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Like When I lived with my grandma she was really Judge mental and she I was really forcing me to be in side then I noticed I’m old enough to move out and when I move out I finally feel free to do whatever I want
@@Horanghae-yz2su he might still look like a baby but we all know he matured at a young age bcz he was an idol and faced such thing that normally teenagers won't be able to cope.
@@Khanquirat goes for most idols tbh.. a lot of them debut at such a young age to give up their childhood, some of them don’t even make it 😭 they really do go through shit, but those who are successful now can say they’ve worked hard 🤷🏻♀️
@@mewhen4959 ikr i feel so bad when you start diving into kpop you know how dark and ugly it is actually all forms of entertainment idols, models and actors everyone related to media suffers a lot
even under a good label fame is still taking away freedom Suga lately talked about how he misses simple things in his life that he can't do now From the 2018-19 docuseries: "You lose as much as you gain. You gain as much as you lose. For me, I lost the ordinary. That’s the biggest change. What that means is - what’s ordinary to others is very special to me, whereas what’s special to others is very ordinary to me. Then, before you know it, your set of values changes, the values with which you see the worlds."
At least he talked openly... That not only pressure from company... But himself and group self have the ego to reach and to give the best of his/yheir talent....
I think more than the label in that statement, he’s talking about the fame like you said. Things like fast food or a home cooked meal are very normal for me and it’s special when I go to a fancier restaurant. For Yoongi and many other idols, it’s the other way around. He can’t do things like get a home cooked meal from his parents very often. He can’t go to fast food even though it seems like such a simple thing, people would immediately recognize him. He can however go to fancy restaurants because he has the money for it and it’s probably the only food place that has privacy for celebrities. Their lives get turned upside down and backwards with fame. Like he said, the values completely change and you know what is truly important. Thank you for this comment, it really made me think again and I hope someday they can get privacy and have families and love that they deserve 💜
@Eugene Ng True. Everyone will leave but not our Lord. He is always there for us. We need to seek Him truly, with our whole heart and He will deliver us from our pain. I have been there. I have experienced His loving hands guiding me out of darkness. He forgave me of my mistakes and gave me light. I found inner happiness and that's one of the biggest achievements in life. Every one seems happy but we are never really truly happy from inside. God provides that n it's a beautiful feeling!✨
Do you remember reacting to IU’s Eight? That song is actually dedicated to Sulli along with her other idol friends who had taken their life due to being an idol
I understand where Justin is coming from when he says, “You don’t have to do this anymore. Music is skill based and anyone can get big now ” but it seems like he’s coming from a very western perspective. Which isn’t necessarily a bad thing, but it kind of overlooks the struggles that POC face when breaking into the industry. How many Asian artists, who are not BTS or BlackPink or a group from a major Kpop label, has made it onto the Billboard Hot 100? I’m Asian American and I can only name a handful and most of them are Half-Asian and don’t talk about their Asian roots too often. I think because of social media, there has been more visibility for new and upcoming artists, but I do think that race/nationality is still a factor. Look at BTS. The first song of theirs that made #1 on the billboard charts was a song written in English. They literally had one of the best selling albums worldwide in 2019 with Map of the Soul: Persona but most of the awards they received were for best social group or best Kpop group. They’re often snubbed for album of the year, etc. and that just goes to show how the west has not fully accepted Asian artists into its sphere. This is all to say that sometimes signing with a label is the only option for these Kpop artists. Sometimes it is their only path to the “top.” It’s incredibly unfortunate and sad, but it seems like that is the reality. I think at the end of the day, the music industry just has to do better in protecting and taking care of their artists, so that their path to the top is safe and worthwhile.
Yea it's mostly because of xenophobia, racism and narrow mindedness of people that made them not to accept that these artists have already outperformed most artists in their country. It is true that music has no barrier but people still close their doors to these artists because they think everything only revolves around their country
Bet you don't know who romeo santo is? He has broken even Taylor swifts records he has sold and outsold he being doing us stadiums for yrs his songs have made it to bb 100 but he still doesn't get nominated with the Americans. Same goes with maluma, jbalvin, daddy yankee bad bunny to name a few.
Didnt Rm say to big hit how do you expect us to write love songs without dating? Could have been a thumbnail clickbait. Im not an army though so this is an actual question.
Not really, you can even try your solo career alone and independently, but if it is someone who can only sing and not produce what s/he will do? And how will s/he be able to promote himself in weekly shows like "Inkigayo", "Mubank" ect or rather how will that person be able to be recognized in Kpop without having something that brings fans? Album sales? CL wanted to be independent but she realized that without a Label she would not go anywhere... I give you the example of a group that I really like (my fav rookie group aaah) that debuted on August 7, 2020 - *TREASURE* a new group from YG Entertainment, do you really think that if they were not premiered with the name of YG behind them they would be called "Global monster rookies"? I don't say that they are called that because they are from YG but YG aka YG stans were the ones that helped them, the same for Winner, iKON and Blackpink they were all called "rookie monsters" and won Rookie of the year (ROTY) award. The same for the new girl group of SM "Aespa" or for the new boy group of Bighit "Enhypen" the companies in the case of Kpop are the ones that help most in recognition that's why few try to make a career alone so they just wait years and years until they are chosen, and if they try we don’t even know because they are insignificant without a company, *sad but true* That’s why when the company is very small and poor they sign an agreement with large channels to promote their groups like *1theK* most of these groups that are promoted at 1theK are groups with poor companies...BTS was promoted there before Bighit was a rich company Edit: I'm back do give you all the example of Holland...as much as people love him (including me) if he didn’t have all that controversy with koreans for being gay almost nobody would know about him
@Angel Mijie Justin was talking about how now it's different now and people can debut without a company, it may be true in western countries but in Korea there's no chance of you debuting as a kpop idol without being in a company
I think this is where Big Hit is different from many other companies. They're changing the industry to not just care about the fans (customers), but actually care more about their singers. I've been into kpop for many years and I can already see differences. BUT, of course there is still a lot that needs to be fixed.
I agree is true that bh overworks BTS A LOT but when they have breaks they make sure no one is bothering them, and I feel like BTS are more than investments to Bang PD bcz they literally started from nothing and grew together until now
@@whatthefk3093 they are, but I think it just becomes bothersome and extra worry if they publicly announce they’re dating (if that’s the case). As far as I know, the only company (from the big ones) that doesn’t allow dating is YG.
@@whatthefk3093 no I dont think so...they do not date themselves because of sasengs and all...and even if they do they do not publicly announce that because of the same reason
yes, it is way too different, examples are as we can see how they prioritize the members health. like again suga went under a surgery for his shoulder and he is not gonna participate in bts upcoming album release promos, this is not the first time suga didnt participate in bts promo activities he did that in save me era too, and in fire era in some award shows, he went under surgery that time too, thats one of the reasons many like bighit groups more, personally I am not a fan of kpop industry but bighit contracts are normal artist/company contracts. another example that even outside kpop or anywhere in the world u dont see companies that just hand out stocks to the artists and singers under them, bighit literally handed out shares to bts members and all of them are now share holders in company. cuz they are literally the main outcome of the company so they acknowledge that.
We just got told today that Yoongi, aka SUGA of BTS, finally had surgery for his shoulder that has been injured since 2012 - yes, 8 years of pain, physical therapy and injections later, he finally had his surgery on 3rd November. He dislocated it when he was hit by a car as a trainee and has suffered from it since with his ligament even being torn etc. We are super happy that he finally did the surgery and he is currently recovering but will not be taking part in their performances for their new album getting released on the 20th as he will be resting - AS HE SHOULD BE. 💜 BTS have recently however become key shareholders in their company and have also renewed their contacts which is definitely a big step and gives them even more of a say in their careers and lives which is amazing and something that they have worked so hard for and deserve. 💜
Wow, I scrolled a bit and I only see people recommending songs for them to react to, but this video is about the dangers of being a kpop idol and that's a serious topic
Literally what i was thinking about, it’s like some people don’t care of even acknowledge this topic , like pls, the WHOLE vid is about the dangers of being a kpop artist , so take this seriously instead of just commenting the songs that they should react to next.
I think that's what makes BTS' recent contract renegotiations, and BigHit giving each member a significant number of shares in the company, such an important step... hopefully in the right direction. A company like BigHit can't help but realize that a group of artists single handedly changed the trajectory of their entire company, and it forces them to acknowledge their artists in a different way. They aren't perfect, they're still a company who's survival is dependent on having a consistent revenue stream, but they must be doing something right for a group like BTS to choose to re-sign with them. Hopefully, the financial successes they've achieved while treating their artists better than most companies will act as motivation for other companies in the future.... Also, if I never write the word company again it will be too soon. OOF!
Companies are created ,like big hit not only to entertain us but also to compete with others. Its a market where the first get more than others. Im not saying that bts are not treated properly. But, the reason for what they are doing is to make the business successful. They can say love yourself, sing for those dead children who were in the boat, ect... but is it really to give a powerful message only? Or they strategically did it to touch the heart of many, get a lot of attention then gain more money?. Bts dont even have break, why do they have to be filmed everywhere?? In their vacancy, when they went to europe? Its to get more attention, to make people look for them, hunt them, to know that they were, in this restaurant, to know xyz and then get the revenue from it. Im only talking about BTS Disclaimer: i dont know them, i see only the perspective through my phone I know BTS is awesome but they dont have any freedom. They are just like the other companies, they get maltreated like the other companies. Ect.. Sorry for my bad english. Its my 3rd language
@@levynkhs8820 I am only pointing out BTS, because it was stated in the video that they are known to be treated better by BigHit than a lot of artists from other companies. They were the only active group BigHit had, so their financial success was entirely invested in BTS. They had to treat them well to be successful, because they didn't have any other artists to fall back on. Now they're so big that the company still can't afford to lose them, so the continue to treat them fairly well by comparison to other companies. Also, the cameras on them during their vacation weren't talking about the company filming them. It was saying that even when they go on vacation strangers film them, follow them, etc. They didn't share where they were going, they didn't post about where they were. They tried to have quiet vacations, and some were actually successful. Others were found anyway and filmed without their consent. And yes, they do their jobs in a way that makes them money (both company and artists). That's what a job is. Most of us wouldn't be doing the jobs we do if we weren't getting paid for it. Thats the nature of the world we live in.
@@levynkhs8820 the thing is that you don't have to write songs about self love or deep topics to make it big, just take a look at the songs at the top of charts. Besides, BTS has always sung about what they feel is close to their heart and mind, it's not that they started to write about self confidence/love just now, they debuted having members in the songs credits and, in fact, when they started to release more shallow-ish songs it's when they got more attention from the public. Thus, you are wrong there, mate, at least with BTS, they are different from whatever you have thought a both commercially successfull and critically acclaimed artist is.
The only thing I think is worth it for becoming a Kpop idol is the love and support you get from true fans the support that your family gives you putting out music and art for people to love and to hear your message through the music and also if you have a good company like BTS
Yeah but saddly that doesn't last much, bcz those fans who love u, think of u as an object ,in the moment you say or do something they don't like and they love will become hate in seconds
Yaidelis Galvez Exactly, They criticize if you are dating, if you have done plastic surgery and the thing is leaked, if you don't do something correctly and do some minormistakes though Idols are also humans.
@@blinkforever4666 yes, I totally respect them for pursuing their dreams and giving all of them but is it really worth it , most of those fans will get bored of them or the "they have changed" like happened w tae, people need to understand that they're human who suffer and get tired as well as we do, and fans still get mad when they date someone, like can you think for a minute how lonely they're lives are, they see they're families once in a month and even if they have the members they get tired of them too, bcz sometimes you just one space and privacy, being a celebrity takes more than talent, beauty or money everything is about sacrifice, some give up their childhood, privacy, their happiness for their dreams and they're never really respected for that
@@yaidelisgalvez5356 when I said the fans who love u I was talking about the true fans who see idols for who they are and support them for who they are the ones that don’t judge or Juno to conclusions about things they hear and the ones who don’t care what idols dating who or what idol was in a relationship with what idol But like with the whole Chen getting married thing back in the beginning of the year that was just stupid of people to request that he leave EXO just bc he was getting married and he had a baby in the way like people he’s a grown ass man who found his soul mate and if he wants to marry her and start a family with her than that’s perfectly fine like just support him
A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ROSE: The Rose is a pop-rock band that consists of four members: (from left to right 15:20) Dojoon, Woosung, Jaehyeong, and Hajoon. The group was formed under J&Star Ent. and they debuted on August 3, 2017 with their single “Sorry”. They decide to terminate their contract in February 2020, after not being paid since debut. It is honestly really sad how they were so overworked yet they weren’t paid a cent for their talent. I truly hope they are able to release new music as soon as they can because they’re very very talented. Please check out Black Rose, it is a very touching song they made for their fandom as they were in the process of leaving their agency. I’m not sure how the legal process is going but as far as I know they aren’t disbanding. Although I do know that one of the members left to do mandatory military service on the 6th of July. They need all the support they can get so I hope anyone reading this will consider supporting them!!! #WeStandWithTheRose #BlackRose
Yes please support them and give Black Rose a listen on youtube!!! It's almost at 1M views now #WeStandWithTheRose #BlackRose Unfortunately they were actually unable to terminate their contract as they lost the lawsuit against the company, despite all the evidence/paper trails they had, which honestly is not surprising given the way things work with ent. companies and lawsuits over there. Black Rose was taken down from all music streaming sites except their own youtube channel and they are stuck under contract with J&Star Ent. for now. "Apparently" the the company wants to come to an "amicable" agreement with the band. In the meantime, they were only able to get by by busking and now all the members except Woosung have either already enlisted (Dojoon in July and Hajoon in October) or probably will soon (as Jaehyeong is only few months younger). Woosung/Sammy is American so I believe he doesn't have to but he can't really do anything else while he's stuck in the company. Hopefully with enough support they will be able to return to making music one day when they finally manage to return once their contract is ended ❤️
I see it in Jihyo’s eyes every. single. time. she does her job. I cant see EVERYTHING she’s sacrificed, everything she’s been through. I truly believe she is the strongest woman in kpop. Then you think about how people have been commenting on her weight and appearance for years. I know we joke about Jihyo’s dancing like “Damn Jihyo rent is not due tomorrow,” but she dances with so much energy and passion because it’s what she lives for. It’s what she was made to do and what she’s been preparing for for her entire life. The years she had to herself weren’t many: 8 years total, she’s 23. Her childhood wasn’t long and being in the industry for so long, she grew up so fast and had to be accustomed to the hate. She is such a strong woman and I wish more people appreciated our leader because she’s also a role model to the group. The respect they hold for her is insurmountable and she will ALWAYS remain my bias. #godjihyo 🧡
Yeah srsly.....whenever I think about jihyo it makes me sad about how she invested her entire childhood into being an idol and then the ppl say she's fat like damn....wtf😑😑😑
It's really sad that fans feel entitled to controlling their favorite singers' lives. Hopefully more idols can date in public. Also, please react to Taemin's song "Criminal"!
Does anyone here have any sign of respect or manners? Dont you realise that this isnt the type of video to comment recomandations on for reactions. Littarly just look at Justin's face when they talk about Sulli but all you guys seem to care about is what video he reacts to next. You would think that people who watch MV's with subtitles would know how to read the room jeez...
I was going to say the same thing then I found your comment. I'm disgusted by the comments of people asking for reactions when the video is a serious and sad matter
The saddest thing is that kpop agencies dont give a chance to smaller artist. They even sabotage them just so their idols can have a better chance. These idols don't really stand a chance to follow their dreams if they don't sign to these agencies.😞
It is sad, the entertainment industry is really a dark and terrible place. There are good things that come out of it but in my opinion a lot of it isn't worth all the harm and damage it causes.
@@punkrockpixiegirl Yes, I just specifically said kpop because it was about kpop. But you are right, all entertainment agencies everywhere have gotten really bad.
@@oliviat6208 I was just pointing it out because they did talk about it a little bit in the video, that America isn't much better. Like I get that the video was about kpop, but I just think it needs to change everywhere.
@@punkrockpixiegirl I agree, it should be more about reaching you dreams and having fun along the way then what it has turned into now. I think they shouldn't have turned it into what it is today because it is terrible.
Thanks for reacting to this! I think that not everyone realizes that their worlds aren't just sunshine and rainbow but there is a different side aswell.
Kpop idols go through so much. They try not show their bad sides. They try to perfect something that's already perfect. They work so hard making themselves hurt to make another person happy. They cry. THEY. ARE. HUMANS. They go through so much hate that they do not deserve. Some idols don't even get paid. The Rose for example that band I LOVE THAT BAND and when I found out that they hadn't been paid I was very very angry. Kpop idols also go through a tough time with their parents not supporting them at all. Suga for example he didn't receive support and when he saw his parents at a concert he had got down and cried. These idols starve themselves. It's not all smiles and happiness. It's stress. Worried. Scared. Frustrated. Angry. And hurt also. This is why fans TRUE FANS care and are very overprotective sometimes for their idols because they don't want their idols to go through any more. Hope people would see and know everything about kpop.
I am glad you two listened to the dark sides of the world, while there is good there will be bad. We just feel so much for celebrities but we should know what they need and want too. A normal life to relax and not be around cameras attention 24/7🤓
I really appreciated Lala's first hand experience being shared here. It's more often and public that this happens in Korea's idol industry but we must remember that this happens everywhere in the world including other industries other than music.
BlackPink Jennie has it tough ever since she debuted. She was sent to study aboard at the age of 9 alone. She went straight to the dorms from NZ after getting accepted to YGE at the age of 14. Only last year she got out of dorms and in now living with her mom. She said that she missed out so much time with her parents and that she wishes she got to experience High School. She has been getting bullied since predebut till now. She also mentioned that her mom said Jennie was born with a weak body. Jennie said that she is the grandma of the group because and gets sick and hurt easily. It’s sad that she is the 2nd most hated Kpop artist after Sulli. I am always worried for her.
Some agenicies don't allow dating, and some allow it after a specific period(like JYP) but there are some obsessive fans who verbally abuse and bully the idols' boy or girlfriend(idol or non-idol) to the point where they breakup. A lot of idoos want to be parents, want love and all that, but can't because of jealousy
I’m so thankful for Big Hit because although they are not perfect- at least they have some humanity in them. Being an Idol trainee is expensive, you have to pay the company back once you debut which would take years. If you don’t debut, you just wasted a lot of money. It takes Idols months and sometimes years to pay back the company. Big Hit surprised me when I found out they do it for free. Big hit Trainees don’t have to worry about paying back bc the company doesn’t ask them to. From the data I’ve seen Big Hit and YG are the best paying companies. The data included how these companies distribute the money the group earns. Which is why YG Idols are known to be rich like GD and blackpink etc. Bang PD also talks to the group especially the leader to see what’s in their mind and etc. Which is why BTS are closer to him and TXT are so grateful to him. He definitely isn’t perfect, but he knows that these idols work hard, hence why he started Big Hit in the first place. Music and Artist for Healing that targets the wellbeing of both fans and idols. Have you ever wondered why BTS and TXT are given concepts that make them so human and not “God” like?
The thing is though, in Korea, artists don’t blow up very much without a company. Issues are even worse than the video says. At least three artists have commit suicide in the past two years in KPoP. Many artists collapse on stage or collapse right after coming off. BTS comes off stage and they collapse, needing oxygen and fanned. Small Injuries and accidents are treated like one would a car accident here in the US. Many artists overwork (BTS was working 12-16 hours a day) and go on unhealthy diets (Jimin). Luckily, some of the agencies are really great. BigHit CEO BangPD cares for BTS like they are his children. He wants them to do well but to do well healthily. BigHit artists are taken care of even if they work themselves into exhaustion (personal drive to do exceptional exacerbates already tiring circumstances) and BigHit also has adopted a zero tolerance for people spreading malicious rumors and misinformation about the groups and take all seriously, meeting it with legal action, no matter how old you are. Not many companies do this though. Especially the big companies.
Well, BTS are known to the world, BH earns a lot of money, obviously he has to take care of them otherwise I think the guys would go away and they would surely manage without the agency.
Thank you for reacting to this. Knowing the dangers of Kpop now as a Kpop fan it really makes me appreciate the groups I like even more. For me, it's BTS, and Blackpink their the only one who has captured my heart. But I know every Kpop idol goes through really hard things to be where they are now. i hope this industry becomes much nicer and people become nicer. Again thank you to reacting to this it really shows how much you care will add another depth and appreciation to the Kpop idols you react to.
When I first got into K-pop about 2 and half years ago, I was so distracted by the glitz and glam of it all that I never really payed attention to what happens behind the scenes. The longer you are a K-pop fan, the worse it becomes in your eyes. But thankfully, since K-pop has been getting so much attention in the last 5 years or so, things have gotten immensely more ethical. With everything being shared so quickly, companies have to be more careful and actually think about their artist. Hopefully, things will continue to move into the right direction.
Thank you both. Honestly what y’all said I *felt that* I support and love these artists and groups with all my heart but at the same time *I feel* for them cause of what they *really* have to go through. It’s just really sad and seriously makes me want to hug them all and just fight there battles for them if I could smh.
@@ewelinakoek6630 as he debuted at like around 16) he went through his whole puberty being judged by everyone and also the public people back then didn't really treat BTS well, they looked down on them and blabla....and they weren't really allowed to meet their parents on their rookie days 😩
honestly, this video talks about such an important topic, yet all you all are talking about is the most irrelevant stuff ever. be more considerate, lala even opened up about her past? be more respectful, plz. edit; lala, babe, you're so strong for this! you're so amazing and strong and im so proud of you for overcoming it ❤
Now that I have seen an even deeper meaning behind kpop idols and the commitment that they go through, I respectful them all so so so much and I think we should all respect idols and give them there space when needed and not disrespect there boundaries, and us kpop fans should stick together!!!
I'm glad y'all brought up how relatable this is because a lot of people think it's just a problem in kpop. When in reality these manipulative music contracts happen everywhere, I mean look at what Taylor Swift is going through 😔
Watching this on the dark side of kpop I can't help but now watch these artists and just not look at them the same way and imagine what they are going through to give us good music and put their fans in mind cause they've been through a lot to become this pink like the most recognized, blackpink, bts, exo, nct and so on..
this remind of that suga just went under a surgery for his shoulder and he is not gonna participate in bts upcoming album release promotions, big hit always prioritize the members health. even if it means a member sitting out from the whole promo season, this is not the first time suga didnt participate in bts promo activities he did that in save me era too, and in fire era in some award shows, he went under surgery that time too, thats one of the reasons many like bighit groups more, personally I am not a fan of kpop industry but bighit contracts are normal artist/company contracts.
When I became a fan 7 years ago, how I interpreted the darkside of Kpop and how fans think is that these people we love so much are not Celebrities, but Idols. Idol's that have to be perfect in everything, flawless in their appearance, put onto pedestals for people to obsess over and worship, with a public private life and ultimately not for themselves, but for us. The last part also applies to their dating life. Having an idol dating would ruin their perfect 'Idol' image, but it is because of this preconcieved notion of what an idol is meant to be, dating illicits a strong reaction from fans that look upon it in disdain. It's very sad to think that idols will never truly be happy in that regard until we get rid of the idea of 'The Perfect Kpop Idol' standard
Well first I wanted to mention that the idea that someone starts to be a trainee from a young age it's not a big deal, I mean any person that wants to be an athlete (in any sports), or that paly instruments, singers and dancers they all start from young ages if they want to reach the highest performance. Their life revolves around their art, and they can't take long breaks because they will become worst at what they do, in order to keep your level and become better you can't stop. I remembered when all the children around me were on holiday or vacation I was not because I had training 4-6-8 hours a day (depending), no summer vacation no nothing... and from when I was 8 I moved to another town alone living at boarding school because it was the place where the gymnasts that were training for the Olympics trained, and it was the place where the best of the best were. Being a k-pop star is no different, they train from a young age to get where they are and they have to sacrifice a lot to get there. As for the contracts... they are strict depending on the company, their original format the old type of contracts and training were taken after the Japanese idol program, but lately, the Korean companies became better and more understanding. The contracts are work contracts and they require the artist to be strict with themselves in order to keep them in check ( we saw American kid/teen stars getting famous and money and rolling off the deep end), some forbid idols to date for the first period of time of the contract and some forbid them to date until they reach a certain age, but since it's a serious contract they have to respect the rules. The Kpop industry is not the only one overworking their people all Asian companies are no matter the country, they have a huge culture of work and they tend to overdo it, that is why a lot of people die annually of exhaustion, or you can see people just sleeping on the streets, trains and other public places because they are exhausted this is a culture thing, not a Kpop thing.
Yeah being a kpop idol aint easy man. Speaking of dangers, another somewhat relevant (at least for you Justin) topic of dangers kpop idols is likely to experience in the future is - vocal decay. A topic which, sadly, is very much ignored. The majority of korean entertainment companies doesn't teach/prioritize vocal technique for their trainees/kpop idols. As a matter of fact, a good part of those companies even motivate/force the idols to choose and use damaging styles/uniqueness over the healthier ways to approach singing. I've been following kpop for almost a decade now and I can't say I haven't witnessed a lot of idols regress vocally over the years. I've witnessed idols that sang better in their pre-debut days compared to their after-debut days. I've also witnessed idols, who've stated so themselves how the vocal trainers at their label made and some has even forced them sing worse. Some of those idols even went out of their way to find new vocal coaches that weren't connected to their company (e.g. Suhyun from AKMU). You could argue with the fact that some idols are just too busy, but if they really want to, they can do it can't they? Especially those who's already made it big. The problem is the majority of kpop idols don't really know what really involves into getting good at singing. I can only imagine how some of the big kpop vocalists we know of atm will sound in the future if they continue this way:( That doesn't mean the entire kpop industry is doomed. I've seen groups like Mamamoo, most of the vocalists in SM entertainment, and a few individuals (mainly main vocalists like Eunji, Yuju etc) from other smaller companies that knows and manages to prioritize their vocals. Ouff I ranted too much, but I just wanted to shed some light on this esp since you're a vocal coach and all. The SK entertainment industry seriously needs more vocal coaches like you Justin :.) btw there's a whole thread on this on reddit called 'Vocal training in Kpop' if you're interested. *_*Lastly, uh, could you check out the band ONEWE?*_* It's the brother group of ONEUS. I got quite invested into ONEWE because of their main vocalist Yonghoon. Yonghoon got invited into the band by the drummer after they met in a kpop contest Yonghoon was competing in (and ended up winning lmao), and the rest were playing as a session band for. He's got a quite dark tone for a main vocalist in kpop (I've been speculating on how he's maybe a lyric baritone), but the best of all **his technique is top tier.** They're severly underrated, but I hope it doesn't stop you from reacting to them. I highly recommend watching at least their song 'Regulus' if you're only watching one song. 'Regulus' showcases Yonghoon's vocals and range, as well as the quality of the band the best:) For a live singing video I recommend their song 'Parting', the Vocals Only Live from 1TheK or the Acoustic Ver. on their channel. If you came this far, thanks for reading my ridicuously long comment. Keep up the good work! :.)
THIS!!! I also hate that some fans forget the fact some of our idols don’t get proper treatment regarding their vocals, there is this one group but I ain’t gonna say who lol, even though their company is already big, they had improvements but some members got worse overtime which makes me sad... and sometimes when they release songs, some members have to sing out of their comfortable range which also kinda bothers me but I don’t know why some fans don’t see it, I hope fans will take it seriously how there is a chance our favorite singers could lose their voice in maybe 2-3 years
@@ro-qo2ht Yes I totally agree. Though, I would say ever since the topic of K-pop vocals has come to light the past few years theres a lot more fans today that knows about this topic, but chooses to turn a blind eye to it. Even when their favorite K-pop idol notice it themselves, and is quite clear of/frustrated with their lack in vocal delivery, those fans brush it under the rug and resorts to comments like how perfect they already are and how they don't need to do anything. Not properly taking their idols concerns into account. Losing their voice in 2-3 years is maybe a bit of an exaggeration xD Something more likely is the probability of regression to the point they can't hit certain notes as well as they did before. The moment when the idol sings their iconic songs and struggles to the point that they mess it up is probably the most heartbreaking thing that can happen for both the artist and the fan.:(
Eun yeah the time scale of mine seems a bit exaggerated lol but I wouldn’t be surprised for some, it’s sad that some fans only care about what sounds good but not what’s actually good for the idols, which makes me sad as a fan who appreciates the vocals and musicality there is in Kpop which seems to be easily overlooked by most of fans, hays, hopefully there’ll be a day that fans realise there is more to their performing and there are struggles that we just choose to ignore
i can say that the way k pop idols live and handle their lives are way different then they were a few years ago. You can tell that idols and trainees now have better treatment and living space when they were back then. Like how Big hit was such a small company barely providing the best healthy choice of living like where to sleep and such. Now they're much better and etc.
There’s a podcast called “Get Real” by DIVE Studios. The hosts are idols (BM from KARD, Peniel from BTOB and Ashley Choi, former member of Ladies Code). All of them were born in the US, so they have interesting perspectives about the industry. And the podcast is in English. In some episodes they’ve talked about issues like impossible (and stupid) beauty standards, losing creativity because often their management give groups the songs they are have in the next album, debut stuff, etc. I highly recommend watching this podcast, because like its name says, they try to “get real” about things related to Kpop. I actually recommend to watch all of DIVE Studios podcasts. They give us some insight about the Kpop world and Korean entertainment industry from English speaking artists, like Eric Nam, Tablo, Jae (Day6), AleXa, Sam Hamminton (comedian 🇦🇺) and others. 😅😍👌🏼
I don't get sasaengs though aren't idols just human that accomplished their dreams? What's much of that? Do they have to do all of that to make idols feel insecure, hospitalized and much more? I get that you are obsessed with them but there is always a limit and they shouldn't cross that line
Idk; for me, I feel like sasaengs want a 'way' for them to be recognized, whether it's good or bad. Like imagine being an idol, and a sasaeng breaks into your hotel room and take your things and even left a disturbing message behind, and the thought that they're going to be remembered by you only makes them think that you notice them.
@@pasteldaydream2979 well yeah I get that but I think they still have their limits because at last they are just human with dreams and they have their own privacy. I am an Army and there was once Yoongi aka Suga said that he would want sasaengs to respect his privacy
@@nicolewong9780 I don't think sasaengs know the word 'limit,' and if they do, they will stop. From what I see, I don't think they will because sasaengs for me feel like they have this thought that idols are more than humans. I know Yoongi likes his personal space because that's what he has control over, and he dislikes people coming near him because I remember him having social anxiety in large open crowds.
The Rose, I think they left their label by now (I don't know the whole thing so...) and 2 out of 4 members are enlisted now. So I think in 2 years they will either go independent or sign into another agency and then we'll get to enjoy their music again for sure. I think BTS is really lucky with Bighit, I mean, they are not perfect as a company, but they are not the worst either, otherwise they wouldn't have signed another 7 years.
Unfortunately no the Rose wasn't able to leave their company despite trying to, the company won the lawsuit so they weren't able to break the contract. Fingers crossed they manage to come to an agreement with the company to leave before their enlistments are up so that they still have a chance to make music freely. In the meantime, the only thing we can do is support them and stream their independent song Black Rose on youtube (as it was taken down everywhere else) and keep promoting them on social media even while they're not active.
Since you were shocked about The Rose, The Rose never got paid and tried to sue the company, but lost the trial and now they are in a difficult situation. They are all going to the military now though. 🖤🥀
@A_tiny_San yeah. They are all serving in the military and Woosung is back in LA, but they said that they’ll come back afterwards. I really do hope that they join a good company. No one deserves to be treated that way.
Im really sorry that this happened also to the pretty girl in the video, i really feel like nobody should go through any of this. they're taking their human rights!!!
This is why true and loyal fans support *idols.* We are aware of how all them suffer every day. The industry is tough and shitty many times, but for what all the effort and sacrifices they do, the least we can do is to show our love and support in whatever ways that are on our reach.
Props to JYP for supporting Jisung with his anxiety issues and BigHit in general (get well soon, Suga!). I'm happy that these labels seem to take good care of their artists.
Bts is Lucky to have a company like bighit whose like a family Who also made bts each members a shareholder in thr company making them muliti millianare and bighit gave them vacations and many packages. Artist had to work hard all day no exception
There are even times for some idols wherein being sick is like a sin, people will ridicule them if they announced to have sickness, making fun of them and telling them that its time to leave the industry.
I believe BigHit takes good care of BTS and I am so happy they are under Big Hit labels. They take good care of our boys💜 It's just they just overwork to make ARMYs happy. Borahe💜
i love how she talks about how this happens in western countries too, not just in korea bc every kpop documentary is like 'omg look how harsh the conditions are these idols/trainees live in' when in reality this happens all over the world. I mean, yes, it is more prevalent in the kpop industry (this is refferring to how companies treat their artists btw), but it's not JUST kpop like western media likes to pretend
It's sad how Bighit entertainment CEO had to make a statement that artists should be treated as humans during his award acceptance speech.. that's how bad few agencies and netizens treat idols...
exactly...but its good that BTS TXT SEVENTEEN etc are under a really good company...not saying it does not have its flaws..but its a better company than others...also if I may include PNation is an amazing company
I'm so glad u watch and react to this Justin and Lala. That's how idols are and their lives are. They don't have easy lives. 😢😥 The culture plus the fame, disappointments and EVERYTHING. That's the dark reality in being a korean celebrity, specially being an idol. 😢😥 It make me feel so sad. 😢😥 By the way, I love u two!.. 🤗😘 It's really nice to see u together. 🤗😘
Whole LYS tour 2018-19 V performed 7 songs continuesly even being exhausted and fainted but he done it great whole tour with his skin problems ( health issue) without realizing army.. Never showing how much he suffer and how hard work he did it.. We just hope he's being healthy and next tour didn't having that big row of performance continue..
While it’s true that in western countries it’s easier now to be an independent artist, it doesn’t really hold true when it comes to Korea. Large companies have a huge amount of influence, enough that they are able to suppress independent and smaller agency idols/artists. The Korean music market is so saturated that independent singers with no money or influential connections have almost no chance of making it in the industry.
That's why we need to respect everyone in the industry (even out of the industry), everyone worked hard and sacrificed a lot to be where they are in now, in some point, and they are still working hard to maintain where they are. For us it seems nothing or what, but for them it's their dream, it's their life. So please, DON'T JUST HATE ON IDOLS (AND LITERALLY JUST EVERYONE!!!) WITHOUT REASONS. spread LOVE, not hate. Peace!
In my countries by birth artists don’t sign with agencies they work who ever they want . They also debut whenever they want and ready even sometimes in their 30’s and 40’s if they are talented they are welcomed and very respected. But unlike other country’s they don’t earn much .
Depends on the company, i think Bts have the best company, the split 50-50 , and if the performed outside off Korea bts get 70% and company 30% and the are free to use sociale platforms and there phones.
The points made in this video are very true... but there are exceptions. Like bighit (bts agency) doesn't have all these strict rules and i think that's also part of the reason why bts is so famous. They can have gfs but just won't reveal it publicly and they get paid well too in fact all the members have bought shares from the company and so they are partly the owners of the company themselves now. I do think they work too hard but the members themselves have said they do it as music is their passion and they can't live without working on music. And i am also glad now bts' bodyguards are not afraid of pushing the hell out of saesang fans when they try to get close to them. They also sue ppl when antis start spreading fake rumors about bts. I just hope they start suing internationally too. But yh becoming idols is really stressful.
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Lala I'm so sorry you have been through what you have. Im glad you are not in a contract (or at least a better oner?) Its very sad that this is a major part of their reality. I know you said that they don't need a agency but I think the music culture in Korea would be next to impossible. Other companies will pay to make shows and magazines to only put their artist in the spot light. Also want to mention that I feel there are more companies coming up that treat their artist better such as BigHit, PNation, and ZB. PNation even signed a couple that was kicked out of their previous company because they were dating.
Please react to Mamamoo-Aya!!!! This song is so addictive. they are soooo charisma and I really love how powerful they are as an individual! Plus their vocal are amazing! The way they deliver every song is sooo creative and different everytime! you won't regret to stan them!
The whole thing is so unfair I remember V saying there shouldn't be rules for idols The sad thing is they're under so much pressure that even if the company doesn't force them to do sth ,they still feel the obligation to do so in a very very young age And they overwork so much
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Like When I lived with my grandma she was really Judge mental and she I was really forcing me to be in side then I noticed I’m old enough to move out and when I move out I finally feel free to do whatever I want
I singing and I’m independent and it’s just me my boyfriend and my baby girl
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my time from jungkook definitely a stories about how he lost his childhood to be an artist
Yes but still he is a baby for big hit 😊😊
Ikr, the lyrice still make me cry and think about how rough these idols' lives are...being controlled by your company and fans 24/7...
@@Horanghae-yz2su he might still look like a baby but we all know he matured at a young age bcz he was an idol and faced such thing that normally teenagers won't be able to cope.
@@Khanquirat goes for most idols tbh.. a lot of them debut at such a young age to give up their childhood, some of them don’t even make it 😭 they really do go through shit, but those who are successful now can say they’ve worked hard 🤷🏻♀️
@@mewhen4959 ikr i feel so bad when you start diving into kpop you know how dark and ugly it is actually all forms of entertainment idols, models and actors everyone related to media suffers a lot
even under a good label fame is still taking away freedom
Suga lately talked about how he misses simple things in his life that he can't do now
From the 2018-19 docuseries: "You lose as much as you gain. You gain as much as you lose. For me, I lost the ordinary. That’s the biggest change. What that means is - what’s ordinary to others is very special to me, whereas what’s special to others is very ordinary to me. Then, before you know it, your set of values changes, the values with which you see the worlds."
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That's true.
At least he talked openly... That not only pressure from company... But himself and group self have the ego to reach and to give the best of his/yheir talent....
I think more than the label in that statement, he’s talking about the fame like you said. Things like fast food or a home cooked meal are very normal for me and it’s special when I go to a fancier restaurant. For Yoongi and many other idols, it’s the other way around. He can’t do things like get a home cooked meal from his parents very often. He can’t go to fast food even though it seems like such a simple thing, people would immediately recognize him. He can however go to fancy restaurants because he has the money for it and it’s probably the only food place that has privacy for celebrities. Their lives get turned upside down and backwards with fame. Like he said, the values completely change and you know what is truly important.
Thank you for this comment, it really made me think again and I hope someday they can get privacy and have families and love that they deserve 💜
@Eugene Ng True. Everyone will leave but not our Lord. He is always there for us. We need to seek Him truly, with our whole heart and He will deliver us from our pain. I have been there. I have experienced His loving hands guiding me out of darkness. He forgave me of my mistakes and gave me light. I found inner happiness and that's one of the biggest achievements in life. Every one seems happy but we are never really truly happy from inside. God provides that n it's a beautiful feeling!✨
Do you remember reacting to IU’s Eight? That song is actually dedicated to Sulli along with her other idol friends who had taken their life due to being an idol
Yes,He also reacted to it...
That gives me a whole new understanding of the line "so are you happy now, finally happy now" bitch I'm sobbing😭😭😭
this gave me goosebumps even if i already knew :((
Was it Jong-hyun?
@@jojostoenail2162 yes, jonghyun and sulli
I understand where Justin is coming from when he says, “You don’t have to do this anymore. Music is skill based and anyone can get big now ” but it seems like he’s coming from a very western perspective. Which isn’t necessarily a bad thing, but it kind of overlooks the struggles that POC face when breaking into the industry. How many Asian artists, who are not BTS or BlackPink or a group from a major Kpop label, has made it onto the Billboard Hot 100? I’m Asian American and I can only name a handful and most of them are Half-Asian and don’t talk about their Asian roots too often.
I think because of social media, there has been more visibility for new and upcoming artists, but I do think that race/nationality is still a factor. Look at BTS. The first song of theirs that made #1 on the billboard charts was a song written in English. They literally had one of the best selling albums worldwide in 2019 with Map of the Soul: Persona but most of the awards they received were for best social group or best Kpop group. They’re often snubbed for album of the year, etc. and that just goes to show how the west has not fully accepted Asian artists into its sphere.
This is all to say that sometimes signing with a label is the only option for these Kpop artists. Sometimes it is their only path to the “top.” It’s incredibly unfortunate and sad, but it seems like that is the reality. I think at the end of the day, the music industry just has to do better in protecting and taking care of their artists, so that their path to the top is safe and worthwhile.
Yea it's mostly because of xenophobia, racism and narrow mindedness of people that made them not to accept that these artists have already outperformed most artists in their country. It is true that music has no barrier but people still close their doors to these artists because they think everything only revolves around their country
thank you! you described their struggles perfectly!
@@krustykrab3377 facts 👍🏻
@SunnySideShar I second that 👍🏻👍🏻
Bet you don't know who romeo santo is? He has broken even Taylor swifts records he has sold and outsold he being doing us stadiums for yrs his songs have made it to bb 100 but he still doesn't get nominated with the Americans. Same goes with maluma, jbalvin, daddy yankee bad bunny to name a few.
The thing that I do like from big hit is that they dont say their idols cant date. They let the idol choose to date.
with P nation as well.. it is a pretty amazing entertainment with psy ( gagnam style) as thier CEO
@@yudhee3732 oh
@@yudhee3732 yup, I think PSY can relate to all those hardships that himself went through so he tries no to do the same to his artists
@@yaidelisgalvez5356 true :(
Didnt Rm say to big hit how do you expect us to write love songs without dating? Could have been a thumbnail clickbait. Im not an army though so this is an actual question.
The sad thing in kpop is that everyone has to be from a label/entertainment company to debut
Wait what :( ?!
Not really, you can even try your solo career alone and independently, but if it is someone who can only sing and not produce what s/he will do? And how will s/he be able to promote himself in weekly shows like "Inkigayo", "Mubank" ect or rather how will that person be able to be recognized in Kpop without having something that brings fans? Album sales?
CL wanted to be independent but she realized that without a Label she would not go anywhere...
I give you the example of a group that I really like (my fav rookie group aaah) that debuted on August 7, 2020 - *TREASURE* a new group from YG Entertainment, do you really think that if they were not premiered with the name of YG behind them they would be called "Global monster rookies"?
I don't say that they are called that because they are from YG but YG aka YG stans were the ones that helped them, the same for Winner, iKON and Blackpink they were all called "rookie monsters" and won Rookie of the year (ROTY) award.
The same for the new girl group of SM "Aespa" or for the new boy group of Bighit "Enhypen" the companies in the case of Kpop are the ones that help most in recognition that's why few try to make a career alone so they just wait years and years until they are chosen, and if they try we don’t even know because they are insignificant without a company, *sad but true*
That’s why when the company is very small and poor they sign an agreement with large channels to promote their groups like *1theK* most of these groups that are promoted at 1theK are groups with poor companies...BTS was promoted there before Bighit was a rich company
Edit: I'm back do give you all the example of Holland...as much as people love him (including me) if he didn’t have all that controversy with koreans for being gay almost nobody would know about him
@@QueenYangHyunsukyes, you're right
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Wait so you can't debut without it ?
@Angel Mijie Justin was talking about how now it's different now and people can debut without a company, it may be true in western countries but in Korea there's no chance of you debuting as a kpop idol without being in a company
I think this is where Big Hit is different from many other companies. They're changing the industry to not just care about the fans (customers), but actually care more about their singers. I've been into kpop for many years and I can already see differences. BUT, of course there is still a lot that needs to be fixed.
I agree is true that bh overworks BTS A LOT but when they have breaks they make sure no one is bothering them, and I feel like BTS are more than investments to Bang PD bcz they literally started from nothing and grew together until now
But they are not allowed to date!
@@whatthefk3093 they are, but I think it just becomes bothersome and extra worry if they publicly announce they’re dating (if that’s the case). As far as I know, the only company (from the big ones) that doesn’t allow dating is YG.
@@whatthefk3093 no I dont think so...they do not date themselves because of sasengs and all...and even if they do they do not publicly announce that because of the same reason
yes, it is way too different, examples are as we can see how they prioritize the members health. like again suga went under a surgery for his shoulder and he is not gonna participate in bts upcoming album release promos, this is not the first time suga didnt participate in bts promo activities he did that in save me era too, and in fire era in some award shows, he went under surgery that time too, thats one of the reasons many like bighit groups more, personally I am not a fan of kpop industry but bighit contracts are normal artist/company contracts. another example that even outside kpop or anywhere in the world u dont see companies that just hand out stocks to the artists and singers under them, bighit literally handed out shares to bts members and all of them are now share holders in company. cuz they are literally the main outcome of the company so they acknowledge that.
We just got told today that Yoongi, aka SUGA of BTS, finally had surgery for his shoulder that has been injured since 2012 - yes, 8 years of pain, physical therapy and injections later, he finally had his surgery on 3rd November. He dislocated it when he was hit by a car as a trainee and has suffered from it since with his ligament even being torn etc. We are super happy that he finally did the surgery and he is currently recovering but will not be taking part in their performances for their new album getting released on the 20th as he will be resting - AS HE SHOULD BE. 💜
BTS have recently however become key shareholders in their company and have also renewed their contacts which is definitely a big step and gives them even more of a say in their careers and lives which is amazing and something that they have worked so hard for and deserve. 💜
Wow, I scrolled a bit and I only see people recommending songs for them to react to, but this video is about the dangers of being a kpop idol and that's a serious topic
ikr
Literally what i was thinking about, it’s like some people don’t care of even acknowledge this topic , like pls, the WHOLE vid is about the dangers of being a kpop artist , so take this seriously instead of just commenting the songs that they should react to next.
Same as wester artist.
@@khouloudelkoumiri1918 exactly.
This is an important thing to think about
I think that's what makes BTS' recent contract renegotiations, and BigHit giving each member a significant number of shares in the company, such an important step... hopefully in the right direction. A company like BigHit can't help but realize that a group of artists single handedly changed the trajectory of their entire company, and it forces them to acknowledge their artists in a different way. They aren't perfect, they're still a company who's survival is dependent on having a consistent revenue stream, but they must be doing something right for a group like BTS to choose to re-sign with them. Hopefully, the financial successes they've achieved while treating their artists better than most companies will act as motivation for other companies in the future.... Also, if I never write the word company again it will be too soon. OOF!
Companies are created ,like big hit not only to entertain us but also to compete with others. Its a market where the first get more than others. Im not saying that bts are not treated properly. But, the reason for what they are doing is to make the business successful. They can say love yourself, sing for those dead children who were in the boat, ect... but is it really to give a powerful message only? Or they strategically did it to touch the heart of many, get a lot of attention then gain more money?. Bts dont even have break, why do they have to be filmed everywhere?? In their vacancy, when they went to europe? Its to get more attention, to make people look for them, hunt them, to know that they were, in this restaurant, to know xyz and then get the revenue from it.
Im only talking about BTS
Disclaimer: i dont know them, i see only the perspective through my phone
I know BTS is awesome but they dont have any freedom. They are just like the other companies, they get maltreated like the other companies. Ect..
Sorry for my bad english. Its my 3rd language
Why everyone keep making these paragraphs bruh
@@levynkhs8820 I am only pointing out BTS, because it was stated in the video that they are known to be treated better by BigHit than a lot of artists from other companies. They were the only active group BigHit had, so their financial success was entirely invested in BTS. They had to treat them well to be successful, because they didn't have any other artists to fall back on. Now they're so big that the company still can't afford to lose them, so the continue to treat them fairly well by comparison to other companies. Also, the cameras on them during their vacation weren't talking about the company filming them. It was saying that even when they go on vacation strangers film them, follow them, etc. They didn't share where they were going, they didn't post about where they were. They tried to have quiet vacations, and some were actually successful. Others were found anyway and filmed without their consent. And yes, they do their jobs in a way that makes them money (both company and artists). That's what a job is. Most of us wouldn't be doing the jobs we do if we weren't getting paid for it. Thats the nature of the world we live in.
@@tinylumberjack1353 man you are so on point. Cant deny it
@@levynkhs8820 the thing is that you don't have to write songs about self love or deep topics to make it big, just take a look at the songs at the top of charts. Besides, BTS has always sung about what they feel is close to their heart and mind, it's not that they started to write about self confidence/love just now, they debuted having members in the songs credits and, in fact, when they started to release more shallow-ish songs it's when they got more attention from the public.
Thus, you are wrong there, mate, at least with BTS, they are different from whatever you have thought a both commercially successfull and critically acclaimed artist is.
The only thing I think is worth it for becoming a Kpop idol is the love and support you get from true fans the support that your family gives you putting out music and art for people to love and to hear your message through the music and also if you have a good company like BTS
Yes
Yeah but saddly that doesn't last much, bcz those fans who love u, think of u as an object ,in the moment you say or do something they don't like and they love will become hate in seconds
Yaidelis Galvez Exactly, They criticize if you are dating, if you have done plastic surgery and the thing is leaked, if you don't do something correctly and do some minormistakes though Idols are also humans.
@@blinkforever4666 yes, I totally respect them for pursuing their dreams and giving all of them but is it really worth it , most of those fans will get bored of them or the "they have changed" like happened w tae, people need to understand that they're human who suffer and get tired as well as we do, and fans still get mad when they date someone, like can you think for a minute how lonely they're lives are, they see they're families once in a month and even if they have the members they get tired of them too, bcz sometimes you just one space and privacy, being a celebrity takes more than talent, beauty or money everything is about sacrifice, some give up their childhood, privacy, their happiness for their dreams and they're never really respected for that
@@yaidelisgalvez5356 when I said the fans who love u I was talking about the true fans who see idols for who they are and support them for who they are the ones that don’t judge or Juno to conclusions about things they hear and the ones who don’t care what idols dating who or what idol was in a relationship with what idol
But like with the whole Chen getting married thing back in the beginning of the year that was just stupid of people to request that he leave EXO just bc he was getting married and he had a baby in the way like people he’s a grown ass man who found his soul mate and if he wants to marry her and start a family with her than that’s perfectly fine like just support him
A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ROSE:
The Rose is a pop-rock band that consists of four members: (from left to right 15:20) Dojoon, Woosung, Jaehyeong, and Hajoon. The group was formed under J&Star Ent. and they debuted on August 3, 2017 with their single “Sorry”. They decide to terminate their contract in February 2020, after not being paid since debut. It is honestly really sad how they were so overworked yet they weren’t paid a cent for their talent. I truly hope they are able to release new music as soon as they can because they’re very very talented. Please check out Black Rose, it is a very touching song they made for their fandom as they were in the process of leaving their agency. I’m not sure how the legal process is going but as far as I know they aren’t disbanding. Although I do know that one of the members left to do mandatory military service on the 6th of July. They need all the support they can get so I hope anyone reading this will consider supporting them!!! #WeStandWithTheRose #BlackRose
Yes please support them and give Black Rose a listen on youtube!!! It's almost at 1M views now #WeStandWithTheRose #BlackRose
Unfortunately they were actually unable to terminate their contract as they lost the lawsuit against the company, despite all the evidence/paper trails they had, which honestly is not surprising given the way things work with ent. companies and lawsuits over there.
Black Rose was taken down from all music streaming sites except their own youtube channel and they are stuck under contract with J&Star Ent. for now.
"Apparently" the the company wants to come to an "amicable" agreement with the band. In the meantime, they were only able to get by by busking and now all the members except Woosung have either already enlisted (Dojoon in July and Hajoon in October) or probably will soon (as Jaehyeong is only few months younger). Woosung/Sammy is American so I believe he doesn't have to but he can't really do anything else while he's stuck in the company.
Hopefully with enough support they will be able to return to making music one day when they finally manage to return once their contract is ended ❤️
Will do !
@@seashell1602 Thank you for the additional information! I truly hope The Rose will one day be able to leave and make their own music
That is cruel they didn't got laid for whole 3 years
I hate when people call them “fans” like bruh they arent fans if they try to kill or hurt or even criticize the singer like bruh
Ikr!? People need to be more respectful
Dating is allowed for so many companies... Bts was never banned from dating.. Its just they are keeping it private and secret for the security
I see it in Jihyo’s eyes every. single. time. she does her job. I cant see EVERYTHING she’s sacrificed, everything she’s been through. I truly believe she is the strongest woman in kpop. Then you think about how people have been commenting on her weight and appearance for years. I know we joke about Jihyo’s dancing like “Damn Jihyo rent is not due tomorrow,” but she dances with so much energy and passion because it’s what she lives for. It’s what she was made to do and what she’s been preparing for for her entire life. The years she had to herself weren’t many: 8 years total, she’s 23. Her childhood wasn’t long and being in the industry for so long, she grew up so fast and had to be accustomed to the hate. She is such a strong woman and I wish more people appreciated our leader because she’s also a role model to the group. The respect they hold for her is insurmountable and she will ALWAYS remain my bias.
#godjihyo 🧡
Yeah srsly.....whenever I think about jihyo it makes me sad about how she invested her entire childhood into being an idol and then the ppl say she's fat like damn....wtf😑😑😑
exactly, she's so strong that's the actual reason why she's my ultimate bias
@@joystv50 me too! 🥺
It's really sad that fans feel entitled to controlling their favorite singers' lives. Hopefully more idols can date in public. Also, please react to Taemin's song "Criminal"!
Yes please react to Criminal by Taemin!!! It’s incredible🔥🔥🔥💗
Criminal is a masterpiece 🔥
Dude this is a serious topic and you're recommending a song
@@runotehilla9276 can they not discuss more than one topic at once?
@@everythingemzy1219 yes but will it hurt to not recommend songs for once? It's a serious topic geez.
Does anyone here have any sign of respect or manners? Dont you realise that this isnt the type of video to comment recomandations on for reactions. Littarly just look at Justin's face when they talk about Sulli but all you guys seem to care about is what video he reacts to next. You would think that people who watch MV's with subtitles would know how to read the room jeez...
people are toxic in the comment section here or senseless or heartless
I was going to say the same thing then I found your comment. I'm disgusted by the comments of people asking for reactions when the video is a serious and sad matter
spoke nothing but facts 😴👏🏼
The saddest thing is that kpop agencies dont give a chance to smaller artist. They even sabotage them just so their idols can have a better chance. These idols don't really stand a chance to follow their dreams if they don't sign to these agencies.😞
It is sad, the entertainment industry is really a dark and terrible place. There are good things that come out of it but in my opinion a lot of it isn't worth all the harm and damage it causes.
@@oliviat6208 The problem it's not just in Korea, the entertainment industry every where is horrible.
@@punkrockpixiegirl Yes, I just specifically said kpop because it was about kpop. But you are right, all entertainment agencies everywhere have gotten really bad.
@@oliviat6208 I was just pointing it out because they did talk about it a little bit in the video, that America isn't much better. Like I get that the video was about kpop, but I just think it needs to change everywhere.
@@punkrockpixiegirl I agree, it should be more about reaching you dreams and having fun along the way then what it has turned into now. I think they shouldn't have turned it into what it is today because it is terrible.
Thanks for reacting to this! I think that not everyone realizes that their worlds aren't just sunshine and rainbow but there is a different side aswell.
Yup, now you two know what an insane industry it is, that K-pop.
Love your voice and your reactions btw.
(In justin style and the deep tone)Peace! ✌🏻
It should be said bighit (bts and txt ) is a company that is exception in alot of the rules companies impose on their idols.
Kpop idols go through so much.
They try not show their bad sides.
They try to perfect something that's already perfect.
They work so hard making themselves hurt to make another person happy.
They cry. THEY. ARE. HUMANS.
They go through so much hate that they do not deserve.
Some idols don't even get paid. The Rose for example that band I LOVE THAT BAND and when I found out that they hadn't been paid I was very very angry.
Kpop idols also go through a tough time with their parents not supporting them at all.
Suga for example he didn't receive support and when he saw his parents at a concert he had got down and cried.
These idols starve themselves.
It's not all smiles and happiness.
It's stress. Worried. Scared. Frustrated. Angry. And hurt also.
This is why fans TRUE FANS care and are very overprotective sometimes for their idols because they don't want their idols to go through any more.
Hope people would see and know everything about kpop.
I am glad you two listened to the dark sides of the world, while there is good there will be bad. We just feel so much for celebrities but we should know what they need and want too. A normal life to relax and not be around cameras attention 24/7🤓
I really appreciated Lala's first hand experience being shared here. It's more often and public that this happens in Korea's idol industry but we must remember that this happens everywhere in the world including other industries other than music.
it's so sobering to know what some of my favorite Kpop artists have to go through. Lots of love and prayers❤💕💕🙌🙌
BlackPink Jennie has it tough ever since she debuted. She was sent to study aboard at the age of 9 alone. She went straight to the dorms from NZ after getting accepted to YGE at the age of 14. Only last year she got out of dorms and in now living with her mom. She said that she missed out so much time with her parents and that she wishes she got to experience High School. She has been getting bullied since predebut till now. She also mentioned that her mom said Jennie was born with a weak body. Jennie said that she is the grandma of the group because and gets sick and hurt easily. It’s sad that she is the 2nd most hated Kpop artist after Sulli. I am always worried for her.
Acually she is the Most hated kpop idol in the hole idustry 😪😥😭😭 if u serch on google on every site she is first. I Am Crying now 😭😭😭
i don't get it why people hate innocent person instead of bad person .. stupid people
Some agenicies don't allow dating, and some allow it after a specific period(like JYP) but there are some obsessive fans who verbally abuse and bully the idols' boy or girlfriend(idol or non-idol) to the point where they breakup. A lot of idoos want to be parents, want love and all that, but can't because of jealousy
Man I feel bad for kpop idols
The depression, stress and the mentality they are facing in such a young age.
I really appreciate these guys
I’m so thankful for Big Hit because although they are not perfect- at least they have some humanity in them.
Being an Idol trainee is expensive, you have to pay the company back once you debut which would take years. If you don’t debut, you just wasted a lot of money. It takes Idols months and sometimes years to pay back the company.
Big Hit surprised me when I found out they do it for free. Big hit Trainees don’t have to worry about paying back bc the company doesn’t ask them to.
From the data I’ve seen Big Hit and YG are the best paying companies. The data included how these companies distribute the money the group earns. Which is why YG Idols are known to be rich like GD and blackpink etc.
Bang PD also talks to the group especially the leader to see what’s in their mind and etc. Which is why BTS are closer to him and TXT are so grateful to him. He definitely isn’t perfect, but he knows that these idols work hard, hence why he started Big Hit in the first place. Music and Artist for Healing that targets the wellbeing of both fans and idols.
Have you ever wondered why BTS and TXT are given concepts that make them so human and not “God” like?
The thing is though, in Korea, artists don’t blow up very much without a company. Issues are even worse than the video says. At least three artists have commit suicide in the past two years in KPoP. Many artists collapse on stage or collapse right after coming off. BTS comes off stage and they collapse, needing oxygen and fanned. Small Injuries and accidents are treated like one would a car accident here in the US. Many artists overwork (BTS was working 12-16 hours a day) and go on unhealthy diets (Jimin). Luckily, some of the agencies are really great. BigHit CEO BangPD cares for BTS like they are his children. He wants them to do well but to do well healthily. BigHit artists are taken care of even if they work themselves into exhaustion (personal drive to do exceptional exacerbates already tiring circumstances) and BigHit also has adopted a zero tolerance for people spreading malicious rumors and misinformation about the groups and take all seriously, meeting it with legal action, no matter how old you are. Not many companies do this though. Especially the big companies.
Well, BTS are known to the world, BH earns a lot of money, obviously he has to take care of them otherwise I think the guys would go away and they would surely manage without the agency.
Thank you for reacting to this. Knowing the dangers of Kpop now as a Kpop fan it really makes me appreciate the groups I like even more. For me, it's BTS, and Blackpink their the only one who has captured my heart. But I know every Kpop idol goes through really hard things to be where they are now. i hope this industry becomes much nicer and people become nicer. Again thank you to reacting to this it really shows how much you care will add another depth and appreciation to the Kpop idols you react to.
When I first got into K-pop about 2 and half years ago, I was so distracted by the glitz and glam of it all that I never really payed attention to what happens behind the scenes. The longer you are a K-pop fan, the worse it becomes in your eyes. But thankfully, since K-pop has been getting so much attention in the last 5 years or so, things have gotten immensely more ethical. With everything being shared so quickly, companies have to be more careful and actually think about their artist. Hopefully, things will continue to move into the right direction.
Thank you both. Honestly what y’all said I *felt that* I support and love these artists and groups with all my heart but at the same time *I feel* for them cause of what they *really* have to go through. It’s just really sad and seriously makes me want to hug them all and just fight there battles for them if I could smh.
The things Jungkook went through 😖
My time explains it all
what has he been through?
@@ewelinakoek6630 as he debuted at like around 16) he went through his whole puberty being judged by everyone and also the public people back then didn't really treat BTS well, they looked down on them and blabla....and they weren't really allowed to meet their parents on their rookie days 😩
I've been waiting for Justin's ‘From Home’ reaction because it's such a vocally powerful song
Sameeeee
Thank you for watching this video. It brings more attention to how difficult life is for idols
No dating is often in there contracts so yes literally no dating allowed..
honestly, this video talks about such an important topic, yet all you all are talking about is the most irrelevant stuff ever. be more considerate, lala even opened up about her past? be more respectful, plz.
edit; lala, babe, you're so strong for this! you're so amazing and strong and im so proud of you for overcoming it ❤
And the sad thing is, this video barely even covered everything kpop idols have to go through
JUNGKOOK : EVERY DAY AND EVERY NIGHT I TRY TO MAKE U STAY BUT UR ...
THE WORLD : WHO IS THE BEST SINGER IN THE WORLD ?
ME : (...)
Now that I have seen an even deeper meaning behind kpop idols and the commitment that they go through, I respectful them all so so so much and I think we should all respect idols and give them there space when needed and not disrespect there boundaries, and us kpop fans should stick together!!!
I'm glad y'all brought up how relatable this is because a lot of people think it's just a problem in kpop. When in reality these manipulative music contracts happen everywhere, I mean look at what Taylor Swift is going through 😔
This is just sad. Dating is considered as a "scandal"
Watching this on the dark side of kpop I can't help but now watch these artists and just not look at them the same way and imagine what they are going through to give us good music and put their fans in mind cause they've been through a lot to become this pink like the most recognized, blackpink, bts, exo, nct and so on..
this remind of that suga just went under a surgery for his shoulder and he is not gonna participate in bts upcoming album release promotions, big hit always prioritize the members health. even if it means a member sitting out from the whole promo season, this is not the first time suga didnt participate in bts promo activities he did that in save me era too, and in fire era in some award shows, he went under surgery that time too, thats one of the reasons many like bighit groups more, personally I am not a fan of kpop industry but bighit contracts are normal artist/company contracts.
When I became a fan 7 years ago, how I interpreted the darkside of Kpop and how fans think is that these people we love so much are not Celebrities, but Idols. Idol's that have to be perfect in everything, flawless in their appearance, put onto pedestals for people to obsess over and worship, with a public private life and ultimately not for themselves, but for us. The last part also applies to their dating life. Having an idol dating would ruin their perfect 'Idol' image, but it is because of this preconcieved notion of what an idol is meant to be, dating illicits a strong reaction from fans that look upon it in disdain. It's very sad to think that idols will never truly be happy in that regard until we get rid of the idea of 'The Perfect Kpop Idol' standard
When I saw Jungkook picture I click on the video quickly💞
Same u ain't alone
Same here
Well first I wanted to mention that the idea that someone starts to be a trainee from a young age it's not a big deal, I mean any person that wants to be an athlete (in any sports), or that paly instruments, singers and dancers they all start from young ages if they want to reach the highest performance. Their life revolves around their art, and they can't take long breaks because they will become worst at what they do, in order to keep your level and become better you can't stop. I remembered when all the children around me were on holiday or vacation I was not because I had training 4-6-8 hours a day (depending), no summer vacation no nothing... and from when I was 8 I moved to another town alone living at boarding school because it was the place where the gymnasts that were training for the Olympics trained, and it was the place where the best of the best were. Being a k-pop star is no different, they train from a young age to get where they are and they have to sacrifice a lot to get there.
As for the contracts... they are strict depending on the company, their original format the old type of contracts and training were taken after the Japanese idol program, but lately, the Korean companies became better and more understanding. The contracts are work contracts and they require the artist to be strict with themselves in order to keep them in check ( we saw American kid/teen stars getting famous and money and rolling off the deep end), some forbid idols to date for the first period of time of the contract and some forbid them to date until they reach a certain age, but since it's a serious contract they have to respect the rules. The Kpop industry is not the only one overworking their people all Asian companies are no matter the country, they have a huge culture of work and they tend to overdo it, that is why a lot of people die annually of exhaustion, or you can see people just sleeping on the streets, trains and other public places because they are exhausted this is a culture thing, not a Kpop thing.
Yeah being a kpop idol aint easy man.
Speaking of dangers, another somewhat relevant (at least for you Justin) topic of dangers kpop idols is likely to experience in the future is - vocal decay. A topic which, sadly, is very much ignored. The majority of korean entertainment companies doesn't teach/prioritize vocal technique for their trainees/kpop idols. As a matter of fact, a good part of those companies even motivate/force the idols to choose and use damaging styles/uniqueness over the healthier ways to approach singing.
I've been following kpop for almost a decade now and I can't say I haven't witnessed a lot of idols regress vocally over the years. I've witnessed idols that sang better in their pre-debut days compared to their after-debut days. I've also witnessed idols, who've stated so themselves how the vocal trainers at their label made and some has even forced them sing worse. Some of those idols even went out of their way to find new vocal coaches that weren't connected to their company (e.g. Suhyun from AKMU).
You could argue with the fact that some idols are just too busy, but if they really want to, they can do it can't they? Especially those who's already made it big. The problem is the majority of kpop idols don't really know what really involves into getting good at singing. I can only imagine how some of the big kpop vocalists we know of atm will sound in the future if they continue this way:(
That doesn't mean the entire kpop industry is doomed. I've seen groups like Mamamoo, most of the vocalists in SM entertainment, and a few individuals (mainly main vocalists like Eunji, Yuju etc) from other smaller companies that knows and manages to prioritize their vocals.
Ouff I ranted too much, but I just wanted to shed some light on this esp since you're a vocal coach and all. The SK entertainment industry seriously needs more vocal coaches like you Justin :.) btw there's a whole thread on this on reddit called 'Vocal training in Kpop' if you're interested.
*_*Lastly, uh, could you check out the band ONEWE?*_*
It's the brother group of ONEUS. I got quite invested into ONEWE because of their main vocalist Yonghoon. Yonghoon got invited into the band by the drummer after they met in a kpop contest Yonghoon was competing in (and ended up winning lmao), and the rest were playing as a session band for. He's got a quite dark tone for a main vocalist in kpop (I've been speculating on how he's maybe a lyric baritone), but the best of all **his technique is top tier.**
They're severly underrated, but I hope it doesn't stop you from reacting to them. I highly recommend watching at least their song 'Regulus' if you're only watching one song. 'Regulus' showcases Yonghoon's vocals and range, as well as the quality of the band the best:) For a live singing video I recommend their song 'Parting', the Vocals Only Live from 1TheK or the Acoustic Ver. on their channel.
If you came this far, thanks for reading my ridicuously long comment. Keep up the good work! :.)
THIS!!! I also hate that some fans forget the fact some of our idols don’t get proper treatment regarding their vocals, there is this one group but I ain’t gonna say who lol, even though their company is already big, they had improvements but some members got worse overtime which makes me sad... and sometimes when they release songs, some members have to sing out of their comfortable range which also kinda bothers me but I don’t know why some fans don’t see it, I hope fans will take it seriously how there is a chance our favorite singers could lose their voice in maybe 2-3 years
@@ro-qo2ht Yes I totally agree. Though, I would say ever since the topic of K-pop vocals has come to light the past few years theres a lot more fans today that knows about this topic, but chooses to turn a blind eye to it. Even when their favorite K-pop idol notice it themselves, and is quite clear of/frustrated with their lack in vocal delivery, those fans brush it under the rug and resorts to comments like how perfect they already are and how they don't need to do anything. Not properly taking their idols concerns into account.
Losing their voice in 2-3 years is maybe a bit of an exaggeration xD Something more likely is the probability of regression to the point they can't hit certain notes as well as they did before.
The moment when the idol sings their iconic songs and struggles to the point that they mess it up is probably the most heartbreaking thing that can happen for both the artist and the fan.:(
Eun yeah the time scale of mine seems a bit exaggerated lol but I wouldn’t be surprised for some, it’s sad that some fans only care about what sounds good but not what’s actually good for the idols, which makes me sad as a fan who appreciates the vocals and musicality there is in Kpop which seems to be easily overlooked by most of fans, hays, hopefully there’ll be a day that fans realise there is more to their performing and there are struggles that we just choose to ignore
i can say that the way k pop idols live and handle their lives are way different then they were a few years ago. You can tell that idols and trainees now have better treatment and living space when they were back then. Like how Big hit was such a small company barely providing the best healthy choice of living like where to sleep and such. Now they're much better and etc.
Jungkooks best vocal 👌👌🥇
YES
بالطبع💜💜💜
Yes of course
YES
What?
There’s a podcast called “Get Real” by DIVE Studios. The hosts are idols (BM from KARD, Peniel from BTOB and Ashley Choi, former member of Ladies Code). All of them were born in the US, so they have interesting perspectives about the industry. And the podcast is in English.
In some episodes they’ve talked about issues like impossible (and stupid) beauty standards, losing creativity because often their management give groups the songs they are have in the next album, debut stuff, etc.
I highly recommend watching this podcast, because like its name says, they try to “get real” about things related to Kpop. I actually recommend to watch all of DIVE Studios podcasts. They give us some insight about the Kpop world and Korean entertainment industry from English speaking artists, like Eric Nam, Tablo, Jae (Day6), AleXa, Sam Hamminton (comedian 🇦🇺) and others.
😅😍👌🏼
I don't get sasaengs though aren't idols just human that accomplished their dreams? What's much of that? Do they have to do all of that to make idols feel insecure, hospitalized and much more? I get that you are obsessed with them but there is always a limit and they shouldn't cross that line
Idk; for me, I feel like sasaengs want a 'way' for them to be recognized, whether it's good or bad. Like imagine being an idol, and a sasaeng breaks into your hotel room and take your things and even left a disturbing message behind, and the thought that they're going to be remembered by you only makes them think that you notice them.
@@pasteldaydream2979 well yeah I get that but I think they still have their limits because at last they are just human with dreams and they have their own privacy. I am an Army and there was once Yoongi aka Suga said that he would want sasaengs to respect his privacy
@@nicolewong9780 I don't think sasaengs know the word 'limit,' and if they do, they will stop. From what I see, I don't think they will because sasaengs for me feel like they have this thought that idols are more than humans. I know Yoongi likes his personal space because that's what he has control over, and he dislikes people coming near him because I remember him having social anxiety in large open crowds.
What is saesang?
@@ryujin3713 sasaeng means 'stalker' in Korean
The Rose, I think they left their label by now (I don't know the whole thing so...) and 2 out of 4 members are enlisted now. So I think in 2 years they will either go independent or sign into another agency and then we'll get to enjoy their music again for sure. I think BTS is really lucky with Bighit, I mean, they are not perfect as a company, but they are not the worst either, otherwise they wouldn't have signed another 7 years.
Unfortunately no the Rose wasn't able to leave their company despite trying to, the company won the lawsuit so they weren't able to break the contract. Fingers crossed they manage to come to an agreement with the company to leave before their enlistments are up so that they still have a chance to make music freely. In the meantime, the only thing we can do is support them and stream their independent song Black Rose on youtube (as it was taken down everywhere else) and keep promoting them on social media even while they're not active.
Since you were shocked about The Rose, The Rose never got paid and tried to sue the company, but lost the trial and now they are in a difficult situation. They are all going to the military now though. 🖤🥀
@A_tiny_San I know... it’s because Stone Music is such a big company and 4 people vs a whole company has an obvious winner. I hate Stone Music.
@A_tiny_San yeah. They are all serving in the military and Woosung is back in LA, but they said that they’ll come back afterwards. I really do hope that they join a good company. No one deserves to be treated that way.
Once jimin was getting death threats that time jin wore same clothes as jimin to confuse the killer and save jimin
That was something fans made up and went viral.
@@mavel2038 really? I am a new ARMY that's why
this is fake
@@mavel2038 I also believed that jeez😒
Im really sorry that this happened also to the pretty girl in the video, i really feel like nobody should go through any of this. they're taking their human rights!!!
Having everything is almost as bad as having nothing.
Some companys have no dating, Bts company dont have that rule
This is why true and loyal fans support *idols.* We are aware of how all them suffer every day. The industry is tough and shitty many times, but for what all the effort and sacrifices they do, the least we can do is to show our love and support in whatever ways that are on our reach.
Props to JYP for supporting Jisung with his anxiety issues and BigHit in general (get well soon, Suga!).
I'm happy that these labels seem to take good care of their artists.
So nice to see you guys react to this😍
Love both of your transparency about the dark side of the music industry. I have been doing your Singr program day by day :)!
By the way, dating is allowed in SM, JYP, BIGHIT, PNATION and many more labels.There are many idols now who are publicly dating.
Bts is Lucky to have a company like bighit whose like a family
Who also made bts each members a shareholder in thr company making them muliti millianare and bighit gave them vacations and many packages.
Artist had to work hard all day no exception
There are even times for some idols wherein being sick is like a sin, people will ridicule them if they announced to have sickness, making fun of them and telling them that its time to leave the industry.
The things I want to achieve is impossible for me, there’s no way I’ll ever be who I want to be, have what I’ve always dreamed of.
Jungkook is the best
I believe BigHit takes good care of BTS and I am so happy they are under Big Hit labels. They take good care of our boys💜 It's just they just overwork to make ARMYs happy. Borahe💜
pls react to Twice "I can't stop me" the background vocals are on point!
i love how she talks about how this happens in western countries too, not just in korea bc every kpop documentary is like 'omg look how harsh the conditions are these idols/trainees live in' when in reality this happens all over the world. I mean, yes, it is more prevalent in the kpop industry (this is refferring to how companies treat their artists btw), but it's not JUST kpop like western media likes to pretend
0:42 OH GOD WHAT A BEAUTIFUL VOICE, I LOVE IT
Jungkook best vocalist 😌💜
It's sad how Bighit entertainment CEO had to make a statement that artists should be treated as humans during his award acceptance speech.. that's how bad few agencies and netizens treat idols...
exactly...but its good that BTS TXT SEVENTEEN etc are under a really good company...not saying it does not have its flaws..but its a better company than others...also if I may include PNation is an amazing company
@@mehrchhabda4611 SVT was mismanaged by Pledis for years.. now that Bighit took over I hope they are treated well..
Such a good and respectful reaction love you both
Not allowing dating is some BS, it reminded me of Cube Entertainment issue with E-Dawn and Hyuna. Well atleast they're happy with each other now
Can’t wait for this reaction! Love to see Lala on the channel as well! Also btw Justin, she NEEDS to see MAMAMOO.
Let’s say the name of a MAMAMOOO song we think she should react to and see if we say the same one
@@libbykaras what if I have multiple 😂
I'm so glad u watch and react to this Justin and Lala. That's how idols are and their lives are. They don't have easy lives. 😢😥 The culture plus the fame, disappointments and EVERYTHING. That's the dark reality in being a korean celebrity, specially being an idol. 😢😥 It make me feel so sad. 😢😥 By the way, I love u two!.. 🤗😘 It's really nice to see u together. 🤗😘
ROSÉ 🌹
THE BEST VOICE OF BLACKPINK.
Idols have really stressful job. I hope they get through.
Your videos are full of great content. I like hearing your opinions on things on more than reactions :)
That's why big hit is a very different company , they give to bts a lot of freedom , and take care of them.
A lot criticize Vocal, Rosie, even though her pitches are very rare and take you far away, I didn't have a voice like Rosie's voice.
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Whole LYS tour 2018-19 V performed 7 songs continuesly even being exhausted and fainted but he done it great whole tour with his skin problems ( health issue) without realizing army..
Never showing how much he suffer and how hard work he did it..
We just hope he's being healthy and next tour didn't having that big row of performance continue..
While it’s true that in western countries it’s easier now to be an independent artist, it doesn’t really hold true when it comes to Korea. Large companies have a huge amount of influence, enough that they are able to suppress independent and smaller agency idols/artists. The Korean music market is so saturated that independent singers with no money or influential connections have almost no chance of making it in the industry.
That's why we need to respect everyone in the industry (even out of the industry), everyone worked hard and sacrificed a lot to be where they are in now, in some point, and they are still working hard to maintain where they are. For us it seems nothing or what, but for them it's their dream, it's their life. So please, DON'T JUST HATE ON IDOLS (AND LITERALLY JUST EVERYONE!!!) WITHOUT REASONS. spread LOVE, not hate. Peace!
In my countries by birth artists don’t sign with agencies they work who ever they want . They also debut whenever they want and ready even sometimes in their 30’s and 40’s if they are talented they are welcomed and very respected. But unlike other country’s they don’t earn much .
You guys are so good 🤯
I love you both for what you are doing ❤️
Blinks BLINKSS we live kpop groups and dont hate others but let's vote for blackpink and show love love love . Vote cmon beauts
Depends on the company, i think Bts have the best company, the split 50-50 , and if the performed outside off Korea bts get 70% and company 30% and the are free to use sociale platforms and there phones.
Please react to TXT yeojun's "Song Cry" you'll love it. His vocals are on another level
You should react to taaron ke sheher . It's a Bollywood song
The points made in this video are very true... but there are exceptions. Like bighit (bts agency) doesn't have all these strict rules and i think that's also part of the reason why bts is so famous. They can have gfs but just won't reveal it publicly and they get paid well too in fact all the members have bought shares from the company and so they are partly the owners of the company themselves now. I do think they work too hard but the members themselves have said they do it as music is their passion and they can't live without working on music. And i am also glad now bts' bodyguards are not afraid of pushing the hell out of saesang fans when they try to get close to them. They also sue ppl when antis start spreading fake rumors about bts. I just hope they start suing internationally too. But yh becoming idols is really stressful.
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Kim Junkyu (Treasure) Better cover:
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NCT 127 No Longer:
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Lala I'm so sorry you have been through what you have. Im glad you are not in a contract (or at least a better oner?)
Its very sad that this is a major part of their reality. I know you said that they don't need a agency but I think the music culture in Korea would be next to impossible. Other companies will pay to make shows and magazines to only put their artist in the spot light. Also want to mention that I feel there are more companies coming up that treat their artist better such as BigHit, PNation, and ZB. PNation even signed a couple that was kicked out of their previous company because they were dating.
Please react to Mamamoo-Aya!!!! This song is so addictive. they are soooo charisma and I really love how powerful they are as an individual!
Plus their vocal are amazing!
The way they deliver every song is sooo creative and different everytime! you won't regret to stan them!
The whole thing is so unfair
I remember V saying there shouldn't be rules for idols
The sad thing is they're under so much pressure that even if the company doesn't force them to do sth ,they still feel the obligation to do so in a very very young age
And they overwork so much
You NEED to react to Yoo Hweseung (유 회승)!! If you look up "Yoo Hweseung Immortal Songs 2" there will be a lot of performances or "N.Flying" is the band he is in, but you HAVE to watch him perform live. He is one of the best vocalists I have ever heard!!
She has a beautiful voice