Love this incorporation of running gear with casual fits, when I ran track in Highschool the nike flyknit free run line just came out and I wore those 24/7. I still wear them to this day
You answered my exact question, I wanted to try the Hoka because minimalist shoes were not working and Nike/ adidas don't have enough support. I couldn't find the bondi in my size but i'l try the clifton since its on their store. I also liked the style ideas in the end, you earned yourself a subscriber :)
i have the hoka bondi x engineered garments in black an they work great with the whole relaxed japanese aesthetic with brands like yohji, cdg and uniqlo for example. really like the minimalist look on this collaboration, with almost no branding :)
So sorry. You’re wrong. I LOVED the Bondi 5 I had 3 Pairs. Baught the Bondi 6. HORRIBLE UPPER. Lost its shape after a couple months. NOW I purchased the BONDI 7 and WOW!!! The upper is so much better, more structure without and rubbing. The rear padding is significantly thicker with memory foam. I highly recomend you try the Bondi 7. The rubber sole is the same. A much better uprage from the 6. Sorry.
Stack Height Comparisons Stinson 5 & 6 trail: Model 5 Number: 1099729 Model 6 Number: 1110506 39 Heel / 34 Toe : 5 drop Bondi 6 & 7: Model 6 Number: 1019269 Model 7 Number: 1110518-WDDS 37 Heel / 33 Toe : 4 drop TenNine: Model Number: 1109689-DLRC 37 Heel / 33 Toe : 4 drop Mafate EVO 35 Heel / 31 Toe : 4 drop Carbon X-SPE 35 Heel : 30 Toe : 5 drop Elevon 2: Model Number: 1106477 35 Heel / 30 Toe : 5 drop Clifton Edge: Model Number: 1110510-NCLR 33 Heel / 28 Toe : 5 drop Clifton 6: Model 6 Number: 1102872 33 Heel / 28 Toe : drop 5 Clifton 7: Model Number: 1110508 32 Heel / 27 Toe : drop 5 Rincon 1 & 2 Model 1 Number: 1102874 Model 2 Number: 1110514 32 Heel / 27 Toe : 5 drop Challenger ATR 5 Model Number: 1104093-EBLC 31 Heel / 26 Toe : 5 drop
Got a pair of Bondi 6 for around 100 Euro here in Germany. I don't think they will get any cheaper. Hoka is like Apple or Nintendo. They don't get very cheap and are quite limited. I remember how often the first Rincons were sold out even on the Hoka website. Crazy. Anyway, I needed a new long/ezpz running shoe. Great video, new sub and greetings from Munich to Munich? :)
Yes, thats probably the floor price.. Such a good deal, dont you think? 100 bucks for such a long-lasting shoe.. Greeting back from Munich to Munich ;-)
Get the Bondi 7 new color turbulence/chili. Looks great! Besides being great for running or judt being on your feet all day, they will look really good with blue jeans too. Check them out. They don't look so dadsish. I think they're really cool. Can't wait until mine arrive. What country are you in. Dig your stash.
@@DavidMoseer Wow, I found your channel while looking at videos about Hokas. Afterward I click on another video of yours where you were talking about CCP and showed your CCP jacket and some of his shoes and boots. Those Derby shoes made me hard! so to speak. Man, I love them. But I looked them up and saw the price and wilted. I'll have to wait and hope to find a three hundred year old pair of leather shoes in a barn loft in somewhere like Salem, Massachusetts instead. Loved them. And the boots etc. I'm kinda obsessed with those shoes now! The roll over ones too. I didnt know this asthetic would be appreciated by so many people that a thriving business could be made. I'm glad to learn some of my fellow humans have heart and can see the beauty there. Love them. I'll look at more of your videos here. Ive already learned a lot from you. Are you a designer? Artist? I'm American living in the south. But some years back lived for six years near you in Central Europe. Man, I have a feeling I'll be learning lots from you. Glad to discover you. I also noticed that most of those shoes are small sizes. But you look like you have good sized feet too. They're a pleasure to just to look at anyway.
I'm new to Hokas, I have the Bondi 6 and I must say they are my favorite all-time sneaker! I have already ordered 2 more pair and now I want to try the Clifton 6!
I have the Bondi 7s and Mach 4s and love them both. If I had to choose one shoe it would hands down be the Bondi 7. I have 350 miles on them right now and they still feel amazing!
Agree don't have to buy 7s of either Bondi or Clifton if thinking of getting 1st pair and can get deep discounts... Ex: $160 Bondi 7 $120 Bondi 6 For road only & less technical I'd suggest trying new Stinson ATR 6 as it's insanely comfortable, plush, pillowy & stable... Stinson 6 Better than walking on clouds or pillows after I replaced original insoles with max cushion, custom fit & formed insoles for each foot... Stinson 6 is already very plush, soft, cushy, but not squishy, mushy, etc... Fit like glove... Fit like wet suit... I have Bondi 6 & Just Got Stinson ATR 6... Stinson 6 They are good enough for someone on budget, which I'm not, to get and i feel can be used instead of Bondi's or Clifton's... Stinson 6 is nothing like stinson 5 in fit or feel... On gravel path you showed in video. Try Stinson 6, see how it fits, feel, works on paths you run... And if you happen to have road runner sports shop around get some max custom insoles... You can order shoes from hoka & try out for 60 days during Pandemic & get full refund if you don't like so there's no risk... But i think you'll like it... I try buy all black uppers & midsoles so i can wear them with other clothes... If one is very confident & comfortable with themselves you don't have to worry about styles so much or what's current trend... If you like something, ware it & you can possibly be next trend setter... There's talk about parents shoes... There's talk about barefoot or minimalist There's talk about maximum cushion & looking geriatric... It's all a matter of personal preference... Wearing shoes for style only is different than wearing for comfort & performance... Some of fastest long distances, ultraarathons ( 26+ miles / 42+ km ) races on road or trail have been won by those wearing Hokas... When Carbon X first came out Hoka had some of the best long distance runners from all over the world run one road race of 100km / ~62 miles in Sacramento CA, USA... And goal was to see who could get Fastest Know Times ever recorded for following distances: 50 km / ~31 miles & 100km / ~62 miles... Race was recorded & shared live... Jim Walmsley set 50 mile World Record ( faster than any other human at that time ) in newly released Carbon X that were regular production shoes anyone could by... I brought pair at i think was $200 at time and loved everything about shoe... Super Light... Super Great Awesome Fit... Color, Etc... But shoe just didn't feel right for me so i returned them... I've got pair of Clifton Edge's and some people say they look like clown shoes because of the exaggerated extension of the heel... And they say they would never wear shoes like that in public... But i looked at all available youtube videos & reviews at time they first came out & were first released & decided to get a pair to improve downhill speeds based on girl's TH-cam review named Mary Beth... And I'm so glad I did as the Clifton Edge's are simply Amazing... I won't go into details... But i flew down the hills in complete abandon ( though i was still consciously in control ) with complete confidence & faith in way shoe made me feel... My point is... You have to experiment to find what's right for you & your needs whatever they are... Don't let anyone make up your mind for you... Try shoes out for yourself... And there are many retail & online shoe stores that have 30, 60 & 90 day return policies, customer satisfaction 100% guaranteed, full refund... So you've got nothing to lose except finding the perfect shoe for you... To start out, if you're not sure of your size, go to local retailer that carries shoe, style, type / function you're interested in... Don't worry about color initially... Try determine if your pronation is: Neutral : Foot Doesn't Roll Excessively inward nor outward... OverPronation Foot rolls excessively inward Supination: Foot rolls outward when landing Then look for shoes that meet your needs... Better local retail running shoe shops will have highly specialized equipment to measure your feet & tell you practically everything you need to know to select best type of shoe for your feet whether it's: Road, Trail, Track shoe... Just try lots of similar shoes from several brands & manufacturers.... Once you find shoe that fits you really well & it's designed for what you plan to use it for, see if they have color you like in stock, if not check online to see if they have color you like... Online inventory /selection for same local retailer online is usually a lot larger than than any retail store... Once you've found what you like compare prices with other retail & online stores... Prices can vary substantially between stores & even when joining a membership for a given store... Once you've find correct size, great fit, comfortable, correct room in all the right places ( toes especially ), etc... You've found good or best price... They have great return policy ( try it minimum 30 days , but I would go with 60 or 90 days to have more time to.try & not be rushed )... Order it or buy locally... If it doesn't fit good when you try it on at home, then there's no need testing it outside & getting it dirty. Return it and get larger, smaller, wider, narrower; depending on what you need... If fit is good, try walking around in house ( on carpet, tile )... If passes above two test then & only then try it outside... Really test shoe at first on flat, ground... If that's good, test in environments you plan to use shoe in... Try it for as many days necessary to determine shoe is right for you... Don't abuse return policy by wearing shoe for whole duration of return policy and shoe felt good but you want to return it so you can get different shoe... Be fair & honest... Best of Success & Enjoyment... May You Find Perfect Shoe for You... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I used to be Exclusively Nike & Nothing but Nike... Then Brooks & Nothing but Brooks... Then Combo between New Balance & Hoka... First time I tried Hokas I Hated Them. Didn't Like Rocking Chair Effect / Feeling they call Meta-Rocker... The Meta-Rocker / Rocking Chair Effect was extremely exaggerated in Clifton 5... What brought me back to Hoka 8 to 10 months later was need for cushion on long steep uneven, non-paved, bumpy, downhill trails... Once i tried Stinson 5, Then Challenger 5, Then EVO Mafate, Then Bondi 6, Then Clifton 6, Then Clifton Edge, Then Rincon 1 & 2, I was Hooked & Then Got Stinson 6, Bondi 7, Clifton 7... Again... I fell in love with plush, comfy cushion, not squishy nor mushy, good room in toe box for toes to freely wiggle, no slippage in heel, fits comfortable & stable... Practically all of Hokas I own have basically straight, rectangular, non-curvy outsole... I'm not into racing or competition on tracks or any dashes ( 40, 50, 60, 100 yrds ) nor 200, 400, 5Ks, 10Ks, etc... I Love Outdoors... I Do Long & Short Distance I Do Road & Trails I Do Flat, Rolling & Steep Terrain Paved, Gravel, Rocky, Roots, Deep Pocket... I Compete Against Myself With All sorts of Apps, Heart Rate Monitors & Garmin 1030 Cycle computer to record temperatures, heart rates, grade, altitude, cadence / pace speed, distsnce... min, avg, max, current of all the above Start Time Stop Time Paused Time Moving Time Etc... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bottom Line... If you're not enjoying yourself & having fun in the end... What's point...
Side note: Looking at your running, maybe its just because you took a video of it but it seems as if you're more often landing on your foot flat and on your heel. Occasionally you land on your forefoot, you probably know this but if you dont make sure you always run on your fore foot first, greatly improves literally everything.
Thanks man. Not a big fan of the 5 fingers but I love Vibram in general.. Different appraoches to running I guess. And regardinv my running form: yeah I am working on those tight hip flexors..
Thanks for the video, I tried Clifton 7 and Bondi 7 on, Bondi 7 is more cushioned, Clifton 7 is a bit stiff. I'm 5"7, about 145 pounds, I run 3 or 4 times a week.
I'm your height but 185. Stocky build. Not a runner but a very active person. Im always looking for the cushiest/plushiest shoes I can find. Would the Bondi or Clifton be ok for a heavy and active individual?
@@jessa.3857 I have walked/jogged in Bondi’s for a year now. I’m looking to get a new pair and trying to decide if I want Clifton or another pair of Bondi’s. You could definitely wear Bondi’s. They are super comfy. No rubbing or breaking in. Pure comfort!! They are just bulky. Other than that perfect.
@@allyboo65 yes, I found them too bulky as well. They felt too 'clunky' to me when I walked and did most of my training. I suppose the thickness of the sole is the culprit. They were comfortable otherwise. I swapped them out for the Clifton 8s which are much better! Only problem I ran into with the Cliftons is that they may be too narrow for my feet as it aggravates my Hallux Rigidus on my right foot. Should've gotten the wide version.
Thanks Jean! I try to incorporate running every now and then.. Definitely some cool running content lined up for the next weeks! Thanks for the support 🙏🏼
I’m currently trying to decide between the Clifton and bondi. I need something to take the pressure off of my knees. Which would you recommend if you had to choose one? I have to order online so I can’t try them on.
I'm still thinking about getting the bondi 7. Not for running but for a job that has me standing for 8 hours. Would you still recommend the 6 over the 7 in this case?
For me it’s the bondi I couldn’t believe the cushion in the shoe the most comfortable I have ever had and I work 12 hour days and work in them and my feet are not sore like they used to be in Nike and adidas let us know what pair u get
@@Andre-yj8dd Bondi MUCH heavier and clunky. They will last longer than the Clifton. What is surprising is with all that stack they are not soft, just lots of stack. They are OK for slow long runs where you are just grinding it out. The Clifton's give you a much better ride, softer but also springy for a little speed (but still not fast). They are a better everyday trainer and I have also taken them on runs well over 20km with no problems. Both are good but if I could only have one I would go for the Clifton. But each to their own.
Frankly speaking I have tried walking with running shoes for prolonged periods. In general they are not comfortable after certain period. Anyway the outfit and combination is great. Just not sure about how comfortable will be for long walks.
Tip: Hoka One One Challenger low - just purchased them last week, very good walking shoes (and I have high expectations when it comes to walking/running shoes)
I just bought a pair of Clifton 6. I found them to be very narrow. Had to send them back. Gonna try the wide fitting, maybe even go with the Bondi 6 wide.
It is often said that Hoka shoes have an issue with durability on outsole and midsole that went flat even after 200km run, (mostly from Rincon though) What were your thoughts and experiences with Clifton and Bondi 6?
Very comfortable, started using black pair of my Clifton at work where walk a lot and casually, they are great! But have you or anyone noticed a "bottom out" affect when running faster with Clifton? My Nike Air React seem springy even when running faster or jump on shoe, Clifton seems to be very nicely cushioned but heel seems firm and has shock if jump on rear or run fast compared to my Nike Air Max React. Very comfortable and stable shoe love the Clifton, got them to help my Shin Split. Drop is great for my foot believe its 4 or 5mm. Doesn't instigate shin. Finally, do others notice they are narrow? Front of my foot seems to sit over side edge of foot bed a bit. I have regular width feet, doesnt happen in my Nikes or Asics.
For technical trails... For less technical new Stinson ATR 6 is insanely comfortable, plush, pillowy & stable... Stinson 6 Better than walking on clouds or pillows after I replaced original insoles with max cushion, custom fit & formed insoles for each foot... Stinson 6 is already very plush, soft, cushy, but not squishy, mushy, etc... Fit like glove... Fit like wet suit... I have Bondi 6 & Just Got Stinson ATR 6... They are good enough for someone on budget, which I'm not, to get and i feel can be used instead of Bondi's or Clifton's... Stinson 6 is nothing like stinson 5 in fit or feel... On gravel path you showed in video... Speedgoat would be over kill... Try Stinson 6, see how it fits, feel, works on paths you run... And if you happen to have road runner sports shop around get some max custom insoles... You can order shoes from hoka & try out for 60 days during Pandemic & get full refund if you don't like so there's no risk... But i think you'll like it... I try buy all black uppers & midsoles so i can wear them with other clothes... If one is very confident & comfortable with themselves you don't have to worry about styles so much or what's current trend... If you like something where it & you can possibly next trend setter... There's talk about parents shoes... There's talk about barefoot or minimalist There's talk about maximum cushion & looking geriatric... It's all a matter of personal preference... Wesring shoes for style only is different than wearing for comfort & performance... Some of fastest long distances, ultraarathons ( 26+ miles / 42+ km ) races on road or trail have been one by those wearing Hokas... When Carbon X first came out Hoka had some of the best long distance runners from all over the world run one road race of 100km / ~62 miles in Sacramento CA, USA... And goal was to see who could get Fastest Know Times ever recorded for following distances: 50 km / ~31 miles & 100km / ~62 miles... Race was recorded & shared live... Jim Walmsley set 50 mile World Record ( faster than any other human at that time ) in newly released Carbon X that were regular production shoes anyone could by... I brought pair at i think was $200 at time and loved everything about shoe... Super Light... Super Great Awesome Fit... Color, Etc... But shoe just didn't feel right for me so i returned them... I've got pair of Clifton Clifton Edge's and some people say they look like clown shows because of the exaggerated extension of the heel... And they say they would never wear shoe like that in public... But i looked at all available youtube videos & reviews at time they first came they were first released & decided to get a pair to improve downhill speed based on girl's TH-cam review named
@@alexter001122 I prefer the black tbh.. The white is very shiny. I just bought the white bc I already have had 2 black pairs and I running on both.. Look-wise I prefer the black, especially when you wanna wear them casually
It’s pretty strange how I absolutely NEVER run, but still watch your videos entirely lol. Oh and also son, you are at 1,5K subs, how time flies right?^^
I bought my first pair of Bondi and almost every run my left, mostly forefoot area go numb. I don’t wear them too tight and I even loosened them even more and no luck. Any advice?
Love this incorporation of running gear with casual fits, when I ran track in Highschool the nike flyknit free run line just came out and I wore those 24/7. I still wear them to this day
Oh nice the flyknit free run is a dope shoe!
Same here
You answered my exact question, I wanted to try the Hoka because minimalist shoes were not working and Nike/ adidas don't have enough support. I couldn't find the bondi in my size but i'l try the clifton since its on their store. I also liked the style ideas in the end, you earned yourself a subscriber :)
Your thumbnail says "don't buy the bondi and clifton 7"
And the only reason is the 6 is cheaper?
i have the hoka bondi x engineered garments in black an they work great with the whole relaxed japanese aesthetic with brands like yohji, cdg and uniqlo for example. really like the minimalist look on this collaboration, with almost no branding :)
Thats true! I have seen some great fit pics with Hokas on IG.. They can really work well
Love your channel. Good stuff. Finally someone I can relate too
I've been rocking rincons for a year now and I love them.
Hoka shoes are amazing, for styling I think Engineered Garments styles them extremely well
Agreed Joshua!
So sorry. You’re wrong. I LOVED the Bondi 5 I had 3 Pairs. Baught the Bondi 6. HORRIBLE UPPER. Lost its shape after a couple months. NOW I purchased the BONDI 7 and WOW!!! The upper is so much better, more structure without and rubbing. The rear padding is significantly thicker with memory foam. I highly recomend you try the Bondi 7. The rubber sole is the same. A much better uprage from the 6. Sorry.
Bro love for this, video sold me from recover to causal daily fits. Kee doing ur thing g.
Stack Height Comparisons
Stinson 5 & 6 trail:
Model 5 Number: 1099729
Model 6 Number: 1110506
39 Heel / 34 Toe : 5 drop
Bondi 6 & 7:
Model 6 Number: 1019269
Model 7 Number: 1110518-WDDS
37 Heel / 33 Toe : 4 drop
TenNine:
Model Number: 1109689-DLRC
37 Heel / 33 Toe : 4 drop
Mafate EVO
35 Heel / 31 Toe : 4 drop
Carbon X-SPE
35 Heel : 30 Toe : 5 drop
Elevon 2:
Model Number: 1106477
35 Heel / 30 Toe : 5 drop
Clifton Edge:
Model Number: 1110510-NCLR
33 Heel / 28 Toe : 5 drop
Clifton 6:
Model 6 Number: 1102872
33 Heel / 28 Toe : drop 5
Clifton 7:
Model Number: 1110508
32 Heel / 27 Toe : drop 5
Rincon 1 & 2
Model 1 Number: 1102874
Model 2 Number: 1110514
32 Heel / 27 Toe : 5 drop
Challenger ATR 5
Model Number: 1104093-EBLC
31 Heel / 26 Toe : 5 drop
Waited 2years for the Bondi 7 ,same shoe buy the Bondi 6 on sale now save $30 ..Good video .
Fully agree, thanks mate!
Thanks!!
Plain white shoes is always fashionable. Just make sure you wear no show socks. 👍😁
Got a pair of Bondi 6 for around 100 Euro here in Germany. I don't think they will get any cheaper. Hoka is like Apple or Nintendo. They don't get very cheap and are quite limited. I remember how often the first Rincons were sold out even on the Hoka website. Crazy. Anyway, I needed a new long/ezpz running shoe. Great video, new sub and greetings from Munich to Munich? :)
Yes, thats probably the floor price.. Such a good deal, dont you think? 100 bucks for such a long-lasting shoe.. Greeting back from Munich to Munich ;-)
pretty good fits! Now i'm really interested to get some hokas myself haha
Great video! Thanks for the heads up! As a fellow runner and TH-camr I know how much goes into these videos! Keep posting... I just subscribed!
Thanks mate, means a lot from a fellow youtuber! Keep up the great work!
Get the Bondi 7 new color turbulence/chili. Looks great! Besides being great for running or judt being on your feet all day, they will look really good with blue jeans too. Check them out. They don't look so dadsish. I think they're really cool. Can't wait until mine arrive.
What country are you in. Dig your stash.
Oh yeah thats a sweet color indeed! Looking forward to what you think! I am based in Munich, Germany.. Cheers
@@DavidMoseer Wow, I found your channel while looking at videos about Hokas. Afterward I click on another video of yours where you were talking about CCP and showed your CCP jacket and some of his shoes and boots. Those Derby shoes made me hard! so to speak. Man, I love them. But I looked them up and saw the price and wilted. I'll have to wait and hope to find a three hundred year old pair of leather shoes in a barn loft in somewhere like Salem, Massachusetts instead. Loved them. And the boots etc. I'm kinda obsessed with those shoes now! The roll over ones too. I didnt know this asthetic would be appreciated by so many people that a thriving business could be made. I'm glad to learn some of my fellow humans have heart and can see the beauty there. Love them. I'll look at more of your videos here. Ive already learned a lot from you. Are you a designer? Artist?
I'm American living in the south. But some years back lived for six years near you in Central Europe. Man, I have a feeling I'll be learning lots from you. Glad to discover you.
I also noticed that most of those shoes are small sizes. But you look like you have good sized feet too. They're a pleasure to just to look at anyway.
I'm new to Hokas, I have the Bondi 6 and I must say they are my favorite all-time sneaker! I have already ordered 2 more pair and now I want to try the Clifton 6!
have you try the clifton 6? still confuse what should i choose
I’ve loved Hoka for a few years but only recently tried the Bondi 6. I’m in love. Hoping to get some on sale soon!
I hope so too! Such a great shoe!!
They're on sale now for $120 on Hoka website. Saving of $40 per shoe...
@David Moseer - did you see the Bondi 7 has a monochrome red option in men's? I love them and pre-ordered them.
I have the Bondi 7s and Mach 4s and love them both. If I had to choose one shoe it would hands down be the Bondi 7. I have 350 miles on them right now and they still feel amazing!
Agree don't have to buy 7s of either Bondi or Clifton if thinking of getting 1st pair and can get deep discounts...
Ex:
$160 Bondi 7
$120 Bondi 6
For road only & less technical I'd suggest trying new Stinson ATR 6 as it's insanely comfortable, plush, pillowy & stable...
Stinson 6
Better than walking on clouds or pillows after I replaced original insoles with max cushion, custom fit & formed insoles for each foot...
Stinson 6 is already very plush, soft, cushy, but not squishy, mushy, etc...
Fit like glove...
Fit like wet suit...
I have Bondi 6 & Just Got Stinson ATR 6...
Stinson 6
They are good enough for someone on budget, which I'm not, to get and i feel can be used instead of Bondi's or Clifton's...
Stinson 6 is nothing like stinson 5 in fit or feel...
On gravel path you showed in video.
Try Stinson 6, see how it fits, feel, works on paths you run...
And if you happen to have road runner sports shop around get some max custom insoles...
You can order shoes from hoka & try out for 60 days during Pandemic & get full refund if you don't like so there's no risk...
But i think you'll like it...
I try buy all black uppers & midsoles so i can wear them with other clothes...
If one is very confident & comfortable with themselves you don't have to worry about styles so much or what's current trend...
If you like something, ware it & you can possibly be next trend setter...
There's talk about parents shoes...
There's talk about barefoot or minimalist
There's talk about maximum cushion & looking geriatric...
It's all a matter of personal preference...
Wearing shoes for style only is different than wearing for comfort & performance...
Some of fastest long distances, ultraarathons ( 26+ miles / 42+ km ) races on road or trail have been won by those wearing Hokas...
When Carbon X first came out Hoka had some of the best long distance runners from all over the world run one road race of 100km / ~62 miles in Sacramento CA, USA...
And goal was to see who could get Fastest Know Times ever recorded for following distances:
50 km / ~31 miles & 100km / ~62 miles...
Race was recorded & shared live...
Jim Walmsley set 50 mile World Record ( faster than any other human at that time ) in newly released Carbon X that were regular production shoes anyone could by...
I brought pair at i think was $200 at time and loved everything about shoe...
Super Light...
Super Great Awesome Fit...
Color, Etc...
But shoe just didn't feel right for me so i returned them...
I've got pair of Clifton Edge's and some people say they look like clown shoes because of the exaggerated extension of the heel...
And they say they would never wear shoes like that in public...
But i looked at all available youtube videos & reviews at time they first came out & were first released & decided to get a pair to improve downhill speeds based on girl's TH-cam review named Mary Beth...
And I'm so glad I did as the Clifton Edge's are simply Amazing...
I won't go into details...
But i flew down the hills in complete abandon ( though i was still consciously in control ) with complete confidence & faith in way shoe made me feel...
My point is...
You have to experiment to find what's right for you & your needs whatever they are...
Don't let anyone make up your mind for you...
Try shoes out for yourself...
And there are many retail & online shoe stores that have 30, 60 & 90 day return policies, customer satisfaction 100% guaranteed, full refund...
So you've got nothing to lose except finding the perfect shoe for you...
To start out, if you're not sure of your size, go to local retailer that carries shoe, style, type / function you're interested in...
Don't worry about color initially...
Try determine if your pronation is:
Neutral :
Foot Doesn't Roll Excessively inward nor outward...
OverPronation
Foot rolls excessively inward
Supination:
Foot rolls outward when landing
Then look for shoes that meet your needs...
Better local retail running shoe shops will have highly specialized equipment to measure your feet & tell you practically everything you need to know to select best type of shoe for your feet whether it's: Road, Trail, Track shoe...
Just try lots of similar shoes from several brands & manufacturers....
Once you find shoe that fits you really well & it's designed for what you plan to use it for, see if they have color you like in stock, if not check online to see if they have color you like...
Online inventory /selection for same local retailer online is usually a lot larger than than any retail store...
Once you've found what you like compare prices with other retail & online stores...
Prices can vary substantially between stores & even when joining a membership for a given store...
Once you've find correct size, great fit, comfortable, correct room in all the right places ( toes especially ), etc...
You've found good or best price...
They have great return policy ( try it minimum 30 days , but I would go with 60 or 90 days to have more time to.try & not be rushed )...
Order it or buy locally...
If it doesn't fit good when you try it on at home, then there's no need testing it outside & getting it dirty. Return it and get larger, smaller, wider, narrower; depending on what you need...
If fit is good, try walking around in house ( on carpet, tile )...
If passes above two test then & only then try it outside...
Really test shoe at first on flat, ground...
If that's good, test in environments you plan to use shoe in...
Try it for as many days necessary to determine shoe is right for you...
Don't abuse return policy by wearing shoe for whole duration of return policy and shoe felt good but you want to return it so you can get different shoe...
Be fair & honest...
Best of Success & Enjoyment...
May You Find Perfect Shoe for You...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I used to be Exclusively Nike & Nothing but Nike...
Then Brooks & Nothing but Brooks...
Then Combo between New Balance & Hoka...
First time I tried Hokas I Hated Them. Didn't Like Rocking Chair Effect / Feeling they call Meta-Rocker...
The Meta-Rocker / Rocking Chair Effect was extremely exaggerated in Clifton 5...
What brought me back to Hoka 8 to 10 months later was need for cushion on long steep uneven, non-paved, bumpy, downhill trails...
Once i tried Stinson 5, Then Challenger 5, Then EVO Mafate, Then Bondi 6, Then Clifton 6, Then Clifton Edge, Then Rincon 1 & 2, I was Hooked & Then Got Stinson 6, Bondi 7, Clifton 7...
Again...
I fell in love with plush, comfy cushion, not squishy nor mushy, good room in toe box for toes to freely wiggle, no slippage in heel, fits comfortable & stable...
Practically all of Hokas I own have basically straight, rectangular, non-curvy outsole...
I'm not into racing or competition on tracks or any dashes ( 40, 50, 60, 100 yrds ) nor 200, 400, 5Ks, 10Ks, etc...
I Love Outdoors...
I Do Long & Short Distance
I Do Road & Trails
I Do Flat, Rolling & Steep Terrain
Paved, Gravel, Rocky, Roots, Deep Pocket...
I Compete Against Myself With All sorts of Apps, Heart Rate Monitors & Garmin 1030 Cycle computer to record temperatures, heart rates, grade, altitude, cadence / pace speed, distsnce...
min, avg, max, current of all the above
Start Time
Stop Time
Paused Time
Moving Time
Etc...
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Bottom Line...
If you're not enjoying yourself & having fun in the end...
What's point...
wow now thats detailed! :D THANKS!
Love the outfit segment!!!
Thanks! :-)
Awesome video as per usual! What do you think about Vibram 5 fingers ?
Side note: Looking at your running, maybe its just because you took a video of it but it seems as if you're more often landing on your foot flat and on your heel. Occasionally you land on your forefoot, you probably know this but if you dont make sure you always run on your fore foot first, greatly improves literally everything.
Thanks man. Not a big fan of the 5 fingers but I love Vibram in general.. Different appraoches to running I guess. And regardinv my running form: yeah I am working on those tight hip flexors..
Great vid like always . Stay safe you and your family .
Thanks man you too! 🙏🏼
Thanks for the video, I tried Clifton 7 and Bondi 7 on, Bondi 7 is more cushioned, Clifton 7 is a bit stiff. I'm 5"7, about 145 pounds, I run 3 or 4 times a week.
@loan writer Clifton
I'm your height but 185. Stocky build. Not a runner but a very active person. Im always looking for the cushiest/plushiest shoes I can find. Would the Bondi or Clifton be ok for a heavy and active individual?
@@jessa.3857 I have walked/jogged in Bondi’s for a year now. I’m looking to get a new pair and trying to decide if I want Clifton or another pair of Bondi’s.
You could definitely wear Bondi’s. They are super comfy. No rubbing or breaking in. Pure comfort!! They are just bulky. Other than that perfect.
@@allyboo65 yes, I found them too bulky as well. They felt too 'clunky' to me when I walked and did most of my training. I suppose the thickness of the sole is the culprit. They were comfortable otherwise. I swapped them out for the Clifton 8s which are much better! Only problem I ran into with the Cliftons is that they may be too narrow for my feet as it aggravates my Hallux Rigidus on my right foot. Should've gotten the wide version.
thanks for showing full body with outfit
i was going to buy them as a gift and i needed to see that to decide XD
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Those runners are brilliant
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Can you throw them in the washer? Or how do you keep them clean and fresh smelling after so many miles of running in various elements?
U can’t put them in the washer if u want to keep them fresh u have to clean them right away after each run that’s what I do
Hey David! New subscriber here, gotta say I love your vids and this recent(?)running stuff
Thanks Jean! I try to incorporate running every now and then.. Definitely some cool running content lined up for the next weeks! Thanks for the support 🙏🏼
@@DavidMoseer can't wait to see what you've got in store for us : ). By the way do you know bliss foster?
Yes I do.. (not personally) very knowledgable guy!
I’m currently trying to decide between the Clifton and bondi. I need something to take the pressure off of my knees. Which would you recommend if you had to choose one? I have to order online so I can’t try them on.
Always go in the store and try them all
I'm still thinking about getting the bondi 7. Not for running but for a job that has me standing for 8 hours. Would you still recommend the 6 over the 7 in this case?
No, I think both models work just fine for that. Then I would go for looks and price!
Are Hoka's heels actually thicker than Nike or other sport shoes? I am looking for few extra centimeters
Depends on the model.. the bondi def has the biggest sole i have ever seen ✌🏽
got 2 pair of Hoka Bondi yellow and black on clearance sale 25$ CDN each in Toronto, I don't run but they look great with my Nike cargos.
Wow thats an awesome deal!
This video was dope and helpful!!
Awesome video! I guess I’m buying some Bondi 6 shoes today!
Good choice! 👐🏼
Thanks for a great comparison, I walk a lot and can't run anymore, which one is more suitable. 👍
I would probably recommend the Clifton as it has enough cushioning but isnt as high as the Bondi which might feel weird when walking..
For me it’s the bondi I couldn’t believe the cushion in the shoe the most comfortable I have ever had and I work 12 hour days and work in them and my feet are not sore like they used to be in Nike and adidas let us know what pair u get
Bought the 6 (3rd pair) today for £80 inc delivery. Toptastic. Also run in the Bondi 5 & 6 and ok but Clifton much much better.
what is the reason clifton much much better? still confuse what should i pick because i jus got shin splints
@@Andre-yj8dd Bondi MUCH heavier and clunky. They will last longer than the Clifton. What is surprising is with all that stack they are not soft, just lots of stack. They are OK for slow long runs where you are just grinding it out. The Clifton's give you a much better ride, softer but also springy for a little speed (but still not fast). They are a better everyday trainer and I have also taken them on runs well over 20km with no problems. Both are good but if I could only have one I would go for the Clifton. But each to their own.
Frankly speaking I have tried walking with running shoes for prolonged periods. In general they are not comfortable after certain period. Anyway the outfit and combination is great. Just not sure about how comfortable will be for long walks.
Tip: Hoka One One Challenger low - just purchased them last week, very good walking shoes (and I have high expectations when it comes to walking/running shoes)
I just bought a pair of Clifton 6. I found them to be very narrow. Had to send them back. Gonna try the wide fitting, maybe even go with the Bondi 6 wide.
Oh interesting... yeah Imhave pretty narrow feet.. the bondi is a great shoe!
It is often said that Hoka shoes have an issue with durability on outsole and midsole that went flat even after 200km run, (mostly from Rincon though) What were your thoughts and experiences with Clifton and Bondi 6?
I have ran 900+ km in the clifton 6 and no outsole issues wahtsoever. Might just be the Rincon..
Among the lines, Rincon has the least durability. Mines are Bondi 5 and Clifton 6, are still good after 4 years
Very comfortable, started using black pair of my Clifton at work where walk a lot and casually, they are great! But have you or anyone noticed a "bottom out" affect when running faster with Clifton? My Nike Air React seem springy even when running faster or jump on shoe, Clifton seems to be very nicely cushioned but heel seems firm and has shock if jump on rear or run fast compared to my Nike Air Max React. Very comfortable and stable shoe love the Clifton, got them to help my Shin Split. Drop is great for my foot believe its 4 or 5mm. Doesn't instigate shin.
Finally, do others notice they are narrow? Front of my foot seems to sit over side edge of foot bed a bit. I have regular width feet, doesnt happen in my Nikes or Asics.
which would be best for shin splints? clifton or bondi
I would probably consult a doctor or specialist for that. I would say the bondi is better though as it is more forgiving than the clifton..
Finally buy bondi 6. I try bondi 7 i think the 7 more stiff. People say Clifton 6 is more plush than bondi 6. Is that true?
I dont have the feeling but if many people say there must be truth behind it
David Moseer thank you for your reply David
Thanks for the review and information
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Would the Bondi 7 or Bondi 6 be good for walking in a city college campus all day? I tried them on and I loved how they felt.
So do I. Good for standing and walking the whole day. If it is good for marathon, it will absolutely be better for walking.
I’ve been pronouncing it wrong all this time! Thank you lol
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Hello. Which of these 2 would be best for a wider foot? Thank you
Both are available in a wide option. Check the Hoka website ✌🏽
Get the speedgoats!! Perfect trail shoe imo
I literally just got them a week ago! Video coming in a week ✌🏼
For technical trails...
For less technical new Stinson ATR 6 is insanely comfortable, plush, pillowy & stable...
Stinson 6
Better than walking on clouds or pillows after I replaced original insoles with max cushion, custom fit & formed insoles for each foot...
Stinson 6 is already very plush, soft, cushy, but not squishy, mushy, etc...
Fit like glove...
Fit like wet suit...
I have Bondi 6 & Just Got Stinson ATR 6...
They are good enough for someone on budget, which I'm not, to get and i feel can be used instead of Bondi's or Clifton's...
Stinson 6 is nothing like stinson 5 in fit or feel...
On gravel path you showed in video...
Speedgoat would be over kill...
Try Stinson 6, see how it fits, feel, works on paths you run...
And if you happen to have road runner sports shop around get some max custom insoles...
You can order shoes from hoka & try out for 60 days during Pandemic & get full refund if you don't like so there's no risk...
But i think you'll like it...
I try buy all black uppers & midsoles so i can wear them with other clothes...
If one is very confident & comfortable with themselves you don't have to worry about styles so much or what's current trend...
If you like something where it & you can possibly next trend setter...
There's talk about parents shoes...
There's talk about barefoot or minimalist
There's talk about maximum cushion & looking geriatric...
It's all a matter of personal preference...
Wesring shoes for style only is different than wearing for comfort & performance...
Some of fastest long distances, ultraarathons ( 26+ miles / 42+ km ) races on road or trail have been one by those wearing Hokas...
When Carbon X first came out Hoka had some of the best long distance runners from all over the world run one road race of 100km / ~62 miles in Sacramento CA, USA...
And goal was to see who could get Fastest Know Times ever recorded for following distances:
50 km / ~31 miles & 100km / ~62 miles...
Race was recorded & shared live...
Jim Walmsley set 50 mile World Record ( faster than any other human at that time ) in newly released Carbon X that were regular production shoes anyone could by...
I brought pair at i think was $200 at time and loved everything about shoe...
Super Light...
Super Great Awesome Fit...
Color, Etc...
But shoe just didn't feel right for me so i returned them...
I've got pair of Clifton Clifton Edge's and some people say they look like clown shows because of the exaggerated extension of the heel...
And they say they would never wear shoe like that in public...
But i looked at all available youtube videos & reviews at time they first came they were first released & decided to get a pair to improve downhill speed based on girl's TH-cam review named
Their recovery shoes will match your clothes better. BTW, the first pair of cargo pants is way too wide around the thigh!
Great shoes, great dude, great review ;)
Thanks mate! 🙏🏼
How do the Cliftons fit? If I wear a size 10 in most Nike's should I order a 10?
I chose the same size I wear in Nikes. Bug I obviously cant guarantee they fit you the same ✌🏽
What type of running hats are you wearing here?
Satisfy Running
What color / colorway are the Bondi's here? I can't seem to find it here in US, maybe you have a link..
Its the regular white version.. but might not be available in the US..
@@DavidMoseer I see the white, but in your video they look kind like a creamy or grey. Maybe it's your camera?
@@alexter001122 yeah yeah they are just a regular white color.. might be the light! :-)
@@DavidMoseer Do you like the white better or black for Bondi. I'm kind of unsure, i want to wear it for running and casual
@@alexter001122 I prefer the black tbh.. The white is very shiny. I just bought the white bc I already have had 2 black pairs and I running on both.. Look-wise I prefer the black, especially when you wanna wear them casually
Would you recommend these for a painter who’s on their feet all day? Trying to step away from adidas ultraboost.
I'd say definitely get a pair ...a lot of people who are on their feet all day recommend these. If you don't like them, you can return them
Where did u cop the white bondi isnt that a japan exclusive?
Directly from the Hoka One One Europe site
Great review. Thank you!
what size do you wear?
46
@@DavidMoseer I just got the
Clifton 7 at a discount, how would you say they compare with the 6 comfort wise?
Nice! I would say they are pretty identical!
It’s pretty strange how I absolutely NEVER run, but still watch your videos entirely lol.
Oh and also son, you are at 1,5K subs, how time flies right?^^
Haha thats awesome man! (Maybe you should try running 🤪)
Is that shirt you're wearing from Satisfy?
Yessir.
Hey I’ve heard you say you are pretty tall in a lot of videos, how tall are you?
191cm
Thanks for the great info!
You haven't tried Nike Zoom X
How is claudstratus
Great review
Thanks!!
May I ask where can I get the same cap? :D They look dope!
Satisfyrunning.com ✌🏼
I need 4e so I have to get Bondi 7.
old version is more expensive online
Your thumb nail is misleading. Why say a don’t buy? I love the Hokas and thought Maybe there was a defect. Booooo!
R you saying that you ran anywhere between 870 miles - 890,000 miles?th-cam.com/video/63hEg4QJwA8/w-d-xo.html
Bondi 6 doesn't have my size 🤷
Cool shirt
Why would I rock anything else causally. Then again Im function over fashion.
I bought my first pair of Bondi and almost every run my left, mostly forefoot area go numb. I don’t wear them too tight and I even loosened them even more and no luck. Any advice?
maybe should have gone for the wide versions
You don’t look like a very reliable person for shoe advice. I’ll keep buying my Hoka shoes, thx.
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Lol。。turning into a fashion channel .. funny cool
Nice accent .. French ?
Ciao David, great video! here is my Clifton 6 review th-cam.com/video/MfPqyN1rSHY/w-d-xo.html
Oh nice one!!
Just get xeroshoes lol
Hoka feels nice but looks like clowns 🤡 shoes.
what's that growing under your nose . . . a nest of flies?