Not 3 times 😆 Try 1 Thousand times A reporter asked Edison (How did it feel to Fail 1,000 times ?) And Edison replied (I Didn't Not Fail 1,000 Times the light build was a invention with 1,000 steps Great Success is built on failure, Frustration, Even Catastrophy
i wonder what would happen if you used some REALY hot blank .22 rim fires and put them in backwards. would it act like an incendiary or would it just dud
It's amazing how much punishment the 22 priming compound will take without going off. Nice job guys, it takes a little bit of bravery/faith to pull the trigger on those rounds. Be careful out there!
Given some of the highly priced commercially available slugs you guys tested, that went all over the place, it's so weird to see something as pinpoint accurate as this weird little contraption. What I'd like to see is a similar slug, but without the hole being drilled all the way through and a .22 blank being put in the nose, that might go off on impact and get some crazy damage.
The "power shot" rounds (like are used for driving nails into concrete) come in a variety of power loadings... If you took the highest power loading or if you just took a .22 round and filled it all the way up with the fastest powder you had, that might be interesting... I suspect that if exploding bullets were truly effective, then the military would switch to them...
@@seanseoltoir I guess the risk isn't worth the reward. Regular expanding bullets work great on soft targets, I guess you don't really need anything that could go _kasplooey_ in the shooter's face. But damnit, I'd love to see such a round go off in a giant booger teddybear 🤣
@@h.a.9880 -- If they could work reliably, I would definitely load my rounds with them... They have been tried over the years, but their success rate was not that great...
Lol, I just said the same thing. Then I started reading the comments and noticed you too thought of this. i think a .22cal blank inserted into a lead slug with a solid noise would be cool.
And here I thought it was a .357 magnum firing doorknob... ah well, still fun. The primer in the .22lr casing is spun into place and is along the outside edge and must be pinched to be set off - I can't think of any safe way to put a striker pin behind or in front of the .22lr casing rim to get that effect, possibly a short piece of copper wire taped onto the back of the assemblage? The .22lr rimfire mechanic is absolutely awesome, it is technically a shape-charge primer in that the primer goes off all around the rear circumference of the cartridge and a jet of hell is squirted forward through the powder right at the back of the bullet. This is what makes it awesome for nail guns as well - it produces a very centrally distributed chamber pressure with the initial burn and this circulates the powder in a little swirly firestorm.
@@wantitprintit have you seen the impact of a 22 from striking a bunny in the chest and expanding through the meat almost to the back leg it's about a 9mm diameter, I cut one out following the dark red trail through the body and it opened my eyes to the damage at 60 metres from a 22
Evan never fails to impress with his creations, you guys never fail to impress with a great show even if the round doesn't quite live up to expectations, must be why I keep coming back. Have a great week , see y'all next time.
@@ItsMrAssholeToYou if the back is closed, with a few bumps along the internal rim, the pressure that inverted it could set it off, and allow a good burn. I want to see a part two, tho this is old, gotta look around and see if its been done
@@razoredgechris I didn't read the title and just saw the thumbnail and thought it was a design for a push button lock doorknob. Would be a cool concept, maybe with something bigger tho, like 9mm
Interesting that the 22 through the gel didn't compress hard enough, fast enough to set off the powder. As always, a good video and interesting content.
I think that the problem may have been that there was nothing for the head of the 22 casing to push against. If the 22 had been dropped into a seal tube in the slug, there might have been a different outcome, however the problem would be the rim of the 22 casing, which would prevent the tube being a snug fit to the 22 casing.
Would have like to have seen one of the .22 rounds against something hard to see if that set the round off and gave it any extra penetrating power but great vis as usual!
Looking at that .22 that had the whole back bent in, I'm wondering if the fact that it bent the whole middle in meant that there was less direct pressure on the primer. I don't know much about how rimfire primer works but I know at least on my rifle the imprint looks a lot "sharper" if that's what you want to call it.
The brass casing just rupures, and makes a pop. Straws don't make a barrel, obviously you haven't the slightest idea how ballistics work... Joe, is that you? Watch out for lungs on the ground, they're quite slippery.
Take one sheet paper and roll into a cone. Remove bullet from cartridge and place open end of cartridge over the end of the cone, being careful not to spill the powder. Tape it in place. Fill a Ziploc with white gas and place in the cone. Toss out a convenient second story window onto a hard surfaced courtyard.
Would love to see one of those rounds got the lead plate or the steel plate. Secondary ignition would be almost a guarantee. Thanks for the entertaining content 🤙
As I drove up the 5 yesterday and looked at the temperature I assumed we weren’t getting a video this week. OG wasn’t exaggerating, it was hot. You two tough guys surprised me with another cool vid.
Reminded me of the “HESH” round video. Had to go rewatch it and got a pleasant flashback of Danny being behind the trigger. One of the great things of videos is the ability to see the ones we miss.
As there is no barrel the 22. wouldn't be very fast. Maybe not even fast enough to make it back to the OG. But what "could" work is a Slug with a hole not quite drilled completly drilled through and filled to the brim with primer. That "should" ignite on impact. Or at launch inside the shotgun chamber. Would be interessting to see. But only being shot by a string sttached to the trigger. I don't want to see the OG loose some fingers over a stupid idea.
I worry about it detonating on impact and sending the .22 casing, which is lighter than the bullet, back at the shooter. Looking for a name, maybe "suicide slug"?
At 3:50, on the first shot, I thought I saw an eyeball flying forward along with the shades after impact. I had to rewatch it to make sure Brandon was still OK. You had me really worried since he's my favorite on the crew. No offense to anyone else there.
TL;DR: it never went off. Pressure of passing through the ballistic gel pushed the 22LR projectile backwards into the casing and out the back of the 22 shell itself. The 12gauge slugs flew true and cut out a tube in the gel. Testing starts at 3:44.
In theory could you have a round that does that, goes backwards, and pushes out blades inside ballistic gel?🤔 I'll keep dreaming for now haha,Great Video Guys!
The most successful of these I've seen have been 22 blanks that are mounted with the case head on the front of the slug, because you've still got two points of contact to set the blank off.
I saw Kentuckey Balistics do a vid with Evan's slugs the other day. I hadn't realised he had an actual business selling these things until then, maybe give his business a shoutout next time?
ya meant to put the 22 in the front of the slug so it hits the primer end against the target. but dont have the hole all the way through the slug or the 22 might come back to you
I'm not a native of the San Joaquin Valley, but everytime I've been there in the summer it was both hot and humid, so thank you for still giving us videos. I subscribe to most of the other gun channels OG references, but this has come to be the only gun channel I still watch every video of. I never comment, mostly because this account is clearly not a burner, but wanted to thank you for the countless hours you guys put into preparing, filming, and editing. I know words are cheap, but I do mean them.
First impression before watching: if the .22 ignites on impact its casing should be propelled back towards the shooter since its mass is much lower than the bullet's, and there is no rear wall to it's chamber. I would advise against this... After seeing the video I have to agree that .22 primers are pretty tough. That, and Evan Perry makes really impressive slugs! Still love these guys and this channel, but I believe unnecessary risk was taken here.
Especially when you consider tumbling of the slug. It only flew straight without the .22. With the round inside it could have changed the aerodynamics and induced a tumble. Then the rimfire could have potentially come right back at the shooter.
I hope that cabbage was spoiled! Thanks for the shout out, I’m glad you are getting good use out of the circus tent. As always, love watching you fellows do what you do. All in the name of fun.
I can see this used for hunting being that it will make a wound track that cannot close on it's own due to the hole in the middle cutting out a tube of meat. In doing so it ensures that the animal will bleed out.
High speed physics is amazing. I love everything you guys do. far more science than demo-lotion ranch lol. keep on shooting, stay safe. Blessings from sunny England. (not too sunny of course).
What if you put a small bearing on the wading lined up with the .22 so that when the shot goes off you have a harder impact onto the primer? Just a thought. or even a finishing nail cut down after poking it through the wading.
My dad died 3 years ago. I was cleaning out the barn recently and found a hidden storage area. I found some long guns, some more long guns and a barrel of freedom seeds, in all calibers. Makes me wonder where the 22 Hornet is? I hope I find it! I now have 410, 12 & 16 guage shot guns. I didn't know how bad I needed a 410 shot gun! It's my new squirrel & racoon gun...
I'm seeing the slug tumble and hit the target backwards, igniting the charge, and sending a .22 bullet in the general direction of the one that fired the shot in the first place
@@aaa69200 We saw with the last shot how high the resistance of the gel can be. So if the round landed backwards, the gel could represent a breech face, and the brass slug would become the chamber. So, I really wouldn't try it except under much more controlled conditions.
@@aaa69200 1/4 inch drywall will stop just any round that fires off in open air. With out the berral containment and friction. There is just no presher bilt up.
Thankfully that can’t happen. If you throw a handful of 22 rounds into a fire and stand by it the rounds will cook off, though without a pressure vessel (barrel) to direct the bullet, the round just explodes and the bullet and case barely move at all.
@@BobWidlefish In this case, if it's a snug fit in the slug, you do have a chamber, so it's like a .22 revolver without the barrel, not like a round burning without a chamber at all.
Something could probably be arranged, but a rimfire round is not the ideal way to achieve this. A hole in the front of a slug, drilled 7 mm deep at 4.5 mm diameter then most of the way through at 3 mm diameter, filled with power to the top of the 3 mm part, capped with a large pistol primer with a 4.32 mm steel "B" sitting on top of it, held in place with a ring of glue, would be more sensible. I know one powder that could fit the energy of a .45 ACP round into a 10 mm long, 3 mm wide cylindrical space, and I'd be wanting to use a long string to pull the trigger if I was trying to fire that stuff out of a shotgun. Expected effects: BB goes forward briefly and slug expands a bit inside the gel block.
Get a desert water bag. It's canvas, squareish, with a stiffening dowel sewn into the top, and an organic cork at one of the top corners, also a rope sewn into the top corners to carry it on your shoulder. Water slowly seeps through the material and keeps the water inside cool through evaporation, if you're in some thick dust it will coat the outside of the bag as it sticks to the humidity on the outside of the bag. If you leave it alone for a long time, of course all the water inside will evaporate out, but in desert conditions you will use the water too fast to notice any loss in the volume of available drinking water. We bought these at the PX when I was stationed in 29 Palms, those things were a little bit of luxurious cool water during training out in the field. When I went to Desert Storm, I wish I had brought mine. We didn't have Camelbaks back then, only our plastic canteens and soft two-quart canteens. You could soak the canteen pouch to get a similar effect but the water wasn't as cool as the one in the water bag. Semper Fi.
I have an idea that involves certain safety concerns: I think the 22lr might go off if shoved in backward and shot at something hard. I guess a blank could work for testing purposes.
Yeah let's point a projectile backwards out of the round so that if it does hit something hard it shoots right back at us 🤷🤣🤣🤣🤣 I would definitely say there's some safety concerns there.🤣🤣🤣
The closing gel shot was pretty darn cool. There may be a way to make a 22LR cartridge fire on impact, but the engineering might be quite tricky. The slugs themselves were neat enough. I wonder what a DA would think of a slug that took core samples. They like to pile on. I wonder if a miniature proximity fuze can be made for a 12ga slug?
Back in the 80s there was a tunnel point .38 Special bullet that demonstrated the core cutting action demonstrated here. Made a bit more work for a surgeon working on a victim if they got to the ER, but I doubt improved stopping power. Just another exotic that didn't sell real well. PMC brand I think.
If the 22LR were to go off, would that technically classify as being a machine gun? I mean if you really think about it, ATF ruling says a machine gun is a weapon that fires more than one round with a single trigger pull, if the .22 were to go off as well you're technically firing two rounds with a single trigger pull.....you better hide your dog because that 22lr is now a machine gun!
A pin, or pins, pressed into the brass piece and standing proud that would strike the front side of the .22 rim would likely set off the .22 round as the shot shell was fired. With no rifling to impart spin on the .22 slug it would tumble out the shotgun barrel ahead of the brass slug, and strike the target first.
This has me thinking of how a thinner walled hollow slug would fly and impact a target. Why use a heavy slug when you can use a light, hollow one and slice through the target?
I watch all your videos but rarely leave comments. I do enjoy your videos a lot. I will always leave a thumbs up 👍 I hope that helps a little. Appreciate all your hard work getting everything together i am sure it takes a lot of doing to get u there and back. Thanks
How can you make a round where the 22 is the other way. Maybe a solid piece with hole for the primer to go off and fire the head of the 22 into the rear of the slug
You guys are stepping into the video game Borderlands "Torgue" gun manufacturing company's EXPLOSIVE rounds lolol. For real that game has some neat gun and ammo ideas.
Most 22 rimfires only have priming compound in the rim, but I had met (Italian) 9mm rimfire shotgun rounds where there was priming compound across the whole base. In similar circumstances (in a 10-bore slug?) these would have ignited when the base was domed-in by the pressure of the main charge. Some 9mm rimfires contain so much priming compound there's very little need for powder.
well i am at the part where you look at the one where the 22 didn't go off, ... what if you added a thumbtack to the striker area? like a thumbtack with a little of putty? so the shock wave pushes the thumbtack squeezing the putty to the sides? and into the 22's round triggering point?
I’d never criticize but I really do look forward to seeing a new video for Mr Jeff. As always I wish you good health, happiness and all the very best to you and your families.
how could you create a striker behind the 22 round that would not strike upon firing the 12, but would strike on the front slug's impact? that should be the question. would a heavy and hard BB (tungsten, perhaps) do the trick if cradled in a non-discarding carrier?
I thought you guys already tested a round kind of like this. The slug had a 22 nail gun load (no projectile loaded) in the nose and exploded when the slug impacted which smashed the rim and set off the primer. I liked that one better.
Yeah, if the tailpiece were extended about 1/4" & rest adapted to accommodate... as well as countersink & tap the center well... A shallow plug w/a gasket can be installed after the ""filler material"" thus making the full unit more entertaining upon impact. Thanks for sharing
Jeff, I think you demonstrated a major safety feature of rimfire cartridges, you should license this video to ammo makers. If there is no impact, of crimping nature, directly on the rim, there is no fire. I was as surprised as you were. So, if you added a a feature that would transfer force to the rim, it would go off.
This was by far the most dangerous thing ive seen you guys try. You always slant your hard targets so you don't get a ricochet back but you didn't think about the ramifications if the slug wasn't stable and tumbled hitting back end first
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@@TheRhinestoneHurricane I THINK I got them all in the playlist.
Call it a Dog's Penis, that's kinda what the 22LR looks like peeking out of there.
Not 3 times 😆 Try 1 Thousand times
A reporter asked Edison (How did it feel to Fail 1,000 times ?) And Edison replied (I Didn't Not Fail 1,000 Times the light build was a invention with 1,000 steps Great Success is built on failure, Frustration, Even Catastrophy
i wonder what would happen if you used some REALY hot blank .22 rim fires and put them in backwards. would it act like an incendiary or would it just dud
"We fire the whole bullet. That's 65% more bullet per bullet!"
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This seems like a bad idea, cool!
If the 22 went off it would technically make that shotgun a machine gun
@@spldrong no. It would be considered volley fire.
@@SpencerShirey1998 angel kronk:
*no no....he's got a point*
Bad ideas are bad all the time. That's what makes these guys fun... But of course we already know that...
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According to them, it was in fact, not cool
It's amazing how much punishment the 22 priming compound will take without going off. Nice job guys, it takes a little bit of bravery/faith to pull the trigger on those rounds. Be careful out there!
I mean whats a extra 22lr when your firing a 12gauge
@@thedude7726 Quite noticeable if it hits you in the forehead or pops a breech I would think.
That's what I was thinking. That's when you get behind a tree and shoot it with a string
@@scottmarshall6766 lmao ok buddy
It did surprise me. The rim was sitting on a hard shoulder and I thought with SO much force slamming against it, they'd have to go off.
Given some of the highly priced commercially available slugs you guys tested, that went all over the place, it's so weird to see something as pinpoint accurate as this weird little contraption.
What I'd like to see is a similar slug, but without the hole being drilled all the way through and a .22 blank being put in the nose, that might go off on impact and get some crazy damage.
They actually made slugs like that for crocodile, yup, explosive.
The "power shot" rounds (like are used for driving nails into concrete) come in a variety of power loadings... If you took the highest power loading or if you just took a .22 round and filled it all the way up with the fastest powder you had, that might be interesting... I suspect that if exploding bullets were truly effective, then the military would switch to them...
@@seanseoltoir I guess the risk isn't worth the reward. Regular expanding bullets work great on soft targets, I guess you don't really need anything that could go _kasplooey_ in the shooter's face.
But damnit, I'd love to see such a round go off in a giant booger teddybear 🤣
@@h.a.9880 -- If they could work reliably, I would definitely load my rounds with them... They have been tried over the years, but their success rate was not that great...
Lol, I just said the same thing. Then I started reading the comments and noticed you too thought of this. i think a .22cal blank inserted into a lead slug with a solid noise would be cool.
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And here I thought it was a .357 magnum firing doorknob... ah well, still fun. The primer in the .22lr casing is spun into place and is along the outside edge and must be pinched to be set off - I can't think of any safe way to put a striker pin behind or in front of the .22lr casing rim to get that effect, possibly a short piece of copper wire taped onto the back of the assemblage?
The .22lr rimfire mechanic is absolutely awesome, it is technically a shape-charge primer in that the primer goes off all around the rear circumference of the cartridge and a jet of hell is squirted forward through the powder right at the back of the bullet. This is what makes it awesome for nail guns as well - it produces a very centrally distributed chamber pressure with the initial burn and this circulates the powder in a little swirly firestorm.
Having used Ramset nailers I concur
@@wantitprintit have you seen the impact of a 22 from striking a bunny in the chest and expanding through the meat almost to the back leg it's about a 9mm diameter, I cut one out following the dark red trail through the body and it opened my eyes to the damage at 60 metres from a 22
Thanks for the entertainment!!!! Evan has done it again! Another "odd ball" round that flies straight and does considerable damage. Good job Evan!!!!
Now figure out how to detonate the 22 round on impact.
The entertainment is par none.. but the Soyence cannot be denied.
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This is the best science channel on TH-cam. Great work guys.
You should check out Project Farm if you like testing
thanks Jim
Evan never fails to impress with his creations, you guys never fail to impress with a great show even if the round doesn't quite live up to expectations, must be why I keep coming back. Have a great week , see y'all next time.
thank you
That final 22 round was more interesting than it going off, I did not expect that
I've watched you guys a few years now... and every round gets weirder.
lol thanks
The lead coming from the back of the .22 shell was eye-opening for me. The pressures involved are gigantic.
Yet seemingly still not enough to ignite the primer.
@@ItsMrAssholeToYou if the back is closed, with a few bumps along the internal rim, the pressure that inverted it could set it off, and allow a good burn. I want to see a part two, tho this is old, gotta look around and see if its been done
Thank you for the plastisol gummy bear. It seems like a fantastic alternative to ballistic jell. You guys might have changed the game a bit here
I am still experimenting with it and hopefully I will get better working with it.
@@taofledermaus Experimenting or not, the bear this week had more chunky and meaty look to him. I liked it
Didn't know gummies could grow a goatee... wait, which yummy bear were you speaking of...?!
can you cast a gummy bear with a smidge of tannerite in the middle maybe?
No notifications for a long time from TFM.. Always great to visit you guys :)
I must be on the "S" list again. lol Good seeing you Lars.
@@taofledermaus I'm definitively on it...
I thought they were door knobs. I had mixed feelings, but officially I would think such a thing would be a bad idea.
good im not the only one who was a little confused at the thumbnail... im like why are they putting shotgun shells with 22s in the slug in doorknobs
@@razoredgechris I didn't read the title and just saw the thumbnail and thought it was a design for a push button lock doorknob. Would be a cool concept, maybe with something bigger tho, like 9mm
Seeing the 22 shell deformed like that was nuts! Solid shooting as always OG, I feel he was definitely holding back a core sample joke or 3
Interesting that the 22 through the gel didn't compress hard enough, fast enough to set off the powder.
As always, a good video and interesting content.
or it compress too quick.
I think that the problem may have been that there was nothing for the head of the 22 casing to push against. If the 22 had been dropped into a seal tube in the slug, there might have been a different outcome, however the problem would be the rim of the 22 casing, which would prevent the tube being a snug fit to the 22 casing.
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Would have like to have seen one of the .22 rounds against something hard to see if that set the round off and gave it any extra penetrating power but great vis as usual!
I was thinking about a little pin on the gas seal or something like that
I think it was the guy 1shottv that was shooting something similar to these and his was firing the 22. Would have to go back and check to be sure.
I'd be a bit wary of doing that without cover if it shoots in whatever direction
Lead plate
Looking at that .22 that had the whole back bent in, I'm wondering if the fact that it bent the whole middle in meant that there was less direct pressure on the primer. I don't know much about how rimfire primer works but I know at least on my rifle the imprint looks a lot "sharper" if that's what you want to call it.
That Flock of Seagulls reference was freaking HILARIOUS. Officer Greg is a comedic freaking genius dude.
That's neat! I've done just about everything there is with .22 rounds, but this is new. In arrow tips and the end of straws is how we had fun as kids.
I miss your childhood
@@ASBO_LUTELY luckily the random .22's missed his childhood too......
The brass casing just rupures, and makes a pop. Straws don't make a barrel, obviously you haven't the slightest idea how ballistics work... Joe, is that you? Watch out for lungs on the ground, they're quite slippery.
@@junglie You're none too bright, are you?
Take one sheet paper and roll into a cone.
Remove bullet from cartridge and place open end of cartridge over the end of the cone, being careful not to spill the powder. Tape it in place.
Fill a Ziploc with white gas and place in the cone.
Toss out a convenient second story window onto a hard surfaced courtyard.
I love how it leaves a strand of the gel hanging out, I'd call it the Spaghetti maker, just seems right. Nice job Evan, you never cease to amaze us.
I'm glad Evan enjoys crafting these. I sure enjoy watching them
Would love to see one of those rounds got the lead plate or the steel plate. Secondary ignition would be almost a guarantee.
Thanks for the entertaining content 🤙
I just want to say this, officer Greg is my favorite and best cop. Keep it up, please, I love this content.
As I drove up the 5 yesterday and looked at the temperature I assumed we weren’t getting a video this week. OG wasn’t exaggerating, it was hot. You two tough guys surprised me with another cool vid.
I think it got up to 105 when we were out there. Glad we didn't have 10 slugs to shoot lol
Man the creativity of Evan is amazing. Super cool, devastating slugs. The plastisol gummy was cool!
Thanks, you should check out my channel th-cam.com/video/nq1KJCVGkig/w-d-xo.html
Reminded me of the “HESH” round video. Had to go rewatch it and got a pleasant flashback of Danny being behind the trigger. One of the great things of videos is the ability to see the ones we miss.
Very cool. Glad to see you’re still making videos.
And clearly the plastisol eliminates the need for a tarp.
thanks!!
Put the .22 in the front of the slug, so it's primer hits first. A .22 blank or nail gun charge, would be interesting
They should make it to where it fires the 12 guage into the target, then a firing pin fires into the .22 Lr and sets it off, that would be crazy.
Turn the 22r around. Done it before. Works.
Australia.
Pretty sure that would be considered a DD by the Alphabet crowd. But it does sound like fun
There's an arrow head that more or less does this with a .357
A Rube Goldberg gun. Or something from "Pimp my gun". We heard you like guns, so we put a gun in your gun, now you can shoot a gun with your gun.
I was worried it would impact tail first and shoot back at the shooter... not the best outcome! Love your show :)
As there is no barrel the 22. wouldn't be very fast. Maybe not even fast enough to make it back to the OG.
But what "could" work is a Slug with a hole not quite drilled completly drilled through and filled to the brim with primer. That "should" ignite on impact. Or at launch inside the shotgun chamber.
Would be interessting to see. But only being shot by a string sttached to the trigger. I don't want to see the OG loose some fingers over a stupid idea.
THAT CAN HAPPEN
I worry about it detonating on impact and sending the .22 casing, which is lighter than the bullet, back at the shooter. Looking for a name, maybe "suicide slug"?
At 3:50, on the first shot, I thought I saw an eyeball flying forward along with the shades after impact. I had to rewatch it to make sure Brandon was still OK. You had me really worried since he's my favorite on the crew. No offense to anyone else there.
Holy crap, youre right. Wtf was that? It looks like one of those spherical compasses.
That was absolutely crazy how well those worked and how straight they fly! Great show for both you and Evan!
TL;DR: it never went off. Pressure of passing through the ballistic gel pushed the 22LR projectile backwards into the casing and out the back of the 22 shell itself. The 12gauge slugs flew true and cut out a tube in the gel.
Testing starts at 3:44.
In theory could you have a round that does that, goes backwards, and pushes out blades inside ballistic gel?🤔 I'll keep dreaming for now haha,Great Video Guys!
Well.... there is something of that nature with broad heads...so I should think that theoretically it's possible.
@@DIVeltro Hmm Interesting, No kidding! Thank you!
It would probably have to be spring loaded rather than powder powered.
@🍀Witheringexistence🍀 Okay Will do, Many thank's
Goes backwards...? So a bullet that fires back at the shooter. Sure, why not.
The most successful of these I've seen have been 22 blanks that are mounted with the case head on the front of the slug, because you've still got two points of contact to set the blank off.
Italians tried that : nobody told how well it works.
I know what your thinking ___ yes I can
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I saw Kentuckey Balistics do a vid with Evan's slugs the other day. I hadn't realised he had an actual business selling these things until then, maybe give his business a shoutout next time?
ya meant to put the 22 in the front of the slug so it hits the primer end against the target. but dont have the hole all the way through the slug or the 22 might come back to you
You could also use blanks so that the 22 does not come back at you.
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One of the best home spun slugs episodes, great accuracy, hard hitting and,,,great shooting. Tanks
I'm not a native of the San Joaquin Valley, but everytime I've been there in the summer it was both hot and humid, so thank you for still giving us videos.
I subscribe to most of the other gun channels OG references, but this has come to be the only gun channel I still watch every video of. I never comment, mostly because this account is clearly not a burner, but wanted to thank you for the countless hours you guys put into preparing, filming, and editing. I know words are cheap, but I do mean them.
Thank you Jordan. That makes me happy.
First impression before watching: if the .22 ignites on impact its casing should be propelled back towards the shooter since its mass is much lower than the bullet's, and there is no rear wall to it's chamber. I would advise against this...
After seeing the video I have to agree that .22 primers are pretty tough. That, and Evan Perry makes really impressive slugs! Still love these guys and this channel, but I believe unnecessary risk was taken here.
Unnecessary risk?
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Especially when you consider tumbling of the slug. It only flew straight without the .22. With the round inside it could have changed the aerodynamics and induced a tumble. Then the rimfire could have potentially come right back at the shooter.
of course this is an evan creation. of course it is. the mad lad always delivers.
I hope that cabbage was spoiled!
Thanks for the shout out, I’m glad you are getting good use out of the circus tent.
As always, love watching you fellows do what you do. All in the name of fun.
Thanks again, Jeff. Stay safe out there.
thanks Jeff!
“Their not upset over at Demoranch” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
OG is awesome and keeps it real. Taoflederfolks all day!
Who else thought the thumbnail was a doorknob with a bullet inside?
I though that was a home defense security feature.
I can see this used for hunting being that it will make a wound track that cannot close on it's own due to the hole in the middle cutting out a tube of meat. In doing so it ensures that the animal will bleed out.
High speed physics is amazing. I love everything you guys do. far more science than demo-lotion ranch lol. keep on shooting, stay safe. Blessings from sunny England. (not too sunny of course).
Thank you. You can have some of our sun. lol
What if you put a small bearing on the wading lined up with the .22 so that when the shot goes off you have a harder impact onto the primer? Just a thought. or even a finishing nail cut down after poking it through the wading.
My dad died 3 years ago. I was cleaning out the barn recently and found a hidden storage area. I found some long guns, some more long guns and a barrel of freedom seeds, in all calibers. Makes me wonder where the 22 Hornet is? I hope I find it! I now have 410, 12 & 16 guage shot guns. I didn't know how bad I needed a 410 shot gun! It's my new squirrel & racoon gun...
As always, thanks for the interesting ballistics content!
thanks Skip
I'm seeing the slug tumble and hit the target backwards, igniting the charge, and sending a .22 bullet in the general direction of the one that fired the shot in the first place
@@aaa69200 Still, does not seem like a good idea.
@@aaa69200 We saw with the last shot how high the resistance of the gel can be. So if the round landed backwards, the gel could represent a breech face, and the brass slug would become the chamber. So, I really wouldn't try it except under much more controlled conditions.
@@aaa69200 1/4 inch drywall will stop just any round that fires off in open air. With out the berral containment and friction. There is just no presher bilt up.
Thankfully that can’t happen. If you throw a handful of 22 rounds into a fire and stand by it the rounds will cook off, though without a pressure vessel (barrel) to direct the bullet, the round just explodes and the bullet and case barely move at all.
@@BobWidlefish In this case, if it's a snug fit in the slug, you do have a chamber, so it's like a .22 revolver without the barrel, not like a round burning without a chamber at all.
If you turn the 22 around, the 22 bullet may actually go off and send that 22 right back at the shooter. Call it the suicide round.
Excellent thanks! Maybe install a needle to trigger the primer on impact. With a closed slug bottom (screw system plus needle)
That is one gnarly slug, awesome!
Thanks, you can see how I made them here th-cam.com/video/nq1KJCVGkig/w-d-xo.html
Hmmm... the slugs with the .22LR's in them COULD potentially be called the "22-12 double tap" depending on whether they can be made to fire on impact
Something could probably be arranged, but a rimfire round is not the ideal way to achieve this. A hole in the front of a slug, drilled 7 mm deep at 4.5 mm diameter then most of the way through at 3 mm diameter, filled with power to the top of the 3 mm part, capped with a large pistol primer with a 4.32 mm steel "B" sitting on top of it, held in place with a ring of glue, would be more sensible. I know one powder that could fit the energy of a .45 ACP round into a 10 mm long, 3 mm wide cylindrical space, and I'd be wanting to use a long string to pull the trigger if I was trying to fire that stuff out of a shotgun. Expected effects: BB goes forward briefly and slug expands a bit inside the gel block.
Anti-material.
@@SableagleSadly, as a UK resident, my knowledge of what you just detailed is sorely lacking. I'd definitely like to see a working prototype though.
It's always interesting to see what you guys are going to shoot next. Stay safe and may GOD bless.
thanks Robert
Just watched again. "Jerry Michelob" and the Ray Liotta jokes were HILARIOUS Greg! The one liner OG!
Get a desert water bag. It's canvas, squareish, with a stiffening dowel sewn into the top, and an organic cork at one of the top corners, also a rope sewn into the top corners to carry it on your shoulder.
Water slowly seeps through the material and keeps the water inside cool through evaporation, if you're in some thick dust it will coat the outside of the bag as it sticks to the humidity on the outside of the bag.
If you leave it alone for a long time, of course all the water inside will evaporate out, but in desert conditions you will use the water too fast to notice any loss in the volume of available drinking water.
We bought these at the PX when I was stationed in 29 Palms, those things were a little bit of luxurious cool water during training out in the field. When I went to Desert Storm, I wish I had brought mine. We didn't have Camelbaks back then, only our plastic canteens and soft two-quart canteens. You could soak the canteen pouch to get a similar effect but the water wasn't as cool as the one in the water bag.
Semper Fi.
I have an idea that involves certain safety concerns: I think the 22lr might go off if shoved in backward and shot at something hard. I guess a blank could work for testing purposes.
Yeah let's point a projectile backwards out of the round so that if it does hit something hard it shoots right back at us 🤷🤣🤣🤣🤣 I would definitely say there's some safety concerns there.🤣🤣🤣
You like to live dangerously.
Conclusion: the 22 doesn't detonate , it just behaves silly, by swallowing itself !
The closing gel shot was pretty darn cool. There may be a way to make a 22LR cartridge fire on impact, but the engineering might be quite tricky. The slugs themselves were neat enough. I wonder what a DA would think of a slug that took core samples. They like to pile on.
I wonder if a miniature proximity fuze can be made for a 12ga slug?
Back in the 80s there was a tunnel point .38 Special bullet that demonstrated the core cutting action demonstrated here. Made a bit more work for a surgeon working on a victim if they got to the ER, but I doubt improved stopping power. Just another exotic that didn't sell real well. PMC brand I think.
No criticisms. Just a great video. And I love experimental rounds! God bless y’all.
Thanks 👍
So this round needs a third part that strikes the 22 After impact
if you do a review of this slug it would be interesting to see what happens when fired at a concrete block or anything solid and weighty.
If the 22LR were to go off, would that technically classify as being a machine gun? I mean if you really think about it, ATF ruling says a machine gun is a weapon that fires more than one round with a single trigger pull, if the .22 were to go off as well you're technically firing two rounds with a single trigger pull.....you better hide your dog because that 22lr is now a machine gun!
now dont give them any ideas
I love your show, Watchin it for a long time. That cop is the only one I liked in my life.
A pin, or pins, pressed into the brass piece and standing proud that would strike the front side of the .22 rim would likely set off the .22 round as the shot shell was fired. With no rifling to impart spin on the .22 slug it would tumble out the shotgun barrel ahead of the brass slug, and strike the target first.
Make slugs that hold 9mm. That way, when the slug hits the guy, the 9mm goes off and blows the lung out!
hahahaahahah
Evan makes some pretty cool rounds. He needs to be hired by federal in the R&D department.
What about mounting it backwards or ever a .22 blank into a blind cavity?
That 22LR on the last test gives new meaning to “head down the @$$”
This has me thinking of how a thinner walled hollow slug would fly and impact a target. Why use a heavy slug when you can use a light, hollow one and slice through the target?
Thanks, now the MacGyver theme is stuck in my head
I watch all your videos but rarely leave comments. I do enjoy your videos a lot. I will always leave a thumbs up 👍 I hope that helps a little. Appreciate all your hard work getting everything together i am sure it takes a lot of doing to get u there and back. Thanks
thank you very much!@
How can you make a round where the 22 is the other way. Maybe a solid piece with hole for the primer to go off and fire the head of the 22 into the rear of the slug
Wonder if turn it around and use a blank? Concussion wound?
You guys are stepping into the video game Borderlands "Torgue" gun manufacturing company's EXPLOSIVE rounds lolol. For real that game has some neat gun and ammo ideas.
Most 22 rimfires only have priming compound in the rim, but I had met (Italian) 9mm rimfire shotgun rounds where there was priming compound across the whole base. In similar circumstances (in a 10-bore slug?) these would have ignited when the base was domed-in by the pressure of the main charge. Some 9mm rimfires contain so much priming compound there's very little need for powder.
Good stuff, lads. Excellent performing "Evan" slugs.
Love this channel and the viewers that send these awesome projectiles.
if that slug tumbles , and the 22 round is facing the user on impact and it goes off , could it shoot back at you?
For a second I thought this was a doorknob gun designed for home defense.
Hey props to officer Greg, dude comes up with some good references and doesn’t miss a word when he’s explaining something. Pretty impressive speaker
Thanks
well i am at the part where you look at the one where the 22 didn't go off, ... what if you added a thumbtack to the striker area? like a thumbtack with a little of putty? so the shock wave pushes the thumbtack squeezing the putty to the sides? and into the 22's round triggering point?
Under heavy shock the priming compound of 22's can/will crumble and dislodge from the compound channel or groove inside the casing.
So courteous of you to give the bad guy a few free rounds for a reload. Such kind acts of empathy restore my faith in humanity
I’d never criticize but I really do look forward to seeing a new video for Mr Jeff. As always I wish you good health, happiness and all the very best to you and your families.
Thank you Wesley
Great video guys! Love the core samples haha
thank you!
The Flock of Seagulls reference is an example of why I have notifications on for this channel
lol
how could you create a striker behind the 22 round that would not strike upon firing the 12, but would strike on the front slug's impact? that should be the question. would a heavy and hard BB (tungsten, perhaps) do the trick if cradled in a non-discarding carrier?
I thought you guys already tested a round kind of like this. The slug had a 22 nail gun load (no projectile loaded) in the nose and exploded when the slug impacted which smashed the rim and set off the primer. I liked that one better.
Yeah, if the tailpiece were extended
about 1/4" & rest adapted to
accommodate... as well as
countersink & tap the center well...
A shallow plug w/a gasket can be
installed after the ""filler material""
thus making the full unit more
entertaining upon impact.
Thanks for sharing
Jeff, I think you demonstrated a major safety feature of rimfire cartridges, you should license this video to ammo makers. If there is no impact, of crimping nature, directly on the rim, there is no fire. I was as surprised as you were. So, if you added a a feature that would transfer force to the rim, it would go off.
Nice Slugs. But why try to fit the 22. from behind?pushing the 22. In the front of the slug with a little pin between, could start the bullets.
Awesome as usual! Keep ‘em comin!
This was by far the most dangerous thing ive seen you guys try. You always slant your hard targets so you don't get a ricochet back but you didn't think about the ramifications if the slug wasn't stable and tumbled hitting back end first
I wonder if you would tape a wire on the back of the slug across the back of the 22 if it would act to dent the rim and set off the cartridge.