This is profound. I'm not even halfway through the interview, and I appreciate his point-of-view so much. "Cops are just city employees and some of them suck." "Being loyal to the color of someone's clothes is gang mentality." Thank you, Conan and Van. These conversations can educate.
@Bryce Thibodeaux do you... understand what SYSTEMIC RACISM is? The cycle? The way you're writing I assume you're white because it reeks of white fragility and ego. If you are white in North America, UK, Australia, any colonizer country, then no you can't understand unless you did some reading and went outside your safe bubble then you can't and only then you'd understand the theory but would have never have had to live it. If you're not an ally and part of the solution fine, you do you. But don't go around talking about stuff you don't understand and most importantly, have consciously decided NOT to
This was so spot on. Van Jones was a wealth of knowledge. As a black man, Conan O'Brien has LITERALLY SHOWN how you ally; allowing a qualified Black colleague the floor and SAYING NOTHING yet pledging to support. I've been on Team Coco for over 10 years and tonight is a shining example of why he's an elite level talk show host. Not relying on dumb presidential commentary (COUGH Jimmy Kimmel COUGH), but can pull off difficult topics like this while still being funny.
This was a terrific interview, this is what journalism should be. Every headline on CNN, Fox, MSNBC, CBS you name it is just “nation divided”. Where? How can we have civil discussions like this about progress and be called divided? We are all Americans, Van Jones and Conan are having one of the many great conversations that are going on right now. Let’s get these types of videos, videos about the truth, to the top of the algorithm. Van Jones exposes a lot of the financial incentive these officers have over the commitment to their community, money is the root of all evil. Racism is just a characteristic of evil, there are evil people who want to rip us apart. Don’t let them.
Crispy Lewis74 The thing that saved the birdwatcher and the thing that has been the proverbial straw that saw the outrage over the murder of Mr. Floyd, is that they were captured on film. The killing of black men in custody, the unjust incarceration of people of colour has been going on for years, but finally now it is being exposed by people with a phone!
@@joycie014 i think it has to do with the economy and cabin fever from quarantine, especially in the big cities. We've been seeing unarmed compliant black men killed by cops on camera and this didn't happen.
That was cool of Conan, to let Van Jones have the whole show to express his feelings and emotions on this topic. Conan not just a comic, but a well rounded journalist as well.
Neil Mo In police departments with small percentages of minority officers, but once African-American cops makeup at least 25% of a department, there’s a broader cultural change that begins to happen, and violence against black men starts to go way down across the entire department. The problem with your “statistical fact” is that it’s simplistic and lacks context.
really. 2 liberals and a soft interview. and ZERO words about the at least 5 people who were killed by the leftist thugs and the hunderts of injured people.
@@bigbaba1111 MOST of the injured people are people being shot with rubber bullets from way too close and hit with gas canisters while they are PEACEFULLY protesting, just driving more justified violence by the people for the unabashed police brutality
I've watched Van Jones so much on CNN and I think he's alright but sometimes they cut him off because he's always on a panel. Listening to him here when he has free range to talk he deserves the time to express his whole thoughts. He really needs his own show. When he can get his full thoughts out you really get an even better understanding than I thought I already had.
Agreed! I kind of wish VJ could break away from CNN bc I feel he would register better with conservatives that hate all things tied to CNN. He's so reasonable that he it would help break up that blue vs red mentality.
The gang mentality is with blm and progressives, covering up actual statistics which reveal that their entire narrative and concern is a lie. Its why every martyr is someone with a record like Georges, robbing pregnant women at gunpoint, this is the best this "movement" can do for a reason.
wooo weee, wrong. Nothing justifies what happened to that man. Those crimes you speak of are from 10+ years ago. The man isn’t god, he’s a human doomed to make mistakes. I’m guessing you’ve never made any? And the stats you speak of are false interpreted. The numbers themselves are disproportionate. Why don’t you speak about that? Oh yeah, it’s because it invalidates your argument and inhibits the agenda that you’re trying to push.
A race making thugs into martyrs is a Gang Mentality too(This is why they LITERALLY Want to be able to classify BLM as a Religion) This is why you see halos over the head of Floyd and also the Gangsta Rappers. People are the lowest common denominator.
@@Edwurrd_ Go watch the TIm Timpa video, same type of death, but even more sad. Nothing Justifies you all of a sudden caring about this but didn't care when it happened to someone else. Now thats RACIST.
Respect to conan for having a real conversation and not pretending like nothing's happening like alot of white celebs. Or just reposting some hashtag thinking theyre making any difference.
Celebs are just celebs, probably a good thing to not see their loosely scavenged reposts about every subject. The ones that have something to add will.
You are a fool to think that any celebrity cares, no matter the skin color. Racism only exists in the world of poor people. If you are wealthy your skin color is irrelevant. Racism is used for a political movement now, basically use the momentum to get rid of trump. At the end of day, the poor people are being used and will pay for all the destruction. The US has a bad police academy and a lot of problems in this regard, no question about it, but at the end of the day money talks and money is being used to make people riot, but this riot will only cost the regular people and also separate the nation even more.
Kay mrs I REALLY don’t want to argue and I’m trying to be as reasonable as possible with my words but I don’t think this is all just about how many white people are being killed by the police versus black people. As this interview states, they only make up 12% of the population so I think there will obviously be more white people being killed because there are more of them in general. I think everyone has a different meaning about what this protest is about. To me it’s not about just the killings and police brutality against black people but all people of color and just anybody they can discriminate against. It isn’t right that someone who is supposed to protect citizens is going out and killing them for unjustified reasons. I don’t think anybody on either side can say that someone killing another person for a petty reason is right. And if someone can say yes to that then as a person they lack morals and humanity and should seek help. But anyways, sorry for getting off track (don’t think that last part was geared towards you, I was just rambling) I’m just not able to see how this protest is meaningless or unnecessary/unjustified.
@@marcen7067 yes also white people are not held back because of there colour and terrified of the police in case they pick on you just because you were carrying a bag of food plus all the racisist comments puked at them by racist's but a large proportion do go to Colledge by working hard scrimping and saving and become doctors lawyers and so on but a lot of American people look at a black person as sub human were the truth is they are exactly the same as us just a difference of colour and if you got to know them as i do you would find a wonder of compassion and friendship i know I am English and live in the UK racism does not stop at the boarders of America we have it here to not as bad as you guys but its all over the world and it needs to stop it bloody 2020 for cripes sake its time for us humans to start to get along grow up and grow some .
my friend got 15 years in chino because he had 1 joint and a pocket knife. this was back in 97. His daughter was a full-blown teenager when he first hugged her. this is why we say there are injustices in the world.
Van Jones: "There is a way out of this. A lot of people feel total despair. I don't think that that's where we should stay. I don't think we should deny the pain, but we shouldn't let pain have the last word." A lot of deep, real insights, and most of all, hope for the opportunities to take a different path. Thank you, Conan & Van, for having this conversation and inviting all of us to listen and learn.
Read into that a little. He thinks ALL white people are guilty and pain shouldn't have the last word. This POS sounds like he's being paid to incite a race war.
Conan is Dad right now - i feel like he has the historical chops to digest and interpret current events, and the wisdom to call on experts when he doesn't. He's straight up excellent (albeit accidental) journalist sometimes!
This was such a powerful and meaningful conversation. I will be sharing this with my wife and friends. We really need to be kinder and know each other more. So many salient topics brought up in a measured and genuine way. I'll be using these topics and insights to further reflect on how I can continue to improve and be a better person.
I'm white, my closest friend is black. I have a disability, driving is very very hard for me. I just shouldn't do it. I was a lone and needed my friend to use my car to get me stuff during this pandemic. My friend has been terrified to use my car with or without me in it. He got pulled over and the cops called me all hostile and didn't believe me at 1st when i said I'm sick at home and my friend needed the car. Its 2020, and i can't even give my car to my black friend something i never thought of until recently. I'm mortified by this death and i fear it could be my buddy one day. Guilty of only being black . . . . . . . . .
It's so sad to hear your terrifying anecdote. But it has come to the point where every black person needs to befriend a white person to feel safe. While it is fantastic when communities integrate, this isn't a healthy social conduct. Friendship shouldn't be conditional. It should develop naturally and should always be on a human level not relating to race, religion, caste or culture. It also severely weakens the friendship when the relationship becomes patronising from one end. Hope things change with this incident and your friendship remains healthy forever👍🏻
I wasn’t aware that he said that. And assuming he actually said what you claimed, I still found him very even tempered and reasonable in this segment. I stand by my original comment.
@You know where I like it... Maybe what you said is true, maybe it isn't, I don't know. However, if your goal is to convince people who hold different views than you of something, the aggressive, holier-than-thou tone in your comments isn't going to fly. You criticize their worldview. What is your worldview?
Funny, there are a lot of well spoken...articulate people out there but if it's a black guy people feel the need to say he's "articulate." Why wouldn't he be articulate?
@@njpete987 If you read internet comments, you would realise very few people are as artiulate, even in interview's with white people. Also, a compliment of being well articualted, is one of the best compliments to get!
Very weirdly I was waiting for Conan to speak up about this...under all that goofiness there is a compassionate, intelligent and a solicitous person!! It turned out to be all true....this was a beautiful conversation to have at this time.
I was hoping for something meaningful from Conan too, and he did not disappoint. Sad that we can rely more consistently on a talk show host to weigh his words more carefully and show more backbone and compassion than our elected officials/public servants.
I watched the video, very painful is an understatement. But it’s a must see so that we can all understand and fight for human rights. I don’t care who you are or what color of skin you are, people need to be treated with respect! We are a great country because of our diversity but we need to take care of each other. Those that don’t step up are also part of the problem. Brown, dark, white skin; we are all beautiful! Let’s respect each other & make a difference now!!!
yeah, cause we've certainly never seen them trot out van jones as the new jesse jackson every.single.time. smh. it's a sideshow. you can't see this? crumbs for peasants. control of narrative. hegelian dialectic yo.
If the government starts to address the concerns of the protestors, the looting should naturally go away when protests cease. They need to start proposing solutions instead of sending out more police and military which will just escalate the situation further.
Hope back atcha!! We have to get more educated to the culture and atrocities black people still face, and get together and have real conversations about how we help, or work together in order to help us all go forward in America, and have equal opportunities for each and every American, regardless of skin pigmentation!!! We cannot stand by and watch decent hard working people get murdered in cold blood, in broad daylight!!! Take care! Be safe and blessings to you and everyone out there suffering under this oppression and hate. We are seeing it, finally. George Floyd (may he RIP) will rest easy knowing that he was the object of change and for uniting the American people!! 😉❤❤
@@AndySalinger33 One can see by merely reading these comments that is not true. He is speaking the truth and educating and informing the American people, so that we are fully aware of what has been here all along, and it's no longer just coming for minorities and people of color, but they are coming for the majority of Americans black, white, yellow, brown! We can neither stand by and allow this to happen anymore, and we have to change, make many more positive changes not only for ourselves, but our children and grandchildren, so that they have a safe, free, equal, solid future, and save our planet!! This kind of ignorant hateful, senseless terrorism should not exist in a free society!!!
Yeah just like the rest of Hollywood. They all "care" for everyone, more specifically, the blacks. Except for business owners who are being looted and and beaten by these "protesters".
Alexandra Dian thanks for referring to the black community as “the blacks”. good to know that you as a white person dont support equality and that you value property/merchandise over lives.
@@hisureiss6618 people have done peacefully protest for years and years and nothing have changed, police still treats black people in the same way they treated in the 60s, they are tired, with anger Changes need to be made by any means necessary
Wow, this did not disappoint. I think this is the single greatest and most informative thing I've seen all week. Thanks Conan and Van. Van Jones you have a new big fan.
@Respect/Walk I know man, I've been trying to work out, but it's tough with the quarantine and 2 young children. Thanks for the bit of motivation though, respect.
Music Is A Rainbow @Chill Out: Mohamed Noor, the black officer who killed Justine was an idiot. He was wrong. There was no hesitation in his being arrested and put in prison, where he OBVIOUSLY belongs. Had there been no cameras and so many witnesses to George Floyd’s murder, the 4 clowns who killed him would still be walking free. The DA moved very slowly in arresting the other 3 ex cops. Treat ALL police murders the same, regardless of race is the point here, which I’m sure you probably see.
powerful: "If you just say because someone has on a blue uniform, you gotta back them no matter what, that's gang mentality. That's not constitutional democracy, that's gang mentality...essentially you have a number of gangs in a community, just one of them has on a badge."
strandvaskeren I remember giving my godson that lesson when he was about 8, and being scared because he didn’t immediately grasp it since all his police “interactions” came via kiddie tv shows.
As a person outside the USA it very mindboggling like do black people literally sit there kids down and talk about police officers, as if there talking about marriage and stuff ?
I'm Asian, I'm from Oakland and even we get those talks growing up. Nowadays they give those talks in schools. Elementary schools. Why so young? Because when you are a person of color, they shoot to kill, no matter age. Look up "8 year old pepper sprayed by police". Get ready to cry.
We always knew underneath the floppy red hair and goofy persona was a smart, thoughtful and empathetic person. Well done Conan. Van Jones has an important voice and message that should be heard. Justice for Floyd.
This was an amazing interview. I’ve been so against 99% of what Van Jones says when he’s on CNN but that’s not him. This is the real man. I hope he keeps going with this level of honesty and sincerity. He’s got me fired up for the future. Complete turnaround of my opinion.
I’m sorry to say I haven’t been part of the solution for too long because I didn’t think I was part of the problem. I’m listening. Thank you for this perspective 👏
Unless you have been actively racist then there is absolutely no reason why you have been part of the problem. So if you are racist, perhaps best not to be; if you are not racist but happen to be white then why on earth should you feel guilt about something like this. Guilt by association is one of the most disgusting concepts imaginable; harking back to Catholic original sin. Think long and hard about your sense of responsibility as an individual before you allow someone to make you feel guilty as being part of a category.
@leo daly I don’t think people who don’t feel guilt should be demonized but if you don’t feel bad for watching your fellow man be killed and oppressed while doing nothing I think that is heartless
@@matthewsiefert2432 Matthew, there is a big difference between feeling empathy for your fellow man and feeling guilt for your fellow man, do you not agree?
leo daly I quite emphatically disagree. One does not need to be the perpetrator to share blame. If I pass someone on the street who is injured and asking for help I am certainly not guilty of inflicting the injury, but if I choose to do nothing than I am partially responsible for that person’s fate. I don’t feel a useless sense of guilt. I felt it, acknowledged it, and have now moved on to trying to do something about it. Firstly to gain new perspectives like what’s being shared here.
@Leo you are soooooooo......ugly and pitiful kind of human!!! Of course you are guilty if you have never stood up or said nothing for the hundreds murdered, thousands incarcerated wrongly, millions of people brought to this country against their will and still being treated as second/third class citizens, after literally whose body's created the wealth this country you enjoy you pitful creature. You and who ever agrees with you are RACIST, lost and soulless devils. Good luck on judgment day with your sad commentary. I don't want your help or sympathy personally, because my faith teaches the Elohim of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob will have the last word. Woe to those that call evil good or good evil.
Conan is being the perfect ally - saying little; asking few, but the correct, questions. Van Jones earned his JD at Yale, has founded several non-profit organizations regarding racial and environmental issues, and worked in the Obama administration. He is a man to listen to regarding multiple items - including this current crisis.
It's so hard to be black in America they don't have billionaires, millionaires, politicians, bankers, lawyers, doctors, professors etc. Hang on a minute.... Societies always have structural inequality, poor white or poor black doesn't matter...
The police in my area were on a “show them who’s in charge” power-trip, I guess because of what happened in Minneapolis. A few days ago, I was illegally stopped by two cop cars for “dark tint”. (Mind you, the car came with 20% tint on it and I’ve had it for two years with no problem). My car was illegally searched because the cop “smelled marijuana” (never smoked a day in my life and I ride alone). The officers unlocked and went through my locked glovebox and locked trunk without consent, tossed my car, ran my license to find nothing. They handed me my license back, jumped in their cars and took off. I couldn’t get their names or badge numbers and they didn’t issue me a traceable ticket for anything, INCLUDING THE “DARK TINT” they stopped me for. They probably never even called the stop in. They just tossed my car and left. All they had to do was pull something from a pocket and slip it under my seat, and there went my freedom. I didn’t break any laws. I have no warrants or drugs. I had a valid license, tag, and insurance. My tint was a fix-it ticket AT THE MOST. And police in my state aren’t allowed to stop you solely for tint regardless. The reason this happened was not primarily because I’m black (one of the officers was also black), but because they knew they wouldn’t get into trouble for it. This is where oversight and accountability come into play. No excuse for those handfuls of rioters, but plenty excuse for reform. That’s what this is about. This man said everything right. Respect to him and Conan for addressing it.
80%AshamedOfYou OMG that is ridiculously scary and so unnecessary!! I’m so sorry you had to endure that. :( That kind of behaviour from the police has to stop immediately. We are on your side.
Imagine if they started arresting McDonalds employees when they burned a hamburger (cops are hired with the same qualifications as fast food employees). Employees would find ways to cover the camera or not write their names on the wrapper. If too many employees got arrested, nobody would be willing to work at McDonalds, except the worst workers (problem with cops).
I hope your message gets out more. It's about checking police power and accountability. You know the same thing thst happened to you just happened to a friend of mine while back. Hes white, pulled over by cops, they said the same thing to him. searched his car, which was packed with his belongings cause he was moving. They had to dig things out into the street to search his whole car. They found nothing and left. I lived in the adjacent unit next to his mom. A month later they broke into her place cause they said there was an emergency call coming from that residence. BS.. they were in Argentina on vacation.. saw 8 cops break in and search the place. Who knows if they stole something. I think the media really likes to play up racial victim hood. It's terrible. The phycological effect of it is insane. Where can you go, what can you do if you believe your life is the way it is because the country is discriminating against you for your skin color? You can do nothing but fight and become bitter or just give up at that point. At least that's how I'd feel...I grew up poor in the city and also in some rural parts of towns. Move around a lot growing up. Been called all kinds of racist names just for having light skin or for being mixed race. Luckily I surrounded my self with good people and good friends from all backgrounds. It became clear to me that the media poisons people at an early age. That and seeing that there are some organizations out their that use race to bait and rile people up to gain power. Some people are hurting so bad that they just get tricked into thinking their problems are about race and that anyone not the same color is an enemy... We are the content of our character not our skin color. But when you are hurting it's easy to revert to blaming others even if it doesn't make sense. The sad thing is sometimes they are right. Sometimes its racism that's causing a problem. But I have to believe it's an outlier. Otherwise the terrorists win...
The weird part is that this conversation is truly meaningful for the society we live here in INDIA... This is the larger truth for most of the disputes of our society!!
Hey! I am an indian teenager and i was wondering how i could look into these disputes in my country through this conversational medium of listening and exchanging. I have failed , before the corona, to understand and know. You see i live in my privilege and this shell and i believe i never understood the standings and hardships before 2020. I saw the recent heartbreaking protests and the migrant crisis and it broke me apart. What i am asking from you is do you have any articles , videos or anything you would like to recommend. I believe your older than me and i wish if you could share your experience. Here is one i would like to recommend you if you have time: Muzzafarnagar baaqi hai (a 2015 documentary on riots and cleansing in muzzafarnagar. It is available on Netflix and also on TH-cam if i remember) Stay safe.
i've become addicted to conan's humor under covid19 and now i see him as a serious interviewer striking the exact right chord. fandom now fully baked. conans just awesome. horrific time handled well. xo
zan zy They’re not fanning out on Conan. They’re applauding his commentary and handling of a tough and sensitive subject matter, given how he’s always known for comedy.
@Chauncey watch some of his graduation speeches like the Dartmouth one! He loves being silly and comedic above all else but he's a very smart and eloquent man, offers so much more than just entertainment.
@zan zy you're right how could one shift the focus from the black equality argument to a well intentioned talk show host who still benefits indirectly from white supremacy
🤟🏻🤟🏽🤟🏿This is some of THE most insightful and inspiring information about dealing with the racism plaguing our country that I have come across! Thanks Van Jones. I agree, “we need to come together” One love🤟🏻🤟🏽🤟🏿
Here here. Conan's priorities and ability to bring honesty and humility to socio-political subjects rather than pandering to the obvious and popular opinions makes him so smart and inspirational.
As an attorney myself, I am so happy to hear you call out the prosecutorial community regarding the disproportions in charging. The charges that were filed were a reaction to social pressure, rather than a true reflection on how everyday citizens, especially minorities, are charged and prosecuted. Thank you.
Kneeling and chocking a black man for 7 minutes is definitely not a 3rd degree murder or as he stated an “oopsie murder”. How was that even thought of as a mistake?
Should have been 2nd degree murder. But hey, 3rd degree murder can carry a 25 yr sentence and manslaughter can be up to 8 yrs so 33 yrs max. Right now, we can only hope he gets max prison time.... unless charges change.
Someone in the comments was explaing that in Minnesota third degree murder is the same as second degree murder everywehere else. Second degree in Minnesota is for things like drivebys & 'oops' stuff that Van described. First degree requires proof of premeditation. If they tried to go for first degree & he was acquitted - they wouldn't be able to charge him again for the same crime. So maybe third degree murder is the charge that will get the best outcome in terms of seeing that he is made accountable. The O.P. mentioned that he learnt about it on the "Opening Arguments" podcast after being outraged at the charge & trying to work out was was going on with it.
Totally agree on Van Jones’s comments about coming together and reforming the system. It’s so sad that it’s always tragedies that push forward history.
Be vigilant when you say reform, bc historically reform has been used to institute small unhelpful changes that don’t help at all. We need an entire new system instead of bandaids on a sinking ship.
As a mix race it becomes easier to see things from other perspectives, and I honestly wish that more white people could see how by saying you "don't see color" or "all lives matter" you are not seeing the injustices that people of color have had to deal with for so long and how saying those things can be a racist thing to say. Racism is real, and just like an addiction, the first step to recovery is admitting your wrongdoings. I am lighter skinned than a lot of my relatives and have witnessed first hand how people would treat me one way and treat my relatives another way. It has truly broken my heart just like the moment I saw the video of George. George Floyd, may you always be remembered and never forgotten. Black Lives Matter.
I do believe that is hard for multi-racial kids. You belong everywhere (and harder, nowhere) I am "Full" Dine' and my youngest 2 are mixed. I have worked long and hard to make them strong. Them, being half Navajo makes it easier to take on the world. White privilege? That is another whole story in the Southwest.
@ANTOINE RAFAEL R. MAXIMO Wow! For you to ask that question shows how tone deaf you are. Black people have never said that *only* Black Lives Matters but that BLM *too* !
Conan continues to show his thoughtfulness and sensitivity and relevance for having this unbelievably articulate man on his show. Such a shame we're having these conversations well into the 21st century, but god bless men like Jones and O'Brien for choosing to talk the difficult talk on a public forum.
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Robert Marchese “unbelievably articulate” ? Typical bigotry of low expectations
This is the Northern Fox Van Jones was mentioning. Someone that smiles and agrees while still holding that prejudice in the background and not confronting it.
I have now listened to this interview beginning to end three times. It's that compelling. Mr. Jones is right, people should read that book, *The New Jim Crow*, by Michelle Alexander.
There's a youtube series called "Serious Jibber Jabber" where it's Conan sitting with certain guests and doing serious talk. I think it ended since there hasn't been any new updates in a long time, but it's a good watch.
The man graduated from Harvard and wrote for SNL and the Simpsons, just because he acts goofy on his show doesn't mean that's how he always is. Many people are multi-faceted.
That hit me pretty hard. Through my life I have always thought to myself if I do the right thing with an officer I’ll be alright. But what he said in the beginning. About not having something to tell his kids to make sure they are safe with a cop, puts me on the verge of tears.
He has his own show lol look him up.. He has his upsides to the way he looks at things, but at the end of the day he's a CNN shill. Especially because CNN pays his salary.
I'm on the other side of the atlantic but honestly this sad and horrid to witness, I believe in american people to have in their heart to change the status quo because it really is disheartening and hope change comes sooner rather than later
Nothing will change by itself. It hasn`t for too long to just happen right now. People have to act on it. And the terrible truth is, more people will die before change arrives. And I honestly can`t see an end to all of this. If people go back to their everyday lifes now, nothing will change in the long run.
ron comey watching this nightmare from Canada - I just don’t understand them. So much money and power and global influence and yet their issues with race and white privileged have not changed since the days of slavery. I hope they can find a peaceful way to find their way forward
Thanks Conan for taking the time to address this topic and posting it. Love it. at 22-24min mark "Can't we all just sit down, everyone, both sides of the isle, NAACP, etc and discuss this openly. Pray but just come together"
It's so great when people have space to speak. I was gripped, felt like 5 mins, and it was an insightful 30! Thank you Van Jones, thank you Conan and Team Coco! Looking forward to a better world, hate that it was George's sacrifice
If I could give this a million thumbs up I would. Which begs the question, how have there been almost 1000 people who have given this a thumbs down!??? Thank you Van Jones for speaking so truthfully and eloquently about this crisis! Thank you Conan for your efforts to be part of the solution and for fostering helpful dialogue.
I have adored Mr. O'Brien for 16 years now. The adoration only grows with every bit of his neutral and recent tacklings of Trump-era issues. Love this guy. He chose a great speaker too (Van Jones).
Mr. Van Jones is right on every account! Especially the part about people worldwide of all races & walks of life, who are appauled and shocked to the core! I pray everyday for a better world. Tell us what we can do to help, please 🙏 Cheers from Switzerland
And legally allowed to carry guns, batons, pepper spray, rubber bullets, stun guns and a huge amount of bullets and even ram tanks into houses as well as being allowed to lie to suspects during interrogations.
@@bender_8282 Actually, lots of gangs sometimes use their power to protect law abiding citizens who contribute to society. That doesn't mean gangs do mostly good overall, or that the bad they do shouldn't be stopped. Or are you trying to say the police have never supported a corrupt person, or protected a criminal for any reason? Seems like you're childishly naive.
Conan I have just realized has to be one of the most compassionate and genuine human beings I have seen period. Just the little subtle things he does that are so human, which puts far ahead of other whites in terms of understanding. Number 1, he is the one who is allowing a black person to speak on behalf of his tid bit because he realizes the times. And GOD's clock is saying it is time for white people PROPORTIONALLY to shut up and listen and learn. Obviously whites are a majority you can't even say the white majority is racist. This country is too damn big and wouldn't be honest. But proportionally 1/3 of whites have to shut up and learn. Conan who is an extreme success admits he didn't understand third degree murder and asked a black person to EDUCATE him on it. That word of education is now and always has be a common factor when it comes to people who care and people who don't.
This happens in Auatralis too it is just not published nearly as much! As well as supporting black people in American we must support the black communities here too!! Please speak up for indigenous and other black people in Australia too!!
C D Speaking of Australia, I was reminded of the death Justine Damond, another incident that gets my blood boiling. Google her if you don’t know. The police in the us man, smh.
I admire Van’s directness and sensitivity. He covered a lot of important ground here. Van, thank you. Conan, it was great to see you, but thank you for giving Van the floor.
14:00 As a Singaporean Chinese, where my city state is famous for its racial harmony, I can tell you quite frankly, if you want your society to be educated about racism, you have to pay the price of education. The Singapore government made sure that we are brought up from early schooling to have respect for everyone regardless of race and religion. It's even written in our national pledge. Everyone has to play their part, both as individuals, and as a community.
isn't it true that minorities Singaporean have difficulties to rent houses ? Company meetings conducted in a language that is not understood by minorities ? no country is perfect ,nobody is perfect. Its no point that the government FORCE people to integrate /respect each other. Respect and love comes from your own heart
singapore is a notoriously conservative society that enforces a certain social/racial/economic class as the norm. Respect for eveyrone? Don't make me laugh.
The fact that a video as pure and honest as this still has nearly 10% people giving it a thumbs down, shows that there is a lot of work to be done on racial equality.
The challenge is there for the 90% to do more. A portion of the 10% (the weak/undecided) will follow. The diehard portion of racists will be exposed/marginalised. Our planet requires that we work together. We have no where else to live....
More people need to hear this. Your lives matter! I appreciate Conan’s professional interview and Van Jones is excellent at articulating more about this sadness to those of us who will never know true oppression. May this man’s death not be in vain. Praying for peace, understanding, justice and love.
@@vladivanov5500 How fitting with a Putin profile pic. Now it's confusing that the "all lives matter" is seen as being opposite that of "black lives matter" but black lives matter doesn't say other lives don't matter it's focus is on the actual disparity on the rates of death of black males at the hands of police. It's called systemic racism. (Also, missed the part where an officer put his full weight on his knee on Tony's neck...but that shouldn't matter either)
Tony Timpa’s death should have never been in vain either. He died the same way as George but because he was white so he couldn’t get the same justice. May their spirit live on ❤️
Well I wrote this because I’m trying to educate myself. And I appreciate this discussion because I WANT to at least try to understand what I know I don’t know and never will. I wanted to show appreciation for this interaction.
"I CANT BREATH" let me cry alone let me generously weeping my only son let my tears rain pour my tears down my soul seared on my most beloved my skin betrayed me my beloved only son
This interview shows exactly why Conan is such a treasure. He is a comedic genius and professional interviewer.
When you've done something for 27 years, you pick up a few things.
This interview shows exactly why Van Jones is such a treasure.
Exactly
Totally agree. He should be getting more views than the other late night guys. Conan makes Fallon look like a (bad) joke.
The important thing Conan has done here is this was a conversation rather than an interview.
This is profound. I'm not even halfway through the interview, and I appreciate his point-of-view so much. "Cops are just city employees and some of them suck." "Being loyal to the color of someone's clothes is gang mentality." Thank you, Conan and Van. These conversations can educate.
Wow!
That's a great point. It applies to soldiers as well.
@Bryce Thibodeaux do you... understand what SYSTEMIC RACISM is? The cycle? The way you're writing I assume you're white because it reeks of white fragility and ego. If you are white in North America, UK, Australia, any colonizer country, then no you can't understand unless you did some reading and went outside your safe bubble then you can't and only then you'd understand the theory but would have never have had to live it. If you're not an ally and part of the solution fine, you do you. But don't go around talking about stuff you don't understand and most importantly, have consciously decided NOT to
Yes from 10:54 to 12:09 ✊
@Bra'tac Did someone blame all cops? I think that is your own interpretation!
One of the best discussion about the state of the Black people, the police, and structural inequality. Thank you Conan and Van.
@Liberty AboveAllElse liberty includes the right to live wouldn't you say.
This was so spot on. Van Jones was a wealth of knowledge.
As a black man, Conan O'Brien has LITERALLY SHOWN how you ally; allowing a qualified Black colleague the floor and SAYING NOTHING yet pledging to support.
I've been on Team Coco for over 10 years and tonight is a shining example of why he's an elite level talk show host. Not relying on dumb presidential commentary (COUGH Jimmy Kimmel COUGH), but can pull off difficult topics like this while still being funny.
@Sudhir Kakar Conan's following. Made famous when he switched over from NBC
the Cough Jimmy Kimmel part was good XD
why do you require unthinking "allies"? If your message is sound, it will stand up to questioning
@@chrisc7265 we're not unthinking. But there's a time and a place for everything, and right now, it's theirs.
@@BlankRami No it wasn't. It was, COUGH hackneyed COUGH. We need our comics just like we need our deep interviews. We need them all.
This was a terrific interview, this is what journalism should be. Every headline on CNN, Fox, MSNBC, CBS you name it is just “nation divided”. Where? How can we have civil discussions like this about progress and be called divided? We are all Americans, Van Jones and Conan are having one of the many great conversations that are going on right now. Let’s get these types of videos, videos about the truth, to the top of the algorithm. Van Jones exposes a lot of the financial incentive these officers have over the commitment to their community, money is the root of all evil. Racism is just a characteristic of evil, there are evil people who want to rip us apart. Don’t let them.
Well said
Crispy Lewis74 The thing that saved the birdwatcher and the thing that has been the proverbial straw that saw the outrage over the murder of Mr. Floyd, is that they were captured on film. The killing of black men in custody, the unjust incarceration of people of colour has been going on for years, but finally now it is being exposed by people with a phone!
Agree. Just don't read the comments, smh.
stevnated that's probably a good idea!
@@joycie014 i think it has to do with the economy and cabin fever from quarantine, especially in the big cities. We've been seeing unarmed compliant black men killed by cops on camera and this didn't happen.
Conan is the only one of talk shows who I believe is the most genuine and why I've been watching him for the last 18 years.
That was cool of Conan, to let Van Jones have the whole show to express his feelings and emotions on this topic. Conan not just a comic, but a well rounded journalist as well.
Make all cops blacks problem solved
Neil Mo In police departments with small percentages of minority officers, but once African-American cops makeup at least 25% of a department, there’s a broader cultural change that begins to happen, and violence against black men starts to go way down across the entire department. The problem with your “statistical fact” is that it’s simplistic and lacks context.
really. 2 liberals and a soft interview. and ZERO words about the at least 5 people who were killed by the leftist thugs and the hunderts of injured people.
@@bigbaba1111 MOST of the injured people are people being shot with rubber bullets from way too close and hit with gas canisters while they are PEACEFULLY protesting, just driving more justified violence by the people for the unabashed police brutality
Sure, man. Let the people who have knowledge to speak. It’s time to let the whites to stop narrating things.
I've watched Van Jones so much on CNN and I think he's alright but sometimes they cut him off because he's always on a panel. Listening to him here when he has free range to talk he deserves the time to express his whole thoughts. He really needs his own show. When he can get his full thoughts out you really get an even better understanding than I thought I already had.
He does the Race Hustle.
Agreed! I kind of wish VJ could break away from CNN bc I feel he would register better with conservatives that hate all things tied to CNN. He's so reasonable that he it would help break up that blue vs red mentality.
Didn’t he have his own show on CNN? I’m pretty sure I’ve seen his show on a Saturday night or was it Sunday?
I agree completely!
Agreed
He said "police covering up for each other is gang mentality" good point.
The gang mentality is with blm and progressives, covering up actual statistics which reveal that their entire narrative and concern is a lie. Its why every martyr is someone with a record like Georges, robbing pregnant women at gunpoint, this is the best this "movement" can do for a reason.
wooo weee, wrong. Nothing justifies what happened to that man. Those crimes you speak of are from 10+ years ago. The man isn’t god, he’s a human doomed to make mistakes. I’m guessing you’ve never made any? And the stats you speak of are false interpreted. The numbers themselves are disproportionate. Why don’t you speak about that? Oh yeah, it’s because it invalidates your argument and inhibits the agenda that you’re trying to push.
@Ralph McBride
I couldn't have said it any better. You are spot on with everything in your comment.
A race making thugs into martyrs is a Gang Mentality too(This is why they LITERALLY Want to be able to classify BLM as a Religion) This is why you see halos over the head of Floyd and also the Gangsta Rappers.
People are the lowest common denominator.
@@Edwurrd_ Go watch the TIm Timpa video, same type of death, but even more sad. Nothing Justifies you all of a sudden caring about this but didn't care when it happened to someone else. Now thats RACIST.
Respect to conan for having a real conversation and not pretending like nothing's happening like alot of white celebs. Or just reposting some hashtag thinking theyre making any difference.
Or donating to ANTIFA to muddy up the whole situation and distract from the real problem.
dosage13 we get more insight and wisdom from late night hosts than from news media and politicians
Celebs are just celebs, probably a good thing to not see their loosely scavenged reposts about every subject. The ones that have something to add will.
MAGNUM DONG
Antifa? You"re funnier than Conan ever could be...........
You are a fool to think that any celebrity cares, no matter the skin color. Racism only exists in the world of poor people. If you are wealthy your skin color is irrelevant.
Racism is used for a political movement now, basically use the momentum to get rid of trump.
At the end of day, the poor people are being used and will pay for all the destruction.
The US has a bad police academy and a lot of problems in this regard, no question about it, but at the end of the day money talks and money is being used to make people riot, but this riot will only cost the regular people and also separate the nation even more.
I needed this sensible conversation today. This is an opportunity.
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Kay mrs I REALLY don’t want to argue and I’m trying to be as reasonable as possible with my words but I don’t think this is all just about how many white people are being killed by the police versus black people. As this interview states, they only make up 12% of the population so I think there will obviously be more white people being killed because there are more of them in general. I think everyone has a different meaning about what this protest is about. To me it’s not about just the killings and police brutality against black people but all people of color and just anybody they can discriminate against. It isn’t right that someone who is supposed to protect citizens is going out and killing them for unjustified reasons. I don’t think anybody on either side can say that someone killing another person for a petty reason is right. And if someone can say yes to that then as a person they lack morals and humanity and should seek help. But anyways, sorry for getting off track (don’t think that last part was geared towards you, I was just rambling) I’m just not able to see how this protest is meaningless or unnecessary/unjustified.
@@marcen7067 yes also white people are not held back because of there colour and terrified of the police in case they pick on you just because you were carrying a bag of food plus all the racisist comments puked at them by racist's but a large proportion do go to Colledge by working hard scrimping and saving and become doctors lawyers and so on but a lot of American people look at a black person as sub human were the truth is they are exactly the same as us just a difference of colour and if you got to know them as i do you would find a wonder of compassion and friendship i know I am English and live in the UK racism does not stop at the boarders of America we have it here to not as bad as you guys but its all over the world and it needs to stop it bloody 2020 for cripes sake its time for us humans to start to get along grow up and grow some .
I'm British and love conan. Watching this to learn more about this awful situation. 11 minutes in and this guy is tremendous.
when conan comes out all serious, not even a tiny little joke, wow.
There’s nothing to joke about here. This is the real deal.
huh? '' a tiny little joke''?? wtf?!
If he wasn't a cop, he would have been arrested immediately!
Aleksandar Lukic I don't think the situation lends itself to cracking jokes!
I agree with Vance Jones, cops like Chauvin and his cronies are gang members with a badge!
my friend got 15 years in chino because he had 1 joint and a pocket knife. this was back in 97. His daughter was a full-blown teenager when he first hugged her. this is why we say there are injustices in the world.
Gilbert Jacobs And how many offenses did he have before that?
@@DegreesOfThree none.
@W B is if they were hispanic is ok but if they were Caucasian they were racists?
That sucks since weed is legal in some states now
@@gilbertjacobs3705 that this dude's screen name is barely listening is just too much irony for real life. smh
Van Jones: "There is a way out of this. A lot of people feel total despair. I don't think that that's where we should stay. I don't think we should deny the pain, but we shouldn't let pain have the last word."
A lot of deep, real insights, and most of all, hope for the opportunities to take a different path.
Thank you, Conan & Van, for having this conversation and inviting all of us to listen and learn.
Read into that a little. He thinks ALL white people are guilty and pain shouldn't have the last word. This POS sounds like he's being paid to incite a race war.
Surprisingly gives me a sense of comfort when conan talks about a difficult situation.
How dare you
he's a humble man...always is... Honestly he did a pretty good job on this occasion. Van Jones is a good guest.
yeah. shouldn't something similar be expected of the president of the nation as well?
Conan is Dad right now - i feel like he has the historical chops to digest and interpret current events, and the wisdom to call on experts when he doesn't. He's straight up excellent (albeit accidental) journalist sometimes!
I feel it's because Conan usually makes light of things that seeing him serious has a strong impact.
This was such a powerful and meaningful conversation. I will be sharing this with my wife and friends. We really need to be kinder and know each other more. So many salient topics brought up in a measured and genuine way. I'll be using these topics and insights to further reflect on how I can continue to improve and be a better person.
Van Jones is really speaking from the heart here, the man is just too tired and worn out to play politics, he just wants a better world for everyone.
Great guest. Voice of reason and clarity
More people need to see this. Conan, hats off🙌🏻
"Out of a breakdown, you can have a breakthrough."
But when been waiting and waiting
Brilliant
I'm white, my closest friend is black. I have a disability, driving is very very hard for me. I just shouldn't do it. I was a lone and needed my friend to use my car to get me stuff during this pandemic. My friend has been terrified to use my car with or without me in it. He got pulled over and the cops called me all hostile and didn't believe me at 1st when i said I'm sick at home and my friend needed the car. Its 2020, and i can't even give my car to my black friend something i never thought of until recently. I'm mortified by this death and i fear it could be my buddy one day. Guilty of only being black . . . . . . . . .
My god what kind of country is this? 1939 nazi Germany??
It's so sad to hear your terrifying anecdote. But it has come to the point where every black person needs to befriend a white person to feel safe. While it is fantastic when communities integrate, this isn't a healthy social conduct.
Friendship shouldn't be conditional. It should develop naturally and should always be on a human level not relating to race, religion, caste or culture. It also severely weakens the friendship when the relationship becomes patronising from one end.
Hope things change with this incident and your friendship remains healthy forever👍🏻
@@Watcher4111 it's 2020 america
I feel bad for liking this comment... it's spot on what is wrong in this country.
On the other side strangely many whites feel guilty for just being white.
Even though I’m conservative and ain’t a big fan of CNN, I loved Van Jones in this segment.
@You know where I like it... oh no not the whites
I wasn’t aware that he said that. And assuming he actually said what you claimed, I still found him very even tempered and reasonable in this segment. I stand by my original comment.
@You know where I like it... oh the virus is commenting on youtube
@You know where I like it... This is you trying to shatter our worldviews? Yikes. You might want to aim a little lower.
@You know where I like it... Maybe what you said is true, maybe it isn't, I don't know. However, if your goal is to convince people who hold different views than you of something, the aggressive, holier-than-thou tone in your comments isn't going to fly. You criticize their worldview. What is your worldview?
Van Jones is so articulate, poised, balanced.
He’s great 👍
Van's poise is Olympic.
No, he just hates white people
Funny, there are a lot of well spoken...articulate people out there but if it's a black guy people feel the need to say he's "articulate." Why wouldn't he be articulate?
@@njpete987 If you read internet comments, you would realise very few people are as artiulate, even in interview's with white people. Also, a compliment of being well articualted, is one of the best compliments to get!
Very weirdly I was waiting for Conan to speak up about this...under all that goofiness there is a compassionate, intelligent and a solicitous person!! It turned out to be all true....this was a beautiful conversation to have at this time.
and this is why we love him, right? #teamcoco
Conan is an intelligent man even though his silliness i thought it was obvious
Absolutely, me too.
He’s spoke up about many things. Mass shootings, gun control, Trump calling places shitholes etc . He’s a stand up guy .
I was hoping for something meaningful from Conan too, and he did not disappoint. Sad that we can rely more consistently on a talk show host to weigh his words more carefully and show more backbone and compassion than our elected officials/public servants.
People definitely needs to see this. People from every community. Hope ✊
I watched the video, very painful is an understatement. But it’s a must see so that we can all understand and fight for human rights. I don’t care who you are or what color of skin you are, people need to be treated with respect! We are a great country because of our diversity but we need to take care of each other. Those that don’t step up are also part of the problem. Brown, dark, white skin; we are all beautiful! Let’s respect each other & make a difference now!!!
yeah, cause we've certainly never seen them trot out van jones as the new jesse jackson every.single.time. smh. it's a sideshow. you can't see this? crumbs for peasants. control of narrative. hegelian dialectic yo.
If the government starts to address the concerns of the protestors, the looting should naturally go away when protests cease. They need to start proposing solutions instead of sending out more police and military which will just escalate the situation further.
Hope back atcha!! We have to get more educated to the culture and atrocities black people still face, and get together and have real conversations about how we help, or work together in order to help us all go forward in America, and have equal opportunities for each and every American, regardless of skin pigmentation!!! We cannot stand by and watch decent hard working people get murdered in cold blood, in broad daylight!!! Take care! Be safe and blessings to you and everyone out there suffering under this oppression and hate. We are seeing it, finally. George Floyd (may he RIP) will rest easy knowing that he was the object of change and for uniting the American people!! 😉❤❤
@@AndySalinger33 One can see by merely reading these comments that is not true. He is speaking the truth and educating and informing the American people, so that we are fully aware of what has been here all along, and it's no longer just coming for minorities and people of color, but they are coming for the majority of Americans black, white, yellow, brown! We can neither stand by and allow this to happen anymore, and we have to change, make many more positive changes not only for ourselves, but our children and grandchildren, so that they have a safe, free, equal, solid future, and save our planet!! This kind of ignorant hateful, senseless terrorism should not exist in a free society!!!
"We shouldn't let pain have the last word." -Van Jones.
But yet they do. Lets burn down local stores.
It's good to know that Conan cares.
Obamacare
Yeah just like the rest of Hollywood. They all "care" for everyone, more specifically, the blacks. Except for business owners who are being looted and and beaten by these "protesters".
Alexandra Dian thanks for referring to the black community as “the blacks”. good to know that you as a white person dont support equality and that you value property/merchandise over lives.
@@hisureiss6618 pipe down Alexandra
@@hisureiss6618 people have done peacefully protest for years and years and nothing have changed, police still treats black people in the same way they treated in the 60s, they are tired, with anger
Changes need to be made by any means necessary
Wow, this did not disappoint. I think this is the single greatest and most informative thing I've seen all week. Thanks Conan and Van. Van Jones you have a new big fan.
@Respect/Walk I know man, I've been trying to work out, but it's tough with the quarantine and 2 young children. Thanks for the bit of motivation though, respect.
@@fathead1616 The best response to a moron trying to invalidate your comment!
EXACTLY what my thoughts are on this!
I learned so much from this
I called the DA today to give my two cents and asked that the other three officers be charged.
Music Is A Rainbow @Chill Out: Mohamed Noor, the black officer who killed Justine was an idiot. He was wrong. There was no hesitation in his being arrested and put in prison, where he OBVIOUSLY belongs. Had there been no cameras and so many witnesses to George Floyd’s murder, the 4 clowns who killed him would still be walking free. The DA moved very slowly in arresting the other 3 ex cops. Treat ALL police murders the same, regardless of race is the point here, which I’m sure you probably see.
Sure they appreciated that Karen.
Praying for peace, unity and love across every divide for all Americans. From Australia
United we stand divided we fall
Appreciate the thought! (but PM Scott Morrison said Australia doesn't need to import such things..) --> Aus has its own Trumps
@@LamZL1 it doesn't have it's own trumps but it need one.
Appreciate it
Thank you :)
We appreciate Conan for doing this. JUSTICE
Conan -Make one more video for “hate crime” for Chinese. Black people are so friendly toward themself. They have been outspoken for themself.
powerful: "If you just say because someone has on a blue uniform, you gotta back them no matter what, that's gang mentality. That's not constitutional democracy, that's gang mentality...essentially you have a number of gangs in a community, just one of them has on a badge."
Ralph McBride it is a gang called KKK
The very first part, the "I try to teach my kids how to stay safe when they encounter a policeman" is mind boggling to me.
I’m black and everyone I know got those talks growing up
strandvaskeren I remember giving my godson that lesson when he was about 8, and being scared because he didn’t immediately grasp it since all his police “interactions” came via kiddie tv shows.
As a person outside the USA it very mindboggling like do black people literally sit there kids down and talk about police officers, as if there talking about marriage and stuff ?
I'm Asian, I'm from Oakland and even we get those talks growing up. Nowadays they give those talks in schools. Elementary schools. Why so young? Because when you are a person of color, they shoot to kill, no matter age. Look up "8 year old pepper sprayed by police". Get ready to cry.
@@conquestv4024 Yes. You have to.
We always knew underneath the floppy red hair and goofy persona was a smart, thoughtful and empathetic person. Well done Conan. Van Jones has an important voice and message that should be heard. Justice for Floyd.
He's a Harvard grad... and i don't think he bought his way in, unlike some.
isn't exactly a deep hidden secret that Conan is pretty darn smart.
@@moimeself1088 He didn't, he comes from a smart family With a scientist/MD for a dad and successful Lawyer for a mother.
This was an amazing interview. I’ve been so against 99% of what Van Jones says when he’s on CNN but that’s not him. This is the real man. I hope he keeps going with this level of honesty and sincerity. He’s got me fired up for the future. Complete turnaround of my opinion.
@@moimeself1088 And he didn't get in because of affirmative action
I’m sorry to say I haven’t been part of the solution for too long because I didn’t think I was part of the problem. I’m listening. Thank you for this perspective 👏
Unless you have been actively racist then there is absolutely no reason why you have been part of the problem. So if you are racist, perhaps best not to be; if you are not racist but happen to be white then why on earth should you feel guilt about something like this. Guilt by association is one of the most disgusting concepts imaginable; harking back to Catholic original sin. Think long and hard about your sense of responsibility as an individual before you allow someone to make you feel guilty as being part of a category.
@leo daly I don’t think people who don’t feel guilt should be demonized but if you don’t feel bad for watching your fellow man be killed and oppressed while doing nothing I think that is heartless
@@matthewsiefert2432 Matthew, there is a big difference between feeling empathy for your fellow man and feeling guilt for your fellow man, do you not agree?
leo daly I quite emphatically disagree. One does not need to be the perpetrator to share blame. If I pass someone on the street who is injured and asking for help I am certainly not guilty of inflicting the injury, but if I choose to do nothing than I am partially responsible for that person’s fate.
I don’t feel a useless sense of guilt. I felt it, acknowledged it, and have now moved on to trying to do something about it. Firstly to gain new perspectives like what’s being shared here.
@Leo you are soooooooo......ugly and pitiful kind of human!!! Of course you are guilty if you have never stood up or said nothing for the hundreds murdered, thousands incarcerated wrongly, millions of people brought to this country against their will and still being treated as second/third class citizens, after literally whose body's created the wealth this country you enjoy you pitful creature. You and who ever agrees with you are RACIST, lost and soulless devils. Good luck on judgment day with your sad commentary. I don't want your help or sympathy personally, because my faith teaches the Elohim of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob will have the last word. Woe to those that call evil good or good evil.
Conan did the right thing by bringing Van to give us an actual perspective. Excellent. Let's learn together.
The best piece of media on the current situation. Van’s brilliant at contextualizing it.
Conan is being the perfect ally - saying little; asking few, but the correct, questions.
Van Jones earned his JD at Yale, has founded several non-profit organizations regarding racial and environmental issues, and worked in the Obama administration. He is a man to listen to regarding multiple items - including this current crisis.
Dont forget that he's also well on his way to earning his race pimp cane. Great work Van. You're making Reverend Al, and Jessie Jackson proud.
It's so hard to be black in America they don't have billionaires, millionaires, politicians, bankers, lawyers, doctors, professors etc.
Hang on a minute....
Societies always have structural inequality, poor white or poor black doesn't matter...
@@Antechynus what?
The police in my area were on a “show them who’s in charge” power-trip, I guess because of what happened in Minneapolis.
A few days ago, I was illegally stopped by two cop cars for “dark tint”. (Mind you, the car came with 20% tint on it and I’ve had it for two years with no problem). My car was illegally searched because the cop “smelled marijuana” (never smoked a day in my life and I ride alone). The officers unlocked and went through my locked glovebox and locked trunk without consent, tossed my car, ran my license to find nothing. They handed me my license back, jumped in their cars and took off.
I couldn’t get their names or badge numbers and they didn’t issue me a traceable ticket for anything, INCLUDING THE “DARK TINT” they stopped me for. They probably never even called the stop in. They just tossed my car and left. All they had to do was pull something from a pocket and slip it under my seat, and there went my freedom.
I didn’t break any laws. I have no warrants or drugs. I had a valid license, tag, and insurance. My tint was a fix-it ticket AT THE MOST. And police in my state aren’t allowed to stop you solely for tint regardless. The reason this happened was not primarily because I’m black (one of the officers was also black), but because they knew they wouldn’t get into trouble for it. This is where oversight and accountability come into play. No excuse for those handfuls of rioters, but plenty excuse for reform. That’s what this is about. This man said everything right. Respect to him and Conan for addressing it.
80%AshamedOfYou
OMG that is ridiculously scary and so unnecessary!! I’m so sorry you had to endure that. :(
That kind of behaviour from the police has to stop immediately. We are on your side.
@Vex T It's both though.
😭 thank you for sharing!
Imagine if they started arresting McDonalds employees when they burned a hamburger (cops are hired with the same qualifications as fast food employees). Employees would find ways to cover the camera or not write their names on the wrapper. If too many employees got arrested, nobody would be willing to work at McDonalds, except the worst workers (problem with cops).
I hope your message gets out more. It's about checking police power and accountability. You know the same thing thst happened to you just happened to a friend of mine while back. Hes white, pulled over by cops, they said the same thing to him. searched his car, which was packed with his belongings cause he was moving. They had to dig things out into the street to search his whole car. They found nothing and left. I lived in the adjacent unit next to his mom. A month later they broke into her place cause they said there was an emergency call coming from that residence. BS.. they were in Argentina on vacation.. saw 8 cops break in and search the place. Who knows if they stole something.
I think the media really likes to play up racial victim hood. It's terrible. The phycological effect of it is insane. Where can you go, what can you do if you believe your life is the way it is because the country is discriminating against you for your skin color? You can do nothing but fight and become bitter or just give up at that point. At least that's how I'd feel...I grew up poor in the city and also in some rural parts of towns. Move around a lot growing up. Been called all kinds of racist names just for having light skin or for being mixed race. Luckily I surrounded my self with good people and good friends from all backgrounds. It became clear to me that the media poisons people at an early age. That and seeing that there are some organizations out their that use race to bait and rile people up to gain power. Some people are hurting so bad that they just get tricked into thinking their problems are about race and that anyone not the same color is an enemy... We are the content of our character not our skin color. But when you are hurting it's easy to revert to blaming others even if it doesn't make sense. The sad thing is sometimes they are right. Sometimes its racism that's causing a problem. But I have to believe it's an outlier. Otherwise the terrorists win...
I just want to leave a comment so that hopefully the algorithm spreads this video.
Kris Cadwell I hope it works. This should reach more people.
I’m with you on that, buddy.
Thank you Kris!
Commenting on your comment in hopes the algorithm picks up on this lively discussion
Commenting on ur comment to spread this. Come on algorithm, do your thing!
i cant say i have watched many videos of two men talking seriously for 30minutes straight. but i watched this one. worth it.
One of Conan's, and late night TV's greatest shows ever. Kudos to Van. Bless him and his family.
The weird part is that this conversation is truly meaningful for the society we live here in INDIA... This is the larger truth for most of the disputes of our society!!
Hey! I am an indian teenager and i was wondering how i could look into these disputes in my country through this conversational medium of listening and exchanging.
I have failed , before the corona, to understand and know. You see i live in my privilege and this shell and i believe i never understood the standings and hardships before 2020. I saw the recent heartbreaking protests and the migrant crisis and it broke me apart.
What i am asking from you is do you have any articles , videos or anything you would like to recommend. I believe your older than me and i wish if you could share your experience.
Here is one i would like to recommend you if you have time:
Muzzafarnagar baaqi hai (a 2015 documentary on riots and cleansing in muzzafarnagar. It is available on Netflix and also on TH-cam if i remember)
Stay safe.
Racism is worldwide
Never forget 1984
@Airbus A380 you are doing the exact same thing . I agree discriminatory behavior needs to be called out but not while overlooking your own.
@@jaydavids6485 correct .
This needs to be broadcasted on all news networks.
i've become addicted to conan's humor under covid19 and now i see him as a serious interviewer striking the exact right chord. fandom now fully baked. conans just awesome. horrific time handled well. xo
Me too. I've been bingeing on Conan's trips to other countries. They are wonderful videos and hilarious. Especially when he went to Greenland.
zan zy
They’re not fanning out on Conan. They’re applauding his commentary and handling of a tough and sensitive subject matter, given how he’s always known for comedy.
You gotta see Conan taking Korean lessons 😂
@Chauncey watch some of his graduation speeches like the Dartmouth one!
He loves being silly and comedic above all else but he's a very smart and eloquent man, offers so much more than just entertainment.
@zan zy you're right how could one shift the focus from the black equality argument to a well intentioned talk show host who still benefits indirectly from white supremacy
🤟🏻🤟🏽🤟🏿This is some of THE most insightful and inspiring information about dealing with the racism plaguing our country that I have come across! Thanks Van Jones. I agree, “we need to come together” One love🤟🏻🤟🏽🤟🏿
Here here. Conan's priorities and ability to bring honesty and humility to socio-political subjects rather than pandering to the obvious and popular opinions makes him so smart and inspirational.
Christopher Bridges th-cam.com/video/mPyzvH_yBpc/w-d-xo.html
When Conan's up and no jokes are made you know things are just awful.
He did NOT interrupt him once. I've always loved Conan !
That was good let him speak don’t interrupt
This is one of the most comforting and informative things I have heard in the last few days. So good to hear from Van. Thank you Conan.
the great thing is that he just let Van talk which is what is needed.
As an attorney myself, I am so happy to hear you call out the prosecutorial community regarding the disproportions in charging. The charges that were filed were a reaction to social pressure, rather than a true reflection on how everyday citizens, especially minorities, are charged and prosecuted. Thank you.
Kneeling and chocking a black man for 7 minutes is definitely not a 3rd degree murder or as he stated an “oopsie murder”. How was that even thought of as a mistake?
Should have been 2nd degree murder. But hey, 3rd degree murder can carry a 25 yr sentence and manslaughter can be up to 8 yrs so 33 yrs max. Right now, we can only hope he gets max prison time.... unless charges change.
It’s good they got him on a lesser charge. It’s more likely to stick when he goes to trial.
The officer that killed George Floyd is now being tried for first degree murder.
@@bigchug1796 really? Where did you see that?
Someone in the comments was explaing that in Minnesota third degree murder is the same as second degree murder everywehere else. Second degree in Minnesota is for things like drivebys & 'oops' stuff that Van described. First degree requires proof of premeditation. If they tried to go for first degree & he was acquitted - they wouldn't be able to charge him again for the same crime. So maybe third degree murder is the charge that will get the best outcome in terms of seeing that he is made accountable. The O.P. mentioned that he learnt about it on the "Opening Arguments" podcast after being outraged at the charge & trying to work out was was going on with it.
I appreciate the way this was handled by Team Coco.
Thank you Conan, for inviting Van. It was great to listen to him, very enlightening.
Totally agree on Van Jones’s comments about coming together and reforming the system. It’s so sad that it’s always tragedies that push forward history.
Reasons there's no black hockey players?
Yeah the protests shouldn't stop till we get a reform in the system.
Be vigilant when you say reform, bc historically reform has been used to institute small unhelpful changes that don’t help at all. We need an entire new system instead of bandaids on a sinking ship.
Need more of this level-headed discussions. More importantly our leaders need to be level-headed and inspiring in this desperate times.
As a mix race it becomes easier to see things from other perspectives, and I honestly wish that more white people could see how by saying you "don't see color" or "all lives matter" you are not seeing the injustices that people of color have had to deal with for so long and how saying those things can be a racist thing to say. Racism is real, and just like an addiction, the first step to recovery is admitting your wrongdoings. I am lighter skinned than a lot of my relatives and have witnessed first hand how people would treat me one way and treat my relatives another way. It has truly broken my heart just like the moment I saw the video of George. George Floyd, may you always be remembered and never forgotten. Black Lives Matter.
I do believe that is hard for multi-racial kids. You belong everywhere (and harder, nowhere) I am "Full" Dine' and my youngest 2 are mixed. I have worked long and hard to make them strong. Them, being half Navajo makes it easier to take on the world. White privilege? That is another whole story in the Southwest.
Which side of your family is treating you bad? The black or white side? I am mixed race too so I get what you are saying.
@ANTOINE RAFAEL R. MAXIMO Did you not just look at this video or is it too long?
@ANTOINE RAFAEL R. MAXIMO Wow! For you to ask that question shows how tone deaf you are. Black people have never said that *only* Black Lives Matters but that BLM *too* !
We all face injustice, it isn't exclusive to one race.
You know it's a deep problem when a person has to teach their kids how to survive the police...
@J St. Angelo Lol, what are you on about, please..😒
The point that it’s my civic duty to educate myself to live live in a multicultural society is golden
I agree with you. I work on it everyday, wherever, whenever I can.
agreed
It was a great interview. Thanks you Van Jones for sharing your idea. It was very helpful to understand the whole situation.
Conan continues to show his thoughtfulness and sensitivity and relevance for having this unbelievably articulate man on his show. Such a shame we're having these conversations well into the 21st century, but god bless men like Jones and O'Brien for choosing to talk the difficult talk on a public forum.
Robert Marchese “unbelievably articulate” ? Typical bigotry of low expectations
Neil Mo Agreed. Why would that be unbelievable?
This is the Northern Fox Van Jones was mentioning. Someone that smiles and agrees while still holding that prejudice in the background and not confronting it.
This is a great dialogue
I have now listened to this interview beginning to end three times. It's that compelling. Mr. Jones is right, people should read that book, *The New Jim Crow*, by Michelle Alexander.
*We shouldn’t let pain have the last word*
or the last laugh
Van’s mind is much needed.
I like this serious intellectual Conan.
There's a youtube series called "Serious Jibber Jabber" where it's Conan sitting with certain guests and doing serious talk. I think it ended since there hasn't been any new updates in a long time, but it's a good watch.
U must not be old enough to remember. He is a great guy
Didn't he graduate from Harvard?
The man graduated from Harvard and wrote for SNL and the Simpsons, just because he acts goofy on his show doesn't mean that's how he always is. Many people are multi-faceted.
I’d highly recommend listening to his podcast if you wish to see more of this conan
That hit me pretty hard. Through my life I have always thought to myself if I do the right thing with an officer I’ll be alright. But what he said in the beginning. About not having something to tell his kids to make sure they are safe with a cop, puts me on the verge of tears.
Wow both of them-very honest, very thorough, very well done.
Van Jones is one of the most level headed man i've ever heard from. No irony intended😬👨🦲
From France, where we also have our issues : great discussion. Quite a bit of thinking to do know! Thank you sirs. Really.
100% this guy needs his own show, he can put into words what most can't.
I hope he starts a video podcast. I'd prefer him unrestrained from the mainstream media.
He has his own show lol look him up.. He has his upsides to the way he looks at things, but at the end of the day he's a CNN shill. Especially because CNN pays his salary.
this is one of the most informative videos i've seen. Van Jones is a leader that focuses on truth and facts over politics. we need to see more of him.
Conan is DA MAN!! He's not only a funny guy but a good person. I always appreciate him.
I'm on the other side of the atlantic but honestly this sad and horrid to witness, I believe in american people to have in their heart to change the status quo because it really is disheartening and hope change comes sooner rather than later
Nothing will change by itself. It hasn`t for too long to just happen right now. People have to act on it. And the terrible truth is, more people will die before change arrives.
And I honestly can`t see an end to all of this. If people go back to their everyday lifes now, nothing will change in the long run.
ron comey watching this nightmare from Canada - I just don’t understand them. So much money and power and global influence and yet their issues with race and white privileged have not changed since the days of slavery. I hope they can find a peaceful way to find their way forward
@H&SAnimations But what is the point in saying that though. Isn't that just a mundane observation and a total non sequitor?
thank you for your solidarity. we are all a world family, lets all stay united
So am I. And I agree 💯.
Thank you Conan and Val Jones for this. Absolutely enlightening.
Alexander Steiner get off this page then!!!!! 😒😒😒😒
You heard two Hollywood liberals confirm your world view and say things you wanted to hear. Yes, very enlightening.
Thanks Conan for taking the time to address this topic and posting it. Love it. at 22-24min mark "Can't we all just sit down, everyone, both sides of the isle, NAACP, etc and discuss this openly. Pray but just come together"
It's so great when people have space to speak. I was gripped, felt like 5 mins, and it was an insightful 30! Thank you Van Jones, thank you Conan and Team Coco! Looking forward to a better world, hate that it was George's sacrifice
Conan has so many goofy interviews that I love to rewatch that I forget how great of an interviewer he is during these serious times as well
If I could give this a million thumbs up I would. Which begs the question, how have there been almost 1000 people who have given this a thumbs down!??? Thank you Van Jones for speaking so truthfully and eloquently about this crisis! Thank you Conan for your efforts to be part of the solution and for fostering helpful dialogue.
This is why we love Conan. Respect
One of your best interviews, Conan. You rock.
God bless you both!
I enjoyed listening in to the conversation.
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I have adored Mr. O'Brien for 16 years now. The adoration only grows with every bit of his neutral and recent tacklings of Trump-era issues. Love this guy. He chose a great speaker too (Van Jones).
The idea of giving police officers the benefit of the doubt needs to end. They take risks ,but cannot be above the very laws they are enforcing
Mr. Van Jones is right on every account! Especially the part about people worldwide of all races & walks of life, who are appauled and shocked to the core! I pray everyday for a better world. Tell us what we can do to help, please 🙏 Cheers from Switzerland
11:36 „you have a number of gangs in the community, one of them just happens to have a badge.“
The gang that protects law abiding citizens who contribute to society...
And legally allowed to carry guns, batons, pepper spray, rubber bullets, stun guns and a huge amount of bullets and even ram tanks into houses as well as being allowed to lie to suspects during interrogations.
Bender_82 You‘ve studied your theory I see
@@bender_8282 Actually, lots of gangs sometimes use their power to protect law abiding citizens who contribute to society. That doesn't mean gangs do mostly good overall, or that the bad they do shouldn't be stopped. Or are you trying to say the police have never supported a corrupt person, or protected a criminal for any reason? Seems like you're childishly naive.
I honestly watched this begrudgingly because I thought it would be a downer in a bad time, but I knew I needed to. So I'm glad to see bit of hope
Conan I have just realized has to be one of the most compassionate and genuine human beings I have seen period. Just the little subtle things he does that are so human, which puts far ahead of other whites in terms of understanding. Number 1, he is the one who is allowing a black person to speak on behalf of his tid bit because he realizes the times. And GOD's clock is saying it is time for white people PROPORTIONALLY to shut up and listen and learn. Obviously whites are a majority you can't even say the white majority is racist. This country is too damn big and wouldn't be honest. But proportionally 1/3 of whites have to shut up and learn. Conan who is an extreme success admits he didn't understand third degree murder and asked a black person to EDUCATE him on it. That word of education is now and always has be a common factor when it comes to people who care and people who don't.
this guy is very bright good interview by conan letting this man speak good stuff
“That’s not a chip on my shoulder, that’s your foot (knee) on my neck.” - Malcolm X
@Suffer No Fools Google will do you wonders. Or read his autobiography. Self education is important. Peace and love ✌🏾
Thanks Conan. The tone was spot on.
In Australia, and feel so helpless that this man was treated as nothing by the police. Murder pure and simple.
This happens in Auatralis too it is just not published nearly as much! As well as supporting black people in American we must support the black communities here too!! Please speak up for indigenous and other black people in Australia too!!
Jaz yeah right not only with
Black but with browns.. Specially South Asians..
C D Speaking of Australia, I was reminded of the death Justine Damond, another incident that gets my blood boiling. Google her if you don’t know. The police in the us man, smh.
I admire Van’s directness and sensitivity. He covered a lot of important ground here. Van, thank you. Conan, it was great to see you, but thank you for giving Van the floor.
One of the greatest interviews I’ve seen in a long long time
14:00 As a Singaporean Chinese, where my city state is famous for its racial harmony, I can tell you quite frankly, if you want your society to be educated about racism, you have to pay the price of education. The Singapore government made sure that we are brought up from early schooling to have respect for everyone regardless of race and religion. It's even written in our national pledge. Everyone has to play their part, both as individuals, and as a community.
Lee Kwan Yu also burned down all the criminals 🙂
isn't it true that minorities Singaporean have difficulties to rent houses ? Company meetings conducted in a language that is not understood by minorities ?
no country is perfect ,nobody is perfect. Its no point that the government FORCE people to integrate /respect each other. Respect and love comes from your own heart
How many blacks live in your city state of Singapore.
singapore is a notoriously conservative society that enforces a certain social/racial/economic class as the norm. Respect for eveyrone? Don't make me laugh.
@@andysamy3490 Liar liar, pants on fire.
The fact that a video as pure and honest as this still has nearly 10% people giving it a thumbs down, shows that there is a lot of work to be done on racial equality.
@W B wow way to prove a point about racial inequality. You are literally racist.
@W B shame on you
The challenge is there for the 90% to do more. A portion of the 10% (the weak/undecided) will follow. The diehard portion of racists will be exposed/marginalised. Our planet requires that we work together. We have no where else to live....
I want to copy this interview and post it everywhere. So much insight. So eloquently put. May this conversation continue until we see change
Conan, please have Van on the podcast. Ask him to tell his life story. I'm a big fan of the podcast and I think Van would be a great guest.
More people need to hear this. Your lives matter! I appreciate Conan’s professional interview and Van Jones is excellent at articulating more about this sadness to those of us who will never know true oppression. May this man’s death not be in vain. Praying for peace, understanding, justice and love.
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White Lives Don't. Nobody rioted for Tony Timpa, a white man who died in almost the exact same circumstances, in footage released just last year.
@@vladivanov5500 How fitting with a Putin profile pic. Now it's confusing that the "all lives matter" is seen as being opposite that of "black lives matter" but black lives matter doesn't say other lives don't matter it's focus is on the actual disparity on the rates of death of black males at the hands of police. It's called systemic racism. (Also, missed the part where an officer put his full weight on his knee on Tony's neck...but that shouldn't matter either)
Tony Timpa’s death should have never been in vain either. He died the same way as George but because he was white so he couldn’t get the same justice. May their spirit live on ❤️
Well I wrote this because I’m trying to educate myself. And I appreciate this discussion because I WANT to at least try to understand what I know I don’t know and never will. I wanted to show appreciation for this interaction.
Thanks for releasing the full interview!
"I CANT BREATH"
let me cry alone
let me generously weeping my only son
let my tears rain
pour my tears down
my soul seared on my most beloved
my skin betrayed me
my beloved only son
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