One thing I forgot to mention is during the section where I talk about the WR2 setup, it isn’t the easiest thing to do, the WR2 is tight and if you do not get it immediately practice because once you get the timing down it will beat any mash on wake-up.
Thank you so much for this dude, I've been using all the new optimal routes but I haven't seen or used the WR2 Oki. This is excellent thank you. Everyone mashes on wake up online
@@sean5048 glad you enjoyed it, like I did mention the WR2 setup is a tight link to get to work but with practice you can get it. I still mess it up from time to time but when it works it makes your opponent think twice to mashing on wake up. DB4 as well will beat mashing if someone wakeups with a high DB4 will crush it leading to another counter hit combo
@@Lotus_awakening I used stick since the beginning of getting into fighting games, so about 15 years. I transitioned to lever less and got my brother too about a year ago. I play a lot so the adjustment was fast, I don't think I'll ever go back to stick for anything except MVC. I love it for Tekken.
@@playerlefty2854 I appreciate that, I try my best to make it not seem so overwhelming while I’m still getting used to doing these styled videos like this.
I managed to reach Raijin with ya boi Victor and I'm still learning. This video was extremely helpful. I can't believe it took me this long to find you, dude.
@@dannyrpt appreciate the comment, always love helping others take their game to the next level. Congrats on the Raijin rank can’t wait to see ya advance more!!
Hello, I'm a fellow Victor main (Tekken King) and I have some wall setups I haven't seen talked about that I think can make his wall pressure even more difficult to deal with. The way it works is when Victor is +3f near a wall he has access to a few jab trade punish setups using u1 / iai1. Now these 2 moves are i13, so when you are +3f, they will trade with i10 and leave you at +10f, which means you get a guaranteed 112 punish (27 dmg). There are a few moves that can give you the +3 setup and they are: u1d (hit) / iai1+2 (block) / iai4 (hit) / 112 (hit). Now here's where it gets even more fun. If you notice, you'll see the 112 trade punish also happens to be one of the setups that gives you the +3f to begin with, which means, you can actually loop into another u1 trade punish if they press! So to recap, here's a little flowchart I made for Victor's Trade Punish setups (near wall): - u1d (hit) > iai1 (trade) > 112 - iai4 (hit) > iai1 (trade) > 112 - iai1+2 (block) > u1 (trade) > 112 - 112 (hit) > u1 (trade) > 112 (loop)
@@Lotus_awakeningYea so between this and his wall sword oki, it makes his sword mix really confusing to deal with making Victor really dangerous at the wall
@@hai5653 appreciate the comment, I am glad this was able to push you ahead a little bit more in your journey for ranked. More victor videos like this and gameplay is coming soon!!!
it's an interesting insight, as a vic main i sometimes think his moves and buttons are quite meh, but when you see it d4 has ch db4 has ch 1+2 has ch b2 have ch b4 have ch and many more i might look at victor as a counter hit character now with some utility
@@rakunbuncit2324 yeah B2 and B4 I didn’t talk about as much since I’ve barely used them as I got closer to higher ranks, don’t get me wrong they are still fantastic counter hit tools, just doesn’t do what the others ya know
btw on the wall, after 21 perf22 into iai, you can move back a little for 1, timing your opp if they gonna ukemi so iaid2 can bounce them back to wall to reset the iai pressure 2. better alignment with your opp after iaid2
For the wall carry combo at 7 minutes in, you can get 92 damage with heat if after the CH do WR2 into df4, 2, into 4, 2, DB 1, 1, into perfumer 2, 2, into lai stance 2, dash heat activation, DB1, 1, into perfumer 3 heat dash, U 1+2!
Funny how after your last 2 videos I smoothly hit Raijin with only single lost set. Previous attempt put me into huge lose streak and tilt that I dropped down to freaking Flame Ruler. I had a huge problem with overcommitting into offense but idk somehow after few of your advices (especially from previous video) I managed to play way more calmly. Also thanks for wall setup advices, I was often struggling with applying proper pressure there.
@@bruhbruh5725 love to hear stuff like this, a lot of ppl think you need to play high octane with Victor and while he has strong pressure and mixups and he is a high risk low reward character. Top level victors abuse more of his counter hits, whiff punishing, poking game that is when Victor can get super annoying on top of the him having a strong heat game as well. I will always say take it slow with him and abuse your good mids and frustrate your opponent. Chipping away at your opponent will make them over extend and give you a big counter hit where Victor can then get his big damage. It also teaches you better defense and then you’ll be able to really be a force not just with Victor but any character in Tekken.
@@Lotus_awakening yeah I used to mostly watch how Meo Il plays and took a dozen of tricks from him but ultimately I was shooting myself in the foot by often mentally entering the state where I just think "I've gotta do this perfumer mixup, I've gotta do this iai trick asap" instead of following more level-headed neutral engaging. The huge toxicity of playerbase (at least for my region) in blue ranks also didn't really help to keep calm. And I guess before 1.05 powercrush and explusion used to save my ass more often during this flawed approach to Victor.
it will come, I just have not had the urge to play Ranked since I have been focusing on other things for content. You will see Victor gameplay very soon though I promise.
I've downloaded the patch only recently and man it's kind of a readjustment ngl. They Some how made it harder to input QCF2 to get the bullet out. It's almost a while Crouching move now, that was my most valuable keepout tool, now it feels like a handicap. How do you play keepout now?
@@mohammedabdallah403 there are other tools to keep your opponent out with Victor, U2 is really good, D3 long range low poke, 3 1+2 is really good for controlling space, F1+2 super far mid but bad on whiff so be careful, DF2 is always been good to control space and keep the opponent from coming in, DB4 is a unsafe low but high crushes and provides you a lot of counter play when someone throws out a high. If you want better explanation check out the last video I did where I go over victors best buttons to use and my personal gameplan with him now
For this Victor noob playing in low ranks(Tenryu atm) against mashers db4 has been AMAZING. I get at least one ch launch per round. Honestly it feels like cheating 😅
@@danpoe4166 we all start somewhere I was in your position when the game first came out and as I practiced more understanding Victor got easier. Hope you found use from this video. Always trying to get other players better at the game they play so we can all become better Tekken players!!!
@@Kai-lp5ej there are two moves that allow you to go into stance first setup you saw at the wall is 21 press forward on the Dpad after you press forward it will put you into perfumer then you press 22 which will then put you in iai stance. The second setup is F41 then you press 1+2 to go into iai stance
@@BransonLowman I did as well, I used it way too much. That’s why I realized I should only be using it when I know my opponent is going to do a high. We have mediocre lows as it is, but we still have good enough mids to contest. DB4 is only a counter hit tool strictly imo
One thing I forgot to mention is during the section where I talk about the WR2 setup, it isn’t the easiest thing to do, the WR2 is tight and if you do not get it immediately practice because once you get the timing down it will beat any mash on wake-up.
Thank you so much for this dude, I've been using all the new optimal routes but I haven't seen or used the WR2 Oki. This is excellent thank you. Everyone mashes on wake up online
@@sean5048 glad you enjoyed it, like I did mention the WR2 setup is a tight link to get to work but with practice you can get it. I still mess it up from time to time but when it works it makes your opponent think twice to mashing on wake up. DB4 as well will beat mashing if someone wakeups with a high DB4 will crush it leading to another counter hit combo
@@Lotus_awakening I use a lever less and I can hit it really consistently now after practicing since I commented! Thanks for this!
@@sean5048 I use Pad how good is lever less for tekken?
@@Lotus_awakening I used stick since the beginning of getting into fighting games, so about 15 years. I transitioned to lever less and got my brother too about a year ago. I play a lot so the adjustment was fast, I don't think I'll ever go back to stick for anything except MVC. I love it for Tekken.
these videos are actually structured very well and easy to consume shoutout you for helping us victors out
@@playerlefty2854 I appreciate that, I try my best to make it not seem so overwhelming while I’m still getting used to doing these styled videos like this.
I managed to reach Raijin with ya boi Victor and I'm still learning. This video was extremely helpful. I can't believe it took me this long to find you, dude.
@@dannyrpt appreciate the comment, always love helping others take their game to the next level. Congrats on the Raijin rank can’t wait to see ya advance more!!
I am your 300th subscriber. You are making pretty good content. Keep rising. All the very best
@@coolsaurabh97 I appreciate it so much I will continue to do my best!!!
man this is going to make my lads seethe even more thanks bruv doin gods work
I got you!!!
Damn, Victor without a beard is scary ! Really looks like a killer.
@@Hollowed2wiz oh Victor is a scary man without a beard 😂
What he looks like is sexy AF.
Hello, I'm a fellow Victor main (Tekken King) and I have some wall setups I haven't seen talked about that I think can make his wall pressure even more difficult to deal with.
The way it works is when Victor is +3f near a wall he has access to a few jab trade punish setups using u1 / iai1. Now these 2 moves are i13, so when you are +3f, they will trade with i10 and leave you at +10f, which means you get a guaranteed 112 punish (27 dmg). There are a few moves that can give you the +3 setup and they are: u1d (hit) / iai1+2 (block) / iai4 (hit) / 112 (hit).
Now here's where it gets even more fun. If you notice, you'll see the 112 trade punish also happens to be one of the setups that gives you the +3f to begin with, which means, you can actually loop into another u1 trade punish if they press!
So to recap, here's a little flowchart I made for Victor's Trade Punish setups (near wall):
- u1d (hit) > iai1 (trade) > 112
- iai4 (hit) > iai1 (trade) > 112
- iai1+2 (block) > u1 (trade) > 112
- 112 (hit) > u1 (trade) > 112 (loop)
@@Arredo515 I have seen some talk about this before but I have to start implementing that cause there is a lot of dirt behind it
@@Lotus_awakeningYea so between this and his wall sword oki, it makes his sword mix really confusing to deal with making Victor really dangerous at the wall
super helpful video! I was stuck in raijin but got to kishin cause I implemented some of the stuff in this vid. Keep these coming please.
@@hai5653 appreciate the comment, I am glad this was able to push you ahead a little bit more in your journey for ranked. More victor videos like this and gameplay is coming soon!!!
Just about a week into learning Victor, that wr2 setup is definitely interesting. Thank you for the guide!
@@improvisedpizza8557 the setup is really cool there are just so many layers to it, I love it
Love this channel.. This is where I get my Victor content.. Thanks for giving us the knowledge.
@@sharma4826 I appreciate it, never thought I’d be the one that you watch for the content, it means a lot
"L.A" we love the content sir. always fresh & well explained keep up the good work champ.
@@RobC2201_ appreciate you as always!!
it's an interesting insight, as a vic main i sometimes think his moves and buttons are quite meh, but when you see it
d4 has ch
db4 has ch
1+2 has ch
b2 have ch
b4 have ch
and many more
i might look at victor as a counter hit character now with some utility
@@rakunbuncit2324 yeah B2 and B4 I didn’t talk about as much since I’ve barely used them as I got closer to higher ranks, don’t get me wrong they are still fantastic counter hit tools, just doesn’t do what the others ya know
btw
on the wall, after 21 perf22 into iai, you can move back a little for
1, timing your opp if they gonna ukemi so iaid2 can bounce them back to wall to reset the iai pressure
2. better alignment with your opp after iaid2
@@rakunbuncit2324 good to know
For the wall carry combo at 7 minutes in, you can get 92 damage with heat if after the CH do WR2 into df4, 2, into 4, 2, DB 1, 1, into perfumer 2, 2, into lai stance 2, dash heat activation, DB1, 1, into perfumer 3 heat dash, U 1+2!
It's the same as the CH combo for DB4! Love this video, come back to it every week to refresh my memory on set ups!
I enjoy your vids man, keep them coming!
@@jaxkuna Appreciate the kind words The Honored one Gojo himself 👉🔴🔵👈🤞🤌🫴🟣
Funny how after your last 2 videos I smoothly hit Raijin with only single lost set. Previous attempt put me into huge lose streak and tilt that I dropped down to freaking Flame Ruler. I had a huge problem with overcommitting into offense but idk somehow after few of your advices (especially from previous video) I managed to play way more calmly. Also thanks for wall setup advices, I was often struggling with applying proper pressure there.
@@bruhbruh5725 love to hear stuff like this, a lot of ppl think you need to play high octane with Victor and while he has strong pressure and mixups and he is a high risk low reward character. Top level victors abuse more of his counter hits, whiff punishing, poking game that is when Victor can get super annoying on top of the him having a strong heat game as well. I will always say take it slow with him and abuse your good mids and frustrate your opponent. Chipping away at your opponent will make them over extend and give you a big counter hit where Victor can then get his big damage. It also teaches you better defense and then you’ll be able to really be a force not just with Victor but any character in Tekken.
@@Lotus_awakening yeah I used to mostly watch how Meo Il plays and took a dozen of tricks from him but ultimately I was shooting myself in the foot by often mentally entering the state where I just think "I've gotta do this perfumer mixup, I've gotta do this iai trick asap" instead of following more level-headed neutral engaging. The huge toxicity of playerbase (at least for my region) in blue ranks also didn't really help to keep calm. And I guess before 1.05 powercrush and explusion used to save my ass more often during this flawed approach to Victor.
@@bruhbruh5725check out farzeen arguably the best Victor rn and he’s the one who I look at for my Victor stuff and how to improve it
@@Lotus_awakening yep, I've been watching him, Rosub and Ao to the lesser extent too. Thanks for advice
Please can u tell me how to go into EI stance while running 2
I didn't understand the video can u tell me the keys
Please reply ❤❤
We need more gameplaysss
it will come, I just have not had the urge to play Ranked since I have been focusing on other things for content. You will see Victor gameplay very soon though I promise.
@@Lotus_awakening heardd u , love da content regardless 🧌
I've downloaded the patch only recently and man it's kind of a readjustment ngl. They Some how made it harder to input QCF2 to get the bullet out. It's almost a while Crouching move now, that was my most valuable keepout tool, now it feels like a handicap. How do you play keepout now?
@@mohammedabdallah403 there are other tools to keep your opponent out with Victor, U2 is really good, D3 long range low poke, 3 1+2 is really good for controlling space, F1+2 super far mid but bad on whiff so be careful, DF2 is always been good to control space and keep the opponent from coming in, DB4 is a unsafe low but high crushes and provides you a lot of counter play when someone throws out a high. If you want better explanation check out the last video I did where I go over victors best buttons to use and my personal gameplan with him now
@@Lotus_awakening GGs man, guess it's time to adapt and improvise
@@mohammedabdallah403 always have to adapt
For this Victor noob playing in low ranks(Tenryu atm) against mashers db4 has been AMAZING. I get at least one ch launch per round. Honestly it feels like cheating 😅
@@danpoe4166 we all start somewhere I was in your position when the game first came out and as I practiced more understanding Victor got easier. Hope you found use from this video. Always trying to get other players better at the game they play so we can all become better Tekken players!!!
What is the 2 hit move he uses to go into stance in the wall carry section
@@Kai-lp5ej there are two moves that allow you to go into stance first setup you saw at the wall is 21 press forward on the Dpad after you press forward it will put you into perfumer then you press 22 which will then put you in iai stance. The second setup is F41 then you press 1+2 to go into iai stance
@@Lotus_awakeningNot f+4,1, it's f+4,2, then you press either 3+4 or down to enter Iai. (f+4,1 is the mid,high HE)
@@genzo454yeah I miss typed
I use DB 4 WAY 2 MUCH
@@BransonLowman I did as well, I used it way too much. That’s why I realized I should only be using it when I know my opponent is going to do a high. We have mediocre lows as it is, but we still have good enough mids to contest. DB4 is only a counter hit tool strictly imo
@@Lotus_awakening Ive been getting a lot of mileage out of 1,3 Im in Raijin right now and Im trying to make it at least to king so its a tough grind.
FIRRRRST...person that ISNT you lol
@@Kammithekiller YOU HAVE CLAIMED THE SPOT OF BEING FIRST!!!
@@Lotus_awakening I GOT DEM PLUS FRAMES!