Is a Manual Transmission Swap WORTH IT? Audi S4 Swap
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 พ.ค. 2024
- The B8s4 is known for DSG issues. The automatic has problems and is EXPENSIVE! In This video we will manual swap S4! Manual Swap on an S4 is not easy. How much will a manual swap cost? How much work is a manual swap? What parts do you need for a manual swap? Can you DIY a manual swap? We will manual swap the B8 S4 and cover all those manual swap questions.
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Intro: 0:00
Getting Manual Swap Parts 0:23
CAUTIONS For Manual Swap ~ 0:49
Under Hood S4 Manual Swap 1:20
Under Car S4 Manual Swap1:56
Remove S4 Exhaust 2:10
Remove S4 Transmission Bolts 2:56
Remove S4 Front Axles 3:30
Remove S4 Prop Shaft 4:13
Remove S4 DSG transmission 7:04
Remove DSG Shifter 10:43
Install Manual S4 Shifter 12:20
Remove Install Clutch pedal ~ 13:02
Remove S4 ECM 15:09
Auto Vs Manual Pedal ~ 19:07
Wiring S4 Manual Swap 21:51
Swap S4 Flex Plate 33:53
Swap S4 Starter 34:33
Installing S4 Manual 37:20
Bleeding S4 Clutch 39:48
Coding S4 manual swap 40:56
Checking S4 fluid level 42:13
Assembly after manual swap 42:40
First S4 manual swap test 44:17
First S4 manual swap DRIVE 45:00
How much will a manual swap cost 46:13
What S4 manual swap parts needed? 46:31
Audi S4 Manual Swap REGRETS 47:25
S4 Manual Swap Regrets 48:41
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If you get some value out of this video, either education, or entertainment, please give it a share. The better this does, the more likely I can do more things just like this again LOL
You've done well! Now go enjoy your Christmas with the fam! See you next year for the TT build! 😀
@@danieloshaughnessy8476 HAHA Thank you! The TT build is high priority
Great job Charles, really enjoy your vids. BTW, I'm surprised at how minimal the oil leaks are on that engine with over 200K. My wifes Q5 3.2L with 175K leaks from every sealing joint. Lol..
can take all the gearbox/Transmission all at once as box stays on centre shaft i know how heavy the box is as i changed mine on jackstands on my lonesome , never again
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I likely, hell-won't ever, be doing a trans swap on an Audi but I watched every minute of this video and enjoyed it. Charles, you have one of the best channels on TH-cam. Your humor and explanation of how things should, or should not, be done are perfect. Looking forward to you next video.
Thank you so much! That means the world. Im feeling kinda meh as this video sin't doing as well as id hoped. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!
Yes, confirmed you are the man and I am just man enough to say I would never do it.
@@HumbleMechanic Love the video but it is too long for average viewer. I would split into 2 parts. Taking stuff apart and putting back together.
@@HumbleMechanic the title could probably be written better, it’s a long video just to find out if swapping to manual is worth it. “S4 dsg to manual swap in less than 5 hours for $600?!” Something like that creates intrigue and makes the length of the video worth investing time in to. Two parts might help to, or even 3.. I’m fine with long videos but it does put some people off. Great video nonetheless, I thoroughly enjoyed it x
The older Audis are much easier. Such as the B5 A4 or S4. 94-02
For a person who doesn't like automatic transmission cars this is satisfying. I'll probably never buy a car with an automatic transmission or electric e brake!
The last time I did a trans swap was auto to manual on a Volvo. It was nowhere near as complex as this, but still a fair bit of work. Great video. Thoroughly enjoyed it.
I'm looking for an old 240 to do this very thing. I'm glad it wasn't this involved, gives me hope.
'90 Mustang for me, pretty simple swap, except for having to remove the transmission again because I forgot to install the pilot bearing.
So satisfying to watch your work, it looks incredibly easy until I see that you have to basically re-fabricate 1/3 of the engine bay 😂
haha A few wires and we good to roll!
With enough time, money, and tenacity, very few things are impossible.
So much awesomeness (showing so much intelligence, hard work, knowledge, and experience) packed into this, thank you so much for this amazing content for the B8/8.5 platform. Huge respect for you to not only make this happen but to also explain all the details showing all the steps. I suppose this is not just about S4 but can probably help the owners of all those DL501 DSG (S4/S5/RS5/S6/S7 from 2009-2017) Audi owners who might ever want to swap their transmission instead of maintaining their DSG going forward. Just wish your shop could swap my S5 Sportsback (not in US) which never come with MT, but RS5/S6/S7 MT builds should be super sick for enthusiasts. This video totally deserves as much view as possible and more people supporting mechanics (hopefully with donation or sponsorship) with these kind of attempts and content. Now that you covered all those manual swap questions, here's some ideas that might interest the same crowd: 1) racing parts sourcing and reviews (eg. clutch pack, headlights, brakes); 2) collaboration with shops in other countries so more people can do the same.
Hope you can do more things like this again, giving my first ever Super Thanks!
THNKA YOU SO MUCH!!!
@@HumbleMechanic really are humble idk if id be so excited over 8 bucks xD
About a year ago - I wrote some comments in this channel on how here in Latvia, I''ve used my un-original VCDS from Aliexpress - to do everything on my 2008 Allroad 3.0 TDI - and how everything has been working flawlessly, meaning, the EPB, the lighting/rain sensor/DPF/EGR coding, etc, etc, etc. The comment was deleted. I then typed how puzzled I was about the comments being deleted - and even that was deleted. Since then - I don't think that the HumbleMechanic is necessarily HUMBLE - or a good mechanic (there's this thing called right to repair - I've heard about it in Latvia - most good mechanics have probably heard about in the US as well). SInce the time my comments were deleted on this channel - about an un-original VCDS that I use - I cannot watch the channel - because the guy seems to be supporting the wrong side of the DIY "industry". Good luck on to your way of becoming actually HUMBLE.
The people who created VCDS need to eat, if u running fong kong u r not supporting the development of the tool.
I'm on 6 by the end. 6 times I said to myself "hell no!", like working under the dash. I do appreciate seeing it, although not that difficult the "why?" question takes it all out. Also few things that went through my spine, like the junk blocking the drain, I have enough VAG experience to know that you have to check it twice a year to avoid floating control modules or weird smells. All in all, great job! Unnecessary, but great!
great advice, check the VAG at least 2x yearly to avoid weird smell!
@@drowebd twice a year.......?
What I appreciate the most about you Charles (among many talents and skills),
is how positive you are throughout your videos while working on Audi/VW products...
I giggled when you were removing skid plates, practically the first step, and you mention the 700 different fastener types... You AINT LYIN...
I swapped my ‘05 GTI and I’d say it’s the best money I’ve ever spent in terms of fun factor. Fired up and drove first try - was the biggest relief of my life.
Awesome video! This is definitely a more involved job than my car was!
Is it easier to go from manual to dsg or dsg to manual
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@@socialising6037 what do you think?
@@dokterkarel I'm a builder that's what I think
@@socialising6037 Apologies. From auto to manual is easier than from manual to auto. The former needs to remove more (for example oil cooler lines, ECT, ...) while the latter needs to install and code these things
Wish I can swap my VW GTI with Manual as yours. Nothing wrong with it..but still the amount of connecting you get with your car is simply next level.
I think the GTI would be about the same work. There was a lot of things I could have skipped like EPB module and reverse lights.
Again, Charles - superb video!! Great photography, excellent audio, and the biggest win: By far, yours continue to be the best-edited car how-to videos to slow down and show details (with great lighting and focus) where needed, while also skipping / FFW-ing past the simple/repetitive stuff. 👍
Having done a few Mk4 TDI auto-to-manual swaps, I've always been curious if the process was do-able in newer cars...and this showed that indeed, it is roughly the same, just a little "more" of everything.
Man.. this brings back nostalgia when i did the same swap on my A4 b6 four years ago. It was relatively easy, took two days, and had the biggest smile afterwards having 6 speed AWD. Regardless if the car already existed with one. Everything is buttoned up nicely, no codes or warnings. TONS of fun in the snow and dirt.
A master craftsman has the ability to make a job appear to be easier than it is and to efficiently remove any obstacles that may arise. IMHO, you easily meet this criteria.
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Commenting for the algorithm. That looked... mind bogglingly complicated. I think you're really underselling it describing it as "not too bad." Humble indeed! 😁
LOL It was easier than I was expecting
Most jobs are doable when you got the right tools, the right equipment, the right knowledge/experience and most importantly the right amount of beard 😂
hahahahah FACTS!!
Loved my B8 S4 manual. You're not going to regret all of the hard work necessary for this swap!
This type of knowledge but also being very fun n like eye catching. Is a perfect example of how to get people to sign up.
I enjoy watching your videos as they are by the book. Your attention to detail is unmatched. This video was a lot of do as I say and not as I do. Its different from all the other videos you do. Either way Keep it up! I look forward to seeing more of your content
I really appreciate the simplicity and design decisions of Subarus after watching your videos.
Thank for you doing the Lord’s work and putting an elite transmission back into this absolute beast of a car!
Absolutely love this channel. I sold my Audi a few months ago to get back into a BMW but still watch every one of your videos.
Phenomenal install Charles. That was both an entertaining watch and super informative about the underpinnings of the B8.
Much appreciated!
I just watched this for a second time, looking for something to pass time while on the exercise bike. 50 minutes just flew by. Without doubt, THE channel to visit when looking for mechanical shenanigans, presented in a no nonsense light hearted but ultimately very satisfying way. Thanks again Charles, and don’t stop doing what you do! Greetings from Scotland!
This is amazing, I used to drive a manual b8 s4 -- amazing car, so I whole heartedly approve! Hope this video does well for you Charles
Always love the videos! Could watch for hours. It’s nice to see how things work and not having to have it all broken on the driveway with no idea of what to do feelings as it’s all on your videos!
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I absolutely love your videos! The pacing, the knowledge, the awesome camera shots and narration is just top of the line! Keep it going!
thank you!!!!
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YES!! I did a manual swap on my allroad. Surprisingly easy and very well documented.
Your channel is awesome, what a feeling it must be to make this conversation. Keep making videos 👍🏽
Holy damn!!! I remember watching you when you had maybe 2k subs years ago. This video popped up and so awesome to see u doin this good bro!!!
Just bought an B8 with hopefully just a bad Trans harness going to replace it this weekend so we will see if I need to follow this swap lol. Always a pleasure watching your videos!
That exhaust sounds really good.
This was awesome. I had an E38, and everything to do the swap to an E39 transmission but found it impossible in a 6’6” garage. Nice work
this is a super interesting swap! thanks for doing this Charles! Would love to see other 6spd swaps!
Amazing job 👌🏻 You are real expert in all categories, so mechanics, wiring and coding 👌🏻 and here is what is possible with this knowlage/skills. Amazing 👌🏻
thank you!
Loved this video and the personality you put into your videos/work. Nothing I'd ever attempt in a million years, but fun to watch an expert pull it off. One more regret you could add to the list at the end--not making Paul suffer throu--err, do some of this work with you. 🤣
LOL
Very happy I bought my B8.5 S4 with a 6speed swap already done at the factory 😅 That's some involving work Charles! Great video and I laughed a bunch too 🍻
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I loved my manual S4. Mine was a 2010. I put about 60,000 miles on it before getting rid of it. Really loved how the car felt.
I've just bought an A5 with 3.2 V6 6 speed! I like it but geez Luiz, timing chains are at back of motor, awd, this thing is most complicated car I worked on! Seeing your channel is very encouraging, maybe I'll keep her. I coming from an e46. So this channel is like a breath of fresh air.
Wow what a well timed video. I’m currently manual swapping my 2008 A6 wagon. And dropping an s4 v8 in it
Badass video. Wiring is the tricky part. Doable job on a lift and suicidal on jack stands.
Really liked the seam ripper. I always learn a new trick here.
This video took me like five days to look at but I made it, like the brutal honesty at the end.
Doing a manual conversion on cars are similar overall with a couple differences as expected. Is it worth the time and money???......if you are having fun and enjoying the car more, of course it's worth it 👍👍
EXACTLY!!!
Love how well you guys explain everything, great video
Nice job Charles and good tip with the ear plugs they also work good for filling holes on an engine block before you paint.
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Holy cow this was awesome. Thank you for putting this video together!
As a sewist I was hollering when I saw him using what I call the sewing thread buster on the "hose housing" thingy, as I do not remember the name 🤔 at the moment.
This man lets me remember many years ago when I use to help my uncle work on the cars in his shop. After over 20+ years I can still remember certain stuff. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thank you Mr
Charles. I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THIS. And I also learn from your repairs as I own a 2010 Polo tdi and can see and understand the similarities. 😉
I knoooow that most would not get it, but I am sure you do. 😌
I learned the cardboard trick 20 years ago and it’s super awesome for lots of jobs
That is some of the most insane wiring I have ever seen in a car. That part made my head hurt. Everything is just packed into its space in them as well.
Great video! I’ve done many engine swaps on 80s and 90s VWs and Audis. Having said that…NOPE!!!
Love the XPO tracking label on the removed transmission!
Great Job , I really miss my b8.5 s4, They are really nice cars. I see what you snuck in the car and those are a definite requirement.
This is a massive job.keep up the good work 👌
Im litterally in the middle of this with a 12v vr6 auto to 6speed and everything besides the wiring I was able to do. Finding correct wiring diagrams is tuff and trying to understand it w 0 knowledge is even worse but this just made me want to finish it off and get that first start going
I learned a ton! Also enjoyed watching someone work who really enjoys the challenge. Planning to do something similar someday to a different older car. Just probably not to my S4. :)
Excellent video Charles
Well done Charles! Great video too as you make it look easy (I'm sure I won't tackle this anytime soon).
doing a manual swap on one of the cars i own and being able to daily drive it is on my bucket list. i don't own an audi and not planning on buying one soon but your video on this swap had me glued to the screen the whole time, i can't believe 50 minutes went by that fast!
If a manual swap is on ur bucket list,get an e36 bmw. They were made as a manual from the factory unless someone got the automatic transmission option. So everything is in place or made for the manual. Like the master cylinder reservoir has a nipple where the clutch is supposed to go,so just cutting the end off and putting the hose on is necessary.
I have a MY12 Lancer Ralliart with the SST (DSG) and contemplating a manual swap. I build prototype EVs for a day job so i have the skills. This does inspire me.
Was waiting for this video....Great job !
As I watched this video I laugh because this is nearly the exact process when I manual swapped my B5.5 W8 Passat. Watching you do it in one video shows in depth how much had to be swapped over. Crazy to think how similar the cars are and how well VW/Audi set up their cars for the future.
I have a regular 1.9 TDI C5 but with a 500k CVT :D Been considering this the day I got it. Manuals with better interior spec etc are rare. I guess easier to swap the interior to some...
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Cool video dude, love your work
That was the best 49 minutes of television I've seen in a long time.
A while back I entertained the idea of manual swapping my 2011 A3 TDI. This video confirms I made the right choice in not swapping it. I'm a DIY'er and can't imagine doing this.
Absolutely loving the content you and mr. DAP create! Thanks for sharing your manual swap with us. I have entertained the idea of manual swapping my Q5 3.0T using s4 components. I dont think the Q5 chasis ever came with an option for a manual... do you believe s4 manual hardware you used would work and what would possibly be some issues I would need to face that could be different?
Great work Charles and Merry Christmas to you and family from the other side of the pond 😊
Marvelous work. Only thing I don't get is putting 5A rated slow fuse in front of 1ft 24awg wire. It's useful as much as an ashtray on a bike. This wire start to heat up after 3.5A and will cause insulator to decay before fuse kicks in.
That’s a huge trans axle, looks heavy! Great video!
I've always wondered about doing this and its exactly as intimidating as I expected.
As I watched the pedal assembly swap, it dawned on me that I better start counting the cubic labor dollars involved in this swap. Your commentary and expertise are softening me up for the bill. Holy Cow amazing.
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Enjoying this VAG swap looking forward for street build like this
This is the video I needed since I was planing on doing this on my B8 A4
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Awesome to see it up and running so smoothly! Glad I could help with my coding. I'm glad you share my same view on wiring, lol. Somehow it's therapeutic! Maybe because it makes us feel smart lmao
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manual swapping a modern car, good stuff man!
Took me a while to figure out the brake booster bolts held the pedal assembly in place when I did the manual conversion on my B5 S4.
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I wish I had someone like this in my life.. It's so good to be friends with Mechanic's like this.. I am friendly with some people who cut me brakes, But I would love to have a Real friend with a lift... I am too old for jack stands in the drive way anymore.. So Now I just handle basic's like brakes and oil changes myself.. God I wish I had a garage and a lift in it..
I love this! I've done a manual swap on a Honda accord using an Acura tl doner car cost me 900 and about 1000 in parts and other things to refresh the car. The physical swap was easier and didn't require coding but the wiring was about the same repinning and adding a few wires switching out pedals and things.
For the v6 accords especially the pre-2007 accords doing a manual swap is worth it as the automatic transmissions aren't known to be reliable. And you can spend more than that keeping the car automatic. It's been 3 years
Since then I've manual swapped another Acura tl and I think my next project will be manual swapping a vw jetta.
Another reason to manual swap is you can find a clean chassis that is automatic for much less than manual chassis. In some cars.
Echoing all the positive statements prior to this. Good on you Charles!
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Bloody hell, I can stress out just doing an oil and filter change on my motorbike. Watching you do this change over nearly caused me to have a triple bypass. I watched the whole video. I think you are amazing. You would be the man I would go to, however I am in Australia, so a geographical impossibility.
10 out of 10 mate, you are a genius.
From a fellow countryman, I can totally agree with you on this one being a pretty frightening job.
This is a brilliant video! Keep it up :D
Just got done having a 2014 DSG installed into my 2010. I pressed many places for a manual swap but I think it was just too much to be worth it. Costed 6k with parts and labor to swap in a b8.5 trans. Would’ve easily exceeded 10-12k to do this swap you just did with a shop. This is only worth it if you hate money or have the ability to do it yourself and have a lift. Doing it on stands is doable but it would be hell and would probably make you resent the car after the job is done. Great video as always. This is most in depth by far!
Not so true...I did the swap on my e36 bmw in my single car garage while she was in winter storage. It was nice to be able to just "walk away" when I would get aggravated.
Is this the start of another exceptional build 😎😎😎👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
LOL Im about done with this car I think. Who knows. HAHA Audi content is hit or miss. So I have to see how views are to determine if its worth keeping
I like how you entertain yourself while working. I kind of do the same but had reached an R rated version when doing a manual conversion on my 99 Audi A4 1.8t Quattro. (On jack stands by the way) 😆. GREAT camera angles when doing the pedals.
Hahah my off camera is very rated R 🤣
This makes me more confident about doing big jobs on my b5. I'm glad someone else is out there doing hard work with just jackstands
@@aShamelessHigh I did that in my 50s, 60 now still work on German cars but doubt if I'd do another conversion on jack stands at this age. I have a FWD 1.8t Passat now but if the auto trans fails you never know... Already did install a new turbo and CV axle, not its time for a new steering rack.
Awesome video, Charles. Lots of information here. Thanks for sharing.
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If you are familiar with SMG in early 2000's Bmws mine failed, spent money to fix it, failed again. Finally I swapped it to manual and had a blast driving from Seattle to Portland, definitely worth the coin to never have the issue again.
HumbleMechanic I wish I had as a neighbor in Germany. What a mad lad!
Love the video charles!
Nice video, Charles.... you convinced many of us (manual fanatics) that playing with certain german brands are not worth it. What a cluster funk!
Bmw's pre 2006 are EASY to swap and def NOT one of those German brands. Best decision I ever made was swapping a manual into my e36 when the auto crapped the bed
It’s good when you hear professionals using the same hack as you I filled a engine mount on my fiat with no more nails while waiting for the new one only for a week though
Man amazing video! Honestly man I think if you made a video doing a auto-manual swap on a mk4 or mk5 gti you’d get a ton of views because everyone has one! Great video tho man, that’s a huge job.
Awesome video. Glad you weren't pancaked by that DSG.
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If you know my Channel, you know I am ALL about the Manual Swaps! lol just... on Mercedes AMG's. Great work and Video as always!
Love the video, considering buying a mK5 R32, but want it manual, considerable work I see
I’m in the process of doing an engine and manual transmission build for my 08 EOS DSG. Was a great video. Would love to see more on the wiring and coding
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1000th like! Good work Charles, MT for sure, have to keep them around!
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Great video love such work intensiv project
I enjoyed every minute... thanks!
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Great video again 👍👍👍
You guys did the great job.
I did a manual to manual swap on a Jetta TDI 2006. Took me a Saturday late evening and the daylight Sunday. I did not change the clutch neither.
Was much easier because I had to less steps and no adaptation. The real pain was to install the driver side transaxle without removing suspension parts...
I am not mechanic, I am a nurse...
now I drive a CVT Subaru; how much the CVT will last? It is worth to swap a manual transmission in when the CVT dies?
Great video, as always!
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