They each have their advantages and disadvantages versus each other. They share many of the same presets and share the very same 30-year-old samples used to build all those similar presets.
Love my DS in that the sliders are all Midi CC assignable , if these are too, it would push me over the edge. Would be a perfect midi controller even more than DS as class complaint. thanks
Fantom runs out with 4 layers? Not even my Juno-DS61 would, LOL These Zen-Core machines are all under-powered. I have MC-707, but I don't try pushing its polyphony, I have no need of that. When I want polyphony, my Juno has me covered.
The polyphony is 256 notes. The opening interlude had 7 layers activated simultaneously, with full chords and holding a sustain pedal while switching, with no notes dropping off.
How do you use Favorites? I've tried and it keeps going back to the first piano sound. Also how to I get the volume to display by each layered sound like you have?
First bring up what you want to save. Make your current patch or Scene or whatever what you want to save. Then press and hold Favorites. Then press and hold a Category button at the same time to assign it to that button, you will get a notification confirming that the Scene or whatever is saved to that button. You can do this on any Roland keyboard with a Favorites button.
@ thanks. Did it exactly as you said and it still doesn’t work. Local sales person said there might be a glitch in this one I bought two weeks ago and to bring it in.
I'm very interested in picking this up at L&M, one question I haven't heard is if it can be charged by iPhone/iPad? I know power bank. but now uSB C iPad/iPad with thunderbolt. thanks
No it doesn't, the intro demo has several patch changes and different layers brought in, and the sound is not being cut off. Also check 6:38 for another demo where David starts with a pad and switches to a synth patch.
been looking for info on this. There doesn't seem to be "patch perform" anymore, which allowed a very intricate keyboard splitting/layering presets. Does the "scene" replace the performance patch? Are they the same thing? Or can you no longer save things like the performance patches on the old DS?
"Scene" replaces "Performance", most of the same functionality, but only 8 parts instead of 16, and one of the 8 is drums and cannot be switched. However, Juno-D gets per-part EQ + MFX, which Juno-DS lacks. If this and Roland Cloud integration do not matter to you, then ignore Juno-D.
The Scene mode allows for all the functions you will require, including layering and splitting of up to 8 sounds. This eliminates the complication of switching between modes and makes it simpler to use, especially during a live performance.
Can you set a point on the keyboard how far you want the layer to play?like maybe halfway or 3/4 up the keyboard? I know the nord stage 4 will do this.
Если честно, то Roland пора уже составить конкуренцию не на рынке рабочих станций, а на рынке аранжировочных станций, где Roland существенно отстал. А по рабочим станциям это несомненный лидер.
Do scene 2 sounds take 2 seconds to load properly after switching from scene 1 without using the sustain pedal? - The Fantom-0 takes 2 seconds to rightly/fully load the new scene. - The older Roland Juno DS switches instantly. What about this one? Also, does it have "scene chains" like the Fantom? If not, how many favourite sets can it host?
Switching is instantenous between scenes, and with the "Scene Remain" function the transition is very smooth. You can save 128 scenes in the user bank. FANTOM-0 needs to have "Scene Remain ON" for the sound to hold over, there is no delay when going from Scene to Scene.
@@longandmcquade There is a 2 seconds delay when loading the next scene. Unless you press HOLD + play a long chord with the left hand, then press NEXT scene WHILE maintaining the left chord but that is not instant. It is misleading. The Juno DS has no loading times, the Fandom-0 has. Unless they fixed it in an update. Which I don't know
hi David, if I connect my ipad or mac to juno-d by usb-c,can i use the juno's keyboard to send midi signal to my DAW?and then DAW send back the audio to juno-d? If I turn on all 7 channels in juno-d, can I hear the DAW's audio and 7 internal channels' audios at the same time?
Hi, thanks for the heads up. The links were correct, but the products weren't activated on our site so they were showing as unavailable. We've made the change and the links are working now.
@@Jason75913 Fact is, there is no multitrack audio recorder on this device period. Fantom G and the X had it. That's why they both were so popular with music artists. Roland lost the plot by omitting such an important part of the music making process," VOCALS", by not including an audio recorder and that's a fact
@@Hka... No entry level Roland pro keyboard has ever had an audio recorder, and that's a fact. Korg Kross2 is the very first to get one from among entry level pro keyboards. Roland's Fantom-0, 2019 Fantom, and FA keyboards have audio recording.
As mentioned in the opening remarks, there are some major improvements from the Juno-DS series; A new color LCD screen, new and much easier workflow, The Scene Remain function for smoother transitions, new synth action (full size keys from the Fantom-0 series), new sound engine (Zen Core) with double the polyphony (256), new connectivity abilities (connect to any device using the USB-C connection), the ability to power with a USB-C battery pack or even a laptop, it's lighter to carry, and it has LCD backlit category buttons as well as a step sequencer.
It is very different. The JUNO-60 and 106 were analog synthesizers. The Juno-D is a modern performance machine based on sampling and modelling. It bridges the gap between a stage piano and a workstation.
G R E E T I N G S.....My little question is.. WHY does Roland keep using JV 1080, JV 2080 XV 3080 Brass sounds in every NEW workstation keyboard they come up with. Zen Core sounds in a new Juno D must NOT include JV 1010 brass sounds. It's quite embarrassing.
All the Zen-core synths reuse JV1080/XV5080/et al. sounds. Same goes for everything pre-Zen-core of the last 30 years. Zen-core is basically the JV1080 and Jupiter-80 engines fused into one, with some neat extras on top. But the sample ROMs are 30 years old. 🤦♀️ You can still get badass sounds out of Zen-Core of all kinds, and beyond what all previous Roland ROMplers could do. I just wish the sample ROMs weren't so lo-fi. And it is not like they can't do better, they do stick higher fidelity samples in RD-88 for certain acoustic sounds, especially the main "Concert Grand" patch of that RD. EXP-11 for Integra-7 and FA-06 contains hi-fi synth samples. They probably just need to be pressured into upping their game harder by Korg, Yamaha, Kurzweil, Akai, Arturia, and (eventually) Native Instruments.
One reason to upgrade will be that now has class compliant aUSB audio if you want to use iPad or iPhone. And powered by USB are cool functional changes.
As mentioned in the opening remarks, there are some major improvements from the Juno-DS series; A new color LCD screen, new and much easier workflow, The Scene Remain function for smoother transitions, new synth action ( full size keys from the Fantom-0 series), new sound engine (Zen Core) with double the polyphone (256), new connectivity abilities( connect to any device using the USB-C connection), the ability to power with a USB-C battery pack or even a laptop, it's lighter to carry, and it has LCD backlit category buttons as well as a step sequencer.
The Juno D is designed with physical knobs for all the functions, which is more reliable for live performances than a touch screen. Because a touch screen is very sensitive, you may need to press a function in a very specific way and several times to activate it, where a physical knob always works the first time you press it, which gives you peace of mind during a performance.
To sell you Zen-core sound packs via Roland Cloud. Fantom-0 has a lot more features, and the flagship Fantom has even more. Previous workstations all shared the same "PCM engine" derived from the Fantom X.
I love your musical introduction!
What an excellent walk-through of the updated Juno-D. I want one! Thanks so much!
Bought one today, I was lucky to find one in Victoria BC, but am very happy. Great video
How do you like it?does it have a real good piano alone preset?
@@robertmichalscheck3072 I love it, but lots to learn.
The preset isn’t like the RD series where a single button in designated to piano
I was literally in the process of trying out a DS61, and now I’m going to wait for this one to become available at Long & Mcquade.
They each have their advantages and disadvantages versus each other. They share many of the same presets and share the very same 30-year-old samples used to build all those similar presets.
Cool!!! .......Sounds and Looks Great!! ... The USB Power support is awesome!!
Great Demo, as always, Synth sounds and Pads are amazing! I need to add one to my live rig.
Thanks Axel!
nice demo how about showing scenes and building songs etc also?
Great keyboard great sound Quality Juno ds61. Fantom G6 X6 XA Serial his Excellent sound Quality
Sounds great ❤
Is there tone cutting problem on memory registration, please in detail sir
Love my DS in that the sliders are all Midi CC assignable , if these are too, it would push me over the edge. Would be a perfect midi controller even more than DS as class complaint. thanks
Why is the polyphony a secret?! On the Fantom 6 I can run out of polyphony on 4 layers.
Right. What is the polyphony limitation. Especially on a 7-layer patch
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Fantom runs out with 4 layers? Not even my Juno-DS61 would, LOL
These Zen-Core machines are all under-powered. I have MC-707, but I don't try pushing its polyphony, I have no need of that. When I want polyphony, my Juno has me covered.
The polyphony is 256 notes. The opening interlude had 7 layers activated simultaneously, with full chords and holding a sustain pedal while switching, with no notes dropping off.
@@longandmcquade
Might depend on the amount of partials used as well. My friend seems disapointed with the polyphony.
any way to midi 16 sounds at once?
What speakers would you recommend to buy for this machine for home only usage?
For home use we'd recommend headphones for silent practice. But if you want it amplified out loud, we'd recommend any set of studio monitors.
How do you use Favorites? I've tried and it keeps going back to the first piano sound. Also how to I get the volume to display by each layered sound like you have?
First bring up what you want to save. Make your current patch or Scene or whatever what you want to save.
Then press and hold Favorites. Then press and hold a Category button at the same time to assign it to that button, you will get a notification confirming that the Scene or whatever is saved to that button.
You can do this on any Roland keyboard with a Favorites button.
@ thanks. Did it exactly as you said and it still doesn’t work. Local sales person said there might be a glitch in this one I bought two weeks ago and to bring it in.
I'm very interested in picking this up at L&M, one question I haven't heard is if it can be charged by iPhone/iPad? I know power bank. but now uSB C iPad/iPad with thunderbolt. thanks
No, it can only be powered by a computer, laptop or USB-C battery pack.
How does this compare to the Korg Kross 2?
Does the sound abruptly cut off during the patch change? It sounds like that!!
No it doesn't, the intro demo has several patch changes and different layers brought in, and the sound is not being cut off. Also check 6:38 for another demo where David starts with a pad and switches to a synth patch.
Hey my Juno -D doesn’t produce a sound as a use.I need help
Добавлю ещё. Мне при игре очень не хватает педали с режимом Cutoff. Почему нельзя хотя бы назначить жту функцию для педали Roland EV-5?
been looking for info on this. There doesn't seem to be "patch perform" anymore, which allowed a very intricate keyboard splitting/layering presets. Does the "scene" replace the performance patch? Are they the same thing? Or can you no longer save things like the performance patches on the old DS?
"Scene" replaces "Performance", most of the same functionality, but only 8 parts instead of 16, and one of the 8 is drums and cannot be switched. However, Juno-D gets per-part EQ + MFX, which Juno-DS lacks. If this and Roland Cloud integration do not matter to you, then ignore Juno-D.
The Scene mode allows for all the functions you will require, including layering and splitting of up to 8 sounds. This eliminates the complication of switching between modes and makes it simpler to use, especially during a live performance.
Can you set a point on the keyboard how far you want the layer to play?like maybe halfway or 3/4 up the keyboard? I know the nord stage 4 will do this.
yes
@@Jason75913I hope so,have you played this keyboard?
Will saved files and songs from juno ds transfer to the juno d using usb?
nope
Если честно, то Roland пора уже составить конкуренцию не на рынке рабочих станций, а на рынке аранжировочных станций, где Roland существенно отстал. А по рабочим станциям это несомненный лидер.
Do scene 2 sounds take 2 seconds to load properly after switching from scene 1 without using the sustain pedal?
- The Fantom-0 takes 2 seconds to rightly/fully load the new scene.
- The older Roland Juno DS switches instantly.
What about this one?
Also, does it have "scene chains" like the Fantom? If not, how many favourite sets can it host?
Switching is instantenous between scenes, and with the "Scene Remain" function the transition is very smooth. You can save 128 scenes in the user bank. FANTOM-0 needs to have "Scene Remain ON" for the sound to hold over, there is no delay when going from Scene to Scene.
@@longandmcquade There is a 2 seconds delay when loading the next scene. Unless you press HOLD + play a long chord with the left hand, then press NEXT scene WHILE maintaining the left chord but that is not instant. It is misleading. The Juno DS has no loading times, the Fandom-0 has. Unless they fixed it in an update. Which I don't know
what is the boot time?
About 5 seconds.
Where is the master transpose located?
Transpose and Octave switching buttons are located in the KEYBOARD section on the bottom left side of the panel.
What‘s the song at 6:00 ?
Paul Simon - You Can Call Me Al
I was waiting for him to play a wicked slap bass after that!
Have it the SCAIL NOTE ?
Yes it does!
Drum patterns sound a lot better than the DS
It looks to be inherited from FA series.
hi David, if I connect my ipad or mac to juno-d by usb-c,can i use the juno's keyboard to send midi signal to my DAW?and then DAW send back the audio to juno-d?
If I turn on all 7 channels in juno-d, can I hear the DAW's audio and 7 internal channels' audios at the same time?
USB Audio is two way and stereo only. MC-707 is multi-channel, and Fantom and Fantom-0 also do multi-channel USB audio, if I'm not mistaken.
Сколько стоит?
Fae Junction
Your links to the product don’t go to the correct product
Hi, thanks for the heads up. The links were correct, but the products weren't activated on our site so they were showing as unavailable. We've made the change and the links are working now.
A song writers dream!!!! Except! There's no onboard audio recorder to record vocals. Roland! Get your act together.
MV-1, MC-707, Fantom-0, SP-404mk2, _not_ Juno-D 2024 or Juno-D 2005
Surely that's not true. There's a mic input. Why have it if you don't record?
@@salmanshami mic/guitar inputs in gear are far more common than audio recording
@@Jason75913 Fact is, there is no multitrack audio recorder on this device period. Fantom G and the X had it. That's why they both were so popular with music artists. Roland lost the plot by omitting such an important part of the music making process," VOCALS", by not including an audio recorder and that's a fact
@@Hka... No entry level Roland pro keyboard has ever had an audio recorder, and that's a fact. Korg Kross2 is the very first to get one from among entry level pro keyboards.
Roland's Fantom-0, 2019 Fantom, and FA keyboards have audio recording.
Doesn’t look any different than the DS61
As mentioned in the opening remarks, there are some major improvements from the Juno-DS series; A new color LCD screen, new and much easier workflow, The Scene Remain function for smoother transitions, new synth action (full size keys from the Fantom-0 series), new sound engine (Zen Core) with double the polyphony (256), new connectivity abilities (connect to any device using the USB-C connection), the ability to power with a USB-C battery pack or even a laptop, it's lighter to carry, and it has LCD backlit category buttons as well as a step sequencer.
SO is this loke a Juno-60 a JUNO-106
It is very different. The JUNO-60 and 106 were analog synthesizers. The Juno-D is a modern performance machine based on sampling and modelling. It bridges the gap between a stage piano and a workstation.
G R E E T I N G S.....My little question is..
WHY does Roland keep using JV 1080, JV 2080 XV 3080 Brass sounds in every NEW workstation keyboard they come up with. Zen Core sounds in a new Juno D must NOT include JV 1010 brass sounds. It's quite embarrassing.
All the Zen-core synths reuse JV1080/XV5080/et al. sounds. Same goes for everything pre-Zen-core of the last 30 years.
Zen-core is basically the JV1080 and Jupiter-80 engines fused into one, with some neat extras on top. But the sample ROMs are 30 years old. 🤦♀️
You can still get badass sounds out of Zen-Core of all kinds, and beyond what all previous Roland ROMplers could do.
I just wish the sample ROMs weren't so lo-fi. And it is not like they can't do better, they do stick higher fidelity samples in RD-88 for certain acoustic sounds, especially the main "Concert Grand" patch of that RD. EXP-11 for Integra-7 and FA-06 contains hi-fi synth samples. They probably just need to be pressured into upping their game harder by Korg, Yamaha, Kurzweil, Akai, Arturia, and (eventually) Native Instruments.
If fantom or xps
is all ready in the market why roland launching this
no one need this one
The Fantom is a more complex machine designed for studio work and very elaborate live performances. The Juno is designed for simplicity .
No reason to upgrade if you have a Ds. Unless you want crappy zen core digital sounds
Were the sounds in the DS analog? Had a DS before and loved the workflow. The sound was great too
One reason to upgrade will be that now has class compliant aUSB audio if you want to use iPad or iPhone. And powered by USB are cool functional changes.
As mentioned in the opening remarks, there are some major improvements from the Juno-DS series; A new color LCD screen, new and much easier workflow, The Scene Remain function for smoother transitions, new synth action ( full size keys from the Fantom-0 series), new sound engine (Zen Core) with double the polyphone (256), new connectivity abilities( connect to any device using the USB-C connection), the ability to power with a USB-C battery pack or even a laptop, it's lighter to carry, and it has LCD backlit category buttons as well as a step sequencer.
@@longandmcquade one thing hasn't been tested if the phone or iPad can power and use it from the iPad
I like my d50 better
Touchscreen?😂😂
Time waste..
The Juno D is designed with physical knobs for all the functions, which is more reliable for live performances than a touch screen. Because a touch screen is very sensitive, you may need to press a function in a very specific way and several times to activate it, where a physical knob always works the first time you press it, which gives you peace of mind during a performance.
Well, is this Zencore an uniformizaton now, to make no difference between Roland's instruments? 🫤
To sell you Zen-core sound packs via Roland Cloud. Fantom-0 has a lot more features, and the flagship Fantom has even more.
Previous workstations all shared the same "PCM engine" derived from the Fantom X.