Why is the Piper M600 so Popular?
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- Today we are going to have a look at an awesome turboprop. The airplane we cover today is from proper aircraft located in Florida. Let's find out why is the piper m600 so popular?
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I was flying as a passenger piper m600 sls. Super safe and comfortable. The feeling inside is like in a big jet 👍
I owned one. The 600 is highly compromised for various reasons. The cabin is small, and getting into the pilots seat is crazy difficult. I had to go in backwards and twist around and I’m only 175 pounds and 5’ 10”. The Garmin 3000 would not upload the database updates every month and I had to spend hours and hours on the phone with Garmin and Jefferson to force through the updates. Range is very compromised once you have more than 2 on board including the pilot with baggage. And the nose wheel issues made me paranoid. If you don’t already know, the nose wheel has an usually high failure rate should the pilot have a heavy landing or makes an excursion. This is a huge issue when the engine is running! Moral of the story… never change a design originally for a piston and produce a turbine version. I sold it after 6 months.
now here’s an honest opinion of someone who owned one. not dreamed about it in fantasy style.
Appreciate the input! What do you fly now?
I love u sir
Which plan would you rather recommend around the same price ?
Just curious, what's the longest trip that you can still manage without the needs of lavatory?
The accident/incident rate for the M600 on landing rollout is way out of line…..the much vaunted HALO system can apply brakes asymmetrically during landing, causing the airplane to veer off the runway…..I wonder if this has been fixed?
Looks and performs great. "Popular" is a relative term. At about $2M, there aren't that many around. It's out of reach of the vast majority - even the vast majority of pilots/owners.
It’s $3M, not $2M. That’s still $1M+ less than most SETP’s like E1000GX, TBM, PC12NGX or Denali.
At 35 units in annual sales, its substantially less popular than all of those SETP’s. Honestly, the difference in operating and finance costs between the M600 and a TBM930 is negligible on annualised basis. If $1M difference is the deciding factor, you’re probably already out of your budget and better suited to a used C340, C421 or TBM700/850.
Since introduction of Vision Jet, I’m honestly surprised Piper can still sell any M600’s. By turbofan standards the Vision Jet is slow, short range and limited full fuel payload. It however outperforms the M600 in every aspect for less $$.
If my aircraft budget were limited to $3M, the M600 would not be a consideration due to its slow speed and very limited full fuel payload. I’d buy a low hours late model TBM850 everyday of week and twice on Sunday
@@MichaelM-to4sg "Since introduction of Vision Jet, I’m honestly surprised Piper can still sell any M600’s."
Thats what I was thinking. The Cirrus Vision, Starts 714 and the Flors LAR 01 are on another level and imho in time will take over. I think Piper is still saved by the fact that the development of the new aircrafts takes so much time (the LAR01 - my personal favourite - is still pre-production) and that production capacity of the jets is very limited
Great plane. I have 9 in my garage. Can recommend.
Lance is a wonderful man. The Aircraft are brilliant. Piper is awesome.
I’m flattered the TH-cam algorithm recommended this to me
Great video. Butt don't need the music. sound overload .
I love Piper.
I SMASH THE LIKE BUTTON!!! LOL
.........thank God, the Garmin system is just time to land the airplane when the jabbadewed pilot dies while in flight!!!!!!!!OUTSTANDING!!!!!! Most of my flight time is in Piper aircraft, Archers and Arrows, and I wouldn't mind having one of these babies!!!!!!!gh
Lucky you
things that a member of the middle class may not experience.
$2.8 million? Heck, I got that in my coin purse. Now where did I put that purse?
5:03 Wonder why this shot is reversed left/right?
7:24 Another one.
unless it has a stack of about $2.8 million inside it's still a very expensive item since many people won't make that much in an entire lifetime of work even with a good paying job.
I'm glad to say you are wrong.
The TBM has something at least as advanced as what the Piper has on offer.
“pc12 alternative”…someone said as the reason for it being “popular”
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Good review! Speed and power has a trade off, more $$ and harder to fly. The latest TBM is almost $5m, and ~1200 SHP w/360kts TAS. Is it worth twice as much for a modified Mooney? (Yes, modified Mooney, look it up) 8) --gary
Lol I’ve flown the 607ca
Thank 👍
But too expensive.
If I ever buy a plane, I'll buy cirrus sr22. If I don't have that much money, I'll buy a piper j-3 pub.
or cessna 172.
2.82 and not have a lavatory.. You could get a PC12 instead.
No restroom?
What, no rest rooms?!.. Jip
For almost 3 million might as well l get a vision jet 😩
No bathroom? Not interested lol
TBM is much popular then m600 dude
SHP ?
I'm guessing static horsepower?
If u can afford $3 million; a few thousand dollars is chump change
Uuh no, its still an expensive plane.
If I drop 3 M on a plane, I'm not going to buy a single engine model. Idiotic.
7:16 'OVER 7 color patterns to choose from!'
I guess that sounds more grandiose than just saying, '8 color patterns'.
How about "between 2 and 4 million color patterns to choose from!"
...because 8 is between 2 and 4 million....
03:22 | "...270 pound per hour of 45 US Gallons..." And I suppose the air pressure of the main wheels is 45 psi of 10 fleas per camel.
03:56 | "...you get 500 miles of extra flight time..." and I suppose if you put more fuel in the plane it will go faster.
THUMBS DOWN for bad script. Did anyone with an aviation background proof read it?
I'll be placing my order soon. Soon as someone gives me the money. Costs 0 dollars to dream.
4:33 "Plenty of room for the pilots (plural) and the six passengers on board" Yet, there are only six seats total, two in the cockpit and 4 in the cabin. Best you are going to do is one pilot and 5 passengers and one of the passengers will need to be in the cockpit.
This is such an awesome aircraft! I've liked it right from the jump. The newer Garmin system is also outstanding. 👍
I fly it
@@pilotjenya Lucky dog.
still a beauty. as a kid in the 80ties I flew in a piper malibu.
Seems like there are two groups commenting . One group loves its looks .
The other group gives specific information about issues .
I would buy the Pilatus PC-12 for that much money. Love the Pilatus.
Gorgeous. Oozes high performance and style. Love it.
Bullshit-Bingo: there are no mph speeds in aviation. Speed in aviation is messured in knots, the range is given in nautical miles. and not in statute miles...Just imagine, U are on a ferry flight across the ocean, the distance is 1000 nm, but your range is 1090 "miles"...do the math...good luck!
Lol. A overblown clickbait ad. "...so popular"? With whom? By what metric(s)?
So… you are buying millions with of a crap airplane? Buy a king air 200 for 1/3 the cost and seat more and have greater range and better after market support
Doesn’t matter the range, without a toilet this plane is a quick hopper…most passengers can go about 2 hours then they gotta go pee…poo not necessary. Piper would sell 100x more of these if they cracked the code on a miniature toilet to pee in.
After your first few flights all flying is like watching paint dry with the chance of auguring in.
99% of the viewers including me can’t even afford this. Still watching every detail 😂
I was really interested but I stopped the video once you told me to smash the like button. ✌️ I’ll get my information elsewhere
I don't understand the hype. It looks outdated to me and not very aerodynamically efficient.
Traveling that far a distance, what about needing a pit stop for the bathroom. No one ever talks about that feature. I guess a porta potty to go? Just a thought.
Nice looking plane. Thanks for sharing.
That's why I don't put much stock in the so-called maximum range that the manufacturer quotes. Depending on the strength of one's bladder, I compute the range as 3-4 hours times the planes cruise speed. I think that is a much more realistic range.
Lol. True! I'm 62, I good for about an hour.
When I travel alone, I do frequent "in drive" pee stops per a urinal. Otherwise it'd take me 9 hours to get to Austin from West Texas. I fill up in Van Horn, next stop Junction 350+ miles - non-stop.
Sorry but you sound like a troll.
Are you a pilot or do you often fly private? These aircraft have pee tubes though most of us who fly carry a pee bottle. The only reason for a potty is to defecate which if you know your body, don’t suffer from a bowel disorder and plan your meals, is not an issue. There are certainly aircraft with potty’s but they are usually much larger with considerably longer range. Closest in size would be the TBM which has optional potty but it’s range is nearly double the M600 unless you’re flying solo or very limited payload to allow a full fuel load.
Maximum range is important in case you run into weather thats just being a bitch, and you end up having to find an alternate for the alternate. Just about everyone can deal with 3 hour flights, then a break (when you have pax). Solo of course, you can stretch that out. Never underestimate the value of a couple of empty Snapple bottles. ;)
You are not going to get much of a "porta potty" in a small plane like this, much less room to move around to use it. As other have said, some kind of little bottle. And the only place to take a dump is in your pants.
4:35 "in fact, there's even room for some luggage"
lol that's a bonus for a multi- million dollar machine 😂
Depends how many passengers and mission profile. That MTOW becomes a real limiting factor very quickly for many mission profiles.
So clearly whoever wrote the script had no idea what any of this meant.
Those are $3M well spend,,imagine flying to a foreing country and have the piece of mind that your personal flight is always there waiting for you
I wonder if you could call this a "personal airliner"? It's fast and luxurious...and expensive.
Cirrus Vision better fits than description. The M600 is not fast, it’s cabin and cockpit is very tight and by most 6-passenger cabin class aircraft, it’s not very luxurious
Where's the toilet?
1:58 what the fuck?.
Don't know if it's very popular but I know it's very desirable and very capable
By what definition? Despite the updated wing design, it remains lowest full fuel payload in class. Poorest range and slowest in class. It’s only benefit is it’s lowest price in class. For those of us in market, the appeal of $3M for a new SETP loses its appeal when one considers its performance. The simple fact is TBM and E1000GX are considerably faster and more capable for just 25% more cost and TBM holds its value far better. Even the Cirrus jet is far more appealing and far less $$. It only lacks cabin class seating but the M600 is so tight and it’s full fuel payload so little, it’s hard to consider that a differentiating factor.
Impressive and inspiring presentation. Only one question remains: during 5 hours flight passengers and pilots will piss their pants? Or in the bottle?
10 minutes for 5minutes of useable information - typical!
disliked for the obnoxious "slam that like button" narration.
Did I just watch a 10 minute advertisement? lol
2 million gtfo lmaoooo Those are GTA Online prices 😂😂
I am 6' 7" and I weigh 379 lbs and I had no issues , at all , getting into cockpit . Fuel range is accurate for the most part . You have got to stay on top of monitoring tire pressure . Very important for obvious reasons . Nitro is best bet
I am 6'10 and 479lbs and i agree !!! 😁
Me too! I am 9' 14" tall and weight 1,100 lbs and had no issues!
its not Popular i don't see vary many at local airports its also too expensive
The TBM 940 also has the Garmin Autoland capabilities.
My toilet seat lands almost same way
And the Pilatus PC-12 NGX
@@CreepinCreeper145 Not true.
@@CreepinCreeper145 The merit of the PC 12 NGX is capable of landing on grass strips, not auto-landing.
@@CreepinCreeper145 The Pilatus is Honeywell glass, much like many turbofans.
World class in terms of safety, reliability and quality. Brilliant machine.
Apparently not
Marc Edwards would disagree with you
Absolutely love the looks of this plane
Yes. Great looking bird.
Nem tudo e aparecia e sim que funcione sem dar Pane e isso que Esperamos de um Avião que custa quase 3 Milhões 💸💰💸
Advertizing hype for a very expensive plane.
Wow review 😊
Its ok, i'll book a regular flight om a large aircraft
single engines kinda scare me...nice aircraft though
Isn't this type from 1979 with a few minor tweaks? Sounds like the marketing spin Airbus has been doing to their outdated 1988 A320-200.
👎 voice over random vids.... needs.... more detail vids.
You know one of those regular days when you jump into your private plane and go the hospital, just like any other regular American. Don’t drive your car or ride the bus, just go back to your private runaway behind your house and voilà, up you go to the skies…🙄
Wouldn’t you just calculate $185 an hour operating cost? That way you calculate the 3600 flight hour checkup.
Is this a video or a thinly veiled commercial?
NO, I wouldn't change my mind seeing the inside to justify 2.8mil. I could glue a fraction of that on a flying wing & Flintstone between hills & cliffs & be there a little dry liped & cramps on my thighs, with plenty to spare for a happy ending massage at some red light district. 😎
Is this the plane on The show The Terminal List??
Yes, but the M500 can land and take off on grass strips. I like the Meridian better.
You’re probably alone in that assessment. The M500 was of course a renamed Meridian, essentially the PA46 airframe w/PT6A replacing the problematic Lycoming motor. While the similarly problematic pressurisation system was updated, as were avionics, the Meridian/M500 still had a 35 year old airframe with inefficient wing design that offered very limited MTOW by modern SETP standards. The M600 wing update not only offered increased cruise speed, it dramatically increased MTOW, still well behind the TBM and now E1000GX and Vision Jet but a vast improvement over M500. It’s hard to imagine a mission profile where the M500 equals or surpasses the M600, maybe short range bush pilot duty but there are of course Otters and Caravans far more capable for such duty.
I’m not a fan of anything Piper except the old Aerostar and Cheyenne 400LS but choosing between Meridian/M500 and M600, I choose the latter everyday of week and twice on Sunday
@@MichaelM-to4sg Not if you have a 3000 feet grass strip in your backyard. You cannot land M600 on it, which is perfect for M500. Got it?
These reason cited are so stupid it made me laugh
I've decided this is the plane I want.. now I have to go ask my manager at burger King for a raise and see if I can trade in my 98 Honda Civic as a down payment lol
Popular ,and more failure, engine
looks like a modern p51 mustang
The M in M Class Stands for Millionaire.
Sorry, too much AM radio in the VO. Can't take it.
It's popularity can't be because the wings snap off in turbulent weather. Could it?
I just intalled a rebuilt engine on a Matrix. The owner is not happy with the perfomance
??! 5:23 Wow! WOW!! Does it have *Cupholders? **7:25** WOW!* Still though, that price 1:00 is pretty steep, maybe if it had Red and Green Position Lights 6:45 OK, OK, NOW I will sign the check, how much again? 1:00
The trouble with Autopilot, Auto-Oopsie 5:43 and Auto-Land 8:06 is that it rewards carelessness of Skills while the speed 4:13 encourages arrogance. Fortunately, this is a long runway Aircraft 8:37 where it has to share space with pilots having thousands of hours in the Left Seat. It also keeps it away from the Puddle Jumpers that value flying skills over buttons.
Cool, i'll take one.
deez
A beautiful plane, inside and out
UFOs 20,000 Mph in seconds
I dont know? Wann tell me why?
P-51 is faster and has more range? Sounds like technology isnt keeping up.
U need to be an AMP with your own shop to afford the maintnance cost!
I think you mean A&P.
Because it run drugs good.
Wow, how bad of a driver is his Dad that his son buys a plane so he can get to the hospital faster when he has car accidents?
Hi, always need a toilett ??
some krytox gpl 205 g0 might make it a lot nicer and smoother
Light jets? It's net a jet.
Like a Saratoga turbo prop
Are they are better than Mooney?
no parachute though