I have had mine about a week and I love it. I appreciate your basic tutorial. Please feel free to do more tutorials. Roland so far has not provided anything like what you just did in your demo. Thank you.
Nice!!! I have the Jupiter-X, which is basically the same engine, with different interface. Getting the Juno-X might be kind of redundant for me, but I still want the Juno-X. :)
It's a great synth, I don't have this but the Jupiter. Sounds amazing, most of all it's fun to play. Having the ability to play 4 synths standalone in a dawless setup is something most other synths can't offer.
@@LeslieDugger Why? If I’m not using a DAW. Much easier than writing… “in a setup where I don’t use a DAW on a computer”. Hope that helps you sleep better.
I would like to know how it performs as a main midi keyboard in a producer studio setup, to control other synths in parallel with its own module. If it has easy access to midi channel change and stuff like that we do all the time on hybrid setups. Also if the sliders and knobs will work great on other roland cloud instruments (thats so important), like jupiter and maybe an Jx8P or whatever instrument we load from cloud. I even wanted to map an hardware MKS-50 rack module with it, this would be great.
As always Excellent contribution from Alamo Music, A deep analysis without being tedious and extensive. Waiting for another Juno X video. Greetings from South America.
Have had mine about a month-I really like it. I have an HS60 that I'll likely be getting rid of as I am tired of dealing with the maintenance on a 40 yr old synth!
Hello guys. I just bought Juno-X but I see that my keyboard does not work and responds to After Touch. But I don't see anything related to this in the settings either. Isn't aftertouch the keyboard? as it says in the specifications!
It is possible that after you put a few notes in a pattern in the Step sequencer, instead of the pattern remaining with the fixed notes, it will work in another scale as well. like an arpeggiator? That is, to move up and down the scale? Because I can't find any function related to Pitch shift or something... or only fixed notes in pattern!
Great Review!!! Convinced me to order one! I'm new to synths and there's a lot in this thing that I like. As a guitarist I won't buy more synths, vintage or new, or work with Plug ins on a pc. The Juno X seems to deliver a great package of good sounds I can use. You did some great vintage tones here while other reviewers seem to look for some cheesy 90ies techno/dancepop sounds you had me the second you turned the drive up :)
I would like to know how it performs as a main midi keyboard in a producer studio setup, to control other synths in parallel with its own module. If it has easy access to midi channel change and stuff like that we do all the time on hybrid setups. Also if the sliders and knobs will work great on other roland cloud instruments (thats so important), like jupiter and maybe an Jx8P or whatever instrument we load from cloud. I even wanted to map an hardware MKS-50 rack module with it, this would be great.
I’m looking for a synth that could fit my tiny home studio. Being able to have so much sounds without turning on my computer is dope. The only doubt that remains is the internal memory capacity. Is it as limited as the Fantom 0? I wish I could combine several model expansions without having to free some memory space.
Great point. I have a few digitals myself, and they all get a bit of love. One of my favorites is Waldorf's Blofeld. Tons of power and it's relatively affordable.
Digital is just as awesome analogue can't do what digital does and vice versa be easy on yourself as a musician and just treat them as two different sounds use both together an analogue and digital mate great together in a mix good results come with being open minded we usually shun the synths that end up helping us in the future
Man. His comment about working outside of the box. I really do feel that way. I’m over sw synths, however, since I won’t be moving away from my computer entirely it makes sense. This is perfect for ppl who feel that way. I’m unsure about the analog feel that you mentioned, however, I’m entirely new to analog synthesis and don’t have much experience. I get what you mean but just haven’t done enough to get that feel you speak of. I played with the Jupiter X for a while and my only complaint was that when I went to play with other models, I didn’t know what parameters could be controlled and which could not because I didn’t know those boards well. While you can twist or turn/ fade and see, that’s a real workflow killer. Don’t think I care for Fantom, but I’m sure that’s where I’ll end up in the future. Lol
Great video! Can you please provide me advise on the following: How do I setup the arpeggios on a Juno-X, so that they play independent from each other other multiple keyboard splits? I tried to setup keyboard ranges for each parts, but no matter what I do the arp's do not play independent. Play an arp on one split and it affects the arps on other split. It looks like the arps cannot be separated and are triggered by the entire keyboard, despite the key ranges. Thank you in advance.
I changed the age and turned off the internal speakers.. but when I turn on/off the keyboard, I loose all the Systems settings. Any way to save the System settings so that the speakers stay off when I turn on the Juno X?
Thanks for the demo, Chris! Did you also like the keybed on the new Juno X? I wonder how it compares to some other keybeds mechanically, especially - other Rolands. Have you tried the Jupiter X or Fantom and could you compare the keybeds with the Juno X? (I'm sure they would not have fitted it with some inferior keybed, as the instrument looks solid. Just checking... :>)) Thanks!
from what I understand the innards and the jack boards are the Exact same as a Jupiter-Xm and a Jupiter-X. Software/models is a bit different to run the exclusive Juno-x engine and Juno-60 model.
Hi Roland, please add a USB sequencer to pair with this that has the CV and Gate outs as well. I would absolutely buy a sequencer expander that also enabled more connectivity to modular.
I have a question about the aux in. If i have another synths can i send say my moog37 into the aux in and use the onboard efx on the juno? Almost using the junox effects as a pedalboard?
I don’t understand, If you have a preset sound and move around the faders…..how do you get back to the original sound after you moved the faders all over the place?
"analog modeling", a phrase used to describe Digital Emulations of an Analog source. In my personal opinion, 90% of the non-musicians who listen to music wont be able to detect the difference, (especially if the Digital source is placed into a mix). The personal distaste I have for digital synths is they produce an amount of "Ear Fatigue", my ear becomes literally Tired of hearing it, and so I've personally associated (overbearing) Digital Synthesis with a negative mental association. Which isn't to say that Digital Synths are trash, far from it. In fact, Digital Synths that model analog sounds can be used to devastating affect musically. HOWEVER, if one were to listen to an entire playlist of ANALOG synths, and then compare to the sounds as found in this video... you will begin to refine your Ear Palette, and once you hear the difference, it's difficult to forget. As those amazing Analog sounds will stand out, and sound like Ear Orgasms, at times simply by Thinking about it. For example, listen to this Analog Prophet 10 Rev 4: th-cam.com/video/cpa6ntGZ1oQ/w-d-xo.html&t this Prophet 08: th-cam.com/video/OVr64fNaEK0/w-d-xo.html or this Arturia Matrixbrute: th-cam.com/video/-mGlcCpf1-0/w-d-xo.html despite the use of digital EFX, you can still hear the Lush, WARM sounds of an Analog instrument. Why is this? Because Analog devices are literally pushing and pulling the electrical signal through all of it's components, which are getting warm, cooling, getting hot, expanding, shrinking (however miniscule)... it is an Entirely ORGANIC process, not one which has been simulated. Again, not talking any smack on digital devices. But there's a difference, and us "Purists" take a bit of "offense" to synth makers who create models that are issued at the same price as competitors with Analog Circuitry... (but they can do this, because 90% of the potential market buyers haven't been PURIFIED yet!) No, we simply wonder, "why would I spend 2000 bucks on something that's merely EMULATING X, Y, or Z instead?!" We see it as lazy and we want to PUSH larger manufacturers to create NEW, More Impressive Pheats than before! Because when they fail to, we simply harken back to the days of that Jupiter 4, those Mars or Saturn models, and go... "WTF?!... What the hell are you guys doing over there?! You have the capacity to ALTER THE FACE OF MUSIC, FOREVER... you have the ability to BRING LIFE TO Now Discontinued Legends at CHEAPER PRICES THAN EVER BEFORE, or MAKE MORE INSTRUMENTS THAT RIVAL THE FOREBEARS and here you are... doing THIS shit?!?!" It's a real hair-pulling thing, really.
I can't see your comment but digital synths can be made imprecise and analog sounding. It's not like all softsynths offer are just perfect saw waves. This seems to me a perspective of that who is too reliant on presets and doesn't tinker around with knobs too much. Any sharp sound be it hardware can also get fatiguing after a while. And today's softsynths are quite near their hardware counterparts. Maybe they're stuck in the early 2000s if they're still using the arguments from then.
@@bengsynthmusic "...today's softsynths are quite near their hardware counterparts... Maybe they're stuck in the early 2000s if they're still using the arguments from then." Today's latest digital synths can't get anywhere close. If they could, there'd be no need to pursue further analog development. Instead, we'd be happier than pigs in shit to download a VST that sounds Exactly, Picture-Perfectly like a Moog Voyager. In which case, that Voyager selling for 5,000 dollars would now be worth a mere few hundred.
@@lashtal Well for example OP-X Pro II sounds identical to OB-X. They have an A/B on their website with barely any difference. The Legend from Synapse Audio sounds nearly identical to Minimoog. There's a constant development to fix bugs and add features. And the advantage or softwares is they're always improving. As far as sound, it's not a compelling argument when considering the astronomical price difference. It's less about sound and more about a tangible object.
Wouldn’t mind actually seeing a video from one of these companies showing us how the sequencer works programming drums! Don’t care about the i arpeggio.
Maybe we can do a deeper dive into these aspects? I should mention that the arpeggiator is incredibly powerful and I just barely touched the surface. But yes, a look into sequencing is probably in order. Stay tuned!
Thanks for the demonstration. Neat synth. Chorus sounds nice. I'm wondering if the current generation of synths will be here 40 years from now. Especially with the subscription models. Remember when NI shit down their authentication servers ?
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The previous one had larger display which failed notoriously, so they used smaller screen in newer model 🤔
Received it yesterday, I just started watching your video so maybe the below review will change : It sounds great, but many of the patches are just the same one with different filters or settings, just like the horrible Juno D, G, Gi series, supposed to have "thousands of presets"when it was actually a few ones. The RD-Piano engine actually sounds like a Casio, thin and static. If you want more sounds guess what, you need to pay a subscription to Roland Cloud, come on, I paid $2,200 taxes included for this already !! I like the Preset model sounds tough, but again, if this machine has 4,000 sounds when it is actually the same one with different filters or configurations, I will return this, I prefer to spend the same on a vintage Roland Juno 106
The Juno-X looks like a good instrument, but it’s aimed at being a more synth-flavored performer keyboard, what with the rompler sound banks, the accompaniment functions and the speakers. What the synth nerds wanted was a Juno equivalent of the OB-X8, an analog mashup of all the classic Juno sounds. So they’re conflating “product aimed at a different audience” with “bad product.”
All TH-cam has no explanation on how to make a scene, jow to asign i instruments for part 1 2 3 etc. Manual is useless. One guy showd recording a scene but instruments wete already asigned before revirding the video.
Actually, I learned how to do all the stuff you mentioned by working through the reference manual. It took some practice to get the process straight. I've created about 50 custom patches just from following the manual.
I don't get it still. I don't want a 106 for its drum machine. So there's a load of workstation features I just don't need. Its basically a soft synth in a box, for the same price as a real one.
The drum is part 5, I've never used it or even noticed it. It's 4 synths in a box to be precise. You can play all 4 synths at once, split, or fire each on different midi channels. Try that on a 106. I tried on my Juno-60... you can't.
@@vaiman7777 Fair enough. Personally if they'd just remade the 106, analogue with some new features I would have been happier. That's just me though I guess. If it works for you, thats good.
@@DanCThorpe I know, many people wanted it too including me lol. But I do think it would be a tough sell in today’s market. They’d have to make it way cheaper to compete, and that wouldn’t make great business sense. Then you’d get people begging for every other past synth. I don’t like it, but I can see why they don’t.
The single negative factor for me is the cheap key bed. I have a Fantom 07 and it’s the worst key bed I’ve ever played and I paid almost $2k for it. The Juno X is the exact same key bed. Disappointed. Roland should’ve provided a better key bed which is a deal breaker.
Ridiculous price for essentially a plugin inside a case. It looks great overall, but please don't say it sounds analog. It does not. It should be around $800-1000.
“Plug-in in a box” and people who say that always makes me chuckle😂. I’ll use your logic for a sec. I could take a vst emulation of any analog synth and make it sound 99.999% identical with an eq and some effects. Any synth is a “vst in a box” if you have a basic understanding of an eq/processing. All that matters is the sound. Sounds great? Awesome. Who gives a shit how the sound is delivered? I sure don’t😂.
@@b2zap665I'm so glad you chuckle. "Any synth is a vst in a box"????? "99.999%" ??? What??? You have no idea what you are talking about. I suggest you read about analog vs digital synthesis. There's no need to lie and make up imaginary numbers just to prove your point. It seems like you just cannot tell the difference. There are ear training programs which can help you develop this skill. All the best.
@@ZenMountain *my bad, I meant to put 111% identical up there😎. really doesn’t take much work to make a digital emulation sound spot on to it’s analog counterpart. Eq is the most important, some saturation maybe some other fx. With the tech we have these days an analog synths really don’t stand up to it. Analog hardware is cool to have though.
It's a neat bit of kit, but I definitely feel you on the pricing. You can almost accomplish this with a used MIDI controller, an old laptop, and a couple plugins.
@@SPAZZOID100 Depends on a point of view. If you are rich, have the means, by all means, get the Moog One. In the eighties you had to be rich to get a Kurzweil 250 or Roland S-770. I'd personally take the 250 and S-770 over anything analog. As long as they are in brand new condition of course. As far as the Juno-X is concerned, it is incomparably better than Juno-106, Juno-60, or Juno-6. In fact, the Juno-X is as good as the Jupiter-X, except that it has a different interface. At $1,999, the Juno-X is an amazing deal.
@@dvamateur Absolutely. And the Jupiter X can do much more than any analog synth, modern or vintage. I have an OB-6 and I love the sound, but it is super limited in comparison with my Jupiter X. If you´re a musician, the sound palette and versatility is the most important thing. Does the Jupiter X sound the same as my analog OB-6? Is relative. Sometimes yes, sometimes no, but I can confirm that my X can do more than the OB-6. I can produce a whole track on my X, I can have sounds from the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s or ethereal modern sounds for ambient music, I can use a vocoder, I can have 4 synth models playing at the same time.... Possibilities on a digital synth are endless.
@@MaximilianoSchneider I quite liked when Mr. Dieter Döpfer.was asked whether Doepfer eurorack has a specific Doepfer sound. He said, no. Doepfer uses the same off the shelf components other manufacturers use these days. So there's no specific Doepfer sound. Does the Buchla has a specific sound? According to Suzanne Ciani, she doesn't even think in terms of sounds timbres when she performs the Buchla 200. It's all about performance, the sound flowing around in the quadrophonic field, the sequences, randomness (the uncertainly generator), etc. But then you have the Moog. Oh well, that one is about the sound. Ditto the Behringer 55, they use discrete components as opposed to integrate circuits. However, a square wave should be a square wave, whether produced in software by a Roland D-50, or coming from a sampled single cycle loop of a square wave, generated by an Atari computer, or generated by an Oberheim. All square waves should sound like Nintendo. If they don't, they are some soft of distorted square waves. So there you go. All things aside, though. I am more likely to buy your album done on the OB-6 than the Juno-X. I just think with the OB-6, you're trying harder. :)
@@dvamateur Well the thing with the OB is that it is limited with the amount of waveform it can produce, so I can try harder, but there are sounds impossible to produce on that synth. Polyphony is another limitation on the OB-6. I use the OB mostly on pads and maybe some bass or lead, but the Jupiter X has more waveforms and more oscillators and that gives me more freedom in so many ways. But yes, like you said, the important thing is the performance, and of course the artist playing these instruments. There are people making amazing music using Volcas or samples and people making boring things that you can't call music, with super expensive vintage analog synths. Synths are just musical instruments. I work on visual arts and when I was at the University, some people said that a really good camera will make amazing photos and is the most important thing for a visual artist, and I saw so many people with the most expensive cameras taking the most boring and technically horrible photos, and on the other side, people with a humble cheap phone camera taking beautiful photos with a perfect composition and balance, and of course, telling a story. Of course the cheap camera photo won't look as sharp as one taken with a better camera, but those photos were pure art and inspiration, and the other were just an example on how good quality photos an expensive camera can take. The artist is always the most important part :)
JUNO-X is a joke compared to the real DCO analog Behringer DeepMind which costs 1/3rd of the price and is much more powerful. I have lost all respect for Roland. And yeah, the DeepMind can do all the classic Juno sounds beautifully, just search on TH-cam for DeepMind Juno Presets.
The DeepMind never impressed me. If you turn off the effects, it just sounds pretty flat. Don’t get me wrong, Behringer does make some great synths, but the DeepMind just isn’t that great. It’s fine.
@@peterdowsett4737 What you said is not true. I own around 30 analog synths. If you turn off the effects on the DeepMind it sounds like any analog synth that does not have effects. But the awesome part about the DeepMind is you can modulate any of the digital FX parameters from the modulation matrix, which allows for even more unique possibilities. I have seen very few analog synths that can do anything like that. Search for Oscillator Sink's "Let's Build a DeepMind Generative Patch" video and you'll see how the digital FX parameters are interacting with the analog modulation feedback loop. It gets deep.
@@EulogyfortheAngels The DeepMind's build quality is perfect, I don't know what else to say. I've had problems with Waldorf build quality, but not the Behringer.
I have had mine about a week and I love it. I appreciate your basic tutorial. Please feel free to do more tutorials. Roland so far has not provided anything like what you just did in your demo. Thank you.
Nice!!! I have the Jupiter-X, which is basically the same engine, with different interface. Getting the Juno-X might be kind of redundant for me, but I still want the Juno-X. :)
@@dvamateur Absolutely same here. 🤔🤔🤔
Mine is on the way. Feel free to share or suggest any tutorials you find helpful. 😃
I was thinking of getting a used Juno-60 (w/midi) for almost $4k. But this seems much better, and sounds great.
4K is A LOT for a 106… you can find cheaper
@@JamesThomas-wf6qm He said Juno 60 not 106... but yes thats still a lot for a Juno 60.... the 106s are getting ridiculous to though.
It's a great synth, I don't have this but the Jupiter. Sounds amazing, most of all it's fun to play. Having the ability to play 4 synths standalone in a dawless setup is something most other synths can't offer.
Can we all please agree to stop using words like “DAWless?
@@LeslieDugger Why? If I’m not using a DAW. Much easier than writing… “in a setup where I don’t use a DAW on a computer”. Hope that helps you sleep better.
@@vaiman7777 sorry. Just being salty. Jam on.
@@LeslieDugger No problem, take care
I would like to know how it performs as a main midi keyboard in a producer studio setup, to control other synths in parallel with its own module. If it has easy access to midi channel change and stuff like that we do all the time on hybrid setups. Also if the sliders and knobs will work great on other roland cloud instruments (thats so important), like jupiter and maybe an Jx8P or whatever instrument we load from cloud. I even wanted to map an hardware MKS-50 rack module with it, this would be great.
As always Excellent contribution from Alamo Music, A deep analysis without being tedious and extensive. Waiting for another Juno X video. Greetings from South America.
I just bought one and I totally love this synth
Love the shirt. Industrial lives!
What an AMAZING demo and playing, thank you so much, loved the patch building from scratch!
What’s the difference between the Jupiter X and the Juno X
Have had mine about a month-I really like it. I have an HS60 that I'll likely be getting rid of as I am tired of dealing with the maintenance on a 40 yr old synth!
Hello guys. I just bought Juno-X but I see that my keyboard does not work and responds to After Touch. But I don't see anything related to this in the settings either. Isn't aftertouch the keyboard? as it says in the specifications!
It is possible that after you put a few notes in a pattern in the Step sequencer, instead of the pattern remaining with the fixed notes, it will work in another scale as well. like an arpeggiator? That is, to move up and down the scale? Because I can't find any function related to Pitch shift or something... or only fixed notes in pattern!
Definitely my next purchase, sound even better in person 🤯
Great video! My first Juno-x tutorial! Helped me learned the basics. Love my Juno-X. Now just need to learn how to use the scenes and layers.
Great Review!!! Convinced me to order one! I'm new to synths and there's a lot in this thing that I like. As a guitarist I won't buy more synths, vintage or new, or work with Plug ins on a pc. The Juno X seems to deliver a great package of good sounds I can use. You did some great vintage tones here while other reviewers seem to look for some cheesy 90ies techno/dancepop sounds you had me the second you turned the drive up :)
Can't wait to see CC's in depth video on TE's OP-1 Field in a few months!
A very good 101 in synthesis . thanks
Alphavile's FY pad was recorded on J8XP, there is a default preset for this
What a great exposition and presenter.👌🙂 Thanks for posting 🙂
I love that square wave.
Wax Trax!!! Now, THAT’S how you use synths!
Awesome video, appreciate this & agree with everything you said! Excellent quality little music college thing ya'll got goin - cool - thanks!
I like all the features the Juno X has compared to something basic like a Deepmind. Excellent synthesizer.
Deepmind and basic ROTFL, yeah... No.
I would like to know how it performs as a main midi keyboard in a producer studio setup, to control other synths in parallel with its own module. If it has easy access to midi channel change and stuff like that we do all the time on hybrid setups. Also if the sliders and knobs will work great on other roland cloud instruments (thats so important), like jupiter and maybe an Jx8P or whatever instrument we load from cloud. I even wanted to map an hardware MKS-50 rack module with it, this would be great.
I’m looking for a synth that could fit my tiny home studio. Being able to have so much sounds without turning on my computer is dope. The only doubt that remains is the internal memory capacity. Is it as limited as the Fantom 0? I wish I could combine several model expansions without having to free some memory space.
Does everything have to be analogue, NO. Long live Digital. 😀
Great point. I have a few digitals myself, and they all get a bit of love. One of my favorites is Waldorf's Blofeld. Tons of power and it's relatively affordable.
Digital is just as awesome analogue can't do what digital does and vice versa be easy on yourself as a musician and just treat them as two different sounds use both together an analogue and digital mate great together in a mix good results come with being open minded we usually shun the synths that end up helping us in the future
WOOO!!!! Sporting that Wax Trax! Shirt!!
KMFDM for the win.
Man. His comment about working outside of the box. I really do feel that way. I’m over sw synths, however, since I won’t be moving away from my computer entirely it makes sense. This is perfect for ppl who feel that way. I’m unsure about the analog feel that you mentioned, however, I’m entirely new to analog synthesis and don’t have much experience. I get what you mean but just haven’t done enough to get that feel you speak of.
I played with the Jupiter X for a while and my only complaint was that when I went to play with other models, I didn’t know what parameters could be controlled and which could not because I didn’t know those boards well. While you can twist or turn/ fade and see, that’s a real workflow killer. Don’t think I care for Fantom, but I’m sure that’s where I’ll end up in the future. Lol
The Juno 106 isn't analog, I've replaced the voice chips enough to verify this. Also on the Juno X in Juno (6, 60, 106) those are only 32poly.
Great video!
Can you please provide me advise on the following:
How do I setup the arpeggios on a Juno-X, so that they play independent from each other other multiple keyboard splits? I tried to setup keyboard ranges for each parts, but no matter what I do the arp's do not play independent. Play an arp on one split and it affects the arps on other split. It looks like the arps cannot be separated and are triggered by the entire keyboard, despite the key ranges. Thank you in advance.
I love my Juno-x
I'm with the other commenters on the Wax Trax! shirt! Early 242 and KMFDM is part of what got me into synths in the first place 🙂
dream come true
I changed the age and turned off the internal speakers.. but when I turn on/off the keyboard, I loose all the Systems settings. Any way to save the System settings so that the speakers stay off when I turn on the Juno X?
While you are in the system menu press the write button. It will ask if you are sure and it will save the system settings
Thanks for the demo, Chris! Did you also like the keybed on the new Juno X? I wonder how it compares to some other keybeds mechanically, especially - other Rolands. Have you tried the Jupiter X or Fantom and could you compare the keybeds with the Juno X? (I'm sure they would not have fitted it with some inferior keybed, as the instrument looks solid. Just checking... :>)) Thanks!
from what I understand the innards and the jack boards are the Exact same as a Jupiter-Xm and a Jupiter-X. Software/models is a bit different to run the exclusive Juno-x engine and Juno-60 model.
Hi Roland, please add a USB sequencer to pair with this that has the CV and Gate outs as well. I would absolutely buy a sequencer expander that also enabled more connectivity to modular.
how does this compare to the roland fantom 7?
I have a question about the aux in. If i have another synths can i send say my moog37 into the aux in and use the onboard efx on the juno? Almost using the junox effects as a pedalboard?
How do you program your own drum machines on this? 33:07
Oke, i did not understand well, is the sound production analogue or digital?
I don’t understand, If you have a preset sound and move around the faders…..how do you get back to the original sound after you moved the faders all over the place?
hell yeah, rocking that wax trax shirt
if they release a version without keys, then I will buy
Always down for rack or tabletop versions! I have a JP 8080 in my collection and it's still a contender at 24 years old!
What are you using for your drum sounds?
Why is there noise when the chorus buttons are on?
Nice Wax Trax! shirt =o]
Anyone knows how to switch between scenes seamlessly?
I want to ask anyone here. What do purists mean by "feel analog"? Is it subtle imperfection? Vinyl tone? Slow detune? Dirtiness and impurity?
"analog modeling", a phrase used to describe Digital Emulations of an Analog source. In my personal opinion, 90% of the non-musicians who listen to music wont be able to detect the difference, (especially if the Digital source is placed into a mix). The personal distaste I have for digital synths is they produce an amount of "Ear Fatigue", my ear becomes literally Tired of hearing it, and so I've personally associated (overbearing) Digital Synthesis with a negative mental association. Which isn't to say that Digital Synths are trash, far from it. In fact, Digital Synths that model analog sounds can be used to devastating affect musically. HOWEVER, if one were to listen to an entire playlist of ANALOG synths, and then compare to the sounds as found in this video... you will begin to refine your Ear Palette, and once you hear the difference, it's difficult to forget. As those amazing Analog sounds will stand out, and sound like Ear Orgasms, at times simply by Thinking about it.
For example, listen to this Analog Prophet 10 Rev 4: th-cam.com/video/cpa6ntGZ1oQ/w-d-xo.html&t
this Prophet 08: th-cam.com/video/OVr64fNaEK0/w-d-xo.html
or this Arturia Matrixbrute: th-cam.com/video/-mGlcCpf1-0/w-d-xo.html
despite the use of digital EFX, you can still hear the Lush, WARM sounds of an Analog instrument. Why is this? Because Analog devices are literally pushing and pulling the electrical signal through all of it's components, which are getting warm, cooling, getting hot, expanding, shrinking (however miniscule)... it is an Entirely ORGANIC process, not one which has been simulated.
Again, not talking any smack on digital devices. But there's a difference, and us "Purists" take a bit of "offense" to synth makers who create models that are issued at the same price as competitors with Analog Circuitry... (but they can do this, because 90% of the potential market buyers haven't been PURIFIED yet!) No, we simply wonder, "why would I spend 2000 bucks on something that's merely EMULATING X, Y, or Z instead?!" We see it as lazy and we want to PUSH larger manufacturers to create NEW, More Impressive Pheats than before! Because when they fail to, we simply harken back to the days of that Jupiter 4, those Mars or Saturn models, and go... "WTF?!... What the hell are you guys doing over there?! You have the capacity to ALTER THE FACE OF MUSIC, FOREVER... you have the ability to BRING LIFE TO Now Discontinued Legends at CHEAPER PRICES THAN EVER BEFORE, or MAKE MORE INSTRUMENTS THAT RIVAL THE FOREBEARS and here you are... doing THIS shit?!?!"
It's a real hair-pulling thing, really.
@@lashtal buddy you gotta go outside more. Touching grass will do you a world of good.
I can't see your comment but digital synths can be made imprecise and analog sounding. It's not like all softsynths offer are just perfect saw waves. This seems to me a perspective of that who is too reliant on presets and doesn't tinker around with knobs too much. Any sharp sound be it hardware can also get fatiguing after a while. And today's softsynths are quite near their hardware counterparts. Maybe they're stuck in the early 2000s if they're still using the arguments from then.
@@bengsynthmusic "...today's softsynths are quite near their hardware counterparts... Maybe they're stuck in the early 2000s if they're still using the arguments from then."
Today's latest digital synths can't get anywhere close. If they could, there'd be no need to pursue further analog development. Instead, we'd be happier than pigs in shit to download a VST that sounds Exactly, Picture-Perfectly like a Moog Voyager. In which case, that Voyager selling for 5,000 dollars would now be worth a mere few hundred.
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Well for example OP-X Pro II sounds identical to OB-X. They have an A/B on their website with barely any difference. The Legend from Synapse Audio sounds nearly identical to Minimoog. There's a constant development to fix bugs and add features. And the advantage or softwares is they're always improving. As far as sound, it's not a compelling argument when considering the astronomical price difference. It's less about sound and more about a tangible object.
Wouldn’t mind actually seeing a video from one of these companies showing us how the sequencer works programming drums! Don’t care about the i arpeggio.
Maybe we can do a deeper dive into these aspects? I should mention that the arpeggiator is incredibly powerful and I just barely touched the surface. But yes, a look into sequencing is probably in order. Stay tuned!
Same price as the Arturia Polybrute....thats a hard sell.
The Wax Trax shirt persuaded me to click .
Thanks for the demonstration. Neat synth. Chorus sounds nice. I'm wondering if the current generation of synths will be here 40 years from now. Especially with the subscription models. Remember when NI shit down their authentication servers ?
The previous one had larger display which failed notoriously, so they used smaller screen in newer model 🤔
Wheres Zack !? Zack Zack Zack Zack ! WE WANT ZACK !!!
I would buy one if I did not already have a Virus TI2 and Oberheim OB X8.
It should also have sync in and out.
Received it yesterday, I just started watching your video so maybe the below review will change :
It sounds great, but many of the patches are just the same one with different filters or settings, just like the horrible Juno D, G, Gi series, supposed to have "thousands of presets"when it was actually a few ones. The RD-Piano engine actually sounds like a Casio, thin and static. If you want more sounds guess what, you need to pay a subscription to Roland Cloud, come on, I paid $2,200 taxes included for this already !!
I like the Preset model sounds tough, but again, if this machine has 4,000 sounds when it is actually the same one with different filters or configurations, I will return this, I prefer to spend the same on a vintage Roland Juno 106
There are so many sounds in the different model banks. Almost too many
900 patches. Really? I thought option paralysis was only for VSTs.
The Juno-X looks like a good instrument, but it’s aimed at being a more synth-flavored performer keyboard, what with the rompler sound banks, the accompaniment functions and the speakers. What the synth nerds wanted was a Juno equivalent of the OB-X8, an analog mashup of all the classic Juno sounds. So they’re conflating “product aimed at a different audience” with “bad product.”
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All TH-cam has no explanation on how to make a scene, jow to asign i instruments for part 1 2 3 etc. Manual is useless. One guy showd recording a scene but instruments wete already asigned before revirding the video.
Actually, I learned how to do all the stuff you mentioned by working through the reference manual. It took some practice to get the process straight. I've created about 50 custom patches just from following the manual.
I don't get it still. I don't want a 106 for its drum machine. So there's a load of workstation features I just don't need. Its basically a soft synth in a box, for the same price as a real one.
The drum is part 5, I've never used it or even noticed it. It's 4 synths in a box to be precise. You can play all 4 synths at once, split, or fire each on different midi channels. Try that on a 106. I tried on my Juno-60... you can't.
@@vaiman7777 Fair enough. Personally if they'd just remade the 106, analogue with some new features I would have been happier. That's just me though I guess. If it works for you, thats good.
@@DanCThorpe I know, many people wanted it too including me lol. But I do think it would be a tough sell in today’s market. They’d have to make it way cheaper to compete, and that wouldn’t make great business sense. Then you’d get people begging for every other past synth. I don’t like it, but I can see why they don’t.
@@vaiman7777 I still use my Tal soft synth even though I have an Alpha. So I can't really talk.
Lol they didn’t add CV gimme a break
Vst in a box for 2000 💰
Fact
Nobody asked.
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with Jurgen Klopp
The single negative factor for me is the cheap key bed. I have a Fantom 07 and it’s the worst key bed I’ve ever played and I paid almost $2k for it. The Juno X is the exact same key bed. Disappointed.
Roland should’ve provided a better key bed which is a deal breaker.
What is a good Keybed for you? What keyboard have a good keybed that you like?
Ridiculous price for essentially a plugin inside a case. It looks great overall, but please don't say it sounds analog. It does not. It should be around $800-1000.
“Plug-in in a box” and people who say that always makes me chuckle😂. I’ll use your logic for a sec. I could take a vst emulation of any analog synth and make it sound 99.999% identical with an eq and some effects. Any synth is a “vst in a box” if you have a basic understanding of an eq/processing. All that matters is the sound. Sounds great? Awesome. Who gives a shit how the sound is delivered? I sure don’t😂.
@@b2zap665I'm so glad you chuckle.
"Any synth is a vst in a box"?????
"99.999%" ??? What??? You have no idea what you are talking about. I suggest you read about analog vs digital synthesis. There's no need to lie and make up imaginary numbers just to prove your point. It seems like you just cannot tell the difference. There are ear training programs which can help you develop this skill. All the best.
@@ZenMountain *my bad, I meant to put 111% identical up there😎. really doesn’t take much work to make a digital emulation sound spot on to it’s analog counterpart. Eq is the most important, some saturation maybe some other fx. With the tech we have these days an analog synths really don’t stand up to it. Analog hardware is cool to have though.
feeling mega ocd about this thing lol
It's a good video, informative and engaging.
It's just... I really wish you used the proper pronunciation of "arpeggiator". It's very distracting.
I don't think . People need go to school. Very easy. Thank you
The Juno X is fine I guess but it's waaaaaay too overpriced for what it is.
It's a neat bit of kit, but I definitely feel you on the pricing. You can almost accomplish this with a used MIDI controller, an old laptop, and a couple plugins.
The filter sweeps are nowhere near as juicy and fat as the real ones. It's like any patch that has filter movement is giving it away for me.
Who are you & what have you done with Zach?!........WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH 'EM?!
Much less interested in this sounding like an old synth and more interested in the new and modern sounds it can make.
Analog synthesizers were considered obsolete in the late '80s. So why beating the dead horse?
They were WRONG.
@@SPAZZOID100 Depends on a point of view. If you are rich, have the means, by all means, get the Moog One. In the eighties you had to be rich to get a Kurzweil 250 or Roland S-770. I'd personally take the 250 and S-770 over anything analog. As long as they are in brand new condition of course. As far as the Juno-X is concerned, it is incomparably better than Juno-106, Juno-60, or Juno-6. In fact, the Juno-X is as good as the Jupiter-X, except that it has a different interface. At $1,999, the Juno-X is an amazing deal.
@@dvamateur Absolutely. And the Jupiter X can do much more than any analog synth, modern or vintage. I have an OB-6 and I love the sound, but it is super limited in comparison with my Jupiter X. If you´re a musician, the sound palette and versatility is the most important thing. Does the Jupiter X sound the same as my analog OB-6? Is relative. Sometimes yes, sometimes no, but I can confirm that my X can do more than the OB-6. I can produce a whole track on my X, I can have sounds from the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s or ethereal modern sounds for ambient music, I can use a vocoder, I can have 4 synth models playing at the same time.... Possibilities on a digital synth are endless.
@@MaximilianoSchneider I quite liked when Mr. Dieter Döpfer.was asked whether Doepfer eurorack has a specific Doepfer sound. He said, no. Doepfer uses the same off the shelf components other manufacturers use these days. So there's no specific Doepfer sound. Does the Buchla has a specific sound? According to Suzanne Ciani, she doesn't even think in terms of sounds timbres when she performs the Buchla 200. It's all about performance, the sound flowing around in the quadrophonic field, the sequences, randomness (the uncertainly generator), etc. But then you have the Moog. Oh well, that one is about the sound. Ditto the Behringer 55, they use discrete components as opposed to integrate circuits. However, a square wave should be a square wave, whether produced in software by a Roland D-50, or coming from a sampled single cycle loop of a square wave, generated by an Atari computer, or generated by an Oberheim. All square waves should sound like Nintendo. If they don't, they are some soft of distorted square waves. So there you go. All things aside, though. I am more likely to buy your album done on the OB-6 than the Juno-X. I just think with the OB-6, you're trying harder. :)
@@dvamateur Well the thing with the OB is that it is limited with the amount of waveform it can produce, so I can try harder, but there are sounds impossible to produce on that synth. Polyphony is another limitation on the OB-6. I use the OB mostly on pads and maybe some bass or lead, but the Jupiter X has more waveforms and more oscillators and that gives me more freedom in so many ways. But yes, like you said, the important thing is the performance, and of course the artist playing these instruments. There are people making amazing music using Volcas or samples and people making boring things that you can't call music, with super expensive vintage analog synths. Synths are just musical instruments. I work on visual arts and when I was at the University, some people said that a really good camera will make amazing photos and is the most important thing for a visual artist, and I saw so many people with the most expensive cameras taking the most boring and technically horrible photos, and on the other side, people with a humble cheap phone camera taking beautiful photos with a perfect composition and balance, and of course, telling a story. Of course the cheap camera photo won't look as sharp as one taken with a better camera, but those photos were pure art and inspiration, and the other were just an example on how good quality photos an expensive camera can take. The artist is always the most important part :)
all synths sound bad on their own....
JUNO-X is a joke compared to the real DCO analog Behringer DeepMind which costs 1/3rd of the price and is much more powerful. I have lost all respect for Roland. And yeah, the DeepMind can do all the classic Juno sounds beautifully, just search on TH-cam for DeepMind Juno Presets.
The DeepMind never impressed me. If you turn off the effects, it just sounds pretty flat. Don’t get me wrong, Behringer does make some great synths, but the DeepMind just isn’t that great. It’s fine.
I've heard that Behringers are toys in terms of build quality - do you find that to be true?
@@peterdowsett4737 What you said is not true. I own around 30 analog synths. If you turn off the effects on the DeepMind it sounds like any analog synth that does not have effects. But the awesome part about the DeepMind is you can modulate any of the digital FX parameters from the modulation matrix, which allows for even more unique possibilities. I have seen very few analog synths that can do anything like that. Search for Oscillator Sink's "Let's Build a DeepMind Generative Patch" video and you'll see how the digital FX parameters are interacting with the analog modulation feedback loop. It gets deep.
@@EulogyfortheAngels The DeepMind's build quality is perfect, I don't know what else to say. I've had problems with Waldorf build quality, but not the Behringer.
Lol 😂 Wow….I like Behringer too but I’m not going to say any of that. Com’on Son!! All of the models on this…build quality…XLRs…no loud fan lol.