Alastair Morgan deserves an enormous amount of credit for his work since the brutal murder of his brother. Shining a light into the dark depths of police and raising awareness. Thank you Sir
Yip, but just a shame that it's taken 30 years to get this far. It highlights just how corrupt our "criminal" justice system is. When those employed to uphold it disregard it with such arrogance & impunity.
"I know that I upset a lot of police officers when I talk about police corruption." Anyone who doesn't want police corruption to be talked about should not be trusted to do police work. How can you investigate crime responsibly if you can't even handle it being mentioned? A trustworthy police officer who wants to provide safety to the community would want to see corruption exposed and dealt with like any other crime because it's part of what they're paid to do and especially because refusing to deal with criminals in the police makes the whole police service look untrustworthy and criminal.
or maybe, just maybe people who dedicate their life to service in a world that does not values them anymore, these people get upset when people talk about an issue that does not directly affect them but then makes their job even harder because the trust of the people is lost.
@@QuixoticCowboyif police corruption is rampant, then they shouldnt take it personally, even if theyre not corrupt themselves or if it makes their job harder.
@@QuixoticCowboy Extraordinary power demands extraordinary scrutiny and accountability. If an officer doesn't like that then there are plenty of other jobs they could be doing.
@@QuixoticCowboy maybe, just maybe, if police were actually TRUSTWORTHY then they wouldn't have to be worried or upset about us not trusting them? If a cop wants me to trust and/or value them, then it's pretty simple for them to gain that - they just have to arrest a colleague. That arrest doesn't even need to lead to a conviction, I just want to see them at least making an attempt at doing their job properly instead of claiming that every member of the police they know is a "good apple"
Watching many of these insider views on crime, smuggling etc. it's amazing to consider how pretty much everyone who was ever involved with organized crime, be it a part of it or fighting against it, comes to the same conclusion: that the war on drugs is lost and that prohibition causes way more harm than good. It truly says something when so many people from so many different backgrounds and walks of life come to the same conclusion, yet nothing is done about it.
Speaking from the inside. It is not so much that nothing is done it is more "what can we do instead that will actually show an improvement with less harm." See many places have tried dergulating narcotics and its gone bad. And I mean really bad. Where I live we have now had 3 major waves of deaths from deregulated narcotics. So now where previously you didnt see this stuff or it was higher quality and safer, because there is less oversight on both sides toxic stuff is getting through. Even with free testing at festivals and events. Death after death for months on end even with publicized warnings. Didnt stop till it was made illegal again. A second example of deregulation not working is tobacco. In many parts of the world it is actually the number 1 drug traded on the black market. Yet it is legal to buy. Lastly since the deregulation the health system has seen a disproportionate amount of young people struggle with chemical dependands and the ruinous impact it has on everyone around them. This impact is social, mental, physical and economic on a national scale.
The problem is an extreme one as we don't want to take crazy solutions yet anything less will be ineffective and likely counterproductive. Proponents of the most accepting doctrines will have you believe that the government could - despite being incapable of maintaining roads no matter how much money you pour into it - outcompete established international criminal enterprises. Obviously, this is a bad idea fit only for very few countries, but we must contrast this with the equally awful (unfortunately true) idea that the opposite solution - the crackdown, complete with the military, militias, and civilian vigilantes - results in a hopefully short period of unacceptably high levels of violence and complete forfeiture of rights. Again, would only work in certain countries, as it has in the past. We should not say the war is lost, as we never fought it. We sent in tiny numbers of crime specialists to deal with a much larger issue than their departments were ever designed for, and then we act surprised when their best efforts come up short. In reality, if we wanted to crush the problem, we could do so easily with the proper expenditures of "blood and treasure" - horrible and likely excessive use of military might at home and abroad. simple as that. WE, the voters, are the problem. We would never vote for either policy, so the issue will simply persist forever.
@@boldCactuslad pretty much this. So like I said above we ride the middle ground of doing nothing. Throwing the occasional "Look we did this" to the voters but actually all it is is as you so exquisitely put it. Wasting Blood and Treasure.
Uruguay is the first and only country to have the state control cannabis, making it completely legal. Citizens can grow up to six plants at home. The state has their own dispensaries, and private people also. The problem is that because its surrounded by cocaine producing countries, Montevideo's port's home o large amounts of cocaine base entering the country, which is then turned into powder cocaine. This is illegal, and cocaine use has more than quadrupled in the last 15 years or so. There seems to be something about illegal drugs that makes people want to consume more. Legalization's the only way out of this horrible mess.
I was a police officer in a large county force in England. We allowed the crime reporter of the local paper into the nick at any time. Any room he was stopped from entering had to be explained to him. He could take it to the super. It was banned by the government. The police in England/Wales are forbidden by law to say how badly their force is resourced, or problems with lack of manpower. For a time, we had a recovering drug/alcohol addict in the cell block available to any inmate who wanted to talk about addiction or similar. That was stopped, yet he was a fabulous check on any abuse of power. (He was a great bloke as well.). We had lay visitors to the nicks, cells and CCTV control rooms. I think these are still allowed but not encouraged. I stand to be corrected. The police are banned from speaking to the press. All these laws and regs by the government and Home Office have the result of separating the police from checks and controls. The police should, must, be open and transparent. We should have lay persons going through the nick without a schedule. That's not what the government want because it will show just how poorly the various forces are resourced. They need more staff, especially more supervisors to be responsible for PCs and sergeants. I was in the police from the middle 70s. I've written a couple of Kindle books about corruption in the 70s and 80s - Both Sides of the Force et sec. I was in Crossing the Line of Duty (possibly still available on BBC iPlayer) where police corruption was exposed. The police changed fundamentally in the middle 80s, with higher pay and reasonable conditions of employment being the big improvements. The tory government of Cameron and May destroyed any hope of a professional force by continually attacking it. Moral dropped much faster than pay. The BBC series I was in had a detective constable confess to taking bribes. He explained the process of corrupting him. Simple, easy steps, and soon he was trapped. There is no way corruption can be eradicated from any largish organisation. I've been involved in an enquiry into local government were a whole department was taking bribes, even, remarkably, a temp on maternity cover! Lack of effective supervision is what encourages corruption. Sorry to go on, but it's important to me. It's important to everyone come to that.
But the huge scale of payments to corrupt officers, their pensions (resigning under investigation after signing off sick with stress), the cover-ups, the inquiries, the inquiries into the failed inquiries & further investigations (How many inquiries were there into Stephen Lawrence case failures? Each one had a problem with even further corruption & wrong-doing by police officers. Daniel Morgan, Sheku Beyou, Shirley McKie, Jean Charles de Menezes, Emma Caldwell.....it's an exhaustive list). Police officers need to stand up to this nonsense & do their job. Complicity kills (quite literally). The lengths they will go to cover up crime & corruption (especially for promotions some are just not entitled to, whilst other exceptional officers get bypassed every time despite being highly qualified & great at the job). Most of it is political for personal or financial benefit & covers up political corruption. It's tax payers who pay their wages, not those who avoid paying it. Harassing & attempts to criminalise those who stand up to it, creating false narratives & using (& paying) criminal CHIS to do the dirty work off books - it's not on. This, is where the money, time & resources go. There's more than enough budget, resources, shared work (never see any cops on patrol here unless they pass by in cars), etc. Then ALL of the systems we now have - shared databases, Predpol, Cellebrite, Airwaves, etc. There's no excuse. Enough resources to cover up corruption & crime, just not to deal with it. Change starts from within, a little bit of spine, backbone, courage & the balls to see it through. If there;s more straight cops than bent ones... let's see it!
Hence the reason I left the police service where I live. Lost my pension and my character was dragged through the mud in public for speaking out about all the BS corruption I saw and knew about. And to rub salt into the wound, the union was as useless as tits on a bull. Funnily enough, after I left the service I went back to higher education majoring in Criminology and Criminal Justice and now work for the Ombudsman and Integrity Commission with a reputation of being a 'pitbull'
@@Tazza81 Good on you. We need more people like you in the force & investigatory bodies. In Scotland, it's those same corrupt officers (political promotions).
I went to a very nice school that organises how people lives. No one is willing to believe how tightly scripted everything is. No one is willing to challenge how severe corruption is at a higher level in the UK.
My wife's Uncle was a gamekeeper. He caught a Poacher. The Poacher arrested him. It was an off-duty police officer. His licenced guns were confiscated. He was charged with threatening behaviour. Eventually the charges were dropped and the guns were returned. The Officer transferred to another force.
@@carloscontreras3633thousands of stories like this worldwide in countries where billion-dollar illegal animals trade operates. But unlike it, many dont have happy endings, the farmer gamekeeper or animal rescuer killed or injured or their family harassed.
I am living in Greece, most police officers are hunters. Most officers are also far right believers. Many are members of far right organizations. Many do secondary jobs to survive including guarding of night clubs and guarding of wealthy individuals. All that is considered normal here and police officers don't want to discuss it as it is their right as they say to do whatever they want off duty.
A work colleague of mine had a boyfriend in London who owned a small hotel. Like many others, he employed undocumented migrants as casual labour. He paid monthly bribes to local CID police for many years. In the end, he set up security cameras and filmed the police collecting their monthly pay-offs over a three month period. Next time they came, he showed the film and audio to the police and told them copies were in the possession of his solicitors. He never saw the corrupt officers again.
He's right about cops not believing another did wrong. A cop attempted to crash his car (his personal car) into mine by slamming his brakes on after doing other dangerous actions then started chasing me when i tried to escape some psycho (never legally identified himself and not on duty) the rest of the police force tried to defend him even claiming it was an unmarked car while I had video evidence of his assault, chase and attempted illegal stop.
I think it's more about being frightened of the consequences of grassing up a colleague rather than refusing to believe they had done something wrong. I guess most cops know the bad apples amongst them and are fully aware of the power they have.
@@jasonvoorhees6152 I doubt it. If you whistleblew from within the force you would be out within weeks, guaranteed. If you were a member of the public that reported a cop, you'd be on the cop's harassment list for ever!
Neil Woods' book 'Drug Wars' is both a fascinating and terrifying insight into the links between drug barons and the police in the UK. He makes a very convincing case that the continued criminalisation of drugs is literally the driver of almost all organised crime in the UK. The only conclusion that one can come to after reading his book is that any politician who is against the decriminalisation of drugs, is almost certainly profiting in some way from the sale of those drugs.
Where I live in Australia we didn't have organised crime problems or ice/ meth. What we had was everyone could grow legally 10 marijuana plants. Which became 4 as hydro became a thing. Then zero. Now gangs/ bikies are a thing and so is organised crime. I don't touch drugs except coffee and a rare drink. But damn I can see the change in my life. Let's make the least damaging one basically legal in personal use quantities again.
@@Badartist888 the only place you could grow plants was south Australia back then. Not know. Canberra is the only legal place definitely not 10. I bet you have a drug problem in your area just don't see it. It's called underworld for a reason. It only comes up when police put lots of pressure on and it turns the people paranoid. Then mistakes are made. It's a war on ppl not drugs as you witness. Yes police use the cars houses for revenue. That's why you have this system. More money in drugs then other commodity. Wealth from this makes politicians very rich.
@@Badartist888 Bruh, who do you think is behind the black market tobacco and human trafficking industries in Australia if not organized crime? Both have been huge markets for long.
Many politicians are against the decriminalization of drugs simply because they want to earn votes and the average citizens are too simplistic and gullible - and on some subjects, even brainwashed - to understand how enormously more damaging prohibition is than decriminalization. So those politicians will not tell people something that would lose them votes instead of earning. Prohibition gives us the illusion that we are doing "something" against the drug problem, and that's what we want, it allows us to think that we have a clean consciense and are good people fighting evil, so that closes the subject, it's useless to try to reason with them on a realistic basis. Go figure, even after prohibition on alcohol showed exceedingly clearly what a loser prohibition is, there are still plenty of groups - and probably some politicians - who claim it would be better to make alcohol illegal again.
legalisation of drugs will spell the end of any society. That's why Britain forced China to buy their opium. That's why states in the US with lax drug legislation face massive addiction and homelessness issues. Anyone advocating for the decriminalisation of drugs is just an idiot.
It is rare to have such an honest accounting of the current state of law enforcement as we experience it today. You must be brave to wear the badge but infinitely braver to wear the badge and talk about Police corruption in such a matter of fact way. Policing is a difficult job made even tougher when most civilians, even those related or married to Officers have a hard time understanding the culture and the challenges the job imposes on its practitioners. He is correct when he says that while most major police agencies investigate police corruption, these investigations are many times at odds with the image of trust and transparency these agencies work extremely hard to promote and cultivate. A battle that will be waged for eternity it seems. Excellent reporting, thank you!
@@Liverpoolboy01 A _genuinely_ independent oversight with strong enforcement powers would help. It's an ancient problem, the Romans had it too -- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
@@Liverpoolboy01 easily said, but if you're offered five grand extra a month to "just" pass on information and threatened with (for example) your daughter being raped if you don't.....well, what ya going to do?
Several years ago my department- a US sheriff's office- had to fire several jailers after they were found smuggling contraband to inmates. Their motivation? Misplaced loyalty- The jailers and inmates were usually childhood friends and most of the jailers were real young getting hired at the minimum age of 18. Our department partially remedied the situation by raising the hiring age to 21 although it has been lowered back to 18. A department culture against corruption is definitely key. I been told multiple times by older officers don't cover for other's screw ups, to be mindful of my behavior, and hearing tear downs of other questionable departments and officers.
The situation in the UK with His Majesty’s Prison Service is really not that much better. I think there was a minutes with episode with a lad who smuggled in contraband for a few months and as he said he was never trained on how to deal with situations like that, nor was he provided any mental health supports for the stuff he saw on his wing. I feel like very few countries do incarceration correctly, for example the Nordic countries seem to have a great record for it.
At this point imo the police trying to maintain public confidence by refusing to investigate, address or publicly acknowledge corruption/racism has damaged public confidence in the police more than anything else they could have done in that situation
Imagine if the aviation industry worked this way. Cover up crashes, ignore the causes, deny involvement or responsibility, etc. Imagine how dangerous flying would be!
People don't trust them because they don't seem to even try and solve major crimes, instead policing Twitter and people's speech The coverups for fear of being called racists or islamaphobes also doesn't help public trust
What racism? Ethnic profiling is common sense, considering it's non-White ethnicities who commit the vast majority of the crime. And I honestly don't know of any cases where there was racial prejudice.
Most court cases in the world do not use any recording devices in the courtroom other than the typist writing everything said Some courts have introduced cameras But ultimately If a judge makes a decision it will not be changed at the time. You have to appeal The judge is like a ref If you get a penalty in hockey. No matter how much you plead your case. He will not change his mind There should be Assistant judges are required in every court case. 2 judges must agree or the case charges are stayed for one year. Gives time for police to find more evidence. And a free pass to the person being charged if no new evidence is found. Must be evidence. Not circumstantial evidence If it's family or civil if two judges can't agree. It should be sent back to mediation or arbitration
My uncle witnessed a murder in the 70's and had to be put in to witness protection. He was from Ireland and for 15 years (until the murderer had died basically) everyone in the family thought he had died. Which was worse because he had had a massive argument with my grandad about a week before the murder. They reconciled before my grandad died but my grandmother died not knowing he was still alive.
This is truly terrifying. The fact that corruption is so rampant within the police up to the highest level. Even our witness protection schemes has corruption within it is deeply worrying. As said in the video the witness protection scheme is our last line of defense and now we learn even that isnt safe. Scary stuff.
Honestly, I have a friend who is a sheriff (truly a good guy) and I’ve known some good police officers, but I’ve also inadvertently had to deal with corrupt officers as well. I have become more and more disheartened over the years. I used to be so young and naïve. Now in my mid 30s, I’ve Seen and heard of too much that I actually feel quite scared of officers altogether.. Sometimes terrified
American cops are on a whole other level. Most British cops don't even have guns and with a population of 70 million, the UK has an average of 2 civilians killed by cops a year. An unarmed person dying during a violent arrest happens every few years and is usually massive news and there are investigations and so forth. Most European nations are the same. Cops in German (population 80 million) killed one guy in 2021. Cops in the USA shoot dead over 1200 civilians every single year. The numbers are so high they don't even release official figures and journalists have had to piece them together. The USA also locks up a higher percentage of its citizens than any nation in history. With 4% of the global population, they have 20% of all prisoners on earth. Yet, Americans seem oblivious to these statistics and have no idea their police behaviour is way beyond the norm.
@@paul66990 they only look at it by numbers, surface level thinking. The amount thats there is not effectice 95% plus crimes not solved, focus on wokeness and enforcing feelings, qualified immunity so not really accountable as corruption. Why would they work hard no real consequence, but goodness me when their ego hits they’ll try everything.
Not corruption. The police The government. The corporations. No matter where, no matter what. These are the biggest gangs the earth has ever known. They have built themselves a status quo, woven a moral fabric to protect themselves, and brainwashed all of us to think upholding these values will be beneficial to us. That is bullshit. Burn it all down. Abolish the police, destroy the economy, annihillate the global heat machine and bring peace back to the oppressed peoples of the world. ACAB ACAB ACAB NO MATTER WHAT. NEVER FORGET 2020
@@ColtTheWolf In a sense yes, corruption is everywhere, but then capitalism (especially its unregulated forms) incentivizes weak morals through prioritizing profit and self-gain, which benefits from some sort of corruption.
Stoke Newington Police were extremely diligent in ensuring that their station was a shining beacon of corruption, malpractice, violence, racism, and misogyny...
It's still a shock when you see how corrupt they are, I'd never had anything to do with the thugs until 4 years ago straight away I knew I was dealing with criminals and I was right
Neil Woods has a fantastic book about his experience as an undercover police officer. Good Cop, Bad War. Highly recommend reading it. As well as his book on the Drugs War as a whole. Both excellent and very interesting.
I had a copper pull me out of work as a service station attendant and take me to a small room at the police station. He said he could pin me as a drug dealer because of the nature of my job where I came into contact with lots of people and cash changing hands. He wanted me to become a police informer in a small town, giving me instructions on who he wanted information on. When I laughed at him saying he must be joking he became violent and threatening physical harm . I'm sure he thought he was in a Hollywood movie and he was the star of that movie.. Not long after my "Interview" with him this Police Sargent he was got caught bashing a school cleaner born with Down Syndrome that would never hurt a fly And was given the sack from the police force. All police are Corrupt in my view and the public are the enemy in their eyes.
I know someone (a friend of a friend) who was a very low level dealer. When arrested the police added weight to ensure he had prison time. It was at that moment that I only spoke to the police via lawyers.
Bollocks your boy got caught end of your boy was a very small cog in an extremely large wheel and pretended to you who he took advantage of he was big time when in reality he was a simple flee
Yup happened to me with an Oz of weed turned into 35g in single bags and it was only found because I was knickers for a street fight 😒 never been a dealer and only have a few minor convictions for fighting when I was younger. Instead of a simple fine I got 12 months probation. Also I have had a copper make a 8th of coke disappear down the loo whilst getting arrested for an unrelated matter and had a motorcycle copper take my car keys from me for 24 hours when I got pulled one night whilst pissed and off my face 😭
Everyone lies and criminals lie all the time about this stuff. They lie and betray their "friends", thats why they are criminals. Its always funny when people choose to believe someone who makes a living manipulating, stealing, lying ...etc. We know have countless situations with bodycam were sexual harrassment is published to have happened only to examine the footage and there was absolutely none of that. Every criminal when caught will lie if that helps his case or helps his standing with his non criminal friends.
I used to work for a Professor of History, Journalist, and Author. His father was a Police Sergeant until he retired in the 1930s. He said his father always refused to be promoted above Sergeant because, as his father explained, that meant he would have to become corrupt. I was in my twenties when I realised the Police were corrupt - and nothing has changed in all the years since.
It was like that in the 90s they got hols of the transmitter radios for stealing cars and getting away in time basically dodging them road by road. Pretty handy if you ask me lo
Just as the USA police do now, back then UK police used unencypted radion networks and a scanner could pick up their whole transmission. Was a very useful tool for crooks.
Police corruption is rife...my mind takes me back to 50 years go...I was walking home from a night out...I was with a small group of friends and the police rocked up asking us for details of address name etc which I gave to the officer who asked...their were two coppers involved in this stop and asking/fishing for information. As said, I gave the first officer my details, than...the other copper asked me to provide the same details to him. I refused, stating that I had already provided this information to his colleague. He was really miffed that I wouldn't give my details again. What happened then was this copper who was miffed, bundled me into a van, drove half a mile where there was a dark quiet piece of waste ground where he got me out of his vehicle and started to push me violently in the chest in an attempt to get me to retaliate...the copper who initially got my details was visibly uncomfortable with his colleagues actions (but said nothing) as this other thug kept pushing me...I did not retaliate to his aggression though I dearly wanted to and eventually they drove off. The very next thing I did was walk to the police station (about two miles) and complain about this officers behaviour towards me by giving a statement. I was told, that If I wanted I could get this copper fired, at the time I was 17 and said no I didn't want him fired (though if it happened today I would)....about a year later this idiotic tyrannical bully left the police. This was 50 years ago and still we see evidence of corrupt coppers with their complete disdain for their own policies regarding the general public
So many people die because of current drug policy, it's frightening. Even if people have little compassion for users (as if seeking escapism by other means than alcohol should equal death sentence) many innocent,uninvolved people fall victim to drug war and cartel wars. How many more need to die ? :(
Yes, it’s almost always the low level users they target. Granted some of them will be shifting small amounts of drugs to cover their habits but you rarely hear of any of the bigger dealers being caught or jailed. The likes of the dealer/user this ex officer pressed into adulterating an oz into a kg by mixing it into around 35 times as much powder would probably not have committed the burglaries either if they didn’t have a habit. Instead of criminalising him they could have limited the police, court and incarceration costs by getting him rehab help.
@@murph8411 prison costs are going down, it's only £225/day currently, but rehab is much more expensive at up to £700/day & even then only works if the recipient wants it _and_ is ready.
I have personally been targeted by police corruption, to the extent of a defendant being protected, even after a signed statement admitting guilt, and subsequently vanishing. Along with an officer involved also disappearing. A team of detectives combing a large area of coast to obtain an exhumation order. (That was carried out after a two-year period following burial) All to put me off the trail. The coroner and C.P.S were also involved. Files had been shredded and lack of evidence. I have been trying to come to terms with it since 2007, but for me there will never be resolve.
Dude, I friggin LOVE this guy and his stories. They’re not just unreal and terrifying and the danger involved. But, you can also tell he’s a very intelligent man and he must have been incredibly savvy in order to navigate this world and come out the other side with his head on straight and just generally in tact. I really hope they do more interviews with woody in the future
My friends dad was a landlord and was quite well known in the local area for taking up cases against corrupt officers. his brother was a landlord and rented his house out to a group of people. did a background check and everything seemed legit so they were allowed to stay. the people then rented the place out to drug dealers who grew weed. there was a raid and everyone involved was arrested, including my friends dad, who knew nothing of it. he got eight years because apparently he should have know about the presence of a weed factory in one of his brother’s ten houses.
@@localkaufyou sound like a bent copper making a passive aggressive comment to someone who was targeted for "snitching" about bent cops - go away. To speedsongs your dad was a good man who was obviously targeted thank you for sharing his story
@@xmmx9909 nah I just don't like landlords. They leach off of the hard work of other people. And when something goes wrong, it's never their fault, it's always the lousy tenants.
@@localkauf In that case I apologize. I completely agree with you and also hate landlords, grew up as a child in rented places. But I hate bent cops more than landlords. Have had bad experiences with bent cops in 3 different countries. There are good ones but very few.
I don't think comfort has anything to do with it. They feel the obligation because of what they've experienced in their lives due to police corruption. In a world where most people use social media for their own personal gain, at least there are those brave enough to use it in order to call out corruption regardless of how uncomfortable it might make them or those who want to tell themselves it doesn't exist or affect anything around them.
A drug dealer I know got got raided and the police confiscated £40k in said raid but when entered into evidence it had miraculously become £20k. They also confiscated 4 Rolex watches and an amount of gold jewellery but only 1 watch made it into evidence and only half the gold. These coppers don't do too badly!
I knew someone who got caught with about 8 ounces of a peculiarity striated and distinct Moroccan hash. This was mid 1980s and in the sleepy Gloucestershire town we are talking about, dealing hash, especially 8 ounces, would probably have resulted in a custodial sentence back then. When he went to court he was only charged with possession of half an ounce. Strangely, mysteriously, the distinctive Moroccan hash appeared on the streets again for a few weeks after his day in court. (He was not imprisoned) It was not him selling it either.
I just watched the Line of Duty series when I came across this interview! This interview is very timely and helps me understands the context behind the series.
In the UK they are taught to be friendly as then people are more likely to give up information. You have to watch out for that. A stranger wouldn't ask for your name so if they do then it is malicious. After all why would someone on the street want to know your name if they will never see you again?
tbh tho the police in the Uk are lovely, and I'm not doing anything insidious enough to warrant the need for my name or information, so I'd much rather that they come across as friendly and helpful, even if that makes me disclose more freely than with a colder bloke.
@@ilikechineseteaespeciallyj7262 Someone I know was put under false arrest and groped for several minutes by UK officers after calling when a group attempted assaulting her. They had nothing on her and let her go after. Those pigs are not "Lovely".
I’ve read Neil Wood’s books & unfortunately spent too many years on the opposite side of this drug “war”, so have a little understanding of the subject. His knowledge & nads of steel get my full respect. I cudnt think of a better person to investigate corruption. The 2 fellas voiced same conclusion I came to 30 years ago over legalising drugs. Did ppl learn nothing from American prohibition?!
The war on drugs is a direct result of the end of prohibition. They had an agency of bully boys, and nothing to do with them, so they tweaked the law to create new targets.
Drugs were actually made illegal in the USA not long after prohibition was lifted. I've heard it suggested that it was actually because the huge underworld created by prohibition and the many "legitimate" people (including those in power) who made huge sums from it, needed a new area to move into. Alcohol was just too easy to make for prohibiting it to fully allow its sale to be centralised by organised crime groups. Drugs on the other hand...
@@PonderingStudent The market for drugs was largely regulated as pharmaceutical products at that point. Tinctures of cannabis were prescribed for as many problems then, as now, liquid morphine and cocaine were also medical products, as were amphetamines. And later uppers and psychedelics were introduced by big pharma, pretty much all of them started out as prescribed products. There was some trafficking in low quality marijuana among the Mexicans, and there was an opiate problem in some communities, the jazz community as an example, but there weren't the same customers as there were during prohibition so it wasn't simply a matter of just changing what you sold, making and running moonshine is a very different business to sourcing and distribution of drugs, particularly back then it was two entirely different worlds and no internet to point your way into new business niches. Once all the drugs were legislated to be illegal, a lot of them were then also restricted for medical use, and that's the point at which criminals took over, eventually giving way to organised crime and gangs. LCN took a dim view of drugs early on, and didn't become key players in that trade until much much later. From what I've been able to ascertain, the egg came first in this instance. That is, legislation was passed so that the newly formed agency which they were pleased with, could expand in scope, rather than being shut down when prohibition was reversed. Rather than drugs becoming such a problem in society that an agency was mobilised against them. That didn't really happen until the sixties when LSD got out of the Sandoz labs and into mainstream circulation. Then in the eighties with cocaine and much much more. Even the current scourge of America, meth, was a lab product invented in the late nineteenth century. Which was used by several governments, especially during wartime. Just like Oxycontin and the wave of opiates in recent history, it's mostly been driven by big pharma profiting from the war on drugs, more than anything else. You can't patent a plant, and they want you using their products, not an alternative that puts no cash in their pockets. Which is also why despite the rise of antibiotic resistance, it's taken so long for anyone to start looking into bacteriophages. The Soviets have been maintaining phage banks for decades, and western doctors are well aware of the efficacy, but medicine is about money, not curing the most people. Until that changes, the war on drugs will continue, and it will do nothing but bring misery to millions and deprive countries of generation after generation, sat in prison for possession or sale of plant by-products.
This is the issue with the police in general - if you give a monopoly on violence to a specific group of society who are only accountable to themselves then obviously they will abuse it. We really need to start questioning the role of the police in modern society and who exactly they exist to protect
I advise you to go to countries without a regular police force to leave your spoiled view of the world behind. Go to Nigeria, Kongo, Mexico (regular police is in fear of cartel retribution)...etc You really have NO idea how good of a system it is to have a police force like we have in western societies and we are destroying them by making them weaker by the year. The problem is our bias. We see the mistakes and corruption police does under a microscope but ignore the brutal consequence if a police isnt the regulating body. Just look up how much pain albanian mafia is able to cause in the world with trafficing women as sex slaves because Interpol is a joke and police often cant do anything despite knowing full well of the criminal enterprises that are much much more harmful to society. You will never get a perfect system but our police forces with high emphasis of internal affairs anti corruption officers is the best thing by far!!!
Just to note that Police in the UK are accountable to the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) and are scrutinised intensely on their use of force. But if you mean the US, then yes, Police across that nation are organised more independently and aren't generally as accountable as a result
Fine then, let's make Robocop happen. A Robot cannot be corrupted (except if it was hacked or hijacked), They cannot fear death, they cannot fear for their family's safety since they didn't exist, They will be just and they probably will not be persuaded by wealth. Just don't expect kind treatment from them because they probably won't care if you are a man or a woman. Honestly i don't even know anymore who should be the police of the modern time if Robot police officer is really a thing. On one hand human can have human feelings so they can treat other humans better but a robot is just a program, they can't corrupt but they also don't have the humanity inside them. These kind of questions is always great for those Sci-fi dystopian story though.
I've seen this guy talk on a few different issues within the larger law enforcement/crimminal(of all types) world and I have to say that I couldn't agree more with most of his stances and arguments.
2:20, in Sweden, where I live, we're having increasing problems with serious organised crime (we now have a handful of clan-based criminal networks, there's shootings and explosive detonations pretty much every week and people are afraid to go out at night), and interestingly enough, since we didn't use to have these problems, literally everyone's home address is a matter of public record, as is everyone's income, how much their house or apartment was bought for, and which car registration plates they're listed as owners of. So. Yeah.
@@carloscontreras3633 "Finally, another important right in any free society is the liberty to contribute to the Public Good. But for this to happen, it must be possible to make the state of affairs in society known to one and all, and everyone must be free to express their thoughts about it. Where this is lacking, liberty is not worth its name. Issues of war and the like, which foreign adversaries and attackers may abuse, will need to stay secret for a time, but only for the sake of enemies. Civilian issues and questions of internal wellbeing should in much lesser degree be hidden from the eyes of the citizens. Otherwise, it could easily happen that only foreign adversaries with destructive goals have access to all secrets through spies and bribes, while the people themselves, who should hold influence, are left unknowing about most things. If, on the other hand, everything is publicly available information, the people can at least discover what is causing prosperity or damage, and call everyone's attention to it, provided that there is freedom of the press. Then, the country can always be led by truth and love for the fatherland, which is that basis of the wellbeing of all." - Peter Forsskål, "De libertate civili" (1759) §. 21
remember kids, don't tell the police anything (except "am I required to do x?", "am I free to go?", "where's my lawyer" and "I'm not answering without consulting my attorney"), tell the paramedics everything, they ain't snitching. Just... don't keep arguing with an aggressive cop, don't fight it in the streets, fight it in court, unless you happen to have a deathwish, oh and record everything you can if your country allows it
Dealing with overbearing depression, anxiety when going outside. I am trying to bury the scary feeling I have now, Rape crime is the one that many police officers hide. 3 years later, and I am depressed, non-verbal and have no one to turn to.
I hope you can start to heal eventually, I'm very sorry that happened to you. I know it doesn't feel like it and believe me I know it's far from easy, but things really can get better and you have so much life still to live. Good luck in your recovery and finding a way to talk to a therapist about this, I'm rooting for you I really am. You are so much more than your pain ❤
Absolutely spot on about decriminalising drugs and putting the supply on the responsibility on the state. It would take so much out of the pockets of criminals. If the money is ut back in to healthcare and education, it will help adicts make more informed choices in the beginning and help them recover should they become addicted. Makes perfect sense to me.
@@derickjude7188 I'm for real. I don't see what you're driving at. Are you saying it's not going to happen because politicians are bennefitting too much right now from the illegal drugs trade? If they take away the revenue sources from wealthy criminals then the politicians lose out too? (So they're not going to do it?).
Great video and two great guests who are legends in their own right. As for drugs, take it out of the hands of the cartels and treat drug problems as what they are: public health problems. If you leave the market to these vicious gangsters and murderers, what can we expect to happen? Tax the dealers at 99%, it will no longer be worth their time.
I looked it up and the Morgan lawsuit was settled via mediation for an undisclosed but "significant six-figure sum". I can't imagine this is in any way satisfying to Alastair and his family except in so much as to end the matter. I wish them all the best; they are incredible, strong people with more character than I can even imagine. This is a dark, depressing look into the realities of policing. I appreciate the view, and the interviews were great, but this is so sad.
I have been stalked for 15 years/ we were driven out of our home by harassment and vandalism- I could go on and on- I’d love to speak with Neil about this.
We really need him to check out West Mercia Constabulary. They used to turn up for my neighbour but his phone would always ring 5 minutes before they arrived and then he'd be gone like a shot!! We got threatened by one of their seargents to keep quiet and stop reporting him.
You've also got to take into account the fact that the Met are also the force responsible for the financial centre of the UK (even though the 'Square Mile' is supposed to have its very own police force). There's eye watering amounts of money being made by organised crime and they aren't stashing it under the bed. Whilst the public are told to focus their attention on topics like 'county lines'. The very same people who are rubbing shoulders with politicians at Westminster members only clubs are facilitating the laundering of vast sums of money through financial institutions. Just like dodgy Russian oligarchs with enough cash could easily live hassle free in London if they greased the right wheels. Then those at the top of organised crime live without fear because they're ensuring the right beaks are being kept permanently wet. It's a massive industry that's infiltrated everything from the law and politics and everything in-between. Ask yourself why a government would want to transform it into a health rather than a legal problem when the 'right kind of people ' (according to them) are making very good money from the way the system is currently constituted? This country is as corrupt as any other once you scratch the surface a bit and disregard the facade of respectability those at the top try to project.
I have long held the British police in high esteem. Corruption of all kinds is rampant in the USA now, or so it seems to me! American cops are often somewhat 'bent'. I have a lot of respect for anyone who is honest, especially police officers. Corruption is a fact of human life, I figure. I wish great luck to anyone struggling against it. And drug money is a powerful force against honesty everywhere! Best of luck to the UK!
That thing you call corruption in your case is official practice here in the US. The standard here is very loose in the sense that we'd regard anyone who can be talked into something without very substantial psychological pressure as being disposed to commit the crime. It's a huge problem in conjunction with laws that aren't seen as inherently wrong by many (drug crimes). It means that the police can pick and choose who they want to imprison since there is a huge fraction of ppl who can be manipulated into doing illegal activities.
There is a LOT of money that can be gained from human trafficking, but it's as hard to pull off as murder is. Drug distribution may pay less but it's a lot easier/safer to do for the organisation, so that's why 99% is the drug trade.
The first true crime podcast I listened to was about the Daniel Morgan case. It's shocking. The amount of "straight forward cases" that are unsolved is horrible
Both crime and corruption at all levels of law enforcement as well as the political establishment absolutely went through the roof in the United States during Prohibition. Why would anyone think drug prohibition would be any different?
That’s the best argument I’ve heard so far for legalization of drugs. Unfortunately, in the places where it’s been attempted drug use just skyrockets and society is significantly degraded (see Portland Oregon, where they had to reinstate some criminality eventually).
Regarding the war on drugs, there was a study here in Australia 30 years ago that estimated that for every $1 that the government spent fighting the drugs, it actually made the drug industrial complex $4.
Really glad to see a discussion around chapter 2 "noble cause" though in many cases that seems to be an effort to justify actions the officers know to be corrupt. We see a number of instances in the UK system where police officers will keep other agencies out of events because the meeting would create a record that might influence the CPS to say prosecution is not in the public interest or might serve as strong defense mitigation. More concerning are the instances when officers create complainants and deliberately cause harm to victims in order to manufacture an aggravating factor. Despite these blatantly corrupt practices I think the most common form of corruption results from honest mistakes, but the system from officers on the ground, their sergeants and inspectors take the attitude that it's them vs the person who identified the error and so it moves into corrupt practice of concealing a genuine error. Then that conduct and attitude becomes entrenched.
I have very low expectations it comes to police, local council, politicians, other authorities. Corrupt, rotten bunch all of 'em. If you are just a normal fella, you are alone.
I like how the "redacted" terms are simply reversed, and anybody can unredact them by reversing the audio inside a DAW. Great protection of privacy there.
Anyone know of someone like Neil Woods in Queensland Australia? On the receiving end of unchecked corruption including within the "anti-corruption" part of the police force
Perhaps you should consider looking for a solicitor firm that has experience in bringing “malfeasance in public office” cases against police departments in your state. They will likely be best placed to tell you what your avenues are on the basis of your case.
Alastair Morgan deserves an enormous amount of credit for his work since the brutal murder of his brother. Shining a light into the dark depths of police and raising awareness. Thank you Sir
Yip, but just a shame that it's taken 30 years to get this far. It highlights just how corrupt our "criminal" justice system is. When those employed to uphold it disregard it with such arrogance & impunity.
"I know that I upset a lot of police officers when I talk about police corruption."
Anyone who doesn't want police corruption to be talked about should not be trusted to do police work.
How can you investigate crime responsibly if you can't even handle it being mentioned?
A trustworthy police officer who wants to provide safety to the community would want to see corruption exposed and dealt with like any other crime because it's part of what they're paid to do and especially because refusing to deal with criminals in the police makes the whole police service look untrustworthy and criminal.
or maybe, just maybe people who dedicate their life to service in a world that does not values them anymore, these people get upset when people talk about an issue that does not directly affect them but then makes their job even harder because the trust of the people is lost.
@@QuixoticCowboyif police corruption is rampant, then they shouldnt take it personally, even if theyre not corrupt themselves or if it makes their job harder.
@@QuixoticCowboy Extraordinary power demands extraordinary scrutiny and accountability. If an officer doesn't like that then there are plenty of other jobs they could be doing.
Serpico.
@@QuixoticCowboy maybe, just maybe, if police were actually TRUSTWORTHY then they wouldn't have to be worried or upset about us not trusting them?
If a cop wants me to trust and/or value them, then it's pretty simple for them to gain that - they just have to arrest a colleague. That arrest doesn't even need to lead to a conviction, I just want to see them at least making an attempt at doing their job properly instead of claiming that every member of the police they know is a "good apple"
Watching many of these insider views on crime, smuggling etc. it's amazing to consider how pretty much everyone who was ever involved with organized crime, be it a part of it or fighting against it, comes to the same conclusion: that the war on drugs is lost and that prohibition causes way more harm than good. It truly says something when so many people from so many different backgrounds and walks of life come to the same conclusion, yet nothing is done about it.
Speaking from the inside.
It is not so much that nothing is done it is more "what can we do instead that will actually show an improvement with less harm."
See many places have tried dergulating narcotics and its gone bad. And I mean really bad. Where I live we have now had 3 major waves of deaths from deregulated narcotics.
So now where previously you didnt see this stuff or it was higher quality and safer, because there is less oversight on both sides toxic stuff is getting through.
Even with free testing at festivals and events. Death after death for months on end even with publicized warnings. Didnt stop till it was made illegal again.
A second example of deregulation not working is tobacco. In many parts of the world it is actually the number 1 drug traded on the black market. Yet it is legal to buy.
Lastly since the deregulation the health system has seen a disproportionate amount of young people struggle with chemical dependands and the ruinous impact it has on everyone around them.
This impact is social, mental, physical and economic on a national scale.
The problem is an extreme one as we don't want to take crazy solutions yet anything less will be ineffective and likely counterproductive. Proponents of the most accepting doctrines will have you believe that the government could - despite being incapable of maintaining roads no matter how much money you pour into it - outcompete established international criminal enterprises. Obviously, this is a bad idea fit only for very few countries, but we must contrast this with the equally awful (unfortunately true) idea that the opposite solution - the crackdown, complete with the military, militias, and civilian vigilantes - results in a hopefully short period of unacceptably high levels of violence and complete forfeiture of rights. Again, would only work in certain countries, as it has in the past.
We should not say the war is lost, as we never fought it. We sent in tiny numbers of crime specialists to deal with a much larger issue than their departments were ever designed for, and then we act surprised when their best efforts come up short. In reality, if we wanted to crush the problem, we could do so easily with the proper expenditures of "blood and treasure" - horrible and likely excessive use of military might at home and abroad. simple as that. WE, the voters, are the problem. We would never vote for either policy, so the issue will simply persist forever.
@@boldCactuslad pretty much this. So like I said above we ride the middle ground of doing nothing. Throwing the occasional "Look we did this" to the voters but actually all it is is as you so exquisitely put it. Wasting Blood and Treasure.
Too much profit too be made on all sides(esp C.I.A)...also jobs.
Uruguay is the first and only country to have the state control cannabis, making it completely legal. Citizens can grow up to six plants at home. The state has their own dispensaries, and private people also. The problem is that because its surrounded by cocaine producing countries, Montevideo's port's home o large amounts of cocaine base entering the country, which is then turned into powder cocaine. This is illegal, and cocaine use has more than quadrupled in the last 15 years or so. There seems to be something about illegal drugs that makes people want to consume more. Legalization's the only way out of this horrible mess.
I was a police officer in a large county force in England. We allowed the crime reporter of the local paper into the nick at any time. Any room he was stopped from entering had to be explained to him. He could take it to the super. It was banned by the government. The police in England/Wales are forbidden by law to say how badly their force is resourced, or problems with lack of manpower. For a time, we had a recovering drug/alcohol addict in the cell block available to any inmate who wanted to talk about addiction or similar. That was stopped, yet he was a fabulous check on any abuse of power. (He was a great bloke as well.). We had lay visitors to the nicks, cells and CCTV control rooms. I think these are still allowed but not encouraged. I stand to be corrected. The police are banned from speaking to the press. All these laws and regs by the government and Home Office have the result of separating the police from checks and controls. The police should, must, be open and transparent. We should have lay persons going through the nick without a schedule. That's not what the government want because it will show just how poorly the various forces are resourced. They need more staff, especially more supervisors to be responsible for PCs and sergeants. I was in the police from the middle 70s. I've written a couple of Kindle books about corruption in the 70s and 80s - Both Sides of the Force et sec. I was in Crossing the Line of Duty (possibly still available on BBC iPlayer) where police corruption was exposed. The police changed fundamentally in the middle 80s, with higher pay and reasonable conditions of employment being the big improvements. The tory government of Cameron and May destroyed any hope of a professional force by continually attacking it. Moral dropped much faster than pay. The BBC series I was in had a detective constable confess to taking bribes. He explained the process of corrupting him. Simple, easy steps, and soon he was trapped. There is no way corruption can be eradicated from any largish organisation. I've been involved in an enquiry into local government were a whole department was taking bribes, even, remarkably, a temp on maternity cover! Lack of effective supervision is what encourages corruption. Sorry to go on, but it's important to me. It's important to everyone come to that.
But the huge scale of payments to corrupt officers, their pensions (resigning under investigation after signing off sick with stress), the cover-ups, the inquiries, the inquiries into the failed inquiries & further investigations (How many inquiries were there into Stephen Lawrence case failures? Each one had a problem with even further corruption & wrong-doing by police officers. Daniel Morgan, Sheku Beyou, Shirley McKie, Jean Charles de Menezes, Emma Caldwell.....it's an exhaustive list). Police officers need to stand up to this nonsense & do their job. Complicity kills (quite literally). The lengths they will go to cover up crime & corruption (especially for promotions some are just not entitled to, whilst other exceptional officers get bypassed every time despite being highly qualified & great at the job). Most of it is political for personal or financial benefit & covers up political corruption. It's tax payers who pay their wages, not those who avoid paying it. Harassing & attempts to criminalise those who stand up to it, creating false narratives & using (& paying) criminal CHIS to do the dirty work off books - it's not on. This, is where the money, time & resources go. There's more than enough budget, resources, shared work (never see any cops on patrol here unless they pass by in cars), etc. Then ALL of the systems we now have - shared databases, Predpol, Cellebrite, Airwaves, etc. There's no excuse. Enough resources to cover up corruption & crime, just not to deal with it. Change starts from within, a little bit of spine, backbone, courage & the balls to see it through. If there;s more straight cops than bent ones... let's see it!
Hence the reason I left the police service where I live. Lost my pension and my character was dragged through the mud in public for speaking out about all the BS corruption I saw and knew about. And to rub salt into the wound, the union was as useless as tits on a bull. Funnily enough, after I left the service I went back to higher education majoring in Criminology and Criminal Justice and now work for the Ombudsman and Integrity Commission with a reputation of being a 'pitbull'
@@Tazza81 well done!!!!
@@Tazza81 Good on you. We need more people like you in the force & investigatory bodies. In Scotland, it's those same corrupt officers (political promotions).
I went to a very nice school that organises how people lives. No one is willing to believe how tightly scripted everything is. No one is willing to challenge how severe corruption is at a higher level in the UK.
My wife's Uncle was a gamekeeper. He caught a Poacher. The Poacher arrested him. It was an off-duty police officer. His licenced guns were confiscated. He was charged with threatening behaviour. Eventually the charges were dropped and the guns were returned. The Officer transferred to another force.
Did it come out in newspaper?
@@carloscontreras3633thousands of stories like this worldwide in countries where billion-dollar illegal animals trade operates. But unlike it, many dont have happy endings, the farmer gamekeeper or animal rescuer killed or injured or their family harassed.
see this a lot. so the person who,s command they transfer to knows their history, up to them to keep an eye on a potential problem.
I am living in Greece, most police officers are hunters.
Most officers are also far right believers. Many are members of far right organizations.
Many do secondary jobs to survive including guarding of night clubs and guarding of wealthy individuals.
All that is considered normal here and police officers don't want to discuss it as it is their right as they say to do whatever they want off duty.
Just like the church. Corrupt to the core.
A work colleague of mine had a boyfriend in London who owned a small hotel. Like many others, he employed undocumented migrants as casual labour. He paid monthly bribes to local CID police for many years. In the end, he set up security cameras and filmed the police collecting their monthly pay-offs over a three month period. Next time they came, he showed the film and audio to the police and told them copies were in the possession of his solicitors. He never saw the corrupt officers again.
wait so he was still illegally hiring undocumented workers to this day?
Bravo!!!! 😁👍
Wonder what the slave master was paying the migrants.
What a grubby story.
Overall, how much money did he save?
@@asumazilla after the bribes? I would imagine very little but he would have had loyal hard-working staff.
He's right about cops not believing another did wrong. A cop attempted to crash his car (his personal car) into mine by slamming his brakes on after doing other dangerous actions then started chasing me when i tried to escape some psycho (never legally identified himself and not on duty) the rest of the police force tried to defend him even claiming it was an unmarked car while I had video evidence of his assault, chase and attempted illegal stop.
I think it's more about being frightened of the consequences of grassing up a colleague rather than refusing to believe they had done something wrong. I guess most cops know the bad apples amongst them and are fully aware of the power they have.
Yeah it’s disgusting most are entitled insecure liars
@@davidspear9790 would a naming and shaming campaign againts officer engaged in misconduct help bring accountability?
@@jasonvoorhees6152 I doubt it. If you whistleblew from within the force you would be out within weeks, guaranteed. If you were a member of the public that reported a cop, you'd be on the cop's harassment list for ever!
So, upload it?
Neil Woods' book 'Drug Wars' is both a fascinating and terrifying insight into the links between drug barons and the police in the UK. He makes a very convincing case that the continued criminalisation of drugs is literally the driver of almost all organised crime in the UK. The only conclusion that one can come to after reading his book is that any politician who is against the decriminalisation of drugs, is almost certainly profiting in some way from the sale of those drugs.
Where I live in Australia we didn't have organised crime problems or ice/ meth. What we had was everyone could grow legally 10 marijuana plants. Which became 4 as hydro became a thing. Then zero. Now gangs/ bikies are a thing and so is organised crime.
I don't touch drugs except coffee and a rare drink. But damn I can see the change in my life. Let's make the least damaging one basically legal in personal use quantities again.
@@Badartist888 the only place you could grow plants was south Australia back then. Not know. Canberra is the only legal place definitely not 10. I bet you have a drug problem in your area just don't see it. It's called underworld for a reason. It only comes up when police put lots of pressure on and it turns the people paranoid. Then mistakes are made. It's a war on ppl not drugs as you witness. Yes police use the cars houses for revenue. That's why you have this system. More money in drugs then other commodity. Wealth from this makes politicians very rich.
@@Badartist888 Bruh, who do you think is behind the black market tobacco and human trafficking industries in Australia if not organized crime? Both have been huge markets for long.
Many politicians are against the decriminalization of drugs simply because they want to earn votes and the average citizens are too simplistic and gullible - and on some subjects, even brainwashed - to understand how enormously more damaging prohibition is than decriminalization.
So those politicians will not tell people something that would lose them votes instead of earning. Prohibition gives us the illusion that we are doing "something" against the drug problem, and that's what we want, it allows us to think that we have a clean consciense and are good people fighting evil, so that closes the subject, it's useless to try to reason with them on a realistic basis.
Go figure, even after prohibition on alcohol showed exceedingly clearly what a loser prohibition is, there are still plenty of groups - and probably some politicians - who claim it would be better to make alcohol illegal again.
legalisation of drugs will spell the end of any society. That's why Britain forced China to buy their opium. That's why states in the US with lax drug legislation face massive addiction and homelessness issues.
Anyone advocating for the decriminalisation of drugs is just an idiot.
It is rare to have such an honest accounting of the current state of law enforcement as we experience it today. You must be brave to wear the badge but infinitely braver to wear the badge and talk about Police corruption in such a matter of fact way. Policing is a difficult job made even tougher when most civilians, even those related or married to Officers have a hard time understanding the culture and the challenges the job imposes on its practitioners. He is correct when he says that while most major police agencies investigate police corruption, these investigations are many times at odds with the image of trust and transparency these agencies work extremely hard to promote and cultivate. A battle that will be waged for eternity it seems. Excellent reporting, thank you!
Just keep you bloody oath. If you can’t get out and stay out.
@@Liverpoolboy01
A _genuinely_ independent oversight with strong enforcement powers would help.
It's an ancient problem, the Romans had it too -- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
If you appreciate this kind of content I would highly recommend that you look up John Wedger here on youtube.
@@Liverpoolboy01 easily said, but if you're offered five grand extra a month to "just" pass on information and threatened with (for example) your daughter being raped if you don't.....well, what ya going to do?
Blah, blah... that's quite a fairytale you've told....now back to the REAL world 😂😂
Several years ago my department- a US sheriff's office- had to fire several jailers after they were found smuggling contraband to inmates. Their motivation? Misplaced loyalty- The jailers and inmates were usually childhood friends and most of the jailers were real young getting hired at the minimum age of 18. Our department partially remedied the situation by raising the hiring age to 21 although it has been lowered back to 18. A department culture against corruption is definitely key. I been told multiple times by older officers don't cover for other's screw ups, to be mindful of my behavior, and hearing tear downs of other questionable departments and officers.
@Jesse Anderson and how can you demand loyalty to a justice system that is locking up people for years for small amounts of marijuana
That's not REAL corruption tho, no victim.
It's just helping people illegally, that are probably in jail due to some level of corruption.
@@guylloyd200 You say that but you don't know the contraband how it was used or the people actually deserved to go to prison.
The situation in the UK with His Majesty’s Prison Service is really not that much better. I think there was a minutes with episode with a lad who smuggled in contraband for a few months and as he said he was never trained on how to deal with situations like that, nor was he provided any mental health supports for the stuff he saw on his wing. I feel like very few countries do incarceration correctly, for example the Nordic countries seem to have a great record for it.
Drugs is a bigger business in jail than on the outside
At this point imo the police trying to maintain public confidence by refusing to investigate, address or publicly acknowledge corruption/racism has damaged public confidence in the police more than anything else they could have done in that situation
Imagine if the aviation industry worked this way. Cover up crashes, ignore the causes, deny involvement or responsibility, etc. Imagine how dangerous flying would be!
Nonsense
People don't trust them because they don't seem to even try and solve major crimes, instead policing Twitter and people's speech
The coverups for fear of being called racists or islamaphobes also doesn't help public trust
@@Aviator27J It 'helps' that it's nearly impossible to cover up a big crash...
What racism? Ethnic profiling is common sense, considering it's non-White ethnicities who commit the vast majority of the crime. And I honestly don't know of any cases where there was racial prejudice.
Insightful indeed.
The courts would make for a LOT of documentary content regarding corruption and malpractice.
Most court cases in the world do not use any recording devices in the courtroom other than the typist writing everything said
Some courts have introduced cameras
But ultimately
If a judge makes a decision it will not be changed at the time. You have to appeal
The judge is like a ref
If you get a penalty in hockey. No matter how much you plead your case. He will not change his mind
There should be Assistant judges are required in every court case. 2 judges must agree or the case charges are stayed for one year. Gives time for police to find more evidence. And a free pass to the person being charged if no new evidence is found. Must be evidence. Not circumstantial evidence
If it's family or civil if two judges can't agree. It should be sent back to mediation or arbitration
My uncle witnessed a murder in the 70's and had to be put in to witness protection. He was from Ireland and for 15 years (until the murderer had died basically) everyone in the family thought he had died. Which was worse because he had had a massive argument with my grandad about a week before the murder. They reconciled before my grandad died but my grandmother died not knowing he was still alive.
OTT
This is truly terrifying. The fact that corruption is so rampant within the police up to the highest level. Even our witness protection schemes has corruption within it is deeply worrying.
As said in the video the witness protection scheme is our last line of defense and now we learn even that isnt safe. Scary stuff.
Honestly, I have a friend who is a sheriff (truly a good guy) and I’ve known some good police officers, but I’ve also inadvertently had to deal with corrupt officers as well. I have become more and more disheartened over the years. I used to be so young and naïve. Now in my mid 30s, I’ve Seen and heard of too much that I actually feel quite scared of officers altogether.. Sometimes terrified
Same here in central texas
They are just used as batons serving a corporate conglomerate. Policy keepers.... Got nothing to do with protecting people... Maybe it did once.
Your instincts are correct to fear these gangsters with badges and guns!
American cops are on a whole other level. Most British cops don't even have guns and with a population of 70 million, the UK has an average of 2 civilians killed by cops a year. An unarmed person dying during a violent arrest happens every few years and is usually massive news and there are investigations and so forth. Most European nations are the same. Cops in German (population 80 million) killed one guy in 2021.
Cops in the USA shoot dead over 1200 civilians every single year. The numbers are so high they don't even release official figures and journalists have had to piece them together. The USA also locks up a higher percentage of its citizens than any nation in history. With 4% of the global population, they have 20% of all prisoners on earth.
Yet, Americans seem oblivious to these statistics and have no idea their police behaviour is way beyond the norm.
They can screw youe life. We have give too much power to the police
Excellent content from this channel; very high quality and interesting, without pandering to algorithms. Keep up the great work.
When u use words like great work u show who u are for those who know what that means eh
I’m a firm believer that any law enforcement official convicted of abusing their authority or position of power should be given the maximum sentence.
You are 100% correct. Automatic max sentences.
Yeah but they wont do that 😂
They are struggling to recruit as it is
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@@paul66990 I would love to be an officer, but I won’t pass a background check because of a mistake I made when I was a lot younger.
@@paul66990 they only look at it by numbers, surface level thinking. The amount thats there is not effectice 95% plus crimes not solved, focus on wokeness and enforcing feelings, qualified immunity so not really accountable as corruption. Why would they work hard no real consequence, but goodness me when their ego hits they’ll try everything.
Corruption is cancer on society. Nothing is more corrosive.
Not corruption.
The police
The government.
The corporations. No matter where, no matter what.
These are the biggest gangs the earth has ever known. They have built themselves a status quo, woven a moral fabric to protect themselves, and brainwashed all of us to think upholding these values will be beneficial to us.
That is bullshit. Burn it all down. Abolish the police, destroy the economy, annihillate the global heat machine and bring peace back to the oppressed peoples of the world.
ACAB ACAB ACAB NO MATTER WHAT. NEVER FORGET 2020
Corruption is just the byproduct of capitalism
@@ColtTheWolf In a sense yes, corruption is everywhere, but then capitalism (especially its unregulated forms) incentivizes weak morals through prioritizing profit and self-gain, which benefits from some sort of corruption.
@@option7No, Corruption is the sociapathic actions of corrupt sociapathic people! It has occurred in communist societies many times also!
@@derickjude7188 yes and sociopaths are rewarded in every single power structure (and everywhere is capitalist, sorry)
Back in the 80s it was a well known fact that certain stations where beyond corrupt Stoke Newington was an open secret.
Stoke Newington Police were extremely diligent in ensuring that their station was a shining beacon of corruption, malpractice, violence, racism, and misogyny...
They ended up sacking over a hundred officers.
Been going since the 70s.
It's still a shock when you see how corrupt they are, I'd never had anything to do with the thugs until 4 years ago straight away I knew I was dealing with criminals and I was right
Neil Woods has a fantastic book about his experience as an undercover police officer. Good Cop, Bad War. Highly recommend reading it. As well as his book on the Drugs War as a whole. Both excellent and very interesting.
Neil woods is one of the most corrupt officers the MET has seen he was DIShonourably discharged / told to leave
I had a copper pull me out of work as a service station attendant and take me to a small room at the police station.
He said he could pin me as a drug dealer because of the nature of my job where I came into contact with lots of people and cash changing hands.
He wanted me to become a police informer in a small town, giving me instructions on who he wanted information on.
When I laughed at him saying he must be joking he became violent and threatening physical harm .
I'm sure he thought he was in a Hollywood movie and he was the star of that movie..
Not long after my "Interview" with him this Police Sargent he was got caught bashing a school cleaner born with Down Syndrome that would never hurt a fly
And was given the sack from the police force.
All police are Corrupt in my view and the public are the enemy in their eyes.
This is superb thought provoking, excellent, content, keep up the good work. More from Neil Woods please
I've met Neil and can confirm he is as lovely as he seems in this video! End the war on drugs!
I know someone (a friend of a friend) who was a very low level dealer. When arrested the police added weight to ensure he had prison time. It was at that moment that I only spoke to the police via lawyers.
Smart decision, but would that have helped your friend?
Bollocks your boy got caught end of your boy was a very small cog in an extremely large wheel and pretended to you who he took advantage of he was big time when in reality he was a simple flee
How strange there are lots of cases where the 1lb of weed has shrunk to a few grams, by the time the case had got to court.
Yup happened to me with an Oz of weed turned into 35g in single bags and it was only found because I was knickers for a street fight 😒 never been a dealer and only have a few minor convictions for fighting when I was younger. Instead of a simple fine I got 12 months probation. Also I have had a copper make a 8th of coke disappear down the loo whilst getting arrested for an unrelated matter and had a motorcycle copper take my car keys from me for 24 hours when I got pulled one night whilst pissed and off my face 😭
Everyone lies and criminals lie all the time about this stuff. They lie and betray their "friends", thats why they are criminals. Its always funny when people choose to believe someone who makes a living manipulating, stealing, lying ...etc. We know have countless situations with bodycam were sexual harrassment is published to have happened only to examine the footage and there was absolutely none of that. Every criminal when caught will lie if that helps his case or helps his standing with his non criminal friends.
I used to work for a Professor of History, Journalist, and Author. His father was a Police Sergeant until he retired in the 1930s. He said his father always refused to be promoted above Sergeant because, as his father explained, that meant he would have to become corrupt.
I was in my twenties when I realised the Police were corrupt - and nothing has changed in all the years since.
My uncle was a dealer during the 90s and I remember him telling me the police gave him a radio so he could listen if he was about to be raided
It was like that in the 90s they got hols of the transmitter radios for stealing cars and getting away in time basically dodging them road by road. Pretty handy if you ask me lo
@@michaelmummery5302 resourcefull of them lol😂😂
Just as the USA police do now, back then UK police used unencypted radion networks and a scanner could pick up their whole transmission. Was a very useful tool for crooks.
@firestarter1888 They don't use the regular channels when planning a raid tho..
Police corruption is rife...my mind takes me back to 50 years go...I was walking home from a night out...I was with a small group of friends and the police rocked up asking us for details of address name etc which I gave to the officer who asked...their were two coppers involved in this stop and asking/fishing for information. As said, I gave the first officer my details, than...the other copper asked me to provide the same details to him. I refused, stating that I had already provided this information to his colleague. He was really miffed that I wouldn't give my details again.
What happened then was this copper who was miffed, bundled me into a van, drove half a mile where there was a dark quiet piece of waste ground where he got me out of his vehicle and started to push me violently in the chest in an attempt to get me to retaliate...the copper who initially got my details was visibly uncomfortable with his colleagues actions (but said nothing) as this other thug kept pushing me...I did not retaliate to his aggression though I dearly wanted to and eventually they drove off. The very next thing I did was walk to the police station (about two miles) and complain about this officers behaviour towards me by giving a statement. I was told, that If I wanted I could get this copper fired, at the time I was 17 and said no I didn't want him fired (though if it happened today I would)....about a year later this idiotic tyrannical bully left the police.
This was 50 years ago and still we see evidence of corrupt coppers with their complete disdain for their own policies regarding the general public
Why wouldn't you want him fired?
Thank you for that work and your courage.
Drugs usage is a health issue.
Legalisation and regulation.
Keeping inequalities is corrupting.
So many people die because of current drug policy, it's frightening. Even if people have little compassion for users (as if seeking escapism by other means than alcohol should equal death sentence) many innocent,uninvolved people fall victim to drug war and cartel wars. How many more need to die ? :(
@@margodphd I agree they definitely don't have people's best interests at heart the war on drugs has failed,it's just causing deaths
Yes, it’s almost always the low level users they target. Granted some of them will be shifting small amounts of drugs to cover their habits but you rarely hear of any of the bigger dealers being caught or jailed.
The likes of the dealer/user this ex officer pressed into adulterating an oz into a kg by mixing it into around 35 times as much powder would probably not have committed the burglaries either if they didn’t have a habit.
Instead of criminalising him they could have limited the police, court and incarceration costs by getting him rehab help.
@@murph8411 They use kids now, kids get caught, slapped on the writst but never snitch then replaced. They're called bics becuase they're dispensable
@@murph8411 prison costs are going down, it's only £225/day currently, but rehab is much more expensive at up to £700/day & even then only works if the recipient wants it _and_ is ready.
I have to say this police officer is the most level headed honest and trustworthy....we need more like him in the thin blue line.
Whoever made this series is an absolute genius
Agreed
Wonderful video thank you all for making this and finding these fellas who speak up
I have personally been targeted by police corruption, to the extent of a defendant being protected, even after a signed statement admitting guilt, and subsequently vanishing. Along with an officer involved also disappearing. A team of detectives combing a large area of coast to obtain an exhumation order. (That was carried out after a two-year period following burial)
All to put me off the trail.
The coroner and C.P.S were also involved. Files had been shredded and lack of evidence.
I have been trying to come to terms with it since 2007, but for me there will never be resolve.
Proof?
@@esmeecampbell7396 🐖
Dude, I friggin LOVE this guy and his stories. They’re not just unreal and terrifying and the danger involved. But, you can also tell he’s a very intelligent man and he must have been incredibly savvy in order to navigate this world and come out the other side with his head on straight and just generally in tact. I really hope they do more interviews with woody in the future
I pray this man gets justice for his brother
My friends dad was a landlord and was quite well known in the local area for taking up cases against corrupt officers. his brother was a landlord and rented his house out to a group of people. did a background check and everything seemed legit so they were allowed to stay. the people then rented the place out to drug dealers who grew weed. there was a raid and everyone involved was arrested, including my friends dad, who knew nothing of it. he got eight years because apparently he should have know about the presence of a weed factory in one of his brother’s ten houses.
if you can't account for all your properties, maybe you shouldn't own that many
@@localkaufyou sound like a bent copper making a passive aggressive comment to someone who was targeted for "snitching" about bent cops - go away. To speedsongs your dad was a good man who was obviously targeted thank you for sharing his story
@@xmmx9909 nah I just don't like landlords. They leach off of the hard work of other people. And when something goes wrong, it's never their fault, it's always the lousy tenants.
@@localkauf In that case I apologize. I completely agree with you and also hate landlords, grew up as a child in rented places. But I hate bent cops more than landlords. Have had bad experiences with bent cops in 3 different countries. There are good ones but very few.
One of insider’s best videos so far
It still blows me away how they are so comfortable talking about this.
I don't think comfort has anything to do with it. They feel the obligation because of what they've experienced in their lives due to police corruption. In a world where most people use social media for their own personal gain, at least there are those brave enough to use it in order to call out corruption regardless of how uncomfortable it might make them or those who want to tell themselves it doesn't exist or affect anything around them.
It is free speech. It's amazing how our daily programming makes us feel this is unusual. Its not.
@@fourstarfuel9702 I want referring to free speech...
@@liquidoxygenbar7671 ok. Certainly seemed like you were.
@@fourstarfuel9702 Not sure how you inferred that, I was ferrying to the subject matter.
A drug dealer I know got got raided and the police confiscated £40k in said raid but when entered into evidence it had miraculously become £20k. They also confiscated 4 Rolex watches and an amount of gold jewellery but only 1 watch made it into evidence and only half the gold.
These coppers don't do too badly!
Wow, omg. They got 20k so easy. Image a couple of those a week. I dont trust the police like I used to. Here in the US, is worse. Much more corrupted.
I knew someone who got caught with about 8 ounces of a peculiarity striated and distinct Moroccan hash. This was mid 1980s and in the sleepy Gloucestershire town we are talking about, dealing hash, especially 8 ounces, would probably have resulted in a custodial sentence back then.
When he went to court he was only charged with possession of half an ounce. Strangely, mysteriously, the distinctive Moroccan hash appeared on the streets again for a few weeks after his day in court. (He was not imprisoned) It was not him selling it either.
Police corruption or any public servant corruption should be considered as an murderer of rule of law and must be terminated rather than suspended.
Yes. You should have a big red flag that says, "this person isn't trustworthy."
4% pf people are falsely convicted in prisons...you cant undo capital punishment
I just watched the Line of Duty series when I came across this interview! This interview is very timely and helps me understands the context behind the series.
Yeah, I had no idea that Dot being groomed from a young age to join the police as a sleeper agent was something that actually happens.
Being underpaid + Power tripping : Perfect mix
Cheers from San Diego California 🇺🇸
That sounds wonderful even if I had the balls and general masculinity I'd make a terrible police officer.
Get a different job 🥴
I think Kyra was talking more about the bigger picture than there personal experience.
@@Liverpoolboy01 you are really unable to process an honest message, gl in your life
This clip should be on prime time news every day for a year. Before they render themselves totally invalid.
I know this case very well...The Catford/Lewisham constabulary where absolutely outrageous back then...Probably still now
Thats the most dangerous thing in sociaty,its having corrupt Police.
Very Scary.
Neil Woods book is fantastic and well worth the read, an absolute eyeopener on drug networks, addicts and police policy.
In the UK they are taught to be friendly as then people are more likely to give up information. You have to watch out for that. A stranger wouldn't ask for your name so if they do then it is malicious. After all why would someone on the street want to know your name if they will never see you again?
tbh tho the police in the Uk are lovely, and I'm not doing anything insidious enough to warrant the need for my name or information, so I'd much rather that they come across as friendly and helpful, even if that makes me disclose more freely than with a colder bloke.
@@ilikechineseteaespeciallyj7262 Someone I know was put under false arrest and groped for several minutes by UK officers after calling when a group attempted assaulting her. They had nothing on her and let her go after. Those pigs are not "Lovely".
@@ilikechineseteaespeciallyj7262they’re really not
I’ve read Neil Wood’s books & unfortunately spent too many years on the opposite side of this drug “war”, so have a little understanding of the subject. His knowledge & nads of steel get my full respect. I cudnt think of a better person to investigate corruption. The 2 fellas voiced same conclusion I came to 30 years ago over legalising drugs. Did ppl learn nothing from American prohibition?!
The war on drugs is a direct result of the end of prohibition. They had an agency of bully boys, and nothing to do with them, so they tweaked the law to create new targets.
Or from Portugal's success against hard drugs with decriminalisation
Drugs were actually made illegal in the USA not long after prohibition was lifted. I've heard it suggested that it was actually because the huge underworld created by prohibition and the many "legitimate" people (including those in power) who made huge sums from it, needed a new area to move into. Alcohol was just too easy to make for prohibiting it to fully allow its sale to be centralised by organised crime groups. Drugs on the other hand...
@@PonderingStudent The market for drugs was largely regulated as pharmaceutical products at that point. Tinctures of cannabis were prescribed for as many problems then, as now, liquid morphine and cocaine were also medical products, as were amphetamines. And later uppers and psychedelics were introduced by big pharma, pretty much all of them started out as prescribed products. There was some trafficking in low quality marijuana among the Mexicans, and there was an opiate problem in some communities, the jazz community as an example, but there weren't the same customers as there were during prohibition so it wasn't simply a matter of just changing what you sold, making and running moonshine is a very different business to sourcing and distribution of drugs, particularly back then it was two entirely different worlds and no internet to point your way into new business niches.
Once all the drugs were legislated to be illegal, a lot of them were then also restricted for medical use, and that's the point at which criminals took over, eventually giving way to organised crime and gangs. LCN took a dim view of drugs early on, and didn't become key players in that trade until much much later.
From what I've been able to ascertain, the egg came first in this instance. That is, legislation was passed so that the newly formed agency which they were pleased with, could expand in scope, rather than being shut down when prohibition was reversed. Rather than drugs becoming such a problem in society that an agency was mobilised against them. That didn't really happen until the sixties when LSD got out of the Sandoz labs and into mainstream circulation. Then in the eighties with cocaine and much much more. Even the current scourge of America, meth, was a lab product invented in the late nineteenth century. Which was used by several governments, especially during wartime. Just like Oxycontin and the wave of opiates in recent history, it's mostly been driven by big pharma profiting from the war on drugs, more than anything else. You can't patent a plant, and they want you using their products, not an alternative that puts no cash in their pockets.
Which is also why despite the rise of antibiotic resistance, it's taken so long for anyone to start looking into bacteriophages. The Soviets have been maintaining phage banks for decades, and western doctors are well aware of the efficacy, but medicine is about money, not curing the most people.
Until that changes, the war on drugs will continue, and it will do nothing but bring misery to millions and deprive countries of generation after generation, sat in prison for possession or sale of plant by-products.
@@PonderingStudent the Harrison Narcotics Act was 1914
Big respect to the former enforcer for the honesty! 🤜🏿🤛
Money is everything even justice has a price.
This is the issue with the police in general - if you give a monopoly on violence to a specific group of society who are only accountable to themselves then obviously they will abuse it. We really need to start questioning the role of the police in modern society and who exactly they exist to protect
The rich. They protect the rich and maintain order in the sheep herds. Individual sheep don't matter as long as you can shear the majority of them.
@@jmax8692 In what way is it ignorant?
I advise you to go to countries without a regular police force to leave your spoiled view of the world behind. Go to Nigeria, Kongo, Mexico (regular police is in fear of cartel retribution)...etc You really have NO idea how good of a system it is to have a police force like we have in western societies and we are destroying them by making them weaker by the year. The problem is our bias. We see the mistakes and corruption police does under a microscope but ignore the brutal consequence if a police isnt the regulating body. Just look up how much pain albanian mafia is able to cause in the world with trafficing women as sex slaves because Interpol is a joke and police often cant do anything despite knowing full well of the criminal enterprises that are much much more harmful to society. You will never get a perfect system but our police forces with high emphasis of internal affairs anti corruption officers is the best thing by far!!!
Just to note that Police in the UK are accountable to the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) and are scrutinised intensely on their use of force. But if you mean the US, then yes, Police across that nation are organised more independently and aren't generally as accountable as a result
Fine then, let's make Robocop happen. A Robot cannot be corrupted (except if it was hacked or hijacked), They cannot fear death, they cannot fear for their family's safety since they didn't exist, They will be just and they probably will not be persuaded by wealth. Just don't expect kind treatment from them because they probably won't care if you are a man or a woman.
Honestly i don't even know anymore who should be the police of the modern time if Robot police officer is really a thing. On one hand human can have human feelings so they can treat other humans better but a robot is just a program, they can't corrupt but they also don't have the humanity inside them. These kind of questions is always great for those Sci-fi dystopian story though.
I've seen this guy talk on a few different issues within the larger law enforcement/crimminal(of all types) world and I have to say that I couldn't agree more with most of his stances and arguments.
He speaks on uk. From experience.
2:20, in Sweden, where I live, we're having increasing problems with serious organised crime (we now have a handful of clan-based criminal networks, there's shootings and explosive detonations pretty much every week and people are afraid to go out at night), and interestingly enough, since we didn't use to have these problems, literally everyone's home address is a matter of public record, as is everyone's income, how much their house or apartment was bought for, and which car registration plates they're listed as owners of. So. Yeah.
What is the point of such a system?
@@carloscontreras3633
"Finally, another important right in any free society is the liberty to contribute to the Public Good. But for this to happen, it must be possible to make the state of affairs in society known to one and all, and everyone must be free to express their thoughts about it. Where this is lacking, liberty is not worth its name. Issues of war and the like, which foreign adversaries and attackers may abuse, will need to stay secret for a time, but only for the sake of enemies. Civilian issues and questions of internal wellbeing should in much lesser degree be hidden from the eyes of the citizens. Otherwise, it could easily happen that only foreign adversaries with destructive goals have access to all secrets through spies and bribes, while the people themselves, who should hold influence, are left unknowing about most things. If, on the other hand, everything is publicly available information, the people can at least discover what is causing prosperity or damage, and call everyone's attention to it, provided that there is freedom of the press. Then, the country can always be led by truth and love for the fatherland, which is that basis of the wellbeing of all."
- Peter Forsskål, "De libertate civili" (1759) §. 21
Swedish immigration policy invited in the animals
The war on drugs was never meant to be won.
Good that your mate Steve, was willing to kick up a fuss when he came across the corruption
This is why shows like Between The Lines and Line Of Duty do so well.
Incredible journalism
Was NOT expecting my man Neil Woods to grace this video!
This was incredibly insightful and *_extremely_* 😨😨
remember kids, don't tell the police anything (except "am I required to do x?", "am I free to go?", "where's my lawyer" and "I'm not answering without consulting my attorney"), tell the paramedics everything, they ain't snitching.
Just... don't keep arguing with an aggressive cop, don't fight it in the streets, fight it in court, unless you happen to have a deathwish, oh and record everything you can if your country allows it
Dealing with overbearing depression, anxiety when going outside. I am trying to bury the scary feeling I have now, Rape crime is the one that many police officers hide. 3 years later, and I am depressed, non-verbal and have no one to turn to.
I hope you can start to heal eventually, I'm very sorry that happened to you. I know it doesn't feel like it and believe me I know it's far from easy, but things really can get better and you have so much life still to live. Good luck in your recovery and finding a way to talk to a therapist about this, I'm rooting for you I really am. You are so much more than your pain ❤
Hope you'll be better soon, sis. God is always there for us.
Ally, Australia 🌏🦘🇦🇺🙋🏼♀️🤗
It's actually amazing how accurate Line Of Duty was in representing police corruption, very similar to what this guy was saying.
Respect to the officers speaking out. Unfortunately I know for a fact this goes on,we need to campaign for drugs to be seen as a public health issue
Wow! You've just answered and clarified so many of my questions. 🙏🏽💪🏽💪🏽
Ive taken a civil suite out against a Greater Manchester Police detective, the systems broke, False arrest, theft of my equipment. unbelievable
Absolutely spot on about decriminalising drugs and putting the supply on the responsibility on the state. It would take so much out of the pockets of criminals. If the money is ut back in to healthcare and education, it will help adicts make more informed choices in the beginning and help them recover should they become addicted. Makes perfect sense to me.
Are you for real. Politicians who are totally corrupt are rubbing shoulders with wealthy criminals.
@@derickjude7188 I'm for real. I don't see what you're driving at. Are you saying it's not going to happen because politicians are bennefitting too much right now from the illegal drugs trade? If they take away the revenue sources from wealthy criminals then the politicians lose out too? (So they're not going to do it?).
You’re the man Ali, keep fighting the good fight
Witness protection being corrupt is crazy.
“Uk police are the best at solving murders”
Jack the Ripper: hold my beer
It bothered me all the way through this video that the timestamp in the “VHS” style cutaways used semi colons rather than colons.
Great video and two great guests who are legends in their own right. As for drugs, take it out of the hands of the cartels and treat drug problems as what they are: public health problems. If you leave the market to these vicious gangsters and murderers, what can we expect to happen?
Tax the dealers at 99%, it will no longer be worth their time.
I looked it up and the Morgan lawsuit was settled via mediation for an undisclosed but "significant six-figure sum". I can't imagine this is in any way satisfying to Alastair and his family except in so much as to end the matter. I wish them all the best; they are incredible, strong people with more character than I can even imagine.
This is a dark, depressing look into the realities of policing. I appreciate the view, and the interviews were great, but this is so sad.
I have been stalked for 15 years/ we were driven out of our home by harassment and vandalism- I could go on and on- I’d love to speak with Neil about this.
@@freddieallen1172 thank u xxxxx
We really need him to check out West Mercia Constabulary. They used to turn up for my neighbour but his phone would always ring 5 minutes before they arrived and then he'd be gone like a shot!! We got threatened by one of their seargents to keep quiet and stop reporting him.
You've also got to take into account the fact that the Met are also the force responsible for the financial centre of the UK (even though the 'Square Mile' is supposed to have its very own police force). There's eye watering amounts of money being made by organised crime and they aren't stashing it under the bed. Whilst the public are told to focus their attention on topics like 'county lines'. The very same people who are rubbing shoulders with politicians at Westminster members only clubs are facilitating the laundering of vast sums of money through financial institutions. Just like dodgy Russian oligarchs with enough cash could easily live hassle free in London if they greased the right wheels. Then those at the top of organised crime live without fear because they're ensuring the right beaks are being kept permanently wet. It's a massive industry that's infiltrated everything from the law and politics and everything in-between. Ask yourself why a government would want to transform it into a health rather than a legal problem when the 'right kind of people ' (according to them) are making very good money from the way the system is currently constituted? This country is as corrupt as any other once you scratch the surface a bit and disregard the facade of respectability those at the top try to project.
I have long held the British police in high esteem. Corruption of all kinds is rampant in the USA now, or so it seems to me!
American cops are often somewhat 'bent'. I have a lot of respect for anyone who is honest, especially police officers.
Corruption is a fact of human life, I figure.
I wish great luck to anyone struggling against it.
And drug money is a powerful force against honesty everywhere!
Best of luck to the UK!
That thing you call corruption in your case is official practice here in the US. The standard here is very loose in the sense that we'd regard anyone who can be talked into something without very substantial psychological pressure as being disposed to commit the crime.
It's a huge problem in conjunction with laws that aren't seen as inherently wrong by many (drug crimes). It means that the police can pick and choose who they want to imprison since there is a huge fraction of ppl who can be manipulated into doing illegal activities.
I'm in awe of these gentlemen.
He says that 99% of the money comes from the drug trade. I always assumed a large part was human trafficking as well....
There is a LOT of money that can be gained from human trafficking, but it's as hard to pull off as murder is. Drug distribution may pay less but it's a lot easier/safer to do for the organisation, so that's why 99% is the drug trade.
The first true crime podcast I listened to was about the Daniel Morgan case. It's shocking. The amount of "straight forward cases" that are unsolved is horrible
Both crime and corruption at all levels of law enforcement as well as the political establishment absolutely went through the roof in the United States during Prohibition. Why would anyone think drug prohibition would be any different?
That’s the best argument I’ve heard so far for legalization of drugs.
Unfortunately, in the places where it’s been attempted drug use just skyrockets and society is significantly degraded (see Portland Oregon, where they had to reinstate some criminality eventually).
I can't stand a corrupt cop. No better than the criminals.
Regarding the war on drugs, there was a study here in Australia 30 years ago that estimated that for every $1 that the government spent fighting the drugs, it actually made the drug industrial complex $4.
Very educational!!! Thanks!!!
This is amazing work, from everyone involved.
Neil Woods audiobook called 'Good Cop Bad War' is great. I think you can listen to it on here.
Really glad to see a discussion around chapter 2 "noble cause" though in many cases that seems to be an effort to justify actions the officers know to be corrupt. We see a number of instances in the UK system where police officers will keep other agencies out of events because the meeting would create a record that might influence the CPS to say prosecution is not in the public interest or might serve as strong defense mitigation. More concerning are the instances when officers create complainants and deliberately cause harm to victims in order to manufacture an aggravating factor.
Despite these blatantly corrupt practices I think the most common form of corruption results from honest mistakes, but the system from officers on the ground, their sergeants and inspectors take the attitude that it's them vs the person who identified the error and so it moves into corrupt practice of concealing a genuine error. Then that conduct and attitude becomes entrenched.
Absolutely fascinating.
It would seem that Infernal Affairs and The Departed are not so far fetched after all.
The most important video by this channel. Also came here from the guy at the end
Scary that this is what passes for justice with courts
Glad this copper made it out safe from dangerous undercover work.
I have very low expectations it comes to police, local council, politicians, other authorities. Corrupt, rotten bunch all of 'em. If you are just a normal fella, you are alone.
Lived in Nottingham in this era. Knew terrifying people peripherally. The police were as bent as a 3 bob note.
Justice for the victim and family
Can't help but think of the funny handshake brigade, when it comes to corruption.
The other checkerboard club? 😂 ⬛⬜⬛⬜⬛⬜⬛
Couldn’t do this doc in the US, not on current operators
wdym? There's hundreds of US corruption cases
Can't possibly think why............Oh, hang on. I understand now...
I like how the "redacted" terms are simply reversed, and anybody can unredact them by reversing the audio inside a DAW. Great protection of privacy there.
Anyone know of someone like Neil Woods in Queensland Australia? On the receiving end of unchecked corruption including within the "anti-corruption" part of the police force
Perhaps you should consider looking for a solicitor firm that has experience in bringing “malfeasance in public office” cases against police departments in your state. They will likely be best placed to tell you what your avenues are on the basis of your case.
Would like to say. Thank you two you both
No wonder why they don't want to legalise drugs