I have forests exactly like that a few minutes from where I live, they're just a bit more dense. Pretty much anywhere near civilisation and boreal forest looks like this 😅
I think using ArmA as a training tool is a great idea (and great way to play the game), but if the intent is to get as realistic of an experience as possible, I think it would help to study conflicts a bit more and the capabilities of the opposing force. First thing I wonder is how is the plane able to get into the AO in the first place for the drop? Another thing people seem to miss out on when making arma missions is setting up capable enemy defensive and firing positions, not to mention minefields. I think it would be quite interesting having to take into account all the factors of insertion, enemy positions, enemy defenses, enemy surveillance, and trying to make the enemy as human as possible and anticipate offensive operations. Then what would be the enemy's response to an attack? I just feel like many operations in ArmA communities are very one-sided and don't take into account the enemy's capabilities, making them essentially sitting ducks.
I tend to agree. You made a lot of valid observations. Starting from the drop, the 3 klicks (didn’t feel like it) was a short walk for Alpha & Bravo. Similar to another reply in these comments, a number of players cannot sit still long enough for an equivalent RL engagement.
Agree with your points and a lot of them comes down to having AI as enemy. Most people who do milsim operations do co-op instead of pvp. Having an AI enemy is the least realistic part of these operations I think. I only did one pvp operation like that and we got our asses kicked compered to co-op, was way more fun and realistic.
@@DemonOfMirkwood I do agree, however the AI can be scripted and handled in ways to make them react at least a little bit more realistically. There are some commands you can use in the editor as well as setting up triggers to make AI situations more realistic, but yeah, they will never replace real players.
For sure! We're always balancing fun/realism. Ops like these are meant to train teamwork and comms primarily, but not anything in particular. Spicing it up with armor, CAS assets, and HALO jumps are all just to add to the fun sandbox elements.
@@OperatorDrewski I am back after a forever hiatus. I was playing in the days when it just changed from Op Flashpoint into ARMA. I just bought the fundraiser package for Ukraine 🇺🇦 which is pretty much vanilla. Looking at your content to warm up before I dive in again. Thanks for sharing this
I've learned a LOT about basic land navigation in Arma over the years. I use those same skills in the woods all the time now, so it definitely taught me something transferable. Call outs and team movement are another I've learned a lot about. Honestly, I think video games are a great medium for certain forms of training. Obviously the military agrees because I understand they're using heavily modified game engines to do the same thing for soldiers.
It's the other way for me, being good at orientation in real life and an outdoor "expert" made Arma very easy to play. No advantage on the shooting part itself though lol. But getting into mortars and artillery was relatively easy and tons of fun. An accurate splash is very satisfying, the longer range the better. And GPS is meh Don't need that unless you're blind - literally or metaphorically
I love these Arma 3 night and stealth videoes! Especially when they are long, like this. There is just something fun and intense when you’re just walking in the forest. This was by far my fav vid out of all the Amra 3 nvg vids. MOOOORRREEEEEE!!!!!
Fox barks are some of the most horrifying sounds you'll hear in the middle of the night outside of your window. Foxes aren't something to be super scared of, but their barks sound almost like human screams which if you can guess, are horrifying to hear in the middle of the night right outside.
In my SE part of Colorado, we actually have 3 different Fox species. One of them, when they are in heat, will scream/bark a cry that sounds just like a kid screaming MOM. Bolt off the couch or out of bed every damn time
Drew talking about how ARMA can be used for military training. Also Drew after squaddie asks if they should shoot out some lights "Yeah! Do what you want man!"
Hey drewski, the goggles you have in the game are PVS-14'S. I can personally account for how bad they are. The new NVGS that we are issued are called NVG-40'S. They are White Phosphorus and are amazing for driving at night and late night patrols, you could walk into a fully lit room and not b blind.
Most PVS14 you can buy are way better than the ones we were issued, my issued NOD can't hold a candle to my personal NOD. I think it's just the same kind of bias as most mil folks have against the M9 for being so clapped out.
way back in 2018 I once used some very high quality White Phosphorus NVG that were in development and i could see facial features from around 25-30 meters away. in the future this technology is going to be even more amazing!
Really love this video style. The combat journalist perspective was so cool and gave all the shots an immersion factor I just adored. Would love to see a series of videos like this in the future. Great job, Drew!
Awesome video, I’ve used an arma style system to train before, good value. When describing ammo situations we use black for out, red for low, yellow for some expended and green for topped off. Keep up the good work.
Hey Dreski, I see you were having NVGs turn off while using your scope. CUP Scopes like that have a 3D Feature to allow you to continue using your NVGs through the optic. Press Ctrl+Numpad Minus to toggle it. Just be warned, when its set this way, it doesn't properly save the scope in loadouts, so have it in the 2D setting for saving loadouts. I use it all the time, figured you might want it if you intend to use the optic in this situation again.
Or he can just use another optic, like ARCO or DMR... iirc those - for example - works with NV. They don't have integrated NV though. Most or all of the Marksmen DLC optics sadly won't work with NVG. Which sucks, cause they're pretty cool.
I love distant combat slowly approaching and getting louder and shots hitting closer, those sounds of the calm forest slowly taken out of perspective as you have to soon return fire.
Actually Drew it's so funny you bring up using Arma as training, because that's exactly what I plan to do here with my Army unit in the coming years. It allows for a realistic but low effort training system that takes out the tedious requirements that other similar training events come with.
Nice, I just started playing Arma 3 pretty heavily. Going between the S.O.G. Prairie Fire servers I play on, and the Survival sever I play on(Survival Server, has been my newest focus. Spent last 3 days in server, grinding trying to get gear and start a base. Have a solid FOB setup for running Recon Ops out of on the Survival Server.)
i love how intense and cinematic Arma 3 is, especially with mods. the sound is amazing. the whole experience is basically just good, if sometimes janky. i love this game.
"I'd really like to have the stinger not weighing him down" Ah yes, the long time tradition of the grunts and ground pounders complaining about kit weight ~_^
Johnny Omaha is such a good dude, top 3 Squad comp streamers easily, and helped out streaming Doctor Hammer's PUBG event thing. Such a pillar in the community!
It's more interesting for the squad leader to "get some" in a video. But a real squad leader commands and controls the squad. Work as a liaisons with other units and assets. That should be the primary focus.
i have been paratrooper in the german forces and participated in real life operations like this. I can say this feels very immersive and realistic. Amazing game / simulation!
Very impressed with the tactics and terminology you used in this video drew a lot of it is similar if not the same that we use in the marine corps, very good use of comms as well. As always great video keep up the good work!
Haven't checked in for awhile. Glad I did. Love your opening thought and I love your dedication to true milsim experience. I love play through content like this and as someone who absolutely sucks at shooters, I get to enjoy the intensity of quality milsim without the frustration of getting dusted before I can get off shots. Keep doing what you're doing Drewski!
I tried a milsim match in Arizona with a few buddies, Oh my god did it teach me that cardio is a MUST HAVE. I thought I was pretty good with cardio at like normal airsoft games in my local area but holy hell is it hard to keep up that pace for hours and hours on end without much of a break.
This is so dope. tried a few times and can't get into arma but huge hell let loose fan, and trying for a modern warfare tactical game. Jumping back in to try and work this shit out
Drew: Have you been stepped on at 2 AM? Me: Yes, I did got stepped on, Not once, Not twice, But a couple of time. It was a Millsim Airsoft event I joined in, I was a part of the Recon team, I covered myself with logs and trash. Our Target was to Eliminate 5 Leaders and not to get noticed... So... Yeah, Remembering that time makes my Back Hurt like hell just Remembering it. 😅
Really like the vid and how you go for the realism. Only gripe is if you're going for a infantry battalion style load out the suppressors anre only on the snipers. And comms are really only on the SL,TL , PSG, and PL
Yeah and calling every enemy person a contact isn’t a thing. Every time they say we got contact but no shooting I’m like “so there’s no contact” instead they should be calling out what they see. 3 D’s for instance. “ Hey! 12:00, 250 meters 3 guys in the tree line with small arms. Keep it short as possible with giving the most information.
Please include the reporter in future vids! *maybe allow him to have full NV view, as his View is "Camera pov" and doesn't need the nods. Great op however
Was a humvee gunner during some training with my unit and had a night time full blackout convoy. Blackout meaning no vehicle lights. Well the damn moon wasn't out and I could barely see ten feet from the turret even with my NVGs. Operating during night is hell
Could not believe the fuel truck incident 🤦🏿♂️ really enjoyed the mission contacts though. Trenches are so world war two bro, back in my time serving it was shell scrapes 😊🇬🇧👍🏿
The ambient noise of that forest adds an amazing vibe to the mission
What map was that on?
@@kingstontew5463 thats what i want to know
@@kingstontew5463 Virolahti?
@@kingstontew5463 Definitly Virolahti
@@nolandr7027 Definitely Virolahti
"We're paratroopers private. We're meant to be surrounded." - Captain Winters, 2nd Battalion 506th Regiment, 101st Airborne. Easy Company.
Small nitpick but I'm pretty sure it was 506th PIR
@@rjhick1, yup, 506th
Wasn’t that from Band of Brothers?
@@rjhick1 ah oops.
Damn, didn't notice that Company of Heroees (the RTS Game) used that line for the Paras too.
29:48 "Another vehicle, bearing 1... 69 *ahaaha*, uh crossing the field at 400m"
This is peak military perfomance.
thats what I was thinking
@@richardmasciopinto8808then in the AAR the CO tells everyone to “keep it professional from here on out”
Imagine getting stuck in a fallout shelter one day with a bunch of other guys and then you recognize Drewski’s voice.
sus
sussy baka
🤣
I'd be somewhat relieved, there's better people I want to hear but drewski at least knows what he's doing
I’d end myself
This environment, with those power lines going through cleared lanes of forest area, looks very much like the wider Chernobyl Exclusion Zone.
Maybe that's deliberate
*digs into radioactive dirt
I have forests exactly like that a few minutes from where I live, they're just a bit more dense. Pretty much anywhere near civilisation and boreal forest looks like this 😅
No
@@daplug2076 Yes
Bro, that first shot from the first contact was like a movie scene.
I think using ArmA as a training tool is a great idea (and great way to play the game), but if the intent is to get as realistic of an experience as possible, I think it would help to study conflicts a bit more and the capabilities of the opposing force. First thing I wonder is how is the plane able to get into the AO in the first place for the drop? Another thing people seem to miss out on when making arma missions is setting up capable enemy defensive and firing positions, not to mention minefields. I think it would be quite interesting having to take into account all the factors of insertion, enemy positions, enemy defenses, enemy surveillance, and trying to make the enemy as human as possible and anticipate offensive operations. Then what would be the enemy's response to an attack? I just feel like many operations in ArmA communities are very one-sided and don't take into account the enemy's capabilities, making them essentially sitting ducks.
I tend to agree. You made a lot of valid observations. Starting from the drop, the 3 klicks (didn’t feel like it) was a short walk for Alpha & Bravo. Similar to another reply in these comments, a number of players cannot sit still long enough for an equivalent RL engagement.
Agree with your points and a lot of them comes down to having AI as enemy. Most people who do milsim operations do co-op instead of pvp. Having an AI enemy is the least realistic part of these operations I think. I only did one pvp operation like that and we got our asses kicked compered to co-op, was way more fun and realistic.
@@DemonOfMirkwood I do agree, however the AI can be scripted and handled in ways to make them react at least a little bit more realistically. There are some commands you can use in the editor as well as setting up triggers to make AI situations more realistic, but yeah, they will never replace real players.
For sure! We're always balancing fun/realism. Ops like these are meant to train teamwork and comms primarily, but not anything in particular. Spicing it up with armor, CAS assets, and HALO jumps are all just to add to the fun sandbox elements.
@@OperatorDrewski I am back after a forever hiatus. I was playing in the days when it just changed from Op Flashpoint into ARMA. I just bought the fundraiser package for Ukraine 🇺🇦 which is pretty much vanilla. Looking at your content to warm up before I dive in again. Thanks for sharing this
I've learned a LOT about basic land navigation in Arma over the years. I use those same skills in the woods all the time now, so it definitely taught me something transferable. Call outs and team movement are another I've learned a lot about. Honestly, I think video games are a great medium for certain forms of training. Obviously the military agrees because I understand they're using heavily modified game engines to do the same thing for soldiers.
It's the other way for me, being good at orientation in real life and an outdoor "expert" made Arma very easy to play. No advantage on the shooting part itself though lol. But getting into mortars and artillery was relatively easy and tons of fun.
An accurate splash is very satisfying, the longer range the better.
And GPS is meh
Don't need that unless you're blind - literally or metaphorically
The algorithm must really like Drew's tactics here, considering the amount of times the subtitles just go A P P L A U S E
Gun vids in general I love the amount of "applause" and "music" subtitles
APPLAUSE
@@OperatorDrewskiare ya winnin’ yet, son?
I love these Arma 3 night and stealth videoes! Especially when they are long, like this. There is just something fun and intense when you’re just walking in the forest. This was by far my fav vid out of all the Amra 3 nvg vids. MOOOORRREEEEEE!!!!!
Fox barks are some of the most horrifying sounds you'll hear in the middle of the night outside of your window. Foxes aren't something to be super scared of, but their barks sound almost like human screams which if you can guess, are horrifying to hear in the middle of the night right outside.
In my SE part of Colorado, we actually have 3 different Fox species. One of them, when they are in heat, will scream/bark a cry that sounds just like a kid screaming MOM. Bolt off the couch or out of bed every damn time
Drew talking about how ARMA can be used for military training.
Also Drew after squaddie asks if they should shoot out some lights "Yeah! Do what you want man!"
You think SF never shoots out lights?
I mean Drew isn’t performing military training he’s just saying it could be used for that
Hey drewski, the goggles you have in the game are PVS-14'S. I can personally account for how bad they are. The new NVGS that we are issued are called NVG-40'S. They are White Phosphorus and are amazing for driving at night and late night patrols, you could walk into a fully lit room and not b blind.
Yeah the military issued 14's were never great. Get some better tubes in em tho and they're a great budget NVG setup!
Most PVS14 you can buy are way better than the ones we were issued, my issued NOD can't hold a candle to my personal NOD. I think it's just the same kind of bias as most mil folks have against the M9 for being so clapped out.
way back in 2018 I once used some very high quality White Phosphorus NVG that were in development and i could see facial features from around 25-30 meters away. in the future this technology is going to be even more amazing!
PVS 14's are a gift compared to the 7 Bravos.
Shit my units got 20s a few years ago and I thought those were somewhat new, I was wrong
*trucks spontaneously explodes killing everyone*
"I did it!" - Josh Bringer of Death
fucking died when that happened lol
"If you're not fit, you're going to die." -Flannel Daddy Garand
"if your fit doesn't go hard, you will die" -Swaggy Daddy Garand
what if i am just always on copious amounts of drugs and have retard strength despite only being 120lbs at 6'4
Really love this video style. The combat journalist perspective was so cool and gave all the shots an immersion factor I just adored. Would love to see a series of videos like this in the future. Great job, Drew!
that media rp was so funny. Cool addition to the experience though. Great for visuals and dynamic game play
Haven't watched the entire video yet but still gonna like cuz I know this is going to be another banger.
I would love to see some more island night operations where you come in from the ocean and it's mostly stealth based, those are really fun to watch
DREW : "Have you ever been stepped on at 2AM"
Me : you have no idea
Lol
Awesome video, I’ve used an arma style system to train before, good value. When describing ammo situations we use black for out, red for low, yellow for some expended and green for topped off. Keep up the good work.
Anyone that has played arma for a decent amount of time got a warm fuzzy feeling with lots of memories when you got arma'd by those trucks at the end
Thought it was real halo, pleasantly surprised though. Hyped for this milsim op, love the content Drew keep up!
He changed the title
I thought it was funny that by “real halo” you meant the green space man that fights aliens.
“Real Halo” …you mean the video game? 🤣
@@sciathoir basically the old title was like H.A.L.O. infiltration or smth like that i don't remember
@@Loopo01 it was "H.A.L.O Dropping Behind Enemy Lines" and i also just read halo and assumed it was a modded op.
Hey Dreski, I see you were having NVGs turn off while using your scope. CUP Scopes like that have a 3D Feature to allow you to continue using your NVGs through the optic. Press Ctrl+Numpad Minus to toggle it. Just be warned, when its set this way, it doesn't properly save the scope in loadouts, so have it in the 2D setting for saving loadouts. I use it all the time, figured you might want it if you intend to use the optic in this situation again.
Or he can just use another optic, like ARCO or DMR...
iirc those - for example - works with NV. They don't have integrated NV though.
Most or all of the Marksmen DLC optics sadly won't work with NVG. Which sucks, cause they're pretty cool.
I love distant combat slowly approaching and getting louder and shots hitting closer, those sounds of the calm forest slowly taken out of perspective as you have to soon return fire.
Both the game and the mod are unreal, the level of detail is amazing.
Actually Drew it's so funny you bring up using Arma as training, because that's exactly what I plan to do here with my Army unit in the coming years. It allows for a realistic but low effort training system that takes out the tedious requirements that other similar training events come with.
Like Steel Beasts
Based
please document this via yt videos!
The army already has a licensed Arma training aide. It's not called Arma but it's made by the same guys
@@zandohrtv I will don’t worry
''Drew he's to youre right.''
: absolute hell brakes loose
enemy almost walked on top of us there lol
i love how fu is highly recognized in Drewski, Karmakut and MoiDogs vidoes, hes just everywhere.
God damn this was so cool. That ending with the fuel trucks cracked me up too!
Nice, I just started playing Arma 3 pretty heavily. Going between the S.O.G. Prairie Fire servers I play on, and the Survival sever I play on(Survival Server, has been my newest focus. Spent last 3 days in server, grinding trying to get gear and start a base. Have a solid FOB setup for running Recon Ops out of on the Survival Server.)
i love how intense and cinematic Arma 3 is, especially with mods. the sound is amazing. the whole experience is basically just good, if sometimes janky. i love this game.
RIP Nicky Gumble, it was a blast playing this op!
"I'd really like to have the stinger not weighing him down"
Ah yes, the long time tradition of the grunts and ground pounders complaining about kit weight ~_^
I will forever miss poor Nicky Gumble, he wasn't just the reporter, he was my friend
RIP Nicky, gone too soon
Johnny Omaha is such a good dude, top 3 Squad comp streamers easily, and helped out streaming Doctor Hammer's PUBG event thing. Such a pillar in the community!
As a current active duty radio operator in the marine corps, seeing an an/prc 152 in the game being used is pretty sick.
dude it’s just so perfect, “drew on you right”*firefight*like beautifullll
Nice to see Johnny back for another video, I love the alternate perspective and little interviews
From 5:12 to 6:20 every time you cut to the reporter that was me being shown or talking lol
That reporter.
“I believe one of your men has been shot!”
Top RP marks and a good way to call the SL is down :-)
35:00 “Alpha were pushing south.” *continues to dig* 😂
It's more interesting for the squad leader to "get some" in a video. But a real squad leader commands and controls the squad. Work as a liaisons with other units and assets. That should be the primary focus.
i have been paratrooper in the german forces and participated in real life operations like this. I can say this feels very immersive and realistic. Amazing game / simulation!
Night Jump - "When the light pops, the grinning stops".
Very impressed with the tactics and terminology you used in this video drew a lot of it is similar if not the same that we use in the marine corps, very good use of comms as well. As always great video keep up the good work!
Johnny's really going for that Oscar there.
Haven't checked in for awhile. Glad I did. Love your opening thought and I love your dedication to true milsim experience. I love play through content like this and as someone who absolutely sucks at shooters, I get to enjoy the intensity of quality milsim without the frustration of getting dusted before I can get off shots. Keep doing what you're doing Drewski!
I absolutely enjoy the night-ops missions. The tension and atmosphere is so engaging
I tried a milsim match in Arizona with a few buddies, Oh my god did it teach me that cardio is a MUST HAVE. I thought I was pretty good with cardio at like normal airsoft games in my local area but holy hell is it hard to keep up that pace for hours and hours on end without much of a break.
When the Hinds arrived, that shovel or whatever that was, sounded like smoothe jazz was fading in
I like how you guys had a reporter with you guys
This is so dope. tried a few times and can't get into arma but huge hell let loose fan, and trying for a modern warfare tactical game.
Jumping back in to try and work this shit out
Maybe insurgency sandstorm if you like modern
We do what we can to train team tactics in our unit (29th ID), but it is for applying against other players in-game rather than IRL. Good stuff.
Drew: Have you been stepped on at 2 AM?
Me: Yes, I did got stepped on, Not once, Not twice, But a couple of time.
It was a Millsim Airsoft event I joined in, I was a part of the Recon team, I covered myself with logs and trash.
Our Target was to Eliminate 5 Leaders and not to get noticed... So... Yeah, Remembering that time makes my Back Hurt like hell just Remembering it. 😅
I know this is a simulation but dang does it looks, sounds and feel real!
This looks fun, maybe one day I can find a group to do this kind of stuff with.
0:28 "Have you ever been stepped on at 02:00 AM?" Man, i wish
the transition was so good that i thought the sun was rising and i dident noticed it changed location, made my brain go into a loop
Really like the vid and how you go for the realism. Only gripe is if you're going for a infantry battalion style load out the suppressors anre only on the snipers. And comms are really only on the SL,TL , PSG, and PL
Yeah and calling every enemy person a contact isn’t a thing. Every time they say we got contact but no shooting I’m like “so there’s no contact” instead they should be calling out what they see. 3 D’s for instance. “ Hey! 12:00, 250 meters 3 guys in the tree line with small arms. Keep it short as possible with giving the most information.
@29:50
".....bearing, one sixty-nine ha ha" LOL!!
I see what you did there. 😁😉
This is some of the best nighttime arm a content 13:02
Was finally able to buy a set of RNVG's about a year ago. Been night shooting ever since. It seriously changes the entire dynamic
Slowly coming back to consciousness,
15:17 “Follow my voice! Quickly Foo! Quickly!” Hahah
Man, when that bmp opened up into the woods… that was terrifying.
Love this content, hope to see more of this ops! Keep it up!!
I love the addition of the reporter
Mad respect the guy digging a birm every stop of the way.
The way that contact popped off was sick
Thanks @JohnnyOmaha for the "press footage." More of that please, Drewsky
"Potato! Stop digging. I need another gun over here!!" Lol
Potato answered my question of ... who tfs digging a hole during a fight lol.
This brought joy to my day. Thank you
just a thought,but- i think drewski would make an amazing teacher, in literally any subject of his choosing
I gotta say comms and team work are really great and fluid.
Man the double Hind moment, so good
Please include the reporter in future vids!
*maybe allow him to have full NV view, as his View is "Camera pov" and doesn't need the nods. Great op however
I love the reporter angles of these, keep it up man!
The way he suddenly got mowed down by the MG on the AV, made my guts knot up.
‘HALO’ huh he’s playing HALO - ok… ‘H.A.L.O.’ Wait that - *OH SHIT HES DOING THE THING*
Sir, he's finishing this fight.
29:50 I could swear this dude is Myron from fallout 2, even the laughing at 69 is in character 🤣🔥
Played ARMA 3 for the first time with some friends tonight it was honestly the scariest game I've ever played, it was amazing, but also terrifying
Was a humvee gunner during some training with my unit and had a night time full blackout convoy. Blackout meaning no vehicle lights. Well the damn moon wasn't out and I could barely see ten feet from the turret even with my NVGs. Operating during night is hell
Finally an Arma 3 Op again :D
24:20 “The BBC has nothing but the highest of standards” 😂
I watched this on my pc in my room at night and with lights off for the vibe, it hit different 👌
25:40
Dude 1: damn, that's a good trench.
Dude 2: I pride myself on my trench placement
😂😂
It would be cool to see a WW1 version of this where they would need to send runners to other groups.
When I woke up, I was excited to see the new Arma video. I didn't have time to watch it then, but I do now :)
No show or movie brings me as much joy as do Drewski's videos.
I would be blessed to game with you "Operator". What you've taught me just by watching is amazing.
P.S. No slang, I love it. Feels professional
Man, dropping in, having to walk solo to a rendezvous and then regroup would make a sick cod mission.
have you ever been stepped on at 2am? yes, I've also fell face first into a puddle of swamp water at 1AM in the woods of Fort Bragg at night.
38 :45 he really pulled a rambo
Just reminds me of predator hunting with the boys using thermal and NV when you heard the fox 🦊
Man, I wish I had a group of friends to do missions like this.
I'd like to see infantry operations with lower tech equipment. An operation where you're not a spec op or anything just a soldier
I must say all Soldiers are issued night vis optics now. Even logistics units
Could not believe the fuel truck incident 🤦🏿♂️ really enjoyed the mission contacts though. Trenches are so world war two bro, back in my time serving it was shell scrapes 😊🇬🇧👍🏿
love how an intense firefight is happening meanwhile the CC says its applause
Your videos just make me so happy bro you've got no idea.