I woke up at 3am to watch Diana get married when I was 11...and woke up at 3am to watch her funeral...I always loved her, she wasn’t a perfect person, but doesn’t mean I didn’t love her and look up to her strength (at least publicly) in the face of adversity, and her always seeming to help others. That is what she always meant to me, someone who loved and cared for others, especially those in the lowest difficulties. I feel for her, maybe because I just grew up with her. I know she had a lot of problems, but, she also brought a lot of happiness, caring and joy to people all over the world. Thank you for your analysis, Dr. Grande. As always, a fair and conscientious analysis.
I remember getting up at 5 to watch her wedding before hurrying off to work, and what I was doing the night her death was announced on tv. She really was an exceptional person and taken from us way too soon.
Lelleith Murray I was visiting home for Labor Day Weekend, and had just been out to dinner with the family. Came home, turned on the TV, and there was breaking news that she was in a car crash...I really thought she would be ok...It wasn’t possible for her not to be. Sat there glued to the TV most of the night, around 2 to 3am my time, it was announced that she had died. I was devastated. I had just started grad school the week before...that funeral is grilled into my brain....the flowers with the card that said “Mummy” on them...Elton John singing...all of the flowers. Yet another person taken too young, too soon.
I was thinking the same thing. My high school graduation in 1981 fell a month before her wedding and I recall the wedding was the highlight of the summer everywhere on all news networks. In fact, a popular soap opera, Young and the Restless (Y&R) worked it into one of their storylines from the late spring into summer. The next year, I was riveted on the radio during one of my summer jobs, waiting for the announcement of little Prince William's birth. Fast forward to 1997, the world would mourn a beautiful but long suffering soul.
That was the problem for Diana. She was too honest and open. She could no longer pretend and in the end she just said, 'fuck it'! Sad as she was getting her life back together even though she feared reprisal and that came.
@@sherunswithscissors who says they didn't? the pressTITutes$? who is at the top of the food ChAIN? that feeds the minds, bodies and soul to their subjects?
@@sherunswithscissors .the royals are told not to wear seatbelts in case they have to escape during a kidnapping attempt. I saw this on another TH-cam video.
This is true for many professions. This particular hospital was undergoing budget constraints. The facility was trying to optimize their work pool. There was this instance where a guy that made keys was forced to perform work in a hospital operating room. One day while upgrading oxygen & anesthesia hoses, he mixed up the connections by mistake. Later when the room was in use, the anesthesiologist attempted to give more oxygen but the patient received anesthesia instead. Fortunately the anesthesiologist caught the error before the patient could have been harmed. Unskilled managers are just as dangerous as unskilled workers
And she blame her parents in public media. That was very embarassing moment for an adult like her. When she lost control of anger, she start to blaming others. I'm 28 years old, and i feel same too because I'm very insecure.
And after a failed and loveless marriage, she was starting dating with an another very rich and difficult man, that didn't suit her, like Dodi Al-Fayed, he already had a very bad reputation with women, hitting, fighting, assaulting and abusing them, the best example was his fiancee, he left her even after giving a very expensive engagement ring, when a mutual friend introduced him to Diana Diana won't be happy with Dodi, he was muslim and didn't care about women feelings only about himself because his traditions and type education, obviously Dodi Al Fayed was even worse than Prince Charles
@@nestorvilla3605 islam teaches people to treat each other with the upmost respect he is obviously not religious because if he was he would know how to treat people right so please do not bring islam into this.
@@rubyroseanne6951 : If you do not know the reality of things, better not speak! you say islam treats others with respect !! ohh yes, where women are third-class beings, they have to cover themselves up, using burqas, they can't go out without their husbands or their father and where others are so respected that they kill them when they say something they don't like, ohh yes too much respect
@@nestorvilla3605 Islam does teach respect for women & girls! Unfortunately, as in all cultures & religions there are those who abuse their power over the fairer sex, as we would say. Women covering themselves is a right. A right to not be displayed like a piece of meat & to not be judged on her looks, & just be treated as “Eye Candy” for the pleasure of men, especially those who have no relation to you & do not love you! Why should a woman have to dress provocatively in tight clothes & her cleavage showing to be valued & accepted in society? Why is she only valued if she is attractive? That is the real repression!! Not being looked at for your mind & treated like a intelligent human being with thoughts & ideas that are respected in their own right. Also, women don’t have to work, but if they do, their money is their own, to do with what they want. They can save it, spend it, loan it, invest it, give it, etc. to whomever, or on whatever, they choose. Women of other faiths are expected to help pay the household expenses, pay for food, car payments, medical expenses, etc. Muslim women are allowed to stay home with their children. Their main focus is to care for their children, organize & keep their home running smoothly. Men’s jobs are to be the breadwinners & protectors of their families. Women have the right to be educated as well. Women in Islam don’t have to take their husbands surname either. It is her choice. Some do, but most do not, unless they hyphenate their surname with their husbands surname to combine the two. She has a right to be known, from what family she comes from. Most women in other religions take the husbands name & are viewed as his marital property after marriage. I’m not saying that there are not abuses that occur within Muslim families, but these abuses happen just as much in non-Muslim families as well. Domestic violence & other types of emotional, physical, & verbal abuses are just as rampant in other cultures & religions too. This is not exclusive to Muslims. My point is, that many people believe whatever the media tells them, even if it’s not accurate. People should investigate for themselves. There are billions of Muslims in many, many countries. They are not all bad. The majority are good. It is actually the fastest growing religion in the world now. Please educate yourself before disparaging another person’s beliefs. You would not want someone to do that to you! It does not facilitate greater understanding & better human relationships when people make incorrect assumptions & then spread it as if it were factual. I invite you to learn more at your local Islamic Center, or online. There are many websites, TH-cam videos, & other resources, that would be happy to give you a free English copy of the translation of The Holy Quran & other books that explain Islam more in depth. They would be happy to answer any questions that you may have. I bid you, Peace!!🙏
You hit the nail on the head. It’s always puzzled me why some people are set in casting Diana as either a perfect being or a villain. She was flawed like the rest of us. The same goes for Charles he wasn’t an innocent victim or this monster that some try to make him out to be.
I question Charles as his good friend was Jimmy Saville, a prolific rapist of children and the sick children in a hospital he had the run of. Diana did not like him, even with this information, that was not known by the public yet.
Over the years, I think Diana has been put on a pedestal - and that is a great understatement! - to the point where she can do no wrong. I appreciate it whenever anyone points out that she was a fallible human neing albeit with many admirable traits.
I feel that Dr. Grande's analysis was very fair, especially in saying that neither Charles nor Diana had to be "The Villan", and that people are both good and bad. Their story just makes me sad, especially that her sons lost her so early.
So many people seem to forget the fact that Diana was only 19, that should speak volumes regarding the self serving behaviour of the Royals; poor young girl, so badly used by such cunning adults....I live in Britain, hope Charles never gets the crown. People who use children for their own selfish ends deserve no rewards.
@@olasmith8132 She was not a child, she was 19 and a young adult. She had her flaws as well, was quite unstable and also slept with other people's husbands. What was done to her was wrong but she certainly was no angel either.
@@olasmith8132 Diana wanted to marry the PoW for years and did things to make that happen. She wasn't tricked into it. 19 is young but she lived in a world of aristocracy and was well aware of what was going on. Her age and privilege may have convinced her though that once she had him she would change him.
I worked in the mental health field for 37 years. I remember when I sawher in person t.v. interview how " borderline " came across strongly. I also agree that the stress on such a young innocent person would have impacted her greatly. His commentary waswell done.
She was not that innocent. In the famous interview, she describe he hatred against her step-mother and how she pushed her from the stairs :-/ When Diana died, I was a teenager and believe in the story of poo, innocent victim of evil husband. Now I think that Charles and Diana were just two unhealthy people, raised in loveless, toxic families, with Diana being BPD and Charles being possibly a narcissist. They were each other's nemesis. It simply couldn't work.
I really believe that their marriage was doomed from the start. Charles had aways wanted Camilla but because she wasn't deemed suitable he had to find himself another woman to marry. Diana was ideal because she was young, beautiful, wealthy and a virgin which was so important at the time. I mean to think how young she was, 19 when she got engaged and 20 when they married. She really didn't know what she was getting herself into, the pressures of the royal family and a husband who was always infatuated with another woman.
The interference from the Press did not help the marriage. First came the publication of a scandalous biography of Diana -- in which she is thought to have cooperated -- depicting Charles as an unfeeling cad who had driven his lovely young wife to attempt suicide. Then came the release of taped phone conversation in which a male admirer breathed heavily into Diana's ear and called her "Squidgy." Weeks later came another tape in which Charles and an old flame, Camilla Parker-Bowles, passionately professed their love for each other, reportedly discussing their "private parts."
@@joanlynch5271 which he's married to now...after her death. The guy, Charles has guts. His poor sons...to see the woman your dad actually loved and it's not your mother. So sad!
She was one of the first people, that I know of, to go boldly into a hospital treating AIDS patients. She sat down and held hands with these people who were dying, in an era when people still believed that touching someone with AIDS was contagious. It was a remarkable moment. She had guts
Being In a loveless marriage can cause so much pain. This stress is hard to manage alone . It can make you physically sick . I fully understand Diana. Such a beautiful person. May she Rest In Peace!
After a horrible father she was at the mercy of Elizabeth and Philip She could have had the upper hand if she hadn't had affairs. No good can come of a marriage where the man is not in love with the woman. Recipe for disaster
I've been there and know what it's like. My kids tell me I've BPD but they don't know what I've been thru and they don't care bcz they hv their own lives. I feel for Diana. I was her age when she got married. I stayed up 48 hours straight to watch the rerun of the fairy tale wedding. Didn't like charles from the beginning. She was this gorgeous young lady that wowed the world. She will always be remembered despite her flaws. She was Peoples Princess! I loved her and still love her. Forever in our hearts. Forever remembered! 😔😟😢😭
It's a terrible thing to be saying your vows when you don't believe them. I allowed my mother to pressure me into getting married when I was pregnant. The whole time I was saying them (to God) I absolutely didn't intend to spend the rest of my life with the abusive man I married. When I heard Charles say, "whatever love is" in the engagement interview, my heart dropped. It really said it all and Diana knew it. She might have been young, but she had massive emotional intelligence. She said that traumatized here.
@@margaretmcgill526I totally agree with you. I feel so sorry for Diana and for all of us who entered into loveless marriages. Of course that messes us up.
Precisely. Diana was made to feel second best from the start. Camilla should be ashamed of herself but it seems the Brits will allow her to be the Rottweiler Queen. Awful woman. Just leave other women's husbands alone.
Diana herself spoke about her fear of abandonment, which started when her parents divorced and her mother moved away and out of her life (for the most part). People close to Diana have also spoken about Diana’s fear of adandonment and how it was rooted in her mother’s departure from her life.
We all have problems, some of us don’t tell all to folks in general. There is bitching & there is constructive outreach. What Di did was selfish & harmful to her boys & the Monarchy.
That is right, and to have married a man who quite clearly didnt love her and who obviously loved someone else was all that was needed to bring on Bulimia and her depression. Especially when you are in such a public elevated position. Poor lady she didnt stand much of a chance.
Who, outside of herself, could she rely on? Fergie wasn't much help other than for temporary laugh and play. Maybe Charles' betrayal was abandonment; however going out and doing the affair game is never a good response.
@@mc.8391 SHE WAS NOT REALLY AWARE THAT CHARLIE HAD A MISTRESS UNTIL THE NIGHT BEFORE THE WEDDING. SHE TOLD HER SISTER SHE DID NOT WANT TO GO THROUGH WITH THE WEDDING, HER SISTER DID NOT TRY TO HELP HER, TOLD DIANA ' TOO LATE DUCKIE YOUR FACE IS ON THE TEA TOWEL' SUCH A HORRIBLE SHAME.
My mother (who has borderline personality disorder) worshipped Diana, idolizing her to a very disturbing degree. Because of the abuse I suffered at my mother's hands, I cannot view Diana in a positive light because I see her behaviour through a very different lens. When my parents divorced, my mother launched a vicious and false smear campaign against my father, and many people believed her. Even I believed her, until I grew older and discovered the truth. When I moved out of her house ("abandoning" her) she did the same thing to me. Because of this, I often wonder how accurate the picture of Charles that Diana relayed to the public really is.
I think it is possible that Diana had CPTSD from her unstable childhood. It would explain her symptoms without being as disruptive to her life as BPD, and could appear similar to most people. Your discussion of the possibility of her having BPD was very objective and fair. She is something of a tragic figure to many, due to her being taken in the prime of her life. Thanks for the analysis, Dr. Grande. ❤️
C-PTSD can indeed be mistaken for BPD when the mental health clinician isn't extremely careful about taking a thorough history and/or discounts ongoing trauma particularly that in childhood. Whilst C-PTSD affects the sufferer you're right in that it definitely isn't as debilitating as BPD. Most people with C-PTSD find it difficult to trust others but their symptoms are more ones that affect their moods and redirect them back to the original traumatic experiences such as intrusive recall, panic attacks, insomnia, nightmares and, at times, self-injurious behaviours as an attempt to distract from the emotional pain they feel due to the abuse and an unfortunate legacy of feeling shame and detesting the physical body that was often the target of past abusers. It's a pity that Diana ended up in a marriage with a man who not only wasn't someone who loved her but who had no understanding of psychological matters and no empathy and who was dismissive of her emotional pain as being, he assumed, just dramatics designed at garnering attention. She deserved someone who genuinely cared about her and was empathetic.
Hi, Dr. Grande: Your brief personality analysis of Jackie Kennedy caught my attention, and I watched it with rapt interest. She became First Lady of the U.S. in 1963 when I was 10 years old, and like a lot of people, I was fascinated by her. I still am to this day, as you can see. I believe that part of what contributed to her appeal to most people, was the fact that she was born under the Sun Sign of Leo, and her Rising Sign was Scorpio. People born under either of those signs tend to attract a great deal of attention. In her case, she was influenced by both. She and Diana, Princess of Wales, have been two of the most photographed women in the world. After watching your personality analysis of Mrs. Kennedy, I went on to watch the following one on the Princess of Wales. My fascination with Diana, Princess of Wales, was the utter beauty of her spirit and her soul. She was also physically quite beautiful and elegant, poised and charming. She could have become quite spoiled and rotten a person if she'd wanted, and yet instead she chose to use her fame to bring attention to humanitarian issues. Having known personal pain, she showed empathy and compassion for the suffering others. Perhaps those who have some negative view of her, should do some actually reading on her early life, and then try and walk a mile in her shoes. Yes, of course, she had problems. Who doesn't? But all things considered, I think she handled herself extremely well, given all that she had to contend with, including living in a world that enables men when they have extra-marital affairs, as her husband did, but excoriate women when they have affairs, as she was. All I can say is, "Cheers to you, Diana, and I hope you're having a fabulous time in The Heavens! What a beautiful legacy you left, in such a short time on this planet." Dr. Grande, please pardon my going on. My purpose in writing to you, originally, was to comment on my profound appreciation for your sense of humor, which at times is deadpan, and so "right on the money." And I heartily agree with you, anyone lacking a degree in chemistry will have a difficult time being catapulted into a chemistry lab. Also, I admire your ability to remain neutral, and give a fair and balanced view on a person or a topic. It shows true integrity. Please keep up the good work. It is most appreciated.
Imagine being 19 and having your virginity discussed on national television not only by broadcasters but also having your uncles and father also confirm that. Yikes
Dr. G! So well phrased! "If we are going to force people into chemistry jobs we cannot complain if they blow things up." I'll be using that statement again in the future. Applies to so many situations. I've always felt that Diana was somewhat of a tragic figure. That being said her altruism was something to be greatly admired. She made a difference in the world and it was interesting she happened to be buried the same day Mother Teresa died. Both wonderful women who left an impression on the world.
@@funclassylassy4426 I suspect he got it from Christopher Hitchen's book. "The Missionary Position." It's a "tell all" book about all of the "unsaintly" things Mother Teresa did in her life. It's a cruise missile for sure. That being said, when I go over and spend my life in Calcutta living and dealing with the dregs of society and with the poor and disabled day after day then I figure I can criticize her. No one is perfect. Even Mother Teresa.
@@kkheflin3 Whose only motivation for the book would have been his hatred of Christianity, generally and Christians specifically. There will always be cowards who try to tear people down after they die, but are without the courage to do so while the person is still alive.
Let's not forget that she was also very young when she got married, and soon after pregnant. This alone, without the added stress of royalty, media, high expectations, etc. must have contributed to her having a hard time. I admired her for trying to keep a smiley face even though she must have wanted to scream. I was devastated to hear about her accident. Finally she was free and happy / happier... I'm sad she didn't get to see her boys grow up, she didn't get to meet her daughters in law and her grandkids.
I'm sure she'd have been ecstatic at lady dimglow and lady neighbourhood bike. One has all the personality of a depressed Golem and the other is the only girl who's played with more short throw stick shifts than Stirling bloody Moss.
She was young and totally unprepared for marriage. She did say that when she became pregnant with William that this actually helped her for a time and her and Charles actually became closer. Unfortunately it didn't last. They were just so incredibly uncompatible. I also see Charles as a victim as well. He made it clear when he met Camilla that she was the one and wanted to marry her. She eas not considered marriage material for the royal family, although today this would be different. He was being pressured by his family to get on with it and Diana ticked all the boxes. I think he would have liked more time to get to know her as I think he sensed they may not be suited to each other. He was pressured by the entire family and did it. It was obviously a mistake. Of course he could have been kinder, but I think her depression, bulimia and mood swings were something he wasn't equipped to handle. I have read that he tried to get her help and was always quite concerned about her mental state. It's a shame because if she lived, I am sure they would both be happily married and maybe even friendly as the old wounds healed and became wiser.
That doesn't matter plenty of women were young back then and got married at 17 and 18 years old and 19 years old. The '80s was the last generation they did it. Diana was just immature and mentally unstable. She wasn't innocent victim she had sex with. The '80s was the last generation they did it. Diana was just immature and mentally unstable. She wasn't innocent victim she had intimacy with other men doing the marriage and she went behind her husband's back and tried to expose him and his family to the world and she did do that. She passed away because of her own undoing
For those genuinely interested in Diana, her history including her mental health there are two books that have proven both accurate and ground breaking: 'Diana In Private' (1992), and, 'The Real Diana (2004)' (with further revealing Afterword; 2013), both are by Lady Colin Campbell, writer and international society figure.
I've read Diana's autobiography, I had tears in my eyes reading some of it because of how lonely and mentally low Diana was throughout her life... Charles often gaslighted her and made her feel "crazy" he also would often tell her "why arent you more like fergie... she has a better personality etc" , she talked about how on edge she was when she had to be around Charles, she tried to stay away from him he spent a lot of time in Scotland at Balmoral and she stayed in London. He never made her feel special or worthy even though she did SO much for other people. Her mental health was really bad she tried to end her life 5 times, she had bulimia and even her childhood was so unhappy, her father didn't show affection to her and he remarried this horrible woman... Throughout the book what really shined through was how caring and kind she was, she just wanted to help others and support normal people in deep dark times of their lives, she spent so much time in the ICU of hosptials holding vigils for people and helping their famiies . I love her
Another bpd symptom is accusing the nanny tiggy of having an affair with Charles and becoming pregnant .Diana was delusional none of it was true. Another feature is her reckless impulsive promiscuous behaviour. She had one night stands and jumped from Hazmat kaln s bed straight into dodis.. Diana want the fame and admiration and prevleges that came with marrying a prince she was not forced and she new that Charles was still keen on Camilla but married him anyway
“For those who are modest, It must be difficult to be artificially elevated into royalty, to be called special when they know they are not really special. They have to act above being a regular person. It’s like this plastic contrived world where someon’s actual skills and abilities don’t matter. It’s just what family they’re born into or who they married that elevates them. There’s something destructive about being awarded in a manner disproportionate to one’s ability, like an imposter effect, they would feel phony or disingenuous” HOLY crap. No one can be so eloquent and at the same time so savage as Dr. Grande. You are fantastic, Sir. 👏🏼
He is very good, and I'm very happy about this video. I asked him doing a video about "Charles and Diana" or maybe "Camilla, Charles and Diana"...best triangol ever...
Not everyone is on to the conspiracy side of things... but looking at Diana's bloodline, she was 'chosen" due to that, oh and of course the virgin bride thing went down well too.
IMHO, they needed a younger woman like Lady Di to provide the proverbial "heir & a spare." I think Lady Di loved the idea of being married to Chas., but when reality set in, she realized was set up to fail by just about everyone involved. Camilla ('Ol Horseface) was not acceptable by the old fashioned Royal family due to her romance/marriage record.
@E Aboudara I agree. She actually said she had a crush on him as a child, had his picture hanging over her bed. She also stated she knew (at least she thought at the time) they could never divorce. (As if that could make happiness) I think she was too naive, immature and emotionally damaged from her childhood and wanted a protector. I also think Charles wanted a mother figure, someone to dote on him. They both were looking for what they could receive from the marriage emotionally instead of how much they could support each other, have each other's back and build each other up. It was a marriage based on emotional selfishness and doomed for failure. Both sides have to give what the other needs....like the book The Five Love Languages.
Dr. Grande hits this one out of the park. Charles and Diana were just two people navigating their way through life, though a highly visible one. No heroes, no villians just people.
True, and for those who insisted on making either one of them (or both) as villain, just plain hypocrite. None of us is perfect and we don't know what's happened inside their life nor should it be our business to judge them. I like both Charles and Diana, but fully aware of their imperfection. Like most of us, they just trying to make sense of their lives and strive to find happiness. Diana never truly did find her happiness, but thankfully Charles finally did. We should leave both of them in peace. I believe at the end Diana and Charles forgave each other and wish each other well.
Diana grew up in royal circles, she was more aware of the life than she is given credit for. After all this it's nice to know that something good came from it, two people who love each other were finally united.
@@tdang9528 why am I self isolating? Because my son is being tested for Covid19 today and while waiting for results we aren't allowed to interact with people (here in Ireland)
Good point Also the fact around her death suggests there is even more to the story than the public knows The official investigation into her death came to some interesting conclusions - which were misrepresented/misunderstood/misintepreted by the media afterwards For example: it was not paparazzi who followed her information was withheld by different people - untill later where the story was mostly forgotten
During the time the Princess of Wales was still living I had two pen pals in England. One of them, male, said the royal family used Diana as "a brood mare". When the Princess died and there was a huge reaction of grief from the public (a phenomenon worthy of discussion) my other pen pal, female, said something like, "I don't know why I'm crying so much for someone I didn't even know". It's was mentioned by someone else a long time ago that when the engagement of Charles and Diana there were two photographs of them in the media but taken separately and it happened that Diana and Charles were each holding a book when photographed. Diana was holding a paperback romance by Barbara Cartland who I think was her step-grandmother while Charles was holding a scholarly book on eastern religion. Some people might take their disparate choice of reading material as an indicator that Diana and Charles were not suited to one another.
@@wendyleeconnelly2939 I can believe that. If someone were to see the mix of books I have they might think three people were living in my space or that I was a multiple personality!
@@sarahpiaggio2693 That's an excellent point! My own reading became more serious over the years and Diana probably had the same experience of moving beyond what interested her at 19.
Diana was bamboozled into a loveless marriage and then subjected to emotional abuse by her husband. That would make anybody neurotic after awhile. What is more, she was trapped. As Princess of Wales Diana couldn't just leave, not with her kids anyway, so she stayed married to a man who had used her for a Royal broodmare and then emotionally abandoned her, for 15 years. She hung in there for her kids. I see Diana, who was torn away from her mother by her wife beater of a father, as a woman who did indeed develop psychological problems as a result of the abuse she was subjected to, first by her father and then by her husband and his family. The remarkable thing about Princess Diana was how she transcended her troubles. Early on in the marriage she went public with her bulimia because it might help other sufferers. She had had a wretched, motherless childhood, so she made sure her sons had all the mothering and maternal love they needed. She was lonely and isolated in her marriage, and somehow that experience seemed to make her acutely aware of the loneliness in others. Shy as she was, she was not afraid to hug people who needed a hug. Diana took the hands of AIDS patients and people with leprosy. She sat on their beds and laughed and talked with them. Her visits to these most marginalized of people inspired, not just help in the form of donations but real social change, particularly with regard to people with AIDS. Near the end of her life Diana joined the humanitarian movement against landmines. People who know about landmines have said that Diana's work on banning these horrendous weapons--when she marched through mine fields and talked with traumatized locals--caused crucial action to be taken. Apparently, as many as 300,000 people are very likely alive now who would not be alive, were it not for the effectiveness of Diana's championship of the movement to ban landmines. 300,000 people. That's what I think of when I think of Diana, Princess of Wales. Not whether or not she was a bit nuts. We're all a bit nuts. Not many of us take our trauma and make good come out of it.
If Diana had been older, she may not have married Charles. Surely her sisters could have enlightened her about his relationship with Camilla but she was escaping from an unhappy home and her father was pleased with the match as was the RF, She was embraced by the people and has never fallen from her pedestal.
@@laurastuart3814 bit over the top Charles was with Camilla soon after William was born she said so in the documentary in her own words this must have destroyed her
Diana, like most people, was hoping for love and she did not have that with Charles. Knowing in your heart that the man you have given children to is in love with someone else could have caused many of her emotional problems. She was still looking for love when she died. Very sad.
Diana's emotional problems began in childhood. Marrying into the royal family sure didn't help, but she felt worthless the day her mom moved out and left her crying on the steps and her dad would not let her see her mom. Her and her young brother were too young to understand completely why her mom dropped out of their lives for so long. Her sisters were older, although it is interesting to note that second child Sarah was anorexic for a time. Oldest sister Jane seems to have been a lot more stable.
@@a.nonymous2089 to be fair, she never stated that her parents divorce made her feel worthless. she just said it was an emotionally volatile environment, and an unhappy childhood. traumatic life experiences doesn't equate to impacted self-image. when she reflected on herself, at school, with friends, siblings, working... she was very self -assured. saying that she knew she was meant for something really important and that is why she avoided getting into trouble in her teens. these are all statements of someone with a strong sense of self, very articulate and aware.
I had to listen to this again. You know, this poor Lady had everything in the way of wealth and power, but there just seemed to be no love in her life. No wonder she was so unhappy. I have no wealth or power, but I am so blessed to have a wonderful husband and a very happy life.
the ones who survive, like Kate, I think, view the Royal Family as a job. bringing awareness to various charities, etc. Kate seems to really do well with her work.
If I was Kate I'd have walked in the church, walked past the alter and legged it to a Charger 440 6 pack all warmed up and ready and got the hell out in Dodge... Flat out. Dealing with that family is like breeding crocodile monitors stark bollockless naked..
She couldn't have done more to show love to everyone. I used to think she was maybe acting shy, but then William peered out from under his fringe as a teen, and I realised it had been genuine bless her XxxX
0:31 Background 2:58 November 1981, January 1982 - Her condition worsens 4:52 After Divorce 5:05 August 31, 1997, Her Death, Escaping The Paparazzi in Paris France 6:00 OCEAN 8:42 BPD
Escaping the FAKE paparazzi masquerading as the legitmate paparazzi. They were intelligence service agents, executing the assassination of Princess Diana.
Most interesting. I believe your analysis is spot on. Diana is often either pitched as a princess angel or a crazy self-obsessed narcissist when in fact she is a human being put into a difficult position. She was also quite young when she got married and clearly had no idea what she was getting herself into. Contrast her with the two women Harry and William married and they at least seem to understand what they were getting into.
Catherine did yes but i cant say the same of Markle and she was in her late thirties when she became a Royal where as Diana was only nineteen and very naive...
@Krafty Kreator She wasn't PUT INTO a difficult situation. She knew about the relationship between Charles and Camilla yet she married anyway. She was naive to think she would win that battle. There are some things she had to take responsibility for. I think she did a lot of living and learning. The fact that she moved on after the divorce shoes that she had done some personal growth. I'm the end, she was cordial to Charles and wished him well and carried on with her life. It made her more confident with the paparazzi and public life.
Diana’s sister had dated King Charles and the family had a relationship with the royal family. She was of aristocratic bloodline and would of been more familiar with the royal family than a commoner would of. She did have a time to back out of the engagement. She had affairs first before King Charles got back together with Queen Camilla. She didn’t want the marriage to be over, King charles and the other royals didn’t know why Diana was always upset and sad. They thought she would fit into the royal family
@@whitedragoness23 At the time Charles and Diana married Charles was NOT king and Camilla was NOT queen. I don't understand why you use these particular nouns/pronouns for them (not as they were at that time) . Diana dated Prince Charles - reports say she met him only a few, 5 or 6 times before the nuptials. She may have had affairs before Prince Charles resumed having sexual relations with Camilla Parker Bowles.....but he did do that, and had the life altering epiphany to become her tampon.
I loved Diana. I still do. Of course she was flawed and none of us really KNEW her. She was a public figure. No matter what she said or did. No matter what anyone says or does; she had a big, soft heart and used her compassionate nature for good. She and I had children at the same time and it was not lost on me that she had high hopes for a good marriage and her dream failed because her husband was duplicitous. That really hurt me and it really hurt her. Charles obviously planned to have a royal marriage; one woman for wife and mother and another for love. That is his fault, whether Diana was overly emotional or not. There was no point where she agreed to that. So, as always, my heart goes out to her and her sons, who have paid the price for that duplicity.
I disagree that Charles "planned" anything. Like Diana, they both gave it their best shot, but they were just not a good match. Both Charles and Diana were basically good people, but like all of us they had flaws.
I love how objective you are Dr. Grande!!! And I respect you greatly for that. Many people today hate Charles and Camilla, making Diana a martyr which she was not.... life is complicated, to make it far more difficult with an arrange marriage with someone you know doesn’t love you; They ALL should have seen it coming
I remember that when William was a baby they made a state visit to Australia for about six weeks. She wanted to take Wills, as they called him, and he told her they never take the baby. She insisted and finally he asked the Queen who told him to let her take the baby; she'd never do it again. And she never did. Charles has perfect pitch and played the cello. It was arranged that he would play for his former teacher who had become the director of the Melbourne Conservatory of Music and all the media was there. Right in the middle of his performance she got bored and went over to the piano and started to play Rachmaninoff. All the media deserted him to watch her. I remember thinking, "They're doomed." And they were.
That's not what happened at all. Fortunately there is a youtube video which shows exactly what did happen. Diana was persuaded by the professor to play something. She appeared to be quite embarrassed and practically ran out if the room after playing several bars of what everyone knows is a quite difficult piece. Charles bowed twice on a cello.
I read that when Charles and Diana signed their divorce papers, they sat together and cried. Neither meant their marriage to turn out the way it did. They were not a good match. Both knew before the wedding they were making a mistake but according to all things Royal, it had all gone to far to back out. When Diana told one of her sisters she didn’t want to go through with the marriage her sister told her it was to late, her name was already on the tea towels. Charles had the same reluctance and cried the night before the wedding, on whose shoulder, I’m not sure but could take a guess. The entire Royal set up at that time was so out dated, still is in many ways. Charles loved Camilla but couldn’t marry her because she had ‘been around.’ Diana called Charles SIR and didn’t know him at all before the wedding. I have total respect for all Diana stood for and all she accomplished in her short life. She was a compassionate woman not afraid to show that compassion wherever she went. There was something very appealing, very special about her. She was a good person.
There was precedent. Edward abdicated when he was in a similar position. But Charles was so desperate to be king he refused. I have little, if any, sympathy for him.
I remember during the wedding broadcast commentary that she first dated his brother, Andrew. There was some talk that the jilted Andrew might pull a prank with Charles' honeymoon suitcase.
Initially Diana was truly in love with Charles. She probably knew it wasn't the right thing but wouldn't concede for appearances sake. Eventually she felt deceived and used.
Dr. Grande, I sincerely appreciate your hard work in presenting balanced analysis. This is a story that I, along with many other young women Diana's age, followed avidly. Twenty-five years after her death, we now know alot more about that story. There is a great deal to it. On their wedding day, everyone in intimate royal circles knew that this was no love match, knew that problems were already evident, and knew that Charles was in love with someone else, while Diana was besotted with something that was not real. And while neither Diana nor Charles could in any way be considered blameless in what unfolded, I find your summation to be essentially what it all boils down to: two people who were in an impossible position. They continued to perform together for years after the marriage was long over and both were engaging in multiple affairs. Both were responsible for petty stunts and behaviors. Both wanted to serve. We also know now that Diana, a master manipulator, was herself badly manipulated. It's a very sad story, and the price of it is evident in the behavior of Harry, a very mixed up and damaged man.
I remember all the excitement of that wedding; yes I got up at 4:30am in order to watch live! That was many years ago. Thanks for giving us more insight into Diana.if she had a more calm and somewhat ordinary life, it may well have been different for her. Sad.
💐Oh how I waited for this video... I admired Diana's good deeds... Sad life married to a prince but her life was no fairytale However what a beautiful heart she had. 💐
Another excellent & interesting study of a famous personality. Stress due to the situation in her marriage, seems to have caused her impulsive personality traits to intensify to an unstable level. When she removed herself from the marriage, her emotional health seemed to improve signifanticaly. The circumstances of her death were sad & tragic, to say the very least.
Yeah, was tragic how the Royal family knocked her off. The mystery Fiat Uno that could outrun a S500 Merc - we used to own one A447MAR and the only way you could hit 60mph in less than 20 seconds was to tie a JATO pack to the roof - not to mention it had the all the body rigidity of a cereal box with delusions of grandeur... And the only way you'd get one to do over the tonne was to drop it off the side of Big Ben. She was an inconvenience that was deinconvenienced - and they probably would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for that pesky old bat and the flag lowering argument.
Thank you for this objective discourse. Like friends with a narcissistic relationship, it seems that borderline symptoms can be situational, not always a personality disorder.
"Unearned glory creates a lie that is difficult to live" is possibly the most brilliant articulation I've heard from Dr. Grande. I would love to make a connection between this idea and that of the "false self" in order to better understand that challenging concept. In particular, I'm wondering if a false self can develop during later adolescence, or only in early childhood.
Excellent analysis Dr. Grande. As a young woman who was the same age as Diana, I was thrilled by and for her. I failed to see how anyone could not love her. As the years have gone on, I found her many dramas to be tiresome and irritating especially when I heard that she had thrown herself down a flight of stairs while pregnant with William. I am glad that you have given a very balanced analysis of her personality. I really cannot stand Megan Markle. With all of the available information on Diana, she should have known what she was marrying into. Yes, the monarchy of any country is a strange thing. Your succinct analysis of monarchy itself was spot on too.
@E Aboudara I don't know about bringing her own death upon herself,it could have been an accident caused by the driver trying to flee the paparazzy and one cannot blame Diana for that, as they willl chase anyone who is famous to get a story, it is their job after all,Diana was known to fight for the "underdog" she also was against war and she fought against landmines that continue killing innocent people even after a war has eneded, people loved her and were taking notice of her, this must have been a threat to those who make a fortune selling arms, they are warmonger because they make their money as long as there are wars and so anyone who would influence the public about the destruction war causes in this word would be a threat to them and that person would need to be eliminated.This is not a conspiracy theory on my part,it is quite possible in this corrupt and greedy world.For all her faults Diana was a true humanitarian unlike that fraud called Meghan markle.
@E Aboudara well... she wasn't driving the vehicle she was in. so unless we knew for a fact that she was goading the driver into driving faster, or pressuring him into drinking (do we know those things? i know generally what happened but not granular details) But unless she played an active role in any of the behaviors of the driver of her car, or the drivers of cars following them, the best we can say is she put herself in dicey situations. But she did not cause her own death.
yvette vernet yvette vernet imagine a complete stranger saying ... “that fraud Yvette Vernet (or whatever your real name is). One of the worst things about the great internet is the keyboard bullies. Yes, what you just did there is bullying. ... internet comment section: a vicious and unforgiving environment.
@@goosesmommy6626 Everyone has seen how Meghan markle has been behaving since she met Harry,how she has isolated him from his family and how she has rejected her own family except her mother,if you did not see it then you are wilfully blind,I grew up with a narcissistic mother who was very much like Meghan Markle in many ways and I would also call her a fraud,as she also was very good as coming across as "the victim" you are entitled to your opinion and I am entitled to mine,I certainly am not a bully for voicing that opinion.
@@yvettevernet4759 markle I think initially really believed SHE was going to modernize the monarchy fast. She as I believe a narcissist would not think about Diana's experience except to have contempt at her failure. When Markle realized the Queen wasn't going to move the world for her, that the royal life was dull, having a baby didnt change the routines and responsibilities, so plan B was to drag Harry out, and make money off the royal brand, but the wise Queen has kept on top of it. I feel bad for Harry who reminds me of Diana in personality.
In all the sorrow of the story of the Princess of Wales I've always remembered one somewhat comical situation. The Princess had been seen going to a man's apartment and people were thinking they were having an affair. To use the words of someone, maybe a journalist, who talked about this on TV, Diana was "a demon bridge player" and was just going to a friend's place to play cards!
Great video Dr. Grande! So tragic when she passed-on. Remember my Mom being glued to the TV during all the coverage following the crash...Really love all your case study videos. Have you ever done one on the actress Brittany Murphy??? Her passing was mysterious and unexpected, with many suspected contributing factors when it hapened, I remember as well. As Always - Thank You for all the great content & information Dr. Grande!
Great content Dr Grande. The day af Diana's death is forever etched in my mind as I was attending a christening that day. I think Diana wanted what most girls dream of.... the prince in shining armor on the white horse scooping her her up to a happy ever after. This simply is not true. Unfortunately, there were politics involved. She became self depreciating until finding the strength to break free. I think she had a good heart and soul. She went out of her way to help those less fortunate. Her sons although royal display a humane part of their role. The most valuable part of being a mother is showing your vulnerable side and setting a good example for your children, which I believed she did.
Another interesting and thought- provoking video! It was evident the sense of powerlessness that Diana and Charles felt in the months leading up to their marriage. As you mentioned, Charles viewed their relationship as a "business arrangement" and his heart was with another woman and she learned he didn't love her during the infamous engagement interview (the whatever "in love" means line) and felt her marriage was the worst day of her life. Yet, they married and had children remaining together until the marriage was irretrievably broken. Sadly, neither of them acknowledged the choices they had nor took responsibility for their own lives. Although seemingly difficult and fraught with complications, the option to not proceed with the marriage was always available to them. Freedom was only a choice away. Anyway, their story highlighted the importance of staying true to oneself and the consequences of giving away one's power. Thanks for another great analysis!
Royalty is the actual queen, king, princes and princesses, etc. Nobility is, I think, the aristocracy - - Diana on her own, before marrying Charles, was a Lady. Her father became an earl. These titles were invented in order to organize society.
@@sandrianah : Lizards? C'mon please tell me you're joking. the RF are closer to being commoners than any of the "royals" in the past 1000 years. In order to find non-catholics to take the throne after Queen Anne died with no living heirs, parliament had to bypass over 50 other candidates until they found protestant, Electorate Georg in a podunk little fiefdom in Germany. He & his family were basically hicks. They're NOT all that special. And certainly not reptiles. They're APES....like the rest of us. :)
@@bluecollarlit I'd say those titles were invented to allow the elite to remain the elite. It wasn't about society because there was no society. The elite could kill commoners at will until a few hundred years ago. The elite and the church had everything, the people had nothing. And that's how they wanted it to stay. We still have the House of Lords ffs, it's utterly ridiculous. I have nothing against Queenie as a person, she seems a nice enough old bird. But the whole concept is insanity in this day and age. They are not special, nobody is born special. Humans are humans.
Thank you for an astute and fair analysis and commentary. Your analogy with a person thrust into a chemistry lab without the expertise to navigate that world is fascinating and productive - the response to that change is what is telling, character and personality wise.
I forgot that I was her age. She squeezed a lot of life in those years. I didn’t know that people who didn’t do well in school could lead such a high status life. People often say what she should have known by a certain age. I can recall whether I actually knew those things. By 19, I didn’t know anything about affairs or creating a family. I didn’t know about weddings and babies. Her whole life went by so fast. I was watching tv when I heard she had been in a car crash. I remember thinking it must be serious if the news is still on. Maybe she died, I thought. Maybe she was already dead. I stayed up to watch her funeral procession. Years later, I went on vacation and sat near a British man. He saw I had a book on Diana’s life. He talked to me about how he wasn’t a royalist and had never told anyone he was sad about her death. He cried as he was telling me about how his sports boat racing team was denied a moment of silence in her honor. That was the only conversation we had.
Thanks, Dr. Grande, this was really excellent! It's hard to believe that people under 23-years-old have no idea who Princess Diana is/was, when she was all we ever heard about for decades. The Netflix documentary, "Diana: In Her Own Words", makes me think you should also analyze Prince Charles for us. Please do!
Diana has always been a big role model for me. When I was younger it was because she was so generous and charitable (One of my favorite quotes from her is “I lead by the heart not the head”). But as I got older and struggled with my own mental health and learned she did as well, I related to her in a different way. She did have her flaws, but the fact that even under her tremendous stress and own personal struggles, she was able to to reach out to others and use her high profile to help good causes. I think that’s something we can all learn from.
Spot on analysis, where everything is taken into account. And yes, there doesn´t have to be a villian. Rather human beings but in an impossible situation. I think the same is happening with the brothers today, William and Harry. The structure of royalty and disfunctional family is a situation they have been thrown in. It would be too much for everyone.
As usual, Doc G gives you things to think about in your own life. His last thoughts about love and how we perceive it isn't always how it really is. Thanks Dr. Grande, for helping me see the other side of things👍🏼💯😊
I have AvPD and have shown symptoms basically as long as I can remember. But something interesting I noticed while doing some attachment theory reflection recently, is that I had a very impactful relationship with a narcissist when I was a teenager that basically made me Express as though I was borderline. He would gaslight me, cheated, lied constantly, and would often humiliate me. During my relationship with that guy, I think I could have met every single criteria for BPD. We were so hot and cold, breaking up over everything and then getting back together, I was extremely paranoid, I would act out and hurt myself, do anything to avoid being abandoned - including trying to change myself to try to be the "ideal" image of a woman. But after I left that relationship (and my subconcious shifted from anxious to disorganized attachment style) I havent had symptoms like BPD again, only my depression & AvPD. 🤔
I could be wrong about this but i dont think its possible to just suddenly have AVPD as personality disorders develop early on through adolescence and manifest themselves throughout adult life.
@@Aura-py8qc "I have AvPD and have shown symptoms as long as I can remember." Literally since childhood. I still had AvPD symptoms through that relationship, but met every symptom criteria for BPD as well.
Is AvPD avoidant personality disorder? I suspect someone I love has it. She is extremely introverted and will literally go months without seeing me, despite telling me she loves being with me and only living 20 minutes away. She also often says she plans to see me more, but it never happens. So she considers us best friends, but it seems strange that she calls me her best friend when I see her maybe 5-6 times a year. My sister otoh sees her best friend at least once a week. I have offered to pick her up anytime, but she always refuses that and only wants to come to my house. If I want to see her it has to be planned weeks in advance. She doesn't trust people at all, and I am her only friend. She has bought me lovely pictures about best friends etc., and says I am a great friend. Her avoidant behaviours really kicked off when she stopped working seven years ago. Do these sound like the behaviours of someone with AvPD?
I had six attending my first time around, and over a hundred the second time, and most of them were complete strangers, and I felt more at home the second time.
WOW Dr. Grande, I’ve been a subbie for a while now and I always love your videos. I am Norwegian, so I am at least six hours ahead of you in time, and nine hours ahead if you live on the westcoast like LA. And I have severe cause of insomnia, so I always jump for joy everytime you post a video in the middle of the night right before I am about to scream into my pillow cos I’m extremely frustrated due to not being able to fall or stay asleep. (I’ve been like this since day 1 when I was born,and I get these seisures where my brain shuts off and no one can make contact with me, they last from 1/2 sec up to ten minutes and occured the first time when I was 2,5 weeks old (I AM NOT JOKING, my Mamma (Mommy) told me AND I’ve read the medical journal from when I was a child 0-17 yrs old, at 18 u r an adult according to Norwegian law so ur a minor and child until ur 18th B’day. And I was admitted to hospital the 1st time at two weeks old due to the fact that I hadn’t slept yet since I was born, and they gave me Diazepam from 1,5 yrs old (Vival 5 mg) and I still take Diazepam (10 mg) + Nitrazepam (10 mg) and have been on this «mix» for 15 yrs now on and off (everytime I am off; I get A LOT of hallusinations both hear and sight and touch, and I get these extreme panic attacks who goes on for weeks and I literally look like a ghost only two days after going off the benzo’s. I REALLY LOVED your interpretation of Diana and I am really impressed by your objective abilities of the stories you share with us. I have to ask: you are a PhD dr right? Not an actual psychiatrist or any doctor who can write prescription drugs or am I completely off here now? I feel like you’re a very good PhD dr in your field of expertise and you definitely strike me as a psychologist with a speciality degree in mental health care and I also do feel like you would be the perfect forensic advisor to the court when it comes to whether a person/prisoner should be released or not, and you’d also be perfect for deciding if a person, child or adult should be in prison or the psychiatric hospital after committing a crime. Dr. Grande, I am a HUGE fan of you and your videos and I love it every time you post a new video. And I did not mean any offense by saying that I feel you’re a PhD dr and not a psychiatrist dr. Please please please don’t be mad at me for saying what I said. If you were offended I will delete it immediately I promise you that because I have too much respect for you and your work to offend you in any way but I just really wanted to say that you’re an awesome PhD dr and the best mental health TH-camr in the world 🌍 and I want you to know that whenever I am sad and feel like my life is over, I watch your video of the ransom note 📝 in the JonBenét Ramsay case and like I commented then, I have to pause the video when you say I am surprised it didn’t say remember to brush your teeth and talk about customer service for the kidnapping and how you would rate it etc 😂😂😂 Anyway Dr. Grande you’re so incredible and amazing at what you do and I wish you could speculate on what you’re opinion about what I might be mentally and if ADHD and insomnia is the only thing that is wrong with me because I used to have like a whole page of diagnoses that of course is bs and they forced me to take a little glass filled with pills 💊 three times a day every day for several years when I was only a kid and as a very young adult too. Today I am “only” taking Ritalin, Diazepam, Nitrazepam, Subutex (Buprenorphine 24 mg), morphine 10 mg three times a day and the Ritalin is 120 mg per day so eh, is that a lot? I have extremely severe chronic pain and ADHD and insomnia and panic attacks if I am not taking the benzodiazepines. Omg 😳 I am so very sorry for throwing this to you but I am really curious about what you would say about me and my case and thank goodness for the free health care in my country. Btw FYI I am not an addict I don’t even smoke or drink at all I am completely absent from any drugs or alcohol or anything like that and I don’t smoke either yuck 🤢. Anyway if you read all this I have even more respect for you and I am really impressed by your patience. You rule ❤️ 😘 Love from across the Atlantic Ocean 🌊 way up north west in Europe in a small but the wealthiest country in the world 🌍 ❤️💙🇳🇴💙❤️💖👱🏻♀️💖
There´s only 1 person in this world that can bring me to listen to a video on Princess Diana, because I can be sure that your thoughts and interpretations are well balanced, Dr. Grande. Especially your last chapter in this has some things to think deeply about.
Thank you so much for these fascinating insights. I now do not feel quite so dismissive of Diana's character as I once did. I had, until now, thought of her only as a manipulative, mischievous clothes horse, without giving a thought to what drove her erratic behaviour. Her love and compassion for her children and for the sick and vulnerable were undeniably genuine.
The Spencers were of a higher class than the German Windsors so he was not marry anyone beneath him - just far too young and inexperienced for the older experienced Charles. He had to settle down and bride had to be pure.
@@1928gerry The Spencers, being nobility, are *not* of higher class than the Windsors, who are royalty. Perhaps you're thinking of elegance, but the highest possible class is royalty and nobles are very definitely below royalty.
I heard Diana say in an interview she and her brother hated her stepmother. She admitted in the interview while mad at her stepmother she pushed her stepmother down the stairs. She also said they did naughty things to their nanny’s such as putting pins in the chairs they sat in. Stealing their nanny’s clothes and throwing them on the roof of the house. She also said in her teens she had this feeling she was destined for greater things. She grew up in a castle herself on one of the queen’s estates. When her mother and father divorced she was unaware her mother tried to get custody. Her mothers mother testified against her in court so the father got custody. Her father was an Earl. Diana had a privileged life as a child. She was not the commoner the papers reported at the time. She also knew the queens children and they played together as children. Her sister dated Prince Charles.
I read every book on her I could find. Since Dr. Grande is diagnosing her without meeting her I’ll do the same. IMO she was borderline. According to bodyguards and servants she also often ignored the boys until she needed them for photo ops. She was a year older than I am so I followed her life.
I think this could be that she is borderline, but I also think she is something they call communal/humanitarian narcissist, doing this humanitarian work was a source of her narcissistic supply, else she would be an empty hole. Also, I do not think she was a fit mother, simply because a mother so fragmented and a mental wreck as she was, cannot be a good mother.
Brings to mind the lyrics of a Katie Melua song: ‘I was never crazy on my own And now I know that there's a link between the two Being close to craziness and being close to you’
I was at a royal garden party in 1987 when Diana came along the roped-off area, stopped just in front of me and talked very intensely to an elderly couple. Just in front of me was a woman with a very large hat, but the hat-wearer was all that was between myself and Diana! I was always interested in the Princess of Wales. We were the same age. I was very curious as to what was being discussed so seriously and at such length, so I jumped up and down for a better view. Imagine my surprise when Diana looked up and gave me a very withering stare instead of the smile I was expecting. I felt as if I had really misbehaved and treated her like a zoo animal! But I did get the hint that privately she might not be the same person she presented to the public.
She could be very cutting in private, and often made terrible comments about the people she had met. When in Aust, the staff in a hotel where she and Charles stayed were devastated by how rude she was and how terribly she spoke to Charles in front of them. He was apparently very patient and kind to her, but her moods were terrible. She talked about suffering, but he really did. He did really care for her.
@Don’t come for me unless I send for you 🤷 Spot on! Still, the lady WAS unhappy,, this has a devastating effect on someone which affects the people around them.
@@tonihazle2034 Diana was always unhappy if she wasn't the centre of attention. James Hewitt said that Diana could not be filled up with love and that no amount of attention was ever enough for her. He spoke of her extreme emotional neediness and impossible demands for attention. Other men found the same. She was even frustrated at the amount of time Haznat Khan used to spend in Surgery. Staff at the hospital spoke about how Diana used to phone up to 6 times in a row using different names to get him to the phone when he was in Surgery. Can you believe that? Where was her concern for Haznat's patients! She even phoned Paul Burrell from Dodi's yacht complaining that Dodi spent too much time in the bathroom and wasn't giving her enough attention! Charles tried very hard in the beginning to please Diana but there is no way he could have given her the amount of attention she demanded. No man could!
Very comprehensive and well articulated. Trait dependent analysis is strong and moderate tone consistent with professional credentials. Totally empathetic.
I felt bad for Diana and how sad her life with Charles was. The why and how behind love is hard to understand and doesn't make sense at the best of times! Thanks for churning out the endless array of cool videos.👌 Love you, Doc!❤
When I got married in 1982, I wore a Princess Di wedding dress knock off that I got from JCPenney for $325 lol 😂. Gosh I loved her. Edit: Lol I even copied her bouquet 😆
I have just watched this for the second time. It is a lot to take in but I think it was both interesting and compassionate and extremely well explained.
I'm late viewing this video. I absolutely adored Diana---flaws and all. She was so humble and relatable. She worked as a nanny and the family she nannied for had no idea that she was from aristocracy until they found something from her bank that fell from her purse and saw the name "Lady Diana Spencer". How many people would be as humble as she? Not many, particularly nowadays. Humility seems to be a rare trait. I don't agree with the BPD diagnosis. It does seem to be comorbid with eating disorders but I do not believe it fit for Diana. She had very sad circumstances in her life (e.g. parents' divorce, a sham of a marriage to a man who never loved her and criticized her, etc.). Her eating disorder was likely her way of gaining some control in her life. Seems much of her depression could have been situational depression/adjustment disorder. Who wouldn't be depressed if they had the same circumstances as Diana?! I know I would be. Let's face it, Diana was a mere adolescent when she married Prince Charles. I think she did the best she could with what she had. I think we would have likely seen a very different, more confident, and an even more dynamic person if she would have lived to see her 40s. (and beyond). Thank you for reviewing her ♥
She was getting her life together she would have been great because she was becoming her own woman and looking her best. As the song says looking for love in all the wrong faces
@@deborahmcgee7970 She might have been looking her best but she was still playing reckless games with other peoples emotions. She tipped the paps off when she was on the yacht with Dodi to take the kiss photo to make Haznat Kahn jealous. I believe had she lived Diana would have had a few more marriages and acrimonious divorces with Diana always blaming the hapless husband. I have no doubt that she would have been involved in more scandals. I think she would have become some sort of Society Hostess in New York raising money for Charities hosting Dinners at $100,000 a plate.
@@margaretmcgill526 If you noticed that when Meghan married Harry the US kept saying that America finally had a princess, and this Canadian just rolled her eyes thinking no you don't.
@@sharhenley I think the Canadian mention was because Canada is in the Commonwealth Realm, and this the Queen is their monarch, not anything to do with Meghan.
What blew me away in a recent biography was that the surgeon she was dating and almost living with..staying over in his hopsital apt, cooking for him and him staying with her at the palace...overnight sleepovers. He was a Pakistani Muslim and she planned to marry him! She flew to Pakistan to meet his family! She told him she was eager to MOVE to Pakistan! That really shocked me..was she jumping from the frying pan to the fire ...was she willing to lead a highly cosseted life as a Muslim wife in a very conservative country? That whole idea was an even WORSE recipe for disaster, cloistered life than being in the Royal Family. It was theorized when he broke it off she made hundreds of phone to him dozens a day harassing him...also that Doddi Fayed and thebphtos on thebuacht etc were designed to win the surgeon back...to male him jealous...if so highly manipulative.
@@latinaalma1947 was this So called loving mother about to move to Pakistan and leave her children in England . Diana always put men before her children .???
Thank you, Dr. Grande, for this thoughtful and informative look at Princess Diana. I watched the National Geographic documentary Diana: In her own words. A film in which Princess Diana is seen in her secret meetings with author Andrew Morton who recorded his interviews with her to write her biography, which was actually an autobiography as it turns out. After watching this on Netflix, I found Diana to be quite a character and very likable. She described her older sister’s behavior when Charles was around as, “she was on him like a bad rash”. She was quite funny and very open and honest with Morton. She had an innocent quality almost like that of a child. I found her delightful in this documentary. As for the current members of the royal family, Dr. Grande is very kind and generous in his comments that they are perhaps uncomfortable with the situation of being in a position of unearned glory. I, myself, have observed most members to have adapted remarkably well to their HRH status. Too well, in fact. I dare say that they believe they are superior and don’t question that superiority whatsoever. I don’t think they feel it’s necessary to earn glory when the are glory by blood, in fact, earning it would be beneath them. The only self-made millionaire in the lot is Meghan Markle, who wisely only lived in the royal house of horrors long enough to to get a taste and get out.
I love your point where all people have both good and bad traits, it's so true and it's so worth trying to remember it when we want to be harsh about someone else. I admit, I felt both ways about Princess Diana, but I was happy that you say you feel that her legacy is mostly a positive one for which I believe to be true. I will say this, the Netflix series, The Crown, sure takes a very sour portrayal of Charles, and Camilla too. But it was a little shocking to me and I don't know why. I feel like the series portrayal of an eating disorder was presented well, as I felt compassionate toward her. And I do remember when she began to publicly acknowledge those troubles because I felt that so many people really admired her that maybe it would help other young, (mostly women), people suffering with eating disorders. Thank You.
I woke up at 3am to watch Diana get married when I was 11...and woke up at 3am to watch her funeral...I always loved her, she wasn’t a perfect person, but doesn’t mean I didn’t love her and look up to her strength (at least publicly) in the face of adversity, and her always seeming to help others. That is what she always meant to me, someone who loved and cared for others, especially those in the lowest difficulties. I feel for her, maybe because I just grew up with her. I know she had a lot of problems, but, she also brought a lot of happiness, caring and joy to people all over the world. Thank you for your analysis, Dr. Grande. As always, a fair and conscientious analysis.
Well said. Thank-you, my exact thoughts.
I remember getting up at 5 to watch her wedding before hurrying off to work, and what I was doing the night her death was announced on tv. She really was an exceptional person and taken from us way too soon.
Lelleith Murray I was visiting home for Labor Day Weekend, and had just been out to dinner with the family. Came home, turned on the TV, and there was breaking news that she was in a car crash...I really thought she would be ok...It wasn’t possible for her not to be. Sat there glued to the TV most of the night, around 2 to 3am my time, it was announced that she had died. I was devastated. I had just started grad school the week before...that funeral is grilled into my brain....the flowers with the card that said “Mummy” on them...Elton John singing...all of the flowers. Yet another person taken too young, too soon.
I was thinking the same thing. My high school graduation in 1981 fell a month before her wedding and I recall the wedding was the highlight of the summer everywhere on all news networks. In fact, a popular soap opera, Young and the Restless (Y&R) worked it into one of their storylines from the late spring into summer. The next year, I was riveted on the radio during one of my summer jobs, waiting for the announcement of little Prince William's birth. Fast forward to 1997, the world would mourn a beautiful but long suffering soul.
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Being in a floundering marriage is terrible. Having to pretend like everything is fine is ten times worse.
That was the problem for Diana. She was too honest and open. She could no longer pretend and in the end she just said, 'fuck it'! Sad as she was getting her life back together even though she feared reprisal and that came.
@@independentandfree6466 - the saddest thing for me, as it is in any accident, is why didn’t they just wear a seatbelt?
@@sherunswithscissors who says they didn't? the pressTITutes$? who is at the top of the food ChAIN? that feeds the minds, bodies and soul to their subjects?
And then add everything that is required of being a royal... x10 because she was HRH The Princess of Wales. It was like being a royal... on steroids.
@@sherunswithscissors .the royals are told not to wear seatbelts in case they have to escape during a kidnapping attempt. I saw this on another TH-cam video.
Oh, Dr. Grande "If we are going to force people into Chemistry Jobs, we shouldn't complain when they blow things up." Priceless!!!!!!
Yes that was hysterical!!
He is so clever
SO WELL put!!!! lol if only more people could plainly see things this way! 😊
Funny
This is true for many professions. This particular hospital was undergoing budget constraints. The facility was trying to optimize their work pool. There was this instance where a guy that made keys was forced to perform work in a hospital operating room. One day while upgrading oxygen & anesthesia hoses, he mixed up the connections by mistake. Later when the room was in use, the anesthesiologist attempted to give more oxygen but the patient received anesthesia instead. Fortunately the anesthesiologist caught the error before the patient could have been harmed. Unskilled managers are just as dangerous as unskilled workers
For someone who had a sad lonely childhood to fall in love and get married and find more loneliness, that’s reason enough for depression.
And she blame her parents in public media. That was very embarassing moment for an adult like her. When she lost control of anger, she start to blaming others. I'm 28 years old, and i feel same too because I'm very insecure.
And after a failed and loveless marriage, she was starting dating with an another very rich and difficult man, that didn't suit her, like Dodi Al-Fayed, he already had a very bad reputation with women, hitting, fighting, assaulting and abusing them, the best example was his fiancee, he left her even after giving a very expensive engagement ring, when a mutual friend introduced him to Diana
Diana won't be happy with Dodi, he was muslim and didn't care about women feelings only about himself because his traditions and type education, obviously Dodi Al Fayed was even worse than Prince Charles
@@nestorvilla3605 islam teaches people to treat each other with the upmost respect he is obviously not religious because if he was he would know how to treat people right so please do not bring islam into this.
@@rubyroseanne6951 : If you do not know the reality of things, better not speak! you say islam treats others with respect !! ohh yes, where women are third-class beings, they have to cover themselves up, using burqas, they can't go out without their husbands or their father and where others are so respected that they kill them when they say something they don't like, ohh yes too much respect
@@nestorvilla3605 Islam does teach respect for women & girls! Unfortunately, as in all cultures & religions there are those who abuse their power over the fairer sex, as we would say. Women covering themselves is a right. A right to not be displayed like a piece of meat & to not be judged on her looks, & just be treated as “Eye Candy” for the pleasure of men, especially those who have no relation to you & do not love you! Why should a woman have to dress provocatively in tight clothes & her cleavage showing to be valued & accepted in society? Why is she only valued if she is attractive? That is the real repression!! Not being looked at for your mind & treated like a intelligent human being with thoughts & ideas that are respected in their own right. Also, women don’t have to work, but if they do, their money is their own, to do with what they want. They can save it, spend it, loan it, invest it, give it, etc. to whomever, or on whatever, they choose. Women of other faiths are expected to help pay the household expenses, pay for food, car payments, medical expenses, etc. Muslim women are allowed to stay home with their children. Their main focus is to care for their children, organize & keep their home running smoothly. Men’s jobs are to be the breadwinners & protectors of their families. Women have the right to be educated as well. Women in Islam don’t have to take their husbands surname either. It is her choice. Some do, but most do not, unless they hyphenate their surname with their husbands surname to combine the two. She has a right to be known, from what family she comes from. Most women in other religions take the husbands name & are viewed as his marital property after marriage. I’m not saying that there are not abuses that occur within Muslim families, but these abuses happen just as much in non-Muslim families as well. Domestic violence & other types of emotional, physical, & verbal abuses are just as rampant in other cultures & religions too. This is not exclusive to Muslims. My point is, that many people believe whatever the media tells them, even if it’s not accurate. People should investigate for themselves. There are billions of Muslims in many, many countries. They are not all bad. The majority are good. It is actually the fastest growing religion in the world now. Please educate yourself before disparaging another person’s beliefs. You would not want someone to do that to you! It does not facilitate greater understanding & better human relationships when people make incorrect assumptions & then spread it as if it were factual. I invite you to learn more at your local Islamic Center, or online. There are many websites, TH-cam videos, & other resources, that would be happy to give you a free English copy of the translation of The Holy Quran & other books that explain Islam more in depth. They would be happy to answer any questions that you may have. I bid you, Peace!!🙏
You hit the nail on the head. It’s always puzzled me why some people are set in casting Diana as either a perfect being or a villain. She was flawed like the rest of us. The same goes for Charles he wasn’t an innocent victim or this monster that some try to make him out to be.
Perfectly said.
Please do a search on TH-cam for a film titled: “Unlawful Killing”. This film is a few minutes short of two hours. This film is also banned in The UK.
Just an adulterer
I question Charles as his good friend was Jimmy Saville, a prolific rapist of children and the sick children in a hospital he had the run of. Diana did not like him, even with this information, that was not known by the public yet.
Over the years, I think Diana has been put on a pedestal - and that is a great understatement! - to the point where she can do no wrong. I appreciate it whenever anyone points out that she was a fallible human neing albeit with many admirable traits.
I feel that Dr. Grande's analysis was very fair, especially in saying that neither Charles nor Diana had to be "The Villan", and that people are both good and bad. Their story just makes me sad, especially that her sons lost her so early.
Exactly right. Nobody is at fault here and neither are they angelic. Both are certainly human beings.
So many people seem to forget the fact that Diana was only 19, that should speak volumes regarding the self serving behaviour of the Royals; poor young girl, so badly used by such cunning adults....I live in Britain, hope Charles never gets the crown. People who use children for their own selfish ends deserve no rewards.
@@olasmith8132 She was not a child, she was 19 and a young adult. She had her flaws as well, was quite unstable and also slept with other people's husbands. What was done to her was wrong but she certainly was no angel either.
@@olasmith8132 Diana wanted to marry the PoW for years and did things to make that happen. She wasn't tricked into it. 19 is young but she lived in a world of aristocracy and was well aware of what was going on. Her age and privilege may have convinced her though that once she had him she would change him.
Marriage/relationship with a Narc is always transactional.
I worked in the mental health field for 37 years. I remember when I sawher in person t.v. interview how " borderline " came across strongly. I also agree that the stress on such a young innocent person would have impacted her greatly. His commentary waswell done.
She was not that innocent. In the famous interview, she describe he hatred against her step-mother and how she pushed her from the stairs :-/
When Diana died, I was a teenager and believe in the story of poo, innocent victim of evil husband. Now I think that Charles and Diana were just two unhealthy people, raised in loveless, toxic families, with Diana being BPD and Charles being possibly a narcissist. They were each other's nemesis. It simply couldn't work.
She was BPD and had been since childhood
I think BPD is seen as something really bad and ashaming. I confirmed I'm BPD this week. Knowing Diana was too changes the way I feel about it ❤
I really believe that their marriage was doomed from the start. Charles had aways wanted Camilla but because she wasn't deemed suitable he had to find himself another woman to marry. Diana was ideal because she was young, beautiful, wealthy and a virgin which was so important at the time. I mean to think how young she was, 19 when she got engaged and 20 when they married. She really didn't know what she was getting herself into, the pressures of the royal family and a husband who was always infatuated with another woman.
Just proves being rich is a curse.
This all could have been avoided if he had married Camilla.
The interference from the Press did not help the marriage. First came the publication of a scandalous biography of Diana -- in which she is thought to have cooperated -- depicting Charles as an unfeeling cad who had driven his lovely young wife to attempt suicide. Then came the release of taped phone conversation in which a male admirer breathed heavily into Diana's ear and called her "Squidgy." Weeks later came another tape in which Charles and an old flame, Camilla Parker-Bowles, passionately professed their love for each other, reportedly discussing their "private parts."
Wow that sounds like it'd make a great romance drama movie plot
@@joanlynch5271 which he's married to now...after her death.
The guy, Charles has guts. His poor sons...to see the woman your dad actually loved and it's not your mother. So sad!
She was one of the first people, that I know of, to go boldly into a hospital treating AIDS patients. She sat down and held hands with these people who were dying, in an era when people still believed that touching someone with AIDS was contagious. It was a remarkable moment. She had guts
I read, Princess Margaret had done it minus the fuss.
Wow fuck me. Let’s canonize her. St Diana of Narcissism
She seemed like a really good person but her story is tragic.
@@lauralutz4538 Correct
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That’s what made the world love her
Being In a loveless marriage can cause so much pain. This stress is hard to manage alone . It can make you physically sick . I fully understand Diana. Such a beautiful person. May she Rest In Peace!
Wasn't Charles in a loveless marriage too then?
After a horrible father she was at the mercy of Elizabeth and Philip
She could have had the upper hand if she hadn't had affairs. No good can come of a marriage where the man is not in love with the woman. Recipe for disaster
@@Seek1878absolutely
‘If you put someone in the position of a chemist, Don’t be surprised when they blow the place up.’
Great analogy Dr. Grande!!
Applies better to Dr Grande himself.
Being in a loveless marriage is loneliness on steroids. Ask anyone who’s been through it.
I've been there and know what it's like. My kids tell me I've BPD but they don't know what I've been thru and they don't care bcz they hv their own lives. I feel for Diana. I was her age when she got married. I stayed up 48 hours straight to watch the rerun of the fairy tale wedding. Didn't like charles from the beginning. She was this gorgeous young lady that wowed the world. She will always be remembered despite her flaws. She was Peoples Princess! I loved her and still love her. Forever in our hearts. Forever remembered! 😔😟😢😭
a stockbroker in the office where I worked brought in a tiny TV to watch the wedding.
It's a terrible thing to be saying your vows when you don't believe them. I allowed my mother to pressure me into getting married when I was pregnant. The whole time I was saying them (to God) I absolutely didn't intend to spend the rest of my life with the abusive man I married. When I heard Charles say, "whatever love is" in the engagement interview, my heart dropped. It really said it all and Diana knew it. She might have been young, but she had massive emotional intelligence. She said that traumatized here.
@@margaretmcgill526I totally agree with you. I feel so sorry for Diana and for all of us who entered into loveless marriages. Of course that messes us up.
Precisely. Diana was made to feel second best from the start. Camilla should be ashamed of herself but it seems the Brits will allow her to be the Rottweiler Queen. Awful woman. Just leave other women's husbands alone.
Diana herself spoke about her fear of abandonment, which started when her parents divorced and her mother moved away and out of her life (for the most part). People close to Diana have also spoken about Diana’s fear of adandonment and how it was rooted in her mother’s departure from her life.
We all have problems, some of us don’t tell all to folks in general. There is bitching & there is constructive outreach. What Di did was selfish & harmful to her boys & the Monarchy.
That is right, and to have married a man who quite clearly didnt love her and who obviously loved someone else was all that was needed to bring on Bulimia and her depression. Especially when you are in such a public elevated position. Poor lady she didnt stand much of a chance.
Who, outside of herself, could she rely on? Fergie wasn't much help other than for temporary laugh and play. Maybe Charles' betrayal was abandonment; however going out and doing the affair game is never a good response.
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@@mc.8391 SHE WAS NOT REALLY AWARE THAT CHARLIE HAD A MISTRESS UNTIL THE NIGHT BEFORE THE WEDDING. SHE TOLD HER SISTER SHE DID NOT WANT TO GO THROUGH WITH THE WEDDING, HER SISTER DID NOT TRY TO HELP HER, TOLD DIANA ' TOO LATE DUCKIE YOUR FACE IS ON THE TEA TOWEL' SUCH A HORRIBLE SHAME.
My mother (who has borderline personality disorder) worshipped Diana, idolizing her to a very disturbing degree. Because of the abuse I suffered at my mother's hands, I cannot view Diana in a positive light because I see her behaviour through a very different lens. When my parents divorced, my mother launched a vicious and false smear campaign against my father, and many people believed her. Even I believed her, until I grew older and discovered the truth. When I moved out of her house ("abandoning" her) she did the same thing to me. Because of this, I often wonder how accurate the picture of Charles that Diana relayed to the public really is.
Different setting/situation and events but I understand what you went through.
@@Rose-xi2ll Same Dynamic. Diana definately had Borderline Personality Disorder with very powerful Narcissistic traits. IMO
@@Stephanie-zd5imeating disorder
You make sense
I hear you. Diana caused a lot of problems too because of BPD and all that goes with it.
She needed to be loved by a genuine person
They both did.
@phantagirlableagreed
After her separation and divorce she still behaved in a bpd way only it was with many many affairs and man addiction
Another serious, measured, fact-based analysis from Dr. Grande! This is a rarity on TH-cam and the media and society in general, and very refreshing.
My mum talks about Princess Diana as if they were bestfriends
I guess every mom does lol 😂😂😂🥰
My mother also rly admired Princess Diana.
I still remember how my friends and I wanted "Diana haircuts. 💙✌
People are so weird about Diana and the royal family in general. They talk like they know them. It's so strange.
If it makes he happy -good for her!
I think it is possible that Diana had CPTSD from her unstable childhood. It would explain her symptoms without being as disruptive to her life as BPD, and could appear similar to most people. Your discussion of the possibility of her having BPD was very objective and fair. She is something of a tragic figure to many, due to her being taken in the prime of her life. Thanks for the analysis, Dr. Grande. ❤️
C-PTSD can indeed be mistaken for BPD when the mental health clinician isn't extremely careful about taking a thorough history and/or discounts ongoing trauma particularly that in childhood. Whilst C-PTSD affects the sufferer you're right in that it definitely isn't as debilitating as BPD. Most people with C-PTSD find it difficult to trust others but their symptoms are more ones that affect their moods and redirect them back to the original traumatic experiences such as intrusive recall, panic attacks, insomnia, nightmares and, at times, self-injurious behaviours as an attempt to distract from the emotional pain they feel due to the abuse and an unfortunate legacy of feeling shame and detesting the physical body that was often the target of past abusers. It's a pity that Diana ended up in a marriage with a man who not only wasn't someone who loved her but who had no understanding of psychological matters and no empathy and who was dismissive of her emotional pain as being, he assumed, just dramatics designed at garnering attention. She deserved someone who genuinely cared about her and was empathetic.
Sounds about right.
@Captain Brandon Punk & Horror Lover yes. Thanks!
@Captain Brandon Punk & Horror Lover cool. Auckland is crap... see everywhere else. 👌
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Hi, Dr. Grande: Your brief personality analysis of Jackie Kennedy caught my attention, and I watched it with rapt interest. She became First Lady of the U.S. in 1963 when I was 10 years old, and like a lot of people, I was fascinated by her. I still am to this day, as you can see. I believe that part of what contributed to her appeal to most people, was the fact that she was born under the Sun Sign of Leo, and her Rising Sign was Scorpio. People born under either of those signs tend to attract a great deal of attention. In her case, she was influenced by both. She and Diana, Princess of Wales, have been two of the most photographed women in the world.
After watching your personality analysis of Mrs. Kennedy, I went on to watch the following one on the Princess of Wales. My fascination with Diana, Princess of Wales, was the utter beauty of her spirit and her soul. She was also physically quite beautiful and elegant, poised and charming. She could have become quite spoiled and rotten a person if she'd wanted, and yet instead she chose to use her fame to bring attention to humanitarian issues. Having known personal pain, she showed empathy and compassion for the suffering others.
Perhaps those who have some negative view of her, should do some actually reading on her early life, and then try and walk a mile in her shoes. Yes, of course, she had problems. Who doesn't? But all things considered, I think she handled herself extremely well, given all that she had to contend with, including living in a world that enables men when they have extra-marital affairs, as her husband did, but excoriate women when they have affairs, as she was. All I can say is, "Cheers to you, Diana, and I hope you're having a fabulous time in The Heavens! What a beautiful legacy you left, in such a short time on this planet."
Dr. Grande, please pardon my going on. My purpose in writing to you, originally, was to comment on my profound appreciation for your sense of humor, which at times is deadpan, and so "right on the money." And I heartily agree with you, anyone lacking a degree in chemistry will have a difficult time being catapulted into a chemistry lab. Also, I admire your ability to remain neutral, and give a fair and balanced view on a person or a topic. It shows true integrity. Please keep up the good work. It is most appreciated.
The best I've seen about Diana Spencer. Thanks Dr. Grande! Very interesting!
Imagine being 19 and having your virginity discussed on national television not only by broadcasters but also having your uncles and father also confirm that. Yikes
That's awful. That shouldn't be discussed or even mentioned. That status should be kept secret or not even important.
I remember my mom talking about this and wondering if it was real!!
Who cares about virginity, and why? Why is it important for certain people wheater or not some one is a virgin? I meen except from in crime cases
Better than back in the middle ages when they had clergymen examine your sheets the morning after the wedding night. Yikes!
Diana's virginity was supposed to save their marriage. I guess it didn't.
Dr. G! So well phrased! "If we are going to force people into chemistry jobs we cannot complain if they blow things up." I'll be using that statement again in the future. Applies to so many situations. I've always felt that Diana was somewhat of a tragic figure. That being said her altruism was something to be greatly admired. She made a difference in the world and it was interesting she happened to be buried the same day Mother Teresa died. Both wonderful women who left an impression on the world.
@@spiritmatter1553 where did you hear this rumor?
@@funclassylassy4426 I suspect he got it from Christopher Hitchen's book. "The Missionary Position." It's a "tell all" book about all of the "unsaintly" things Mother Teresa did in her life. It's a cruise missile for sure. That being said, when I go over and spend my life in Calcutta living and dealing with the dregs of society and with the poor and disabled day after day then I figure I can criticize her. No one is perfect. Even Mother Teresa.
@@funclassylassy4426 It’s not a rumour. The money was given to her. For the poor & she gave it to the ‘church’. She was a wee bit vile.
Technically, Diana wasn't "forced" into her position.
@@kkheflin3 Whose only motivation for the book would have been his hatred of Christianity, generally and Christians specifically. There will always be cowards who try to tear people down after they die, but are without the courage to do so while the person is still alive.
Let's not forget that she was also very young when she got married, and soon after pregnant. This alone, without the added stress of royalty, media, high expectations, etc. must have contributed to her having a hard time. I admired her for trying to keep a smiley face even though she must have wanted to scream.
I was devastated to hear about her accident. Finally she was free and happy / happier... I'm sad she didn't get to see her boys grow up, she didn't get to meet her daughters in law and her grandkids.
I'm sure she'd have been ecstatic at lady dimglow and lady neighbourhood bike. One has all the personality of a depressed Golem and the other is the only girl who's played with more short throw stick shifts than Stirling bloody Moss.
She was young and totally unprepared for marriage. She did say that when she became pregnant with William that this actually helped her for a time and her and Charles actually became closer. Unfortunately it didn't last. They were just so incredibly uncompatible. I also see Charles as a victim as well. He made it clear when he met Camilla that she was the one and wanted to marry her. She eas not considered marriage material for the royal family, although today this would be different. He was being pressured by his family to get on with it and Diana ticked all the boxes. I think he would have liked more time to get to know her as I think he sensed they may not be suited to each other. He was pressured by the entire family and did it. It was obviously a mistake. Of course he could have been kinder, but I think her depression, bulimia and mood swings were something he wasn't equipped to handle. I have read that he tried to get her help and was always quite concerned about her mental state. It's a shame because if she lived, I am sure they would both be happily married and maybe even friendly as the old wounds healed and became wiser.
That doesn't matter plenty of women were young back then and got married at 17 and 18 years old and 19 years old. The '80s was the last generation they did it. Diana was just immature and mentally unstable. She wasn't innocent victim she had sex with. The '80s was the last generation they did it. Diana was just immature and mentally unstable. She wasn't innocent victim she had intimacy with other men doing the marriage and she went behind her husband's back and tried to expose him and his family to the world and she did do that. She passed away because of her own undoing
I think she would have been very disappointed in one of them ... he hasn’t turned out very well
@@rosiehawtrey Your comment is nothing but a litany of immature, embittered, spiteful insults. What is your problem?
For those genuinely interested in Diana, her history including her mental health there are two books that have proven both accurate and ground breaking: 'Diana In Private' (1992), and, 'The Real Diana (2004)' (with further revealing Afterword; 2013), both are by Lady Colin Campbell, writer and international society figure.
I've read Diana's autobiography, I had tears in my eyes reading some of it because of how lonely and mentally low Diana was throughout her life... Charles often gaslighted her and made her feel "crazy" he also would often tell her "why arent you more like fergie... she has a better personality etc" , she talked about how on edge she was when she had to be around Charles, she tried to stay away from him he spent a lot of time in Scotland at Balmoral and she stayed in London. He never made her feel special or worthy even though she did SO much for other people.
Her mental health was really bad she tried to end her life 5 times, she had bulimia and even her childhood was so unhappy, her father didn't show affection to her and he remarried this horrible woman...
Throughout the book what really shined through was how caring and kind she was, she just wanted to help others and support normal people in deep dark times of their lives, she spent so much time in the ICU of hosptials holding vigils for people and helping their famiies . I love her
I have her autobiography book and I can relate to it in so many ways with the : separated parents, not getting affection, parents arguing.
@Nancy Fox Oh yes. Exactly the same. The apple didn't fall far from the tree!
Another bpd symptom is accusing the nanny tiggy of having an affair with Charles and becoming pregnant .Diana was delusional none of it was true. Another feature is her reckless impulsive promiscuous behaviour. She had one night stands and jumped from Hazmat kaln s bed straight into dodis.. Diana want the fame and admiration and prevleges that came with marrying a prince she was not forced and she new that Charles was still keen on Camilla but married him anyway
While she did a lot of good in her life - however she said when she married Dodi Fyed she would not being doing those various charities works anymore.
“For those who are modest, It must be difficult to be artificially elevated into royalty, to be called special when they know they are not really special. They have to act above being a regular person. It’s like this plastic contrived world where someon’s actual skills and abilities don’t matter. It’s just what family they’re born into or who they married that elevates them. There’s something destructive about being awarded in a manner disproportionate to one’s ability, like an imposter effect, they would feel phony or disingenuous”
HOLY crap. No one can be so eloquent and at the same time so savage as Dr. Grande. You are fantastic, Sir. 👏🏼
Totally, how he can find such a brilhant way to explain how been in a royal family is not as appealing as people think it is.
He is very good, and I'm very happy about this video. I asked him doing a video about "Charles and Diana" or maybe "Camilla, Charles and Diana"...best triangol ever...
We stan our snark king. 😊😊👑🙇♂️🙇♀️🙇🙇
Not everyone is on to the conspiracy side of things... but looking at Diana's bloodline, she was 'chosen" due to that, oh and of course the virgin bride thing went down well too.
A man of intellect and grammar.
It really makes you wonder how many royal “fairytale” weddings were actually happy ones
Fairytales, enough said.
Albert and Victoria, George VI and Elizabeth Bowes Lyon
Probably none
A few but not many!
She was way too young to marry that old man who was already in love with a married woman. Stay out of the love triangle!
IMHO, they needed a younger woman like Lady Di to provide the proverbial "heir & a spare." I think Lady Di loved the idea of being married to Chas., but when reality set in, she realized was set up to fail by just about everyone involved. Camilla ('Ol Horseface) was not acceptable by the old fashioned Royal family due to her romance/marriage record.
She thought that it was her destiny to marry him.
And boy was she naive.....only way anyone could get themselves into that sort of a situation.
@@joanlynch5271 I guess Meghan's destiny is to marry Prince Harry. Same logic.
@E Aboudara I agree. She actually said she had a crush on him as a child, had his picture hanging over her bed. She also stated she knew (at least she thought at the time) they could never divorce. (As if that could make happiness) I think she was too naive, immature and emotionally damaged from her childhood and wanted a protector. I also think Charles wanted a mother figure, someone to dote on him. They both were looking for what they could receive from the marriage emotionally instead of how much they could support each other, have each other's back and build each other up. It was a marriage based on emotional selfishness and doomed for failure. Both sides have to give what the other needs....like the book The Five Love Languages.
Dr. Grande hits this one out of the park. Charles and Diana were just two people navigating their way through life, though a highly visible one. No heroes, no villians just people.
True, and for those who insisted on making either one of them (or both) as villain, just plain hypocrite. None of us is perfect and we don't know what's happened inside their life nor should it be our business to judge them. I like both Charles and Diana, but fully aware of their imperfection. Like most of us, they just trying to make sense of their lives and strive to find happiness. Diana never truly did find her happiness, but thankfully Charles finally did. We should leave both of them in peace. I believe at the end Diana and Charles forgave each other and wish each other well.
Diana grew up in royal circles, she was more aware of the life than she is given credit for.
After all this it's nice to know that something good came from it, two people who love each other were finally united.
I'm self isolating so this is a gift to keep me distracted. I'm sure I'll find more episodes I haven't seen. 👍
You are in for a treat!
Wishing you well, there are great videos from Dr. Grande, check out Marylin's. Was great 💙
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@@tdang9528 why am I self isolating? Because my son is being tested for Covid19 today and while waiting for results we aren't allowed to interact with people (here in Ireland)
The symptoms of living in a narcissist family are the same for everyone. Doesn't matter who you are.
Sooo true
Why r u upside-down
So true! She was only struggling with her abusers obviously.
I feel this in my bones.
Good point
Also the fact around her death suggests there is even more to the story than the public knows
The official investigation into her death came to some interesting conclusions - which were misrepresented/misunderstood/misintepreted by the media afterwards
For example: it was not paparazzi who followed her
information was withheld by different people - untill later where the story was mostly forgotten
During the time the Princess of Wales was still living I had two pen pals in England. One of them, male, said the royal family used Diana as "a brood mare". When the Princess died and there was a huge reaction of grief from the public (a phenomenon worthy of discussion) my other pen pal, female, said something like, "I don't know why I'm crying so much for someone I didn't even know".
It's was mentioned by someone else a long time ago that when the engagement of Charles and Diana there were two photographs of them in the media but taken separately and it happened that Diana and Charles were each holding a book when photographed. Diana was holding a paperback romance by Barbara Cartland who I think was her step-grandmother while Charles was holding a scholarly book on eastern religion. Some people might take their disparate choice of reading material as an indicator that Diana and Charles were not suited to one another.
Interesting... though I know more than one person who has both Barbara Courtland books and books on Eastern Religion on their bookshelves.
She was 19, a kindergarten teacher, and not a royal but aristocrats; I mean not trained compared to Charles.
@@wendyleeconnelly2939 I can believe that. If someone were to see the mix of books I have they might think three people were living in my space or that I was a multiple personality!
Bear in mind she was still a teen when they got engaged. She did read more serious stuff as she got older.
@@sarahpiaggio2693 That's an excellent point! My own reading became more serious over the years and Diana probably had the same experience of moving beyond what interested her at 19.
Diana was bamboozled into a loveless marriage and then subjected to emotional abuse by her husband. That would make anybody neurotic after awhile. What is more, she was trapped. As Princess of Wales Diana couldn't just leave, not with her kids anyway, so she stayed married to a man who had used her for a Royal broodmare and then emotionally abandoned her, for 15 years. She hung in there for her kids. I see Diana, who was torn away from her mother by her wife beater of a father, as a woman who did indeed develop psychological problems as a result of the abuse she was subjected to, first by her father and then by her husband and his family.
The remarkable thing about Princess Diana was how she transcended her troubles. Early on in the marriage she went public with her bulimia because it might help other sufferers. She had had a wretched, motherless childhood, so she made sure her sons had all the mothering and maternal love they needed. She was lonely and isolated in her marriage, and somehow that experience seemed to make her acutely aware of the loneliness in others. Shy as she was, she was not afraid to hug people who needed a hug. Diana took the hands of AIDS patients and people with leprosy. She sat on their beds and laughed and talked with them. Her visits to these most marginalized of people inspired, not just help in the form of donations but real social change, particularly with regard to people with AIDS.
Near the end of her life Diana joined the humanitarian movement against landmines. People who know about landmines have said that Diana's work on banning these horrendous weapons--when she marched through mine fields and talked with traumatized locals--caused crucial action to be taken. Apparently, as many as 300,000 people are very likely alive now who would not be alive, were it not for the effectiveness of Diana's championship of the movement to ban landmines. 300,000 people. That's what I think of when I think of Diana, Princess of Wales. Not whether or not she was a bit nuts. We're all a bit nuts. Not many of us take our trauma and make good come out of it.
If Diana had been older, she may not have married Charles. Surely her sisters could have enlightened her about his relationship with Camilla but she was escaping from an unhappy home and her father was pleased with the match as was the RF, She was embraced by the people and has never fallen from her pedestal.
All pretty normal stuff for marrying into the Royal Family. Princes have always had mistresses.
@@laurastuart3814 I’m not sure what your point is. It clearly wasn’t normal to Princess Diana.
@@laurastuart3814 Not all princes have mistresses. Prince Albert, husband of Queen Victoria did not have a mistress. They were a devoted couple.
@@laurastuart3814 bit over the top Charles was with Camilla soon after William was born she said so in the documentary in her own words this must have destroyed her
This is the most accurate analysis of the late Princess Diana I've heard. Living under a microscope has to be challenging. Bravo, Dr. Grande.
Diana, like most people, was hoping for love and she did not have that with Charles. Knowing in your heart that the man you have given children to is in love with someone else could have caused many of her emotional problems. She was still looking for love when she died. Very sad.
Diana's emotional problems began in childhood. Marrying into the royal family sure didn't help, but she felt worthless the day her mom moved out and left her crying on the steps and her dad would not let her see her mom. Her and her young brother were too young to understand completely why her mom dropped out of their lives for so long. Her sisters were older, although it is interesting to note that second child Sarah was anorexic for a time. Oldest sister Jane seems to have been a lot more stable.
That would be absolutely devastating to me. I look at her and think 'There go I but by the grace of God'.
@@a.nonymous2089 to be fair, she never stated that her parents divorce made her feel worthless. she just said it was an emotionally volatile environment, and an unhappy childhood. traumatic life experiences doesn't equate to impacted self-image. when she reflected on herself, at school, with friends, siblings, working... she was very self -assured. saying that she knew she was meant for something really important and that is why she avoided getting into trouble in her teens. these are all statements of someone with a strong sense of self, very articulate and aware.
Me too
Exactly she was looking for love from her husband but he was not available in the relationship! This whole situation is sad
I had to listen to this again. You know, this poor Lady had everything in the way of wealth and power, but there just seemed to be no love in her life. No wonder she was so unhappy. I have no wealth or power, but I am so blessed to have a wonderful husband and a very happy life.
the ones who survive, like Kate, I think, view the Royal Family as a job. bringing awareness to various charities, etc. Kate seems to really do well with her work.
What work? ...
If I was Kate I'd have walked in the church, walked past the alter and legged it to a Charger 440 6 pack all warmed up and ready and got the hell out in Dodge... Flat out.
Dealing with that family is like breeding crocodile monitors stark bollockless naked..
I think it was very wise of kate and Wills to have such a long courtship.
She couldn't have done more to show love to everyone. I used to think she was maybe acting shy, but then William peered out from under his fringe as a teen, and I realised it had been genuine bless her XxxX
William lost that silly hide behind you fringe eyes up eyes down coy thing as he got older . Diana kept that inteilgant look all her life..
16:58un. Intelligent look
you are one of the most non-judgmental and intellectual people alive!!! awesome analysis, including the chemistry lab metaphor.
0:31 Background
2:58 November 1981, January 1982 - Her condition worsens
4:52 After Divorce
5:05 August 31, 1997, Her Death, Escaping The Paparazzi in Paris France
6:00 OCEAN
8:42 BPD
Escaping the FAKE paparazzi masquerading as the legitmate paparazzi. They were intelligence service agents, executing the assassination of Princess Diana.
@@acb5245do you still burn women as witches too. Diana was distroying her own image, why would the palace want to make a saint of her.
Most interesting. I believe your analysis is spot on. Diana is often either pitched as a princess angel or a crazy self-obsessed narcissist when in fact she is a human being put into a difficult position. She was also quite young when she got married and clearly had no idea what she was getting herself into. Contrast her with the two women Harry and William married and they at least seem to understand what they were getting into.
Catherine did yes but i cant say the same of Markle and she was in her late thirties when she became a Royal where as Diana was only nineteen and very naive...
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She wasn't PUT INTO a difficult situation. She knew about the relationship between Charles and Camilla yet she married anyway. She was naive to think she would win that battle. There are some things she had to take responsibility for. I think she did a lot of living and learning. The fact that she moved on after the divorce shoes that she had done some personal growth. I'm the end, she was cordial to Charles and wished him well and carried on with her life. It made her more confident with the paparazzi and public life.
Diana’s sister had dated King Charles and the family had a relationship with the royal family. She was of aristocratic bloodline and would of been more familiar with the royal family than a commoner would of. She did have a time to back out of the engagement. She had affairs first before King Charles got back together with Queen Camilla.
She didn’t want the marriage to be over, King charles and the other royals didn’t know why Diana was always upset and sad. They thought she would fit into the royal family
@@barbo1106 Where are these divorce shoes, can I buy some please 🙂
@@whitedragoness23 At the time Charles and Diana married Charles was NOT king and Camilla was NOT queen. I don't understand why you use these particular nouns/pronouns for them (not as they were at that time) . Diana dated Prince Charles - reports say she met him only a few, 5 or 6 times before the nuptials. She may have had affairs before Prince Charles resumed having sexual relations with Camilla Parker Bowles.....but he did do that, and had the life altering epiphany to become her tampon.
I loved Diana. I still do. Of course she was flawed and none of us really KNEW her. She was a public figure. No matter what she said or did. No matter what anyone says or does; she had a big, soft heart and used her compassionate nature for good. She and I had children at the same time and it was not lost on me that she had high hopes for a good marriage and her dream failed because her husband was duplicitous. That really hurt me and it really hurt her. Charles obviously planned to have a royal marriage; one woman for wife and mother and another for love. That is his fault, whether Diana was overly emotional or not. There was no point where she agreed to that. So, as always, my heart goes out to her and her sons, who have paid the price for that duplicity.
I disagree that Charles "planned" anything. Like Diana, they both gave it their best shot, but they were just not a good match. Both Charles and Diana were basically good people, but like all of us they had flaws.
I love how objective you are Dr. Grande!!! And I respect you greatly for that. Many people today hate Charles and Camilla, making Diana a martyr which she was not.... life is complicated, to make it far more difficult with an arrange marriage with someone you know doesn’t love you; They ALL should have seen it coming
Well done Dr. Grande!! Excellent, factual, well balanced and unambiguous analysis as always! Loved the chemistry analogy with the royals.
I remember that when William was a baby they made a state visit to Australia for about six weeks. She wanted to take Wills, as they called him, and he told her they never take the baby. She insisted and finally he asked the Queen who told him to let her take the baby; she'd never do it again. And she never did. Charles has perfect pitch and played the cello. It was arranged that he would play for his former teacher who had become the director of the Melbourne Conservatory of Music and all the media was there. Right in the middle of his performance she got bored and went over to the piano and started to play Rachmaninoff. All the media deserted him to watch her. I remember thinking, "They're doomed." And they were.
That's not what happened at all. Fortunately there is a youtube video which shows exactly what did happen. Diana was persuaded by the professor to play something. She appeared to be quite embarrassed and practically ran out if the room after playing several bars of what everyone knows is a quite difficult piece. Charles bowed twice on a cello.
Stop spreading lies without checking facts.😄
@@shema3579 She was asked to bring William by the Australian PM at the time. Proven fact.
Yes, I remember thinking that she tried to show him up. She wasn't a supportive partner.
@@wf4758 He wasn't a supportive partner either.
This is great. Always wondered about her mental health. Given, all the speculations
I've wonder about the mental health of all the Royal Family. They're nuts.
I read that when Charles and Diana signed their divorce papers, they sat together and cried. Neither meant their marriage to turn out the way it did. They were not a good match. Both knew before the wedding they were making a mistake but according to all things Royal, it had all gone to far to back out. When Diana told one of her sisters she didn’t want to go through with the marriage her sister told her it was to late, her name was already on the tea towels. Charles had the same reluctance and cried the night before the wedding, on whose shoulder, I’m not sure but could take a guess. The entire Royal set up at that time was so out dated, still is in many ways. Charles loved Camilla but couldn’t marry her because she had ‘been around.’ Diana called Charles SIR and didn’t know him at all before the wedding. I have total respect for all Diana stood for and all she accomplished in her short life. She was a compassionate woman not afraid to show that compassion wherever she went. There was something very appealing, very special about her. She was a good person.
There was precedent. Edward abdicated when he was in a similar position. But Charles was so desperate to be king he refused. I have little, if any, sympathy for him.
I remember during the wedding broadcast commentary that she first dated his brother, Andrew. There was some talk that the jilted Andrew might pull a prank with Charles' honeymoon suitcase.
@@kinkyscartoons don’t be ugly. It only makes you “ look” bad
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Initially Diana was truly in love with Charles. She probably knew it wasn't the right thing but wouldn't concede for appearances sake. Eventually she felt deceived and used.
Dr. Grande, I sincerely appreciate your hard work in presenting balanced analysis. This is a story that I, along with many other young women Diana's age, followed avidly. Twenty-five years after her death, we now know alot more about that story. There is a great deal to it. On their wedding day, everyone in intimate royal circles knew that this was no love match, knew that problems were already evident, and knew that Charles was in love with someone else, while Diana was besotted with something that was not real. And while neither Diana nor Charles could in any way be considered blameless in what unfolded, I find your summation to be essentially what it all boils down to: two people who were in an impossible position. They continued to perform together for years after the marriage was long over and both were engaging in multiple affairs. Both were responsible for petty stunts and behaviors. Both wanted to serve. We also know now that Diana, a master manipulator, was herself badly manipulated. It's a very sad story, and the price of it is evident in the behavior of Harry, a very mixed up and damaged man.
Thank you for this. Most Americans don’t understand this stuff at all. Hope your utube channel goes from strength to strength!
I remember all the excitement of that wedding; yes I got up at 4:30am in order to watch live! That was many years ago. Thanks for giving us more insight into Diana.if she had a more calm and somewhat ordinary life, it may well have been different for her. Sad.
💐Oh how I waited for this video... I admired Diana's good deeds... Sad life married to a prince but her life was no fairytale However what a beautiful heart she had. 💐
She definitely did many good deeds around the world. She will always be a Princess Worldwide
@@kimsmith819 I agree 💙
Another excellent & interesting study of a famous personality. Stress due to the situation in her marriage, seems to have caused her impulsive personality traits to intensify to an unstable level. When she removed herself from the marriage, her emotional health seemed to improve signifanticaly. The circumstances of her death were sad & tragic, to say the very least.
Yeah, was tragic how the Royal family knocked her off. The mystery Fiat Uno that could outrun a S500 Merc - we used to own one A447MAR and the only way you could hit 60mph in less than 20 seconds was to tie a JATO pack to the roof - not to mention it had the all the body rigidity of a cereal box with delusions of grandeur... And the only way you'd get one to do over the tonne was to drop it off the side of Big Ben.
She was an inconvenience that was deinconvenienced - and they probably would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for that pesky old bat and the flag lowering argument.
Thank you for this objective discourse. Like friends with a narcissistic relationship, it seems that borderline symptoms can be situational, not always a personality disorder.
"Unearned glory creates a lie that is difficult to live" is possibly the most brilliant articulation I've heard from Dr. Grande. I would love to make a connection between this idea and that of the "false self" in order to better understand that challenging concept. In particular, I'm wondering if a false self can develop during later adolescence, or only in early childhood.
Doc not only offers amazing content, he also apparently reads minds! I was JUST about to request a video on Princess Diana.
@Stardust As a doctor myself, we love it 😉
Excellent analysis Dr. Grande. As a young woman who was the same age as Diana, I was thrilled by and for her. I failed to see how anyone could not love her. As the years have gone on, I found her many dramas to be tiresome and irritating especially when I heard that she had thrown herself down a flight of stairs while pregnant with William. I am glad that you have given a very balanced analysis of her personality. I really cannot stand Megan Markle. With all of the available information on Diana, she should have known what she was marrying into. Yes, the monarchy of any country is a strange thing. Your succinct analysis of monarchy itself was spot on too.
@E Aboudara I don't know about bringing her own death upon herself,it could have been an accident caused by the driver trying to flee the paparazzy and one cannot blame Diana for that, as they willl chase anyone who is famous to get a story, it is their job after all,Diana was known to fight for the "underdog" she also was against war and she fought against landmines that continue killing innocent people even after a war has eneded, people loved her and were taking notice of her, this must have been a threat to those who make a fortune selling arms, they are warmonger because they make their money as long as there are wars and so anyone who would influence the public about the destruction war causes in this word would be a threat to them and that person would need to be eliminated.This is not a conspiracy theory on my part,it is quite possible in this corrupt and greedy world.For all her faults Diana was a true humanitarian unlike that fraud called Meghan markle.
@E Aboudara well... she wasn't driving the vehicle she was in. so unless we knew for a fact that she was goading the driver into driving faster, or pressuring him into drinking (do we know those things? i know generally what happened but not granular details) But unless she played an active role in any of the behaviors of the driver of her car, or the drivers of cars following them, the best we can say is she put herself in dicey situations. But she did not cause her own death.
yvette vernet yvette vernet imagine a complete stranger saying ... “that fraud Yvette Vernet (or whatever your real name is). One of the worst things about the great internet is the keyboard bullies. Yes, what you just did there is bullying. ... internet comment section: a vicious and unforgiving environment.
@@goosesmommy6626 Everyone has seen how Meghan markle has been behaving since she met Harry,how she has isolated him from his family and how she has rejected her own family except her mother,if you did not see it then you are wilfully blind,I grew up with a narcissistic mother who was very much like Meghan Markle in many ways and I would also call her a fraud,as she also was very good as coming across as "the victim" you are entitled to your opinion and I am entitled to mine,I certainly am not a bully for voicing that opinion.
@@yvettevernet4759 markle I think initially really believed SHE was going to modernize the monarchy fast. She as I believe a narcissist would not think about Diana's experience except to have contempt at her failure. When Markle realized the Queen wasn't going to move the world for her, that the royal life was dull, having a baby didnt change the routines and responsibilities, so plan B was to drag Harry out, and make money off the royal brand, but the wise Queen has kept on top of it. I feel bad for Harry who reminds me of Diana in personality.
In all the sorrow of the story of the Princess of Wales I've always remembered one somewhat comical situation. The Princess had been seen going to a man's apartment and people were thinking they were having an affair. To use the words of someone, maybe a journalist, who talked about this on TV, Diana was "a demon bridge player" and was just going to a friend's place to play cards!
Great video Dr. Grande! So tragic when she passed-on. Remember my Mom being glued to the TV during all the coverage following the crash...Really love all your case study videos. Have you ever done one on the actress Brittany Murphy??? Her passing was mysterious and unexpected, with many suspected contributing factors when it hapened, I remember as well. As Always - Thank You for all the great content & information Dr. Grande!
Your presentation is priceless...you assume nothing but present everything in a way you can think from every angle.
Great content Dr Grande. The day af Diana's death is forever etched in my mind as I was attending a christening that day. I think Diana wanted what most girls dream of.... the prince in shining armor on the white horse scooping her her up to a happy ever after. This simply is not true. Unfortunately, there were politics involved. She became self depreciating until finding the strength to break free. I think she had a good heart and soul. She went out of her way to help those less fortunate. Her sons although royal display a humane part of their role. The most valuable part of being a mother is showing your vulnerable side and setting a good example for your children, which I believed she did.
Another interesting and thought- provoking video! It was evident the sense of powerlessness that Diana and Charles felt in the months leading up to their marriage. As you mentioned, Charles viewed their relationship as a "business arrangement" and his heart was with another woman and she learned he didn't love her during the infamous engagement interview (the whatever "in love" means line) and felt her marriage was the worst day of her life. Yet, they married and had children remaining together until the marriage was irretrievably broken. Sadly, neither of them acknowledged the choices they had nor took responsibility for their own lives. Although seemingly difficult and fraught with complications, the option to not proceed with the marriage was always available to them. Freedom was only a choice away. Anyway, their story highlighted the importance of staying true to oneself and the consequences of giving away one's power. Thanks for another great analysis!
freedoms just another word for nothing left to lose-Janis Joplin
The Spencer's weren't royalty. They were nobility.
What is the difference? I'm not familiar with the concepts
Royalty is the actual queen, king, princes and princesses, etc.
Nobility is, I think, the aristocracy - - Diana on her own, before marrying Charles, was a Lady. Her father became an earl. These titles were invented in order to organize society.
@@bluecollarlit oh, thank you!
@@sandrianah : Lizards? C'mon please tell me you're joking. the RF are closer to being commoners than any of the "royals" in the past 1000 years. In order to find non-catholics to take the throne after Queen Anne died with no living heirs, parliament had to bypass over 50 other candidates until they found protestant, Electorate Georg in a podunk little fiefdom in Germany. He & his family were basically hicks. They're NOT all that special. And certainly not reptiles. They're APES....like the rest of us. :)
@@bluecollarlit I'd say those titles were invented to allow the elite to remain the elite. It wasn't about society because there was no society. The elite could kill commoners at will until a few hundred years ago. The elite and the church had everything, the people had nothing. And that's how they wanted it to stay. We still have the House of Lords ffs, it's utterly ridiculous. I have nothing against Queenie as a person, she seems a nice enough old bird. But the whole concept is insanity in this day and age. They are not special, nobody is born special. Humans are humans.
Thank you for an astute and fair analysis and commentary. Your analogy with a person thrust into a chemistry lab without the expertise to navigate that world is fascinating and productive - the response to that change is what is telling, character and personality wise.
I forgot that I was her age. She squeezed a lot of life in those years. I didn’t know that people who didn’t do well in school could lead such a high status life. People often say what she should have known by a certain age. I can recall whether I actually knew those things. By 19, I didn’t know anything about affairs or creating a family. I didn’t know about weddings and babies. Her whole life went by so fast. I was watching tv when I heard she had been in a car crash. I remember thinking it must be serious if the news is still on. Maybe she died, I thought. Maybe she was already dead. I stayed up to watch her funeral procession.
Years later, I went on vacation and sat near a British man. He saw I had a book on Diana’s life. He talked to me about how he wasn’t a royalist and had never told anyone he was sad about her death. He cried as he was telling me about how his sports boat racing team was denied a moment of silence in her honor. That was the only conversation we had.
Thanks, Dr. Grande, this was really excellent! It's hard to believe that people under 23-years-old have no idea who Princess Diana is/was, when she was all we ever heard about for decades.
The Netflix documentary, "Diana: In Her Own Words", makes me think you should also analyze Prince Charles for us. Please do!
Diana has always been a big role model for me. When I was younger it was because she was so generous and charitable (One of my favorite quotes from her is “I lead by the heart not the head”). But as I got older and struggled with my own mental health and learned she did as well, I related to her in a different way. She did have her flaws, but the fact that even under her tremendous stress and own personal struggles, she was able to to reach out to others and use her high profile to help good causes. I think that’s something we can all learn from.
Spot on analysis, where everything is taken into account. And yes, there doesn´t have to be a villian. Rather human beings but in an impossible situation. I think the same is happening with the brothers today, William and Harry. The structure of royalty and disfunctional family is a situation they have been thrown in. It would be too much for everyone.
As usual, Doc G gives you things to think about in your own life. His last thoughts about love and how we perceive it isn't always how it really is. Thanks Dr. Grande, for helping me see the other side of things👍🏼💯😊
When you upvote Dr Grande's video before you even watch, cos you just know it'll be a good one!
I have AvPD and have shown symptoms basically as long as I can remember. But something interesting I noticed while doing some attachment theory reflection recently, is that I had a very impactful relationship with a narcissist when I was a teenager that basically made me Express as though I was borderline. He would gaslight me, cheated, lied constantly, and would often humiliate me. During my relationship with that guy, I think I could have met every single criteria for BPD. We were so hot and cold, breaking up over everything and then getting back together, I was extremely paranoid, I would act out and hurt myself, do anything to avoid being abandoned - including trying to change myself to try to be the "ideal" image of a woman. But after I left that relationship (and my subconcious shifted from anxious to disorganized attachment style) I havent had symptoms like BPD again, only my depression & AvPD. 🤔
Interesting.
I could be wrong about this but i dont think its possible to just suddenly have AVPD as personality disorders develop early on through adolescence and manifest themselves throughout adult life.
@@Aura-py8qc "I have AvPD and have shown symptoms as long as I can remember." Literally since childhood. I still had AvPD symptoms through that relationship, but met every symptom criteria for BPD as well.
its called reactive abuse
Is AvPD avoidant personality disorder? I suspect someone I love has it. She is extremely introverted and will literally go months without seeing me, despite telling me she loves being with me and only living 20 minutes away. She also often says she plans to see me more, but it never happens. So she considers us best friends, but it seems strange that she calls me her best friend when I see her maybe 5-6 times a year. My sister otoh sees her best friend at least once a week.
I have offered to pick her up anytime, but she always refuses that and only wants to come to my house. If I want to see her it has to be planned weeks in advance.
She doesn't trust people at all, and I am her only friend. She has bought me lovely pictures about best friends etc., and says I am a great friend. Her avoidant behaviours really kicked off when she stopped working seven years ago.
Do these sound like the behaviours of someone with AvPD?
It’s not comforting to have 750,000,000 people watching your wedding. I’d have a bad day, too.
I had six attending my first time around, and over a hundred the second time, and most of them were complete strangers, and I felt more at home the second time.
I think Camilla gave Charles those cufflinks that day.
@@donnahilton471 she did! There is a documentary on you tube. Her raw natural videos explaining herself.
right! when i got married i just wanted to get the day over with
She pursued that wedding, all she git was her choice
WOW Dr. Grande, I’ve been a subbie for a while now and I always love your videos.
I am Norwegian, so I am at least six hours ahead of you in time, and nine hours ahead if you live on the westcoast like LA.
And I have severe cause of insomnia, so I always jump for joy everytime you post a video in the middle of the night right before I am about to scream into my pillow cos I’m extremely frustrated due to not being able to fall or stay asleep. (I’ve been like this since day 1 when I was born,and I get these seisures where my brain shuts off and no one can make contact with me, they last from 1/2 sec up to ten minutes and occured the first time when I was 2,5 weeks old (I AM NOT JOKING, my Mamma (Mommy) told me AND I’ve read the medical journal from when I was a child 0-17 yrs old, at 18 u r an adult according to Norwegian law so ur a minor and child until ur 18th B’day. And I was admitted to hospital the 1st time at two weeks old due to the fact that I hadn’t slept yet since I was born, and they gave me Diazepam from 1,5 yrs old (Vival 5 mg) and I still take Diazepam (10 mg) + Nitrazepam (10 mg) and have been on this «mix» for 15 yrs now on and off (everytime I am off; I get A LOT of hallusinations both hear and sight and touch, and I get these extreme panic attacks who goes on for weeks and I literally look like a ghost only two days after going off the benzo’s.
I REALLY LOVED your interpretation of Diana and I am really impressed by your objective abilities of the stories you share with us.
I have to ask: you are a PhD dr right? Not an actual psychiatrist or any doctor who can write prescription drugs or am I completely off here now?
I feel like you’re a very good PhD dr in your field of expertise and you definitely strike me as a psychologist with a speciality degree in mental health care and I also do feel like you would be the perfect forensic advisor to the court when it comes to whether a person/prisoner should be released or not, and you’d also be perfect for deciding if a person, child or adult should be in prison or the psychiatric hospital after committing a crime.
Dr. Grande, I am a HUGE fan of you and your videos and I love it every time you post a new video. And I did not mean any offense by saying that I feel you’re a PhD dr and not a psychiatrist dr.
Please please please don’t be mad at me for saying what I said. If you were offended I will delete it immediately I promise you that because I have too much respect for you and your work to offend you in any way but I just really wanted to say that you’re an awesome PhD dr and the best mental health TH-camr in the world 🌍 and I want you to know that whenever I am sad and feel like my life is over, I watch your video of the ransom note 📝 in the JonBenét Ramsay case and like I commented then, I have to pause the video when you say I am surprised it didn’t say remember to brush your teeth and talk about customer service for the kidnapping and how you would rate it etc 😂😂😂
Anyway Dr. Grande you’re so incredible and amazing at what you do and I wish you could speculate on what you’re opinion about what I might be mentally and if ADHD and insomnia is the only thing that is wrong with me because I used to have like a whole page of diagnoses that of course is bs and they forced me to take a little glass filled with pills 💊 three times a day every day for several years when I was only a kid and as a very young adult too. Today I am “only” taking Ritalin, Diazepam, Nitrazepam, Subutex (Buprenorphine 24 mg), morphine 10 mg three times a day and the Ritalin is 120 mg per day so eh, is that a lot? I have extremely severe chronic pain and ADHD and insomnia and panic attacks if I am not taking the benzodiazepines.
Omg 😳 I am so very sorry for throwing this to you but I am really curious about what you would say about me and my case and thank goodness for the free health care in my country. Btw FYI I am not an addict I don’t even smoke or drink at all I am completely absent from any drugs or alcohol or anything like that and I don’t smoke either yuck 🤢.
Anyway if you read all this I have even more respect for you and I am really impressed by your patience.
You rule ❤️ 😘
Love from across the Atlantic Ocean 🌊 way up north west in Europe in a small but the wealthiest country in the world 🌍 ❤️💙🇳🇴💙❤️💖👱🏻♀️💖
There´s only 1 person in this world that can bring me to listen to a video on Princess Diana, because I can be sure that your thoughts and interpretations are well balanced, Dr. Grande. Especially your last chapter in this has some things to think deeply about.
Thank you so much for these fascinating insights. I now do not feel quite so dismissive of Diana's character as I once did. I had, until now, thought of her only as a manipulative, mischievous clothes horse, without giving a thought to what drove her erratic behaviour. Her love and compassion for her children and for the sick and vulnerable were undeniably genuine.
You thought that because you are shallow and superficial yourself 👊
My favorite ASMR haha your voice is so soothing and I can follow everything you say'
IKR!!!!!!!!
Just one thing, her family wasn't royalty. Aristocratic/Noble would perhaps be better descriptions.
The Spencers were of a higher class than the German Windsors so he was not marry anyone beneath him - just far too young and inexperienced for the older experienced Charles. He had to settle down and bride had to be pure.
@@1928gerry the word is still Nobility, not Royalty.
Thank you.
@@1928gerry The Spencers, being nobility, are *not* of higher class than the Windsors, who are royalty. Perhaps you're thinking of elegance, but the highest possible class is royalty and nobles are very definitely below royalty.
She was related to Winston Churchill
Very interesting choosing of people to analyze. Thank you for the videos
I heard Diana say in an interview she and her brother hated her stepmother. She admitted in the interview while mad at her stepmother she pushed her stepmother down the stairs. She also said they did naughty things to their nanny’s such as putting pins in the chairs they sat in. Stealing their nanny’s clothes and throwing them on the roof of the house. She also said in her teens she had this feeling she was destined for greater things. She grew up in a castle herself on one of the queen’s estates. When her mother and father divorced she was unaware her mother tried to get custody. Her mothers mother testified against her in court so the father got custody. Her father was an Earl. Diana had a privileged life as a child. She was not the commoner the papers reported at the time. She also knew the queens children and they played together as children. Her sister dated Prince Charles.
I read every book on her I could find. Since Dr. Grande is diagnosing her without meeting her I’ll do the same. IMO she was borderline. According to bodyguards and servants she also often ignored the boys until she needed them for photo ops. She was a year older than I am so I followed her life.
I think this could be that she is borderline, but I also think she is something they call communal/humanitarian narcissist, doing this humanitarian work was a source of her narcissistic supply, else she would be an empty hole. Also, I do not think she was a fit mother, simply because a mother so fragmented and a mental wreck as she was, cannot be a good mother.
Her sons say they were very close I wouldn’t trust bodyguards they like to leak drama
Brings to mind the lyrics of a Katie Melua song: ‘I was never crazy on my own
And now I know that there's a link between the two
Being close to craziness and being close to you’
I was at a royal garden party in 1987 when Diana came along the roped-off area, stopped just in front of me and talked very intensely to an elderly couple. Just in front of me was a woman with a very large hat, but the hat-wearer was all that was between myself and Diana! I was always interested in the Princess of Wales. We were the same age. I was very curious as to what was being discussed so seriously and at such length, so I jumped up and down for a better view. Imagine my surprise when Diana looked up and gave me a very withering stare instead of the smile I was expecting. I felt as if I had really misbehaved and treated her like a zoo animal! But I did get the hint that privately she might not be the same person she presented to the public.
She could be very cutting in private, and often made terrible comments about the people she had met. When in Aust, the staff in a hotel where she and Charles stayed were devastated by how rude she was and how terribly she spoke to Charles in front of them. He was apparently very patient and kind to her, but her moods were terrible. She talked about suffering, but he really did. He did really care for her.
@Don’t come for me unless I send for you 🤷 Spot on! Still, the lady WAS unhappy,, this has a devastating effect on someone which affects the people around them.
@Don’t come for me unless I send for you 🤷 Such bull💩 Both men have good & bad qualities. Neither is all good or all bad.
@@tonihazle2034 Diana was always unhappy if she wasn't the centre of attention.
James Hewitt said that Diana could not be filled up with love and that no amount of attention was ever enough for her.
He spoke of her extreme emotional neediness and impossible demands for attention.
Other men found the same.
She was even frustrated at the amount of time Haznat Khan used to spend in Surgery. Staff at the hospital spoke about how Diana used to phone up to 6 times in a row using different names to get him to the phone when he was in Surgery.
Can you believe that?
Where was her concern for Haznat's patients!
She even phoned Paul Burrell from Dodi's yacht complaining that Dodi spent too much time in the bathroom and wasn't giving her enough attention!
Charles tried very hard in the beginning to please Diana but there is no way he could have given her the amount of attention she demanded.
No man could!
This is a remarkably balanced view of the situation.
Very comprehensive and well articulated. Trait dependent analysis is strong and moderate tone consistent with professional credentials. Totally empathetic.
I felt bad for Diana and how sad her life with Charles was. The why and how behind love is hard to understand and doesn't make sense at the best of times! Thanks for churning out the endless array of cool videos.👌 Love you, Doc!❤
When I got married in 1982, I wore a Princess Di wedding dress knock off that I got from JCPenney for $325 lol 😂. Gosh I loved her.
Edit: Lol I even copied her bouquet 😆
Wow I would done the same
Because you have no personality
why? you beLIEve you are enTITled to be a 'fairy princess' too? Hope you didn't Mary a frog as she did.. lol
We all loved her.
Sue,
Thanks for sharing the memory. I'm imagining your dress.
She was such a kind person .
RIP lady D
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
She really loved her fans!
Not dead. She goes by the name of David Furnish now.
@@mikeformisano764
You know ....as crazy as its sound , I'm not surprised.
@@mikeformisano764 😂
@@littlesoul9618 Yup, they dont call it Hollyweird for nothing.
What a fantastic choice Doc! I'll love it and Love you
No matter how she’s analyzed she’s my beautiful angel.
Absolute beauty ; in and out.
I have just watched this for the second time. It is a lot to take in but I think it was both interesting and compassionate and extremely well explained.
I'm late viewing this video. I absolutely adored Diana---flaws and all. She was so humble and relatable. She worked as a nanny and the family she nannied for had no idea that she was from aristocracy until they found something from her bank that fell from her purse and saw the name "Lady Diana Spencer". How many people would be as humble as she? Not many, particularly nowadays. Humility seems to be a rare trait. I don't agree with the BPD diagnosis. It does seem to be comorbid with eating disorders but I do not believe it fit for Diana. She had very sad circumstances in her life (e.g. parents' divorce, a sham of a marriage to a man who never loved her and criticized her, etc.). Her eating disorder was likely her way of gaining some control in her life. Seems much of her depression could have been situational depression/adjustment disorder. Who wouldn't be depressed if they had the same circumstances as Diana?! I know I would be. Let's face it, Diana was a mere adolescent when she married Prince Charles. I think she did the best she could with what she had. I think we would have likely seen a very different, more confident, and an even more dynamic person if she would have lived to see her 40s. (and beyond). Thank you for reviewing her ♥
Diana was 19, far from being an adolescent. Diana always lived a privileged life, which is much easier than working for a living.
She was getting her life together she would have been great because she was becoming her own woman and looking her best. As the song says looking for love in all the wrong faces
@@deborahmcgee7970 She might have been looking her best but she was still playing reckless games with other peoples emotions.
She tipped the paps off when she was on the yacht with Dodi to take the kiss photo to make Haznat Kahn jealous.
I believe had she lived Diana would have had a few more marriages and acrimonious divorces with Diana always blaming the hapless husband.
I have no doubt that she would have been involved in more scandals.
I think she would have become some sort of Society Hostess in New York raising money for Charities hosting Dinners at $100,000 a plate.
Wow!! So suprised when I saw this one!! She was an amazing human being. I'll never get over her tragic end. Thanks for this Dr. Todd. 💔😔
Her family were nobility, not royal. It is considered that Charles still married a commoner, instead of a princess, because of this.
I noticed that too. A real American understanding of royalty (I'm Canadian), but balanced and I'm a huge fan of Dr. Grande.
@@margaretmcgill526 If you noticed that when Meghan married Harry the US kept saying that America finally had a princess, and this Canadian just rolled her eyes thinking no you don't.
Meghan was born in California, and lived there most her life. She just worked in Canada. Also the Spencer family is older than the Windsor family.
@@sharhenley I don't think anybody implied that SHE was Canadian.
@@sharhenley I think the Canadian mention was because Canada is in the Commonwealth Realm, and this the Queen is their monarch, not anything to do with Meghan.
What blew me away in a recent biography was that the surgeon she was dating and almost living with..staying over in his hopsital apt, cooking for him and him staying with her at the palace...overnight sleepovers. He was a Pakistani Muslim and she planned to marry him! She flew to Pakistan to meet his family! She told him she was eager to MOVE to Pakistan! That really shocked me..was she jumping from the frying pan to the fire ...was she willing to lead a highly cosseted life as a Muslim wife in a very conservative country? That whole idea was an even WORSE recipe for disaster, cloistered life than being in the Royal Family. It was theorized when he broke it off she made hundreds of phone to him dozens a day harassing him...also that Doddi Fayed and thebphtos on thebuacht etc were designed to win the surgeon back...to male him jealous...if so highly manipulative.
You’re right. She was obsessed with the Dr and I think it troubled him.
@@latinaalma1947 was this So called loving mother about to move to Pakistan and leave her children in England . Diana always put men before her children .???
@@DanaDakota Diana had a man addiction problem . How many men was she obsessed with .
You speak so clearly and your annunciation is pristine. Your videos are perfect for learning English.
Thank you, Dr. Grande, for this thoughtful and informative look at Princess Diana. I watched the National Geographic documentary Diana: In her own words. A film in which Princess Diana is seen in her secret meetings with author Andrew Morton who recorded his interviews with her to write her biography, which was actually an autobiography as it turns out. After watching this on Netflix, I found Diana to be quite a character and very likable. She described her older sister’s behavior when Charles was around as, “she was on him like a bad rash”. She was quite funny and very open and honest with Morton. She had an innocent quality almost like that of a child. I found her delightful in this documentary.
As for the current members of the royal family, Dr. Grande is very kind and generous in his comments that they are perhaps uncomfortable with the situation of being in a position of unearned glory.
I, myself, have observed most members to have adapted remarkably well to their HRH status. Too well, in fact. I dare say that they believe they are superior and don’t question that superiority whatsoever. I don’t think they feel it’s necessary to earn glory when the are glory by blood, in fact, earning it would be beneath them.
The only self-made millionaire in the lot is Meghan Markle, who wisely only lived in the royal house of horrors long enough to to get a taste and get out.
I like your analogy. If you are going to force someone into a chemistry job, you can’t blame them for blowing things up! 🤣🤣🤣
As per usual, I love the channel Doc
Would love to see a video on:
Chris Benoit
Tony Soprano
Budd Dwyer
L.Ron Hubbard
I would also love to see a video about Hubbard... Although I think it would be prudent to avoid the topic completely.
Id love to honestly see a video about myself lol. Im for real though
Tony Soprano would be amazing, given that psychology is a major theme of the show.
Sam S the de facto spokesperson of commentator for this channel. We need to stand behind him.
@@mrooz9065 😂😂🤗🤗🤗🤗 thanks
I love your point where all people have both good and bad traits, it's so true and it's so worth trying to remember it when we want to be harsh about someone else. I admit, I felt both ways about Princess Diana, but I was happy that you say you feel that her legacy is mostly a positive one for which I believe to be true. I will say this, the Netflix series, The Crown, sure takes a very sour portrayal of Charles, and Camilla too. But it was a little shocking to me and I don't know why. I feel like the series portrayal of an eating disorder was presented well, as I felt compassionate toward her. And I do remember when she began to publicly acknowledge those troubles because I felt that so many people really admired her that maybe it would help other young, (mostly women), people suffering with eating disorders. Thank You.
A brilliant analysis, Dr Grande.