EBC Yellowstuff Pads SUCK - K20 Civic Track Car
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ก.ย. 2022
- This is an outtake from my most recent video where I swapped to PBS ProRace pads on the front, after these EBC yellowstuff pads proved to overheat fairly fast on the track. Just the usual waffle really, but may be interesting to someone out there who knows.
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They literally say on the website fast road use. Light track use. Youre just baiting the title to get views "They SUCK"
Not really, the description on the website is different now to what it was after a lot of people moaning, also note that I bought these pads a year before they even went into the car, and this is now an old video too.
What is considered light track use? I'm not a pro racing driver and wasn't pushing the car to the limit, and the car only weighs 1100kg with me in it? Is the light track use still fitting in this instance, if so, then they suck.
The title is my opinion having used the parts and after comparing them to the PBS pads, then yes, the title is accurate. Regards bating views, have you seen the viewcount LOL.
@@captainsvlog fair enough i only recently checked website lol, do you daily drive PBS?
@@sprung3008 no it's not a daily driver, though the PBS pads usable on a daily as long as your aware of the fact they need a bit of heat in them before they bite like a road pad would. Many people have used them in daily driven cars, Karlos has them in his FN2, he said they were fine 👌
They are phenomenal on Track and I haven’t even tried the blue stuff yet. I’m running the new compound on a very heavy Tesla model 3 performance dyno’d at 515bhp with braided lines.
You must put in dot 5.1 fluid in. I am running Mich CUP2 tyres, I was a racing driver in my younger years and these are probably one of the most powerful set of brakes I’ve used on a road car. They are too powerful for the Cup 2s. So, I am gunna try the Nangkang AR1’s
Set up is key 🔑 The brakes are Brembo 4 pot calipers on Brembo discs.
However, you do have to bed them in every couple of weeks
Only time I get a small amount of fade is after about 10 laps and I always get warnings that I am pushing too hard (meaning I am a potential risk for bumping others cars).
We are not comparing apples with apples here by the sounds of it. The compound of the yellow stuff pads I had are clearly not the same. I followed the bed in process to the letter, and they were not capable of more than a couple of laps in a car that weighs just 1040kg.
Since changing to the PBS Pro Race pads, I've had zero issues, and can do 30 mins non stop without any fade👌
Good info!
Are you running the new EBC Yellow Compound? Did you do the Fade 2 and Fade 3 bedding in procedure at the track? I just put these on my Audi S5 and they have been great on the street, but I have a track day coming up and wanted to see how they might perform.
No idea on "new" I found out later from EBC that they did have to change the compound due to some laws or summat, so I don't know exactly what type these were. Yes I was very meticulous with the bedding in process and they were great on road prior to track use.
They were still shit on the track, I've since put PBS pads in and they were amazing on track! No fade at all. However on the roads you can feel when cold they don't bite that well. Once heated a bit they are great.
The yellowstuff pads in contrast had excellent cold bite and were a joy to use just driving around the streets etc.
@@captainsvlog thanks. Appreciate the response.
They are phenomenal on Track and I haven’t even tried the blue stuff yet. I’m running the new compound on a very heavy Tesla model 3 performance dyno’d at 515bhp with braided lines.
You must put in dot 5.1 fluid in. I am running Mich CUP2 tyres, I was a racing driver in my younger years and these are probably one of the most powerful set of brakes I’ve used on a road car. They are too powerful for the Cup 2s. So, I am gunna try the Nangkang AR1’s
Set up is key 🔑 The brakes are Brembo 4 pot calipers on Brembo discs.
However, you do have to bed them in every couple of weeks
Only time I get a small amount of fade is after about 10 laps and I always get warnings that I am pushing too hard (meaning I am a potential risk for bumping others cars).
If a track has say for instance more right handers your front left pads will be doing slightly more work than the right. More left handers and the right side will do more work. Or could simply be an imbalance in your calipers. What is your opinion on the yellow stuff pads now? Have you done anymore track days on them? 🤙
There's an element of balancing I guess, but both sides get the pressure, and the cars brakes perfectly straight so I'm not worried.
I replaced the yellow stuff at the time I was doing that video for the PBS pro race that everyone seems to use and they're fantastic compared to yellowstuff on track.
The yellowstuff are a really really good road pad if your not Colin McRae, but suck on track. The opposite is the PBS pads, OK on road once warmed a bit, but really good on track. Defo a better compromise for this kinda car.
Sheez.. though they improved things over the years as bad reputation over forums since 20's.. i'm worried now about heavy brakes over canyons where some downhills you end up braking multiple times..
Should be blues, yellow is for “light track use”
I learned that pretty quickly. The compromise between road and track is simply to vast to have something that's perfect at both. The PBS pro race are excellent on track, but sub optimal on the roads in normal conditions, the yellow EBC are the opposite.
So you would say they would be fine for regular daily driving on stock rotors 2017 audi A4 stock?
On the road in my car they were really good, great initial bite, just fade when really pushed!
@@captainsvlog so they will perform just as good as oem? I always buy like akebono but its a daily driver not a race track car.
Curious if there is any difference in run off on your rotors
Not enough that you can know without properly measuring, I can't feel when using them. I think it could related to how the proportioning valve works, with the whole diagonal circuit thing. As when I swapped the pads the first gently drive the passenger side disk wasn't fully cleaned off by the pads. Took a few decent stops before all the discs were looking uniform.
The car physically stops straight as an arrow, and the PBS pro race pads are savage compared to these EBC ones, and they can handle the heat on track no problem.
They are very good on street use and b roads sprinted driving, but as EBC says, If we want EBC for track, and still road legal, we should use the blue stuff.
The truth is you can only get so much from oe clamp style braking system best to upgrade a to a bigger 2 piece brake disc with monoblock calipers.
Indeed, though this approach is very cost prohibitive for a good many people. The PBS pads are great on track in an OEM caliper. They're used in many race series, and I'm sure many of those guys go much quicker round a lap than us road car drivers.
Your caliper pistons could be a factor also
Always a possibility, though I rebuilt both calipers with new pistons and seals, it's an odd one as the cars brakes perfectly straight from 130mph whilst hard on them and from 30mph with very light pressure. I haven't seen this same issue with the PBS pads either?
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