It's due to pressure to fully check all the boxes on a report. I've heard police say this several times on auditor videos "I have to ID everyone involved if I'm called out to a situation" and then they escalate. Police observe a citizen engaged in a constitutionally protected activity on a call and the person has video evidence they haven't committed any crime, but police still escalate to demand an ID when the person refuses. Police are evaluated and promoted in part based on their completion of paperwork "correctly.". There is no part of any police evaluation and promotion based on "respecting constitutional rights." That is not easily quantifiable compared to number of stops, citations, arrests, and "timely and accurate completion of paperwork."
Imagine going to your boss's office, throwing him up against the wall a couple of times a week, patting him down, searching his pockets, rifling through his desk and still expecting a paycheck at the end of the week. That's what cops do to us! We put food on their table, they abuse us, treat us like criminals and still expect to get paid. This tops the list of insane things we, as humans, keep allowing. We put food on the table and provide your house pays for your health care. And you treat us like we are under you. We are your bosses. Instead of constantly searching for a way around the constitution it is your job to protect it at all costs.
Imagine going to your boss's office, throwing him up against the wall a couple of times a week, patting him down, searching his pockets, rifling through his desk and still expecting a paycheck at the end of the week. That's what cops do to us! We put food on their table, they abuse us, treat us like criminals and still expect to get paid. This tops the list of insane things we, as humans, keep allowing.
6:31 That presumes all citizens are out to get you. The only way that makes since is if all cops are out to get us. You must go off the totality of the circumstance. Is the subject being hostile for instants?
Imagine going to your boss's office, throwing him up against the wall a couple of times a week, patting him down, searching his pockets, rifling through his desk and still expecting a paycheck at the end of the week. That's what cops do to us! We put food on their table, they abuse us, treat us like criminals and still expect to get paid. This tops the list of insane things we, as humans, keep allowing.
Imagine going to your boss's office, throwing him up against the wall a couple of times a week, patting him down, searching his pockets, rifling through his desk and still expecting a paycheck at the end of the week. That's what cops do to us! We put food on their table, they abuse us, treat us like criminals and still expect to get paid. This tops the list of insane things we, as humans, keep allowing.
' employees must wash hands before leaving restroom " THAT,S company policy, if YOU don,t want to wash your hands before leaving the restroom it,s kinda gross but you don,t work there, POLICY is for employees !
'O' All you Kings horsemen & all you Kings men where are the lost eggshells to mend the damage you did when you pushed him of the edge. He was resting on a park bench when you felt the need to rend peace & tranquility from him. No platitudes will mend the damage you've done. You tell yourselves that no matter what you do you will be Okay, but that will not for you win the day. Every life you break spreads it's complaint & not even murder & coverup nor the thin blue line will silence that kind of voice. Take hart & take heed, repair what you can of the ones you've wronged but you will never find all the shards of eggshell to put back in their place.
i don,t remember joe Friday ordering people to the ground, ADAM 12 either, hill street blues? NOPE ! nypd Blue? NOPE ! so this must be something new they teach at the academy, is it allright to ask which part of the ground? like "should i lay in the dogshyt or the wino puke "?
2:40 really? EVERYTHING you did that led up to use of force"? how about the paranoid coward who slaughtered DAN SHAVER ? think the little game of SIMON SAYS had anything to do with it ?
1:35 cop investigators break it down into 2 categories, is there video? and if there is video can we get our FREE TAXPAYER ARMY OF LAWYERS to lie and obsfucate it away , see? only 2 . not 3
Use of force always looks bad (and legal), its just the new society gets their feelings hurt when they don’t get what they want, everyone is entitled now.
Try to have their perspective. When the police you work with get their feelings hurt what do they do? They abuse..... I've seen it and reported it at least 20 times now.
@@jakedode wow, if you interact with police 20 times and its always bad, something is wrong. Im from the ghetto grew up in poverty and only had police interaction maybe 5 times and I knew I should not be doing what I was doing.
@@CPfromEv sounds like everyone and their uncle…..doctors, plumbers, teachers, bakers, cooks, truck drivers. Everyone acts different outside their job.
I along with the auditors and commentators of police interactions would say the ATM method doesn't align with the definition of de-escalation: "reduction of the intensity of a conflict or potentially violent situation." ATM method is only good for giving the chance to comply prior to making a LAWFUL arrest. All the videos show it being misused to escalate by claiming obstruction to make an arrest (entrapment) when only an objection has been made (houston v hill) or no violence/crime has occured and not to actually prevent a violent situation. The civil rights lawyer has talked about case law on passive resistance as well with it not rising to the level of obstruction. I forget the case though. Sources: the civil rights lawyer (john h bryan), we the people university, lackluster, long island audit, direct d, audit the audit, here's the deal, harvey freebird, james madison audits, james freeman and plenty more. @tacticalattorney
🤢 ~ This is what I think is wrong with attorneys and our court system. Attorneys should offer legal procedural advice, not “prepping“ which is just an acceptable word for manipulative coaching. But what he said @19:35 is, quite frankly, disgusting. Prosecutors and civil attorneys don’t tell the defendants what they’re gonna ask and give them every chance to not lie. You’re supposed to find out what kind of person the defendant is, not give them every chance to only tell the truth when there’s no other avenue to get out of trouble. That’s why people don’t trust internal affairs and they hate the police more than they should. But that said, thanks for the video. I want you to be honest on your videos, don’t just tell us to sanitized version. So I’m happy that the truth was told here, but the truth is disgusting.
P.S. and by the way, someone who actually wants to go after bad cops will not be looked after by the Union later on. But if you’re basically a second defense attorney for the Police, then the Union wall scratch your back all day long afterwards.
What does an ID do to tell a cop someones Intentions .?They seem to want the ID like a junkie needs his Drug.
I agree it gives them a seared conscious to Judge and to hate to find fault and thus callous their hearts to a deeper degree of pride and hate.
This obsession with ID has to stop
It's due to pressure to fully check all the boxes on a report. I've heard police say this several times on auditor videos "I have to ID everyone involved if I'm called out to a situation" and then they escalate. Police observe a citizen engaged in a constitutionally protected activity on a call and the person has video evidence they haven't committed any crime, but police still escalate to demand an ID when the person refuses. Police are evaluated and promoted in part based on their completion of paperwork "correctly.". There is no part of any police evaluation and promotion based on "respecting constitutional rights." That is not easily quantifiable compared to number of stops, citations, arrests, and "timely and accurate completion of paperwork."
It’s for prior convictions major part. Shut up that what you do from the beginning.
14:33 this is the thin blue line that makes us crazy. Crimes must be punished.
A day off with pay is NOT going to change bad behavior....
Yea it’s a whole a lot more violent. A person doesn’t even know now if we are going to get murder over a traffic stop.
Thanks for the content using this to help build the foundation to sue a cop
Imagine going to your boss's office, throwing him up against the wall a couple of times a week, patting him down, searching his pockets, rifling through his desk and still expecting a paycheck at the end of the week.
That's what cops do to us!
We put food on their table, they abuse us, treat us like criminals and still expect to get paid.
This tops the list of insane things we, as humans, keep allowing.
We put food on the table and provide your house pays for your health care. And you treat us like we are under you. We are your bosses. Instead of constantly searching for a way around the constitution it is your job to protect it at all costs.
Imagine going to your boss's office, throwing him up against the wall a couple of times a week, patting him down, searching his pockets, rifling through his desk and still expecting a paycheck at the end of the week.
That's what cops do to us!
We put food on their table, they abuse us, treat us like criminals and still expect to get paid.
This tops the list of insane things we, as humans, keep allowing.
You better believe it, cause we’re sick of the abuse.
3:20 nothing goes textbook? geez, the cop who ELECTROCUTED johnny wheatcrofts balls 15 times must have been textbook, he still works there.
6:31 That presumes all citizens are out to get you. The only way that makes since is if all cops are out to get us. You must go off the totality of the circumstance. Is the subject being hostile for instants?
Imagine going to your boss's office, throwing him up against the wall a couple of times a week, patting him down, searching his pockets, rifling through his desk and still expecting a paycheck at the end of the week.
That's what cops do to us!
We put food on their table, they abuse us, treat us like criminals and still expect to get paid.
This tops the list of insane things we, as humans, keep allowing.
"De- escalation" is six cops shooting one civilian in the back instead of one on one face to face murder.
I just had a stroke reading that.
Imagine going to your boss's office, throwing him up against the wall a couple of times a week, patting him down, searching his pockets, rifling through his desk and still expecting a paycheck at the end of the week.
That's what cops do to us!
We put food on their table, they abuse us, treat us like criminals and still expect to get paid.
This tops the list of insane things we, as humans, keep allowing.
Desculation is never used, we find cops like to escalate in order to make an arrest.
' employees must wash hands before leaving restroom " THAT,S company policy, if YOU don,t want to wash your hands before leaving the restroom it,s kinda gross but you don,t work there, POLICY is for employees !
'O' All you Kings horsemen & all you Kings men where are the lost eggshells to mend the damage you did when you pushed him of the edge. He was resting on a park bench when you felt the need to rend peace & tranquility from him. No platitudes will mend the damage you've done. You tell yourselves that no matter what you do you will be Okay, but that will not for you win the day. Every life you break spreads it's complaint & not even murder & coverup nor the thin blue line will silence that kind of voice. Take hart & take heed, repair what you can of the ones you've wronged but you will never find all the shards of eggshell to put back in their place.
i don,t remember joe Friday ordering people to the ground, ADAM 12 either, hill street blues? NOPE ! nypd Blue? NOPE ! so this must be something new they teach at the academy, is it allright to ask which part of the ground? like "should i lay in the dogshyt or the wino puke "?
Make training officers film all their training. Bet that don’t!😂😂😂😊
2:40 really? EVERYTHING you did that led up to use of force"? how about the paranoid coward who slaughtered DAN SHAVER ? think the little game of SIMON SAYS had anything to do with it ?
1:35 cop investigators break it down into 2 categories, is there video? and if there is video can we get our FREE TAXPAYER ARMY OF LAWYERS to lie and obsfucate it away , see? only 2 . not 3
Use of force always looks bad (and legal), its just the new society gets their feelings hurt when they don’t get what they want, everyone is entitled now.
Try to have their perspective. When the police you work with get their feelings hurt what do they do? They abuse..... I've seen it and reported it at least 20 times now.
@@jakedode wow, if you interact with police 20 times and its always bad, something is wrong. Im from the ghetto grew up in poverty and only had police interaction maybe 5 times and I knew I should not be doing what I was doing.
@@CPfromEv sounds like everyone and their uncle…..doctors, plumbers, teachers, bakers, cooks, truck drivers. Everyone acts different outside their job.
Talk is cheap!
I along with the auditors and commentators of police interactions would say the ATM method doesn't align with the definition of de-escalation: "reduction of the intensity of a conflict or potentially violent situation." ATM method is only good for giving the chance to comply prior to making a LAWFUL arrest. All the videos show it being misused to escalate by claiming obstruction to make an arrest (entrapment) when only an objection has been made (houston v hill) or no violence/crime has occured and not to actually prevent a violent situation. The civil rights lawyer has talked about case law on passive resistance as well with it not rising to the level of obstruction. I forget the case though. Sources: the civil rights lawyer (john h bryan), we the people university, lackluster, long island audit, direct d, audit the audit, here's the deal, harvey freebird, james madison audits, james freeman and plenty more. @tacticalattorney
🤢 ~ This is what I think is wrong with attorneys and our court system. Attorneys should offer legal procedural advice, not “prepping“ which is just an acceptable word for manipulative coaching.
But what he said @19:35 is, quite frankly, disgusting. Prosecutors and civil attorneys don’t tell the defendants what they’re gonna ask and give them every chance to not lie. You’re supposed to find out what kind of person the defendant is, not give them every chance to only tell the truth when there’s no other avenue to get out of trouble. That’s why people don’t trust internal affairs and they hate the police more than they should.
But that said, thanks for the video. I want you to be honest on your videos, don’t just tell us to sanitized version. So I’m happy that the truth was told here, but the truth is disgusting.
P.S. and by the way, someone who actually wants to go after bad cops will not be looked after by the Union later on. But if you’re basically a second defense attorney for the Police, then the Union wall scratch your back all day long afterwards.