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- Thinking of getting the new Yamaha MT10 as your next bike? Then look no further and watch this first ride and review.
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I took a one out for a test ride 2 year's ago. Loved it. Only the brakes let it down.
Yes, my 2017 MT10 also had poor brakes - not something they have improved!
Great honest review.
I like that yours really does feel unbiased, which is not the case for most of the other reviews I feel.
Also like the Horn comment...like why is it like that ????
Thanks for the comment, I try and give my honest opinion on all the bikes I ride, no matter what the salesman wants me to say. If I like it, I'll let you know, if I don't ill say it as well. Ride Safe.
Got my 22 model last November. Tech black and 2k of extras. Got the first service done just before Christmas and haven't ridden it since. Can't wait for the summer.
Hopefully some new pads came in that 2k of extras. 😝
@@DSR1YT I don't find the brakes lacking, I ride on the road, not a racetrack. They bed in after a time. It's hard to judge properly when discs and pads are brand new. I rarely use more than 1 finger to brake.
@disaffectedmale having owned an mt10 I still found those brakes rubbish. Brakes are subjective. Some people like soft brakes others don’t. I know I’m not the only one who found them lacking though. 🤙
Got this exact bike previously had z900 absolutely love the mt10 forget the mpg smiles not miles
without a doubt, if you want mileage then this isn't the bike for you, if you want to forget your troubles that day and have the front wheel want to lift all the time, then this is your bike of choosing.
I had multiple test rides on the MT-10 (old and new), thought hard about getting one, but then I bought the Husqvarna 701 Supermoto instead which has even more fun and character.
Very different bikes! But glad you enjoy Supermoto life 🤙
I got my MT10 new in 2016 for £9300 and at that price with the flaws it had it was an absolute steal. I waited for the new one but Yamaha asking upwards of 13k for much the same bike with all the same issues was the reason i had to move on to another brand/bike in the end. Wish they would put the cp4 motor into a tracer style sports tourer with 21ltrs.
Exactly, i thought the same when i got the 2017 model. Couldn’t believe it was 10k as there were 600cc’s for a few grand more. But now with that base price its not a great starting point to then start correcting its issues.
@@DSR1YT The MT10 has the same price as the Streetfighter V2 and Speed Triple 2023 WHERE I LIVE. It doesn't hold a candle to either. It's too much.
I wish they had the cp4 motor in the 2023 xsr
Love the looks of it!
It’s a face only a mother could love. I thought the last MT10 ( i did own one) had a questionable look to it, but definitely preferred the old look over this new look. Each to their own though.
@@DSR1YT Yeah, many hate the looks of my SDGT too, and I really don't care they do.😉
@@rickseconds7676 can’t see the front end whilst I’m wheeling past em 🤣
@@mattjhmccann Right....🤤
I just bought the tech black, love it! I've already ordered shit loads of aftermarket parts for it, going to get a ar belly exit pipe for it at some point too, but I don't think they have cracked the ecu properly yet, so going to wait for that rather than getting a standard ecu flash, I didn't buy it for mpg I bought it for more comfort, coming from an r1,love that cross plane engine sound
The sound is very intoxicating, only other bike I would put in front of the MT10 for pure engine sound would be the Aprilia Tuono V4 factory. Decat pipe and slip on really opens up the MT10 for sure. Loved my 2017 10 as well. Sad i got rid of it.
Send your ECU to Moore Mafia.. thank me later.
i had a 2018 mt 10 sp loved it but i just bought a mt 09 sp 2023 and honestly the new 889 triple and handling is awesome i love it even more and i feel like a born again hooligan
Surprising to hear you’ve gone backwards to the MT09, both are great machines and are beasts in their own categories. Ill be taking out the MT09 soon so ill have to see how this year compares to the MT10 i tested a few months back. Ride safe and try to keep that front wheel down :)
@@DSR1YT believe it or not ive had 59 bikes in 46 years its my passion everything from a x7 to a zzr14000 performance sport to 2 busa several gs and a couple of gsxr1000 honestly at 63 years of age and yes i still feel like a kid@D honestly i love the mt 09 sp 2023 you have to ride it , it hasnt got huge amounts of power but you have to ride it to get the most out of it and for that i absolutely love the thing, be safe out there and keep the videos going i love them
@@hawkslayers1 man that’s a lot of bikes. Riding is also my passion, that’s why I thought, why not make it a job. Glad you are enjoying the videos and we appreciate your support on our YT journey. Enjoy the mt09 and ride safe
Have a '17 sp 2 and half years now , 62000 km done absolutely love it. Likes the juice and tires alright. Thinking of changing to the new version soon . Everyone banging on about the low hp compared to other bikes , how much in the real world do you need ? Mines flashed and will do over 160 odd, you ain't hitting that every day !
Exactly, this may be low in BHP but who cares, if you've ridden one then you know its not about the HP its about the torque and man does this bike make its torque low down in the rev range, only other bike ive ridden so far that would beat this for torque is the Aprilia Tuono V4 factory. if you want to upgrade I can highly recommend that bike, ive done a few videos on the Tuono I owned. Either way, ride safe.
Would be great choice 😀👍
Needs too much upgrading for me and at the base price it’s at now just doesn’t work for me.
Hi dude. On my R1 you can change power modes off throttle as long as the traction control is set to the same number in both modes👍🏻
Ah ok, this i did not know nor come across on my research, its a shame that they have the ability but there is parameters on how it can be used, not ideal if you ask me. Ride safe on the R1
@@DSR1YT Cheers. Something to do with the TC rear wheel sensor I believe. It needs to recalibrate when you change the level
I bought and still own an original 2016 Fluro Grey MT10. Definitely the best bike I've ridden in 42 years of riding motorcycles.
It helps I'm not a fan of tech on bikes, it's got just enough for not a lot to go wrong.
I like that it can still scare. Still wheelie off the throttle at stupid speeds. Still take me in comfort across Europe (with many stops for fuel) and still be totally reliable at 31,000 miles.
Not a fan of the new look with the daft acoustic vents or it's weird new front end look.
I paid under £10K new, now that was a bargain.
I too had my MT10 at the near perfect point of mods for me, looked good, sounded good, worked well and had all the touring set up as well. Sad i got rid of it, however i can honestly say if you asked me to chose between the 10 and a Tuono, the Tuono would win every time. Not as comfortable but dam it puts a smile on your face. If you ever get a chance to try one out id say go for it. But until that day comes, enjoy riding the 10 and ride safe.
@@DSR1YT I'm 6ft 4 and the Tuono just feels too small for me. Pushing 60 now the 10's got plenty enough power and excitement for me, I spend most of the time following my mrs on her Street Triple these days anyway.
@@Banditmanuk I feel you, I sold my MT10 because Zoe had just passed her test and bought herself a 390 duke, didn't want to be egging her on to keep up with me on the 10, that's why I traded it in for something different, got the KTM 690 SMC, fancied a bit of sumpermoto life, that lasted 6 months as my fat ass couldn't get along with the seat, also I had a few issues with that 690, luckily she traded up to her MT07 at the same time as me so that's I moved on to the tuono at that point. The Tuono isn't a spacious bike that's for sure.
@D.S.R. Carol has just about got the hang of things now.... 2011 since she did her test and can get a shift on if she's in the mood.
Always down to if they're in the mood :). im pleased you also get to enjoy the road with her, much nicer than having them on the back of the bike hitting your helmet when you come off the throttle :). Ride safe.
I looked at these but the mpg was something I couldn’t do. Went with a 2023 Suzuki gsx S1000 instead. Much happier and what a machine!
The fuel range isn’t for everyone that’s for sure. If you ride gently then yeah you can get 150 to a tank. But what’s the point in buying this and riding gently ??
@@DSR1YT exactly! The MT 10 is an awesome bike! I really did enjoy the test ride. Being on the taller side( 6’3) the gsx fit me better. Both have bullet proof engines. That all that matters. The rest is just bells and gizmos. The quick shifter on the gsx was incredibly smooth, that’s what sold me. And when you hit 7k rpms it’s a rocket ship!
Sadly the older shifter wasn't that good, definitely improved over time, this 10 was pretty smooth. Yet to ride any Suzukis, looks like I need to go hunting for my nearest dealer :)
@@DSR1YT Anything Suzuki does will end better than Yamaha who seems as of late to be focused on Price point. The MT-10 SP finally made it to the states and the dealers are mucking up the price! I'm not paying $19000 for a $15K bike. The BMW, Aprilia and Suzuki are better bikes.
I love the windshield! Would you mind sharing the link to it, please? ...or at least Brand/Model? - Respect!
Sorry mate, this was only a demo bike, I couldn't tell you which one it is. Hopefully someone reading this knows the answer.
The horn can be relocated to the inside of the LHS air intake pretty easily. Just reroute the cable and reuse the bracket after bending it slightly.
It’s a shame the designers at Yamaha didn’t think of this instead of just whacking it in the same place as the older 10. At least the older gen have the bottom winglets under the nose to kind of cover the horn up.
@@DSR1YT True. There’s probably a regulation in one of the countries the bike is sold into which stipulates that it has to be in a certain position so they just put it there, but fortunately there’s usually a way to fix up these irritating little issues.
@@MrDeepseadweller Agreed, luckily I owned the older gen MT10 so mine was hidden under the winglets and so it didn't bother me. Ive got a friend with the new MT10 who is already asking about where to move it to.
If your looking at Japanese, & since you looked at the bmw Cruiser, it's in your price range. The ZH2. The red frame and gray body, the supercharger sound & despite being more powerful than this one, it has better manners I've been told because of the weight and length. *chef's kiss*
So I have reviewed the ZH2 and the H2 SX SE, both great bikes, the ZH2 is crazy quick but lacks real character, Tuono V4 for the win out of this style of bikes.
All you have to do to sort the brakes out, as you say ,,,is get a better set of pads on it.decat and tune..she's a beast.Im always looking for more power. 😁
In the bigger picture, it isn’t hard to upgrade the parts and have an awesome bike. It’s just annoying that Yamaha still haven’t fixed these issues over the years, even with increasing their base price, what are they spending this extra cash on if not a £80 set of pads?
My 2020 changes engine modes on the fly while clutch is pulled in fyi.
Always handy to know.
I had a 18. It was fun. But definitely had its flaws. I wished they would have made it a big triple like the 09. Better mpg. Kept its character. But it’s decent for the price point.
They should of either kept the cost similar to what it has been in the past few years or upgraded the weak points for it. Sadly they’ve done neither. There’s always next year i suppose.
Had mine October done 3000 miles so far, fitted ebc pads, mpg doesn't bother me as I'm having fun on it,
I used to say smiles per miles on my bike. £20 for a days worth of fun is worth it to me.
Iv got this exact model would you say the ebc pads made a massive difference
@@elvisthewart670 I changed the lines on mine as well as the pads, and without a doubt it made a huge difference, my breaking was done under one finger, 2 fingers if I was in sh*t, sh*t, sh*t moment. This MT10, I was using 3 fingers just to get it to stop properly. Start with the pads as that's the easiest and cheapest option to try first, if you feel you want more then move on to the other parts, worth changing he brake fluid if its not been done in a while.
Got my '18 late this last summer, 1kmi for $9700 here in the states. Problem is I had just purchased a brand new 3rd gen mt09 about 8 months before that. Can't really justify keeping both. Already putting money into mt10, think I'm going to sell the mt09 when the weather improves in a couple months. After new mt10 (22>) is flashed and has an exhaust, it's fuel consumption is JUST AS BAD as 1st gen. My buddy has one, I know it first hand.
Yes, can’t see the utility of having an MT09 and and MT10!! Fuel consumption is never on your side with an MT10 😂
It's not too much power. In the liter class nakeds, its actually the least powerful. SuperDuke 1290R, Streetfighter V4, Tuono, Speed Triple RS and Zh2 are all more powerful, some by a wide margin... Bone stock, this bike is only cranking out somewhere around 136hp at the wheel. You need an ECU flash and at least a slipon to get to the 150 mark, and every other liter class naked is well above that in stock form...
I would rather see a new rider jump on the ZH2 with its smooth linear power curve and easy to handle throttle response. Over putting them on an MT10 in mode 1 and watch them struggle to handle its low end torque. Just because its not too much for you doesn't mean it won't be too much for others.
I bought my tech black in November 2022 , after a toss up between this and the track speed triple 1200 rs . I regret my decision.
We all make back choices in life. Luckily bikes don’t need to be a permanent one.
@@DSR1YT These are shockers! Plus they look so boring.
I can't get over how bad the MPG is honestly, it must be so expensive to run. Maybe the mt09 might be a good idea.
It does get expensive but then you just accept it and move on. If you’ve researched this bike before buying it, its definitely something that would of come up in discussion.
3rd comment on this particular bike, the cross plane 4 cylinder engine is my idea, had in 1974, works great from watching you testing it, my idea works is all i care, don’t know if anybody would care to say “thanks”
The engine sure does work nicely, all the low end grunt you need and want in a hyper naked bike. perfect for the uk roads.
a mode is fine , i have one and its smooth as silk
I’m pleased your 10 is smooth in A. This one wasn’t and it was the same for my 2017 MT10.
@@DSR1YT right hand mate its all there , I have a bking a 2020 superduke and an mt10 as well as a resto gs1000 after the SDR the mt10 is a sweet smooth ride lol
7:45 great shot from the side, insta 360?….edit 9:02 …..obviously not 😂
Chase bike following me around 😁. Cheaper than a 360 🤣
the only I dont like is the engine braking seems a little harsh to me maybe not to others I dont know and after awhile the MT-10 seems a little boring
Agreed. I also didn’t like the initial 10% pickup on the throttle. Too snatchy for me. That’s why I got my MT10 evo remapped. 🤙
@@DSR1YT is there anything in the program that can adjust engine braking that youknow
@kevincraig8257 I’m not sure if the newer models have engine braking adjustments on them. Sorry mate.
@DSR1YT I know the SP had this capability I'm seriously thinking about the SP it has lots of nice goodies the standard doesnt for around 3500 more ride safe
I thought my local dealer said these only come with a quick up shifter and not a down blipper?? Are you sure you weren’t just smashing it down through the box 😂 edit, sorry stupid comment by me. Just saw it on the dash of the bike 🙈🙈🙈
Yup pretty sure 😁.
@@DSR1YT sorry I was being an idiot
@@LickyDischarge Don't worry, we all have those moments 😁
Thanks for the review. I considered the MT10 a couple of years back however as stated too many shortcomings…..eventually put me off, lovely engine other wise a let down. Terrible choice of color, poor brakes, dreadful mirrors, no wind protection as std. suspension not the best. Yamaha @ £13k + you need a serious rethink or is this deliberate to sell more SP models 😀
I like watching your videos because you go past my mums in Bridport… l always have an eye in the background to see if she is out walking intoxicated town or West Bay… she likes bikes so if you see granny looking at you, it might be her 😂👍
Really hmmm I live in Northumberland 😊
You would be better off finding a second hand mt10 with all the extras and niggles fixed and still come under 8k if you look hard enough. The SP colours do look good though aye :)
@@jamest5149 haha, I'll go there more often then, see if anyone approaches me. Stumbled across Bridport one day with the kids, its a lovely area and a great half way stop for us making most videos.
how much do you weigh?
115kgs 🤦🏻🤣
@@DSR1YT I am heavy too, just curious if the bike did fine with the extra weight? Cheers for the review.
I can't understand why Yamaha are so mean my old triumph 600 from years ago had braided brake lines & aluminium everything including the seat subframe, what is happening!!!
Sadly they’ve always been like this. Frustrating because it’s easily fixed. If they spent some of that extra cost increase on important bits like decent brake pads then i wouldnt mind.
FYI. The R1 has magnesium subframe and wheels, braided brake lines and race brake pads, aluminium engine bolts. No meaness there dude.
@@LeeTillbury ya have to agree.. think my mates. 1990 Honda NSR 250 had magnesium wheels & crank.
If i didnt have a superduke r,i'd have the bmw,or maybe the speed triple,then an h2.the yammy is fine for the yammy fan boys,but theres a lot of better bikes in front of it imho.
Agreed Mart, they are good bikes but certainly need a little attention if bought new to make em great bikes. By that point you might as well be looking elsewhere.
@@DSR1YT and therein lieth the problem.if yamaha did what is needed to make it top drawer straight off the bat,then it would be too expensive.
@@mart7798 too expensive or just in line with the other litres bikes?
@@DSR1YT yeah,maybe in line with the others.i think they've made a concious decision to have it like this though.its going to fall into more peoples budgets isnt it.
@@mart7798 it certainly did mine back in 2017. £10,700 brand new out the door. Shame they’ve increased the base price but everything is more expensive nowadays so their just keeping up with inflation. Shame my wage packet doesn’t 😁
Still better than a ktm
more reliable as well. 4 years owning one and no issues at all.
Love the sound but it'll always be one fugly bike.
Sometimes the ugly ones ride the best. Just saying :)
Hi
Did you get yourself a new bike. Mt10 is not gonna be a good one
No I didn’t. This was just a review video. I’ve had my MT10 days. Need something with a little more range per tank 😁
@@DSR1YT You kind a liked a GSA... After all the trouble with KTM... I almost bought a self one year ago 1290....i am super glad I didn't.
I am curious to see... Keep up the good work. Cheers
@@Yamalover78 Thanks for your comment, You never know you might have got one of those golden KTMs with no issues, it's a lottery with them though. Glad you are enjoying the content. Ride Safe.
Its a NUETERED R1 how can it have "too much power"? Its way down on power without the titanium con rods and valves and hotter cams...one might say it is a veritble dog ....in comparison....honest officer this thing could not have been speeding! Its SLOW!
OK.
Enough with this naked crap Yamaha and make a Tracer 1000. Tracer 900 will never be a substitute for that 1000 CP4. There's enough room in the sport touring category to have a Tracer 900 and a Tracer 1000 sold as thier flagship bike.
There will always be a market for naked bikes, and IMO the best Sunday bike for the UK, all the fun and more comfort, usually cheaper depending what brand you get and has less chance of getting you in trouble with the Po-Po.
A Tracer 1000 wouldn’t work because the CP4 is too fuel inefficient to be used in a touring bike. The new M 1000 XR would be a great choice when it comes out next year, but it will probably cost quite a bit more.
Got an S1000XR, 165 bhp, sport tourer, goes faster, handles better and brakes better than an MT10, aint no way that's too much power. I'd call it "just the right amount"
I also have a XR but if Yamaha finally got with the times and made a Tracer 1000 with that CP4 I'd be hard pressed to switch.
@@kugangles9860 Facts, Tracer 9 GT+ tech with a MT10 engine... hmmmm just hope they don't reuse their crappy brakes... And fix fuel economy...
Power is very subjective though isn’t it. Some people wouldnt ride an MT10 on power mode A because it’s ‘too much power’ and they feel they couldn’t handle it. I personally would only bounce between mode A and D if the wet stuff closed in. I like that fact it will catch you out if you aren’t careful when getting on the power, makes for a fun ride :)
@@DSR1YT I think there is a distinction between engine power and delivery. The XR's 165 bhp is perfectly managed by the riding modes. In rain you won't get full power in 1st and 2nd, and in 3rd TC will be hiding around the corner in case things to tits up, but if you're cruising on the motorway at 70 in 6th gear, rain does little to no limitation to the power and will allow you to make swift overtakes. Yet if you wanna wheelie over every slight crest you find in the road in 3rd gear, Dynamic Pro has your back. Power is the same, although I think rain does indeed cap out ~120-130 bhp, delivery is different.
@@AntaresSQ01 ya ya ya..bmw..bla bla.