I would never spend more than 300$ on a gpu. You just throw your money away If a game can't be played on a 300$ gpu, then it's not worth playing Imo, you should try and build a PC for the same price as a console, otherwise you're just blowing money I'm rocking a 1060 6gb and r5 2600 with 16gb ram. Max power system draw... 250watt!! You can build this for under 300$
@@Sofi-gz9uo LOL Consoles have been sold at a loss since the NES. Right now you can pay $600 for a console and get more than $800 worth of hardware. Do you mean to build a PC based on the price you'd pay or the actual price it costs the manufacturer to build it? The latter would be around a grand at launch, and then a few million units later it's about equal to the MSRP. For $1000 USD you can build a very capable PC, $600 is going to be tough to get more than medium settings at 120 FPS in new titles.
You never needed his help, you just had to watch the Verge's How to Build a PC video. If you can screw with confidence, you can screw just about anything! (humor)
F that. The range is 1-9, 1-3 is low end, 4-6 is mid range, and 7-9 is high end. 3050 is mid, 4070 Super is high end. That is what the 50 and 70 stand for.
Clams, eh? I'll have to find a monetary vendor to see the what the exchange rate from smackaronies to clams is. I have 75 smakaronies, and an odd button, but I don't think that would be enough...
@@marvinmallette6795That's not even close to how it works. Nvidia almost never goes below 5, so 5 is entry level for their product stack. The 40 series doesn't even have a 5, so that makes 6 "budget", 7 "mainstream", 8 "enthusiast", and 9 rich parents.
In 2018 a midrange card would cost you maybe $250-$300 and budget cards like the RX 480 4GB were at $110. Now midrange which should be the 4060-4070 cards are priced way too high for what they are. Needless to say I decided on a 4090 as the best value for what I do so that's what I got. Granted $2K is a hell of a lot to spend on a graphics card just to game and do some light content creation but the plus side is you don't have to waste weeks of time every year messing with game settings trying to squeeze out some more performance.
@@drunkhusband6257 Man my time frame was off by a few years. Where did all the time go :( It felt like just yesterday when I paid $700 for a used 1080ti at the height of the mining craze.
You can always buy last gen used, and you can save a lot. Both my current and previous GPUs were used, and they've been fine. Hell, I even resold the GPU for like 10% of what I paid (RIP). Sold off my old CPU too for like 25% of the price, and I was glad to give it a new home.
@@Brent_P It's a US thing. Here in Europe now is a great time to build. Intel Gen 14's are cheaper than Gen 13, and GPU's are at or below MSRP. Hate to say this, but you guys are doing it to yourselves. You buy despite the retailers raising the prices.
Love to see you still teaching people how to build computers. I remember your 1st gen i7 build for Newegg TV way back in the day, soon followed by the double build video with the 2nd gen i7 and i5 PCs. I think a retro retake of those videos would be really fun.
What a shame that the bottom end of the budget is above the cost of a console. When I got into PC mid range was $500 and it absolutely crushed console performance.
I mean Sony and Microsoft both lose money on their consoles. They make it back with the yearly subscription you need to play online and the fact that console games are usually 20-40% more expensive than pc. My brother and me did the math over 3 years and found a midranges custom pc setup (includes monitor, keyboard, mouse and headphones) breaks even with a ps5 or the newest Xbox. People forget to factor in the cost of their tv, their entertainment center, couch/chair, and most people buy decent gaming headset and accessories like a spare controller and the dual controller charger. Don’t get me wrong I am never for “pc master race” and have a gaming pc, a switch, and a ps5 and so does my wife and we love gaming across the board BUT we are starting to get annoyed at paying about 140 usd a year for us to both play our ps5s together.
Yeah $500 isn't mid range, even back 7 to 8 years ago, a mid range GPU such as the 2070 super cost me $450, so my overall system was probably in the $700-$800 range for a mid range build.....
Paul. I have been a sub since 2016. I have commented on your videos several times. I wanted you to know that your PC builds have been informative and entertaining. I have learned a lot from your videos. Good luck and keep up the good work.
I bought a new pc specifically because spending almost $1000 on a console paid for most of the computer and I can upgrade it down the road for less than replacing a console. PLUS now you have to install content on consoles, Online requirements, lack of game ownership BS, mod limitations... Plus the PC is more utilitarian for work an content.
This is the Gaming PC that i am planning to build for a friend: CPU: Ryzen 7 7700 (i know it's a bit overkill, but with this he can also upgrade his GPU in the future) CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 Digital (cheaper than zero dark in my country) Motherboard: MSI B650 Gaming Plus WiFi RAM: Teamgroup T-Force Vulcan 32 GB DDR5-6000 CL38 SSD: Kingston NV2 1 TB SSD: Random 2 TB HDD SSD: Random 512GB NVMe GPU: Gigabyte 7800 XT Gaming OC Case: Montech AIR 903 BASE black Power Supply: be quiet! pure power 11 700W Cable Extensions: Cablemod classic modmesh 8+8 black
Nice one. If your friend plays several new and old games, now he can decide where to install it. Old ones usually will be fine on the HDD! With that he can save space on the SSD and Nvme drives. And also, you never want to fill up an SSD or Nvme more than around 66%! It might cause performance issues filling up more than that. But better check a knowledge base for why is that. Needless to say, having a HDD in a today's build is not shameful at all. Trustworthy drives for casual data storage. Good luck for your friend with that build. His upgrade path would be first the SSD and Nvme drives to upgrade to 2 TB ones on both! The HDD will be just fine. Have fun boys.
Nice. What about the rest? Does he/she already have the monitor, speakers, keyboard, mouse, mousepad, headset, gamepad, and webcam? Those will easily double the budget.
I typed my comment before watching the video, this is the build that I have literally just completed in the last couple of days (just need a keyboard and a monitor to get me gaming on it) Ryzen 5 7600 - £189.98 ASRock B650m Pro RS (non WiFi) - £134.99 Corsair Vengeance 32Gb DDR5 6000Mts at CL30 - £114.98 Stock cooler for now GPU: Sapphire Pulse 7800XT - £479.99 Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 512Gb (for now) - £43.99 Case: Chillblast (Gamemax) Fnatic Commando - £19.99 Power Supply: Corsair CX750 non modular 80Plus Bronze - £69.98 Fans: 6 EZDIY ARGB fans from Amazon (the case had a single fan) - £46.99
@@aeroflopper Not needed at all. Gaming will almost never put a full load on your cpu and they're designed to handle that for many many years. This CPU won't get that hot given its low power requirement.
@musicforlifemc1006 while gaming my cpu is only around 5% utilised but still gets up to 60'C a stock cooler on my cpu will thermol throttle and thats not good at all.
Thx for the update Paul. Did you guys ever find out why Joe's SFF travel editing pc had issues on your trip? That might make for an interesting video, the troubleshooting, and fixing.
I think that's pretty reasonable for all new parts. I watched a video on another channel that tried to do a $550 build and ended up with something that wasn't too bad until the pulled out a 6500 XT. Worse yet, they were putting it in an A530 with a Gen3 slot. Had they spent $50 more, they could have had an RX 6600.
@@b0n3ZzZGR I'm not seeing a low profile option, and just like the 3050 6GB, it makes not sense to buy a full height model at that price when you can buy a full fat RX 6600 for $10 more.
having just completed a build: know your build from case to components, make sure as much as you can that they jive. Stay away from anything largely in terms of cpu air cooling unless it's noctua. If you don't have a specialized pc warehouse nearby you're likely going to have to order online for storage devices and memory. Oh, and even in a mid-pc look for cases with ample room for the power supply unit for cable traffic. It' will get congested, especially if you are gonna run a mid to mid-high gpu.
If you're within driving distance (I consider that about an hour) of a MicroCenter, they have a bundle deal with the 7800x3d, 32gb 6000mhz 32cl Gskill ram, and a well equipped Gigabyte mobo for $470. It's an incredible deal and I just recently purchased it.
Building my first PC, here's my plan for 1440p gaming: CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 Cooler: Deepcool AK500 ZERO DARK Motherboard: MSI MAG B650M MORTAR WIFI Micro ATX Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL32 Storage: Kingston NV2 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 GPU: Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB (Also considering the 7800 XT but I feel nostalgic for Nvidia, the GPU of my childhood lol) Case: Asus Prime AP201 Power: Corsair RM850x
Before the 2070... Lol I will admit prices have been steadily rising and people are never gonna be happy as long as they remember the times when the prices stayed the same but the performance went up@@drunkhusband6257
I remember when decent midrange pc used to be $500-$700 😢 crazy that todays midrange price range used to be the price you would pay for a high end setup just years ago
i remember times that courrent pricves looks like free. Fuck me buying 1gb drive for like 200 euro or monitors STARTING from 400. Shits cheap even now so dont moan.
You can easily. The key is with their software solutions like dlss 3 and FSR frame gen. If you want all settings maxed, with path tracing, then it gets a bit more complicated.
Micro center has bundles for CPU/MB/RAM. Yesterday I got a AMD 7800X3D, B650, and 32GB G skill DDR5 6000 (the ram in your video actually) bundle for $470. Matched it with a ASUS TUF 7800Xt with OC, 2TB WD Black NVME gen 4. G skill 750w 80+ gold. And a deep cool LS720 liquid cooler. Two additional 140mm fans. Bought a used case off a friend for $50. My full build cost $1450 with tax.
This is the video editing PC that i am planning to build for myself: CPU: Ryzen 5 7500F CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK400 DIGITAL WH Motherboard: Asrock A620M-HDV/M.2 (or cheapest matx AM5) RAM: Teamgroup T-Force Vulcan 32 GB DDR5-6000 CL38 SSD: Kingston NV2 1 TB GPU: Asrock Challenger Arc A580 OC Case: Deepcool CH370 WH PSU: be quiet! System Power 10 450W Fans: 2x Arctic P12 PWM PST Cable Extensions: Cablemod classic modmesh 8+8 white
Thanks Paul! I needed the update. Things seem to be moving fast this year and I don't get many breaks. Looking decent so far! 🎉 Let's keep it going. 🍺 Cheers.
That'll be $5,000 outside of the US, Canada especially. It's crazy that manufacturers have just abandoned the 80% of buyers to chase benchmark charts, especially those outside of the US. It's a sad state of affairs.
This is the ITX Gaming PC that i am planning to build for a friend: CPU: Ryzen 7 7700 (i know it's a bit overkill, but with this he can also upgrade his GPU in the future) CPU Cooler: Deepcool LT520 Motherboard: Asrock A620I Lightning WiFi (or cheapest ITX AM5 motherboard) RAM: Teamgroup T-Force Vulcan 32 GB DDR5-6000 CL38 SSD: Kingston NV2 2 TB (cheapest PCIe 4.0 2TB NVME) GPU: Asrock Challenger RX 7800 XT OC (cheapest 7800 xt) Case: Cooler Master NR200P (Black) Power Supply: FSP Dagger Pro 650W
This is literally the BEST video on the subject right now. Right to the point , interesting , and you talk fast so I really like that. Also you’re an expert on the subject. Respect from Switzerland bro 😊
Every PC I had to buy/build is because of the CPU! I am 57 years old started with 486k then P-III, 3200+ Sempron. My advice is: GET THE BEST CPU YOU CAN AFFORD, and build around that. The more cores, threads, L3 cache with the highest cycle rate (GHz) the better, unless you like buying a new processor every other or few years. My first build was an FX-8350 that ran over 10 years, still working, just now ran into high end games It can't run (got me pass not having to buy AM4). Now I got a 7950X that should carry for another 10 years.
@@godmode4708 you don't have to follow my advice, go ahead and buy core components or a new PC every 2 years. you also sound like the kind of guy that would put a 4090 RTX on a quad core.
BTW, Micro Center has lowered its 5800X3D/B550M/DDR4 3200 RAM bundle from $349 to $299 with even a $269 price if signing up for their credit card so, that and either an RX 6800 or 7800 XT GPU would give you a Mid to High range performance rig but, at more of a low range price :)
How so? It is all about needs. It might be overlooked if your only plan is for gaming. I have to balance a bunch of less than ideal things. Gaming, color accuracy, 4k resolution (32") and mid tier gpu. It isn't ideal in many respects, but the compromises I was ok with.
@@alpsalish The best GPU on the market is not going to magically give you 1440 x 2160 144hz or 3840 x 2160 120hz if it only supports 1080p 60hz, the quality of GPU you buy should match what your willing to spend on your display, I run a 7800X3D with a 7900XT on a 55" LG C1 OLED, at 3840 x 2160 120hz HDMI 2.1 Freesync Premium with SAM enabled, its magnificent! I started my build with my display and worked up to its full capabilities with my GPU as my budget got healthier.
Monitor prices have come down tremendously in the past few years. Sure you can spend a few thousand for a 4k OLED, but you can also find decent enough 1440p/4k monitors for a couple hundred dollars. I just bought a 32" LG Ultragear 165hz 1440p monitor for $200. The days of having to spend big bucks for higher resolution, high refresh rate monitors are long past. There is a lot of value to be had in mid range monitors. And I just bought a 55" 4k TV for $200. Neither are the nicest panels by any stretch but they still look very nice and left a lot of money left over for other things.
That feel when that GPU is still relevant now basically, and worse still it's AMD that's keeping it more relevant because the one and only damn reason I'd accept upscaling is because if I wanted to play newer games on my pos laptop but only FSR works, if I had a RTX GPU I'd have enough power that I didn't need the upscaling to begin with. DLSS is so fing stupid I swear to God. And all the GPUs are getting so much worse these days but at the same time other than Hairworks or RT or whatever the games aren't necessarily so super better looking now except for textures, the texturework is indeed beautiful now in a way mid 2010s games are not (they did look pretty rough tbh mid 2010s was like late 2000s textures even on Deus Ex HR) but other than needing more VRAM it just seems to me that you'd only need a brand new GPU for going to 4k or high refresh 1440p. I can still get away with low tier GPUs at 1080p. Even Far Cry 5 is playable on 750ti tier hardware.
@@buckstrucks4476 Oh no it'd literally be worse, I know this because the alleged RTX 3050 in laptop is around a GTX 980ti at best, which the GTX 980 roughly equals the RX 580 or 1060, which roughly equals the 1650 Super or 5500XT. It's at least in that range, I think the 5600XT was loosely like a 1660ti or 2060, the 5700XT was at least a 2070 if not on the same level as a 2070S or 1080ti. So for a 2050 mobile to be even at 1060 performance would be impressive, I highly doubt it's anywhere like that. Man. Imagine basically spending $1200 in 2022 to basically just a GTX 980ti. You can buy that GPU for like $100 right now.
That's not mid-range. That's a low-range piece of garbage PC. It makes me sad and angry that this is the reality of PC building today. Everything is driven by corporate greed and the people are stupid enough to pay those prices. Not realizing that the power is with the consumer. Everything could change for the better if people would just boycott all these trash companies' products.
Putting together a new home server: * Intel i5 12600k (will under volt, possibly under clock) * ASUS Pro W680 ACE * 32 GB NEMIX DDR5 4800MHz ECC (2x16GB UDIMMS) * Noctua NH-U12A * Noctua NF-A14 * Crucial P3 Plus 1TB x2 (RAID 1, for the OS) * Seasonic PRIME PX-750 * Fractal Design Define 7 * LG Bluray burner (WH16NS60) * WD Red Pro 4 TB x8 (RAID 10, for the ZFS pool) At some point I may add a discrete graphics card (possibly Intel Arc) to play with acceleration.
Then why don't you just buy a 12600 non k model. Undervolting is never good despite what people say, it creates both stability issues and damages the cpu long term.
If you're doing a server, why not use a motherboard with embedded Epyc processor? Much more suited and cheaper. Also instead of running eight 4tb WD Red drives, run four Seagate Exos 7E10's. More capacity, better drives and cheaper.
@@drunkhusband6257 Messing with volts and clock speed on a server is dumb. Just leave well enough alone, and as you said, use a non-K. Under volting and under clocking can also cause a bunch of stability issues.
@@drunkhusband6257 I chose the K model because you can't change clocks/voltages on a non-K model for starters... To be clear, undervolting does _not_ in any way shape or form damage the CPU - think about how that works. Overvolting is another story. Yes you can run into stability issues, that is why you test your configuration before you deploy.
@@AB-80X I looked at embedded Epyc but availability was an issue in my area. Regarding the disks, I'm not buying new, I am repurposing some old disks I already own. I have found 4 spindles to be a challenge for some of the I/O I want to do - I don't want to shell out for something crazy like PCIe flash.
I will say the recommendation about the rx 6800 xt is decent. Picked one up on sale last year for 439 and it’s about the equal of the 7800xt. No regrets for the money.
My computer is a Covid-era build that I've spent the last 4 years upgrading incrementally as I've seen fit/sales fit the build. I'm currently rocking this: -Ryzen 5 7600x -MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk WIFI -32GB Team Group T-Force Delta DDR5 6000 CL30 -ASUS TUF Gaming 3070 Ti -WD Black SN770 1TB -Crucial P5 Plus 2TB -EVGA 360 CLC AIO -Super Flower Leadex III Gold 850w PSU -Phanteks Eclipse P500A While I'm relatively pleased with how it operates, I've been looking at my GPU with some longing. For the amount of money I spent on it ($855 CAD), its largest problem is that 8GB VRAM buffer and Nvidia's annoying attitude for gaming GPUs. Would you recommend I look at getting something current gen (7800xt/7900xt/4070 TI Super), or just wait for them to announce the next lineup of cards? My budget for that would like to be below $500 USD, but I'm relatively flexible if the deal is good.
You can also look to spread out the cost by acquiring parts over time, especially parts that can be tested independently if needed. I am doing this for mini itx build for my son to take to college with him this fall.
@@lucasremnope I’m not since I live in Switzerland and have a very high income compared to the rest of Europe and world! 5 digits a month yet there are many who refuse to pay for tech that used to be by faaaar cheaper for mid range rig! by the way I have a 78003xd 4070ti Super 48gb 8000mhz ram and 3x4tb 990pro All of that on a Rog x670e gene cost me around 3000 bucks!😅 And I did spend another 2k for desk chair soundsytem so on and forth… 4K is useless even a 4090 does bottleneck it dsnt make any sense to spend 2k for a gpu that won’t do 4K properly on ultra settings!
If I was recommending a budget build it would be something like a i7 8700 which is a 6 core cpu that has the best value for the cost over any cpu on the market and then a 2080. You can build a great pc for around $600. There's not a single game you couldn't play on medium to high settings at 1080p. All these channels only recommend new components because companies don't make any money when you buy older stuff from someone else.
This is what I keep saying but a 2080 is a weird choice tbh. I'd need to see the price comparison, I think 5700XT used and 1080ti used also offer really compelling prices next to a 2080, or a RX 6600XT if you wanted newer, or you can go older and get a $100 GTX 980ti or even a $80 RX 580 8gb and play most stuff at 1080p. I can't remember, DLSS 3 at least was useable on older hardware right? Because the only thing is upscaling and I can use FSR on a 580 or 980ti or 1060. But you really don't need it, and a used CPU, actually it's too old now imo but like there's $100 z77 board with a 3770 and cooler and RAM I've seen floating on ebay. You can play games with a couple hundred dollars, and with $600 you can play new games at high detail levels at 1080p.
@@drek9k2 yeah i'm biased in favor of nvidia evga cards that's why I said 2080. my point is people don't realize when you get up into the latest gen in CPU's or gpu's you're paying twice or three times as much for like 30% better performance. and most people wouldn't notice the differences anyway in the majority of applications. especially at 1080p like you were saying.
am4 ryzen 5600 32bg memory B450 3060 12gb plays every thing i have tried at 1080 and mostly over 100 fps.. some games over 200 fps.. well under 800 with ssd.. shop around and go used if possible it will even be less
I need some sort of desktop computer for music production. It would be awesome if I could also link it to my Quest and game on it in VR. … However, music production is the main goal. If I was going to build my first Windows PC, rather than build the system around the Mac mini, should I wait until ARM chips and motherboards are available? Is that where PC building is headed?
#buildfix I use this mostly for 2k gaming but also HTC Vive Pro 2 VR with wireless adapter (yes it works with this current AM4 build). I'm looking to maybe upgrade CPU to 5800x3d. Would I need to update bios on mobo? Also guessing I need a better cooler if I do. I originally tried Noctua NH-U12A, but had issues screwing into bracket, the screw would not thread. it also had some bent fins. Returned it and chose to take the money after testing the Wraith cooler. -MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS Motherboard -AMD Ryzen 7 2700 (with stock wraith cooler) -MSI 2070 super -G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 3600 *with XMP now off (worried that's what killed my first set of two) -Rosewill PHOTON Series 850W Full Modular /80 PLUS Gold Photon-850 1tb intel gen 3 NVMe for OS and a few games 2tb Samsung 970 EVO NVMe later upgraded for additional storage
@@AtomicAJ74 Finally recently replaced my GTX 1080. That GPU just did not want to go. The Pascal gen of GPUs were absolute unicorns. There will never be a generational leap like we saw with Pascal. I wanted to move up in resolution or else Id still be using the 1080. Im gonna pass the old PC down to my friends children, its still very capable of running Fortnite and Roblox very well.
@@stephenhood2948 I listed my GTX 1070 since I have no need for it, but it’s a shame to give it up. And the price I see these cards going for in the used market seems way lower than their value. I listed mine at $120 and so far I have no bites.
Easy. Erying cpu/mobo/ram combo. Used 6700xt. 1tb nvme. 500w psu. Cheap matx case. 3-120mm fans. Done. Mid range under 500usd. Or used dell precision with i7 9700 and a used gpu you'd want. Can cheap out on gpu with an aliexpress 6600m for 200usd. Decent 1080p card.
Thank you for these videos, I have always looked to your build guides and I'm happy to see that you cover mid range builds. I can never justify spending money on bleeding edge or top of the line, but I still want decent performance. It seems like most channels only cover both extremes ether budget or top of the line unless they are reviewing a specific product.
I recently got a brand new EVGA 2080super XC ULTRA for $260, which was a great deal. Picked it up from a friend who never bothered to use it and decided to sell, though sucks the Warranty is long gone for it.
Back at the end of November I went with a 7700X and a 7800 XT, and I've been super happy with it. MicroCenter had a really solid deal on the 7700X with a motherboard and RAM bundled for 400, otherwise I was planning on the 7600 or 7700 myself. I am surprised you're suggesting sticking with the Wraith Stealth on the 7600 though. When I built my 2600X build I stuck with the stock cooler at the time given what reviews said, and I never felt like it was adequate -- I wound up locking my cores to stock speed to keep things at what I felt was a reasonable temp and noise range. Kinda disappointed me.
Would love some advice upgrade build. Kind of limited on funds, but am using a decent television as a dual purpose monitor. It is a LG > 75" Class QNED80 URA series 4K UHD TV - 75QNED80URA. The other components that I are currently have are listed in my build, but I am still looking for reasonable upgrades and cost. Like one of the things I would like to do is a bigger, SSD, and this motherboard does support duel NMVE drives, but the chip is one generation too early for it to be an able both in the NMVE portS ported. Another thing is would like to improve is ARGB options if nothing more than for looks, because the generic fans that are unknown. Have considered different options, but one to use a front mounted 280 mm aio cooler. Also, want to use three other 120 mm case fans along with that cooler that match. Some of the memory parts that are in the list do not actually coincide to the official parts because they are not on PC part picker for some reason. But put the closest equivalent to them in there. This computer is still under a payment plan until I can pay it off in a lot longer time, but would like to get it to where it is actually able to get made by for the next 16 months. Did have far superior keyboard and mouse in the past, but it just totally busted for some reason, and stopped working. So pulled out my old back up logitech K3 50 and M570 to get me by. And it amazing. It still works after so many years. Some keys only work part of the time. But again this is to hold me over until I can find an ARG B, keyboard and mouse combo that will work in my case. As for RGB software, I am currently using signal RGB. Which gives a lot more open ability for products is the reason I use it. What I do is fairly simple along the lines of gaming, but I do enjoy decent sound as you can tell from my decent 2.1 speaker set up for the computer. As well as a high-end television to do as a double duty as a monitor. Ask her games are not very demanding for the most part, mostly being things like American truck, simulator, and Final Fantasy consul port to the PC. In fact, probably the most demanding game I have on the computer at the moment would probably be the either American truck simulator or FinalFantasy7 remake intermission. But do you like to play these games at 4K HDR 10+. Currently using a display port 1.4 out to HDMI 2.1 cable for the input on the TV. Really need to get a quality, keyboard and mouse, but not sure what to get as of yet. Here is the PC part picker list for the components that I have currently. pcpartpicker.com/list/XyP9vj
just put together a new £1800 SFF system in the A4 H20 with a 4070ti, the only used part i bought was a i5 12600k, i'm hoping the Arrow Lake CPU's coming at the end of the year will be worth it over the 14600k nonsense. Price wise its so close to my last ATX build in 2017 with the i5 8600k and GTX 1080 that I was actually shocked, I thought I would be spending a lot more.
Entire Mid-Range PC: $1000-1500 RTX 4090: $1800 I love my 4090, but when I bought my computer last month, even though I specifically saved up for over a year just to be able to buy a really nice gaming PC that I would not have to upgrade for a good while (HP Omen 45L 13900K/4090 config,) I still cried just a little at the amount of money I spent. 🤣 😂😭😭 (But my God is this machine a BEAST tho! And this is literally the first gaming desktop I've ever owned; it was only consoles and a Steam Deck before this.)
Just built a system with the msi b650-p wifi mobo and all I can say is it was agony, make sure that you update the bios while having your ram disconnected, and then populate slots A2 and B2 because it'll refuse to boot otherwise.
build my first pc. thinking about 12600KF + 4060Ti on AsRock Z690 Phantom 4, 32gb 3200. ~1K. just for 1080 games its good for 5 years?(idk if i can make it so far)
I just built a 12600k/4070/Z790/32GB DDR5 system that kills it at 1440p. 1080p would be nothing for the setup you described. Get a cheap 1440p monitor to go with it and enjoy the crispness and buttery smoothness.
Was targeting under $1500 for my new build. Going AM5. No storage because I'm using the 2 NVMe Gen 4 drives in my current rig. Ryzen 7 7800X3D Gigabyte B650 Gaming X AX V2 G.Skill Flare X5 Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR5-6000 GIGABYTE Radeon RX 7800 XT be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850W ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 240 MONTECH King 95 PRO Montech AX120 120 mm Fan X 2 The above was just about $1300. How'd I do?
@@TigerGreene I just bought a 32" LG Ultragear 165hz 1440p monitor for $200 brand new. Sure you could spend thousands on a 4k OLED, but there is now some value to be had in gaming monitors. Its by no means the nicest monitor available, but looks nice and saves money, two things I have no problem with.
@@stephenhood2948It's probably low quality for that price. And you must have gotten it on huge discount. Or the prices have plummeted. There were almost no 1440p high refresh monitors at that price in 2019 when I got mine. Mine was $500 then.
Built a Mini Itx system for my GF at the begining of the year. Niether of us play crazy modern ganes and we both use 1080p so i got away pretty cheap at $400. A big saving was using my old 1080ti, but the old card still creaks along for her.
I dunno, only 5 year warranty on a PSU seems a bit on the low side? It doesn't really instill confidence in their own product if they are afraid to give you 7 or even 10 years warranty like some other brands do.
the best price to performance for mid to high end has to be 7500f cpu and 7900gre (OC) gpu, only about 700usd for both for basically 4070 ti super with ryzen 7600 performance
i have a win 11 i9 9900k and the black liped 3080 ftw3 card lately been having serious input lag on multiplay games with a 40 ping.ive tryed new mice new keyboard no change.these kids with basic laptops running circles around me when i click fire on mouse it lags like suppression fire and im dead
I have a unique build list because it is all parts that I acquired for very cheap prices (some were damaged, returned items, auctions, ect). I was able to scrap together a mid range AM4 platform and now I'm working on an AM5 build. I have been trying to find the best gpu to pair with this system as that is one thing I cant get very often with my methods. Any advice on this matter would be appreciated! The AM4 build is as follows: Component: I paid: Original Price (+7% tax): Asus TUF B550m $62.75 $211.53 AMD Ryzen 5 5600x $109.23 $168.48 T-force TUF 32GB DDR4 RAM $46.76 $80.25 Enermax Liquimax 3 AIO $23.38 $85.64 NO GPU YET Be quiet! Pure Bass 500 DX case $22.90 $106.90 Samsung 870 EVO 500gb SSD $28.30 $42.80 Thermaltake 600w PSU $64.20 $64.20 Total: $357.52 $759.75 Total Discount: 53% Off.
@@mr.rainbowlovescoffee insulated concrete forms. I've got a friend who heats his ICF house through Idaho winters with just the heat from a greenhouse on the south side of the building. Also you can't hear anything outside through the walls which makes them feel different when you go inside of them.
Just got the 7600 @ $199. I literally kept refreshing my Amazon window over a 20 minute period and the lowest price bounced between $240 and $199. It's so odd. At one point the 7600X was cheaper than the non X.
Looking to build a mini itx for the spouse. I already have a 3070 but will need everything else. Nothing high end as she will only turn this thing on once in a while. What am i getting?
My PC is in this picture and I like it. Eerily enough even down to the GF3 PSU (although I went with the 850w). I saved a bit keeping old SSDs and the case from my last rig.
Hey paul, idk if you ever put out a video like this but I am a truck driver (semi truck-trailer) and in our trucks we are limited with the wattage we can use. Do you have any video or would be interested in making one for a power efficient gaming pc? Like most power for like 500 watts or something
A brand new build might be labeled mid-range, but compared to what most people in the world are using right now, it is probably a high-end build. Just take a look at the steam stats to see what GPU people are using and that notion is backed up. So don't feel bad about your new build!
Sucks how pre-COVID you could build a high end/enthusiast system for $1,500. Now you can only get mid-range. It's almost like they want to sell less or something. Also, buying "older" parts might save you some cash in the immediate future, but it also means your system won't be as relevant for as long as it could have been moving forward. Unless you regularly build new systems every few years, build for one that should last you a minimum of four years, up to seven or even eight, not counting a GPU switch at some point.
Hi Paul, I have to say what a wonderful inspiration you have been. I have followed your build guides and recommendations which have taught me so much. I love your speech delivery and easy style that you have and as a "teacher" there are none better on TH-cam. I am now confident of PC building myself. Thank you so much from a big fan in the UK. p.s. STOP STEALING OUR BEER MUGS!!!!...LOL JK.
The Phanteks G300A is almost identical to the P400A (including 3 front fans), and it does have the 3.2 Gen 2 Type C connector on top of the case, for about $10 more.
This is my current set up, a mix of recent upgrades and older kit as this started as a Ryzen 5 3600 and GTX1070 build. Still not particularly happy with the graphics card but I missed the boat on the 3060Ti and the 5700XT I had in between the 2 was an unmitigated disaster that was so unstable and jet engine loud it forced me to do a sidegrade back to Nvidia. CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X - £180.55 Mobo: ASRock B550M-ITX/AC - £129.95 Ram: 32GB (2x16) Teamgroup T-Force Vulcan Z DDR-3200 CL16 - ~£100 when purchased Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120SE - £33.90 GPU: Gigabyte CeForce RTX 4060 8GB Eagle OC - £284.00 Boot Drive: Crucial P2 1TB M.2 PCIe Gen 3 - £59.99 Steam Drive: Crucial MX500 2TB SATA SSD 2.5" - £155.59 Case: Cooler Master NR200 - £69.63 PSU: Corsair SF600 600W SFX PSU - £97.97 Fans: 3xThermalright TL-C12C in addition to the fans that came with the case and cooler - £13.39 Total cost: £1124.97
What's the best way to update an old pc? I built mine in 2015, and it's running pretty slowly. Part of that is due to damage from dust and me having waited too long to clean it. What compenents would I be able to keep and what should I prioritize upgrading?
MicroCenter has this CPU/MOBO/RAM bundle for 369.99 Ryzen 7 7700X instead of the Ryzen 7600. Seems like such a good deal, will be picking it up tomorrow.
This has to be a troll right? 4070 Super a "Mid Range"? Also, while the AMD isn't supreme, is it truly and surely a mid range part? 32GB of RAM mid-range? This whole setup reeks of absurdity. Mid Range is 1080p, 16GB of RAM, 6-Core CPU, and an 8GB VRAM GPU. Low end is last gen, 8GB RAM, 4GB VRAM GPU, Quad Core. A Core i3-14100, with a GTX 970.
@@drunkhusband6257 That 70 on the end says High End. 70= High End, 80 High End, 90=Ultra End. 50=Mid Range, 60= Mid Range. Mid Range is a mix of new cards, and older cards from previous generations. The 2070 Super defines the Mid Range.
Feels good to have recommended basically this exact build to three friends in the past week. One very fun money-saving note though for people in the US, Microcenter has some FANTASTIC CPU + mobo + RAM combos right now. Two of the three friends were able to get a 7800X3D combo for only $450, which is of course LESS than a 7600 combo without the deal. There are cheaper Ryzen 7000 combos available too.
Fab video guys! If there's any insight on parts lists I would value an opinion where we stand right now. I've lived with my system now for just over six years. It started out with the following core components.. Ryzen 1600, 16Gb RAM, Asus B350F mb, EVGA GTX1070SC, EVGA 650GQ psu. Over the intervening time it's had an upgrade from stock cooler to a Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black edition, memory went up to 32Gb and the CPU swapped out to a 5700X. My quandary now is what to do with the GPU. I've looked across the board and seem to feel that a 3070ish is about the right price/system capacity balance point but would appreciate a second opinion.
Nice episode and so so so timely. I just got Enshrouded off Steam and my system crashes all the time when I try playing. I decided this is a good time to get a new system. The bad news 😢, I need to wait a few months to save up the cash. Hopefully, the Radion RX 7800 XT and the Ryzen 5 7600X I have my eye on will go down in price by June.😊
My friends: "What kind of computer do you recommend I build?"
Me: "A functional one."
I would never spend more than 300$ on a gpu. You just throw your money away
If a game can't be played on a 300$ gpu, then it's not worth playing
Imo, you should try and build a PC for the same price as a console, otherwise you're just blowing money
I'm rocking a 1060 6gb and r5 2600 with 16gb ram. Max power system draw... 250watt!!
You can build this for under 300$
@@Sofi-gz9uo LOL Consoles have been sold at a loss since the NES. Right now you can pay $600 for a console and get more than $800 worth of hardware.
Do you mean to build a PC based on the price you'd pay or the actual price it costs the manufacturer to build it? The latter would be around a grand at launch, and then a few million units later it's about equal to the MSRP. For $1000 USD you can build a very capable PC, $600 is going to be tough to get more than medium settings at 120 FPS in new titles.
@@Sofi-gz9uo I mean yeah you can play all games on an RTX 4060 for $300, as long as you're willing to stick to 1080p and dump settings in some games.
@@Sofi-gz9uo I'm glad you have chosen a GPU upgrade path.....
I bet you hope AFMF will save your $300 GPU. Which will cost $350 with tax.
@@victor-si1lkmore fps 🤤🤤🤤🤤 (I’m on a 1060 3gb for reference)
Time to get my hopes crushed
Hey everyone! Look at this elitist! He has hope!
Firsr time bro? 😂
There is no hope , get bent !
And just because it is V-day don't expect flowers either.
Nah bro, just save up and buy your parts one at a time, only if you want to but that is what I am doing at the moment.
@@BoutaFitits ok tactic but just remember to not be too greedy or you will buy parts for year 😂 and pricec are dropped alrd when you build it
i built my first pc with your help back in 2016, just upgraded last year to a whole new build. You are great.
Upgrade it till it's a new build, LOL
You never needed his help, you just had to watch the Verge's How to Build a PC video. If you can screw with confidence, you can screw just about anything! (humor)
@@deuswulf6193 😂😂
Same. I built exactly the 1600x build from 2016 and just upgraded last week.
Built my PC in 2016 too with help from Paul and Jayztwocents and ya I'm definitely due for an upgrade
I bought my 7800xt this year for 500 clams which was actually cheaper than my old 5700xt. Still its crazy these prices for "mid" options
RTX 4070 is mid, RTX 4090 is higher levels.
F that. The range is 1-9, 1-3 is low end, 4-6 is mid range, and 7-9 is high end.
3050 is mid, 4070 Super is high end. That is what the 50 and 70 stand for.
Clams, eh? I'll have to find a monetary vendor to see the what the exchange rate from smackaronies to clams is. I have 75 smakaronies, and an odd button, but I don't think that would be enough...
@@lucasrem "higher levels" you mean it's the very damn top.
@@marvinmallette6795That's not even close to how it works. Nvidia almost never goes below 5, so 5 is entry level for their product stack.
The 40 series doesn't even have a 5, so that makes 6 "budget", 7 "mainstream", 8 "enthusiast", and 9 rich parents.
old days $100 good feature mobo, $150-200 CPU, $300-350 GPU, RAM is about the same, as well as storage.
Yeah their greed has got out of hand
You say that like you cant spend that exact amount for a 1080 or even 1440p build right now, lmao.
@@timhorton8085 no you can't
@notaras1985 650 bucks will get you a 6650, a 1TB of storage, 16GB of ram, and what ever low to midtier cpu you want.
Ever since Covid and the weird PC pricing I need videos like this to figure out what the baseline for pricing is nowadays
In 2018 a midrange card would cost you maybe $250-$300 and budget cards like the RX 480 4GB were at $110. Now midrange which should be the 4060-4070 cards are priced way too high for what they are. Needless to say I decided on a 4090 as the best value for what I do so that's what I got. Granted $2K is a hell of a lot to spend on a graphics card just to game and do some light content creation but the plus side is you don't have to waste weeks of time every year messing with game settings trying to squeeze out some more performance.
@@ScoutReaper-zn1rz In 2018 mid range would have been a 2070, which was $500. A 4070 is $520
Not just limited to PCs, pricing on basically everything except TVs has been out of control since Covid
@@drunkhusband6257 Man my time frame was off by a few years. Where did all the time go :( It felt like just yesterday when I paid $700 for a used 1080ti at the height of the mining craze.
You can always buy last gen used, and you can save a lot. Both my current and previous GPUs were used, and they've been fine. Hell, I even resold the GPU for like 10% of what I paid (RIP). Sold off my old CPU too for like 25% of the price, and I was glad to give it a new home.
Prices literally just went up this week for everything.
Explain? I only know of SSD prices that are supposed to go up. Some GPU prices have dropped.
@patsk8872 It might just be a U.S thing, but prices everywhere are going up, dude. Certain GPUs experienced massive inflation months ago.
@@Brent_P Everyone probably found out I was almost ready to build
@@Brent_P. Maybe more local to you… can you provide your region?
@@Brent_P It's a US thing.
Here in Europe now is a great time to build. Intel Gen 14's are cheaper than Gen 13, and GPU's are at or below MSRP.
Hate to say this, but you guys are doing it to yourselves. You buy despite the retailers raising the prices.
Love to see you still teaching people how to build computers. I remember your 1st gen i7 build for Newegg TV way back in the day, soon followed by the double build video with the 2nd gen i7 and i5 PCs. I think a retro retake of those videos would be really fun.
What a shame that the bottom end of the budget is above the cost of a console. When I got into PC mid range was $500 and it absolutely crushed console performance.
I mean Sony and Microsoft both lose money on their consoles. They make it back with the yearly subscription you need to play online and the fact that console games are usually 20-40% more expensive than pc. My brother and me did the math over 3 years and found a midranges custom pc setup (includes monitor, keyboard, mouse and headphones) breaks even with a ps5 or the newest Xbox. People forget to factor in the cost of their tv, their entertainment center, couch/chair, and most people buy decent gaming headset and accessories like a spare controller and the dual controller charger.
Don’t get me wrong I am never for “pc master race” and have a gaming pc, a switch, and a ps5 and so does my wife and we love gaming across the board BUT we are starting to get annoyed at paying about 140 usd a year for us to both play our ps5s together.
SteamDeck exists
Depends on how you define “mid range”. It was never really $500, that was buget gaming. $700-1000 was budget.
Yeah $500 isn't mid range, even back 7 to 8 years ago, a mid range GPU such as the 2070 super cost me $450, so my overall system was probably in the $700-$800 range for a mid range build.....
PC gaming is so cooked lmao
I was just looking through your videos this morning to help me choose some parts for a new PC build. This was absolute perfect timing.
Paul. I have been a sub since 2016. I have commented on your videos several times. I wanted you to know that your PC builds have been informative and entertaining. I have learned a lot from your videos. Good luck and keep up the good work.
low end hardware is the only option for not rich people
did not used to be that way, mid range hardware used to be a good value
Poor only skip the RTX 4090, RTX 4070 is good enough.
nah, either get a console or a high end pc, no point going low end when you can get a console at the same price. ps4 pro is really cheap these days
@@lucasremMost people aren't buying at $600. They're buying way lower.
PC gaming isn't worth it on the low to mid range, it's only worth it on the high end.
I bought a new pc specifically because spending almost $1000 on a console paid for most of the computer and I can upgrade it down the road for less than replacing a console.
PLUS now you have to install content on consoles, Online requirements, lack of game ownership BS, mod limitations...
Plus the PC is more utilitarian for work an content.
Funny how all these $999 4080 supers are listed online for like $1300-$1600 now. I truly hate the GPU market.
And then add another 20% to those prices, for all of us europeans...
This is the Gaming PC that i am planning to build for a friend:
CPU: Ryzen 7 7700 (i know it's a bit overkill, but with this he can also upgrade his GPU in the future)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 Digital (cheaper than zero dark in my country)
Motherboard: MSI B650 Gaming Plus WiFi
RAM: Teamgroup T-Force Vulcan 32 GB DDR5-6000 CL38
SSD: Kingston NV2 1 TB
SSD: Random 2 TB HDD
SSD: Random 512GB NVMe
GPU: Gigabyte 7800 XT Gaming OC
Case: Montech AIR 903 BASE black
Power Supply: be quiet! pure power 11 700W
Cable Extensions: Cablemod classic modmesh 8+8 black
Nice one. If your friend plays several new and old games, now he can decide where to install it. Old ones usually will be fine on the HDD! With that he can save space on the SSD and Nvme drives. And also, you never want to fill up an SSD or Nvme more than around 66%! It might cause performance issues filling up more than that. But better check a knowledge base for why is that. Needless to say, having a HDD in a today's build is not shameful at all. Trustworthy drives for casual data storage. Good luck for your friend with that build. His upgrade path would be first the SSD and Nvme drives to upgrade to 2 TB ones on both! The HDD will be just fine. Have fun boys.
Nice. What about the rest?
Does he/she already have the monitor, speakers, keyboard, mouse, mousepad, headset, gamepad, and webcam? Those will easily double the budget.
Solid Build I Just Built Mine & Had Similar Components(tomahawk, 7700x, 4070) It Came Out To 15 After Tax. You’re A Good Friend !
I typed my comment before watching the video, this is the build that I have literally just completed in the last couple of days (just need a keyboard and a monitor to get me gaming on it)
Ryzen 5 7600 - £189.98
ASRock B650m Pro RS (non WiFi) - £134.99
Corsair Vengeance 32Gb DDR5 6000Mts at CL30 - £114.98
Stock cooler for now
GPU: Sapphire Pulse 7800XT - £479.99
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 512Gb (for now) - £43.99
Case: Chillblast (Gamemax) Fnatic Commando - £19.99
Power Supply: Corsair CX750 non modular 80Plus Bronze - £69.98
Fans: 6 EZDIY ARGB fans from Amazon (the case had a single fan) - £46.99
banger build if you arent planning on overclocking or live somewhere with high ambient temps don't bother getting an aftermarket cooler
Not bad , would of gone for a 1tb SSD from the start though.
get a all in one for that cpu, stock coolers are not good for gaming, heat kills pc components over time.
@@aeroflopper Not needed at all. Gaming will almost never put a full load on your cpu and they're designed to handle that for many many years. This CPU won't get that hot given its low power requirement.
@musicforlifemc1006 while gaming my cpu is only around 5% utilised but still gets up to 60'C a stock cooler on my cpu will thermol throttle and thats not good at all.
The only change I would make to the recommended gaming build, is add $20.00 to the power supply, for the 850W 80+ Gold with a 10 year warranty.
Thx for the update Paul. Did you guys ever find out why Joe's SFF travel editing pc had issues on your trip? That might make for an interesting video, the troubleshooting, and fixing.
That video is already mostly finished, it should be up next week! 🙏
No Paul, it should be up today. (jk)
I think that's pretty reasonable for all new parts. I watched a video on another channel that tried to do a $550 build and ended up with something that wasn't too bad until the pulled out a 6500 XT. Worse yet, they were putting it in an A530 with a Gen3 slot. Had they spent $50 more, they could have had an RX 6600.
6600M from AliExpress is below 180$ same performance with less power consumption and it's pretty legit
@@b0n3ZzZGR I'm not seeing a low profile option, and just like the 3050 6GB, it makes not sense to buy a full height model at that price when you can buy a full fat RX 6600 for $10 more.
having just completed a build: know your build from case to components, make sure as much as you can that they jive. Stay away from anything largely in terms of cpu air cooling unless it's noctua. If you don't have a specialized pc warehouse nearby you're likely going to have to order online for storage devices and memory. Oh, and even in a mid-pc look for cases with ample room for the power supply unit for cable traffic. It' will get congested, especially if you are gonna run a mid to mid-high gpu.
If you're within driving distance (I consider that about an hour) of a MicroCenter, they have a bundle deal with the 7800x3d, 32gb 6000mhz 32cl Gskill ram, and a well equipped Gigabyte mobo for $470. It's an incredible deal and I just recently purchased it.
You’re an angel
Building my first PC, here's my plan for 1440p gaming:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600
Cooler: Deepcool AK500 ZERO DARK
Motherboard: MSI MAG B650M MORTAR WIFI Micro ATX
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL32
Storage: Kingston NV2 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0
GPU: Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB
(Also considering the 7800 XT but I feel nostalgic for Nvidia, the GPU of my childhood lol)
Case: Asus Prime AP201
Power: Corsair RM850x
i feel like 7800xt is way worth it 16gb vram and more fps
Add 20-40% tax if you're outside us. US is privileged when buying pc part.
Sadly true.
That's disgusting. Do you get free laundry service for life for that tax?
But “free healthcare” 😂😂😂
US is privileged when buying almost everything (consumer products)
Go with CL30 DDR5 6000 if you’re gonna go AM5 route. Way better timing than the CL36.
Remember mid range could be around 7-800, now it's almost double for modern games
When was this lol. Even a 2070 in 2018 was $500 alone
You could buy a good 1080p setup for around 7-800
Before the 2070... Lol I will admit prices have been steadily rising and people are never gonna be happy as long as they remember the times when the prices stayed the same but the performance went up@@drunkhusband6257
I remember when decent midrange pc used to be $500-$700 😢 crazy that todays midrange price range used to be the price you would pay for a high end setup just years ago
i remember times that courrent pricves looks like free. Fuck me buying 1gb drive for like 200 euro or monitors STARTING from 400. Shits cheap even now so dont moan.
How many years ago?
Budget being 600-1000 is wild. PC is so cooked price wise. You used to be able to build an ok system for 500 5 years ago.
seems like we hit a wall where these GPU companies will not let us run 4K 60 fps on max for less than $1500
PC is cheap, RTX 4070 can do that, only the monitor is fancy !
Jensen and Su have decided 4k 60 on max should not be experienced by dirty peasants.
Easy solution........don't bother with 4k and go to a lower resolution....
You can easily. The key is with their software solutions like dlss 3 and FSR frame gen. If you want all settings maxed, with path tracing, then it gets a bit more complicated.
Don't use Path Tracing and I can hit 80fps in Cyberpunk 2077 on a 3800X and 4070 Super this is 4K and yes at 1440 I can hit over 100FPS
Finally a build that doesn’t match a 4070 with a 7700X for some unknown reason that is not explained.
7s
i remember when "budget builds" were less than $500 including cd key all and decent peripherals new.
HP has a very good gaming PC for 500 ! Key too !
Micro center has bundles for CPU/MB/RAM. Yesterday I got a AMD 7800X3D, B650, and 32GB G skill DDR5 6000 (the ram in your video actually) bundle for $470. Matched it with a ASUS TUF 7800Xt with OC, 2TB WD Black NVME gen 4. G skill 750w 80+ gold. And a deep cool LS720 liquid cooler. Two additional 140mm fans. Bought a used case off a friend for $50. My full build cost $1450 with tax.
4090 alone is considered high end PC
This is the video editing PC that i am planning to build for myself:
CPU: Ryzen 5 7500F
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK400 DIGITAL WH
Motherboard: Asrock A620M-HDV/M.2 (or cheapest matx AM5)
RAM: Teamgroup T-Force Vulcan 32 GB DDR5-6000 CL38
SSD: Kingston NV2 1 TB
GPU: Asrock Challenger Arc A580 OC
Case: Deepcool CH370 WH
PSU: be quiet! System Power 10 450W
Fans: 2x Arctic P12 PWM PST
Cable Extensions: Cablemod classic modmesh 8+8 white
epic, I have a Kingston nv2 new, haven't used it yet because I don't have a pc yet but nice.
Thanks Paul! I needed the update. Things seem to be moving fast this year and I don't get many breaks. Looking decent so far! 🎉 Let's keep it going. 🍺 Cheers.
That'll be $5,000 outside of the US, Canada especially. It's crazy that manufacturers have just abandoned the 80% of buyers to chase benchmark charts, especially those outside of the US. It's a sad state of affairs.
There is no good "bang for you buck"
There is only, The more you buy, the more you save.
Thanks for the leather!
Maybe he meant.. the more you buy, the more you have to save up to buy it...
This is the ITX Gaming PC that i am planning to build for a friend:
CPU: Ryzen 7 7700 (i know it's a bit overkill, but with this he can also upgrade his GPU in the future)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool LT520
Motherboard: Asrock A620I Lightning WiFi (or cheapest ITX AM5 motherboard)
RAM: Teamgroup T-Force Vulcan 32 GB DDR5-6000 CL38
SSD: Kingston NV2 2 TB (cheapest PCIe 4.0 2TB NVME)
GPU: Asrock Challenger RX 7800 XT OC (cheapest 7800 xt)
Case: Cooler Master NR200P (Black)
Power Supply: FSP Dagger Pro 650W
How much are you charging him to build it?
This is literally the BEST video on the subject right now. Right to the point , interesting , and you talk fast so I really like that. Also you’re an expert on the subject. Respect from Switzerland bro 😊
Every PC I had to buy/build is because of the CPU! I am 57 years old started with 486k then P-III, 3200+ Sempron. My advice is: GET THE BEST CPU YOU CAN AFFORD, and build around that. The more cores, threads, L3 cache with the highest cycle rate (GHz) the better, unless you like buying a new processor every other or few years. My first build was an FX-8350 that ran over 10 years, still working, just now ran into high end games It can't run (got me pass not having to buy AM4). Now I got a 7950X that should carry for another 10 years.
DON'T USE USED PARTS EITHER UNLESS YOU OWN THEM warranties have saved my butt more than once
best budget GPU is XFX Speedster RX 6650XT Core 8GB GDDR6 2.64GHz for $260 (Best Buy)
a 750 watt is just fine for one GPU if you plan to use two GPU's you will need 1000 watt
Your advice is awful
@@godmode4708 you don't have to follow my advice, go ahead and buy core components or a new PC every 2 years. you also sound like the kind of guy that would put a 4090 RTX on a quad core.
BTW, Micro Center has lowered its 5800X3D/B550M/DDR4 3200 RAM bundle from $349 to $299 with even a $269 price if signing up for their credit card so, that and either an RX 6800 or 7800 XT GPU would give you a Mid to High range performance rig but, at more of a low range price :)
The most overlooked part of the PC builders list, the Monitor...
How so? It is all about needs. It might be overlooked if your only plan is for gaming. I have to balance a bunch of less than ideal things. Gaming, color accuracy, 4k resolution (32") and mid tier gpu. It isn't ideal in many respects, but the compromises I was ok with.
@@alpsalish The best GPU on the market is not going to magically give you 1440 x 2160 144hz or 3840 x 2160 120hz if it only supports 1080p 60hz, the quality of GPU you buy should match what your willing to spend on your display, I run a 7800X3D with a 7900XT on a 55" LG C1 OLED, at 3840 x 2160 120hz HDMI 2.1 Freesync Premium with SAM enabled, its magnificent! I started my build with my display and worked up to its full capabilities with my GPU as my budget got healthier.
@@vaeloreonari7516 Disagree to some extent, but this seems more gaming specific.
Some just use their TV's
Monitor prices have come down tremendously in the past few years. Sure you can spend a few thousand for a 4k OLED, but you can also find decent enough 1440p/4k monitors for a couple hundred dollars. I just bought a 32" LG Ultragear 165hz 1440p monitor for $200. The days of having to spend big bucks for higher resolution, high refresh rate monitors are long past. There is a lot of value to be had in mid range monitors. And I just bought a 55" 4k TV for $200. Neither are the nicest panels by any stretch but they still look very nice and left a lot of money left over for other things.
When I first built my midrange gaming PC in 2016, I spent $1.5k CAD.
i5-6500, GTX 1060, 16GB RAM
Times sure are tough.
That feel when that GPU is still relevant now basically, and worse still it's AMD that's keeping it more relevant because the one and only damn reason I'd accept upscaling is because if I wanted to play newer games on my pos laptop but only FSR works, if I had a RTX GPU I'd have enough power that I didn't need the upscaling to begin with. DLSS is so fing stupid I swear to God. And all the GPUs are getting so much worse these days but at the same time other than Hairworks or RT or whatever the games aren't necessarily so super better looking now except for textures, the texturework is indeed beautiful now in a way mid 2010s games are not (they did look pretty rough tbh mid 2010s was like late 2000s textures even on Deus Ex HR) but other than needing more VRAM it just seems to me that you'd only need a brand new GPU for going to 4k or high refresh 1440p. I can still get away with low tier GPUs at 1080p. Even Far Cry 5 is playable on 750ti tier hardware.
@@drek9k2 RTX2050 Laptops exist. Prob worse than a desktop 1060 6gb even counting upscaling.
@@buckstrucks4476 Oh no it'd literally be worse, I know this because the alleged RTX 3050 in laptop is around a GTX 980ti at best, which the GTX 980 roughly equals the RX 580 or 1060, which roughly equals the 1650 Super or 5500XT. It's at least in that range, I think the 5600XT was loosely like a 1660ti or 2060, the 5700XT was at least a 2070 if not on the same level as a 2070S or 1080ti. So for a 2050 mobile to be even at 1060 performance would be impressive, I highly doubt it's anywhere like that.
Man. Imagine basically spending $1200 in 2022 to basically just a GTX 980ti. You can buy that GPU for like $100 right now.
That's not mid-range. That's a low-range piece of garbage PC. It makes me sad and angry that this is the reality of PC building today. Everything is driven by corporate greed and the people are stupid enough to pay those prices. Not realizing that the power is with the consumer. Everything could change for the better if people would just boycott all these trash companies' products.
Built my latest PC with the help of your videos back in 2022. Loving the content
Putting together a new home server:
* Intel i5 12600k (will under volt, possibly under clock)
* ASUS Pro W680 ACE
* 32 GB NEMIX DDR5 4800MHz ECC (2x16GB UDIMMS)
* Noctua NH-U12A
* Noctua NF-A14
* Crucial P3 Plus 1TB x2 (RAID 1, for the OS)
* Seasonic PRIME PX-750
* Fractal Design Define 7
* LG Bluray burner (WH16NS60)
* WD Red Pro 4 TB x8 (RAID 10, for the ZFS pool)
At some point I may add a discrete graphics card (possibly Intel Arc) to play with acceleration.
Then why don't you just buy a 12600 non k model. Undervolting is never good despite what people say, it creates both stability issues and damages the cpu long term.
If you're doing a server, why not use a motherboard with embedded Epyc processor? Much more suited and cheaper.
Also instead of running eight 4tb WD Red drives, run four Seagate Exos 7E10's. More capacity, better drives and cheaper.
@@drunkhusband6257
Messing with volts and clock speed on a server is dumb. Just leave well enough alone, and as you said, use a non-K. Under volting and under clocking can also cause a bunch of stability issues.
@@drunkhusband6257 I chose the K model because you can't change clocks/voltages on a non-K model for starters...
To be clear, undervolting does _not_ in any way shape or form damage the CPU - think about how that works. Overvolting is another story.
Yes you can run into stability issues, that is why you test your configuration before you deploy.
@@AB-80X I looked at embedded Epyc but availability was an issue in my area.
Regarding the disks, I'm not buying new, I am repurposing some old disks I already own. I have found 4 spindles to be a challenge for some of the I/O I want to do - I don't want to shell out for something crazy like PCIe flash.
I will say the recommendation about the rx 6800 xt is decent. Picked one up on sale last year for 439 and it’s about the equal of the 7800xt. No regrets for the money.
So you shy away from b650m boards because the b650's are higher quality?
My computer is a Covid-era build that I've spent the last 4 years upgrading incrementally as I've seen fit/sales fit the build. I'm currently rocking this:
-Ryzen 5 7600x
-MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk WIFI
-32GB Team Group T-Force Delta DDR5 6000 CL30
-ASUS TUF Gaming 3070 Ti
-WD Black SN770 1TB
-Crucial P5 Plus 2TB
-EVGA 360 CLC AIO
-Super Flower Leadex III Gold 850w PSU
-Phanteks Eclipse P500A
While I'm relatively pleased with how it operates, I've been looking at my GPU with some longing. For the amount of money I spent on it ($855 CAD), its largest problem is that 8GB VRAM buffer and Nvidia's annoying attitude for gaming GPUs. Would you recommend I look at getting something current gen (7800xt/7900xt/4070 TI Super), or just wait for them to announce the next lineup of cards? My budget for that would like to be below $500 USD, but I'm relatively flexible if the deal is good.
sounds like the process for mine, but you upgraded to AM5.
How did you manage to only spend $800? any used parts?
You can also look to spread out the cost by acquiring parts over time, especially parts that can be tested independently if needed. I am doing this for mini itx build for my son to take to college with him this fall.
Team group sells 6000mts cl30 ram for $110...
Also thermaltake smart power supplies are pretty crappy...
Well 1000bucks gave a loads of bang now it’s like 1800 at least! For 1440p at least!
Alpha , too poor for 4k gaming monitor ????
@@lucasrem 4k is stupid, ultrawide or nothing.
@@lucasrem4K is an absolutely ridiculous resolution, there's no point unless you're playing on a TV.
@@lucasremnope I’m not since I live in Switzerland and have a very high income compared to the rest of Europe and world! 5 digits a month yet there are many who refuse to pay for tech that used to be by faaaar cheaper for mid range rig! by the way I have a 78003xd 4070ti Super 48gb 8000mhz ram and 3x4tb 990pro
All of that on a Rog x670e gene cost me around 3000 bucks!😅
And I did spend another 2k for desk chair soundsytem so on and forth…
4K is useless even a 4090 does bottleneck it dsnt make any sense to spend 2k for a gpu that won’t do 4K properly on ultra settings!
it's crazy how good of a deal you can get a microcenter considering the 7800x3d with ram and a mobo package has been under 500$ several times
:( there is only one MC in the western US and it is 700 miles from me .
There isn't one in my country (to my knowledge). But there's bound to be other stores with good prices.
If I was recommending a budget build it would be something like a i7 8700 which is a 6 core cpu that has the best value for the cost over any cpu on the market and then a 2080. You can build a great pc for around $600. There's not a single game you couldn't play on medium to high settings at 1080p.
All these channels only recommend new components because companies don't make any money when you buy older stuff from someone else.
FINNIUSORION
How you sell Museum PC's in the Microcenter ?
WAS THAT A JOKE ?????
This is what I keep saying but a 2080 is a weird choice tbh. I'd need to see the price comparison, I think 5700XT used and 1080ti used also offer really compelling prices next to a 2080, or a RX 6600XT if you wanted newer, or you can go older and get a $100 GTX 980ti or even a $80 RX 580 8gb and play most stuff at 1080p. I can't remember, DLSS 3 at least was useable on older hardware right? Because the only thing is upscaling and I can use FSR on a 580 or 980ti or 1060. But you really don't need it, and a used CPU, actually it's too old now imo but like there's $100 z77 board with a 3770 and cooler and RAM I've seen floating on ebay. You can play games with a couple hundred dollars, and with $600 you can play new games at high detail levels at 1080p.
@@drek9k2 yeah i'm biased in favor of nvidia evga cards that's why I said 2080. my point is people don't realize when you get up into the latest gen in CPU's or gpu's you're paying twice or three times as much for like 30% better performance. and most people wouldn't notice the differences anyway in the majority of applications. especially at 1080p like you were saying.
am4 ryzen 5600 32bg memory B450 3060 12gb plays every thing i have tried at 1080 and mostly over 100 fps.. some games over 200 fps.. well under 800 with ssd.. shop around and go used if possible it will even be less
I need some sort of desktop computer for music production.
It would be awesome if I could also link it to my Quest and game on it in VR. … However, music production is the main goal.
If I was going to build my first Windows PC, rather than build the system around the Mac mini, should I wait until ARM chips and motherboards are available? Is that where PC building is headed?
#buildfix
I use this mostly for 2k gaming but also HTC Vive Pro 2 VR with wireless adapter (yes it works with this current AM4 build).
I'm looking to maybe upgrade CPU to 5800x3d.
Would I need to update bios on mobo? Also guessing I need a better cooler if I do. I originally tried Noctua NH-U12A, but had issues screwing into bracket, the screw would not thread. it also had some bent fins. Returned it and chose to take the money after testing the Wraith cooler.
-MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS Motherboard
-AMD Ryzen 7 2700 (with stock wraith cooler)
-MSI 2070 super
-G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 3600 *with XMP now off (worried that's what killed my first set of two)
-Rosewill PHOTON Series 850W Full Modular /80 PLUS Gold Photon-850
1tb intel gen 3 NVMe for OS and a few games
2tb Samsung 970 EVO NVMe later upgraded for additional storage
Thanks Paul. Call me crazy, I still think the AM4 has a little life left in it. Then again I am two generations behind so it would be an upgrade :)
Didn't he just say it is technically eol? Just technically. Otherwise, it is a very viable platform.
I just upgraded from a 6700K to an AM4 system. I doubled my core count and my GTX 1070 is still rocking.
@@AtomicAJ74 Finally recently replaced my GTX 1080. That GPU just did not want to go. The Pascal gen of GPUs were absolute unicorns. There will never be a generational leap like we saw with Pascal. I wanted to move up in resolution or else Id still be using the 1080. Im gonna pass the old PC down to my friends children, its still very capable of running Fortnite and Roblox very well.
@@stephenhood2948 I listed my GTX 1070 since I have no need for it, but it’s a shame to give it up. And the price I see these cards going for in the used market seems way lower than their value. I listed mine at $120 and so far I have no bites.
@@stephenhood2948 Forgot to mention I just upgraded my card to a 4060 Ti.
Easy. Erying cpu/mobo/ram combo. Used 6700xt. 1tb nvme. 500w psu. Cheap matx case. 3-120mm fans. Done. Mid range under 500usd.
Or used dell precision with i7 9700 and a used gpu you'd want.
Can cheap out on gpu with an aliexpress 6600m for 200usd. Decent 1080p card.
I am so excited for the BuildFix idea! I don't have a build currently, but I could always use some inspiration!
Thank you for these videos, I have always looked to your build guides and I'm happy to see that you cover mid range builds. I can never justify spending money on bleeding edge or top of the line, but I still want decent performance. It seems like most channels only cover both extremes ether budget or top of the line unless they are reviewing a specific product.
I recently got a brand new EVGA 2080super XC ULTRA for $260, which was a great deal. Picked it up from a friend who never bothered to use it and decided to sell, though sucks the Warranty is long gone for it.
This same exact build cost $1787usd +/- in Singapore.
Ryzen 5 7600 6c/12t 280usd
ASUS Dual RTX 4070 Super 12GB is 808 usd
Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 40usd
MSI PRO B650-P WIFI ATX 232usd
G.SKILL 32GB (2x16GB) Flare X5 DDR5-6000 RAM 120usd
Phanteks Eclipse P400A ATX Case 90usd
Gen3 - Mushkin Helix-L 2TB PCIE 3.0 M.2 NVME SSD 140usd
Thermaltake Smart BM3 750W 80+ Bronze 750W 77usd
I tried to remake the mid range list in Philippines, and it cost more or less $1600
Back at the end of November I went with a 7700X and a 7800 XT, and I've been super happy with it. MicroCenter had a really solid deal on the 7700X with a motherboard and RAM bundled for 400, otherwise I was planning on the 7600 or 7700 myself.
I am surprised you're suggesting sticking with the Wraith Stealth on the 7600 though. When I built my 2600X build I stuck with the stock cooler at the time given what reviews said, and I never felt like it was adequate -- I wound up locking my cores to stock speed to keep things at what I felt was a reasonable temp and noise range. Kinda disappointed me.
Would love some advice upgrade build. Kind of limited on funds, but am using a decent television as a dual purpose monitor. It is a LG > 75" Class QNED80 URA series 4K UHD TV - 75QNED80URA. The other components that I are currently have are listed in my build, but I am still looking for reasonable upgrades and cost. Like one of the things I would like to do is a bigger, SSD, and this motherboard does support duel NMVE drives, but the chip is one generation too early for it to be an able both in the NMVE portS ported. Another thing is would like to improve is ARGB options if nothing more than for looks, because the generic fans that are unknown. Have considered different options, but one to use a front mounted 280 mm aio cooler. Also, want to use three other 120 mm case fans along with that cooler that match. Some of the memory parts that are in the list do not actually coincide to the official parts because they are not on PC part picker for some reason. But put the closest equivalent to them in there. This computer is still under a payment plan until I can pay it off in a lot longer time, but would like to get it to where it is actually able to get made by for the next 16 months. Did have far superior keyboard and mouse in the past, but it just totally busted for some reason, and stopped working. So pulled out my old back up logitech K3 50 and M570 to get me by. And it amazing. It still works after so many years. Some keys only work part of the time. But again this is to hold me over until I can find an ARG B, keyboard and mouse combo that will work in my case. As for RGB software, I am currently using signal RGB. Which gives a lot more open ability for products is the reason I use it.
What I do is fairly simple along the lines of gaming, but I do enjoy decent sound as you can tell from my decent 2.1 speaker set up for the computer. As well as a high-end television to do as a double duty as a monitor. Ask her games are not very demanding for the most part, mostly being things like American truck, simulator, and Final Fantasy consul port to the PC. In fact, probably the most demanding game I have on the computer at the moment would probably be the either American truck simulator or FinalFantasy7 remake intermission. But do you like to play these games at 4K HDR 10+. Currently using a display port 1.4 out to HDMI 2.1 cable for the input on the TV. Really need to get a quality, keyboard and mouse, but not sure what to get as of yet.
Here is the PC part picker list for the components that I have currently.
pcpartpicker.com/list/XyP9vj
just put together a new £1800 SFF system in the A4 H20 with a 4070ti, the only used part i bought was a i5 12600k, i'm hoping the Arrow Lake CPU's coming at the end of the year will be worth it over the 14600k nonsense. Price wise its so close to my last ATX build in 2017 with the i5 8600k and GTX 1080 that I was actually shocked, I thought I would be spending a lot more.
Entire Mid-Range PC: $1000-1500
RTX 4090: $1800
I love my 4090, but when I bought my computer last month, even though I specifically saved up for over a year just to be able to buy a really nice gaming PC that I would not have to upgrade for a good while (HP Omen 45L 13900K/4090 config,) I still cried just a little at the amount of money I spent. 🤣 😂😭😭 (But my God is this machine a BEAST tho! And this is literally the first gaming desktop I've ever owned; it was only consoles and a Steam Deck before this.)
Just built a system with the msi b650-p wifi mobo and all I can say is it was agony, make sure that you update the bios while having your ram disconnected, and then populate slots A2 and B2 because it'll refuse to boot otherwise.
build my first pc. thinking about 12600KF + 4060Ti on AsRock Z690 Phantom 4, 32gb 3200. ~1K. just for 1080 games its good for 5 years?(idk if i can make it so far)
I just built a 12600k/4070/Z790/32GB DDR5 system that kills it at 1440p. 1080p would be nothing for the setup you described. Get a cheap 1440p monitor to go with it and enjoy the crispness and buttery smoothness.
Was targeting under $1500 for my new build. Going AM5. No storage because I'm using the 2 NVMe Gen 4 drives in my current rig.
Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Gigabyte B650 Gaming X AX V2
G.Skill Flare X5 Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR5-6000
GIGABYTE Radeon RX 7800 XT
be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850W
ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 240
MONTECH King 95 PRO
Montech AX120 120 mm Fan X 2
The above was just about $1300. How'd I do?
The most overlooked aspect of a build is the monitor. A high refresh monitor will impact a first person shooter dramatically..
Exactly what I was thinking. A good one can easily double the budget as well. Big oversight.
im just gonna use my 12 year old tv lol
@@TigerGreene I just bought a 32" LG Ultragear 165hz 1440p monitor for $200 brand new. Sure you could spend thousands on a 4k OLED, but there is now some value to be had in gaming monitors. Its by no means the nicest monitor available, but looks nice and saves money, two things I have no problem with.
@@stephenhood2948It's probably low quality for that price. And you must have gotten it on huge discount.
Or the prices have plummeted. There were almost no 1440p high refresh monitors at that price in 2019 when I got mine. Mine was $500 then.
Built a Mini Itx system for my GF at the begining of the year. Niether of us play crazy modern ganes and we both use 1080p so i got away pretty cheap at $400. A big saving was using my old 1080ti, but the old card still creaks along for her.
I dunno, only 5 year warranty on a PSU seems a bit on the low side? It doesn't really instill confidence in their own product if they are afraid to give you 7 or even 10 years warranty like some other brands do.
the best price to performance for mid to high end has to be 7500f cpu and 7900gre (OC) gpu, only about 700usd for both for basically 4070 ti super with ryzen 7600 performance
Getting back into pc after about 10 years and prices are crazy picked up a 5600x and a rx6650xt honestly happy with the build for about $900
i have a win 11 i9 9900k and the black liped 3080 ftw3 card lately been having serious input lag on multiplay games with a 40 ping.ive tryed new mice new keyboard no change.these kids with basic laptops running circles around me when i click fire on mouse it lags like suppression fire and im dead
I have a unique build list because it is all parts that I acquired for very cheap prices (some were damaged, returned items, auctions, ect). I was able to scrap together a mid range AM4 platform and now I'm working on an AM5 build. I have been trying to find the best gpu to pair with this system as that is one thing I cant get very often with my methods. Any advice on this matter would be appreciated!
The AM4 build is as follows:
Component: I paid: Original Price (+7% tax):
Asus TUF B550m $62.75 $211.53
AMD Ryzen 5 5600x $109.23 $168.48
T-force TUF 32GB DDR4 RAM $46.76 $80.25
Enermax Liquimax 3 AIO $23.38 $85.64
NO GPU YET
Be quiet! Pure Bass 500 DX case $22.90 $106.90
Samsung 870 EVO 500gb SSD $28.30 $42.80
Thermaltake 600w PSU $64.20 $64.20
Total: $357.52 $759.75
Total Discount: 53% Off.
I got a 3060 12gb for about £270 or $350. This was cheaper than the 3060 8gb at £300 ($380)
What kind of house should I build Paul?😂
ICF
@@Gary.6.10.19 so ICF is ice cream federation
@@mr.rainbowlovescoffee insulated concrete forms. I've got a friend who heats his ICF house through Idaho winters with just the heat from a greenhouse on the south side of the building. Also you can't hear anything outside through the walls which makes them feel different when you go inside of them.
Just got the 7600 @ $199. I literally kept refreshing my Amazon window over a 20 minute period and the lowest price bounced between $240 and $199. It's so odd. At one point the 7600X was cheaper than the non X.
Looking to build a mini itx for the spouse. I already have a 3070 but will need everything else. Nothing high end as she will only turn this thing on once in a while. What am i getting?
My PC is in this picture and I like it. Eerily enough even down to the GF3 PSU (although I went with the 850w). I saved a bit keeping old SSDs and the case from my last rig.
High end: the GPU costs $2000 alone.
That’s nothing
I am about to build my computer and this video was super helpful. Thanks!
Hey paul, idk if you ever put out a video like this but I am a truck driver (semi truck-trailer) and in our trucks we are limited with the wattage we can use. Do you have any video or would be interested in making one for a power efficient gaming pc? Like most power for like 500 watts or something
A brand new build might be labeled mid-range, but compared to what most people in the world are using right now, it is probably a high-end build. Just take a look at the steam stats to see what GPU people are using and that notion is backed up. So don't feel bad about your new build!
Sucks how pre-COVID you could build a high end/enthusiast system for $1,500. Now you can only get mid-range. It's almost like they want to sell less or something.
Also, buying "older" parts might save you some cash in the immediate future, but it also means your system won't be as relevant for as long as it could have been moving forward.
Unless you regularly build new systems every few years, build for one that should last you a minimum of four years, up to seven or even eight, not counting a GPU switch at some point.
It would be nice to have a similar guide for an m-ATX build. Thanks Paul!
I would classify the boot drive as a core component, while additional drives as remaining
To this day I still believe i was do lucky to get an RX580 for $100 before the pandemic and then a 6700XT for $300 as soon as prices dropped.
why you need so many lower tears cards ?
@lucasrem That came across kinda douschey
Nice, had a similar path. RX590 before pandemic and a 6700XT 12 weeks after it launched at MSRP $429
@@lucasremwhy you even care though ??
@@lucasremlower tears? That doesn't make sense.
Hi Paul, I have to say what a wonderful inspiration you have been. I have followed your build guides and recommendations which have taught me so much. I love your speech delivery and easy style that you have and as a "teacher" there are none better on TH-cam. I am now confident of PC building myself. Thank you so much from a big fan in the UK. p.s. STOP STEALING OUR BEER MUGS!!!!...LOL JK.
The Phanteks G300A is almost identical to the P400A (including 3 front fans), and it does have the 3.2 Gen 2 Type C connector on top of the case, for about $10 more.
Why you need Thunderbolt on AMD ?????
If you need that, you need intel ;)
@@lucasrem Just trying to point it out to help anyone that might want the option
This is my current set up, a mix of recent upgrades and older kit as this started as a Ryzen 5 3600 and GTX1070 build. Still not particularly happy with the graphics card but I missed the boat on the 3060Ti and the 5700XT I had in between the 2 was an unmitigated disaster that was so unstable and jet engine loud it forced me to do a sidegrade back to Nvidia.
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X - £180.55
Mobo: ASRock B550M-ITX/AC - £129.95
Ram: 32GB (2x16) Teamgroup T-Force Vulcan Z DDR-3200 CL16 - ~£100 when purchased
Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120SE - £33.90
GPU: Gigabyte CeForce RTX 4060 8GB Eagle OC - £284.00
Boot Drive: Crucial P2 1TB M.2 PCIe Gen 3 - £59.99
Steam Drive: Crucial MX500 2TB SATA SSD 2.5" - £155.59
Case: Cooler Master NR200 - £69.63
PSU: Corsair SF600 600W SFX PSU - £97.97
Fans: 3xThermalright TL-C12C in addition to the fans that came with the case and cooler - £13.39
Total cost: £1124.97
I did the micro center bundle deal and got the 7800x3d,gaming x ax motherboard, and g skill x 5 32gb 6000mhz ram for $450.
What's the best way to update an old pc? I built mine in 2015, and it's running pretty slowly. Part of that is due to damage from dust and me having waited too long to clean it. What compenents would I be able to keep and what should I prioritize upgrading?
MicroCenter has this CPU/MOBO/RAM bundle for 369.99
Ryzen 7 7700X instead of the Ryzen 7600. Seems like such a good deal, will be picking it up tomorrow.
This has to be a troll right? 4070 Super a "Mid Range"? Also, while the AMD isn't supreme, is it truly and surely a mid range part? 32GB of RAM mid-range?
This whole setup reeks of absurdity. Mid Range is 1080p, 16GB of RAM, 6-Core CPU, and an 8GB VRAM GPU.
Low end is last gen, 8GB RAM, 4GB VRAM GPU, Quad Core. A Core i3-14100, with a GTX 970.
4070 super is certainly mid range. A 4080, 4080 super, and 4090 would be high end.
@@drunkhusband6257 That 70 on the end says High End. 70= High End, 80 High End, 90=Ultra End.
50=Mid Range, 60= Mid Range.
Mid Range is a mix of new cards, and older cards from previous generations. The 2070 Super defines the Mid Range.
@@marvinmallette6795 70 series has always been mid range its not high.
@@drunkhusband6257 It has always been high end.
@@marvinmallette6795 70 series was literally never high end
Feels good to have recommended basically this exact build to three friends in the past week.
One very fun money-saving note though for people in the US, Microcenter has some FANTASTIC CPU + mobo + RAM combos right now. Two of the three friends were able to get a 7800X3D combo for only $450, which is of course LESS than a 7600 combo without the deal. There are cheaper Ryzen 7000 combos available too.
a 4070 super is a mid ranged gaming pc?
i don't know. my perception is very different. that's high end.
everything beyond is luxuary!
Fab video guys! If there's any insight on parts lists I would value an opinion where we stand right now. I've lived with my system now for just over six years. It started out with the following core components.. Ryzen 1600, 16Gb RAM, Asus B350F mb, EVGA GTX1070SC, EVGA 650GQ psu. Over the intervening time it's had an upgrade from stock cooler to a Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black edition, memory went up to 32Gb and the CPU swapped out to a 5700X. My quandary now is what to do with the GPU. I've looked across the board and seem to feel that a 3070ish is about the right price/system capacity balance point but would appreciate a second opinion.
Nice episode and so so so timely. I just got Enshrouded off Steam and my system crashes all the time when I try playing. I decided this is a good time to get a new system. The bad news 😢, I need to wait a few months to save up the cash. Hopefully, the Radion RX 7800 XT and the Ryzen 5 7600X I have my eye on will go down in price by June.😊