These PS5 Controllers are FAULTY | Can they be FIXED?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ธ.ค. 2024
- Thanks to Phil for letting me have a look at these PlayStation 5 Controllers. One of them has no power at all and the other one has a few faulty buttons.
Let's crack them both open and see if we can work out what's wrong, and fix them!
Hope you enjoy!
Steve
PS. I'm not an expert in repairs at all. I do this for fun, and it may not be the best or safest way to go about repairing broken stuff. I'm pretty good at melting plastic though. Please don't copy me - I'm an idiot.
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Steve a tip for you with PlayStation controllers: when it comes to the buttons not working or erratic behaviour on PlayStation 3,4 and 5 controllers, it is almost always down to pressure on the flex membrane. behind the membrane is a foam pad that gives pressure but over time it squashes down and becomes ineffective. To remedy this i have fixed hundreds of controllers by dipping the foam pad in IPA which causes it to swell initially but when it dries it goes back to its original size and thickness and restores function. i hope this helps with future PlayStation controller repairs.
I usually try to take it out and put it back in at a slight angle, but I do the IPA thing too. Works very well.
I had that issue on an original iPod
I think you have just saved my PS4 controller. I need to do this once I get off work.
Typical bad engineering/cost saving design.
@@-Brunnen-GAlso making people without knowledge of how to repair shell out 80 dollars for a new controller.
My grandfather who was a mechanical engineer said "sometimes things just need a good taking apart."
we took that to heart repairing mopeds in the early 2000's. A lot of fun and worked wonders on it.
I think it worries it into working.
You just gave me the locations of the screws when I get my ps5, thank you Steve!
Great fix! I got 3 ‘faulty’ PS5 controllers for £33 in an auction - all with ‘stupid’ quick fixes. One had clearly been dropped in a toilet too - the smell when I opened it up will live with me forever 🤢
dam must of been owned by some real gamer there, just gaming on the toilet. Going to the toilet = -kills, gaming on the toilet = +kills
I tried that but can't find anything for cheap. Every sale goes up to like 40$. I'll fool around at 20$or even better 10$. Got an og version 1 nothing wrong but super small drift on right stick. And a version 2 for 27$. Figured I hit up the apps when they had the controllers on sale at 55$all over.
Love how you just dive in and try to fix stuff, it's like a little DIY adventure! 🎮💡 Those controllers really make you appreciate the simple things... like working buttons 😂. Keep up the good work, can't wait to see what you tackle next! 🔧😄
I used to have the distinct displeasure of working for PSN Hardware Support. The number of controllers that failed for this exact issue was immense - and a broken trigger as well. The issue is as you have suggested - the tension just wears off over time - sometimes really quickly. As for the adaptive trigger - the problems were caused by cost-cutting and using the tiniest and weakest spring you can imagine. A £50 controller useless because of a cheap ass 2 pence spring.
I was VERY happy when I could finally quit that place after 3 years of utter hell from consumers calling me about that. And little Johnny spending all their credit cards on Fortnite.....
PS4 controllers also had a trigger problem, they were held in by really weak plastic hinges that could break easily if someone used slightly too much pressure when using the triggers.
It's always interesting to see how you work my name into a rap 😂. Good video, man. I've been thinking about diving into fixing controllers for resale.
You sir, are a legend had a broken pad for ages, followed your steps in here and like magic, back up and working, thank you 🎉
"X Zero - Yes!" 15:04 I had to laugh so hard. Never heard anybody ever say zero to the circle button. So funny. That was the first video I saw from your channel and I really liked it. Looking forward for more.
Good to know ! My first PS5 controller has a different issue though and you can't test that with the program either. I can't use the central button (trackpad) any more, it clicks only once in a while. But I don't fancy taking it fully apart without knowing if I can fix it. So I just use it for games that don't need this button.
I was waiting for the music in the outro. You did not disappoint :)
I am not a fan of rap but I can't help but smile when you do it and I never skip?
Why wouldn't they just...make this a latched ribbon cable like the others? Seems like a big design flaw. Great video as always!
It's been like that since PS2, I guess it's some kind of Sony's fetish with their controllers...
@@SirBig Their H model PS2 controllers had cables that were crimped into connectors and when they failed you had to complete desolder the connector and junk both the connector and ribbon and solder a new connector on that allowed you to insert and remove new contact pads.
@@oOignignoktOo1even some dualshock 3s had a connector as well
You cant sell more if they dont fail. This is clearly a design flaw that engineers at That level would know about.
Sony makes their money off of accessories and the gamepad is the thing which receives the most wear over time. It behooves Sony (the creators of the terrible and expensive proprietary Memory Stick format) to save every single penny on controllers, especially if it causes them to fail early. It's Sony's way or the highway when they decide to do or not do something, and they won't let logic or the truth get in the way.
Remember how "the rumble motors would have disrupted the sixaxis functionality" on PS3 controllers?
And then people complained a LOT, and Sony put the rumble function back in, and the sixaxis functionality was unaffected?
Sony do how they please and not gonna let logic get in the way of being a stick in the mud. They even let their stupid Memory Stick garbage ruin the Vita's chances to gain portable market share from Nintendo.
Sony CEO (Godzilla?) was like: "we don't want a share of that sweet sweet portable console market if it means we can't sell overpriced proprietary Memory Sticks too"
You: Square, Triangle, x (cross, let that one slide) and zero.
My mind: Noooo its a Circle.. 😜
In my mind the X button is actually the cross button
he also calls it O like the letter
Haha same
I just finished fixing two ps5 controllers myself. What a coincidence. Those issues with de flex pcb has been around since the ps3
New favorite song by VOS. That one was a banger for sure! You really do have talent man.
awesome stuff as always Steve (long time lurker) .
i had the same a while ago when a mate of mine asked me to try and repair his Limited Edition Gran Turismo PS4 controller with similar issues.....
... dont tell im, i went on ebay and bought a replacement controller same part as i couldnt fix it lol, its still in bits in the bottom of my cupboard of doom
Great upload buddy , your videos have been awesome.
You are a massive inspiration to us smaller content creators 👍👍
Outro credits.. maybe one of the best uses of that cypress hill track..
Nice membrane.. 😂❤
This is also a similar problem with older dualshocks. Fixed a couple ds3s with a similar issue. Added a piece of foam or cardboard for pressure to make better contact
Thumbs up for the on point hand flourishes.
I was just thinking as you did your diagnosis,he missed a good oppo there for insane in the membrane....You did not disappoint!
Seems like at 9:04 you tested the pad without the black plastic piece & screw of the battery. If you don't put it, there isn't enough pressure on the flex circuit board of the buttons by the motherboard and they don't work or just partially.
Hi Steve, not sure if you read messages on your comment section but I have a new found respect for your talent!
I’ve watch you channel and am a member on your other channels too, I brought a broken singing fish and managed fit it because of you! But my eagerness to fix my sons Nintendo lite has beaten me I’ve been trying to change the charging port and just can’t get the small contacts to join 😢 I’ve been sitting at out dinner table trying for 3 hours now, 5 new port melted 😢 I’ve cleaned it back up and have give up! There just so small I can’t get it to join! I’m beat, gutted I really think your a super talented guy well done on you channel and please never stop!
Insane in the membrane! That is in my head all day 😁 awesome mate ✌️
I’m glad I’m not the only one who uses cardboard for a fix haha.
By the way (and this isn’t advice) as you’ll see from an upcoming video on an electronic piano… I had an problem with those carbon contacts and I thought ‘I’ll just clean off the loose carbon… and like you, the cotton buds were black. I did a quick google and found I was making it worse as it was removing the conductive carbon from the substrate. It made it worse and some of the keys didn’t work still. I then got a soft pencil (7B or something) and rubbed that over the pads and the graphite stuck to it and sorted them all out! ‘Apparently’ that’s a temporary fix however a year later and plenty of playing, they’re working perfectly!
Previous dualshocks used to have a foam pad behind the ribbon contact to push it up against the contact pad on the board when it all closed up. Sometimes the pad wore down and you'd need to replace it with something of equivilent thickness. Weird that the dualsense doesn't appear to have one.
Thank you! My X button stopped working and I put a piece of cardboard behind there and it worked!
so nice to learn something new from Mr rapping stez sick stick fix
Might have been said previously, but the mic mute button I believe is an on-controller function to mute the onboard mic. Possibly the reason why the signal doesn’t traverse the cable?
Lol great fixes well done Steve 😊
NIce one that "insane in the membrane" at the end.
Props to you for the cannibal village from monkey island 1 as the wallpaper to your pc 👍
Playstation controllers are so dumb with the ribbon cable pressure issue, this issue has been present for generations
This membrane design has been used for years by sony I believe since the dualshock came out. Most of the time fixing them, I just had to either replace the foam that applied the back pressure, or simply let the foam expand again. Sometimes, the conductive material just faded away over time and had to replace the entire membrane. Cheap fix, but can be annoying.
This is such an old and enduring problem that nowadays if the design uses these contact connectors I immediately tackle it to cost cutting or something like planned obsolescence...
Surefire way of killing anything that could potentially go through some temperatures thresholds, general warping, and stuff like that.
Thinking back, I probably discarded more than a few keyboards and other electronics because I didn't know about this.
The dome buttons with carbon contacts also seem to always have problems when they degrade or get contaminated with something, and sometimes cleaning the thing up just doesn't solve it. But these days you can find replacement pads.
3:28 "It looks okay" - the StezStix Gopher, 2024
Steve, as always thank you for your vids, always look forward to them! Out of interest what benches are you using? Cheers mate.
That was a nice fix. You know your craft now and the rap worked well. You are a cute guy. I can see why she loves you. 💕
Love the outro song!
After few hundreds of those fixed, i dont even try to diagnose it - i just replace the foams under, whole ribbon and the gummies
Ahhhh the membrane issue. Yes, on Ebay they are now selling controller cases with more plastic behind the membrane to fix that issue since Sony wants to sell you a whole new one since they havent fix that.
That ribbon cable/connection is legacy, is from the PS3 or even PS2 era.
I always love the music you use.
Where is it sourced from?
"Im off to get my other controller" (and the vape disapears off the table...) 😂
Never noticed to you said lol
I enjoy over the shoulder stez cam
Much greet Stez. Omega from Computer Booter in California. I sit at my desk doing repairs all day and when I'm not upgrading PS5 controllers to have hall effect sticks, I'm having this exact issues. I've never thought to do the whole cardboard thing behind the membrane, but usually, I just give it a quick clean where you did on the 2nd controller. We never go all out and take apart the whole thing. Having said that, I do feel like this is EXTREMELY common. I have no clue how these things get to the point where they need a quick clean to work again...but such is life I guess...
I have started to put some silica gel bags in bigger consoles I repair which does absorb the moisture and keep the electronics inside in good condition. I am still figuring out how we can put it in smaller devices for saving them from the liquid damage or moisture.
I have a piece of electric tape on one of the bumpers of my 360 controller either because the switch moved just enough it didnt click properly or the plastic on the button wore off by that much.
The pads being different internally diesnt surprise me much - we had an whole box of broken Dual Shock 2 controllers, and trying to get matching models to get at least a handful of them working was nearly impossible.
Controller faults - something I can relate to! I have persistent issues with Xbox controllers suffering from analogue stick drift, from sometimes as little as 6 months old. Prompted by this video and finally deciding “I’ve had enough of this”, I researched the problem. The transistors are crap, and Hall effect is the way to go. I will be ordering a Machenike G5 Pro to replace the shit overpriced Microsoft junk. I could keep replacing the transistors but that is not solving the overall problem. Appreciate your work 👍
I've repaired a few PS5 controllers and was wincing when you started separating the shell while the top screws were still in 🙃
Triangle, square, CIRCLE, X
Hi Steve there's a tutorial on instructables called PCB binary watch by taifur and I think it would make a great video if you tried to build it
Haven't got a ps5 yet but did many PS4 controller ribbons and membranes over the years, guess nothings changed with Sony controllers then, thanks for the video may help me in the future 👍
Great video, it good to membrane for later...
I've used a cut up playing card to back a flexible flat cable. They're the perfect thickness and a bit stronger than paper or cardboard.
Beauty Steve 👍
2:18 Watching Steve dismantle the controller be like: "No, no, no, no, no, no, no, wait, wait, wait, wait" 😂
Yep. Me too (screw behind the shoulder button)
Just a friendly word of advice: Cleaning membranes with IPA will actually remove the conductive paint. This is why your Q-tip was black. It worked in the end because the shim you added increased the pressure on the pad and improved the conductive area. But it's probably going to feel weird playing games, and it's hard to know how long the shim will work.
I love your videos, but this is one of those rare cases where copying you could make things worse. At a guess, someone had already tried to "clean" it with IPA before you did. This is why they were shiny.
The best fix I've used is to buy a new membrane and/or a PCB. There *may* be a technique involving conductive paint, but I've never found it. 😓Keep up the good work though, all your videos are great!
I worked on a controller with the same issue however the traces on the membrane where damaged, a replacement membrane was only like £3 though, easy and cheap fix
@@yotoprules9361 true. Every time I’ve had to fix one of these the flexible pcb membrane has been barely 1$. Same for the rubber pads. PSP took the same approach. Could be a Sony design choice.
@@pfff it might've been cheaper tbh but I only bought 1.
I want a formal apology for calling the circle button zero 😂
When I saw you add the cardboard, I thought "SOLID"
Triangle square ex and zero? Never heard them that way before!
Love this guy his voice is soothing and he looks like tonight's show host Steven Allen. There is great nostalgia there and he is good at what he does
Everytime Gordon the Gopher appears it makes me laugh out loud. Thus waking my family who are asleep upstairs...
Haha that outro was perfect
Those controllers are supposed to have a piece of foam to keep pressure on the trace contact maybe that’s an earlier version of the controller?
7:16 As an aside based on personal experience with the DualSense it is a nice controller. However I have noticed the odd misinterpreted controller input. It happens once in a while and usually during a rapid press. My guess is that in places where the controller is relying on floating contacts that this is where issue occurs. As in forceful pressing or movement of the controller causes the contacts to move slightly causing a dodgy connection / signal and input read. At least that's what I'm going with and definitely not me being caggy handed. 😂
Zero or Circle? X or Cross? The buttons are shapes not letters. 😄😄
You need StezStix cardboard so that the next poor soul can look up your fixes in 20 years time.
Hi Dave!
I have fixed multiple of these issues by cleaning the entire ribbon cable with ipa, they are very sensitive to any dirt, had a few were the trace gets damaged at the point it connects to motherboard
Yeah, I once visited a friend, and his controller failed in a similar way.
And he insisted for me to look if it could be fixed. And he had most horrible and unsuitable tools (make-up tweezers and horrible screwdriver for glasses). And we were also a but under the influence.
i was able to disassemble it (it was a PAIN), find nothing wrong with it, assemble it back together... and it worked. And i had no idea WHY.
Ok, that explains it.
Monkey Island wallpaper! That’s how I know I subscribed to the right youtuber.
Design flaw should be a plug not just contacts to easy to fail
Why is an eraser used? Great work on repairs :)
Were these same controllers used in the titan sub?
best outro!
haha cypress hill reference ! Noice!
Quite a ridiculous connection system by Sony there - nice fix!
About the only thing I would do differently here would be to 3d print a small plastic wedge instead of cutting up cardboard. But based on @heatedgamer2931's comment about the foam, that might not have been a good idea.
I miss you a lot !!!!
I need to know the name of that Meow song. 13:49
Teal - lofive
Hi dont suppose you fancy looking at a 12v -240v inverter? Would make a good video happy to pay
8:33 did... did you put the cellophane part inside out?
Are you making all the background music for the montages?
It was the power of illumination as the light indicated function :D PS5 controllers are cheap. Buy them with stick drift, invest 2x50 cents in hall effect sensors and a little work and they are better than new. The ribbon cables are a pain.
I'm impressed that none of the controllers had stick drift issues since almost all the ones that I get to fix have that problem. Also, cleaning them internally is a nightmare!
13:43 "Mistakes were made" and Sony released revised versions to make improvements.
Triangle, X, Square and Zero? Did you really call it zero? That hurts my brain 😂
Brilliant, wonder how many went to landfill with that stupid fault
as soon as you ended with membrane I knew Cypress Hill was coming
We have so many of these come in for some reason. I literally cannot stand working on them.😊
Love your videos I love my Xbox OK I will. All ways be an Xbox guy an I'm 54 years old lol but I do love how easy the ps controller is to take apart an service
Guess we'll 👀
Clbuttic fix!! 👍👍
🎶 That's In-SANE... A bad mem-BRANE ! 🎵
I have 2 pads that since a software update the batterys on both die with in 20 to 40 mins of game play depending on the game 😑
I've fixed a few PS4 controller and in several cases when some buttons haven't been working, replacing the analog sticks have fixed the issue with other buttons. Super weird. But just an FYI.
Nice, good to know 👍🏾 thnx
I like the background music. "Meow meow meoooooow"...