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Olympus 45mm F1.2 vs Olympus 45mm f1.8
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ส.ค. 2019
- Olympus has two very good portrait lenses, the Olympus 45mm f1.2, and the Olympus 45mm f1.8. In this video, I go through the main specs and give advice on which one you should get if you are in a need for a portrait lens.
M.Zuiko 45mm f1.8
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Now I'm the proud owner of a used Olympus 45mm f1.8. It weighs almost nothing despite the high light intensity. You hardly notice it on the camera, as small as it is. But most of all, it's crisp right down to the corners. The sharpness is really excelent. And all that for barely 140 euros, which I paid for it. Should the other photo indians haul 10 kg of photo equipment for ten thousand euros around the area. I'm smart, I do not do that. :)
Just throwing my two cents into the hat. I own both of these lenses. You're spot on about preferring the f1.8 on the smaller bodies. I own both the em10 mk3 and the em5 mk2. Its a potent, small package. However, overall, the pro f1.2, on all my bodies, including my em1 mk2, is my go to lens. Auto focus, image quality, bokeh, low light performance, feel, features, and overall build quality are all improvements, if not some significant. IF you are using an em1 mk2 or the em1x, the trinity of f1.2 pro lenses are almost a must have in my book. I love them. In and out.
For the price, I would take the 1.8
Thank you for a year of twice as much "But, hey! Thanks for watching and bye for now!"
Well said on stopping down slightly for portraits. Many years ago I assisted a professional photographer, and he would always stop down between half and one-and-a-half stops, on whatever format he was using for portraiture. This eliminates the situation where the eyes are sharp and the end of the nose is out of focus, and resolution improves from as little as half a stop down. Today there is an obsession with shooting wide open "because I've paid for it", when the quality of out of focus highlights is much more important than the amount of bokeh.
Guys it’s easy . If you have a wedding use the 1.2 if you are going crazy one night in a house party use the 1.8 . Simple
Just bought the 1.8. the images I've seen which were made with it are quite stunning.
Thank you Peter, but i would reconsider the light transmission thing. The effective transimmion of the 1.2 pro lenses is rated at 1.8 while the 1.8 transmisison in actually 2.0. So only a 0.2 real difference in light gathering.
This effective transmission is a rather new piece of knowledge for me. Can you please show me where I can find more information about it for every M.Zuiko lens? Thank you very much!
Then You should be a lens engineer...😂😂😂
I love the 45 mm f1.2, however I cannot justify the cost for the number of portraits that I shoot. I decided to buy the 45 mm f1.8 and rent the 45 mm f1.2 when I really need it.
Wise decision.
More good sense as usual. I'm pleased the channel is going well, keep them coming!
Thanks.
Hi Peter, thanks for the EM-5ii comment, it's my favourite also because of the feel. Thanks also for your videos, they're much appreciated.
Great lesson!
I very much look forward to your videos and love your use of English! Good job chap!!
Thank you.
f 1.8 is one of the best lens a MFT photographer can have, no weight (the reason you opted MFT), amazing picture quality, even in low light , and with no price when compared to any other lens to offer anything similar to the images it produce.... take a bow.....
I have just bought a used 1.8 for 103€. Sharpness is excellent even wide open. It is visible that even 14 year old girls like my daughter do not have perfectly smooth skin.
The 1.8 45 is an absolutely "no brainer". You get a lot for your money. I like to work also with an old OM G.Zuiko Auto S 1.4 - 50 mm. With a little patience I get good results for little money.
I agree.
I like the pro lenses as they are weather sealed. I like to shoot in all conditions and one of the primary driving factors for shooting with Olympus in the first place. The optical performance is also a step up, thats also important to me.
Peter -- thank you for all of the time and effort that you put into these videos -- I'm not an Olympus user (well, I have some Olympus 35mm cameras) yet -- I really enjoy my Panasonic G85 -- but much of what you impart to us viewers is brand (and often format) independent -- I have benefited greatly from your videos! Thank you and keep on posting!!!!
Thank you very much.
@@ForsgardPeter -- I forgot to say that often you have opened up my eyes to new (to me) and interesting ways to use traditional equipment -- like the 45mm (i.e.: 90mm full-frame) portrait lens focal length. I have the Lumix 42.5mm f1.7 (can't afford the Leica version!) -- and I only pull it out of my camera bag when I want to shoot a portrait of members of my family, I forget that it is a nice, low-end, telephoto lens with a decent aperture (and small). So your videos often describe, and show examples, of ways to use my equipment that I wouldn't have thought of -- thank you!
I think I know what the concept is that can help you explain the issue of the lens and the camera, center of mass.
A lighter camera with a lighter lens should have a center of mass in the center which makes it easier to manipulate.
The same thing happens with a heavy lens in a heavy camera.
but when one weighs more than the other, the center of mass moves in the direction of the heaviest.
This happens with knives, weapons and anything that we manipulate, if this unbalanced is difficult and tiring manipulation.
Very good video, I have the F 1.8 and I find you are limited in some aspects but it's a very sharp lens for portraiture. Thanks
Actually given the various formats supported by digital cameras (16:9, 4:3, 3:2, and 1:1) a round hood large enough to cover the widest image without vingetting works fine.
Thanks for another fabulous video Peter. I just purchased the f1.8. I think it is a great lens all around. Also, it is far more in keeping with the mft philosophy of compact size. If you want to maximize your image quality, have the most shallow depth of field, the best low light performance, spend a lot of money, and lug around bulky equipment, why not just go full frame?
Good point! Probably, the fast Zuiko lenses are still smaller than much of the opposition. I have the f/1.8. It's tiny. Even looks quite small on the OMD EM10 mkii! Although the 45mm f/1.2 looks about as big as the old OM system 50mm or 55mm /1.2.
Thanks for the video Peter. I have already ordered a new 45mm f/1.8 for myself.
Good choice!
8:00 When you are shooting as a professional, the feel of camera body or lens is a huge thing. Maybe everybody don’t care about it, but I think it’s crusial to have cameras and lenses that also feel awesome when working for real.
It is a very important thing. The way we feel about the gear might be different.
The f1.8 was my first M43 lens, I started with the pen e-p1. Today I have a GX80 and still use this lens, it is great. Of course the f1.2 would be nice but for what I take, the f1.8 is fantastic enough. It is pretty fast at focussing, if the f1.2 is faster it must be running at lightspeed ;-)
The AF is a bit faster with the 45mm f1.2, but as I said for portraits it really does not matter that much.
Gracias, muy interesante. Creo que conseguiré uno usado f1,8
Thanks for your efforts to make us a better photographer. There is really a lot of useful information in your videos for a newbie like me. Please keep on the good work...
Thank you.
Dear Peter many many thanks for sharing your knowledge about Olympus cameras.
for just 2 f stops i would not bother .... I stick to the f1.8 one :D
I got the 45mm f/1.8. It's absolutely tiny. I couldn't afford the f/1.2 so it was a no brainer for me!
45mm f1.8 is a great lens.
I have the f/1.8, and like it a lot, but rarely use it wide open - more often 2.8/4. Wide open, the depth-of-field is often too shallow - I want more of my subject to be in focus!!! With IBIS, the f/1.8 can take sharp photos is some fairly dark environments.
It is a good thing to stop down a bit with the 45mm f1.8.
I want one of them but cant deside.
Does the lens hood work for the 12mm work for the 45mm? I wanted to get a 45mm and they don't have square hoods. Wasn't sure if I could just buy a 12mm for them. Thanks!
Also the 17mm doesn't have a square one from Olympus. Only from other manufacturers on Amazon. I prefer the 12mm hood so i wasn't sure if it affected the image. Vignetting for example
Yes it does. work on both.
Thank you Peter
5:30 Is it possible to use focus stacking on that kind of close subject with a narrow range and still keep the out of focus background?
Yes it is.
Thanks Peter you are doing a great job. Some nice Images.
Thank you.
I have the 45mm f1.8...just trying to determine if the f1.2 version is a necessary upgrade.
Signs point to no.
Bonus: the Olympus 40-150mm f2.8 PRO is also a killer portrait lens. I own that lens and love it. I've also taken some good portraits with the Olympus 12-40mm f2.8 PRO. So, if f2.8 is fast enough to blur out the background, then I guess f1.8 definitely is.
I agree that the biggest benefit 45mm f1.2 Pro has is the weather sealing. It also has thenMF Clutch. If you compare the image quality the difference is not big. I agree that 40-150mm f2.8 is a great portrait lens.
Great review as always Peter! What lens hood are on the 1.8?
It is LH-46.
I guess the Sigma 56mm1.4 is the best compromise for 400 €
Sigma makes good glass, but cannot say about the 56mm f1.4. Have not tested it. Maybe I should.
Defenitly, it‘s a great lens!
My next lens for portraiture.
Hi Peter thank you for the review! I’m just wondering where did you find the square hood for the 1.8? Is that the hood meant for 12mm f2?
Yes it is.
Would like to see you review the Sigma F1.4 series: 16mm, 30mm and 56mm weather sealed fast bargains. I always enjoy your videos.
I did review the Sigma 16mm f1.4 last spring. It was one of the first spring days in Helsinki this year: th-cam.com/video/Lj6i19c2SkE/w-d-xo.html
Matti Sulanto did a review of the 56. I traded in my 45/1.8 for the Sigma 56, which is an almost perfect lens: very sharp, even at f/1.4, nice bokeh, good auto and manual focus. But meanwhile I think I should have kept the 45, too, because it is also really good and so light. Only that I don‘t like it’s bokeh.
But my best lens in that range is certainly the 50/2 Macro! Although it‘s AF is not fast enough for portraits if the subject is active.
A minor point but at 02:08 you misspelled "length" as "lenght". I like your comparison but I consider the "look and feel" to be a legitimate considerations too with but a bit of a luxury factor.
Yes, I always get mistakes with the word length.
Thanks Peter!
The other factor to consider is the minimum focusing distance. I find a short telephoto is also good for detail shots, and a smaller minimum focusing distance could make a difference. On the spec sheet both of these appear to be identical, is there a difference from one to the other?
Both have the same closest focusing distance, 20cm.
Thanks for this! Is the 45mm 1.8 lens only good for portraits or also for other kind of photography?
It is a good all around lens for situations when you need a bit more reach than the standard lens can give you. It is also good for products shots etc.
I wish there was more portrait comparisons, ie what results at 1.2/1.8/2.0/.. and comparing the sharpness wide open.
Yes, you are right there should have been images and comparising.
@@ForsgardPeter Yes. You mentioned that the aperture difference is not a big issue for portrait, one difference of the Pro lens is better IQ wide open IIRC what less clear is if the there is an IQ difference at the aperture one would actually use ..
Maybe at some point you can do a video on portrait lenses and do some more technical comparison, maybe the 2 45s, the 75 and why not the pro zooms with one at 40mm and the other at 75mm and why not at 150mm (does 150mm@2.8 compare to 75@1.8?)
Ideas for future videos :)
Hi Mr Forsgard....I have a doubt.
A 45 mm lens on a micro 4/3 camera is a 90 mm equivalent lens on a FF camera. When I use my 55 mm zuiko lens on my EM 10 mark II with an adapter.....this is a 110mm equivalent lens on a FF....?? Regards.
Yes, you have the same angel of view as a 110mm on a FF body.
Dear Peter thanks for sharing your great video. I love Olympus for the small bodies and small lenses. Of course I am an amateur photographer. Professional photographers cam spend a more money for professionals lenses and bodies but can choose other brands with that money. Greetings from Sicily
the 1.2 could have tempted me had it been much cheaper than the Panasonic Leica 42.5mm f1.2 but it doesn`t seem to be. As such I doubt they`ll sell many of them.
I agree that Olympus has recently had a bit too high prices on their new gear.
45 1.8 lens is really good, very small and very cheap too. I used it with 10MKII and images was very nice, especially portraits.But AF in this lens for some reason not working reliable on this camera and on other Lumix camera too, so its better to use it in manual mode wide opened.IMHO.
Focusing needs to be spot on when using f1.8.
In Australia I can get 12mm f2, 17mm f1.8, 25mm f1.8, 45mm f1.8 used for the price of 45mm f1.2 new.
Clearly, if you do not shoot professionally, the quadruple primes of Olympus is unbeatable.
Good price.
Excellent video! I’ve owned the 45mm f1.8 and have been very happy with it for portraits and street photography. I noticed that you use a square lens hood on it. Can you tell me what the model number is? Is it the LH-48?
Thanks. Yes t is the LH-48.
Thanks, that was going to be my question. Got this cracking little lens today, £150 brand new😁😁
Thanks for all the video content Peter. Got the EM1 Mk 11 and love it. Had an E500 for years !👍
Loves all ur video..and im really interested with em10 mk ii..maybe you could make more video for it??thanks..
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I have several videos about the E-M10 MKII on my channel. Will make some more. 📽 th-cam.com/play/PLDi4hF9-cy6juvGhjr-ZiP7OTfZ8OsmPR.html
@@ForsgardPeter thank you for making video and give us knowledge about photography..always support your channel👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Hi Peter,
Can you make a video and compare 45mm F1.2 PRO with 75mm f1.8 ?
I have 45mm F1.8 and 75mm f1.8, but I am not sure if buying 45mm F1.2 PRO can be beneficial for me.
That could be a video topic. Thanks.
Hmm in terms of bokeh the 1.2 doesn't blow away the 1.8 for me, eventhough I can see the 1.2 is a better lens. It's a hard decision, for the price of the 1.2 I could purchase the 1.8 and the 75mm f1.8 for similar money. I'm not professional so I guess I'll probably start with the 1.8 which is a great little lens for travel photography, and keep checking the camera shops for a good condition second hand 1.2 version. Thanks again Peter for giving me a nice dilemma, lol.
You are welcome. The f1.8 lenses are very good and really good value for money. The major difference for me as apro is the weather sealing. Sometimes we just have to abuse our gear in a very bad weather. During free time I like to use the f1.8 lenses.
@@ForsgardPeter Yes how remiss of me, you don't have the luxury of waiting for good weather, you earn your living in all weather conditions. Thank you for your excellent videos on Olympus products, between you and Robin Wong you've inspired me to get into MFT with an E-M10 iii.
Great video!! Peter
Thank you.
Love your work Peter. Your advice is very good and practical. Thank you for making these videos
Thanks.
I'm thinking about sigma 30mm f1.4 ($289) vs Oly 45mm f1.2 ($1,200) and going mmm...
There is a quite big difference in price. Also 30mm is a different lens than 45mm. Sigma has also a 56mm f1.4 lens that is more close to the 45mm.
Where did you get the square lens hood for the 45mm 1.8? What size is it?
It is the one that is for the 12mm f2.0. It is LH-46
Getting a new lens or a new camera is absolutely a way to get the inspiration back :D
Sometimes it can be, but I do not think it works in the long run.
@@ForsgardPeter For me it worked, as I switched from a heavy dslr to an em-10 mark ii with a 17mm f1.8. I'll probably get the 45mm next!
i just picked up the 45mm lens. I am having a tough time getting it to focus accurately. Seems to miss focus. Is there a setting on the Pen F which would make this lens focus more accurately? is it in spot? Center weighted? Is there some menu item I need to click to make it work better? New to Oly. usually use Fuji.
Have you tested it with a tripod so that there is no vibration or movement at all.
Points well made, Peter - ergonomics, optical performance, value - factors for any lens. Fine images, especially the amusement park. Olympus has lenses on sale from time to time - get on their e-mailing list to receive current offerings and tips (at least in US).
Good tip, lenses are on sale time to time also in Europe and I believe in other parts of the world also.
Dear Peter, I have an Olympus OM4-ti Camera Body with Zuiko highly professional Lenses like 24 mm F2 and 50 mm F1.2 film Lenses. My question is does Olympus have a converter from Zuiko Olympus OM mount to the new digital OMD format mount, in order to use 35 mm Lenses on new Olympus Digital Camera Bodies. ManyThanks & Best Regards.
Not sure if Olympus has, but there are adapters for using your film OM-lenses on your OM-D cameras. I have a video about vintage-lenses: th-cam.com/video/_o5laX2NuEU/w-d-xo.html
THANKS for your GREAT work !!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you for watching.
Hello i’m a begginer, but Given that i can make some « bokeh » at 150mm with the olympus 40-150 f4-5.6 ,do i need to buy the olympus 45mm f1.8 ?
I you are happy with the results you get with the lenses you have, then no you do not need a new lens.
Do they have the same number of blades? I think the square hood and size really is the Leica look so fits well do the Pen F. But that pricing you can get all three primes for $850 that will be a better boost to your creativity. If portraits are shot manual focus, what about using vintage Olympus glass? Can you use for instance a 50mm f1.4 OM System lens. Nice set of images that first portrait is wow and I like the last portrait in first set as an alternative to the corporate headshot.
Thank you. The 45mm f1.2 Pro has 9 and the 45mm f1.8 has 7 blades.
Yes, you can use old vintage glass for portraiture. I have a video on my channel about vintage lenses and adapters: th-cam.com/video/_o5laX2NuEU/w-d-xo.html
Excellent, presentation, on your video's Tony Liverpool England
Thank you.
The lens hood on the 45mm1.8 is not the one that comes with that lens. But it looks cool. :)
Yes, it is not. I think its from the 12mm f2.0.
Peter may I know which lens and body you've used to shoot this video?
Because I can see a nice boukhe of your book rack behind and very sharp foreground.
It was filmed with E-M1 MKII (Flat profile), the lens was 45mm f1.2 at f1.2.
@@ForsgardPeter Lovely to see the same lens which is about to be reviewed being used for the video also.
What kind of lens hood is that on the 45 1.8? Where can i find that?
That is LH-46. Olympus/ONM SYSTEM webstore most likely has it.
Hey Peter White kind og lens hood do you have on your Olympus 45 1.8 ?
It is LH-48. kit.co/PeterF/my-camera-gear-i-use/olympus-lh-48-metal
How good are omd em1 markII for shooting moving subjects? what lenses are best for perhaps a jumping squrriel in the air or a fast flying bird in take off and landing?
Do yu have any experiences off this?
With the new firmware (3.0 and never) it is very good.
@@ForsgardPeter I am planning to buy the EM1 Mark II.
I have heard that there is a firmware 3.1 hos do you get this? Is it really in the camera when you buy it or how does it work?
You connect the camera to your computer and use Olympus software. I made a video about how to upgrade the firmware: th-cam.com/video/RX4truamOUY/w-d-xo.html
Can you point me to a location to purchase the squared lens hood for the 45 f1.8? I seem to be striking out? Is there another lens that offers this and would fit the 45? I discovered that the 40-150 non-pro lens cap fits the 75mm Olympus lens. Nice discovery! * I just listened a little more carefully and it says its a 12mm lens hood. After checking, they go for about $ 70--80. E-gads!
Here is a link: kit.co/PeterF/my-camera-gear-i-use/olympus-lh-48-lens-h
@@ForsgardPeter Thank you, sir!
Your sweatshirt graphic says it all.
:D, yes.
Hi Peter, how can I find 45mm 1.8 Lens hood? Thank you.
Search for LH‑40B. I had the one that is from the 12mm f2.0 and that is LH-48.
Just a question: what focal length are you recording on the 2.8 zoom? The background bokeh looks a little busier than I would have expected.
I used a 45mm f1.2 at f1.2.
Oh, I meant filming yourself. You wrote that you used the 2.8 zoom in the description. It’s not bad, I have the same lens and just wanted to test it out under the same settings.
Ou nou, I forgot to change that. The video was recorded with the 45mm f1.2.
Good review
Thanks!
I was so lucky, I bought 45mm 1.8 (brand new never used lens in 170 pounds, someone was selling) and second I bought 12-40mm pro lens (never used lens for only 350 pounds on ebay). and I am happy with my combo, maybe I will consider 30mm 1.4 Sigma now.
You certainly got those with an excellent price!
I prefer M I C R O 4/3 - so f1.8
The PRO Lens is always better, if you can afford paying the difference, as it will handle any photographic situation without any problem. The weather sealing, and metal structure could not be compromised for outdoor photography, especially in low light conditions. Many Thanks Peter for the honest and comprehensive technical review.
A lens is called "fast lens" when it aperture ratio is f/4 or under. So f/3.5 is already a fast lens by definition, but f/4 is normal and f/5.6 is slower and f/8 is slow.
The 45mm f/1.2 ain't faster than f/1.8 because both has same t-stop. It is same brightness of image when using both.
The "speed" of lens is that what shutter speed you can get with the lens for your purpose. It has nothing to do with DOF, as it doesn't affect speed that what DOF you have.
So you do not get f/1.2 PRO because you want faster lens, as both has same shutter speed for same brightness, you get it only for a shallower DOF.
And if you are for portraiture and you want pleasing blurry background, it ain't made with a shallow DOF, but with a narrow FOV.
So to get a very blurred backgrounds, you use long focal lengths like 100-200mm and then deeper DOF like a f/2.8-4 so you get person whole face or body in focus. And that gives you deep DOF but very blurry background.
And because narrow FOV, you get superior background control as well. You can keep subject still and move around just little bit and you get completely different backgrounds selected and set by just camera movement.
And as you are further than 4 meters from the subject, people usually looks far more intimate and interesting, that is a psychological effect how we read and memorize people's faces from 4-5m distance and not closer.
The other benefits are as well that you can have more space around subject to lit them. So you can really control lighting far better with narrow FOV than wider.
5his is why Olympus best (and best in m4/3) portrait lenses are 40-150mm f/2.8 PRO and 12-100mm f/4 PRO. And not any of these 17/25/45mm ones.
One amazing portrait lens is 75-300mm f/4.8-6.7. stopped to f/8 and used at 250-300mm range.
But don't try it indoors...
And people should understand that "kit lens" means the lens comes in same box as the camera body comes, and not in separated box. Olympus has many great kit lenses like 12-40mm f2.8 PRO and 25mm f1.8 and 45mm f1.8, as well 12-100mm f/3. The coming 12-45mm f/4 likely becomes a new kit lens for Olympus.
So when some manufacturers make terrible kit lenses, it doesn't mean some others don't deliver very good high quality kit lenses with their camera bodies.
I personally think that very long lenses are not that good for portraits. I like to be quite close to the model. Communication is much easier. Otherwise nothing wrong with photographing portraits with long lenses.
10:24
I made a Portrait with the iPhone and it Looks like made by the 1.8 (?). I think Apple watched Many photographer & they know how much boke is needed! Maybe an idea for an TH-cam Movie?!
The portrait mode is interesting. It is not optically made and it looks a bit different than the same amount of background blur that a fast lens makes.
Peter Forsgård a Mode that olympus Couleur make with pixelshift (AI)
They could and it would be interesting.
The iPhone portrait mode is pretty cool but the blur is quite bad at times and especially if you are looking at it on a bigger than the 6.2inch screen then you know the difference
Your 1.8 needs a damned good clean :)
I think Olympus only has one chance to stay alive. They need to use computational photography to increase bokeh just like smartphones do. That's the main reason why people don't like micro43. Even their fastest lenses are only equivalent to f2 on full-frame.
Mad English TV you have a total of 4 elements that controlls it, aperture is one one of them.
I'm not totally against this idea. If that happens, hopefully it's something that's optionally turned on. In any case I'll admit that the greater DOF is partly what attracted me to try m4/3. It's become another bit in my arsenal as a hobbyist; I also shoot with APS-C and FF cameras.
I love the overall great quality that's coming from a sensor similar to a 110 film frame. Amazing stuff!
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