Why the Jaguar C-X75 was too good for us
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ม.ค. 2019
- We all think of the current hypercar ‘holy trinity’ as the McLaren P1, Porsche 918 and LaFerrari. But back in 2010, Jaguar started work on a car that would have shown those cars a thing or two.
The Jaguar C-X75 was an F1-engined hybrid hypercar well before the other manufacturers caught up. But sadly, we never saw the car take to production. We investigated just how epic this car could have been if it had made it over the line.
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Jaguar missed out by not making this car
@Matt S well... They certainly make some appealing cars, but have you read the news recently? Falling sales, job losses, planned shut-downs... Not a good time for JLR.
Sure...after the roaring success of the XJ220 project that went soooo well... Concept building has a purpose but going to production would have been a real mess for Jaguar. Everyone woo's for the concept and when production realities are imposed, the first pre-order buyers are pissed and the order cancellations commence. Remember, the F1 was not successful in production either and is rare like the XJ220 because, they did not sale.
It's a 4 banger hybrid. I am not saying it would not sell a few units, but it was not going to be some huge profit center for the company.
B G that describes any time in jaguars history
I'm sure that "Phantom replica" makes this car 5 times cheaper
@Pink Guy that's 99.9% of cars today since they all have so many electronics.
ITS NOT TOO LATE JAGGGGG
And imagine the lessons learnt and new tech that could feed back into it now to make it even better!
Concept car and production is not the same. It will never be profitable to make.
@@grecoconduris6716 riigghhht💣
@@campkira It can be but not with Jag currently. Not anymore.
It is. Jag is dying.
The design has aged well. Beauty.
Michael Burns it could probably come out today and still look great
It really has
absolutely, they ought to update it and get it on sale
"Aged well" is perfectly apt, but is an understatement.
Michael Burns more time needs to pass before that can be assessed. Like 10-20 years
It was at this point jaguar knew they f’ed up.... this is a huge shame
thedownshiftchannel damn jaguar let this slip
Lol😂😂! Exactly!
It could come back as a halo car
sounds like they had no choice though.
Oh well
The styling and performance are easily good enough for it to go into production today.
Doest looks like its been designed 10 years back... Its still look awesome
Absolutely.
it's 2022 and the design still ages beautifully!
Lowkey kinda outdated now so they’d have to modernize a few things like the front bumper and maybe diffuser
@@LeCumminznope still timeless
nobody's even gonna mention the insane air time??????? That was epic.
That was sick!!!
Took it like a champ too
Yeah, garbage. Shit for downforce.
I'm pretty sure it wasn't real... It looked like CGI
i watched it several time... i wish i was in that car during the jump i want feel it...
500hp out of a 1.6 is gnarly.
The new amg one gets over 1000hp out of a 1.6 11000rpm too
I think that's with electric motors
@@ZXTech you're right 628bhp from the petrol engine and around 372bhp from the electric motors
EJ20 with proper modifications could reach 600hp or 300hp/L, IE similar to 500hp out of a 1.6L. That was gnarly. Supercar engine properly engineered? Not so much.
@@RandomPlaceHolderName really you compare an F1 car engine to an unreliable and incredibly old engine? Really? Come on. At leat mention something reliable.
Such a shame they didn’t go into production
this expencive shit "phantom replica" make for 5 times cheaper
It's such a shame this never came to be a full production model. It's my favourite hypercar & I'd love Jag to bring back their plans for it.... fingers crossed!
it wasn't too good for anyone, it was just too expensive for Jaguar at the time
I think they were scared of putting a price tag close to the millions, now it's normal for "hyper cars"
Well that and they don't build cars like the C-X75 anymore. Jaguar builds stately sedans, decent GT and sports cars, and above average SUVs but not hypercars.
@@redmr2na The start of the C-X75 development was under ford I reckon, since 2010 it's owned by Tata, different policies I guess
Yeah, no one would bat an eyelid if you asked £1.5m for that today.
@@Outland9000 even 2million pounds would still be acceptable its a 4 cylinder with 900 HP god Damm son. I'm sure the body it like a whole carbon tub like some hyper cars.
Even though it was never fully made, this car is still helping to redefine the modern hypercar to this day
Yes, I had forgotten about it and it looks so modern. So ahead if it's time. I don't usually like how current jaguars look, but that one is a beauty.
So ahead of it's time?!?
Ok, then let me show you what really means "ahead of time"
Let get back to 91... and let me introduce all of you a real beauty you probably never heard of ->> th-cam.com/video/F1bSjJbL6n0/w-d-xo.html
@@BARON.SAMEDI. Eww, do you seriously call that disproportionate front "real beauty"
@@heamees4822 DEFINITELY !!! ... and it was back, probably before you was born...back at "1991"
I am also a Designer ( Graphic) and understand bit the way the stuffs work in the world of art!!
I personally prefer Pininfarina...Italdesign...
@@BARON.SAMEDI. what the actual fuck is that shit
@@JYMAHJAMES that "shit" was created by the world's worst German car builders...
As we all know, the Germans produce the worst cars...am I right?!?
that was so pretty, such a shame
Jaguar did an oopsie
oopsie woopsie my doodie woodies
Usual story of British automotive industry...
Britain doesn't own jaguar anymore its Indian technology.
@@kagelevel9670 when did it happened?
They've owned Jaguar and Land Rover from 2007 where have you been. And the company has seen it's best years ever since.
@@kagelevel9670 foolish to think it is indian technology...come on..owning doesn't mean that..and it works independently and has different CEO but owned by indian company
@@kagelevel9670 They're still British cars. And are they not produced in Birmingham?
It still looks more modern than the cars of today. I always loved the car and was sad to never really see it made even though I can't afford it.
When it comes to failing, no one did it better than Jaguar.
I was gonna make a similar comment lmao..."Jaguar in it's history have never made a decision they couldn't fuck up"
Don't built it and they won't come.
So we didn't.
Nah I think Maserati still fails at it, what have they done since the MC12?
@@biunzRS That's not just a failure of Maserati tho. Also Ferrari and he rest of Fiat Chrysler are to blame for Maserati.
Jaguar seem to be cutting them selves to pieces by themselves.
ғɪʟʟ 1ɴ ᴛ҉ ʜ3 ʙʟᴀɴᴋs I think Toyota and Lexus are the real failures they have all the tools to make great sports and super cars but fall short every time since the lfa and before that the mk.IV Supra
This car is by far the greatest super / Hyper car ever made. They REALLY need to put this in to production....and soon.
I bet they kick themselves when they see people forking out in excess of a million pounds for la farrari and mclaren p1. They were ahead of this trend and then backed out and lost all that money
That was one of the most gorgeous cars i'd seen in a long time. Too bad that it never got into production. :(
I remember seeing the gas turbine prototype on TopGear, looked good just sitting there. What a great shame it never made production, a 900bhp hybrid supercar could have put Jaguar firmly on the map again. The XJ220 from the 90's is still regarded as an epic achievement, a car that today can still leave modern supercars in its wake. What a pity...
The XJ220 was an epic achievement from an engineering standpoint but also massive flop from a financial standpoint.
@@PKmode I think this would followed that should it be made today but at the time there's a chance it could have been a risk with great dividends.
@@PKmode And then came the McLaren F1
The XJ220 wasn't even approved by Jaguar's board of directors. It was made by Jaguar employees on their spare time with their own money. Then when the Detroit car show came around Jaguar had nothing to show for it and found out what their employees were doing. So they showcased that instead with a V12 engine. Demands was high yet since Jaguar never planned anything for it they never had any production lined up for it. Eventually they couldn't deliver on the v12 and opted for a v6 twin turbo from the gawd awful group B rally car. Many buyers didn't want a boring v6 and wanted their money back. Jaguar lost tons of cash and it would be years before they got back on the radar once again. Moral of the story is : Never trust a Brit cause they will double cross you just as shown on their flag. 😂
even if Jaguar makes it now.. it will still be "Too Good On The Road"
Nearly 10 years old and looking like a new concept for 2020
Revs to 10,000rpm!?!?!!?
Amazing
You do know that Honda B and K engines have been doing 11.000 RPMs for the longest time ever right? And the B16B is also a 1.6....
Zynth ya but this isn’t a vtec bro
@@Zyntherion2202 Werent tbose engines for motorcycles? If yes, your point is rubbish.
@@cfl8874 Ofc not! The B16B is a 1.6L 4-banger with V-TEC specifically made and tuned for the first Type-R civic, the EK9. While the K20A is the engine of the FD2 ( correct me if I'm wrong ) civic type-R. Spoon have been tuning these engines to naturally rev to 11.000 and 12.000 RPM, making the powerband wider.
@@Agentricochet13 V-TEC had nothing to do with the rev limit... V-TEC changes the camshaft profile, allowing the engine to have a higher compression rate which increases the power that the engine produce at a certain RPM.
As a fan of the xj220 breaks my heart knowing this never made it
Two words
Economy crisis
Had this car unveiled and marketed after the global recession of late 00's this car would winning many awards from car magazines for being one of the most innovative cars ever built
But... That's two words.
@@Dakzilla13 gee, thanks for reminding about that, I've been too busy playing NFS Undercover lately
@@adlibbed2138 but can this model have the design and tech like this in the late 2000s?
Wasn't that the XJ220?
Jaguar totally should have put this into production, it’s such a dope car!
They should've made a kickstarter campaign or something...
NGC1433 lol that’s one of the stupidest things I’ve heard it’s not that they don’t have the money it’s that they don’t want to spend it
NGC1433 So poor people would donate then once it is done they’d sell it rich people?
No one would get the finished product and the media would go wild on them for seeming poor. Not to mention their stock would take a dive.
How tf do you think that would have been a good idea? You put money into a car just so someone else can buy it?
Guys, he is joking if you can't tell
And still look's Amazing Today...!
To me this must be one of the most gorgeous looking hypercar concepts that were ever made. I literally cant believe why they would not put it into production. The people from Jaguar were actually mad to miss such an opportunity to put Jag back in the hypercar territory. I just cant understand why to be honest. I hope I can atleast get my hands on a 1/43 réplica of it soon.
Jaguar should put this 4 Cylinder Hybrid system into a small rally car!!!
They should produce it and sell it as the XJ220 successor for real! I just want to see what it can do
Don't really get the "it was too good for us"
It was too good for us. Because we're a bunch of entitled wankers who think we deserve good things.
More like a way to blame us when things happened just because we have a different opinion
@@TheAfrilazeeq It's always your fault. I know you're conditioned to think it's always someone else's problem, but it's always your fault.
@@Malc180s it's my fault because I don't care to like it? Ok buddy
tbf economy crisis is to blame here, BMW M1 was a flop sales wise and so is this car, though it was a even harsher fate hits hard to this car
WHY :(( !!! Jaguar should produce at least 100 units, they will all sell like hot cakes !!! Those jumps were absolutly ridiculous ...
I'm still watching this in 2020 and I'm still wanting Jag to bring it back it's just a beautiful beast.
This is an extremely emotional story! Thanks @drivetribe !!
Unfortunately this is pretty much nonsense.
We are talking about power stats given by the company (of prototypes), there are some important figures missing (e.g. weight/battery charge etc.). and if I would get $10 dollar for every promising prototype, I would be pretty rich...
Personally I thought that the gas turbines were the coolest thing of the car and I liked the styling (which as the Porsche 918 looks really timeless).
They could have changed the underpinnings or gone all electric. This car is like that nice woman that got away.
It wasn't to good for us. Like most of jaguars great concepts they choose to never build them unfortunately
It _was_ too good for us.
Malc180s the F-type and I-Pace are almost identical to their concept versions
@@vika0194 Yes but both of them are plain jane Everyday Jags. Cars they designed and could put in to production for a 5er.
redmr2na the F-type is definetely not plain. Have you even seen or driven one in real life? It’s a very nice car.
It was just abit too ahead of it's time sadly.
Now I know why I feel like I have seen something similar to the XA 21 in GTA.
When this car was announced, me and my brother made a cutout of this car from a magazine and glued it on our bathroom door. Just two days ago, I took a good look at the cutout and today I find it on my TH-cam feed!
Imagine if Jaguar decided to produce this car ahhhhhhhhh
from the time i first saw it in top gear as a concept car and still to date its the only car i like from the jaguar. i was so excited to see that car first as its design was so cool at that time. i wish jaguar can still produce it now and still make it with better with electronics and better electric engines.
that was a brilliant video. Thank you.
Jaguar is the one company that I never understood. They make some of the most beautiful cars ever but they are so underrated
i was about to order 10 !
Jaguar should build it now, with teh Formula E tech...maybe we should ask Jaguar to do so...
Yep, even if it ended up being pure electric, I just love the shape and it deserves to be made!
@@KXP70 agreed.
900bhp with the contents of the Louvre in the boot, we love you Jaguar.
Even if they release this car 5 years from now, it will still look absolutely beautiful.
Yes bro I now almost 5 years have passed since your comment and it still a timeless piece 😢
The back of it is so hot!
Hope Ratan Tata gives green signal to this project
Even if they bring this car to production now it will be successful
This car was ahead of it's time
I watch this video for fourth or fifth time and I still can't imagine that jaguar didn't make this car. I had forgotten about the cx75 until I recently saw it in a top list.
Sooo....just build it now...(Kanye shrug)
3.4 seems slow for those specs
must weigh alot.
No weight doesnt effect 0-60 as biazare as that sounds! Its about traction which weight helps! Eg veyron! These figures are BS! 3.4 to 60 but around 2.5 from 60-100 is not normal for a awd car! Usually it would be about equal! Those figures are not right
Engine is twincharged, maybe you'd need a second more to spool the turbos up. Plus a supercharger takes its power from the engine at the beginning. These may affect the 0-60 time. And it has only been a prototype. Maybe jaguar could have tinkered about more
Payton Chalstrom 0-60 is 2,9 s idk where they got This bullshit from
Sam Colenbrander is that what it says online?
Almost 1.5 decade old design still look new and fresh .
this car was almost near production ready,company i worked for,we made the extreme handling roll cages for the prototypes,so this thing was literally ready to go.and then they cancelled the whole project,was an amazing car,pity it never saw the public roads.
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Darude - Sandstorm
@@niceopinion374 I knew it! smh lol
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oh no...please no
Probably the best sounding new gen car ❤ sounds like a real jaguar
I still remember 9 year old me looking at the CX75 on my dad's iPad on the Jaguar Magazine app in 2010, I wanted one then, I still dream of it now.
Let's be real for a second; this would have cost nearly twice as much as a 918. Sure, still half the cost of a P1 or LaFerrari but c'mon. On top of that, it seems Jag learned nothing from the mistake of putting a lower displacement, lower cylinder count engine into their "hypercar". The sales were dismal in the XJ220 because of the V6TT in lieu of the V12. While I understand from an engineering PoV, the buyers (you know, the guys who make or break the success by paying for the endeavor) want something more exoctic. Jag built a car for themselves yet again and not for their customers. Result: Massive waste of funds for a company facing some financial hardships. Maybe some cool trickle down tech but that's about it.
I think you have your prices wrong! LolThe 918 sold for £670,000.... this would of been £750,000 and the P1 just over 1m
The sales of the jag were shite due to the economy at the time, nothing to do with the engine! Youve been listening to some clueless prick.... similar to why the mac F1 sold poorly aswell!....
When the cars were new, these were the prices:
918 Spyder = £646,000
P1 = £866,000
LaFerrari = £1,000,000
And now they have appreciated, especially the Ferrari.
Which is why new units were still available for sale 5 years after production (and recession) ended? I vividly remember the "outrage" in the auto media over the engine switch. Its not made up. That is not to say the xj220 engine is bad, but what was "promised" was a V12 and how they treated those that tried to cancel orders was a big mistake that is still talked about in that community... The F40 was its contemporary, sold ok and outperformed the production XJ220... at a comparable price point. Super/hyper-car buyers are a finicky group and still prefer the cylinder count to be higher than lower. Mclaren had NO providence and NO existing customer base and charged a wicked premium on the F1, its first production car... with a BMW engine... the second production car came 12 years later.... it took that long for people stop saying "a Mc-what?"
There is a reason why the XJ220 tends to sale for less than original retail still.... and if you factor in inflation.... they are still underwater.
I don't think you can consider F40 and XJ220 as contemporary: they belong to two different eras. Your reasoning is correct anyway.
Claiming it was "too good for us" is just stupid. Claiming it was the "most sustainable" is yet another bit of mindless poo.
Rimac Concept_One was a thing as well during that period and while they never made it to large production, they did sell a couple of them.
One of the most* Whilst it wasn't “too good for us” it was most definitely too good for it's time.
Well, 36mpg is pretty damn sustainable for a 900hp supercar in all fairness.
@@Erowens98, the word sustainable is typically associated with wind or solar power.
@@Sean_Farmer No. It isn't. Sustainable refers to an energy source which can be sustained, thus not being based upon a limited resource or causing major environmental damage. Nuclear, Wind, Geothermal, Solar and Hydroelectric are the most common. Though the later twos sustainability is arguable. This car is petrol powered so can not be considered sustainable. But it does use less petrol than most of it's competition, which makes it the "most sustainable" in it's class.
I remember this and thought it was superb. Looks fresh and amazing now.
This is my favorite car design of all time. Absolutely gorgeous!
This car took a lot of styling ideas from the XJR15 I think, another car most have probably forgotten about. And JLRs financial woes have only continued to get worst and worst.. and it has bigger all to do with ‘brexit’! More a case of poor management.
Jaguar, and land rover were struggling before brexit. Brexit currently has nothing to do with there bad sales numbers.
@@chewy4160 like c'mon this car was born long before the Brexit was even a thing
@@adlibbed2138 what are you on about? I was saying that Jaguar, and land rover were already doing bad before brexit. I don't quite understand your comment. I know the car was made before brexit lol. I don't know if you're taking my side, or trying to tell me something I already knew.
@@chewy4160 it's going to get alot worse because of brexit. I am guessing that's the point that's being made here.
Song name? Please!
Nightride by Chello
@@kaaron9172Can't find it, do u have the link please?
This car is a Jewel
It is IMO a crime it wasn't put into production
Massive missed opportunity to really create a halo for one of my fav brands. What beauty. What a sound. Tremendous!!
Jaguar was just too bad at selling road cars, that’s why this never happened
Something doesn’t jibe mate. 900 bhp and only 0-60 in 3.4!? The average Porsche 911 with Sports Chrono pack does this OR better! Lol. Also usually combined actual bhp output is usually much less than the actual sum of gas motor plus electric motors output. Cheers. Cool car however!
This car made its debut in 2010. But yes. Nissan GT-R back then already hit 2.9
If I'm not mistaken, the Jag weighed more than the Porsche you're talking about
mithritades so also The Tesla Model S even heavier and yet much faster to 60 in ludicrous mode.
@@noseonscent1935 I see where you're going lol
Its still in prototype stage. So it will weigh a lot with those wires and instruments on board. It is still in the process of fine tuning, sadly it never went further to production ready.
This car was ahead of it's time
Quite possibly one of the most visionary car of 21st century. The design is spectacular
useless video! explain why jag pulled out!
ChawenHalo 008 2:54
@@biggo_8170 Thank you but I had watched the entire video. Thats no explanation. Tata was and is loaded. Other reasons speculated at the time was a lack of brand equity, past failure of XJ220 etc. Some more careful and insightful journalism would have been appreciated and interesting.
@@chawenhalo0089 Pretty sure this was under Ford not Tata. 🤔
Also amongst other things it was because of the global economy and Jaguar's poor judgement. Well not just Jag but the industry as we knew it at the time.
@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks Nope; Tata completed Jaguar acquisition in 2008. CX75 was shown as a concept car in 2010.
Cx-75 wasn't to good for us, Jaguars management are just idiots who cant learn from their past.
This thing is a blast on Driveclub, I could only imagine what it would be like in real life.
I havent forgot this car... And i never will... This car is the most gorgeous hypercar ive seen... It looks gorgeous from every angle... It still doesnt look like a 2010ish car... if this car launched right now no one will say its a old design
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Second greatest tragedy after Hillary surviving 2016 :'(
She didn't tho so unless you supported her it wasn't a tragedy. 😂
Classy comments from right-wingers, as always!
what a video.also love the car keep it up
looks incredible!
I DO remember this concept debuting with the twin "micro-turbine" hybrid powertrain.
I DIDN'T know about the multiple examples built with the Williams designed 500+hp twin-charged 4 cylinder instead of the aforementioned micro-turbine idea...
This is such a beautiful master piece. Its ashame that Jaguar cant do the project due to financial crisis
Seen it in flesh. Staggering!
Love it when a Supercar like that has a 1.6L engine
Dude, I thought this was a 2018 car. I've been fucking living under a rock.
I'm confused. Why don't they reboot the project & come out with something even better & make it even more exclusive. I definitely would love to see other F1 powered cars on the road.
It was sooo beautiful was lucky enough to see it in a show room in London years ago as did I see a xj220
Would love to see Jaguar revive this kind of program
I fawned over this when I heard about it for the first time. It still is just as striking and beautiful.
Why have I never heard of this car? Is looks so much like the xj220. Is sooooo pretty nostalgic and Morden looking.
We need to have a petition to have an updated design and release🙏
There is something special about this car. It's a result of passion and dreams rather than a statement of wealth and ego like the Merc AMG one and the Porsche. I remember how different the XJ20 was. I wish they make this car.
Looks superb.
Jaguar would have made a killing with this car and really brought it back on top. I love how this car looks and the specs were insane.
Beautiful!!!!
This was probably my favourite "hypercar" for a while, hoping, one day it would see the light of day. Alas, the day never came..
Jaguar are great at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory
The fact that this is a design from 2010 is insane. Remember, this was the same time that Lamborghini was making the Murcielago, which is arguably one of the most boxy and impractical supercar designs I’ve seen.
Still looks amazing even today
That is the best sounding 4 cylinder I've ever heard!