 came out with a lot more engine options and better driveline depending on the engine
@@WillsLandcruiser thanks Will, I knew that the 80s were more popular but I was curious what the real differences were from the 105.
@@jefflangdon3540 the 105 only came out with the 1HZ and the 1FZ and a weaker driveline. I think that’s why the 80s are more popular.
When I went up from 31s to 33s on my 105 I found the speedo to be more accurate
Some cars are like that. They’re wound back so you think you’re going faster than you are with stock tyres. As far as I’m concerned that’s a newer car thing... very common with the 200 series. But I wouldn’t be surprised if it was the same with some 105s
@@WillsLandcruiser Definitely with my 200
What brand lift do you have on the 100?
Dobinsons in all the vehicles here!
Is Jack a bohemian Shepherd? He looks a lot like ly dog. He is beautiful!
Hey mate, he is a border collie X New Zealand huntaway. Two really nice breeds and all of his siblings have great nature too
@@WillsLandcruiser thanks for the response mate! Mine is a border collie x malinois but looks just like bohemian Shepherd, hence why I asked😁
The coopers are closer to 32" than 31".
Will your oil pressure is looking very low at 8:07.😵
Or maybe that gauge doesn't work. 😮
If you’re looking at the factory gauge then yep, that hasn’t ever worked 😂 My oil pressure gauge is actually the bottom one in the pillar pod
Would 33s fit without a lift, is there enough room?
Yes, Dad’s 100 series had no lift in the front for a while and it was fine. Always nicer having a lift but you’d be fine with 33s and no lift
@@WillsLandcruiser Thanks Will
@@harveysmith100 0 offset will rub if you go hard
@@nickh5773 thanks
@@nickh5773 so what offset should you go for no scrubbing??
You covered the change in acceleration when turning the bigger tyres and thus a taller gear, but a pity you missed the other side of the coin, in braking and stopping distances to pull up those bigger, heavier wheels/tyres. A missed opportunity to measure that, before and after. A spin off from this, is that the insurance company might want to know you have altered from manufacturers tyre specs, and might need confirmation of the new load and speed ratings are equal to or better than stock.
OK Karen.
@@EnlightenedRogue24 😆
That's only a problem when you run higher than 33inches in Victoria
And other states will vary
It's also known as roadworthy otherwise you have to get an engineering certificate
If they question you, the response from you should be "the car is road worthy and legal"
If you start ummming and arghhing and blabbering on about all your little mods then no shit they will throw your claim out
Yes, insurance companies will be hard on you but know your right, know the terms and conditions of your Insurance company
33s won't make that much difference to braking
Yes the driver will need to be more mindful but you are probably on the limit of what a stock vehicle with no other upgrades like brakes, can take
Stop being a ninny and get out there
33’s are still legal. Look at the tyre decal.
Hey mate, you only gained half the lift of the tyre size increase. If the tyre is 2 inches taller, you only gain half that.
Yeah you’re right mate, brain dead moment that I never picked up on until the video was up haha. I’ve had a couple
Great video, although the KM3's are Garbage sorry Will Iv'e got to disagree with you on that.
Hi Jack
17L/100km thats way to high! I have a 105 with 1HZ no turbo and i am getting 12. 17 is like towing a medium tralier.
Yeah my fuel consumption was similar N/A. Fuel consumption is gonna increase a bit when you whack a turbo on and wind the fuel screw up 😂
I also have a 1HZ 105 non turbo, I get around the 12.5 ish. Have just upgraded my tyres to the 285/75/R16 & run 45 psi in them & you would think that they were going to give me a firm ride, but no they are quite & glide along. Am very impressed with the KM3’s
@@leighbaragwanath they’re an incredible turbo. I miss my N/A fuel figures 😂 Wouldn’t personally look back from the turbo though
@@WillsLandcruiser just be careful 1HZ motors don't mind boost but if you add a bit too much fuel it's the express route to blowing to blowing a engine. I just got myself a 75 with a turbo 1HZ the previous owner turned the fuel all the way up and its eating about the same yours the main tank is 90L it has the optional 90L sub tank plus the custom tray has a tertiary 70L tank it has more fuel than my 105 but its getting less range. when I get the chance I'm taking in to get tuned with a professional behind the tuning I should be able to get a good balance between fuel economy and power hopefully down to 12 to 13 if I can achieve that when I go on trips I should be able to cross the GAB without refulling.
@@phalanx3803 all very true mate, I’m glad you’re aware of the risks. I have had this professionally dyno tuned by High Performance Diesel, and it’s handling it like a champ. EGTs never about 400° when pushing hard, boost no more than 14psi, it loves it. I’ve done it very safely. I cover this in some of my earlier videos too
oiii mateee my names will and i got an 80 too ahaha
Love it 😂🙌🏼
How do you gain 4 or 5cm in height when your new tyres radius is only 2.5cm bigger.???????????
That was my bad mate, meant to re-record that bit. Gained 10cm from the lift and yeah about 2.5cm from the tyres
@Daniel Sweeney
The 75 means the SideWall height is 75%. of the Tyre Width.
why such poor fuel economy for a mostly stock cruiser? no parachute of a roof rack, heavy rear bar and sliders etc etc.
Steel cap boots 😂
@@WillsLandcruiser that would explain it. not too familiar with cruisers, is that a 1kz non turbo? how are they to drive. Also you multiply by 100 because its l/100km. doesnt matter where you multiply it it works out the same. otherwise you will work out L/km
I think 285 is perfect on my 80.
Whats Jack huntaway /boarder collie cross looks like he has ears. Hahahahaha
Haha yeah that’s the one! Huntaway/border collie. He has a lot more collie in him, where his brother has a lot more huntaway in him
@@WillsLandcruiser we had a huntaway x beardy, looked like a beardy but barked like a huntaway his name was Jack too one of the smartest dogs we ever owned. Cheers mate.
@@Tangaroa775 huntaways are incredible smart genes! Our paddock dog will steer the mob of sheep based on which way the ute is facing. Probably my favourite breed of dog. They’re just a little docile in the yards sometimes
go for the 295s !
Shout me some 305’s? 😁
@@WillsLandcruiser - you might need a 2.5” lift plus 30mm spring spacers and 1.5”wheel spacers , but go for it man!
Host doesn't mention the correct tire size, only says: 265/75 or 285/75. Correct tire sizes, for example: 265/75/R16, 17 or 18. That does not help the DIYer when researching tire sizes. Otherwise, great video. Ty.
He did mention on 16" rim
V8 dont care about 33’s 🤙🏼
17l per 100 Wow I get better than that towing a 2.9t caravan
dude wouldnt even know what 4wding is